Aruban Justice: 2 1/2 Year Jail Sentence for G.W. Anthony who Shot a Man at Havana, Other Goes Free on Lack of Evidence

Aruban justice: different crime, similar results??? 

21 year old G.W. Anthony who shot a man at Havana, received 2½ years in jail while suspect G.J. Raven went free, due to lack of evidence. Interestingly enough, Anthony was convicted due to the fact that he had provided the police several different stories during declarations. Sound familiar? So much for a uniform system of justice applied by the judges in Aruba. If multiple stories in decalarations are the standard for guilt and innocence in Aruba … Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe would be presently serving time for the disappearance of missing Natalee Holloway. Why was this case different?

The only evidence came from the mouth of Anthony self, but the judge dismissed that, especially because Anthony has given the police several variant declarations.

The prosecutor assumed that Raven had given Anthony the gun and the two tried to disguise the truth by giving contradictory declarations. Raven’s lawyer requested that his client is acquitted because of this. That he had lied in the beginning is because he was afraid. The judge considered it proven that Anthony had shot the victim R.A. Reid

2½ Years for the person that pulled the trigger in Havana
(June, 28 2008 Amigoe)

ORANJESTAD – The 21-year old G.W. Anthony that shot a man at Havana, received 2½ years jail. Suspect G.J. Raven went free, due to lack of evidence.

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Aruba: Natalee Holloway: Deepak & Satish Kalpoe Suing Dr Phil for Defamation … Doesn’t One Have to First have Character?

Can people who knowingly and willfully lie, obstruct justice and bear false witness have the credibility to sue for defamation? Doesn’t one first need character in order to sue for it’s damage? The Kalpoe’s and Aruba have been dancing around the truth in the Natalee Holloway case for 3 years running. The question that needs to be addressed is did either Deepak or Satish Kalpoe have the ability to sue for libel seeing that their reputations were already tarnished prior to the Dr Phil tape. Namely, their reputations were tarnished by their own doing. By the way, why does one wash their car in the middle of the night? A car that Natalee Holloway was last seen in and never was heard from again?

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Satish, Deepak and Dr. Phil

The defamation lawsuit filed by the two Surinamese brothers, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, against Dr. Phil McGraw and CBS over a broadcast concerning the disappearance of Natalee Holloway continues to go forward. The first question that one would ask is, how can one claim defamation of charters if they are void of said character? Should the law suit go forward? Probably not; however, I say why not … discovery and interrogatories of the Kalpoe brothers might just be what the doctor ordered to help find answers and “Justice for Natalee”.

A lawsuit filed in December 2006 by Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe maintains they were defamed in a Sept. 15, 2005, “Dr. Phil” show, when it was alleged they gave Holloway a date-rape drug and had non- consensual group sex with her. They also contend the episode implied they helped kill Holloway and dispose of her body.

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What did they know and when and why did they lie?

The “Dr. Phil” segment included statements by Deepak Kalpoe that were “significantly manipulated and altered,” the suit alleges. In addition to defamation, the Kalpoes’ suit alleges invasion of privacy, emotional distress, fraud, deceit and civil conspiracy.

But in court papers filed Wednesday, attorneys for CBS, McGraw and Kay Skeeters — widow of Jeremy Skeeters, a private investigator hired by McGraw to interview Deepak Kalpoe — maintain the brothers are “libel-proof.”

They say the brothers’ reputations were irreparably stained by prior published accounts of the Holloway case, meaning they cannot claim to have been damaged by the “Dr. Phil” broadcast.

Satish Kalpoe’s June 24, 2005 important and must read statement

Read all of the suspect & witness statements HERE and HERE

What reputation does one have when they continually lie in witness statements and provide constant inconsistencies in their stories?

One needs to ask themselves, what reputation did the Kalpoe’s have prior to the Dr. Phil report other than that of suspects in the murder of Natalee Holloway and admitted liars? The Kalpoe’s were last seen leaving Carlos N’ Charlies with Natalee Holloway along with Joran Van der Sloot, Natalee was never seen again. It was also the Kalpoe’s that were complicit in the lie that they dropped off Natalee Holloway that night at the Holiday Inn and subsequently implicated two black security guards for her disappearance.

