Beth Holloway on the Oprah Winfrey Show discussing Missing Daughter Natalee Holloway


Today Beth Holloway, the mother of missing Alabama teen Natalee OprahshowHolloway while vacationing in Aruba, will be appearing on the Oprah Winfrey Show. We spoke with Beth briefly yesterday following the taping. The show went well. Sorry, can not give any detail, you just have to watch. However, so much for those Aruban officials who thought and wanted Natalee’s story to go away.

Then, the case has been closed…now Natalee Holloway’s mother, Beth, and brother are speaking out.

Don’t worry Aruba, its not like anyone watches Oprah. Yeah, and Boston isn’t a college town either.  Oh that’s right, her empire just got a little larger, The Oprah Winfrey Network. You may want to think this one over as Beth Holloway and her son discuss Natalee Holloway today and all the TV sets that it will appear on. Let Oprah’s audience read the lies and changing of stories in witness and suspect statements that took place. Let them determine whether there was no evidence. Beth_twitty

Billionaire Oprah Winfrey’s already giant empire just got bigger. The Queen Bee of TV and Discovery Communications yesterday announced a 50-50 joint venture that will re-brand Discovery Health into OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network. Winfrey, who will turn 54 at the end of the month, will serve as chairman of the new channel, which will debut next year in about 70 million homes, and have complete editorial control over its programming. (NY Post

Oprah’s viewership will now be privy to Joran Van der Sloot’s recent actions of throwing wine in the face of crime reporter, Peter de Vries, when hot tempered Dutch boy did not get his way and was angered. I guess Joran Van der Sloot, one of the last people ever seen with Natalee Holloway before she disappeared forever on Aruba was upset with de Vries views of Aruba’s lies and conflicts of interest.


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Let Oprah’s audiance and TV’s around the world decide for themselves as to who is guilty, innocent or if there was no evidense. People have an interesting way of publically righting obvious wrongs that were done to individuals. If Joran Van der Sloot is capable of doing such and uncontrollable act in public like the recent wine incident, iaudienceevidencemage what he is capable of doing in private.

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  • Beth Twitty Hopes Teens Will learn from Natalee Holloway disappearance
  • Benefit Concert for Holloway family in Pine Bluff, Arkansas

  • Comments

    145 Responses to “Beth Holloway on the Oprah Winfrey Show discussing Missing Daughter Natalee Holloway”

    1. Bob on January 16th, 2008 10:28 am

      he Persistence:

      “We know that if our assault is flawless, the Leviathan will yield its secrets.”

      Be afraid ARUBA, be very afraid.

    2. 10061906 on January 16th, 2008 10:51 am

      Not to steal Kyle Kingman’s thunder; He and the crew took some much needed R and R.
      Everything is well for those concerned.
      He will soon update on the Persistence current status..

    3. mommytraveler on January 16th, 2008 10:57 am

      Message to Joran and Company:

      What’s happened in the past never goes away. Never.

    4. Miklo on January 16th, 2008 11:04 am

      But wait…

      Why are there so many apologists for Joran&Co.?
      Why are there so many people willing to defend his behavior? Do they mistakenly think he will appreciate it? Do they hate America so much that defending criminal behavior is justified??

      Don’t they understand? This makes Aruba look
      even W-O-R-S-E!!

    5. Carpe Noctem on January 16th, 2008 11:13 am

      If you’re not sure when Oprah airs

      in your area, here’s a link to the

      schedule/location finder from her


    6. Sahara on January 16th, 2008 11:14 am

      I will be sending a thank you email to Oprah. I hope that they show the “painting rocks” video.

    7. katablog on January 16th, 2008 11:19 am

      Yeah, there are probably a few hundred households that don’t have TVs or don’t have women so not “everyone” will be watching! In addition, one need only ask Barack Obama how much influence Oprah has!

      Even Mexico broadcasts Oprah everyday in evening Prime Time!

      After this show:
      1. the trolls will be out force
      2. Aruba will not even be able to give away vacations to Aruba. Watch for the next promotion which will try to pay people to come!

      Yep, the Natalee Holloway case is really going to go away now Aruba!

    8. Miss-Underestimated on January 16th, 2008 11:28 am

      Remember if you miss Oprah now you can watch her again tonite with Beth

    9. disgustedmom on January 16th, 2008 11:35 am

      thanks for reminding about the Oprah show! I had forgotten!

      Now for old time’s sake: Re: Paraphrasing Greta:

      “I(Greta) think Joran is innocent. He didn’t do squat to Natalee. He just left her on the beach after they engaged in what SHE wanted to do… where she wanted to stay all by herself in pitch black darkness alone, yes alone, in a foreign land because she didn’t want to go home to Alabama while Joran wanted to go home to beddie bye to get some rest before going to school the next day like a good boy.”

      “I (Greta) believe Joran was only out for a night of typical island teenage boy fun with a tourist girl showing her around the island and thinking it was cute she wanted to see sharks when every islander knows there aren’t any to be seen, but accommodating her anyway just to be hospitable.”

      “I (Greta) think it’s just horrible Joran is being blamed for Natalee’s disappearance! He’s just a likable boy, so honest and sincere. Such a shame he got caught up in this mess…etc and blah blah blah….”

      Ok, Greta, you know Laci Peterson AND her direct family thought Scott was so neato too. And the BTK killer was so nice and churchie! And don’t forget Ted Bundy, helping little ole ladies cross the street. Ya think a jerk would be able to get away with committing infringements on the rights of others if their demeanor of evil gave them away before hand?

      These people put on a mask in order to get anyone to even talk to them. Peter De Vries saw through Joran’s mask so he got his eyes blinded with wine for seeing.

      Joran didn’t like Peter’s face looking at him absent a smiling appreciation of Joran’s ‘truth’, so Peter’s face got assaulted with wine.

      Now what did Natalee not like that Joran was up to? Sex? So what did he attack then, besides her face that was complaining? And her words that he didn’t want to hear?

      Joran is an arrogant loser. And he likes to make joke of people. Try this on for size….

      Natalee wanted to see the cool lighthouse…so Joran takes her to a different one that is not worth seeing, being the Colorado Lighthouse.

      Joran tells Deepak to make sure when he tells the cops the route they took away from CC’s that night to make sure he doesn’t do SOUTH or else the cameras at the hotels along that way will be checked.


    10. molly in houston on January 16th, 2008 11:40 am

      Power to the families of Natalee Holloway!!!
      Aruba beware. The truth is coming harder and faster. Get ready to deal with the reality of what you did or allowed to happen. “Your sins will find you out.”

      Justice is Coming
      Boycott Aruba

      molly in houston

    11. Miss-Underestimated on January 16th, 2008 11:48 am
    12. kayjay on January 16th, 2008 12:22 pm

      Please everyone send a email thanking Oprah. Use the link Carpe provided and then go to the Home Page.

    13. Sharon Chicago on January 16th, 2008 12:24 pm

      #9 Disgusted Mom…

      Greta needs to take lessons on how to interview suspects from Peter.

      I noted she was not on FOX doing the reporting of the wine in Peters face incident. So glad, she probably would have blamed Peter for provoking the sporter.

