What Now in the Bahamas? Billy Wayne Smith Hires Attorney to Exhume his Son’s body (Exclusive)


Just when you thought things could not get any stranger? We have just learned the following from Larry Garrison of SilverCreek Entertainment, The NewsBreaker, that Billy Wayne Smith, the father of Daniel Smith who passed away from a drug overdose while visiting his mother in the Bahamas, has hired an attorney in the Bahamas to have his son’s body exhumed and brought back to Texas to be buried.

The circus continues. How is this going shake things up as Anna Nicole Smith’s funeral is supposed to tomorrow. Anna Nicole Smith stated she wanted to be buried next to son. What if his body is exhumed and moved to Texas?


EXCLUSIVE STORY PRIOR TO TMZ.COM … thank you for the attribution of a story provided to you. Oh, sorry … you neglected to provide one … NICE.



The Chief Magistrate Roger Gomez
Coroner of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas
P.O. Box N-167
Nassau, New Providence

Dear Sir,
        RE: Request to Exhume the body of Daniel Wayne Smith, (Deceased)
               Date of Birth: 22nd January, 1986
               Date of Death: 10th September, 2006
        We act on behalf of Mr. Billy Smith of Limestone County Texas, one of the States of the United States of America. Mr. Billy Smith is the father and next of king of Daniel Wayne Smith (Deceased).
        We have been instructed and hereby formally request permission to have the remains of Daniel Wayne Smith (deceased) exhumed from its current location here in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas and to be transferred where his father and family resides in the State of Texas.
        As you are aware Daniel Wayne Smith (deceased) died within the Commonwealth of the Bahamas on the 10th day of September A.D., 2006. We are cognizant that the coroner’s inquest will begin sometime this month as the cause of death has not been determined. However we humbly as [sic] that you consider this formal request.
        Kindly acknowledge this formal request by signing, sealing and returning the enclosed copy to our chambers.
                                                Yours faithfully,
                                                THE FIRM
                                                Kara S.P. Butler

UPDATE: TMZ reader … please note that this is an “as is” cut & paste doc. Any misspellings are they way it was received. We do not spell check info received, that would be altering an original source. Don’t kill the messenger although attribution would have been expected and appreciated.

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  • Comments

    77 Responses to “What Now in the Bahamas? Billy Wayne Smith Hires Attorney to Exhume his Son’s body (Exclusive)”

    1. Tess on March 1st, 2007 8:11 pm

      So what now, are they gonna exhume Anna when she’s buried and have her buried in Texas, where her mother wanted her to begin with, after all Howard …thats where Anna would have liked is to be beside her son.

    2. Patti on March 1st, 2007 8:30 pm

      Way to go, Billy!

      Go get em!

      Who wants their son buried, what must seem, on the other side of the earth? It’s about time someone exert their rights! Daniel was your son, too.

      And… for those that want to believe everything that Anna says about her family, the truth is ~ Daniel lived with his father the majority of his life, in Texas, with his grandmother close by.

    3. Scared Monkeys on March 1st, 2007 8:42 pm

      #1 Who knows TESS

      We are just the messenger in this 3 ring circus.


    4. december_star on March 1st, 2007 9:19 pm

      Why now? I mean how long has Daniel been in the Bahamas? If he really had a problem with it why didn’t he do something about it sooner? Seems like we have a new contestant with $$ in his eyes. Let mother and son RIP already.

    5. Michele on March 1st, 2007 9:45 pm

      Why are there typos in this request. Next of “king”?? instead of kin. It seems odd.

    6. Scared Monkeys on March 1st, 2007 9:45 pm

      Hey Monkeys … check this out.

      TMZ.com was given this tip by Scared Monkeys and they are claiming it as their own with no attribution.


      Feel free to go there and make a comment telling them what you think of their ethics is taking people’s stories.


      Never again will we provide anything to these fools.

    7. mel on March 1st, 2007 9:53 pm

      this must be the work of virgi and that dirtbag lawyer of hers john oquinn to get him to say this.. her lawyer is a disgrace to the profession…he will try anything to get a chance to go after the marshall estate money. The only way he can do this is through dirty dealings with the ex husband and with vergie, who anyone can see is in it for the money.They are all scum.

