RSSDutch Official Hero Brinkman Says Aruban Natalee Holloway Investigators ‘Corrupt as Hell’
How could Natalee Holloway or her family ever have received a proper, fair or just 
investigation in Aruba?
We all know that the Dutch countrymen, the Dutch know that there is a lot of corruption over there [Aruba], and they don’t want to do anything about it. (Hero Brinkman)
After missing for nearly 3–1/2 years suddenly they are all coming out of the woodwork calling the investigation into the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway corrupt. As a Dutch official Hero Brinkman, a member of the Dutch parliament said about the Aruban officials investigating the case in an interview with Greta Van Susteren and ‘On the Record’ … “They are corrupt as hell”
Natalee Holloway went missing in May 2005. The subsequent investigation or lack 
of any coherent and competent investigation within the first 10 days bordered on the absurd. The investigation and resulting behavior by the ALE only made individuals speculate that some thing was rotten in Denmark. In this case Aruba. There was no arrest of the last three known people to have ever been seen with Natalee Holloway leaving Carlos n’ Charlies. Instead two black security guards were arrested taken from the statements of the very people who were last seen with Natalee. Sound too incredible to be true? It certainly seemed to be at the time as well.
However, the investigation went on and on through the years with no follow up on evidence or a prosecution against any of the one time suspects. Instead, there was no action as Aruban officials just wanted to bury the entire disappearance of Natalee Holloway under the white sand of Aruba. Enter just recently Justice Minister Rudy Croes comments regarding Jan Van der Straten, corruption and nepotism.
It would appear that Hero Brinkman is of the same mind as Scared Monkeys when it 
comes to Justice Minister Rudy Croes’ latest comments regarding Van der Straten, corruption and the fact that the Justice Minister obstructed justice by knowing that there was corruption for 3 years and doing and saying nothing.
Just one example–Minister Croes says that he knows that the Van der Straaten, the police chief of Aruba, and Paul van der Sloot, the father of Joran, were very, very good friends. And those two investigated the matter in the early days of the case, and they did this in a very slow manner.
If Croes does say this, and this is true, then he already knew that for more than three years. This is truly a disgrace. Why didn’t he tell that before? That’s why I think it’s fully corruption. (Hero Brinkman)
Now we hear more regarding Aruban corruption from Dutch Parliament official, Hero Brinkman. When asked a question regarding his fellow countryman Aruban prosecutor Hans Mos, Brinkman’s comment was rather interesting. When it comes to corruption in Aruba, when in Aruba, do as the Arubans.
VAN SUSTEREN: Sir, let me just start first with the big question. What do you think, as a Dutch member of parliament, about Aruba?
BRINKMAN: They are corrupt as hell.
VAN SUSTEREN: So…
BRINKMAN: That’s what I say about Aruba.
VAN SUSTEREN: What will you do about it, or is there anything you can do about it?
BRINKMAN: I want a full investigation about what happened with Ms. Holloway over there. It is really a disgrace that the minister of justice, Mr. Croes, told everybody, Mr. van der Straaten and the police chief are very good friends, and the investigation over there with the first ten days of the investigation went wrong because of the friendship. So I am very disappointed about that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Sir, prior to becoming a member of the Dutch parliament you had a long history as being a police officer. When you say that Aruba is, quote, “corrupt as hell,” those are your words, what is it that tells you that? Why do you say they’re corrupt as hell?
BRINKMAN: Because there is a lot of corruption which is going on. It is also investigated over there. Politicians and police officers have been conflicted, but they still are doing their jobs. So that is very strange.
We all know that the Dutch countrymen, the Dutch know that there is a lot of corruption over there, and they don’t want to do anything about it.
Hero Brinkman was asked directly with his allegations of corruption in Aruba about Dutch prosecutor Hans Mos. Brinkman, not at a loss for any words basically called Mos corrupt as he had been in the Aruban system too long and influenced by his environment.
VAN SUSTEREN: What do you make of the fact that the prosecutor, though, is not from Aruba. The prosecutor is a Dutch person.
BRINKMAN: He is a Dutch person, but he is very long within the Aruban society. And what Aruban politicians do, they drag you within their corrupt society. That’s what they do.
And even if there are Dutch politicians, competent guys, it does not matter. If they are there long to stay, they will be dragged into that corrupt system.
VAN SUSTEREN: What did the police have to gain by not investigating this case? We have brought information to them-actually, we haven’t brought it to them. We have information and we can’t seem to get them to look at it. But what is in for the police not to look at what we have?
BRINKMAN: I don’t know. And that’s what I want to investigate, and that is why I asked the minister here in Holland to investigate that from out of the Dutch government.
But I think that because the police chief of Aruba may have some involvement in this case. And if that is true, then of course the political persons who are responsible for this do not want to investigate that, because otherwise they get chopped off their head.
Posted December 9, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Bizarre, Corruption, Crime, Government, Natalee Holloway, Scandal, WTF | 113 comments |
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Say what? Aruba corrupt? Wow, that is breaking news!
Brinkman’s bottom line
tells us all we need to know.
Aruba won’t investigate itself and its Dutch owners aren’t going to do anything either.
Shocker!
No! Can’t be
Who had the authority to pull Van der Straaten from the case, after Joran, Paulus, Deepak and Satish held their “meeting by the pool”, destroyed all teh evidence, stole Natalee’s murdered body from her family, and continued to engage in the most depraved acts of corruption and obstruction of justice that make Satan look alive and well, and gambling in the casinos in Aruba?
WHO had the authority to PULL STRATEN OFF THE CASE, INSERT DOMPIG, THEN – PULL DOMPIG, AFTER JORAN CONFESSED AND RE-INSERT STRAATEN?
WHO had the authority to DEMAND STATEMENTS IMMEDIATELY of the LAST PREDATORS SEEN TAKING A DEFENSELESS CHILD AWAY?
WHO had the authority to SEND IN DUTCH INVESTIGATORS WHO THEN DID NOTHING?
WHO HAD THE ABILITY TO CHANGE BLOOD INTO CHOCOLATE?
TO TURN HUMAN BONES INTO DONKEY BONES?
TO TAMPER WITH STATEMENTS?
TO LITERALLY “CHANGE” TIME?
TO LITERALLY COORDINATE A CONSPIRACY TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE?
TO MANIPULATE POLICE STATIONS, AND CREATE DIVERSIONS, TO DISTRACT FROM ACTS OF CONTEMPT FOR JUSTICE, WHILE TORMENTING A MOTHER COLLAPSING TO THE GROUND WHO WAS SENT TO DRUG HOUSES TO FIND HER BABY, A FATHER DIGGING IN A GARBAGE PIT FOR HIS CHILD?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO SEND IN SAVAGES TO “MONITOR” A GRIEVING, TERRIFIED AND TORMENTED FAMILY’S ACTIONS, SO THAT THE FAMILY’S ABILITY TO FIND THEIR BABY – WOULD ALWAYS BE THWARTED BY MORE ACTS OF OBSTRUCTION AND CORRUPTION?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO IGNORE THE THREATS MADE ON BETH HOLLOWAY’S LIFE?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO ABUSE POWER INVESTED BY THE ARUBAN PEOPLE, TO MANIPULATE MEETINGS WITH U.S. SECRETARY RICE, LYING TO HER, MISLEADING HER, TELLING HER THAT “GREAT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE” – ON THE VERY DAY, THAT MICKEY JOHN AND ABRAHAM JONES WERE FALSELY ACCUSED, AND FRAMED?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO TELL THE MEDIA A LIE: THAT THE FBI WAS WORKING “CLOSELY” WITH ARUBAN POLICE, WHILE THEN OBSTRUCTING THE FBI FROM WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE ARUBAN POLICE?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO PREVENT DEEPAK’S CAR FROM BEING SEIZED ON MAY 31, 2005 AT 3 AM IN THE MORNING, AND THE SLOOT HOUSE FROM BEING SEARCHED?