    14. mommytraveler on January 16th, 2008 12:57 pm

      On Greta’s blog site, just about everybody disagreed with her statement about “inclined to believe Joran”. For whatever reason, she certainly did change her tune and always has Tacopino on with the last comment. Like she was being threatened or something – it was so obvious to all her viewers.

    15. Sharon Chicago on January 16th, 2008 1:06 pm

      Can we blame the change of life syndrome for Greta’s bezzare behavior “inclined to believe Joran”….
      What else could it be? She is educated so she is not dumb. I am just puzzeled. Maybe it is time for her to take down her licensed and close shop. She has lost her ability to use clear judgement.

    16. katablog on January 16th, 2008 1:18 pm

      Arubans are posting like mad over at the Oprah board with the most outrageous lies about Natalee and Beth. It’s unbelievable how 1) uninformed some Arubans are about Natalee and Beth and therefore they repeat the lies that a few have started 2)how those who know better are so willing to defend Joran and Aruba by besmirching the character of a dead victim.

    17. Sandra Virginia on January 16th, 2008 1:26 pm

      Many of Beth’s interview are very vague on information. I am hoping that with Oprah she will give more details, and paint a convincing theory of what happened in Arub. I would love to pressure Joran into trying to explain/defend himself. It’s very hard to keep track of lies, and would love to see him incrminate himself.
      We really need to keep up the pressure!

    18. Terri on January 16th, 2008 1:26 pm

      I read some comments on Oprah’s site. What a shame it is for someone to badmouth someone who has been missing for almost 3 years. I wish each one of them to loose something that they love dearly and not know what happened to it for that amount of time. What goes around, comes around.

      # 8 – what do you mean if you miss Oprah, you can watch it tonight? I am going to miss it because I am at work.

    19. mommytraveler on January 16th, 2008 1:28 pm

      Katablog – please provide the link to the Oprah board? Can’t seem to find it. Thanks.

    20. Carpe Noctem on January 16th, 2008 1:32 pm
    21. Mike on January 16th, 2008 1:44 pm

      Don’t they say that when you attack the victim as a lawyer or defendent or even supporter you know the perp is truly guilty…why else do it?

    22. mayan_moons on January 16th, 2008 1:56 pm

      This will be the first time we hear from Matt and i can’t wait to hear what this young man has to say.




    23. SUPER DAVE on January 16th, 2008 1:59 pm


    24. Betsy on January 16th, 2008 2:10 pm

      If its okay to bash Beth on Oprah’s site, can’t we say what we want here about Anita?

      Anita, you are a terrible mother! Stop going sleeveless, its not an option for you. Next time you make it on TV sit on the side of the table that cannot film you from the waist down; it’s not flattering.

      Paulus, don’t forget your 2×4!

    25. disgustedmom on January 16th, 2008 2:11 pm

      #13 Sharon, yeah, she does need to take lessons from Peter!

      Greta is weird, IMO, in that she seems to have some prejudice against pretty girls in a way that she would side against them and for a dude who showed her/Greta some attention, such that Greta felt so honored that Joran was ‘pretending’ to let Greta be his confidant she didn’t dare side against him anymore for fear of losing the feeling of being accepted by some ‘hot’ dude.

      Anita has the same shtick going on, IMO. She wants so badly to be adored by men, she will not challenge them to a point of sacrificing a hug and pat, and a big wet kiss.

      I abhore this type of female!

    26. JusticeforNatalee on January 16th, 2008 2:18 pm

      Aruba, Natalee’s case is never going away until there is justice!

      Persistence dedicated crew searching for Natalee’s body
      Beth on Oprah’s show = over 20 million viewers
      Joran’s rage exposed
      Upcoming travel show campaigns

    27. 10061906 on January 16th, 2008 2:26 pm

      This was taped yesterday for airing today around 4:00PM
      Beth’s and Matt’s interviews.

    28. mommytraveler on January 16th, 2008 2:33 pm

      Go to:

      Click on Today’s Shows; then click on the story about Marion Jones. The negative comments from Arubans and supporters of Joran are disgusting.

    29. Miss-Underestimated on January 16th, 2008 2:37 pm

      Oprah repeats on WLS Channel 7 Chicago at 11PM, it is the same show that was on earlier in the day.

      I am sure someone will have the interview on youtube.

      Let the Arubans keep bashing Beth, it will only show why tourists shouldn’t go to Aruba.

    30. brie on January 16th, 2008 2:42 pm

      Sm…what is going on with the math problems…? We can still answer them but why?

    31. brie on January 16th, 2008 2:48 pm

      Anita looks like thunder thigh’s. Too many home deliveries…My kid is killing me!!!!

    32. mayan_moons on January 16th, 2008 2:54 pm

      Everytime those idiot’s bash Natalee & Beth they only hammer 1 more nail into Aruba tourism’s coffin. They are to stupid to understand that and everyone is laughing at you moron’s & your ignorance in doing that.

    33. Arubian on January 16th, 2008 3:34 pm

      continue to damage Aruba and ALAH will stow his bless upon america!! Salam Malecom!!


      SM: This sounds like a terrorist threat. (klaasend)

    34. Sharon Chicago on January 16th, 2008 3:35 pm

      #16 KATE.. I think it is TACO Joe doing the posting

    35. Terri on January 16th, 2008 3:41 pm

      Thank you guys for the information about Oprah. I am thinking that I remember Beth making the comment in her book that “this is big” and I took it to mean that it could involve Higher up officials. Does anyone remember this or am I just making this up in my mind? If this is the case, then I wish that Beth would just let loose with everything that she knows. I do recall that they chose words carefully, so as not to p*ss people off, seeing how they needed as much info as they could get. But, I would tell all and everything because she has nothing at all to loose. To keep it inside or not tell the whole side of the story is like playing into the culprits hands. To tell it like it is, seems like some high officials will be scrambling to make up new stories.

    36. Miss-Underestimated on January 16th, 2008 3:41 pm

      There is corruption is all countries and all goverments…It is sad what the citizens of Aruba are saying about Natalee…

      It is a reminder of how they feel about the tourists that visit Aruba.

    37. Terri on January 16th, 2008 3:52 pm

      I’m scared, arubian

    38. Carpe Noctem on January 16th, 2008 4:18 pm

      Deepak needs to wear Depends diapers.

      He’s the leak springin-est thing I have

      ever seen before in my life! Just how

      many times can one man wiz in 1 hour?


    39. Pearl on January 16th, 2008 4:22 pm

      God bless Oprah!

      Best wishes Beth and Matt! God bless you both and give you all the courage and wisdom you need to stand up and claim Natalee’s truth!

      We are with you Matt and Beth!

      Nelson Oduber: “This will all blow over in two weeks.”

      It will follow you, Aruba and all the predators and co-conspirators for however long it takes to bring Natalee home and honor her right to have her truth told, her voice heard, her right to justice granted!

      I can’t wait until Oprah has her own network!
      I hope she has a news program!

      Truth, Integrity, Justice, and a faithful commitement to serve the PUBLIC’S INTEREST!

      GO, OPRAH!!!!!!

      We are with you Beth and Matt!

      Rise up, sweet Natalee and let your voice be heard through the courage and conviction of all who love you!!!




      Justice for Natalee and her family!

