Etan Patz Murder Suspect Pedro Hernandez Arraigned on Second Degree Murder Charge … Is He Guilty or Just Another Crazy John Marc Karr Type?

KILLER OR KRAZY?

33 years after 6 year old Etan Patz went missing in 1979, 51 year old Pedro Hernandez was arraigned and charged with second degree murder. Hernandez was arraigned Friday via a video link from a hospital ward on a charge of murder.  A judge ordered Hernandez held without bail and authorized a psychological examination to see if he is fit to stand trial.

Pedro Hernandez – confessed killer

Pedro Hernandez confessed to police that he strangled to death Etan Patz in 1979. Pedro Hernandez said he lured Etan Patz, who was walking to a school bus stop by himself for the first time, into the basement of a grocery store where Hernandez worked. Hernandez then said he strangling the child and then putting his body in a bag.

So do investigators have more than a murder confession from Pedro Hernandez? The man who confessed to the murder of Etan Patz has a history of being crazy. As reported at the NY Post, Hernandez had confessed years ago to the crime, but the police deemed him too crazy.Although, the police have denied that Hernandez ever confessed to killing Patz any time before Wednesday.

Etan Patz’s alleged killer tried to confess to cops years ago that he had murdered the long-missing 6-year-old — but he was dismissed as a nutjob and detectives never followed through, the suspect’s sister told The Post yesterday.

“Every time the anniversary of that little boy came up on TV, I would say, ‘Why doesn’t he turn himself in?’ ” recalled Lucy Suarez, 43, the youngest sister of Pedro Hernandez.

“And my sister said, ‘He did, but the police let him go because they said he was too crazy,’ ” Suarez said.

Sources yesterday also revealed that five days after Etan disappeared, cops saw Hernandez at the bodega, where one of the owners explained away his presence by noting he was merely his brother-in-law. There is no record that police ever interviewed Hernandez that day about Etan.

So the question remains, is Pedro Hernandez really guilty of murdering Etan Patz or is he just a crazy lunatic? Hernandez’ court-appointed lawyer, Harvey Fishbein, stated to the judge during the arraignment that his client is bipolar, schizophrenic and has a “history of hallucinations, both visual and auditory.” So did Pedro Hernandez really commit this crime or is he another John Marc Karr? For those who have forgot, John Marc Karr confessed to killing JonBenet Ramsey. The only thing that might have been more crazy than the media circus surrounding the confessed killer was John Marc Karr himself. In the end prosecutors never charged Karr with the murder because their was not a DNA match.

So does the prosecution have more evidence than is presently known? Has Hernandez confessed to things and provided details of the murder than have never been disclosed and only the killer would know? That remains to be seen. There are many challenges ahead to convict Pedro Hernandez.

Miller says that now prosecutors have to build their case with police to defend Hernandez’s confession, which the defense lawyer has already started attacking with claims of hallucinations and bipolar disease.

“I think that that is Defense 101,” Miller said. “You have a guy that gives a clear, compelling, detailed confession, you going to have to either say that he was tricked into doing it or that he was making it up, and I think they’re beginning to forge that path.”

Miller said that, despite the confession, prosecutors will need more.

UPDATE I: From the NY Times comes, the police have their man and a confession to a 33 year old crime, now they must prove that Pedro Hernandez did what he claimed he did. Ann Althouse asks the question that many have since the confession of Pedro Hernandez, “People want to believe that at long last, we have the answer and a man to punish, but do we really know?”

It should be a detective’s dream come true. The police have their man, their investigation sewn up with a tidy bow of his own damning words.

Far from it, for now the police must try to prove that he did what he said he did. And in the case of the suspect, Pedro Hernandez, and the boy, Etan Patz, that is not going to be easy. In many ways, this confession is a worst-case scenario of corroboration, starting with the body.

With no DNA evidence, no real crime scene and no body what are they to do?

Detectives have most likely returned to Mr. Hernandez’s story.

“You always go back for more detail, more detail, more detail,” Mr. Geberth said. “The confession is usually devoid of a lot of facts. They just want to get it out. Once it’s out, the barrier has been crossed.” The need to confess behind him, the suspect may relax. “Get him something to eat, something to drink. ‘By the way, did you speak to anybody? Did you go to work the next day, or take the day off?’ Important things.”