    8. Alexis on March 1st, 2007 10:22 pm

      Seriously, this is just sick. Daniel’s father had not been involved in his life for years and years. Now all of a sudden he’s the concerned father and wants his son moved to Texas? Puhleeze. I’d bet my last dollar that Virgie is behind this latest disgusting ploy as one final slap to her daughter. She was obviously pissed that she didn’t get to bury Anna where she knew Anna didn’t want to be buried so this is the next best thing. Daniel’s father has had almost six months to file this request if he’d really wanted to before now. I hope the judge laughs this right out of the court and fines the attorneys involved for wasting the court’s time. No wonder Anna wanted to get away from them!! What white trash they are.

    9. Jerry from Ohio on March 1st, 2007 10:24 pm

      If this request comes to pass and I also noticed the typos and am wondering about the validity of the document.
      But if it is real and the father has Danial brought to Texas as his final resting place then we will see really and finally what type of a man This Howard K Stern is and what he asks the guardian ad Litem to do as to Annas wish that she be buried beside Danial In my opinion I don’t think that HKS has the integrity to do this. Sorry but I just keep thinking that when they are all finally buried that some police work will surface and they will take HKS into custody for some felony charge.

    10. nayslove on March 1st, 2007 10:26 pm

      Hey there #2…Ole Billy boy said “under oath” that he hadn’t seen Daniel since 1988. He also said that he had neither the funds nor the inclination (in smaller words though) that he wouldn’t move Daniel. This reeks of Virgie and Co. What a bunch of twisted pretzels! Shakespeare had it right when he said “First let’s kill all the lawyers”!

    11. Scared Monkeys on March 1st, 2007 10:31 pm


      I would agree, its hard to believe that Billy has the ways and means to accomplish this.

      There has to be a straw man


    12. Scared Monkeys on March 1st, 2007 10:35 pm

      To those coming over from TMZ reading the letter …


      Mr. Billy Smith is the father and next of king of Daniel Wayne Smith (Deceased).

      This is how the doc was sent. Rude comments regarding the fact that we misspelled it will be deleted. This is the actual version that was sent, as is.

      Don’t kill the messenger. Although it would have been appreciated and ethical if TMZ.com had actually sourced the messenger.


    13. Bodo on March 1st, 2007 10:37 pm

      I wonder how many citizens of the Bahamas, especially those in the judiciary resolving disputes and controversies, are already cursing the day this woman set foot on their shores?

    14. rotten little baby on March 1st, 2007 10:55 pm

      Nice scoop! And really lousy of TMZ not to even link to you! May their server crash!

      The Death of ANS isn’t just a circus, it’s a THREE RING circus. And speaking of not having any ethics, I just saw that medical-examiner-turned-pundit Dr Perper on Fox News again. Is he angling for a tv show, too, like Judge Larry Sideshow?

      Perper was telling Gretta von Susteren what sort of dress ANS was wearing for her viewing. What the hell business does he have telling von Susteren or anybody else what sort of dress the corpse he was charged with performing an autopsy on was wearing during her viewing?

    15. Michele on March 1st, 2007 11:07 pm

      In response to #12 – just because you don’t like what someone said does not mean you should censor the comments. Ever heard of freedom of speech. I was not implying you made it up – I was just implying the document was not very professional which is what you would expect from a legal document.

    16. Richard on March 1st, 2007 11:24 pm

      One almost hopes that some kind of retribution awaits those who are rushing around exhuming all of these bodies. It seems offensive to any notion of decency.

    17. whytegirl on March 1st, 2007 11:38 pm


      The funny thing is, I found out through you first because I am an avid reader of TMZ. Then I went there and read everything and most of the comments, then came back here and it hit me. No credit…baaad boyyyzzz!!!!!! That was not nice of Harvey’s staff.

    18. Patti on March 2nd, 2007 12:31 am

      #10 ~ I read a long time ago that Daniel lived with his father. I’ll look for the articles, many of them are archived.