    40. Libby on January 16th, 2008 4:26 pm

      Terri, I remember that same comment from Beth. Actually, I think both Beth and Dave said “it is big”. I assumed what they meant in saying “it is big” is that so called government officials were involved in the cover up. I say “so called” government officals because the government officals that were involved were to protect and serve innocent people. These so called government officials did protect and serve…but they protected and served the criminals…not innocent people.

    41. mayan_moons on January 16th, 2008 4:28 pm

      Damage Aruba?

      We’re going to obliterate Aruba!

      Bank On It!

    42. Vicki on January 16th, 2008 4:29 pm

      #33- there is ni alah…There is GOD and he is watching over all of us…he doesnt like UGLY and your volcanic ashe of a Island will be punished. You ppl just dont get it. Only the rich ppl on your Island will survive cause they have money. You piss poor ppl will die. PITY but true. URINE doesnt give a rats behind about you guys. His father is a DEMENTED DEMON….and SATANS SPAWN will get his also.

    43. Mary on January 16th, 2008 4:33 pm

      Anyone see Oprah yet on the left coast? Not sure when it shows in various parts pa the country but we are ready for some feedback!

    44. chris on January 16th, 2008 4:34 pm

      #39 Pearl

      Let’s not forget TEAM MONKEYS!!!!!!!!!!!

    45. Para2legal on January 16th, 2008 4:39 pm

      oh darn, my post was just vaporized so here goes:
      #35 – I interpreted Beth’s comments “this is big” involved the higher-ups covering for their sons. The higher ups sons were part of the pimps gang involved in preying upon and date raping young girls on their last night on the island. Rather than face the scandal and have their sons go to prison, J2K were covered. If J2K went down, Paulus was going to make sure higher ups sons faced the music too. Remember Joran telling Greta, “we’d done this 20 times before” and then in late Dec. ’07 Mos declared the date rape pattern (and from what I remember American girls were especially targeted). The “something bad happened” is Natalee overdosed from the drug(s).

    46. Para2legal on January 16th, 2008 4:48 pm

      #35 – and yes, I wish Beth would blast certain Arubans to heck and back.

    47. mayan_moons on January 16th, 2008 4:50 pm

      Hey Pearl!

      Also who could ever forget O’Goober saying they were going to “SHUT BETH UP” if she keeps on speaking out for her missing daughter?

      I know i NEVER will!

    48. Helen Back on January 16th, 2008 4:57 pm

      #33 Arubian…..

      We don’t have to damage ARUBA.

      ARUBA is damaging itself.

    49. Sahara on January 16th, 2008 5:10 pm

      I hope that you traced #33 and send URL to Homeland Security Department.

    50. LilPuma on January 16th, 2008 5:13 pm

      I think the “this is huge” comment pertains to info or rumors about money laundering on the island funding North Korea’s nuclear weapons development as well as drug running. At least that’s what I thought it was. No doubt there are corrupt officials on Aruba who may be involved in these things. I read on one of our State Dept. or DOJ or CIA websites once that that’s why criminal elements use Caribbean countries. There are few checks and balances as well as small law enforcement agencies making them ripe for payoffs and corruption.

    51. LilPuma on January 16th, 2008 5:16 pm

      33. Arubian. Are you telling us that Aruba is harboring and/or supporting Islamic terrorists? What an utterly foolish thing to post.

    52. Terri on January 16th, 2008 5:17 pm

      I see what you are saying paralegal. Makes sense.

      God Bless Aruba.. they’re gonna need it

    53. mayan_moons on January 16th, 2008 5:33 pm

      I also believe the son’s of alot if not all of the gov/official’s were involved in the targeting of American tourist girl’s but after seeing Paules sitting next to Natalee & chatting her up at the Holiday Inn casino i feel the father’s could be a part of this sick perversion. Paules was coming on to Natalee just hours before she is NEVER seen again. Think that was just a coincidence? When it comes to Aruba there are NO coincidences. Whoever released that casino clip of Paules practically drooling as he spoke with Natalee wanted American’s to see Jurine’s father sizing up Natalee and you can bet there is a copy of the casino tape that will show all of Paules’s face. Paules’s face in the clip we see is obscured somewhat but you can’t miss that hairline, the watch he’s wearing & other feature’s. In the clip we can see Natalee pointing to Jurine who is at the other end of the blackjack table as she’s looking at Paules indicating Paules has just identified Jurine as his son.

    54. TJ on January 16th, 2008 5:53 pm

      I just watched Oprah. It was good, shorter than I expected. The main thing is that Natalee’s story is still out there.

    55. enough on January 16th, 2008 5:57 pm

      Oprah cares very much about young people, especially young women who had a rough road like she did at an early age. I wonder if she knows about the young women of Aruba who have had a rough road. How many of them have become porn stars at an early age? How many of them have we not heard about? Why are mothers and fathers not speaking up in their behalf? What ever happened to the young girl who was violently gang raped by her classmates who made videos of the event on their cell phones and posted it to the internet? Wasn’t it reported that a teacher was present and did nothing? The boy’s involved were of a young age. Perhaps they were emulating their older brother’s in “Pimps” gangs (Joran’s gang). Where is Aruba’s outrage about these things? Where are the Good people of Aruba? Aren’t their own young people more important to them than hiding secrets, spinning lies and rumors and bashing Natalee and her mother in the name of Tourism? Aren’t their own young people the real future of Aruba?

    56. ArubaZone on January 16th, 2008 5:58 pm

      {{edit}} – you guys are amazingly stupid to put up BS like that on your site (klaasend)

    57. mayan_moons on January 16th, 2008 6:06 pm

      To keep from losing your posts (especially long ones) highlight and copy the post before you hit the submit button. If it doesn’t go through renew the thread page and paste the post you lost as it will be saved until you copy another post you’ve typed.

    58. Maggie on January 16th, 2008 6:36 pm

      Was great seeing Beth and Matt!..I am sure Oprah had much more to say off camera.. also. Beth looks good, but you can see the toll this has taken on her.

      Joran is pathetic.. If they were looking for someone just to hang this on, they would’ve charged the 2 black guards he helped frame. He is accusing the OM of not being trustworthy and trying to hang innocent men for a crime.. Sounds like himself huh? This family is cuckoo IMO..

      Joran: I don’t have any trust anymore in the OM at Aruba… I think that they…. they are not trying to find the truth… or trying to find out what happened in this case. They are just literally doing…. they just want somebody to hang for this…

      Joran: … they just want somebody to hang for this… They just want for their own egos to… That they themselves come good out of this…
      Witt.: Even if it is an innocent person as well…
      Joran: Yes, even if it is an innocent person as well. I’m convinced of that.

      Nothing to hide, they didn’t help look for Natalee and told 1000 lies and told them to remain silent, kept the FBI out and have nothing to hide and didn’t want to frustrate an investigation.

      Paulus: Well yes we have allways uh, said that uh, as soon as uh, this case us no longer in court.., when uh, the OM uh, is no longer prosecuting it, we uh, are willing to give uh, another interview, in uh, a reliable tv-show. Uh… To show we have nothing to hide. (I have to skip all the ‘uhs’ here now… the’re just to much of them.) And it is so that all this publicity has had a very big impact on this case. It has even at some point taken over it. We thought that as long as this case is going on it was not right to get in the lamplights – however at some times it was necessary – because we didn’t want to frustrate this investigation in any way.