For more updates, to read other opinions and analysis and to provide your own, go to Scared Monkeys Missing Persons Forum: Etan Patz.

Geraldo Rivera Speaks Out On TSA … “I Got Manually Raped By A Guy,’ ‘[He] Was Getting Off On It.”

MORE TSA INCOMPETENCE … and their war on toddlers and Geraldo.

On Friday’s Fox News ‘Fox & Friends,’ Geraldo Rivera was supposed to comment on the story of an 8 month old little girl was removed from a Jet Blue plane because she was on the terror fly list. They claimed it was a computer glitch. NO SH*T SHERLOCK!!! However, instead  Geraldo recounted his own personal experience with the TSA, emphasis on personal. Geraldo said, “I got manually raped by a guy,” said Rivera. “This guy, it seemed to me, was getting off on it.”

Geraldo further discussed his efforts to get off of the no fly list and the egregious incompetence of the TSA. Geraldo went on to discuss his last experience with the TSA flying to Afghanistan and getting off the no fly list … YIKES!!!

Geraldo Rivera appeared on Fox & Friends on Friday where he described an intrusive inspection he had received from a Transportation Security Administration officer on a recent trip to Afghanistan. “I got manually raped by a guy,” said Rivera. “This guy, it seemed to me, was getting off on it.”

I finally – I guess, Gretchen – after enough kicking and screaming and embarrassing, embarrassment to the TSA of their utter incompetence in terms of managing this program – they talked about glitches in the computer program – at some point, they finally got it together. But it was quite a while. And, you know, there’s a lot of dysfunction in the TSA. I think there is a lot of merit in people who say it should be re-privatized. I don’t necessarily endorse that, but I tell you the last time I flew to Afghanistan I got manually raped by a guy who – the scanner wasn’t working…

 

 Geraldo Rivera transcript from The Blaze:

But Rivera‘s TSA woes weren’t over: “I tell you the last time I flew to Afghanistan I got manually raped by a guy who – the scanner wasn’t working.”

“He wanted to make sure…” host Steve Doocy offered.

“But making sure is one thing,” Rivera said. “This guy, it seemed to me, was getting off on it, I — ”

“Oh my gosh,” host Gretchen Carlson laughed.

“ — and the more and the tighter I got and the angrier I got,” said Rivera. “He just wanted to be a little more intimate.”

Four Neighbors of Adam Mayes Arrested in Connection With the Kidnapping of Alexandria Bain & Kyliyah Bain and Murder of Jo Ann Bain & daughter Adrienne Bain

More arrests …

There have been more arrests in the bizarre kidnapping and murder case that ended in suspect Adam Mayes killed himself  when authorities and SWAT closed in on his location in the Mississippi woods. Thankfully, Alexandria Bain and Kyliyah Bain were found safe and unharmed.

Four of Adam Mayes’ neighbors have been arrested in connection with the abduction and murder case of mother Jo Ann Bain and her daughters, Alexandria Bain, Kyliyah Bain and Adrienne Bain. Adam Mayes abducted Jo Ann Bain and her daughters April 27, 2012, the last time that they were reportedly seen.  It is hard to imagine that any one would have helped this sicko in his abduction and murderous acts before, during or after; however, obviously that was the case.

Tennesse Bureau of Investigation/Handout

Police did not say how the four additional people arrested – including a husband and wife and the adult son of the husband – were linked to the Mayes case. The couple were arrested for possessing a weapon and the son had been wanted previously by Mississippi authorities.

In what can be described as a bizarre attempt to remedy a relationship gone wrong when Mayes learned that the Bain’s were moving back to Arizona. According to court affidavits, Mayes intended to kidnap the two youngest daughters, Alexandria Bain and Kyliyah Bain, and kill the mother, Jo Ann Bain, and her oldest daughter Adrienne. Sadly, that is exactly how it happened.

As it turns out Adam Mayes had been investigated previously for sexual abuse.Previously Mayes was babysitting a 7 year old girl when the parents walked in the bathroom and found Mayes and the seven year old naked as he was shaving her legs. Um … ICK!!! More ICK … it was also reported that a stash of child pornography was found in his bedroom. Of course, nothing was done.

In the police report, obtained by NBC station WMC-TV of Memphis, Tenn., someone reported that Mayes was babysitting a 7-year-old girl when a family member walked in on them in the bathroom. The report said that Mayes and the young girl were naked and that he was shaving her legs.