The position of the Dr. Phil defense attorneys is as follows:

The brothers also did not ask for a correction of the “Dr. Phil” broadcast in time and are limited public figures, meaning they have to prove malice by CBS and the other defendants, the defense attorneys argue.

The defense attorneys have a motion pending Aug. 5 to dismiss the case on grounds the plaintiffs’ lawyers disobeyed court orders to turn over information.

Aruba: Crime Increased 11.3% Last Year … Youth Crime a Major Concern

What ever happened to Aruba … “One safe island” where no crime ever took Crime 5place? It would appear that myth has now been put to rest. Aruba may want to revise the following articles regarding the crime rate to unsuspecting tourists. Of course there are other crimes that occur in Aruba that are not referred to in much of any manner. However, the increase in youth crimes make it completely believable that the 2005 disappearance of Natalee Holloway could have been entirely planned and perpetrated by youths.

Since crime in Aruba is relatively low, you can travel with peace of mind

On rare occasions, armed robbery and car theft have occurred. Vehicle leases or rental contracts may not be fully covered by local insurance when a vehicle is stolen or damaged, so make sure you are sufficiently covered when renting cars and jet skis.

The crime discussed by the ALE is referring to youth and gang violence, not petty pick pocketing. Rare? You be the judge. Since 2005 to 2007 there has been an average criminality increase per day of 2.10 crimes. Rare?

According to reports from the ALE, criminality has increased with 11.3 percent last year. Home robberies and youth crime have been targeted as the reason for the increase. Crime is on the increase in Aruba and there appears to be a disturbing trend with youth and crime. Have the youth in Aruba become out of control and feel a sense of invisibility?

Points of concern are the development of the youth criminality and “the growing ease with which firearms are being used”, said chief of police Peter de Witte looking back on last year.

The youth criminality has been raised to priority one this year. “Youth criminality, definitely after the serious incidents of last year, is heavily qualified for the subjective safety feeling.

Thus, the number of crimes has increased last year. The number of crimes committed in 2005 was 5511; in 2006, 5643; and in 2007, 6277

Looking back to 2005 and the Natalee Holloway missing persons case when Aruba became a household name to many for all the wrong reasons, we see that three suspects were named at the time. Was the Natalee Holloway case and her presumed death just one in the many of a trend of youth violence taking place in Aruba? Many people had thought at the time how could 3 young suspects, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe, pull such a crime off? With the ever increasing crime rate and Aruba and the ever increasing crime rate among youths, is it really that unbelievable now?

Criminality increased with 11 percent (Amigoe: June 13, 2008)

Looking back on 2007, chief of police Peter de Witte is of the opinion that the shooting incident near Arubus in December of last year, whereby a 19-year old boy shot a police officer and was self shot and killed, is an example of the hardening in the society and especially with the youth.

ORANJESTAD – From the tentative figures of the Police Corps of Aruba it appears that criminality has increased with 11.3 percent last year. This has to do with mainly the sharp rise of the number of robberies, especially in homes. The police are highly satisfied with the approach of the local drug dealings and the use of narcotics; more than 200 kilo cocaine was confiscated last year, double the amount of 2006.

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Aruban Police Officer Suspcted of False Reporting of Witness Declarations

Aruban police officer, Edgar Maduro, is suspected of false reporting. Maduro is now formally suspected of violating article 194 of the Criminal Code, in other words, false reporting. You mean after all this time there is an actual criminal code in Aruba for false reporting on a declaration? Maybe the OM would like to go back and re-evaluate all of the declarations by Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe, Satish Kalpoe, Paulus Van der Sloot et all and see if the same criminal codes were not violated in the case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Its the least the OM could do after 3 years have transpired since Natalee Holloway went missing.

The Public Prosecutor (OM) is now suspecting him of false reporting and decided to hear the police officer again.  After Maduro was confronted on Thursday with the existing suspicion, he told the OM before the interrogation that he appeals to his right to remain silent.  Maduro didn’t want to listen to the findings of the National-detective and left with his lawyer after having left behind a written statement saying that he does not see any reason for adding to the statements he had already given. 

Maduro is now formally suspected of violating article 194 of the Criminal Code, in other words, false reporting. 