      Better quote who really said Natalee was dead.

      Joran: Uhmmmmm… Well in fact compared to the first ones they were not. They turned out less tough than I’d expected. There was a Dutch detective-team that told THEIR story and in fact it was just speculating what they did. The allready talked in terms of ‘a girl that was dead’, you name it, where in fact it’s just a missing girl.

      Pauw: Because there is now evidence you know of she’s dead?
      Joran: (Shakes his head.)
      Pauw: Well, Deepak Kalpoe had stated that ‘her death was not good’?
      Witt.: One of your friends there…
      Joran: Yes, that uhhh… I don’t know either how that has went/gone (?) exactly… That’s something you should ask them.
      Pauw: Didn’t you ask that to them ever? Like: ‘What have you said now?’
      Joran: No (Unintelligible.)

      Anita takes him to a psychiatrist because he’s going to casinos and she don’t want her son in a casino and yet Paulus took him out to one on that night in question and ok’d him to go again the next night? Tutti Fruiti!

      Anita: And at that time he started playing poker in the casino and I don’t want my son being in the casino! So I contacted I youth-psychiatrist… He wasn’t 18 yet, he still was seventeen… He went there twice, that’s correct and we had one conlusive-conversation after that. And that was it… So it was really not just about lying…

      What a load.. Deepak said he said it and the prosecutor said he said it and Joran said he said it.

      Pauw: Did you at that point say to him: ‘as long as there is no body there is no case’?
      Paulus: No, I’ve never said that. That’s a term that you drop here now but…
      Pauw: It’s put in the book like this as well…

      He cheats on a gf and dumps one on the beach, called Natalee a slut and a lesbian, a bitch, lied about her repeatedly and yet he’s respectful towards women.

      Paulus: I have always seen the way Joran was with girls… He was not able to do that… I’m sure of that. He would, if anything would have happened to that girl, he would have acted accordingly.
      Witt.: Yes, let’s talk a minute how Joran was with girls… He’s in his book very frank about it… For him it apparently was or is easy to seduce girls… So easy that you can question yourself if it always happened with the decency that has to go with that proces in comparison with someone who has much more difficulties getting in contact with girls and is much more courteously. For example you don’t write very respectfully about Natalee…
      Joran: No… I am very respectfull towards girls. I have for example never pushed a girl (can’t hear it 100% right and don’t know what he means with that). Or did something wrong to a girl.
      Witt.: Well there was talk of “the bitch this” and “the bitch that”. And you hardly knew this girl and still you were intimate with her. And after that leaving her there alone? These are not things that proof you have high respects for women.

      Here he totally contradicts himself again..

      Joran: But you as well have to see that now that they had me convined again for these 16 days I was in full isolation… I wasn’t allowed to see anyone, to do anything, read a book, have contacts with others… And that to me was very frustrating. You are powerless against this… or say leave me alone or I walk away from it…
      Pauw: But how than is it possible that you knew that these two brothers were released?
      Joran: Well it’s a small prison. The womensprison had their court-yard close to my cell-window and from them you hear stuff… They told me what was in the newspapers…

      Gotta love this Paulus moment especially since JoeT said a few nights ago, Joran has been exonerated.. and his statement before he has proof Joran is innocent..

      Paulus: No. On the contrary… Now that the judge has decided that Joran is no longer a suspect… The day after that the OM came with the statement that he remains the person that they’re interested in. After two and a half year wherein all possible coercive means were executed. I cannot understand that. At that point in time, after for two and a half year sticking to someones tail the OM should have come to the conclusion that this person is not only no longer a suspect but he must be considerd innocent as well.
      Peter: Well if you come up with these kind of theories I am very glad that you didn’t manage to become a judge!

      Gotta love Anita questioning Peter’s word about the picture.. Wasn’t it her , who said her son don’t drink, smoke, no drugs.gamble for money.and they searched the house twice..

      Joran: Yes… I didn’t do it myself but it has off course been a joke. Yes it was a joke actually. And now you (looking at Peter) bring that up this way it indeed looks very strange… But the only way to get through all this is to sometimes make jokes about it. Because for me this whole thing often is ridiculus.
      Peter: Making fun about the victim?
      Witt.: Who photoshopped this picture?
      Joran: Yes… That is not important… I won’t mention any names here…
      Witt.: But not you?
      Joran: Not not by me.
      Witt.: So it was sent to you…
      Joran: Yes…
      Witt: … over the internet or something like that?
      Joran: Yes, I got it from someone I know and it was…
      Peter: And he (the other guy) even was payed for that… to do that…
      Witt.: By…?
      Joran: (Lifts shoulders… Questioning facial expression…)
      Peter: Yes… By…. He may say that…
      Witt.: By you?
      Joran: No! (Looking at Peter) Where did you get that idea?
      Peter: Well it was mentioned in the email in which I got the picture.
      Anita: But that person is not here at the table… We can’t ask him if it’s true what he said!?
      Peter: But I think you can believe me on my word missis / mam. (LOL)

    59. Eva on January 16th, 2008 6:43 pm

      Beth, I admire you so much! I lost my only daughter to suicide and I have literally made myself a prisoner in my own home. The depression is miserable for me. I cannot stand to go out and have people ask about her! You are so brave, I admire that Thank you for all you do in the memory of your beautiful Natalee She is and always be remembered. All my Love, EM

    60. Richard on January 16th, 2008 6:53 pm

      Now that Beth has appeared on the Oprah show, perhaps there will be enough pressure on our politicians to force them to decide that the disappearance of an American citizen overseas, and the subsequent obvious cover-up involving elements of that country’s government, justifies our government taking some interest.

      It’s a hope, anyways.

      I note that several people above invoked Beth’s comment about “something big” having happened on Aruba. Anyone want to keep in the back of their mind the idea that human trafficking was involved?

    61. chris on January 16th, 2008 7:15 pm

      I was anticipating a whole lot more from Oprah’s show, but it is still good enough that the word stay out there. I can’t believe that anyone above the age of 10 doesn’t know by now who is responsible for Natalee’s demise. I also can’t imagine that anyone anywhere would give a job, any job to the murdering, sociopath Joran.

      Carpe, I can’t make up my mind whether you just have a warped mind or are simply brilliant , but I suspect both, so never ever leave this site. We all love what you come up with all the time.
      I hope I speak for all but the trolls here?

    62. CapslockWizard on January 16th, 2008 8:11 pm

      Urgent Urgent
      Some American is comming forth with new Info on the Desapearing of Natalalie on TV right now

    63. CapslockWizard on January 16th, 2008 8:13 pm

      it os on

      is is very damaging and it is about a different twist.

