IRS Deputy Inspector General Timothy P. Camus Tells Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) on Thursday It Took Investigators 2 Weeks to Recover 424 Backup Tapes of Lois Lerner’s Missing Emails Previously Said to be Unretrievable
IMAGINE THAT, ALL ONE HAD TO DO TO FIND LOIS LERNER’S MISSING IRS EMAILS WAS TO ASK …
Former IRS official Lois Lerner’s irretrievable and lost emails have been found. During a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing on Thursday, IRS Deputy Inspector General Timothy P. Camus told Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) that it took OIG investigators just two weeks to recover 424 backup tapes that were previously said to be irretrievable. Camus said that “There is potential criminal activity.” GEE, YA THINK!!!
Of course we knew that Lerner’s emails existed all along, this has all been one big concerted coverup by the IRS because they know this scandal goes all the way to the Obama White House.
The IRS’s inspector general confirmed Thursday it is conducting a criminal investigation into how Lois G. Lerner’s emails disappeared, saying it took only two weeks for investigators to find hundreds of tapes the agency’s chief had told Congress were irretrievably destroyed.
Investigators have already scoured 744 backup tapes and gleaned 32,774 unique emails, but just two weeks ago they found an additional 424 tapes that could contain even more Lerner emails, Deputy Inspector General Timothy P. Camus told the House Oversight Committee in a rare late-night hearing meant to look into the status of the investigation.
“There is potential criminal activity,” Mr. Camus said.
WHO THINKS THAT ONE OF WE THE PEOPLE COULD EVER GET AWAY WITH THE FOLLOWING WITH THE IRS? People need to go to jail over this scandal and the IRS needs to be abolished so that this never happen again. The IRS cannot be used as a political weapon against “We the People” no matter what your political affiliation might be.
Partial transcript from hearing:
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT): Had anyone ever asked them for the tapes?
IRS Deputy Inspector General Timothy P. Camus: No.
Chaffetz: “We send a subpoena, we send letters, we have hearings, we hear all kinds of excuses from the IRS. They cant have them, they’re recycled, they’ve been destroyed, their not available. We can’t fine them. Every excuse you can have under the sun. You find them in two weeks, and then when you go talk to the IT people who are there in charge of them, they told you that they were never even asked for them. Is that correct?
Camus: That is correct.
IRS-Gate Continues … IRS Now Says It Has Lost Emails of Five Other Employees Related to Congressional Probes
NEXT TIME THE IRS HARASSES YOU, IMAGINE IF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU USED THE EXACT SAME TACTICS THEY HAVE USED TO EXPLAIN AWAY LOST EMAILS, DOCUMENTS, BLACKBERRY’S AND PLEADING THE 5TH …
IRS-GATE CONTINUES … The Internal Revenue Service is now claiming that they have lost emails from five other IRS employees, related to Congressional probes into the IRS targeting conservative non-profit Tea Party groups, including two agents who worked in a Cincinnati office processing applications for tax-exempt status. Imagine that, what a coincidence? Right Wind News says, “at this point, even liberals have to admit that this stinks like a 5 day old fish.” I am not so sure, I believe they have lost their sense of smell and sense of loyalty to country, rather than party. It is true that all, including elected Democrat politicians, the MSM and Democrat voters can see the IRS corruption, lying and cover-up , but are completely unwilling to hold the IRS accountable. Of course it would be a different story if they were the one’s being targeted, see Richard Nixon.
House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa stated, “The IRS’s ever-changing story is practically impossible to follow at this point, as they modify it each time to accommodate new facts. This pattern must stop.” Attention Darrell Issa, House Republicans, et all, the only way the IRS’s pattern is going to stop is to defund the agency and abolish it. Enough is enough, never did our Founding Fathers ever foresee the creation of any central government agency with such unchecked powers to target political enemies.
The IRS said Friday that it has lost emails from five other employees involved in congressional probes into the agency’s targeting of conservative groups, leading one top Republican to declare “this pattern must stop.”
The announcement comes after the agency said in June that it could not locate an untold number of emails to and from Lois Lerner, who headed the IRS division that processes applications for tax-exempt status. The revelation set off a new round of investigations and congressional hearings.
On Friday, the IRS issued a report to Congress saying the agency also lost emails from five other employees related to the probe, including two agents who worked in a Cincinnati office processing applications for tax-exempt status.
House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, whose committee has been investigating the scandal, said the disclosure is yet another example of the Obama administration changing its story on the scandal.
“The IRS’s ever-changing story is practically impossible to follow at this point, as they modify it each time to accommodate new facts,” Issa, R-Calif., said. “This pattern must stop.”
