The Affordable Care Act, Barack Obama’s signature piece of legislation has just been one lie after another …
Remember when President Barack Obama promised that Obamacare would reduce the number of expensive ER visits as access to other kinds of care was expanded? But of course this is the same signature piece of legislation where Obama promised that you could keep your own doctor, hospital and insurance plan if you liked them. Those were all lies as well. When the majority of people that are signing up for it are doing so as a form of medicaid, of course the ER is going to be used as a clinic. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure that one out. But of course Obama was going to lie through his teeth to the American people to get Obamacare passed, as Jonathan Gruber said, they had all considered the stupidity of the American voter to be key.
With the healthcare expansion last year, many are watching how the Affordable Care Act affects emergency room use.
President Obama has promised his signature health law will gradually reduce expensive ER visits as access to other kinds of care is expanded. Critics contend newly insured patients — especially those enrolled in Medi-Cal, the state’s low-income health program that picks up most patient costs — aren’t likely to seek care elsewhere, and will overwhelm emergency rooms.
Neither of those outcomes were clearly evident in the first months of the new healthcare system’s operation in Los Angeles County, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis.
Data hospitals report to the state show that as insurance coverage was extended to hundreds of thousands of residents, ER visits for ailments not serious enough to require an admission grew 3.9% in the county in the first half of 2014, compared with the same period the previous year. The growth is in line with annual increases of 3% to 5% in the three years prior to the federal healthcare overhaul.
- If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
- “Affordable” Care. Obamacare Will Make Health Insurance More Affordable, even the president’s ideological cronies acknowledge that the Affordable Care Act is far from inexpensive for most Americans and that it “risks being a cruel joke.”
- It will prevent people from going into debt.
- ObamaCare will lower costs overall.
- Congress Meant for Subsidies to Flow Through State-based and Federal Exchanges
- More Americans will be insured.
- The Individual Mandate ‘Is Absolutely Not a Tax Increase’
GRUBERGATE: Barack Obama Adviser Jonathan Gruber Said Back in 2009, Obamacare Will Not Be Affordable
GRUBERGATE: HE’S BACK … GRUBER SAID IN 2009 THAT THE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE ACT WOULD NOT BE AFFORDABLE.
Imagine that, once of the chief architects of Obamacare, the Affordable Healthcare Act, said back in 2009 that it would not be affordable. Newly revealed Johnathan Gruber documents keep the unpopular signature piece of legislation by Barack Obama at the forefront of political discussion as 2015 will be much like 2014 for Democrats, running for cover and away from Obamacare. Johnathan Gruber is like the gift that keeps on giving. The docs reveal that Gruber questioned the affordability. Gruber said, “So what’s different this time? Why are we closer than we’ve ever been before? Because there are no cost controls in these proposals. Because this bill’s about coverage. Which is good! Why should we hold 48 million uninsured people hostage to the fact that we don’t yet know how to control costs in a politically acceptable way? Let’s get the people covered and then let’s do cost control.”
American voters are stupid and Obamacare will not be affordable
President Obama’s health care adviser Jonathan Gruber said that the Affordable Care Act would definitely not be affordable while he was writing the bill with the White House.
As Gruber continues to withhold documents while he awaits a call-back for more testimony before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in the new year, more shocking information is coming to light detailing the deceptions that went into the writing of the health-care law
Gruber said that Obamacare had no cost controls in it and would not be affordable in an October 2009 policy brief, presented here exclusively by TheDC. At the time, Gruber had already personally counseled Obama in the Oval Office and served on Obama’s presidential transition team. Obama, meanwhile, told the American people that their premiums would go down dramatically.
Gruber goes on to admit that there were NO cost controls initially in Obamacare, that they would deceptively get people hooked on faux coverage, then pull the rug out from underneath them by rationing care:
“So what’s different this time? Why are we closer than we’ve ever been before? Because there are no cost controls in these proposals. Because this bill’s about coverage. Which is good! Why should we hold 48 million uninsured people hostage to the fact that we don’t yet know how to control costs in a politically acceptable way? Let’s get the people covered and then let’s do cost control.”
At the same time, Obama was lying to Americans, telling us that annual premium costs would decline by an average of $2,500 per family, a number that was apparently pulled out of thin air.
