Why Do Three Boys Go to Carlos N’ Charlie’s One Half Hour Before Closing when Mountain Brook Teens were there on their last night in Aruba? Gee, I Wonder?
So what would make three boys, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe go to a known bar with drunk tourists one half hour before closing? It certainly was not to dance as Joran has told us he does not really dance. It couldn’t be for Deepak or Satish to flirt with the female tourists as they seemed to not do that by all accounts of the records of what happened that night at Carlos N’ Charlie’s.
So why would these three boys go to a bar to meet a group of girls from Mountain Brook, AL one half hour before the bar closed if Joran Van der Sloot had previously stated that Sunday night was no fun at C&C’s.
MCVAY: He came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up.
Joran Van der Sloot confirms that is exactly what he said that night to the Mountain Brook girls.
VAN DER SLOOT: And I remember afterwards going into — right behind that casino is a little bar, and I remember watching — walking in there. And there was a baseball game on TV, and again, the group of girls was sitting there. And they said, Oh, yes, don’t forget to come out tonight. And I told them that on Sunday, it wasn’t a good night to go out. It wasn’t fun. It wasn’t — and — but they said, You know, if you want to come, come. And I ended up deciding that, yes, I might as well go and have fun. (Fox – ‘On the Record,’ Part 1)
However, Joran Van der Sloot while meeting the Mountain Brook teens at the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn,learned that they were going to Carlos N’ Charlie’s later that night. Joran Van der Sloot must have also learned that this was the teens last night on Aruba as well. To many boys on the island that is code for a “Shark feeding frenzy.”
VAN DER SLOOT: You know, we were just talking socially. It was just — it was just — it was just talking with nothing — nothing else involved. And then they ended up asking me if — they ended up telling me it was their last night and asked if I wanted to go to Carlos ‘n Charlie’s.
VAN SUSTEREN: Had you been to Carlos ‘n Charlie’s before? You know the place?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I know the place. I went there on weekends a lot. It’s just — it’s a place where I know — it’s fun place. It’s a place where people go and hang out and have fun. I mean… (Fox News – Greta)
So who did Joran initially intend to meet up with at Carlos N’ Charlie’s? So in one half hour prior to closing Joran Van der Sloot did not find his intended target, but managed to find another.
VAN SUSTEREN: Interested in any of them at — at the poker table?
VAN DER SLOOT: Interested? No, not really. I was more talking — the girl that was sitting next to me, I was — I thought she was pretty and I was talking to her. And when I went — what the point was for going to Carlos ‘n Charlie’s was I wanted to actually meet up with her.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you remember her name?
VAN DER SLOOT: I don’t — I didn’t remember it, but I remember it now because I heard it afterwards. I think her name was Kathleen.
After having told the Mountain Brook girls that C&C’s was a waste of time on Sunday night, Joran Van der Sloot decided that he was going to go anyhow. Joran would also make the conscious decision to lie to his father that he was going out to Carlos N’ Charlie’s. WHY? We thought that the Van der Sloot taught their son to tell the truth? Isn’t that how they claim they brought him up?
VAN SUSTEREN: At the point where you called him, were you intending to go to Carlos and Charlie’s at that point? Had you made up your mind?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I’d made up my mind that I was going to go there, and I’d also made up my mind that I wasn’t going to tell him that I was going to go there because I know he would have said no. He would have said that I couldn’t go. So I had made up my own mind that I was going to go out without him knowing.
What makes Joran Van der Sloot’s decision to go to C&C’s even more interesting after stating that, “Sunday, it wasn’t a good night to go out” was the fact that he knew that these girls had been drinking. This coupled with his views of how American’s drank on vacation and on their last night was all that was needed to change his mind to go out.
The fact that he would find fault in that “they go overboard, and that’s something that’s — that’s bad, something that shouldn’t happen.” A bad thing? This is what he hoped and prayed would occur.
VAN DER SLOOT: I mean, yes, they were drinking liberally and freely, but I mean, I think they had every right to. I mean, they had graduated. They just finished their high school. You know, they’d just been — they’d finished their high school, and I think they had every right to come to Aruba and have — and you know, and celebrate their graduation. I mean, they worked for that their whole life. And I’ve met tons of people that do the same thing.
And I mean, one problem I might have seen with it is the drinking age in the United States is 21 and the drinking age in Aruba is 18. And you know, I’ve met a lot of people that when they’re — you know, whose parents don’t let them drink or do anything like that, and when they — you know, when they come to Aruba and they get a chance to drink, they go — you know, they go overboard, and that’s something that’s — that’s bad, something that shouldn’t happen.
Joran Van der Sloot then calls Deepak Kalpoe and asks him if he wanted to go to Carlos N’ Charlie’s as he had met some girls at the casino earlier in the day. Deepak says yes as he has done in the past. This was not the first time that Deepak and Joran had ever gone to C&C’s together.