Posted September 6, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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Rasmussen: 71% of Voters Believe the IRS Deliberately Destroyed E-mails to Hide Guilt of Criminal Activity
According to a recent Rasmussen poll, a remarkably 71% of voters believe that the IRS deliberately and willfully destroyed emails related to IRS-gate and the targeting of Tea Party and other conservative groups to hide evidence of criminal activity. Only 22% believe the IRS did not break the law, while 4% were undecided. It is fair to say that this polling is a resounding condemnation against the IRS that crosses all political parties. How bad is it when a government agency like the IRS is believed to play partisan politics and cannot be trusted?
Think about this, more than 7 in 10 individuals surveyed believe that the IRS committed a criminal activity in destruction of property and obstruction of justice to hide the guilt of their even greater criminal activity as a Democrat party ignores it and Barack Obama calls it a phoney scandal. This should be chilling for all Americans.
Most voters think it’s likely the IRS deliberately destroyed e-mails about its investigations of Tea Party and other conservative groups to hide its criminal behavior. Two-out-of-three now believe IRS employees involved in these investigations should be jailed or fired, and most suspect the agency of targeting other political opponents of the Obama administration.
As we are reminded by Real Clear Politics, a recent Fox News poll found similar results, 76% of voters surveyed believed that ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails were deliberately destroyed. The distrust in the IRS was spread across all parties, including 90% of Republicans, 74% of Independents and 63% of Democrats. Only 12% of respondents believe the emails were accidently destroyed.
It gets better, these are the folks in charge of enforcing Obamacare. How’s that “Hopey-Changey” stuff working out for ya America?
Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX 36) Bill: “The Dog Ate My Tax Receipts Act” Allows Taxpayers to Use Same Lame Excuses as IRS
WHY SHOULDN’T THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS BE ALLOWED TO USE THE SAME EXCUSES AS THE IRS?
Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX 36) is introducing a bill to Congress that would allow “We the People” to be on the same footing as the IRS. After all, it is supposed to be a government of, by and for the people. The bill titled, “The Dog Ate My Tax Receipts Act” would allow taxpayers who do not produce documents for the Internal Revenue Service to be able to offer a variety of dubious excuses similar to the same ones that the IRS offered to House investigators in the IRS scandal where the IRS purposely targeted conservative non-profit groups.
Feel free to come up with your own, maybe they can be submitted as amendments.
“The United States was founded on the belief government is subservient and accountable to the people. Taxpayers shouldn’t be expected to follow laws the Obama administration refuses to follow themselves,” said Stockman. “Taxpayers should be allowed to offer the same flimsy, obviously made-up excuses the Obama administration uses.”
Under Stockman’s bill, “The Dog Ate My Tax Receipts Act,” taxpayers who do not provide documents requested by the IRS can claim one of the following reasons:
1. The dog ate my tax receipts
2. Convenient, unexplained, miscellaneous computer malfunction
3. Traded documents for five terrorists
4. Burned for warmth while lost in the Yukon
5. Left on table in Hillary’s Book Room
6. Received water damage in the trunk of Ted Kennedy’s car
7. Forgot in gun case sold to Mexican drug lords
8. Forced to recycle by municipal Green Czar
9. Was short on toilet paper while camping
10. At this point, what difference does it make?
The full text of the resolution follows:
The height of contempt and arrogance … IRS Commissioner John Koskinen does not think that an apology is owed for the lost Lois Lerner emails and the stonewalling by the IRS. Koskinen said he didn’t inform Congress immediately because he wanted to find out the full scope of the situation before reporting to them. But some how the Treasury Department and White House were notified in advance of Congress and the American people.
Internal Revenue Service Commissioner John Koskinen said Friday that he does not owe an apology for computer crashes that resulted in the loss of emails connected to an ongoing probe.
“I don’t think an apology is owed,” Koskinen said during a tense hearing with lawmakers on Capitol Hill. “Not a single email has been lost since the start of this investigation.”
Last week, the IRS acknowledged that the computer of Lois Lerner, the IRS employee at the center of the probe, experienced a hard drive crash in 2011, making some of her emails inaccessible for the investigation. Koskinen said the IRS is taking measures to restore the emails and noted that the loss took place before the investigation began.
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) says during Friday’s House Ways and Means Committee hearing on the IRS scandal of targeting conservative non-profit organizations and the convenient IRS losing of Lois Lerners’s emails … “This is unbelievable. The apology that ought to be given is to the American tax payer, not to a government agency that is abusing it’s power.