WHO HAD THE POWER TO RE-INSERT VAN DER STRAATEN INTO THE “OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE – NON- INVESTIGATION”, FOLLOWING JORAN’S CONFESSION TO MURDER AND BURYING NATALEE’S BODY, ONLY FOR VAN DER STRAATEN, TO MANIPULATE, OBSTRUCT, AND TAMPER WITH THE CONFESSION? WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO COORDINATE THESE ACTS OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE?
WHO HANDLED THE PHOTOS FROM THE CAMERAS?
WHO HANDLED THE HUMAN BONES THAT WASHED UP ON THE BEACH?
WHO HANDLED THE BLOOD THAT BECAME CHOCOLATE?
WHO DIRECTED THE SEARCH – ON JUNE 4 TO BE FOCUSED TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ISLAND, AWAY FROM WHERE NATALEE WAS LAST SEEN?
WHO HANDLED THE BLOOD THAT WAS IN THE CAR?
WHO MANIPULATED THE “DROP OFF TIMES” AND THE SECURITY TAPES?
WHO MANIPULATED WHAT WAS TOLD TO THE AMERICAN PRESS AND THE FBI?
WHO STOPPED THE FBI FROM BECOMING INVOLVED, KNOWING THEY COULD DO NOTHING, UNLESS INVITED?
WHO STOPPED THE FBI FROM HELPING BETH SEARCH THE SLOOT HOLE, ON MAY 31, 2005 AT 3 AM IN THE MORNING?
WHY COULD THE FBI NOT GO INSIDE?
WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE FOUND?
SURELY SOMEONE KNEW – AND THAT SOMEONE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO CRUSH THIS CHILD’S TRUTH, TO ANNIHILATE HER VOICE. WHO HAD THAT POWER?
WHO MANIPULATED THE TIME AND DATE OF THE “NO CORPSE, NO CASE” STATEMENT MADE BY PAULUS SLOOT?
WHO CORRUPTED AND OBSTRUCTED ANY INVESTIGATION INTO VAN DER SLOOT’S CONTEMPT FOR THE LAW MEETING, HELD ON HIS PROPERTY BY HIS POOL, WHERE HE PLOTTED, CONSPIRED, AND COLLABORATED WITH CRIMINALS TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE AND COMMITT HEINOUS ACTS AGAINST A LITTLE GIRL, HER FAMILY, AND THE ENTIRE JUDICIAL SYSTEM OF ARUBA?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO IGNORE THE CASINO TAPES?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO IGNORE THE SURVEILLANCE TAPES?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO MANIPULATE COMMUNICATIONS RECORDS?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO TAMPER WITH EVIDENCE, TO DESTROY EVIDENCE, TO MANIPULATE EVIDENCE, AND TO MAKE A MOCKERY OF THE NOTION OF “ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW”?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO IGNORE MICKEY JOHN AND ABRAHAM JONES STATEMENTS, JORAN’S STATEMENTS, DEEPAK’S STATEMENTS, WHILE JONES AND JOHN WERE CAGED IN JAIL FOR CRIMINAL ACTS THEY WERE FRAMED BY CORRUPT POLICE AS HAVING ENGAGED IN?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO TURN MURDER – WHEN IT CONCERNED 2 INNOCENT BLACK SECURITY GUARDS, INTO “NO CHARGES” AND “SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED” – WHEN IT CONCERNED THREE +++ CONTEMPTABLE CRIMINALS WHO CONSPIRED WITH OTHERS TO RAVAGE A DEFENSELESS CHILD AND TORTURE HER FAMILY?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO OBSTRUCT THE SEARCH OF THE VAN DER SLOOTS, CONSPIRE WITH THE VAN DER SLOOTS TO HAVE PERSONS ON PROPERTY AT THE ARRIVAL OF THE “POLICE” TO OBFUSCATE ANY SEARCH OF THE PROPERTY, TO AIDE THE SLOOTS IN THE PRE-MEDITATED PLAN: “NO CORPSE, NO CASE”?
WHO HAD AUTHORITY TO NOT DEMAND A PROTOCOL FOR SEIZURE OF STATEMENTS, HANDLING OF EVIDENCE, AND WITNESSES?
WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE PLAN – ” NO CORPSE, NO CASE” WOULD BE A SUCCESS?
IF THE DUTCH COULD SEND POLICE FROM THE NETHERLANDS TO ARUBA IN JUNE TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, WHAT IS STOPPING THEM FROM SENDING REAL POLICE TO DO JUSTICE?
You either are on TEAM JUSTICE, or you are not.
Yes, Mr. Brinkman is a TRUE HERO.
WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE HEROS IN HOLLAND?
Are there only one or two?
Are the rest of the Dutch savages like the criminals in Aruba who have nothing but contempt for the law, and a depraved disregard for an American child who trusted that Aruba was “safe” and was BRUTALLY TORTURED by savages, who now are rewarded with freedom, while her precious life is desecrated, and her family sentenced to ENDLESS TORMENT?
WHERE ARE THE OTHER DUTCH HEROES?
Give me a break. After three years they are just figuring this out. BS! They are up to something. I can see it now. Ahhh…yes…we just realized the Aruban authorities are corrupt. All evidence has been destroyed. Therefore, there is nothing we can do. We are very sorry to the family. Case closed.
I say F.O. No justice for Natalee. No tourism for Aurba. We are going to continue to bring you down.
I posted this one in the at the other topic but it’s even more at its place here so…
A translation (Google and me; very fast…) of a weekly ‘correspondence’ between rightwing parliamentarian Hero Brinkman and leftwing parliamentarian Harry van Bommel, on the newsblog ‘Spitsnieuws’.
http://tinyurl.com/56snpw
Hullabaloo from The Hague
Dear Harry,
…
In the new year we go straight to the Antilles. Curacao and Aruba. Have you heard the remark from the Minister Croes of Aruba last week? He told the chief of police of Aruba, Jan van der Straten and Paul van der Sloot were very good friends and that therefore the police investigation into the Holloway case, in the initial phase was seriously hampered to help his friend. If this is true Harry, it’s terrible? I believe that I am not exaggerating when three quarters of the Netherlands in addition to Joran they think his father also knows more. If the remark of that Croes is still right then we can assess how that on the evening of the murder went. For all clarity, there is a photo of Natalee Holloway with Joran van der Sloot and his father in a casino on the evening of the murder. If the remark is true of Croes than I almost know for sure who Joran that night called for help to get rid of the corpse of Natalee.
After I last week in ‘De Wereld Draait Door’ had prompted for attention, my mailbox ran full of e-mails back from America. These people are right, we should as The Netherlands shame our eyes out of our heads. If this allegation of Croes is true we must finally get to the bottom of this. And that Minister Croes as far as I’m concerned can be shoepolisher on the square in Oranjestad. Apparently he already knew this is for over 3 years. What a banana republic!
Dear Hero,
When I heard that remark of Croes, I fell from my chair. This will have to be investigated to the bottom. If it is true, the administrative-rot has come as far as the top of police and justice. It shows that the problems of the Antilles are larger than they themselves can solve. Curacao wants debt relief and autonomy. There can be no question of that at all. First they have to get things in order; administrative, financial, but also justice.