VAN SUSTEREN: What — so where — where’d you ever gone with Deepak? I mean, what kind of stuff did you guys do? How well do you know him?
VAN DER SLOOT: You know, we hung out together sometimes. We’d go out to Carlos and Charlie’s together sometimes, but I don’t know him that well.
Joran claims he did not know Deepak all that well but he had no issue to call someone at 11pm and ask them if they wanted to drive to his house and then to Carlos N’ Charlie’s.
VAN SUSTEREN: Had you ever called him sort of late at night or 10:00 o’clock at night, 11:00 o’clock at night before and said, Let’s go out?
Joran states, “So I’d give him a call sometimes, or another friend of mine, you know, Let’s go out.” Or another friend? So Joran in his comment thinks of Deepak as a friend. Or is it that he “does not know him that well?” Joran Van der Sloot can’t even seem to be consistent on this answer.
VAN DER SLOOT: Oh, yes. I’d done that before, you know, because I don’t have a car. I don’t — didn’t have a driver’s license and I’m not allowed to drive. So if I want to go out, yes, I’m dependent on — on friends, that — you know, that have a car. So I’d give him a call sometimes, or another friend of mine, you know, Let’s go out.
Deepak and Satish Kalpoe get in Deepak’s car and drive to pick up Joran Van der Sloot They arrive at Joran’s house and then drive to Carlos N” Charlie’s and arrive there at 12:30am. The bar closes at 1am.
VAN DER SLOOT: When they picked me up, we went straight there, straight to Carlos and Charlie’s.
VAN SUSTEREN: When you arrived at Carlos ‘n Charlie’s, any idea about what time it is?
VAN DER SLOOT: It was probably, you know, 12:15, I think, 12:30 maybe.
VAN SUSTEREN: How late does it stay open?
VAN DER SLOOT: That night it was open until 1:00 AM.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is that usual? I mean, every…
VAN DER SLOOT: Every — during weekdays, it’s open until 1:00 AM, yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: And were the girls from Mountain Brook already there?
Joran Van der Sloot gets to a bar where he pretty much knows that these Mountain Brook teenage girls have been drinking all day since and after he met them at the casino. It is now 1/2 hour to closing time and they have been in C&C’s where all there is to do is get drunk and Joran knows that they are on their last night of vacation and they are partying hard. What does the responsible Joran Van der Sloot do who claims that American teens drink too much? Joran Van der Sloot orders Natalee Holloway a 151 rum shot. WHY? This is hardly a shot that a girl would do. One could envision a shot of an Alabama Slammer, a Jolly Rancher or even tequila. Not a shot of 151 rum, hell I haven’t even ever done a shot of 151, only on the rocks.
So Joran’s answer is to find the easiest mark, who had been drinking the most and showing the most signs of being drunk and feeding even more alcohol to her. Then as the end of the night grows near at Carlos N’ Charlie’s manage to separate her from her friends. Joran had stated that they had been drinking when he met them at the casino, what good reason could he have to be feeding Natalee Holloway 151 rum on top of every thing else if it was not to get her even more drunk?
VAN SUSTEREN: Is there a way to describe her, I mean, and whether she seemed or appeared to be, you know, drinking? Did she seem to be drunk?
VAN DER SLOOT: Oh… she’d been drinking, but she wasn’t drunk. I mean, she knew what she was doing. And you know, all the people there were drinking, as well. I mean, that’s just — that’s normal when you go out and have a drink with your friends.
VAN DER SLOOT: Well, so next, then she said OK, so let’s take another shot, is what she told me. So she wanted to take a shot with me. But it was probably close to 1:00 AM there then, and the bar was closing. So I said, OK, well, we can go to the other bar. And then I asked her, What do you want to drink? And she’s, like, Whatever. So she said, yes (INAUDIBLE) What do you suggest. And I said, Bacardi 151. That’s a shot I normally take with my friends. And we took a shot together. And after that, we just were talking a while. And I saw Satish, and Satish said — said, Let’s go. And then — Deepak, I don’t know where he was. I didn’t see him in Carlos and Charlie’s after that.Joran Van der Sloot then leaves Carlos N’ Charlie’s at 1am, one half hour after he got there, where he somehow managed in that short time span to spot, target and and leave with Natalee Holloway. His intension was to take her back to his house. Look like he has done this before?
VAN DER SLOOT: No, not at all. That came very spontaneously. She’s like, “OK, you want me to go with you?” And I was like “OK.” And I saw her go up to some of her friends. I don’t know what she said to them. And then, yes, then we — then we ended up leaving. The plan was to go to my house.
VAN SUSTEREN: So, what time do you think you stepped foot out of Carlos ‘N’ Charlie’s?
VAN DER SLOOT: Probably, yes probably 1:00 a.m.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did you walk — you walked out with Natalee?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I walked out with her.