Suspected police officer Maduro appeals to his right to remain silent (Amigoe: 6/1/2008)

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Three Year Anniversary of Disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba … Still Looking for Justice for Natalee

It is hard to believe that it has been 3 years since the disappearance of Natalee Holloway 2Natalee Hollway in Aruba. Three years since the last night on Aruba of the Mountain Brook, AL high school trip. Three years since that fateful moment when Natalee Holloway left Carlos N’ Charlies at closing in a car with Deepak Kalpoe, Satish Kalpoe and Joran Van der Sloot.

A missing person case that now three years later does not seem to be any close to being solved than in the initial days of the investigation. Why is that? Why were there no leads that would lead to an arrest of the obvious suspects in this case? Why were there court obstructions to re-arrests when the evidence was obvious and confessions were made?

Answers may not have been answered yet in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway; however, changes have happened in both Mountain Brook and Aruba where the two locations will forever be linked and will never be the same.

Charlotte Botsford is a Mountain Brook youth pastor. She said Natalee Holloway’s senior trip disappearance has forced parents to scale down the annual tradition.
 
From what I can tell it has changed significantly. A lot of students are going to the beach or the lake and they are taking a lot parents with them,” Botsford recalled. (NBC13)

One of the legacies of Natalee Holloway is awareness. No one can look upon any vacation paradise as safe no matter what tourism brochures claim. All too often we make are selves aware of our surroundings during our every day life; however, when on vacation those walls are taken down because we have been lead to believe that its OK, “no problem mon.” That is not the case anymore.

“You have to vigilant at all times especially as a woman it’s very important, be cautious in the world we’re in. No place is perfectly safe. Not even Mountain Brook,” Ford pointed out.

Dave Holloway tries to be optimistic and hopes that the recent sonar searches off Aruba may solve the mystery as to what happened to Natalee. A search that would have appeared to have ended prematurely with so many potential targets still needed to be investigated. One hopes that it will be resumed in the near future.

Dave Holloway said ocean floor sonar searches off the coast of Aruba found about 170 targets.
 
Due to bad weather and technological limitations, they were only able to examine a handful of those targets.
           
Holloway hopes to resume the searches as soon as possible.

However, there are still many answers that Aruba needs to answer to as to what happened to Natalee Holloway. No one just disappears. Especially on an island so small. Especially when little to no competent investigation or real interrogation was done to the very people who were last seen with Natalee. People, Deepak, Satish and Joran, who lied through their teeth from the outset as to what their involvement was.

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Its been 3 years since Natalee Holloway went missing, Aruba, don’t you think its about time this case was closed and answers can be provided to Natalee’s family? As the letter that was recently posted in Diario stated, it’s about time we end this tragedy, let us join together and bring Natalee home. After three years we are still looking for “Justice for Natalee”.

Scared Monkey’s Welcomes Bill O’Reilly & Geraldo Rivera to the Fold as they Finally Embrace the Aruba Boycott and Date Rape in Natalee Holloway Disappearance

Greta and Bill finally see the Scared Monkeys light …

First it was Greta Van Susteren who came back on board with the right SM_LOGOminded logic and thinking of Scared Monkeys and now its Bill O’Reilly … Welcome aboard. Its about time that Bill O’Reilly has decided that he will be looking out for Natalee Holloway.

After all this time Fox New’s Bill O’Reilly finally gets on board with Scared Monkeys, the boycott of Aruba in the mishandling and corruption, and the date rape theory in the case of missing Natalee Holloway. After watching The Factor last night with Bill O’Reilly and Geraldo Rivera one would think that Bill O’Reilly had been reading Scared Monkeys.

So if she supposedly died in your arms, why didn’t you help her? What reason would there ever be for you to feel the need to dispose of a body if a crime was not committed against her? The answer, because there was one committed. No one’s first reaction is to dispose of a body unless they have something to hide like the use of date rape drugs, a sexual assault and further crimes against Natalee Holloway.

Bill O’Reilly initially supported a boycott of Aruba and then backed off the idea Bill O'Reillyas it would unfairly hurt the people of Aruba. Last night on the FACTOR, that all changed as Bill O’Reilly once again supported that no one go to Aruba until justice is served against Joran Van der Sloot.

I’m not going to Aruba until they do. I hope everyone around the world watching me says no to Aruba until the man gets in and gets on trial … Charge him, let the jury decide or no more Aruba and every decent person should feel the way that we do.

Bill O’Reilly seems to have come on board with Scared Monkeys with another key point, the use of a date rape drug on Natalee Holloway. O’Reilly has reversed his original comments that Natalee Holloway was on cocaine.