Yes… And who is Hero Brinkman that makes him an expert?
If the Ku Klux Klan had an official political party (I am not talking about the Republicans here… no really!) then Hero Brinkman would be part of it. Well, he is part of PVV, which is roughly the same with different costumes.
(I am not saying he could be right… but this dude is not the authority in it… for sure FoxNews could have found a better spokesperson with even the same news).
This smells to me like, everyone is trying to alienate themselves from Aruba and the other Dutch, because something Joran said or said to someone else is going to blow this wide open. I think this is all posturing. The Dutch want to come out clean on this and act as though Aruba acted on its own. Sooo Karin, where is the evdence that you CAREFULLY transported to Holland? Julia, Hey Julia, how do you sleep at nite?
Pearl, how about this one?
WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CUT OFF ALL FUNDING IN ARUBA UNTIL ALL ISSUES REGARDING THIS CASE HAVE BEEN PUBLICLY DEALT WITH?
It comes down to this – Aruba is sucking off of the Netherlands Nipple. The Netherlands can easily withhold providing any additional financial assistance until:
1) There is a full public disclosure of the conflicts of interest involved with this case, as well as the consequences of those conflicts of interests and how they affected the case.
2) There is full public and private disclosure to the family outlining how the Arubans knew there was 1) heavy battery of Natalee, and 2) premeditated murder of Natalee.
Its time to ‘fess up Aruba. It is time for the Netherlands to withhold all monies used to prop up this crooked government until they clean house and fix what they have done.
BTW, we too, have corruption, but,it is a joyous day here in Ill, they finally got our corrupt Governor. Sometimes I wonder if anyone is on the side of the people, and today, yes, our Feds did something right. I am elated.
As always, EURobert, thanks for giving us this info.
Concerning the comments by Hero Brinkman, it is still unclear … to me, anyway … whether he actually will proceed with plans to hold Aruba accountable for its corruption, or whether he will be content with grabbing headlines.
Let’s do what we can to induce him to keep going.
At least as far as it goes, ‘Hero’ is a hero indeed: nobody else in the Dutch government seems to care about the hellhole in Aruba.
Nor, to be fair, does anyone else in the U.S. government. We Americans have a duty to keep hammering away at our own government and demand that it have a decent respect for the safety of our own citizens.
After all, isn’t that why our government exists?
pearl #……you are exactly right…WHO? who is the one top dog who coulda, woulda, shoulda BUT didn’t? i’ll wait and see if this brinkman is for real. i’m not going to get too excited until i see someone from the Nederlands make a positive move to do something…..3 1/2 years later. i’ve tried to be hopeful over the years but so many opportunities have presented themselves for the dutch/aruban officials to do something and they have ignored them. therefore, i’m sleptical. it’s gone on for way too long and things have now become complicated for them. too much finger pointing. it may amount to nothing. like all of jorans “confessions”.
# Paul Breiveld on December 9th, 2008 9:36 am
It’s so easy to smear people and their political parties by comparing them to f.e. the KKK. I’m not a PVV voter but compare them to the KKK???
The PVV is as far right from the political middle in the NL’s as the Socialist Party is left of the middle. (That’s why SpitsNieuws put them together in this blog-correspondence.) They are not racist, nationalistic nor fascist. Their big issue is the influx of islam-immigrants and the growing influence of Islam in the West. I think that’s a legitimate topic and within the boundries of decency.
(Did you see – apostate – Jami’s new movie btw? http://blip.tv/file/1555936 Came out today!)
My guess is your political preference is somewhere half between the Socialist Party and the middle or even more to the left?
This whole senerio is starting to sound like a Three Stooges movie. Theses guys are just falling apart in aruba.
Wonder where liar JVD is hiding today. Hope this is making him nervous
What were the user names who posted here who were Natalee and her family,haters need to rub their face in it.
If Brinkman and Bommel are really going to try to get to the bottom of this , I would imagine Jan and Paula$$ are sweating up a storm. I’ll bet their shirts are soaked!
richard
I have a question do you think that pauulus and his cronies are getting nervous over all this publicity again!! I wonder if what joran spoke to greta on live tv has made them flinch and in light of this back in the media there has to be some degree of discomfort ?? can you email me your comment as I hardly am able to come here to post … these days have been hectic for me
scaredmonkeys’s has my permission to give richard my email adress and again thanks I value your opinion your a very wise man
YES, ARUBATRAVELADVISORY!!!
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arubatraveladvisory on December 9th, 2008 9:55 am
Pearl, how about this one?
WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CUT OFF ALL FUNDING IN ARUBA UNTIL ALL ISSUES REGARDING THIS CASE HAVE BEEN PUBLICLY DEALT WITH?
It comes down to this – Aruba is sucking off of the Netherlands Nipple. The Netherlands can easily withhold providing any additional financial assistance until:
1) There is a full public disclosure of the conflicts of interest involved with this case, as well as the consequences of those conflicts of interests and how they affected the case.
2) There is full public and private disclosure to the family outlining how the Arubans knew there was 1) heavy battery of Natalee, and 2) premeditated murder of Natalee.
Its time to ‘fess up Aruba. It is time for the Netherlands to withhold all monies used to prop up this crooked government until they clean house and fix what they have done.
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TO ALL THE WOULD-BE HEROES IN HOLLAND:
TIME TO CUT THE STRINGS TO ARUBA, OR BE EXPOSED AS CO-CONSPIRATORS IN WHAT CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED AS OBSCENE SAVAGERY INFLICTED UPON A HELPLESS, DEFENSELESS CHILD, WHILE AIDING MURDERERS AND RAPISTS IN COLLUSION WITH DEPRAVED ARUBAN POLICE OFFICIALS – AND OTHERS, WITH THE MOST DISGUSTING DISPLAY OF DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE TO HUMAN LIFE, AND ON-GOING TRAUMATIZING OF A VICTIM’S FAMILY.
TO HOLLAND AND ALL THE WOULD-BE HEROES: END THIS SAVAGERY – NOW, OR BE HELD IN CONTEMPT FOR THE ROLE YOU PLAYED IN SUPPORTING IT.
Consider e-mailing more Dutch Members of Parliament.
as of now Hero Brinkman is in the minority.
When there is consensus in the Dutch Parliament that they want the Dutch Government to enforce article 43 of the Kingdom Charter (about good governance, rule of law), only then the Dutch Justice Minister Hirsch Ballin will do something.
The statements by Aruban Justice Minister Rudy Croes are a major embarrassement for the Dutch Government.
Rudy Croes:
““Why was a beach-bum accused at that time, who has been a choller before? He had supposedly done it, while internally it was known that he hadn’t done it. Very special is also the fact that the Dutch language was used during Joran’s interrogation, while he is fluent in Papiamento, same as our detective. Our people could have done their work much better if the conversations were done in their own language. Why was he so privileged? Simply because it were ‘Dutch-friends’; all three of them: Joran, Paul, and Jan. Don’t forget that a Dutch minister had asked me at that time not to mention that Joran is a European Dutch citizen. I won’t say who this person is, but if by any chance I have to mention his name, I definitely will. We felt abandoned by the Netherlands when Aruba was so devastated by the case. I have told this to the Dutch premier Balkenende, state secretary Bijleveld (Kingdom Relations), and minister Hirsch-Ballin (Justice). But until now, everybody has remained quit and has let the world besmear Aruba’s name. They abandoned us and let us suffer.”
http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_50147.php
The coming week is crucial with debates in the Dutch Parliament about Aruba/Antilles on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday – leading op to the Round Table Conference between the Prime-Ministers of The Netherlands, Aruba and The Antilles in Curaçao on December 15th.