Posted June 22, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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Audiance Gasps at House Ways and Means Committee Hearing When IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Admits Lois Lerner’s Missing Hard Drive Was Recycled & Destroyed
House Committee on Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp said in his opening statement, “We are missing a huge piece of the puzzle. How convenient for the IRS and the administration.”
During Friday’s House Ways and Means Committee hearing on the IRS conservative targeting scandal, audible gasps could be heard in the room from the audience as IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress that Lois Lerner’s hard drive was recycled and destroyed. Rep. Dave Camp (R-MI), House Ways and Means Committee Chair questioned IRS Commissioner Koskinen on the condition and location of Lois Lerner’s hard drive. When asked by Camp whether the IRS Commissioner knew where Lerner’s hard drive was Koskinen responded, “after it was determined that it was dysfunctional and that with experts no emails could be retrieved was recycled and destroyed.” When further pressed as to where the hard drive was Koskinen responded, “I have no idea what the recycler does with it. This was three years ago.”
Imagine saying the same to an IRS agent during an audit, I have no idea where the data was, that was 7 years ago.
Transcript of discussion between US Representative and House Ways and Means Committee Chair Dave Camp (R-MI):
Rep. Camp: Do you know where the actual hard drive is that crashed in 2011?
IRS Commissioner Koskinen: I am advised that the actual hard drive after it was determined that it was dysfunctional and that with experts no emails could be retrieved was recycled and destroyed in the normal process.”
GASPS from the audiance
Rep. Camp: So was it physically destroyed?
IRS Commissioner Koskinen: That is my understanding.
Rep. Camp: So was it melted down do you know?
IRS Commissioner Koskinen: I have no idea what the recycler does with it. This was three years ago.
ONCE AGAIN THE IRS SHOWS CONTEMPT FOR WE THE PEOPLE AND DISPLAY THEY THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW …
US Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) ripped into IRS Commissioner John Koskinen during yesterday’s Ways and Means Committee Hearing on the investigation of the IRS targeting conservative non-profit groups and more specifically, the sudden revelation that former IRS head Lois Lerner’s emails disappeared due to a convenient hard drive crash. Ryan said to the arrogant and defiant IRS Commissioner, “I don’t Believe You”.
It’s about time some one put the IRS in its place and defended the American people against this rogue agency.
“You are the Internal Revenue Service. You can reach into the lives of hardworking tax payers and with a phone call, an email or letter you can turn their lives upside down. You ask tax payers to hang on to 7 years of their person tax information in case they are ever audited and you cant keep 6 months worth of employee emails? And now that we are seeing this investigation you don’t have the emails, hard drives crashed. You learned about this months ago and you just told us and we had to ask you on Monday. This is not being forthcoming, this is being misleading again. This is a pattern of abuse, a pattern that does not give us any confidence that this agency is being impartial. I don’t believe you.”
A defiant IRS Commissioner on Friday refused to apologize for the loss of ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails, and said the agency produced what they could, at a combative hearing marked by accusations by Republicans of IRS deceit.
The meeting comes a week after the agency revealed that two years worth of emails to and from Lerner, the ex-official at the center of the tea party targeting controversy, were lost when her hard drive crashed in 2011.
“I don’t think an apology is owed,” chief John Koskinen told Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp after the Republican lawmaker asked for one at the first hearing on the email issue.
But of course the IRS claims they did not conceal anything and did not mislead the committee yet, as discussed at Hot Air, the White House notified of missing IRS e-mail 6 weeks before Congress?
Remember when IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform on March 26, 2014 and told Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) during the hearing that former IRS employee Lois Lerner’s emails were archived and not just necessarily in her sent box in Outlook. Koskinen said it would take a long time even as he argued whether he would would would not comply with the House subpoena.
Chaffetz asks IRS Commissioner: “Are you going to comply with subpoena?”
Watergate IRS-gate is a long way from over and the rate this is going with the Obama administration and their cronies attempting to stonewall and have the American people believe the improbable and the impossible, it is going to come to a head right around the 2016 elections.
HYPOCRISY AT IT’S WORSE …
So what happens to Americans who fraudulently claim unemployment benefits, misuse a company credit card or not pay your taxes, you would be arrested, charged with a crime, no longer allowed to use the hand out program, get reprimanded or fired from your job and have the IRS threaten you, place liens on your property and garnish your wages. What happens to an IRS employee fraudulently claiming unemployment benefits, misusing government credit cards and failing to pay their taxes … THEY GET BONUSES!!!