Natalee Holloway, the 18 year-old woman who disappeared two years ago in Aruba, died from cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of cocaine. According to top law enforcement officials, Natalee ingested the cocaine with Joran van der Sloot and one of the Kalpoe brothers. Her body was then disposed of in the ocean. (O’Reilly Factor: July 19, 2007)

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(At first the media was inclined to believe him as they obviously trusted a not so trustworthy source)

Bill O’Reilly last night for the first time took a page from Scared Monkeys and adamantly promoted the idea that Joran Van der Sloot gave Natalee Holloway a date rape drug and that the reason why he disposed of the body was that Joran did not want an autopsy to find any signs of drugs, sexual assault. Geraldo Rivera even brings up the notion of physical violence committed against Natalee.

You know me, I don’t speculate okay, but I’ll tell you right now why he didn’t call the authorities or the EMS if the woman had a seizure and died, because he raped her, because they slipped some date rate drug inside and any kind of an autopsy would have seen the date rape drug, this guy had history of doing this kind of stuff, we know he prowled the casinos.

You’ve been down there Geraldo, you know what goes on there. They target the tourists, they take the tipsy girls and they do this and any kind of an autopsy, any kind of a medical examination would have shown what these guys did to Natalee Holloway

The O’Reilly FACTOR: February 15, 2008 (full transcript below)

Bill O’Reilly: As you many know, the villain Joran van der Sloot, who we believe was directly involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway almost 2 years ago, was caught on an undercover tape saying the woman died in his presence and the body was thrown into the ocean.

Now, some  believe the Aruban authorities have been covering up for van der Sloot. Joining us now from our New York studio, Geraldo Rivera. Do you believe that?

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BREAKING NEWS! NEW EVIDENCE LEADS TO INTENSIFIED SEARCH IN ARUBA FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

Fox News is reporting that Aruban prosecutors are looking in to NEW EVIDENCE that may show how Natalee Holloway was killed, and how her body disappeared:

Greta Van Susteren posted the statement from the Prosecutor’s office on her blog:

The Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba has intensified its investigation of the case of Natalee Holloway due to recently received information. This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared.

The Public Prosecutor has lately received this information from the Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries. This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee’s disappearance.

In cooperation with the Aruban Police Corps, the Office is currently investigating the reliability and value of this new information. It will be evaluated in relation to the results of the preceding profound research activities. The Aruban Police Corps has continued the investigation of the case despite the formal discontinuation of the prosecution of the suspects of the day, in December 2007. Commissioned investigators are currently charged with further inquiries.

In the interest of the ongoing investigation no further information will be circulated.

Scared Monkeys will supply continuing updates are they are made available.

UPDATE I: Reporter Provides ‘New Evidence’ in Holloway Case Aruban Authorities Will Investigate a Dutch Reporter’s Information About Natalee Holloway

Information from reporter Peter R. de Vries may help resolve what happened to the American teenager, who vanished during a May 2005 school vacation to the Dutch Caribbean island, the prosecutor’s office said in a statement. The statement did not say specifically what the new evidence was. “This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared,” the prosecutor’s office said. Prosecutors dismissed their case against Van der Sloot and two other suspects last month, saying they lacked evidence to charge them or even prove a crime was committed. Authorities have said the case could be reopened if new evidence surfaces.

Aruba Probing New Holloway Case Evidence

Aruban prosecutors said Thursday that authorities are investigating new evidence in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway provided by a Dutch crime reporter.

Information from reporter Peter R. de Vries may help resolve what happened to the American teenager, who vanished during a May 2005 school vacation to the Dutch Caribbean island, the prosecutor’s office said in a statement.

The statement did not say specifically what the new evidence was.

“This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared,” the prosecutor’s office said.

De Teleggraaf: Binnenland: ‘Peter R. heeft zaak-Holloway opgelost’

UPDATE II: New Evidence from Peter R. de Vries – Man on a Mission

Beth Holloway is in the Netherlands to be on Peter de Vries TV show when he provides the information that he has come up with. I am sure she has already been provided with his finding when she arrived in Holland. According to a comment posted, SBS6 News, Beth Twitty has been told information.