      Watch it every one

      SM: These people are liars. The audio was already posted at ArubaZone. (klaasend)

    64. CapslockWizard on January 16th, 2008 8:16 pm

      {{edit – this is NOT TRUE- and they are NOT friends}}
      It is an american friend from USA.
      SM: Please don’t post any more of these lies from Aruba. These people are psychics – they are nuts. (klaasend)

    65. ofir on January 16th, 2008 8:19 pm

      please checkout the song natalee also read the lyrics i’ve written this song for her family click on natalee
      thank you

    66. CapslockWizard on January 16th, 2008 8:20 pm

      Klaasend it is live right now
      SM: Yes, I was watching it. It’s BS – there’s a reason nobody in the USA listened to them. They are psychics and not friends of the Holloway/Twitty family. (klaasend)

    67. CapslockWizard on January 16th, 2008 8:25 pm

      klaasend: he have a lot of info and names on what has happend including the ministers. The person is a man with his arms are full of Tattoo and a woman with a tatoo on her right shoulder.

      his names is: garry

      Now this is a strange twist on the case.
      SM: Not a strange twist just another lie. Don’t you wonder why they would go on TV now? (klaasend)

    68. CapslockWizard on January 16th, 2008 8:40 pm

      klassend: these people and Garry Young and some lady.

      These folks are from an Idian tribe that come forth with damaging info on Beth Twitty.

      Tey have mention a web site but it seems not to exist.

      commmnet please via email, do you know these people.

      I was not in Aruba when this case has happend but they seems to blame Beth…

    69. buster on January 16th, 2008 8:48 pm

      # 24 THAT’S IT !!! They stashed Natalee’s body where no one would ever look !!! Up anitas s***** {{edit}}

    70. Meee on January 16th, 2008 8:50 pm

      Just saw the Oprah show on TV. It’s great that Oprah put Beth on. But it really does no good. Why? Because there is no outrage involved with the show. No talk of what transpired in Aruba. No talk of the players and what they did. No talk of Aruba covering up the case. America viewed the show and felt bad for Beth. But that’s the emotional extent of the show. They needed people to hear the truth and get mad. That didn’t happen. I don’t know if Beth wasn’t allowed to. But Beth needs to lose the Zen thing. It hurts her quest for the truth. She isn’t gonna many opportunities like this. And in reality it was wasted

    71. kayjay on January 16th, 2008 9:04 pm

      Well let’s try again..last post went into cyberspace!
      Just saw Beth on Oprah, WCTime. Very gentle interview. Was a bit disappointed. Always seems Beth is so guarded about what she says. I would have thought she’d have mentioned her Safe Travel Org. and thanked the folks on board the Persistence for all their efforts. In fact she said very little of substance.
      Is the family still hoping for cooperation/information concerning the case…I wonder?
      SM: Beth is not in charge of the Oprah show, I’m sure she was only given so much time to speak. (klaasend)

    72. Richard on January 16th, 2008 9:10 pm

      Well, I can’t speak about how Beth did on the show, not having seen it. But keeping Natalee’s name out there is good.

      For the rest of us, let’s do what we can to KEEP Americans fighting mad … and determined never to give a penny to Aruba by tourism.

      One way to do this: show up at every event that Aruba Tourism Authority hosts in this country.

    73. mommytraveler on January 16th, 2008 9:49 pm

      Marion Jones made some comments appropriate to those involved in Natalee’s disappearance. She said: YOU CAN’T GO ON LYING TO THE WORLD – THE BAGGAGE IS JUST TOO HEAVY.

      Did you hear that — Joran, Paulus, Deepak, Satish, Anita and everyone else who is lying and withholding information.


    74. JusticeforNatalee on January 16th, 2008 10:05 pm

      Beth’s book was mentioned on Oprah, so
      that will get a LOT of people to buy Loving Natalee.

      Once they read the book, people will know more about the corruption involved in the case.

    75. JusticeforNatalee on January 16th, 2008 10:10 pm


      Geez, Louise. Maybe you need to pay more attention to those doubts you had.

      After coddling Joran, do you have any time or energy left for Valentijn and Sebastian?

      Isn’t it lovely the way Joran made a fool of you by
      throwing wine in Peter’s face? Joran doesn’t even
      appreciate your efforts.

      Wake up, Anita.

    76. JusticeforNatalee on January 16th, 2008 10:11 pm

      Arubazone must want to be sued.

    77. MBS on January 16th, 2008 10:38 pm

      Did they play the tape of the wine throwing incident on Oprah? I was hoping they would, I missed the show.

    78. 10061906 on January 16th, 2008 11:18 pm

      eva 59:
      And I’m sure you have some good memories of your daughter.
      I’m sure it was not your fault, so why torture yourself? You can always second guess what could have been done. Nothing you can do will ever change what happened with your daughter.
      When people ask, tell them the good memories.
      Not having that happen to me; I can only feel sympathy and condolences.
      Do something good for Natalee in your daughter’s memory. It will help you and Beth.

    79. mayan_moons on January 16th, 2008 11:54 pm

      Oprah was very kind to Beth & Matt & though all of the horrific details weren’t discussed on air you can rest assured that Oprah is touched and informed by what Aruban’s did to Natalee or she’d have never had them on the show to begin with.

      HEY my page keeps refreshing on its own all evening…..HELP!

    80. Kat_Gram on January 17th, 2008 12:21 am

      I watched Oprah. I liked the show, tried to get to her message board, but messed up joining somehow. The other posters on her board seemed to be in attack mode. Why, who knows, crazy people. But Oprah’s viewership is huge, and I liked that fact.

    81. minnesota dad on January 17th, 2008 12:58 am


      The other posters are paid AHATA shills. There has been a crisis management PR firm involved with this case from almost the beginning.

      Anytime anything heats up on line these folks come on line to spread disinformation. I have repeatedly asked these folks about the ‘definition of conflict of interest’ on rape island and have only been met with silence.

      They are all covering for Paulus Van Der Sloot’s crimes.

      Please understand, when a grocery chain’s meat is bad; when a CEO of a company does something stupid, when a jumbo jet crashes, they ALL hire crisis management PR firms to deal with getting them out of their problem as painlessly as possible. We saw Steve Cohen come out as the spokesman early on, but he disappeared when he was being exposed as a paid shill. Aruba has hired a crisis management PR firm to attempt to dampen the blow of covering up a rape and murder on rape island.


    82. yoyo muffintop on January 17th, 2008 1:13 am

      #81 Mn Dad – you are correct about the PR firm. You can say the name though – it’s not a secret.
      Quinn & Company. But they didn’t have to hire them, they were already under contract to provide that service if need be…which they did.

      #76 – you haven’t been sued yet for making unfounded accusation so I think arubazone is ok. But hey ya’ never know.
      Anyway…truth is an absolute defense to any and all claims of slander, and without any way of determining the truth to the claims a suit would be hard to win.

    83. nurturer on January 17th, 2008 1:29 am

      #33 – Salami and bacon.

    84. windy city on January 17th, 2008 1:47 am

      yoyo, If I ever get into a jam, you’re hired!

      Any chance of you answering MD’s posts about the obvious conflicts of interest in Arooba?

    85. Helen Back on January 17th, 2008 1:54 am

      # 83 nurturer! LOL

    86. Helen Back on January 17th, 2008 1:59 am

      NO NO YO YO! #82….

      I think the PR firm Minnesota Dad #81 is referring to is:

      Strategic Message Design Group Inc. is a strategic communications, advertising and public affairs firm specializing in political and corporate communications and crisis management. Through our sister company Cohen DiLella Broadcast Group we offer clients strategic planning for the acquisition and operation of broadcast properties. We also create and produce entertainment, news and business to business programming, on all media platforms for worldwide distribution.