The complainant also said Mayes had a stash of child pornography in his bedroom. A U.S. Postal Inspection Service investigation found no evidence that Mayes had received child pornography in the mail, and the allegation was ultimately declared unfounded, WMC reported.

Why would any one have allowed their little girls to be any where around this perv after such an incident?

Police Arrest 65 Year Old Mother Mary Frances Mayes & Ex-wife Teresa Ann Mayes of Kidnapping Suspect Adam Mayes

OK, this case just got really bizarre …

The 65 year old mother, Mary Frances Mayes, and the ex-wife, Teresa Ann Mayes, of kidnapping suspect Adam Mayes have been arrested for the charges of committing especially aggravated kidnapping. The missing persons case of 12 year old Alexandria Bain and 8 year Kyliyah Bain continues, however, since the Bain family originally went missing, 31 year old mother Jo Ann Bain and her oldest daughter, 14 year old  Adrienne Bain have been found dead in the back yard of kidnapping suspect Adam Mayes. Convictions on these charges carry possible sentences of 15 to 60 years in prison under Tennessee law. Bond has been set at $500,000 for Teresa Mayes, while Mary Frances Mayes’ bond was set at $300,000,

 Mary Frances Mayes

Teresa Ann Mayes

Police in Tennessee have arrested the ex-wife and mother of Adam Mayes, the man suspected of kidnapping Jo Ann Bain and her three daughters, state authorities said Tuesday.

The mother, 65-year-old Mary Frances Mayes, and the ex-wife, Teresa Ann Mayes, 30, were arrested Monday, according to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI). Teresa Mayes has been charged with four counts of especially aggravated kidnapping, while Mary Frances Mayes has been charged with four counts of conspiracy to commit especially aggravated kidnapping.

They appeared before a judge Tuesday morning and were being held in the Hardeman County Jail, Deputy court clerk Pat Kirk said.

According to an arrest warrant, Teresa Mayes admitted driving a vehicle containing Jo Ann Bain and her three daughters from Hardeman County to Union County, Mississippi. Bain and her oldest daughter, Adrienne, suffered “serious bodily injury as a result of their removal or confinement,” according to the warrant.

The man hunt continues for suspected kidnapper Adam Mayes in the abduction of 12-year old Alexandra Bain and 8 year old Kyliyah.

Dead Man’s Body Found at Churchill Downs’ Barn #8, One Day After I’ll Have Another Wins Kentucky Derby (Update: Death Investigated as Homicide)

One day after the running of the 138th Kentucky Derby, a man’s body has been found in one of the barns at Churchill Downs.  The body was found this morning around 5AM in barn number 8. The unidentified dead man’s body was found a few barns away from where Kentucky Derby winner I’ll Have Another is kept. Louisville Metro Police spokeswoman Alicia Smiley stated that it was too early to determine if the person died of natural causes and are awaiting a cause of death from the coroner.

Louisville police spokeswoman Alicia Smiley says authorities were called early Sunday morning to a barn on the backside of the track where the derby took place the night before.

Smiley says police are conducting a death investigation, and a coroner had been called to the scene. She says the body is believed to be a man.

The investigation is under way at barn eight, just four barns away from where I’ll Have Another is kept.

Bizarre, finding dead bodies the day after the Run for the Roses is becoming as common as woman wearing hats and mint Juleps. Last year following the Kentucky Derby,  24 year old Michael Baze, a Kentucky Derby jockey, was found dead in his vehicle at Churchill Downs.

UPDATE I: Death of unidentified Hispanic man ruled a homicide. Although there reportedly was no sign of a struggle, the death of the unidentified man is being investigated as a homicide, but there is no connection to the race track or the Kentucky Derby, police said. Hmm, I wonder how they know that so early in an investigation?

Foul play is suspected in the death of a man whose body was found in a barn behind Churchill Downs just hours after the Kentucky Derby was run at the track.

Police have ruled the death a homicide, Louisville Metro Police spokeswoman  Alicia Smiley said Sunday.