Just in SBS6 news: Beth when hearing (and seeing the hidden camera actions?) reacted very emotional and is confident the case is solved now.
When Peter told of Beth’s reaction he had tears in his eyes and almost cried! (Hat Tip: EURobert)

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Translation: Natalee Holloway Case … SOLVED!!!

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UPDATE III: Joran Van der Sloot … Maybe You Want to Rethink Throwing Wine in the Face of a Determined Crime Investigator

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UPDATE IV: VIDEO, New Evidence Could Help Natalee Holloway Case.

It makes us all wonder why the Aruban prosecutor ever initially closed the Natalee Holloway case. It’s not like he had to. Now with new evidence coming to light, the case is reopened.

Prosecutors in Aruba now say …

“they have new evidence that could lead them to solve the mystery as to the mode of the death of Natalee Holloway and the how she was actually moved away, how her body was transported away from the scene.”

(Hat Tip: Carpe)
 
Dutch TV detective Peter R. De Vries has solved the Natalee Holloway case. Natalee’s family can finally have closure.
 
In what’s breaking news, Dutch TV inspector (detective) Peter R. De Vries says that he has solved the case of Natalee Holloway. Peter R. de Vries is very well known in the Netherlands, and has closed more cases; he’s connected with both criminals and law enforcement officials, all of whom (sometimes) help him out.
 
Just saw the press conference. Holloway’s mother is indeed with De Vries and he told her what happened to her daughter his afternoon. He said that she was highly emotional but also relieved. Closure.
When he talked about her he became emotional himself explaining that “it’s not nothing to bring news like this to a mother.”
 
Aruban and Dutch investigators have said that he has, indeed, provided them with crucial information. We’ll have to wait until Sunday to see what happened and who’s responsible, but most people - including myself - believe that Joran van der Sloot is, indeed, the killer. We’ll see Sunday though.
 
Discuss the case here on the forums at Scared Monkeys.net

“Natalee Holloway and the Phonies” … Jossy Mansur Editorial, the Voice of Reason

NATALEE…AND THE PHONIES!

Tired of listening to lies and slander regarding Natalee Holloway and those that would attack a victim who cannot defend herself. Enter Jossy Mansur … the voice of reason.

The only thing that I want to make clear is that I don’t believe in phonies who dialogue with the dead, because I don’t believe in the fiction of contacts with the nether regions. And I say this without cynicism, but guided, not by the “Guiding Light”, but by the light of the pragmatic truth! (Jossy Mansur)

Good riddance phonies, its time to go and leave the investigative work and deductive reasoning to trained professionals who do not wear tin foil hats.

From Diario, Jossy Mansur Editorial, Tuesday, 22 January 2008

NATALEE…AND THE PHONIES!

It’s about time that the phonies that flock around the Natalee case take their leave from it, and let it remain circumscribed to what is written in the police reports. Outside those reports, any one can speculate, pretend to talk to spirits, listen to voices from the nether world, and come up with all sorts of ridiculous statements. Those who really want to know what happened to Natalee must read all the transcripts that the interrogators prepared after listening to the three suspects as well as the father of Joran, plus the number of witnesses and/or people of interest the police brought in for questioning.

To bring spiritualists like Yomanda, or Negro Felipe, or Maria Loionsa, is typical of people who live outside the real world. And for those who do not know, a “spiritualist” is a person who believes in the doctrine that the spirit of the dead can communicate with the living. As far as I am aware, Rudy Croes seems to be a believer in that doctrine.

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No Matter Where They Reside, Defense Attorney Act Lower than Pond Scum … Care to Discuss the Times of the Chats?

DID THE SUSPECTS LAWYERS EXPOSE THEIR OWN CLIENTS IN THEIR NEWS CONFERENCE???

The defense attorney are not denying that the internet chats took place, nor are they denying when the internet chats took place. They are denying the interpretation of the content of what was said. A CNN article reports that Hans Mos stated that the chat took place shortly after May 30, 2005.

Mos said evidence on an Internet chat shortly after May 30, 2005, suggested Holloway was dead and prosecutors used the chat messages to rearrest the three key suspects in the case, CNN reported Friday.

So the real question remains, when was the exact time of this internet chat and why would a suspect. Did the internet chat take place prior to anyone having knowledge that Natalee Holloway was missing? If so, how could they have known?