List of members of Parliament of the Aruban/Antilles Affairs Committee:
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/index.jsp#0
Names on top of the list are the highest ranking members.
(e-mail address will appear if you click on a name and “Naar persoonlijke pagina”).
Thanks.
Very good post caesu; VERY GOOD LIST!!!
The least they can do is influence the decision to send in the Rijksrecherche.
(I tried to look at this page with ‘Google Translation’ but then the email adresses of all the members are translated as well so don’t do that.)
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/index.jsp#0
16. benh, I was wondering the same. What about the owners of blogspots who defamed Natalee, Beth and Jug. I hope Natalee’s family lawyers up and sues them all. Remember what Julia said?
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) – Amsterdam unveiled plans Saturday to close brothels, sex shops and marijuana cafes in its ancient city center as part of a major effort to drive organized crime out of the tourist haven.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081206/D94T8T200.html
To: #8 Paul Breiveld
who is Hero Brinkman that makes him an expert?
Hero Brinkman is a Dutch politician and one of the members of the PVV. His former jobs include that of riot control policeman.
Truth hurts?
Colombo:
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) – Amsterdam unveiled plans Saturday to close brothels, sex shops and marijuana cafes in its ancient city center as part of a major effort to drive organized crime out of the tourist haven.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081206/D94T8T200.html
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I wonder if this means that Joran may be developing some major problems in the near future with his EASY ACCESS TO THE PAPERWORK NECESSARY to HUMAN TRAFFICK INNOCENT WOMEN INTO SEX SLAVERY IN HOLLAND?
Hey, Scam the man, as a very wise person said: NO CORPSE, NO OVERDOSE.
But we DO HAVE JORAN’s CONFIRMED CONFESSION TO MURDER AND BURYING NATALEE, which the ministers of injustice then attempted to reel in.
Except, it was already out there.
THE CONFESSION TO MURDERING NATALEE HOLLOWAY, WHICH SOME OUTLETS REFUSED TO RETRACT.
Do you know why, Scam the man?
Because it had been CONFIRMED.
Dompig needed slithering room, so he floated his despicable “she must have had a seizure”.
You know scam… the SAME SEIZURE THAT SLEEZE BUCKET VAN DER STRAATEN WAS ASKING BETH ABOUT ON JUNE 2, 2005.
ARUBA: CORRUPT AS HELL.
You have to really sit and wonder: WHAT was so very devastating AT THE VAN DER SLOOT HOUSE, that made the Dutch take over a YEAR to finally SEARCH there?
WHAT needed to be hidden the MOST from public view, that required extensive conspiracy efforts between the prosecutor, minister of injustice and chief of police,and aruban government officials – in order to PREVENT ANY SEARCH OF THE VAN DER SLOOT RESIDENCE?
AND WHY DID THE LIGHTS GO OUT ON A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE ISLAND ON JUNE 7th… right before the predators were ARRESTED?
WHO ORDERED THE RADAR SHUT DOWN?
WAS IT THE SAME PERSON WHO ORDERED THE BOATS IN, OFF THE WATER, TWO DAYS AFTER THE FBI DIVERS SHOWED UP?
WHO WAS IT THAT HAD ACCESS TO THE GOVERNMENT OWNED ELECTRICAL COMPANY IN ARUBA?
DID SOMEONE ORDER THE “LIGHTS TURNED OFF”, IN ADDITION TO THE “RADAR” BEING SHUT DOWN?
22 miss-U and 16 benh……..i do know of one on greta’s blog who continually from day one has slammed beth and natalee and the whole case with her/his evil, cruel and hateful remarks….CheriMc.
yes, yes, we have freedom of speech in this great country of ours but as humans we are supposed to have compassion and sympathy for our fellow humans who are suffering. supposed to.
EURobert, here’s a question:
If (German, not Dutch) von Beethoven, as in Ludwig von Beethoven, means “from the beet garden”…
and van der Sloot, as in you know who, means “from the ditch,” as I’ve read that it does …
what would be the literal meaning of van der Straaten?
MissKatie … Damned if I know.
#23 columbo
They are shutting down in Amsterdam and shipping them off to Aruba since there is not sufficient crime yet. Sarcasm only…..
We want justice for Natalee!!!
Maybe a case for the European Courts, The Hague!!!
Just to get the ball rolling, today I sent this e-mail to Hero Brinkman, with copies to Aruba Tourism Authority in Aruba and the Netherlands.
He’ll probably bust a gut laughing over it, if he sees it at all, but at least I hope he appreciates the allusions to Dutch history.
Anyone who doesn’t know Beethoven’s “Egmont Overture” can find it on YouTube. I recommend the performances conducted by Herbert von Karajan, and by Sir Georg Solti.
The e-mail follows:
I am an American who since May 2005 has followed the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent Aruban cover-up. One can expect nothing more of Aruba than lies, distortions, and evasions; but I am filled with disgust at my own government’s refusal to take what measures it could and at the apparent willingness of the Dutch to avert their eyes.
In 1843 came the world premiere of Richard Wagner’s opera “The Flying Dutchman,” about a figure doomed to sail about the world until Judgment Day. Were Wagner alive today, he would perhaps compose a similar work, “The Lying Dutchman,” dedicated to one Joran van der Sloot.
Or perhaps Wagner’s new title would be in the plural. After all, the liars on Aruba are many, and range from members of Joran’s family up to elements of Aruba’s government and law enforcement.
Now you have drawn attention to the statements of an Aruban figure who says that he has known for years about the cover-up, but chose to remain silent. I applaud your efforts to induce the Dutch Parliament to take action against the corruption that is seen to prevail on Aruba and elsewhere in the Netherlands Antilles.
If I may again invoke Dutch history, allow me to refer to Lamoral, the Count of Egmont, who sought to limit the power of the Inquisition in the 16th century, when the Netherlands was under Spanish control. For his efforts, he was imprisoned and hanged for treason; yet his stoic endurance helped stimulate William of Orange to lead the fight against tyranny that ultimately resulted in Dutch independence.
His efforts also, of course, induced the creation of Beethoven’s “Egmont Overture,” composed, according to one source, in admiration of “the sacrifice of a man condemned to death by having taken a strong stand against oppression.” Indeed, in Goethe’s play, Egmont was portrayed as a martyr for freedom of thought.
In the Netherlands these days, for the most part, martyrdom for those who resist oppression is not a common fate. Whether that can be said of Aruba is a different issue.
But it is perhaps not an overstatement to draw a comparison here to the oppression of the Aruban cover-up, in which the government has since day one thwarted the desire of an American family to know their daughter’s fate. All people of good will must hope that you will remain dedicated to seeking the truth and demanding justice; if you persist in doing so, your glory will not be posthumous.
For some time, I have urged Americans to boycott Aruba, in the belief that this is the strongest tool we have. I continue to work with others to promote this goal; our motto is, “No justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba.” We will continue in this conviction.
Your ability to influence events, however, outweighs ours. I stand ready to help in any way that I can, and hope that your willingness to raise your voice on Natalee’s behalf will remain undiminished. I, for my part, shall do what I can to persuade our incoming government that its primary obligation is to defend the well-being of the American people. In the case of Aruba, the best tool we have is to avoid it. Thank you for your attention.
#28. Richard…
Van der Straaten may be translated to mean:
“Of the street”, or “Of the streets”
EuRobert, confirm?