Gruber then admits that, under Obamacare, the only way for the scheme to work will be by rationing care:
“There’s no reason the American health care system can’t be, ‘You can have whatever you want, you just have to pay for it.’ That’s what we do in other walks of life. We don’t say everyone has to have a large screen TV. If you want a large screen TV, you have to pay for it. Basically the notion would be to move to a level where everyone has a solid basic insurance level of coverage. Above that people pay their own, without tax-subsidized dollars, to buy a higher level of coverage.”
Johnathan Gruber Apologizes … Rep. Trey Gowdy Grills Gruber: Did You Apologize Because You Said It Or Meant It?
YESTERDAYS MENU: GRILLED
GROUPER GRUBER …
Following Jonathan Gruber’s apology yesterday for his mean and insulting Obamacare comments during the during the House Oversight Committee, Gruber was grilled, baked and fried by House members on both sides of the aisle. Gruber apologized for his glib comments and used the defense during the hearings that he was not a politician. Of course Jonathan Gruber never thought his comments were inappropriate until the video came out. Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) grilled Gruber and said the following, “The pervasiveness of your quotes is so much that it has to be more than that. It has to be more than an episodic mistake that you made… What did you mean when you said you wish that you had been able to be transparent, but you’d rather have the law than not?… Did you apologize because you said it or meant it?”
How comical is it that they are now trying to make MIT economist Jonathan Gruber look like Sgt. Schultz, I know nothing.
Below is Johnathan Gruber’s lame attempt at an apology for his plethera of “stupid” comments. Gruber apologized for making “uninformed and glib comments” about the political process behind health care reform and used the defense he was not a politician. HUH? Now one of the architects of Obamacare is claiming he is not an expert and is using the Sgt. Schultz defense … He knows nothing.
“I would like to begin by apologizing sincerely for the offending comments that I made,” Gruber said in prepared remarks before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
He said in some cases he made “glib comments” about the process, and said his tone implied he’s an expert on healthcare, “which is wrong.” Gruber acknowledged his “insulting and mean comments” were uncalled for.
“I sincerely apologize for conjecturing with a tone of expertise and for doing so in such a disparaging fashion,” he said. “It is never appropriate to try to make oneself seem more important or smarter by demeaning others. I knew better. I know better. I am embarrassed, and I am sorry.”
Ask and You Shall Receive … Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Said Back in 2013, “Unelect” Me If You Don’t Like ObamaCare
HEY MARY, DON’T ASK FOR THINGS, THEY MIGHT COME TRUE …
Back on 2013, Sen. Mary Landrieu said the following about Obamacare and how to deal with it if you don’t like it, “We did not wake up one morning and declare this the law.” Um, actually you did. Landrieu went on the say, “the people of the United States declared this through us as their representatives. Then came the money line that Mary Landrieu may want to take back, ”And if they don’t like this they can unelected us. Believe me they will have the chance because I am up for reelection right now.” OK, YOU’RE GONE!!!
The good people of Louisiana took her advice and threw her out of office in a big way. Mary Landrieu lost by 12% to Republican Bill Cassidy in yesterday’s special Senate runoff election. As The Gateway Pundit reminds us, other states did the same thing as 29 of the 58 Democrat/2 Independents Senators who voted for Obamacare in 2009 are no longer in office. Following the 2014 midterm elections the GOP now controls the US Senate, 54-46 after gaining a net 9 seats.
UPDATE I: Don’t feel alone former Sen. Landrieu, exactly half of the 60 senators who voted for Obama’s health-care overhaul on Christmas Eve 2009 will not be in the Senate in January.
Nineteen of them retired or resigned, eight were defeated for re-election, and three died in office. In her concession speech Saturday night, Landrieu said that she and others “fought a good fight, and it’s not over yet, for health care” and that she was “glad we fought for it.” She didn’t specifically mention Obamacare.