      The Principals of SMDG, Robert DiLella and Stephen Cohen forged their skills in the pressure cooker of political campaigns (Oduber) and newsrooms where deadlines are impossible and outcomes are unforgiving.

      Remember Steve Cohen? He disappeared too!

    87. Arubian on January 17th, 2008 2:01 am

      U poor poor souls, America has more people disappearance’s, corruption and cruelties going on than most other nations. And u wine about us(arubans) being corrupted and so for. Please, be real..stop criticizing others, and live on. Just because she has money, and is white?? otherwise u would not even care. We arubans gave all our resources we had to help out finding nathaly, even money out off our own pockets. And even so u criticize ??. Shame on u…ooh Shame on u…When the truth comes out, i hope u all who said nasty things about Aruba apologize. U heave really much to learn…i feel really sorry for u..and again, may Allah bless u for real…(no terrorist thread)
      may he open your minds and eyes. Salem Malekom


      boom (again no terrorist thread, just my saying)

    88. yoyo muffintop on January 17th, 2008 2:21 am

      Helen: Quite possible SMDG was hired and they had a dual front going – Quinn in the states and SMDG in aruba.

      a snippet (very early on):
      “New York firm Quinn & Co. has dispatched PR staffers to the Caribbean Island of Aruba, where the disappearance of an 18-year-old Alabama student has captivated media.”

      windy – not a chance in answering. Like others I haven’t a clue how the dutch/aruba system works in regards to conflicts of interest. It’s a foreign country…it’s foreign.
      Heck, I’ve never even been to aruba nor do I plan on going.

    89. yoyo muffintop on January 17th, 2008 2:24 am

      “Salem Malekom” – dude, you got to be able to spell it right before you make it “just your saying”. lol.

    90. Jodi on January 17th, 2008 2:28 am

      #87 You have got to be kidding me. Don’t forget who falsely arrested the black security guards and remember who it was that demanded they be released. Is that really the bs that they spoon feed you over there in aruba? I really pity you.
      This is even more reason to boycott the hell out of that rock!


    91. JusticeforNatalee on January 17th, 2008 2:31 am

      #87 Shame on YOU.


    92. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 2:37 am

      Beth & Matt,

      Great O. interview, you looked great! Matt,

      it was so nice to see what ya look like, finally.

      Man, oh man… you look so much like your pop!

    93. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 2:45 am

      Ladies & Gentmanzzzzz,

      Check this one out! If we don’t jail

      him, he’s going to go right back and

      kill all over again. GUARANTEED. There

      will be more Natalee Anns coming down

      the pike. Feel the fury, feel the rage!



    94. yoyo muffintop on January 17th, 2008 2:58 am

      SMDG – interesting that one of their clients is the Palm Beach Civic Association.
      So anyway – maybe it was AHTA(SMDG) handling the media in aruba with ATA(Quinn & Co) making sure the US tourists keep coming. Some would say one did a lousy job and one did an ok job(but tough to measure). Not that it really means anything in the grand scheme of things, but interesting and possible, no?

    95. Ray on January 17th, 2008 3:00 am

      Go back under your ROCK on your Slim Ball island. We dont need you here. If I was from aruba I would be ashamed of it.

    96. buster on January 17th, 2008 3:10 am

      #87 I am sorry !!! I am truly sorry !!! That I ever herd of the scummy island of aruba

    97. Ray on January 17th, 2008 3:26 am

      May global warming sink aruba beneath the waves of the sea.


    98. 10061906 on January 17th, 2008 8:27 am

      87: and how much came out of your pocket?

    99. 10061906 on January 17th, 2008 8:29 am

      87: according to Curley it is pronounced
      “show em I like em.”

    100. Vicki on January 17th, 2008 9:41 am

      Did anyone notice the picture Oprahs ppl showed of SATANS SPAWN? He looked soooooooooooooo EVIL…the slimy snake….Im sure everyone who watched Oprahs show, saw how disgustingly sick he is…also on the Peter DV wine insident…when URINE threw the wine his freakin sweaty papa laughed…why would you laugh???hes as demented as his slob of a son….Come to BOSTON at the end of Febuary….Be the voice of NATALEE…

    101. Bob on January 17th, 2008 10:24 am

      LOL!!!!! Absolutely totally amazing. The Mrs. went out to Bingo last night, when she returned, she said: “Bob, do you know what the women at the table behind me were talking about? No, what? They were talking about that Natalee segment on Oprah today.” I burst out laughing. “Really? What was the gist?” “They said they wouldn’t ever go there, they wouldn’t feel safe”.

      LOL, that makes it official Monkeys! The Bingo ladies are now BOYCOTTING Aruba too. I’d bet that’s being said ALL OVER AMERICA. God I love it.

    102. Bob on January 17th, 2008 10:38 am

      Ordinary people

      Ordinary people watch Oprah, ordinary people shop in super markets and talk, ordinary people belong to clubs, ordinary people play bingo, and watch TV specials, read papers, etc.

      Ordinary people are TALKING about the Natalee case – everywhere – and they are unnamimously changing their minds about vacation destination plans. Aruba as a possibility is OUT. Finished. Kaput. The Bahamas, Bermuda, and dozens of OTHER Islands are the choice. Ordinary people are the silent but important majority. Aruba killed itself and is now the laughing stock of the world.

    103. Bob on January 17th, 2008 11:50 am

      Parry & thrust

      It dosen’t affect or bother anyone that a few paid and several free-lance trolls are popping up to bash the Natalee travesty thread. Fighting back & forth with supporters/bashers here is a natural pastime of the internet. These trolls have no effect at all. It’s the silent majority of Americans, Canadians, others who don’t post messages on threads like these who make the greater impact. They sit in their homes, and their desks, and in their cars thinking about where to plan for a vacation spot for themselves and their families. As they think of Islands, they recall TV ads, others recommendations, print ads, etc. When Aruba comes to mind…..they recall the coverage of a young girl, drugged, raped, and killed. They see a grieving family who were insulted by sneer-faced officials who obviously did NOTHING. Then, they go to the next destination…..

      Americans, and others have a CHOICE……No ARUBA. Not now, not in the future, not ever.

    104. Miklo on January 17th, 2008 12:43 pm

      Because of SM’s “heads up” I watched Oprah’s show yesterday.

      Beth looked beautiful. She conducted herself very, very well. Her son also did a fantastic job, very poised. She explained her connection with John Ramsay, and the delicate subject of their friendship very well too.
      Grace under pressure.

      Consider Beth’s deportment and contrast it with throwing wine in an interviewer’s face!
      The cream rises to the top.

    105. Miklo on January 17th, 2008 12:46 pm


      Anyone who thinks this case is over, need only count the entries (so far) on this subject. THIS will be #105! And the day is still young.

      Sorry kidz, but this subject is STILL hot!!

      This is not “going away”…

      Aruba should just deal responsibly with this matter. That will be the ONLY remedy for bringing permanent closure!!!!!!!!!

    106. Miss-Underestimated on January 17th, 2008 12:57 pm

      104. Yes, given the contrast between the two families….

      It is no wonder why there is no one on the beach today.

      Beth was fantastic and Matt what a gentleman. I pray there is closure soon for them.

      Do you think any future interviews with Joran will have wine at the table? Gosh, just think if they set the table for a full dinner and there were knives?

      I hope Peter gets Joran for assault.