      But, if I were you, I would expect to see alot of Ole Billy Boy, he is currently the legal heir to Anna’s fortune. Remember: Anna left Daniel everything. He was her sole beneficiary. She even excluded any future children from her estate. Ole Billy Boy is Daniel’s legal next of kin, or king, whichever you prefer.



      Freedom of speech? That’s singing to the choir. Good job
      being in the loop. Someone must like your comments.

    19. december_star on March 2nd, 2007 12:53 am

      No matter what kind of joke we make of ourselves in life, we are still human beings. No one knows the right way to live, and we all believe that the way we live “is right.” Therefor we should all be respected for living true to ourselves. Because it is true to our-self. That is how I feel Anna lived (ridiculous as some may find it), and that is how she should be treated in “life” after death. She made the decision to bury Daniel in the Bahamas, and would obviously want to be next to him. Let it rest at that. Respect the dead, no matter how they lived and give them peace. That is all anyone would ask for themselves. In no way should either of them be moved, and those seeking that removal should look at their own lives and contemplate their true reasoning. Money or love. Money …move them, Love let them be.

    20. Patti on March 2nd, 2007 1:12 am

      I want Anna to rest in peace, no matter where she is. It makes no difference to me… but it does to her family. I find it really hard to believe that a woman that supposedly didn’t love her daughter would go to all this trouble to see to it that her daughter be close to her in death. I know if it were my daughter, I’d want her to come home, in the end.

    21. Ramlady on March 2nd, 2007 1:41 am

      #18 Patti: I think you are mistaken about Daniel ever living with his father. Anna left Daniel with his grandmother, Virgie, from the time he was a small baby until about the time she married the old billionaire Marshall. Daniel lived with Virgie while Anna pursued a career as a stripper. Secondly, nobody truly believes that poorly written will from 2001 will go uncontested. Do you really believe Anna’s intent was for little Dannielynn to end up with nothing? No way!

    22. Scared Monkeys on March 2nd, 2007 1:56 am

      Personally, the matter is most likely moot and they should just be buried as enough is enough.

      However, that does not mean that I do not think that Anna Nicole probably is not getting some poetic justice here. She should never have buried Daniel in the Bahamas. What link did he have to it? Anna Nicole has no link either as we will find out soon they didn’t even have residency.

      The only reason why Anna went there was to defraud the real father of her baby. Then when Daniel died she would not risk going back to CA for fear of a law suit.

      What occurs if the following happens?

      1. HKS loses the right to live in the Bahama home as it would appear he has no rights to it.
      2. HKS is not the father and Dannielynne lives with Larry
      3. HKS and DS no longer live in Bahamas
      4. Daniel and Anna are buried in a location where no family or friends live.

      So burying them in the Bahamas makes sense , why?

      This is what happens when the underlying cause is deceit.

    23. nychic on March 2nd, 2007 2:19 am

      “Chicken Billy” Relinquished His Parental Rights
      To Daniel 20 Years Ago – He Never Paid Anna Child
      Support Nor Did He Ever Make One Attempt To See Daniel
      Or Fight Anna For Custody For That Matter !

      This Is A Legal Maneuver By John O’Quinn – Plain & Simple

      Anna Moved To The Bahamas For One Reason:
      Howard K. $tern Convinced Her The Authorities In
      The State of California Would Take DannieLynn From
      Her Due To The Mandatory Drug Testing Laws -
      He Also Found It Convenient For Him To Live Out
      His Life-Long Dream of Finally Marrying Anna
      (even though she NEVER considered HK$ a boyfriend)

    24. Patti on March 2nd, 2007 2:28 am


      You’re probably right. I assumed that he lived in Texas with his dad, but it very well may have been his grandmother.

      As far as the will is concerned, it will be contested. But why did she have a clause like that in the first place. Did it have anything to do with the trust that Daniel got from Mr. Marshall? Excluding any and all future children whether through birth, adoption or foster children is a pretty powerful phrase and not one that I’m familiar with.