“That chat session was about two subjects: the disappearance of Natalee and the death of a tennis instructor that drowned near Conchi.

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It makes no difference where they reside, defense attorneys worldwide like to insult our intelligence and throw mud against the wall in an attempt to get guilty suspects off of the crimes they committed. Pond scum of the world rejoice, you just earned a higher rung on the ladder of humanity ahead of defence attorneys.

The lawyers of the “former” three suspects met to discuss away the evidence against their clients, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe. You remember, the 3 people that were last seen with Natalee Holloway prior to her disappearance forever? One thing is for certain, I am not sure how much gloating that these defense attorneys wish to be doing as having been aided by a pathetic investigation. What are they going to say when Natalee’s body is found?

These are the lame excuses they used to defend their clients who have yet to provide an honest statement, cannot explain how Natalee Holloway was never seen again after getting into a vehicle with the three, and a believable scenario as to why one of their clients are reference to Natalee’s death. They will always come up with some excuse as to why their clients are not guilty, that is what they are paid for. Eventually, the excuses come to an end.

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Aruba, Just How Much Evidence Do You Need to Actually Prosecute a Case? When is New Evidence not New Evidence, or is the Issue the Judge Reviewing It?

When is new evidence not new evidence … when it takes place in Aruba. Is it the evidence that is the issue, or is it the judges that are reviewing the evidence?

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One needs to ask the following question of Aruba officials and the Aruban people. What would happen in Aruba if a suspect was tried and convicted of a rape, murder or other violent crime and was serving time in prison only to have new evidence presented in their case because of new technology. Say for instance, new DNA testing that proved 100% that the convicted suspect could never have committed the crime. In Aruba, would that be considered new evidence? Would that new evidence be used to exonerate the suspect and allow the falsely convicted suspect to go free like HERE or HERE. Or would the Aruban legal system say, who cares … you must finish your sentence for a crime that you did not commit?

Now answer that very same question in reverse. What’s the difference when that same new evidence proves that a crime was committed and by who? Would not that be considered new evidence in an investigation? Hmm?

Thus is the situation in the Natalee Holloway investigation where the Aruban prosecutor, Hans Mos, presented new evidence from a suspects computer hard drive that stated, Natalee Holloway was dead”. Evidence that the prosecutor states was only made newly available through new technology from the Netherlands. How can new evidence gained from new technology not be considered new evidence is the real question. The question then really becomes, is it the evidence that is the issue or the judge reviewing the evidence.

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With the newest digital technologies from the Netherlands, the investigation team this time recovered what was impossible earlier.  On the hard drive of a confiscated computer was a chat-session, in which one of the suspects said that the missing teenager Natalee Holloway is dead.  The OM didn’t say which of the suspects said that, but the information is substantial and especially ‘new’ evidence, and sufficient for the OM to arrest the three.  Obtaining information from new technology is also considered new evidence, explained Mos.  He compared it with a DNA-investigation that after years, can still give evidence.

Take a good hard look at what this evidence really is folks. A suspect who was last seen with Natalee Holloway before she disappeared forever and said she was dead. This occurred between 5 and 6 hours after Natalee Holloway was last seen with the three suspects. Why would a person who was seen leaving Carlos n’ Charlie’s with Natalee Holloway ever reference the word “dead” if they did not have person knowledge that the Alabama teenager was in fact dead? We have been told all during this case, “if there is no body, there is no crime”. That is utter nonsense, if a suspect references the fact that the person in question is dead … then guess what … that is a complete admission to the fact that she is. Now the question arises, how and why would any of the three suspects make such a claim or even have knowledge of such information? This admission of “death” is long before the story had ever been reported or the TV cameras and media came to Aruba.

In an Internet chat shortly after Holloway vanished, one of the three suspects said she was dead, Mos said.

The chat, retrieved from a computer hard disk, was among new evidence prosecutors used to justify re-arresting the three in November, he said.

New technology that was not available in 2005 was used to find that chat and more between two of the three suspects, as well as others, he said. (CNN)

We will not even get into the fact that the three suspects had an MO and openly bragged on line about what their plans were to do to American girls that they picked up. No premeditation there, huh? Think there were references to the potential use of “date rape” drugs in those chat sessions? Seriously people, how exactly do you think that a person walks out of a bar in less that 1/2 hours with another person that they had never met before? Hmm?

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