Daily Commentary – Friday, May 4, 2012 – Idaho Man Forced to Perform Moonwalk at Gunpoint

  • John Ernest Cross pointed a rifle at another man and ordered him to perform the popular dance

Daily Commentary – Friday, May 4, 2012 Download

Daily Commentary – Wednesday, May 2, 2012 – Former Miss USA Shanna Moeker’s Dogs Attacked by Hawk

  • Her 2 Chihuahua’s were attacked by a hawk, one is missing and the other injured

Daily Commentary – Wednesday, May 2, 2012 Download

Barack Obama, Lost in Smallness … President Makes Dog Eating Jokes the Main Course at the White House Correspondents’ dinner

Barack Obama … Lost in Smallness: Welcome to Obamanation … its a dog eat dog world, sorry, an Obama eat dog world.

What has this Presidency come to when we have a sitting President trying to tell jokes about eating dogs? Seriously! It might be one thing for comedian Jimmy Kimmel to make a Fido joke about President Obama,  saying that Obama’s favorite restaurant is the  Westminster Dog Show, but for Obama to make similar jokes is friggin bizarre. Next you will tell me Obama will be making fun of Special Olympic kids. Oh sorry, Obama has already done that.

Hat Tip Drudge … so much for the Dog owner voters

However, sadly that was the case during the … as Barack Obama made dog jokes the main course at the annual White House Correspondents’ dinner. Maybe the President would like to inform us all what is so funny about eating a dog? Dude, you did it, it is hardly funny. Actually it’s pretty disgusting.

President Barack Obama jokes about eating dogs.“What’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? A pit bull is delicious.”

BO … RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!

Daily Commentary – Monday, April 30, 2012 – And the Idiot of the Week Award Goes To…..

  • Jeremiah Hill for thinking it was funny to put a note in his colleagues travel case that read “1 – Hijack Plane, 2 – Kill Obama”

Daily Commentary – Monday, April 30, 2012 Download

Adam Croote, Former Poster Child for Missing & Victimized Kids Gets 25 Years to Life Sentence for Raping 10 Year Old Girl

The sad and tragic life of Adam Croote …

The once poster child for missing and victimized children has now become what he had been victimized by over the years. 23 year old Adam Croote was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison for the rape and choking of a 10 year old girl. Croote was entrusted with baby sitting the little girl. Instead he raped and left the girl for dead. If the crime was not bad enough, according the court papers the family knew in advance that Adam Croote was a registered sex offender.

However, Adam Croote was not just any registered sex offender, he was the once poster child for missing and victimized children. His story drew national attention and even landed him in the White House. Adam Croote just never had a chance, the adults ion his life saw to that as he wound up becoming exactly what he had been victimized by. The sad, sick and twisted life pf Adam Croote.

At the age of two, Adam’s father murdered his mother and left him alone with her body in Hinesville, GA. Michael Croote, Adam’s  father, is serving a life sentence for the crime in Georgia. Two years later, Adam Croote’s maternal grandparents kidnapped him during a custody fight. In 1992, during an unsupervised visit with then 3 year old Croote, the Ziburas abducted him, setting off a nationwide search that ended in 1995.  The case received so much attention as Adam’s face was on missing child fliers for three years until they were captured. In 1996 Adam Croote was photographed with President Bill Clinton as the then President signed an Executive Order in support of missing children. However, Adam’s life would take and even worse and sad turn. At the age of 17 in Wendell, MA, Adam sexually assaulted a woman who worked at a residential school for sexually abusive youths while she was driving him to school from a doctor’s appointment. Following the incident, Croote was convicted of forcible sexual contact and was labeled a Level 2 sex offender.

Croote has led a troubled life.  His father murdered his mother when he was two.  Two years after that, Adam’s grandparents kidnapped him.  The case received so much attention that Adam was photographed with Bill Clinton as the then President signed an Executive Order in support of missing children.  Later, Croote stood alongside former Attorney General Janet Reno as she lauded the same law.  In 2000, when Adam was a student at Bethlehem Middle School, he sexually assaulted a girl and five years later he sexually assaulted a woman in Massachusetts.

“This case was a tragedy for all concerned. It’s been additionally one more tragic even in Adam Croote’s life,” said Adam’s public defender, James Milstein.

Judge Herrick acknowledged what he called Adam’s “horrible childhood.”  But, ultimately the past didn’t matter and Adam Croote will be spending his future–25 years to life–in prison.

What a tragic story. A one time victimized child who had obviously been exposed to far to much pain and misery in his life becomes everything that he was supposed to be the poster child against.

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