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Says Dems Screwed Up Passing Obamacare … “Democrats Blew the Opportunity the American People Gave Them” in 2008 and “Put All of Our Focus on the Wrong Problem”
ISN’T THIS INTERESTING, DEMOCRAT CHUCKY SCHUMER SAYS THAT DEMOCRATS SCREWED UP PASSING OBAMACARE …
Speaking Tuesday at the National Press Club in Washington, DC, New York Democrat Sen. Charles Schumer had an epiphany and stated that “Democrats blew the opportunity the American people gave them” after the 2008 election. Schumer went on to say that, “We took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem, health care reform.” Gee, ya think? Sen. Schumer was one of the 60 Democrat senators who passed Obamacare, with not one GOP vote, and forced the unpopular law down the throats of Americans. Now suddenly because as we predicted back then, it would be their undoing, Schumer has misgivings that Democrats focused on it first and did not focus on what Americans were dealing with on a day to day basis, a poor economy and unemployment. Schumer told those in attendance “that considering 85% of all Americans got their health care from either the government, Medicare, Medicaid, or their employer … we would still only be talking about only 5% of the electorate.” Wasn’t that the same argument that those opposed to Obamacare were making in 2009? Why blow up the healthcare system in the United States for only 5% of the people? This is a kin to demolishing a house because the back porch needs repair. Not only did Democrats not listen to the people, the law they forced upon them was nothing more than a lie.
Democrats made a strategic mistake by passing the Affordable Care Act, Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), the third-ranking member of the Senate Democratic leadership, said Tuesday.
Schumer says Democrats “blew the opportunity the American people gave them” in the 2008 elections, a Democratic landslide, by focusing on healthcare reform instead of legislation to boost the middle class.
But why is Sen. Schumer talking about the Democrats disastrous decision to pass Obamacare now, is it because they have buyer’s remorse and care about the American people? Not at all, it is because they have taken a political shellacking in 2010 and 2014 and now find themselves in the minority in the House and the Senate. It all has to do with power, not the people. Honestly, who in their right mind thought that an unpopular bill that adversely affected so many people to only benefit a few would not have ramifications? If Democrats could not see that, then they deserve what they got.
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): After passing the stimulus, Democrats should have continued to propose middle-class oriented programs and built on the partial success of the stimulus. But unfortunately, Democrats blew the opportunity the American people gave them. We took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem — health care reform. Now the plight of uninsured Americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance company practices certainly needed to be addressed, but it was not the change we were hired to make. Americans were crying out for the end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs, not changes in health care.
This makes sense, considering 85% of all Americans got their health care from either the government, Medicare, Medicaid, or their employer. And if health care costs were going up, it really did not affect them. The Affordable Care Act was aimed at the 36 million Americans who were not covered. It has been reported that only a third of the uninsured are even registered to vote. In 2010 only about 40% of those registered voting. So even if the uninsured kept with the rate, which they likely did not, we would still only be talking about only 5% of the electorate.
To aim a huge change in mandate at such a small percentage of the electorate made no political sense. So when Democrats focused on health care, the average middle-class person thought the Democrats are not paying enough attention to me. Again, our health care system was riddled with unfairness and inefficiency. It was a problem desperately in need of fixing. The changes that were made are and will continue to be positive changes, but we would have been better able to address it if Democrats had first proposed and passed bold programs aimed at a broader swath of the middle class.
Had we started more broadly, the middle class would have been more receptive to the idea that President Obama wanted to help them. The initial faith they placed in him would have been rewarded. They would have held a more pro-government view and would have given him the permission structure to build a more pro-government coalition. Then Democrats would have been in a better position to tackle our nation’s healthcare crisis.
Healthcare, it wasn’t at the top of the agenda for middle class people …
“We should have done it, we just should not have done it first”. People were hurting and said, what about me, I am losing my job. It’s not health care that is bothering me.”
EXIT QUESTION: So why is Sen. Charles Schumer making these comments about Obamacare? Maybe because Schumer does not want to be the next on the list of 29 Democrat Senators who are no longer in the US Senate who voted for Obamacare.
TV Anchor Melissa Francis Reveals That She Was Silenced When She Questioned the “Math of Obamacare” On the Air at CNBC
MEDIA BIAS: THE LIBERAL MEDIA CARRYING THE WATER FROM BARACK OBAMA …
Melissa Francis, the current anchor of ‘Money with Melissa Francis’ on the Fox Business Channel revealed Friday that she was silenced when she was an anchor at CNBC by execs when she dared question the math of Obamacare. She was told that she was disrespecting the office of the presidency by having the audacity of pointing out the obvious to her viewers, that the math of Obamacare simply didn’t work, in that you couldn’t add millions of people to the system and force insurance companies to cover their pre-existing conditions without raising the price on everyone else. Scolded by management for questioning the government? Really, isn’t that their job and a reason why we have a Freedom of the Press? This was a business show, how could any responsible individual not ask or point out such a simple premise? But not for the suits at CNBC, they might as well called her a racist as well. But when you are the liberal MSM, part of the Democrat/Obama media complex simply in place to be a propaganda vehicle, you must silence all opposition to liberal policy, especially when it is a lie.