Thanks,
Kitty
p.s. Richard, do hope you recieve a reply to your eloquently written letter.
Richard,
First: I looked for ‘Beet’ in my German dictionary and that says: ‘Flowerbed’. (The English word ‘beet’ translated in German is ‘Bete’.) The word ‘hoven’ means ‘courtyards’ or ‘courts’.
The word ‘straat’ in Dutch means ‘street’. And ‘stra(a)ten’ is ‘streets’.
So Van der Straaten means ‘Of the Streets’. But I think this name points to a more specific place or location. But to find that out you would have to take a dive into history.
Al these ‘Van …’ or ‘Van der …’ or ‘Van den …’ -names are historical names originally from Dutch nobility; most of the time these names are related to objects or places in the landscape, castles, mansions, settlements, towns or cities.
But after the middle-ages when the bourgeouisie got richer and richer and nobility lost some of their welth and influence, the bourgeouisie wanted the ‘titles’ and the names of the nobility to get more status. So they more and more married into the nobility who in turn were eager for the welth of the bourgeoisie. But this way these names got more and more common and actually ‘devaluated’.
So now there are A LOT of people with a ‘Van … / Van de … / Van der … / Van den …’ (etc.) -name.
#28 Richard.
‘Van Der Straten’ means ‘From the Streets”
and it’s good that you are sendig e-mails.
also consider sending other Dutch politicians e-mail.
Brinkman is already aware of the corruption.
but others aren’t as aware as he is.
check my comment at #20
Dear,
Justice-minister Rudy Croes I have been waiting for justice in Aruba for years. Shave the beard, get off your ass, and demand a new investigation, and a new prosecutor for the Natalee Holloway case.
You have the power to start a new investigation and bring justice to Aruba and the Holloway family!
Sincerely,
Greg Barr
Richard,
One correction on the Beethoven-thing: I wrote that ‘Hoven’ means ‘courtyards’ or ‘courts’ (both plural). But because the German language uses ‘genitives’ [I don't know if you're familiar with this] I think ‘-hoven’ in the name Beethoven could be singular as well. i’m not sure…
Well said, Hero Brinkman! I do like this man’s attitude, but will he really do something to see that JUSTICE is finally served for NATALEE and her family??
But of course, we’ve known all along that the Aruban/Dutch officials (better known as parasites aka the “Keystone Koppers”) are “corrupt as hell”, so nothing new there…
Damn that Dutch protectorate for all of the pain and suffering it has caused to Natalee and her family!! Damn them all!!
That poverty stricken, drug infested, lawless third world isle of Aruba has given itself a black eye that will never heal (unless they bring an end to the madness) and has no one to blame but itself.
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
i believe anyone that takes their kids or lets their kids go to Aruba! Should at the very least be charged with child endangerment!The boycott rolls on!
I don’t buy for one minute that the Holland politicians do not know exactly what is happening here, and has happened for years, the misinformation, the lies, the smoke and mirrors. In my mind, there will be some posturing, maybe Van der Straaten will be a scapegoat, but that just doesn’t get it. The cover up is over. Too many people know too much now, the house of cards is collapsing and IT’S NOT GOING AWAY. Since Aruba won’t do anything, it’s time for Holland to step up to the plate and show the world they have the decency and ethics to do what’s right by this family in America.
Thanks EURobert, Kitty, and Caesu for following up on my question. I got “Von Beethoven = from the beet garden” from a guide to classical music; my own German isn’t adequate to the task at all.
Caesu, I looked at the list that you provided and that EURobert extolled, but I wasn’t sure who was who. I imagine that the Hero Brinkman controversy is getting attention in the Netherlands, so at least his stance should be known to all.
#37….LOL….. Great letter !
-J4N
BOYCOTT ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT
I’m with those that believe the Dutch are merely making noise (we tried) before they dump Aruba into the sea. I think what’s being exposed now is not in anyway to help the Holloways but rather to convince other Dutch Parliament members to dump Aruba.
would the equivalent to a Hero Brinkman here in the U.S. be…..like….. Dennis Kucinich?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYbgouqlMw
#24
You obviously did not get my point. That is a truth.
Hero Brinkman is in his current role not an expert. His only goal, as he is in opposition and has no political role of any value, is to comment sarcastically on everything foreign, as the target audience of the PVV are the dutch rednecks and Ku Klux Klan clones. As he is in that role, he is not the expert that could further build this story.
#45
No, here you see a PVV meeting (even though the wrong person was invited):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zr4OfQyVlM
# Paul Breiveld 46 & 47
Hero Brinkman is a former police officer and has administrative reforms in his portfolio; if he’s not an expert who is?
And him being in the minority in parliament: you are right but he has the majority of the public behind him in this… And the PVV will throw this at the governments feet in the next elections.
Thanks a lot btw you found the time to post anyway. You must be exhausted throwing molotov-cocktails and stones, looting stores and waving your red flag for four or five days by now? Are you still in Greece?
http://tinyurl.com/246vqs
richard …..would you pass the email address for brinkman on? thanks. you can get my email from klass if you don’t want to publish it here.
LET ME EXPLAIN AGAIN AND AGAIN;
YOU SEE WHY ARUBA OR ARUBANS HAS NOTHING TO DO OR BLAME FOR ,IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG IN THE INVESTIGATION….
WHY? BECAUSE ALL CHIEVES, TOPMAN IN THE DUTCH JUSTICE SYTEM ARE DUTCHMEN FROM HOLLAND…
WHOLE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS IN HANDS OF HOLLAND..!!!
RUDY CROES IS JUST A POLITICAL FIGURE TO HANDLE LOCAL SMALL AFFAIRS, LIKE A SHERRIF….
SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO INVESTIGATE ,LET THE DUTCHMEN INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES…
IF YOU WANT TO BOYCOTT , BOYCOTT HOLLAND…
THEY ARE IN CHARGE, ARUBA IS A DUTCH ISLAND. !!!
THE ARUBAN , BORN IN ARUBA POLICEMEN, HAS NO POWER TO CORRUPT ANY INVESTIGATION, THEY JUST
TAKE ORDERS AND DO THEIR JOB.
GO TO HOLLAND FOR ANSWERS..
FOR THE ARUBANS THIS CASE IS CLOSED AND GONE A LONG TIME AGO…….
#47 I watched your video. I did not know your a comedian.
#48
I am not a Greek.
And Hero Brinkman does not have the majority of the public behind him. (Unless you mean the public on this board or forum).
Kaye, I will send it to moderator Klaasen for forwarding. I am told by the person who gave it to me that it is a personal e-mail address.