VAN SUSTEREN: And she had your hand or you had her hand?
Joran and Natalee Holloway walk out of Carlos N’ Charlie’s to Deepak’s car that was parked in the back parking lot. Interestingly enough Deepak Kalpoe was already in his car and the engine running. Were the three boys leaving a bar with Natalee or was this a getaway car ala a bank heist? Why would Deepak have already been in the car and Joran escorting Natalee out right at the exact closing time? Why separate Natalee Holloway so quickly from her friends? Who is already in a car waiting at the precise time a bar closes? No bar empties out that quickly that one has to precisely leave at 1am.
Does anyone really not understand what these three were doing all along? Joran Van der Sloot even states that what they did this night at Carlos N’ Charlie’s was no different than they had done in the past.
VAN SUSTEREN: Where was Deepak?
VAN DER SLOOT: He was waiting at his car.
VAN SUSTEREN: Any reason why he went out ahead?
VAN DER SLOOT: I don’t know. You have to ask him that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Is he sort of, I mean a guy who enjoys the bar scene?
VAN DER SLOOT: I don’t know. Again, you’ll have to ask him that I mean.
VAN SUSTEREN: How about the girls, they like him?
VAN DER SLOOT: I don’t know. You’ll have to ask him that.
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, Greta: And you’re like, you know, what, you know what are you doing? Because it was… it was a normal… it was a normal thing for us to do, you know, go to our friends, go to the beach, talk to American tourists, you know, then go out with them and have a good time and, you know, nothing… nothing ever bad has ever happened. I mean it’s happened probably 20, 20 times nothing has ever gone wrong. (Fox – Greta Interview part 2)So according to Joran Van der Sloot what transpired that night had probably happened some 20 previous times. However, nothing bad ever happened. Doesn’t this sound strangely familiar to the statement from early in the investigation to “something bad happened?” Then suddenly the statement was retracted.
Joran Van der Sloot states that he lied about leaving Natalee on the beach because he was scared. How could one be scared of a pattern of behavior? Joran Van der Sloot went to Carlos N’ Charlie’s with Deepak and Satish as they have done numerous times in the past. To find a drunk or drugged American tourist girl and have sex with them. Whether the girl remembered or not the next day or while on the return flight back to America was irrelevant.
One of three young men who took an Alabama teenager to the beach during a high school graduation trip to Aruba said “something bad happened” to her, police said Friday.
Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that the man was leading police late Friday to the scene. He refused to identify which young man had made the statement.
Joran van der Sloot, the Dutch teen who was the last person seen with Natalee Holloway the night she disappeared in Aruba, said he lied about leaving the American teen alone at the beach because he was scared. (ABC News)
The fact that Joran states that he did not have sex with Natalee Holloway because he did not have a condom is laughable. The sole point of why he went to Carlos N’ Charlie’s one half hour before closing time to find a drunk Mountain Brook teen was to have sex with them. It did not matter who, that was the plan and that was the game. That was always the game.
The Kalpoes state that Natalee Holloway was drunk, Joran states that she was not. Joran’s attorney Joe Tacopina has even made statements to the effect that Natalee was drunk. How could she not be at this point?
The question becomes among many, what did Joran Van der Sloot mean by, “nothing ever bad has ever happened. I mean it’s happened probably 20, 20 times nothing has ever gone wrong?” Is he saying something went wrong as to the reason why she is missing? Does he mean that he has left 20 girls on the beach in a drunken state? If this is so it is hardly believable that he feels bad in leaving Natalee on the beach as he has done so to so many others before.
The next question that needs to be answered is why did the Kalpoe’s drive to Joran’s house and to Carlos N’ Charlies? What was in it for them? No one just leaves home, drives a friend to a bar for a half hour so he can scam on female tourists and then drives them around the island so he can make out in their back seat, leaves them at a beach and then pick then up later at the end of the night. NO ONE. What was Deepak’s and Satish’s reward for being the getaway driver?
This is the reason why the three suspects stories do not match. This is the reason why they continually lied in jail. This is the reason why neither party can come out and just blame the other for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. They are all, Joran, Deepak and Satish tied into the story of Natalee’s disappearance. To blame one is to blame all. All three will be found to be complicit. Thus the lie continues.
Why would three suspects continue to lie about their obvious involvement and being the last to ever be seen with Natalee Holloway only makes it more obvious. This was a pattern of behavior with these three with American female tourists. Joran Van der Sloot said a mouthful when he made the following comment.
Because it was… it was a normal… it was a normal thing for us to do, you know, go to our friends, go to the beach, talk to American tourists, you know, then go out with them and have a good time and, you know, nothing… nothing ever bad has ever happened. I mean it’s happened probably 20, 20 times nothing has ever gone wrong.What more admission does one need?