Jonathon Gruber telling you that the architects of Obamacare think that you that you are stupid. And most importantly they are counting on your lack of economic understanding. They are not the only villains in this story. They are also depending on the liberal media to cover up the truth. So far NBC, ABC, the Los Angeles Times, the Associated Press, and others, have been only too happy to comply. Those outlets have not even mentioned the video evidence from Jonathan Gruber. It’s shocking, but it actually doesn’t surprise me because when I was at CNBC, I pointed out to my viewers that the math of Obamacare simply didn’t work. Not the politics by the way. But just the basic math. And when I did that, I was silenced.
“It’s shocking, but it actually doesn’t surprise me because when I was at CNBC, I pointed out to my viewers that the math of Obamacare simply didn’t work. Not the politics by the way. But just the basic math. And when I did that, I was silenced,” Francis said.
“I said on the air that you couldn’t add millions of people to the system and force insurance companies to cover their pre-existing conditions without raising the price on everyone else,” she continued. “I pointed out that it couldn’t possibly be true that if you like your plan, you can keep it. That was a lie. And in fact, millions of people had their plans canceled.”
After making the comments, Francis said she was called into a meeting by management and told he was “disrespecting the office of the president.”
I think we now know that Melissa Francis was 100% correct.
Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Brags About Lying to the American People … “Call It the Stupidity of the American People”
OBAMACARE FRAUD … FROM THE LIAR IN CHIEF:
Finally we get the creators of Obamacare to call it for what it really is, one big lie and fraud … “Call it the stupidity of the American voter”. For those with any common sense have known from the outset that Obamacare was a sham and a fraud. But for many Americans, as Nancy Pelosi stated in the past, “we have to pass the bill to find out what is in it”. NO WE DIDN’T. Obama, his minions and Democrats purposely wrote this law with a lack of transparency to the American people so that it would pass. Wasn’t this Obama presidency supposed to be the most transparent ever? Yeah America, and I have a bridge to sell you is Brooklyn too.
“You can’t do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that. In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”
Imagine that, it was a premeditated Obama lie when he said, “If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It”.
From Town Hall.com, brings up a few points …
- Notice how lying to the American people is completely justified by Obama administration standards so long as the ends justify the means. Gruber would “rather have this law than not,” and therefore purposely lying about what the law actually is in order to get it passed is completely acceptable. regardless of the negative effects it has on the lives of Americans.
- Lack of transparency might be a huge political advantage in the short term, but long term there are consequences from voters, which is exactly what we saw last week during the Democrat blood bath at every level of government across the country.
- Insulting Americans as stupid and deceiving them is a really good way to lose your power on Capitol Hill, which is again exactly what we saw last week in the 2014 midterms. Twenty-eight Senators who voted for Obamacare are now out of the Senate for one reason or another.
- Obamacare in its entirely was “sold” on lies. From the promise to keep your doctor to claims insurance rates would go down, not up — to hiding that the legislation was in fact a tax until of course it was necessary to argue it was a tax to save the legislation at the Supreme Court. Government bureaucrats promising an expansion of care knowing care under Obamacare would be limited, etc. Hell, even the official name for Obamacare, “The Affordable Care Act,” is a lie. Obamacare isn’t affordable.
- The process through which Obamacare was shoved through and down the throats of the American people happened as a result of Harry Reid changing Senate rules and without the support of voters. The legislation didn’t receive a single Republican vote in the House or the Senate. Also, remember this?
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See What Liberal Democrat Barney Frank Says About Obama Admin on Obamacare: “They Just Lied to People”
JUST HOW BAD IS OBAMACARE … EVEN UBER-LIBERAL DEMOCRAT BARNEY FRANK CALLS IT NOTHING BUT A PACK OF LIES … AND CALLED OBAMA A LIAR.
You know that Barack Obama’s signature piece of legislation is a disaster when even libs like former Rep. Barney Frank come out against the Obama administration and say, “they just lied to people.” Think about what Barney Frank just said. A liberal Democrat just admitted that Barack Obama knowingly lied to the American people. Does anyone really wonder why Obama has no more credibility? Frank stated in his HUFO interview that Obama should have better explained the situation to the American people, and laid out the possibilities of losing their existing plans. Sorry, trying to hold back the laughter. Had Obama done such a thing, he knew that the ACA would be more unpopular than it already was and he would lose reelection. That is why he lied.