      Mr. Dompig… have not escaped the circle of this case….your words are forever in infamy….
      “these boys are guilty of something”

    107. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 1:06 pm
    108. Helen Back on January 17th, 2008 1:21 pm

      #94 YO YO:

      Do you think that’s why it was so easy for Jorge Pesquera to slither away from AHATA and over to the Palm Beach County Tourism position? Apparently, his resume boasts of the tremendous job he did in handling the tough PR and blow to tourism brought on Aruba by Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.

    109. brie on January 17th, 2008 1:21 pm

      I guess that was Joran’s grand exit from TV interviews…sure left us with a final impression of his character….a true confession of his uncontrolled temper….and Paulus seemed rather amused by the whole thing, he just stood there and laughed, not even attempted to help. The burning alcohol was enough but what it that had been steaming hot coffee.

      I hope Peter doesn’t let him get away with that!! He called Joran a liar and that he truly is…there are documents of approximately 23 lies.

    110. yoyo muffintop on January 17th, 2008 2:00 pm

      #108 – I wouldn’t use the word “slither” but based off SMDG/Cohen’s client list they appear to be dialed in to Palm Beach. I have no way of knowing but I bet it didn’t hurt his chance at getting that gig.

    111. Richard on January 17th, 2008 2:40 pm

      Meanwhile, here’s another case in the Caribbean:

      Conn. man missing while on vacation in British Virgin Islands
      Jan 16, 2008 @ 12:57 PM
      Hartford, Conn. –
      A Connecticut man was reported missing while vacationing in the British Virgin Islands, police said.

      Benjamin Wu, 29, of Middletown was last seen Saturday walking along Long Bay Beach in Tortola, police said.

      There was no indication of foul play, said Jim Sandler, a Hartford lawyer and friend. He said the concern was Wu might have fallen into the water while climbing or hiking. Wu was a fearless hiker but could not swim, friends said.

      Wu was due to leave Monday. Police said they have worked with British Virgin Island Customs and the U.S. Coast Guard to conduct an extensive search in the Long Bay and surrounding areas.

      Wu books bands for the Webster Theatre, a small concert venue in Hartford, and was staying with other theater employees at the home of Justine Robertson, who owns the Webster.

      “We’ve spent every waking minute, every waking second with this,” Robertson said

    112. Richard on January 17th, 2008 2:42 pm

      I’d be interested in hearing what Matt had to say.
      He’s never been in the public eye, as far as I know, and I feel a bit ambivalent about his going on the show, though it’s none of my business.

      In the absence of a transcript of the show, can anyone sketch a general picture of what he was asked, and what he had to say? Thanks.

      Knowing Beth and Dave to the limited extent that I do, I’m sure that the CLASS in Matt’s upbringing was shining through. A greater contrast to the scum of Aruba cannot be imagined.

    113. Richard on January 17th, 2008 2:44 pm

      I wonder where that reptile Steve Cohen is today. He certainly doesn’t seem to be talking about his time in Aruba … my belief was always that he was chosen as a PR rep for that vile regime because they thought he’d be more convincing to Americans than the Aruban scum.

    114. Buskaruba on January 17th, 2008 3:03 pm

      Did all of you heard the news?? probaly not..

      Justice will be served FOR ARUBA now..

      Betty the news is going worldwide..
      i would think again about the boycott..

      Justice for Aruba… to be continued…
      SM: Of course we heard the news. We listenened to ArubaZone and watched Telearuba. So you think these two NUT lying psychics repeating their BS that was originally in Aruban papers back in April 2006 is going to bring justice to Aruba? What it’s going to do is make Aruba and Aruban’s look even MORE foolish than they did before. This will be another nail in Aruba’s tourism coffin. (klaasend)

    115. nurturer on January 17th, 2008 3:29 pm

      #87 – Hey Arubian, Salami and Bacon!

    116. Capslockwizard on January 17th, 2008 4:12 pm

      Klaasend: in your forum: shango & Sim….last post…something about the whitehouse…in 2006

    117. Capslockwizard on January 17th, 2008 4:18 pm

      klassend: page 41 shanho/simian: Whitehouse.

      there is where they have gone because it is one of the 3 location to go and this place is special … it is in my report.

      everyone is going over there since the 1998.
      SM: Yeah, noticed that this morning…very interresting and agrees with your info. By the way, I approved you for posting in the forum a while back with the nickname capslockwizard. You should have received an email but sometimes that doesn’t happen (klaasend)

    118. Capslockwizard on January 17th, 2008 4:20 pm

      klassend or Red: any news form BT?

    119. Maggie on January 17th, 2008 4:47 pm

      #87 You are the poorer soul, comparing a country of 300 million against a country with less than 100,000. If you have a problem with a place here being corrupt and all the conflicts of interest in a case like this one has, bring it on,, I don’t mind if you boycott, I would more than likely join you .
      One less sociopath on the street is a win, win situation for everyone.

      It is your country who asks for tourism from ours, not vice versa. If you can’t see the complete and utter lack of professionalism handed to Natalee’s family by those in power and the ones who have been paid to go out and spread absolute total lies about her family and Natalee’s character, you must be living in a cave.

      I can only think of one reason why 3 guys would go out at closing time and move in on 1 intoxicated’s a hint,,,it’s not to forget a condom and leave her sitting on a beach,because she wants to be alone. Here’s another hint…they talked of picking up American girls and what they planned to do to them. Here’s another one,, the fact the girl is dead is not good.. Here’s another one I can’t tell you on the phone what happened, because I don’t want you to get in trouble.. Here’s another one acting weird and making and getting lots of phone calls next day at school. The list gets 6 miles long after that.. Sometime when you have more time..please explain to me how a person walks home and yet is picked up by Satish and taken home, at the same time. Anita?

      BuskAruba…didn’t hear the news and not gonna listen..Anything to do with Renfro and her group don’t interest me in the least. They wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the head with a lead ball.

    120. Miklo on January 17th, 2008 5:42 pm

      A comment here, a comment there…

      But the switchboard LIGHTS UP when the subject is Natalee Holloway and Aruba!!

      This story is still HOT. We’re not going away!!!
      We want to know what happend. Who is responsible.
      And where she is… NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    121. JusticeforNatalee on January 17th, 2008 5:44 pm


      First of all, lay off Beth. Don’t even attempt to threaten her.

      Second of all, stop the idiotic comments.
      The perps and Aruban officials are to blame for the boycott, not Beth.

      Aruba is denying an American citizen justice, so don’t expect
      Americans to come to your island.

      These latest hideous lies just make Beth and Natalee supporters more determined. The sheer stupidity of the Beth haters backfires every time.



    122. Miklo on January 17th, 2008 5:46 pm

      We are ready to find Natalee, and NOW!!!!!

      Her family has been patient. They have stayed with this… We Americans are behind them all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    123. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 5:48 pm

      Buskaruba on January 17th, 2008 3:03 pm

      Did all of you heard the news??

      No sorry I aren’t being to hear ed it. You illiterate silly little mouse tit.