      Such a mess! Unfortunately, I’m sure we’re going to hear more about this in the months to come.

      Good Night…

    25. Sue on March 2nd, 2007 2:52 am

      The Bahama’s will never grant this
      They have a tourism cash cow now sad as it is

    26. whytegirl on March 2nd, 2007 8:10 am

      No, Red…that’s what happens when karma bites back. GO LARRY!

    27. Leslie on March 2nd, 2007 9:34 am

      Daniel was born and raised in Texas by his mother and grandmother and was a resident of California when he died. There does not appear to be a Will or any written instructions concerning his choice of a final resting place. The quickie burial in the Bahamas was the only option for his distraught mother. Just because AN bought other plots surrounding Daniel’s grave does not mean that she planned to be buried there and Howard had never said that he planned to RIP there. Judge Larry stressed that a mother should be buried beside her child and then looked at Virgie and declared that Anna Nicole would be buried in foreign soil. I wonder who is going to pay for the headstones and the upkeep of the graves? How many people have to buy a plane ticket, get a passport and go through customs to put flowers on their loved ones grave?

    28. Freebrid on March 2nd, 2007 10:03 am

      I’m sure this is the work of Virgie! She couldn’t get no money from Anna when she was alive so now she is trying to get what she can! She don’t no more care about that baby just getting her hands on that money! She said she had no money then how in the hell is she paying for all her lawyers and trips everywhere? Something is very stinkie! Billy said he didn’t even have the money to go to Florida he had to talk to the judge on the money. He may not even know Virgie filed to have Daniel moved! A man who doesn’t try to see his son in years is not a father anyway. He could have saw his son if he was man and wanted to, he didn’t want to pay child support. Any man can father a child but it takes a real man to be a DAD!!!!! AT lest Larry is trying to get Dannielynn and let her have the Dad that Daniel never had!!!!

    29. Nut44x4 on March 2nd, 2007 11:25 am

      KUDO’s 2 # 28 Freebird…..I too think that Vergie has promised to PAY Billy for his actions to move Daniel. This is all so EFFING SICK!!! LET THEM REST where they are!! I want to say so much more…..but I will be banned, lol…JUST LET THEM BE!!

    30. Leslie on March 2nd, 2007 11:55 am

      This is not about 2 corpses – it is about the living relatives, loved ones, friends and that baby who is an American citizen. Anna and Daniel are together in heaven but their family is in Texas.

    31. txchic on March 2nd, 2007 11:55 am

      the end will only come when daniel’s sister is back home in the u.s. with her birth father.

      perhaps the bahamas need to be reminded what happens to tourism when u.s. citizens aren’t given the justice they seek? maybe they should look at the aruba tourism downward spiral since the holloway case before approaching dna testing?

      The Bahamas Ministry of Tourism
      P.O. Box N-3701
      Nassau, Bahamas
      Tel: 242-302-2000
      Fax: 242-302-2098
      E-mail: tourism@bahamas.com

      Toll Free: 1-800-Bahamas

    32. december_star on March 2nd, 2007 12:43 pm

      #30 I seriously doubt this is about the family having their loved ones near by. If that was the case the WHY didn’t they make an issue of it sooner. I mean Danial has been in the Bahamas for what? 6 months. If Vergie really wanted to be near her daughter, she might tried while she was still alive. If she put up this much effort to be in AN life before it ended, things could be so much different now.

    33. Kat_Gram on March 2nd, 2007 1:50 pm

      I am not sure of the connection between Aruba and the Bahamas or either of these two situations. The Bahamas is part of the British Commonwealth. They have a legal system. What has the Bahamas done wrong in this case ?
      The residency is an issue, but beyond that ???
      There are several court cases pending in the Bahamas.
      There is an inquest into the death of Daniel.
      Larry Birkhead was told to file papers in the Bahamas and he didn’t. Why ? Because he would rather have the case heard under California law where he might get a more favorable outcome.The courts in the USA do not have jurstiction on this one. And that was stated by the USA courts. It will all come out in the court cases in the Bahamas. But they will not have a circus with a “Judge Larry” who was auditioning for a TV show.
      Write to them and say what ?
      Oh, please change your justice system from the English Common Law system to a.) California b.) Florida c.) sumtin’ else. ????????