President Barack Obama made a major political mistake by lying about the details of his health care plan, according to former House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.).
“The rollout was so bad, and I was appalled — I don’t understand how the president could have sat there and not been checking on that on a weekly basis,” Frank told HuffPost during a July interview. “But frankly, he should never have said as much as he did, that if you like your current health care plan, you can keep it. That wasn’t true. And you shouldn’t lie to people. And they just lied to people.”
Obama has taken significant flak in conservative circles for claiming that his health care overhaul would allow all existing health care plans to continue, when, in fact, new consumer protection standards would require some people to sign up for more comprehensive insurance. The law provides government subsidies to help people of modest means pay for the more robust plans. Frank is a strong supporter of the law, and he has repeatedly defended Obama and his legislative agenda.
“If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor PERIOD!
If you like your health care plan you will be able to keep your healthcare plan PERIOD!
No one will take it away, no matter what!”
This is the reason why Obamacare is as unpopular as ever and will become even more unpopular in the future. Everyone has not figured out they that they have been lied to.
Kaiser Family Foundation Poll: Obamacare is More Unpopular Than Ever … Now at 53% Unfavorable … (Update: Even Barney Frank Calls Obama Admin Lies)
OBAMACARE AS UNPOPULAR AS EVER …
According to the most recent Kaiser Family Foundation poll Barack Obama’s signature piece of legislation is more unpopular than ever. Fifty-three percent now view Obamacare unfavorably, an 8% increase since June 2014. As the Lonely Conservative opines, someone should tell Nancy Pelosi about this poll as when Democrats passed this horrible health care law and said we would then find out what was in it, they will like it. What is most comical about the WAPO article is their disbelief that Obamacare could become more negative after so-called manipulated data that there was a major drop in the nation’s uninsured rate. A note to the WAPO, maybe it is because individuals personal experiences are not the same as fabricated numbers.
Even after survey after survey has recently shown a major drop in the nation’s uninsured rate, Obamacare just had its worst month in a key health-care poll.
Kaiser Family Foundation, which has done arguably the best and most consistent polling on the health-care law in the past four-plus years, found that public opinion on the law sank to a record low in July. More people than ever (53 percent) last month said they viewed the law unfavorably, an increase of 8 percentage points since June — one of the biggest opinion swings ever.
As the foundation notes, more people seemingly made up their minds about the law last month. The rate of those without an opinion on the Affordable Care Act dropped from 16 percent in June to 11 percent in July.
The unfavorable opinion of Obamacare has not even come close to its apex. Many Americans have not experienced the train-wreck of Obamacare yet. This was purposely done by Obama and Democrats with targeted delays until after the 2014 midterm and 2016 elections so to lessen the wrath of “We the People” against Democrats. Once the ACA has its full impact on Americans, it will be over 60% unfavorable.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie Calls Obamacare a “Failure on a Whole Number of Levels” and Should be Repealed
Cristie is a little late to the party … Tell us something we have not known for years.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie while speaking to reporters at the National Governors Association on Saturday that Obamacare is a “failure on a whole number of levels” and that it should be repealed. Wow really, like we did not know that already and have known since it was initially passed. What, is this Christie trying to suck up to the GOP base? Sorry Krispy Kreme, but you are nothing more than a RINO and the slobber-fest between you and Obama back in 2012 cannot be undone. You may be ahead in New Hampshire 2016 GOP Presidential polls, but who else would be but a RINO.
Christie will never be able to live this picture down in a GOP primary
In what could be the latest move toward a 2016 presidential bid, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) offered a wide-ranging critique of President Obama’s domestic and foreign policies.
Speaking to reporters at the National Governors Association on Saturday, Christie labeled Obamacare, the administration’s signature legislation, a “failure on a whole number of levels” and said it should be repealed.
“But has to be repeal and replace with what. It can’t just be about repeal,” Christie told the audience. “What I’ve said before is, what Republicans need to be doing is putting forth alternatives for what should be a better healthcare system.”
If the Republicans want to lose another Presidential election, then nominate another RINO like Chris Christie or Jeb Bush.