I am going to run if Rita Verdonk starts about this
Richard
so sorry didnt mean to upset you.. your comeback was kinda suggesting i upset you apologies here
misskatie
Aruba
what are you trying to say ???that the chief Of police and other officials didnt have the power to commit such a corruption? your so naive where are you getting your info from ???heresay ???… do you think that you would be privvy to inside information.. I think not… you defend a country or crappy island that for many years before natalee has been infected with corruption .. they have been allowed to do this for so so long…. there is virtualy no integrity ..honesty .. or morality…on that crappy mass of dirt and water.. many lies have been told and many innocent people affected…and so many people were paid off to destroy evidence or keep their mouths shut… something big did happen at the sloots evil compound and it looks like it may just now come to light.. learn to spell… and learn your facts.. a decent girl was murdered there and many of her family members have suffered immensely as a result… we here at scared monkeys have kept up with this story and have developed a respect and love for beth.. dave… steve.. holloway and many others of their immediate family.. they have been cruely treated… never have I seen such nepotism and such corruption… we will stand with natalees family until the truth is revealed… ARUBA IS SICK AND FULL OF SO MUCH CORRUPTION.. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THIS ALL UNFOLD… AND IT WILL… to all you dedicated monkeys who have been coming here out of love and suport … I say lets keep the fires burning…..GOOD JOB!
p.s.s
I HOPE THIS RUINS THE LAWSUIT THAT THE KALPOES HAD WITH DR. PHIL.. THIS WILL EXPOSE THEM TOOO … OH IM SO SURE THEY ARE SHAKING IN THEIR BOOTS.. I KINDA THINK WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE WILL BE FINALY REVEALED…………
I KNOW DAVE AND STEVE AND BETH ARE PRAYER WARRIOS AND ALL THE PRAYERS OF THE SAINTS WILL NOT RETURN VOID … THERE IS A TIME AND SEASON FOR EERYTHING…..
GOD BLESS U ALL MONKEYS KEEP UP THE FIGHT…. I DONT COME HERE OFTEN TO POST AS MYSCHEDULE DOESNT ALLOW IT BUT I DO READ THE BLOGS TO KEEP UPDATED.
Brinkman does not need the people behind him , because he alone said what most of us on here already knew.Aruba covered up…..you can not diminish what he said by trying to compare him to kkk.That shows how desperate you are paul.
aruban#50…….you can stop your explaining…….we’re not buying that crap anymore. nobody wants to accept responsibility; not aruba, not the nederlands.
boycott aruba till justice is served for natalee and her family!!
j4n
Aruban,
Thanks for your comment, but the focus needs to remain on Aruba. The fact that you and other Arubans refuse to wander downtown and start a large protest demanding a full investigation of the corruption shows that you are just as corrupted.
The fact that AHATA hired a PR agency to counter and slime the Holloway family is unconscionable.
Aruba must come clean or continue receiving the wrath of America.
My personal opinion is that they are going to blame the “corrupt police department”…mostly Van der Straton…because he is out of the country and probably cannot be extradited…so he will be safe. They won’t be able to punish those responsible…ie Joran, Paulus, the K brother etc because Van der Straton and the “corrupt police department” got rid of the evidence. They will think that a public apology to the family should suffice and they will close the case.
They are NOT going to bring anyone down for the crimes against Natalee…no matter what happens or what is said. They have proven that time and time again. They don’t care about Natalee, they don’t care about her family, they don’t care about her friends and they don’t care about what they have done to Aruba. They just want it to go away. And, they are stupid enough to think an apology will suffice. Look how many other times they made us think they were going to do something only to slap us in the face. I’m sorry, they are not going to do anything.
libby…..what you say may hold some truth but we can do something, individually and collectively….BOYCOTT and spread the word. make sure the story never goes untold.
boycott aruba untill there is justice for natalee and her family.
j4n
ARUBAN: sorry, but the case is and always be open as long as aruba denies the charges. the plagues will continue until justice is found.
#61 Babyblue…I agree 100%. I didn’t mean it that way. I just meant, we can’t count on them ever doing what is right in this case. They have been playing us for fools since the beginning and it is obvious to me they intend to keep doing so.
Trust me, I spread the word about their corruption and what they have done to Natalee every chance I get. I also post flyers anyplace I can. I also drive down the road with 100-200 of them blowing off the top of my car…making sure I’m near a travel agency.
No justice for Natalee…boycott forever.
From Amigoe.com 12/10/08 WILLEMSTAD/DEN HAUGUE-State Secretary Ank Bijleveld-Schouten(Homeland Affairs and Kingdom Relations,CDA)assumes that the Aruban minister of Justice,Rudy Croes will start an immediate investigation into the,as he stated himself, the accusations of obstructing the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway by police chief Jan van der Straten. You all know what happens when you “assume” things! I pray something will finally be done to get to the bottom of this case. Beth and Dave and dont deserve this cruel treatment. What they do deserve is JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!
A Dutch Parlementairy Delegation is travelling to Aruba and the other Dutch islands from January 2 to January 12, 2008.
Consider e-mailing members of the
Delegation.
Tweede Kamer (Second Chamber)
Dhr. W.I.I. van Beek (delegation leader, VVD) W.vanBeek@tweedekamer.nl
Mw. W.R.C. Sterk (CDA) M.Sterk@tweedekamer.nl
Dhr. J. Schinkelshoek (CDA) j.schinkelshoek@tweedekamer.nl
Dhr. J.A.W.J. Leerdam (PvdA) J.Leerdam@tweedekamer.nl
Mw. A.K. Kuiken (PvdA) a.kuiken@tweedekamer.nl
Mw. L.J. Griffith (VVD) L.Griffith@tweedekamer.nl
Dhr. H. Brinkman (PVV) h.brinkman@tweedekamer.nl
Mw. C.A. Ortega-Martijn (CU) c.ortega@tweedekamer.nl
Eerste Kamer (First Chamber – Senate)
Mw. M.Y. Linthorst (deputy delegation leader, PvdA) m.y.linthorst@chello.nl
Dhr. H.A. Doek (CDA) ha.doek@tiscali.nl
Dhr. F.E. van Kappen (VVD) f.e.van.kappen@freeler.nl
Mw. G.H.M.M. ten Horn (SP) s.tenhorn@eerstekamer.nl
this email addresses are not private but from a public source:
http://www.eerstekamer.nl/contact_opnemen (ledenlijst – PDF)
http://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerleden/commissies/NAAZ/
Literal meaning Straaten?
of the streets
from the streets
from the gutter is more like it…………
Thank you Aruban #50 for stating the position of the people of Aruba. They were only following orders, the case (like the murder of 6 Million Jews) is closed and we are not involved. It is a statement of complete moral condemnation. I believe that this is a true statement and that the people of Aruba a people completely corrupt and willing participants in any and all crimes against humanity if only they can go about their daily business and get stoned. The majority are vermin and should not be counted among the people of the planet..JS
63 libby: that is great what you do.
Fliers blowing off the roof of your car; you have taken these words literally:
“fine” for littering!!!!!
MissKatie … not offended at all. I hope that moderator Klaasen sent you the address.
To the Dutch trolls: Is the relevant issue Hero Brinkman, and his position in the Dutch political system, or the truth or falsity of what he says?
You’re trying the classic maneuver of trying to get people to shoot the messenger for the message he brings, regardless of the message’s truth.
We’re not buying. Period. Take that to your Aruban paymasters, and tell them to shove it.
Aruban (#50) … I’m sure you speak the truth … that for Arubans, this case is closed and gone a long time ago.
And for us Americans, the time for dithering over the moral implications of a boycott of Aruba is likewise closed and gone.
We owe your island NOTHING … so thank you for your permission to promote the boycott. It seems that your government was whining about it.
But as far as I’m concerned, to hell with you.
#70
Wishing all to hell… Might sent you there too!
It seems to me that it is perfectly sensible to boycott the area where the crime occurred. Natalee was taken, brutalized and murdered on the island of Aruba.
Could anybody really sit on that beach and gaze out at the water and not think of what those monsters did to sweet Natalee Holloway?
Yes, boycott every single grain of sand on that hellhole called Aruba.
Croes said he was attacked by the former chief of police….and says there was corruption between Van der Straaten and Paulus Ven Der Sloot….so what’s new….what gives you the right as Minister of Justice to not of addressed the issue over 3 yrs ago….