    34. Patti on March 2nd, 2007 2:44 pm

      I agree with Red. The burial of Daniel in the Bahamas was nothing more than a rash decision based on deceit in the first place so to base everything that follows, like the death of Anna Nicole, on that mistake is ludicrous.

      I think that when the authorities consider that Anna Nicole and Howard Stern were not citizens of the Bahamas, everything will change, including jurisdiction. The minister of immagration “retired” when his scandlous affair with Anna Nicole became public. I don’t know that much about Bahamian law, but I would imagine that citizenship attained through deception is no citizenship at all. I’m not sure about whether the baby would remain a citizen, but surely Howard Stern would loose his citizenship and the baby, certainly, isn’t going to stay in the Bahamas by herself. So that leaves Anna Nicole and Daniel buried in the Bahamas while their family members are in the U.S.

      There has to be a reason that Howard Stern chose Naasau. Maybe there is a gray area in their laws that he wants to take advantage of. One thing that we all agree on is that Howard Stern is a putz… and I’m real leary of this guy who is acting as guardian. Maybe he, just like the minister in the Bahamas is nothing more than a puppet.

      I heard that Anna’s mom tried to stop the funeral. My heart goes out to her. She may seem crazy, but I can assure you that when a woman looses her grandson, to what she conceives as an accidental overdose done on purpose, and then looses her daughter six months later, under the same circumstances, the emotions run high. Just imagine having to sit in the same room with the man that you think is responsible for your child’s death. But what must seem worse is that she is receiving no justice, losing every battle that she has with him for the sake of her child. The press has not been kind to her as Anna Nicole and Howard Stern had painted her as the “bad guy” a long time ago. It must be heart-breaking.

    35. Sam on March 3rd, 2007 12:00 am

      I am not an Anna Nicole Smith fan but I am a Mother. If I remember things correctly Danny was raised by Virgie until ANS married Marshal.

      From there I do not know what caused the breakup with her Mother. I do know that as a parent I would be very disturbed to see my child doing drugs and the spiralling out of control that took place with ANS. I would also not keep my mouth shut about it. Was this what caused the hard feelings between the 2? I suspect it had a large bearing.

      Even Larry Birkhead has told the stories of how he was unable to keep her from doing drugs. I do believe if she had stayed in Ca and continued to do drugs the child would have been taken away from her as it should have been. HS was an enabler.Did he love Anna? I do not know. Many enablers claim they love the person. The baby should have been taken from them both.

      Yes I do believe Dannys body should have been moved back to Texas and ANS should be buried next to him there.JMHO


    36. december_star on March 3rd, 2007 1:59 am

      In the end it really doesn’t matter where one is buried. My father died when i was 8. His wishes were to have his remains cremated, and scattered to the winds in the mountains of Colorado. His reasoning for this was, the local cemetery was next door to the middle school my sister and i attended. he did not want us to go to school everyday, knowing his remains were right next door. Because of his decision, there is no “one” place for me to go and visit him. All i have to do is walk into the mountains, and i am with him. the mountains were the place he most cherished in his life most before death and that is good enough for me. My Dad is with me no matter what, and if you truly love someone,that is true for u as well, It is their spirit not their body that gives you and them life everlasting. If a person wants to be buried away from where their family then “so be it.” They are the ones who have to die and they are the ones who have to move on from our earthly existence. That is all the family needs to do. Hold them “in spirit” in your heart but don’t covet the body. Suddenly their earthly body no longer matters. It is, ones spirit and soul that makes them live forever, and it is knowing that spirit and soul are always with you, that make it OK for the deceased to be buried, cremated or whatever. In the end it really doesn’t matter. Unless you are after money, then i guess it makes a HUGE difference.

    37. december_star on March 3rd, 2007 2:09 am

      your heart should not be where the bodoy lies but where the truth lies.