When is enough, enough with this out of control rogue agency? The Founding Fathers did not intend a federal government to have federal agencies that acted above the law. It is time for a flat tax so that everyone, and I mean everyone pay their fair share, as well as to end this governmental agency of corruption, cronyism and fear. I wonder if any of the IRS employees who received bonuses and owed back taxes have been audited?
A report from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration shows that between Oct. 1, 2010, and Dec. 31, 2012, the IRS paid $2.8 million in bonuses to employees cited in the past year for such things as drug use, making violent threats, fraudulently claiming unemployment benefits, misusing government credit cards and — get this — failing to pay their taxes.
The report said more than 1,100 employees who failed to pay their taxes received discretionary awards of more than $1 million in cash bonuses and more than 10,000 hours in extra paid vacation.
At least five employees received performance awards after being disciplined for intentionally under-reporting their tax liabilities for multiples years, paying taxes late and under-reporting income.
Like many companies and government agencies, the IRS sweetens the deal for its employees by giving bonuses based on performance. But at the IRS, breaking the federal tax laws you were hired to enforce and running afoul of other agency rules aren’t considered relevant to performance-based awards.
I guess we are now giving bus drivers who get into accident and police officers with criminal records raises and bonuses too?
What a Coincidence … Cancer Patient Bill Elliot Who Spoke Out Against ObamaCare Now Being Audited by IRS
THIS IS REALLY DISTURBING, DO WE REALLY HAVE A GOVERNMENT TARGETING AMERICANS WHO DARE BE CRITICAL OF OMAMA?
Bill Elliot, a cancer patient who lost his insurance due to Obamacare and couldn’t pay the expensive new premiums, went on FOX News, ‘The Kelly Files’ to tell his story. Now, suddenly Bill Elliot is being audited by the IRS, scheduled in April 2014. That is if he actually lives that long. There seems to be an extremely disturbing pattern of the IRS being used as the Obama administrations storm troopers for anyone critical of Obama’s policies or who would dare use their 1st Amendment rights of free speech. The cancer victim had an insurance policy he liked and could afford. Now, thanks to Obamacare, he does not and can’t afford the ridiculous premiums. So what is the remedy for this cancer patient for a president who cares, why have him audited of course.
What a vindictive government! This is still the United States, right?
He went on FOX News where his story was picked up by C. Steven Tucker, a health insurance broker who helped him keep his insurance.
Now suddenly Bill Elliot is being audited for 2009 with an interview only scheduled in April 2014. Assuming he lives that long. That might be a coincidence, but Tucker is being audited back to 2003.
That’s a rather strange coincidence.
Would the IRS actually go after a cancer patient, who had voted for Obama initially, just for appearing on FOX and now being sharply critical of Obama and suggesting that he resign for his health plan lie?
Under the current insane state of affairs, where the IRS was used to silence the opposition, it’s unfortunately entirely possible. The fact that we are even having this discussion shows how badly Obama has undermined confidence in government institutions and the rule of law.
HAS THE IRS NO SHAME?
As if the IRS did not have enough scandals to worry about, they now have a new one. The IRS is now targeting our nation’s veterans and the American Legion. What is wrong with this organization? It is obvious that the IRS is not a bunch of rogue agents, but a “rouge” government agency that does as it pleases without concern. It is time that we put and end to the IRS and develop a flat tax. Seriously, what is the difference these days between the IRS and the mob or terrorist? They operate on the premise of fear and intimidation and feel they answer to now one. Take a good look what tyranny looks like.
If the president wants to get angry about something, how about getting mad about the IRS leaping on the American Legion, requiring individual Legion posts to provide proof of their members’ eligibility, virtually accusing the veterans organization of being a cover for and sanctioning tax fraud?
As the Daily Caller has learned, this targeting of the American Legion is happening under a 13-part section of Part 4, Chapter 76 of the Internal Revenue Manual pertaining to “veterans’ organizations.” The section falls under “Exempt Organizations Examination Guidelines,” which was the jurisdiction of Exempt Organizations head Lerner.
“The American Legion has recently learned of the so-called IRS ‘audit manual’ and is concerned that portions of it attempt to amend statutes passed by Congress and approved by the president,” American Legion legal counsel Philip Onderdonk Jr. told The Daily Caller.
“The IRS now requires American Legion posts to maintain dates of service and character of service records for all members. …The penalty for not having the required proof of eligibility is, apparently, $1,000 per day,” the American Legion stated.
As if targeting conservative and Tea Party groups was not bad enough to ensure that Barack Obama would be reelected in 2012, lets go after the vets too. UNREAL.