“Can we all just get along?”
Rodney King
#50
The case may be closed for you, but the case will NEVER be closed for anyone with a heart. Natalee Holloway is EVERYONE’s CHILD. I dare say if you took a poll MOST feel the same way. Justice for Natalee and her loving family is the CRY heard around the world. We will never give up the fight for Natalee and her family. NEVER!!!
Richard:
I did not and will not vote for the PVV (rightwing lunies).
But his statements are true
Aruban (50)
I have been thinking that the average Aruban did not care about the safety of their american guests. Aruban, your post (50) proves that I was right.May you have to eat GRASS and TREE BARK like in NORTH KOREA.
BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL NATALEE GETS JUSTICE.
It was Rudy that said somebody needs to shut that woman up, referring to Beth, who was only looking for her daughter and knew things were obviously corrupt….
Why is Rudy Croes in charge of this investigation? The guy who sat on the news about Paulus and Stratten? That makes him just as bad as the people he is supposively investigating now. Is Croes gonna stop at Stratten? Is he gonna go after Jacobs, Dompig and Jansen?
#50 aruban, there may be some truth in what you say in regards to the “so called” innocent people’s of aruba. believe me, many people HAVE turned to nederlands for answers, i for one only to be told that “they aren’t handling the case”….contact aruba….only to be told “we aren’t handling this case……nederlands is”. NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. no one wants to be held accountable for the murder and coverup that occured on the island of aruba 3 1/2 years ago. lies, coverup, slander againest beth and more lies. not only was natalee an american citizen but she was a human being that was kidnapped, raped, murdered and disposed of on the island of aruba. a human being!! a life!! someone has to be held accountable. say what you want but the boycott of aruba will continue to press on in spite of the naysayers. if one person can reach out to just one other person and share the story, the WHOLE story, if just one more person understands the story and all of the lies and coverup that happened, if one more person understands how dangerous this hellhole of an island is, if one person vows never to set foot on the soil of aruba or let their kids travel there, then the boycott is working. say what you want, the tourism numbers speak for themselves. personally, until this case is dealt with in a fair and just manner and natalee and her family have some resolution, i hope the entire slimey, infested cesspool of an island, everyone and everything on it sink so far down into the ocean that it is irretreivable. good riddance.
ceasue#65…..thanks for the list!!!
Boycott aruba until there is justice for natalee, dave and Beth.
j4n
Just in Dutch Newsshow: Hart van Nederland:
Dutch Staatssecretaris Ank Bijleveld (sort of deputy-minister; second in rang on the ministry of Intern. Affairs and Kingdomsrelations) wants a thorough investigation into the NH investigation!
If I heard it right she’s written a letter to the Aruban OM!
Although this seems VERY GOOD NEWS the problem remains that Aruba is m.o.l. ‘indepent’ of the Netherlands.
Here’s the link to the show.
http://tinyurl.com/64629k
She btw didn’t sent her letter to the Aruban OM but to the Dutch Parliament.
If Holland or SOMEONE doesn’t do what’s right and take care of this problem, we won’t have to worry about a boycott of Aruba. With all the publicity (thank you, Greta) tourism will go totally down the tubes. After the hotels pull out because any hope of profit is gone, this island will go down hill FAST. Granted, the “privileged” will be long gone, but the average citizen will pay the price.
How many of you have spent your vacation in Haiti? Below is the CIA report of Haiti, what a hellhole, brings to mind what another island could very well become, all because of one precious girl.
“Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, with 80% of the population living under the poverty line and 54% in abject poverty.
Since 2004, about 8,000 peacekeepers from the UN Stabilization Mission in Haiti (MINUSTAH) maintain civil order in Haiti; despite efforts to control illegal migration, Haitians cross into the Dominican Republic and sail to neighboring countries;
Caribbean transshipment point for cocaine en route to the US and Europe; substantial bulk cash smuggling activity; Colombian narcotics traffickers favor Haiti for illicit financial transactions; PERVASIVE CORRUPTION; significant consumer of cannabis.
Domestic facilities barely adequate; international facilities slightly better; telephone density in Haiti remains the lowest in the Latin American and Caribbean region.”
It gives me great pleasure to participate in the verbal destruction of Aruba to all of my co-workers, friends, family and any strangers that I learn are or have contemplated considering a vacation to Aruba. I can list a minimum of 67 people who have been convinced NOT to vacation there in the past 3 years or so. It’s called payback by just an individual who won’t stand for inhumane conduct anywhere. It’s also refreshing to know there are thousands of silent people of conscience doing the same everywhere. As the youngsters say: Aruba, you’re toast baby.
Follow the link to boycott Aruba. Their politicians are total crap.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081212/ts_afp/usattackstorturerights_081212034255
Time to apply for the Protest Permits:
http://bostonglobetravelshow.com/
Let’s show Aruba we are still here to protest and boycott their island until Natalee receives justice.
Here an article caesu posted in the forum:
Probe into beginning phase Holloway-case
12-12-2008
The Aruban minister of justice Rudy Croes will start an independent study probe in the investigation at beginning stage of the Holloway-case. That has confirmed by the Minister Friday. The preparations have been already made. ”
Minister Croes accused last week the Dutch police force commissioner Jan van der Starten of seriously impeding the investigation at the beginning stages into American teenager in 2005. Van der Straten allegedly wanted to help his friend Paul van der Sloot with protecting his son Joran, who was suspected to have been involved with the disappearance of American girl.
State Secretary Ank Bijleveld (kingdom relations), who assumes the charge is not correct, said Thursday that she wanted an immediate probe into the charge of the Arubans minister. She finds it strange that the minister comes only now just with the accusation. The Netherlands is ready to help with the investigation if necessary. Croes is says he is “not starting the probe because of her demand. I do not need an instruction. ”
The PVV in vain insisted Thursday at the meeting of the Parliamentary Committee Antillian and Arubaanse Affairs (NAAZ) on that the Dutch Kingdom Federal Bureau of Internal Investigation examines the charges. The party stood alone with this proposal in the Second Chamber. VVD Johan Remkes explained why he voted against the motion: he does not consider the Aruban minister ‘as the most reliable source of inspiration’.
Croes was also critical on the Dutch government. According to the minister it has been asked at the time to conceal as much as possibe that Joran is Dutchman. He had appear as much as possible as a Aruban. That had a Dutch minister Minister – ‘I will not say who’ requested, according to Croes.
Bijleveld recognise this criticism. According to her the Netherlands has all possible ways has granted support to the investigation, which was conducted under the guidance of the ALE on Aruba.
PVV-motions
During the meeting of the commission NAAZ the PVV submitted three other motions, which were all defeated. PVV-spokesman Hero Brinkman wanted with the motions to prevent that the Netherlands would contribute to the debt cleansing on the Antilles or would only want to start with this before the general Court of Auditors had looked into this. Also the demand by Brinkman to hold a referundum about the Kingdom restructering in the Netherlands did not find a sympathetic ear in the Chamber.
A motion of SP-Member of Parliament Raak waa, however, adopted. In this he asks the Dutch government clear up what is the future of the special economic areas in other words, tax paradises, on the BES-islands. State Secretary Bijleveld comes in January with new tax laws for the islands. The SP is against tax advantages for companies, which do not contribute to the society.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/kort-nieuws/car20081212_ANP-vdstraten-croes
So Croes is going to lead the investigation. Well… What may come out of that…
And it seems that Johan Remkes (in 2005 Minister of Internal Affairs in the NL’s) was the Minister who asked/ordered not to picture Jurine VdS as being Dutch.