      > 2 words for you:



    124. George Bush on January 17th, 2008 6:06 pm

      PPL U ALL GO GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

      SM: If you guessed this person is posting from ARUBA would would be correct! (klaasend)

    125. LilPuma on January 17th, 2008 7:08 pm

      I’d like to state the obvious in case some have forgotten. Natalee Holloway disappearing in Aruba is not the reason for the boycott. It’s Aruba’s response to Natalee Holloway disappearing in Aruba. Son of a Judge, botched investigation, conflicts of interest, trashing the victim, the family of the victim, and Americans in general. Aruba continues to show America (and others following this case) what really matters to them (tourism $$$, not tourists) and how low they will stoop to make themselves appear blameless when faced with their flaws.

    126. mommytraveler on January 17th, 2008 7:21 pm

      George – Gee whiz, no wonder 21 million people watch her show. Don’t even think she missed the 100,000 on Aruba.

    127. Arubaanse on January 17th, 2008 7:49 pm

      Hi monkeys!! long time no hear ( sorry, i’ve been very busy)

      Don’t listen to those ignorant Arubans. Shame on you guys to come here and bash Beth. You guys are problably still in high school even my 11 year sister knows more than you guys!

    128. Rick on January 17th, 2008 8:10 pm

      Sr Dan Young y Sra Kelly Castillo Maybe you should check this out. Haven’t heard anything about them. Look it up. VERY interesting

    129. brie on January 17th, 2008 8:12 pm

      To all the hate people that live in caves….send your comments to your friend Joran van der Sloot…their not welcome or appreciated here.

    130. Arubaanse on January 17th, 2008 8:16 pm

      Hi klaasend!

      Can tell me something about those two americans? I heard this news about 2 americans claiming to know about Natalee. I don’t believe that at all. Sorry.. i kinda behind right now:( I need to catch up.

      Take care
      SM: Hi Arubaanse! They are psychic nuts that tried to get Beth to pay them to use their psychic abilities to find information about Natalee. All this same BS was published in Aruban papers (Diario/Bondia) back in April 2006 so it’s not new just a bunch of BS. Everyone has dismissed their information as lies and BS including the prosecutors office. My guess is someone in Aruba is paying them to appear on TV now. Someone must be affraid the ocean search will indeed find Natalee’s body. Here’s a link to the April 2006 article in Bondia. Scroll down to “New tips on the Natalee Holloway case continue to come in”: (klaasend)

    131. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 8:23 pm

      Hi Arubaanse,

      >Hope all is well with u!

      To that flamin a$$ that is dissin’ Oprah…

      You are a dolt!

      Oprah is A hardworking, self made woman.

      She has helped more people all over the world

      than your entire family will meet over a lifetime.

      Success & class are color blind. Apparently,

      these are 2 things you need read up on.

    132. brie on January 17th, 2008 8:25 pm

      Hi Arubaanse…thanks for stopping by, it’s always good to hear from you. We all admire and respect Beth. None of Natalee’s family have ever spoken badly about the residents of Aruba. Everyone’s problem is with the ALE and the Aruban authorities but I’m sure you already know that. Thanks for the comment to those of ignorance.

    133. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 8:49 pm
    134. resolution on January 17th, 2008 10:26 pm

      I personally do not think the anti-Beth/pro Aruba statements warrant a response. This is all they want – need a feed. Juvenile behavior….hmmmm…wonder who THAT could be!

    135. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 10:36 pm

      Isn’t it lovely the way Joran made a fool of you by throwing wine in Peter’s face?


      Peter was friggin pissed, Joran

      didn’t even let him small the

      cork first! :lol:


    136. Carpe Noctem on January 17th, 2008 10:39 pm

      smell, rather!

      doh, I botched it!!!

    137. disgustedmom on January 18th, 2008 12:06 am

      Please stop calling those morons Psychics. They are not psychics. They are jerks!

      Not that Joran or any of his fan club would understand this, but I’m going to say it anyway….imagine a mother who can’t help her child when her child needs her more than ever before. A mother who has been there for her child through sickness and normal frustrations of life, all nothing compared to what Natalee faced in her final hours with no one there who loved her. I believe, as I think Beth does as well, (could be wrong about that) that Natalee was still alive when Beth got to Aruba. Do you KNOW how horrible that must feel for Beth that she was not able to help her daughter? LAY OFF THE MOTHER! She is and will always be suffering for what a bunch of heartless jerks did, so there is no need to be so cold toward her in any way.

    138. mayan_moons on January 18th, 2008 1:02 am

      Yeah lay off the mother of Natalee… really got to me to see Beth cry yesterday. Knowing you’ll never see someone you love so much again is gut wrenching pain. I know that even though my mother died in her sleep at the age of 78 it’s like a part of you has been ripped out of your body. So when i think of sweet Natalee and the way she was targeted and treated in her final moments it makes me soo sad…..and DAMN MAD TOO!
      The situations are different of course but atleast my mother died peacefully not being treated like a piece of meat by those bastards of Aruba.

      Beth….i love you

    139. brie on January 18th, 2008 2:47 am

      #138…it got to me to Mayan, I cried right along with her.

    140. JusticeforNatalee on January 18th, 2008 2:50 am

      Hi, Arubaanse!

      Great to hear from you!

    141. brie on January 18th, 2008 2:57 am

      Joran being a suspect was probably trying somewhat to stay out of trouble…now that he is free from being a suspect watch out…. look what he just recently did to Peter. Didn’t take long! He got away with knowing what happened and didn’t have to tell .

    142. Betsy on January 18th, 2008 4:56 am

      Is it just me or does it look like Paulus has gained a lot of weight (all concentrated in his belly which increases heart disease risk) since he’s been covering for his little sporter Joran the rapist murderer? It could be self-destructive behavior from extreme guilt.

      Anita’s been a fat slob since day 1 but Paulus is definitely packing on the pounds. I’d say around 20 kilos right where heart disease gets your number.

      Too bad!

      Strap on your 2×4 tonight Paulus. I heard Anita’s in the mood.

    143. Bob on January 18th, 2008 9:25 am

      Shouldn’t help come from everyside???

      While the Persistence was searching last night, they received a call from the “Port of Aruba Authorities” who announced a sailboat was lost, and apparantly foundering someplace ‘out there’. The Persistence pulled up their sonar equipment and headed off in the direction of Aruba’s indication. Later, the sailboat was not found, and Persistence stopped for the night, heading back into port.

      Just goes to show that Americans will help find and recover lost people, while Aruban officials never lifted a useful finger to help find Natalee.

      Aruba won’t be judged by me posting on this thread, but by God one day. That’s the payback that’s really going to mean something.

    144. yvonne on February 8th, 2008 1:19 am


    145. Felicia Warhurst on May 10th, 2011 10:12 am

      What kind of mother would allow her young daughter to go on a trip like this?Aruba is one of the places where teens(that don’t have good parents)and young adults go to booze it up and be promiscuous.If you allow your daughter to go to this or any of the other spring break type destinations then don’t be surprized if they are raped or murdered or have a date rape drug put in their drink or at the very least drink too much and hang out at the beach or pool side where creeps like Vandersloot will be checking them out and wanting to take advantage.Beth Holloway should understand what her part was in all of this.She was a poor parent then and now she is trying to profit from whgat happened.
      SM: So sad that you would attack a victim and the victims family. Speaks volumes of you. You know what another destineation is, as per what you said above … COLLEGE. How dare parents allows their children go to college. The shame.

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