Caesu deducted: Remkes as Minister was the Boss of the KLPD; in the 2005 TV show “Opsporing Verzocht” (“WANTED”) on the disappearance of Natalee, Jurine was played by an dark-skinned guy (!!!!! x 1000). That show was most lightly made in cooperation with the KLPD.
Nope, IMO, this doesn’t get it. He’s had every opportunity to do what’s right, and this is just more posturing, hoping it will go away. Amazing. They just don’t get it. Until everyone involved in the cover up and Natalee receives justice WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY!!!
JORAN….you know what you did with Natalee….I live in Michigan and have followed this case since the beginning as have many others throughout this world…Be a MAN and fess up to what you did with Natalee that night….You owe that to her parents….Natalee deserves a resting place…..Remember the only 3 things in life that you need to worry about are DEATH, TAXES and KARMA……..If you dont admit to what you did to Natalee 3 years ago…..KARMA will get you sooner or later……..Could be you, your mom, your dad. or your brother…eventually something bad will happen to your family that will be so devasting to you that you will just want to DIE!!!!
Richard, I hope that all this new publicity brings up Amy Bradley’s name again.
I also wonder how Joran held Natalee as she died, deposited her in the ocean, and also sold her to some guy for $10,000? No one pays money for a dead, blonde girl. And during all this, how did Joran’s mother find out what Natalee’s underwear looked like?
Beth truly looked shaken after this last interview with Joran. I hope that she is not sick over this latest tale. Joran is playing a dangerous game. Someone needs to nail him. He is guilty, and so is his father.
boycott aruba
molly in houston
@90
Natalees underwear, shoes and clothes.
In june 2005 there were a lot of discussions on the internet between Natalees closest friends.
They were mostly in secrets and keeping silence.
But rumors and new things were afloat.
There was a conversation that went over the clothes of Natalee and the reason why she had these clothes on… that particular day in May 2005.
And so people know who followed that talking.
when asked, BUT ALL INVOLVED ARE DUTCHMEN, BORN IN HOLLAND, INVESTIGATORS, AND JUDGES TOO…
HERO BRINKMAN COULD NOT ANSWER GRETA…….
THE SMALL LOCAL POLICE MAN FORCED ALL BIG DUTCH CHIEVES TO BE CORRUPT….YES ,YES , WE ALL BELIEVE THAT…..
ONE ANSWER WIIL DO YES, FOR ALL YOUR QUESTIONS , PEARL # 5.
A DUTCHMAN, BORN IN HOLLAND, PUT IN PLACE BY THE JUSTICE SYSTEM OF HOLLAND….NOT ARUBA. !
SALARY PAID BY HOLLAND …!
ANY MORE QUESTIONS, GO TO BEA….IF , JUST IF THERE WAS ANY CORRUPTION, GO TO HOLLAND FOR QUESTIONS……
YOU SEE WHY ARUBA OR ANY ARUBANS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CORRUPTION, IF THERE WAS CORRUPTION…!!
come to aruba all of you,we are waiting…greta nancy and of course mr Brinkman!! 2 ratingseeking BiTcHeS and and another gay dutchman against all antillians….remember pim fortuin?Keep talking shit….!! Keep talking!!
We… better start saying hello to Natalee again!
She comes back!!!
Lol…#94 J.V. You sound as intelligent as Joran and his buddies. You smoking some crack today? Your comment makes no sense.
#94….is that you kalpoe brothers? little suriname rats that you are.
Same goes for #95 Clouseau.
What? Your comment does not make sense either. Maybe you should hook up with #94 Joran wanna be and smoke more crack.
JV et al farted?
Look, the civilized world recognizes that Aruba neither respects rule of law nor news media, both are necessities of democracies.
@98
Lord Almighty I feel my temperature
higher and higher
I feel my soul today rising
Girl oh girl I feel my temperature rising
higher and higher
I feel my soul today
Welcome back between friends Natalee!
come on and dance
feeling almost high today
Girl oh Lord
I feel my temperature rising
I think it’s enough for today
And…
Perhaps someone likes to use my name and words.
So you can see what you have on this channel!
#50
Why should I cry for you?
http://new.music.yahoo.com/videos/Sting/Why-Should-I-Cry-For-You–2168574
To: Hero Dutman,
I feel I have some helpful information as to Natalie’s past whereabouts…I called at the time of her disappearnce to relay the information, but feel it was ignored or misplaced.
Contact me if you are interested.
Sincerely,
M.Michaux
Yes there is a lot of corruption in Aruba as well as in the Netherlands and in the United States.
But in Aruba we’ve got a bigger problem: we have politicians who will sell their soul, to stay in the kingdom of hell of the netherlands.
You can hear them everyday saying “tanten cu mi ta hulandes”(as long I’m dutch), or “tanten cu nos ta den reino”*aslong we’re in the kingdom)
So you yourself can sum it up:
As long as we have politicians who think like that, there will be a lot of corruption here in Aruba!
81 eurobert:
Are you sure Aruba is ‘independent’ from yhe Netherlands?
How do you explain it then that Arubans are forced to cary a Netherlands Passport and Nationality?
Yes forced! Because they cannot renounce neither the Dutch passport or Dutch nationality!
Dodn’t you know that?
ceasue#65
after posting all the dutch politicians email adresses, could you also post all the aruban politicians email adresses too?
[...] Why is anyone supposed to believe everything reasonable was done to investigate the disappearance of Natalee Holloway? Many stated from the outset that the fix was in when two black security guards were arrested while the last three people to be with Natalee Holloway, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe remained free to walk the streets. Dutch official Hero Brinkman is on record as saying that Aruba is “Corrupt as Hell!!!” [...]
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check out the girls in this photograph, natalee in picture? nobody knows,so far nobody I’ve contacted has responded including fox news.it’s like nobody is soppose to find her,if anybody out there can enlarge and clarify the picture please please do so.these women in this picture are in all likelyhood hostages and men with credit cards are paying the kidnappers money so they can sexually asault the victim and then leave the hostage in the hands of the kiddnapers so others can assault them too.anyway here the place the photogragh can be found tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/994667815.html just cut and paste in the address bar
# bloodhound on Your comment is awaiting moderation. February 22nd, 2009 5:46 am
also here’s another picture which I ‘ve not recieved any feedback on.the girl sure looks like natalee,but could use another opinion,just because see’s smiling in the picture anything and the she probably didn’t know that it was going to be used to sell her on craigslist,evan the ad itself was probably written up by kiddnappers,o.k here’s the address sydney.craigslist.com.au/ers/997529164.html
No justice for natalee hollaway. What ashame it is. They will pay someday for what they did . Joran will pay for what he did.
This has been a cover up from the start.
Boycott Aruba.
Obviously there was never a beginning point to their (Aruba) so called “investigation”. The discrepancies in the stories of these boys is incredible. Hopefully, the guilt will make them suffer inside!
BOYCOTT ARUBA – Justice for Natalie!
Pathetic that a select few post comments like “come to aruba all of you,we are waiting”. Don’t worry – because of the actions of the authorities….
You don’t have to “wait” because anyone with sense will be boycotting your @$$es! Hit them in the pocketbook!
Welcome to http://www.arubainjustice.com & http://www.koninginnlwatismensenrechten.com
Regards
Carlos Severino Tromp
[...] incompetence and cronyism from law enforcement investigating the case. Dutch officials called Aruba, “corrupt as Hell”. In the end Joran Van der Sloot was never held accountable nor prosecuted in Aruba. Even after [...]