    38. Judy/TX on March 3rd, 2007 11:19 am

      Go, Billy go! LOL..i think this is a very smart move and do not know why he did not do this before now! Yes Daniel should be with his family. After all i see NO honor for Virgie Arthur, her Mother and none for the Father of Daniel. I think this is disgraceful! The way the press is calling him a “fry cook” (Billy Wayne Smith). Im sure in everyone’s life as sometime they worked at some job like this. Who are these people that call them scum? Do they personally know Billy Smith? Don’t worry Billy, they are NOT your judge…they will face the big judge someday as will Anna and the rest of us. I cant get over the cruel way she talked of her Mother, for pity sake!!!

    39. Sam on March 3rd, 2007 1:28 pm

      Hey Judy in Texas I so agree with you. Billy would not be a frycook if there was not a need for it.

      In seing some of those pictures Of ANS it is so sad she had no idea what was going on in her life.The makeup smeared all over her face and her wild look. No wonder her and her Mom were estranged. I would certainly rather my child was a frycook or even a stripper than a drugged up junkey. JMHO

    40. Kelsey on March 3rd, 2007 1:37 pm

      Sorry Patti, Daniel never lived with this father. The father said this when he was on the phone with the judge in the FL hearing…had spoken on the phone with his son for 20 minutes in 1988…that is it. Virgie is behind this….he could not be a father to Daniel in life yet now wants to exhume his body….disgraceful. Daniel and Anna should be left alone to rest in peace on the beautiful island she chose to bury her son…leave this mother and son alone….Virgie has simply shown the world why Anna detested her.

    41. Judy/TX on March 3rd, 2007 8:57 pm

      To # 39, what other kind of job can you get at age 16? I worked in Corner Drug store at age 15…later as a Dental Asst. for 20 years, Dep. Co. Clerk, so im sure Billy has found a new job by now. You know as long as it is an honest living…what is wrong with a fry cook?

    42. Kelsey on March 4th, 2007 12:04 pm

      #41 There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a fry cook…nothing wrong with any honest job..however, the day he was called by the judge in the FL hearing, he was home, when asked what he did for work, he said “construction”…when asked why he was at home instead of working, no answer, when asked if he had worked construction for awhile, no answer….this is probably not a guy who moves from job to job…works now and then…he sees the death of his son as a way to make some money…once again he should have cared for Daniel in life…leave these two to rest in peace…

    43. Patti on March 4th, 2007 1:00 pm

      Too bad that some people can’t fathom the idea that some things are more precious than money.

      For the rest of us, it’s obvious that there were two money grabbing whores. Billy and Virgie?… Not!!!

    44. Sam on March 4th, 2007 7:39 pm

      Well said Patti. Welcome to the forum. I hope you make it in there safely.


    45. Patti on March 4th, 2007 8:28 pm

      Thanks, Sam.

      You know I like to play out here.

      When I’m there, it’s serious business, well, sorta….



    46. december_star on March 5th, 2007 12:46 am

      And yet no one can answer the question of why move Daniel now?….6 months after burial. Why did Vergie or good old Billy not do something about Daniels final resting place sooner? AN might have been a money grubber in life, but it looks like the gauntlet has been passed. This is not motherly, or fatherly love, this is pure greed. If either of them were so concerned with their paternal love, why wait until AN dies to make efforts to be close to them? Answer…they see a cash cow and they are ready to cash in!!!

    47. txchic on March 5th, 2007 12:15 pm

      could the reason billy chose to act now be because he won’t have to fight anna over the issue?

      billy may not have been a model parent but i doubt he was given a chance.

      personally i don’t think it matters where the bodies are buried. i doubt the baby girl is going to want to visit the graves that often once she finds out that her mom was so concerned over her well being that she took drugs while pregnant & left her in the care of a scum bag.

    48. Patti on March 5th, 2007 3:37 pm

      Great Point, Texas Chic!

      I was thinking the exact same thing. I doubt that Virgie and Billy EVER wanted Daniel to be buried in the Bahamas. But they had Anna to deal with. That’s a scarey thought, even for those that didn’t know her.


      December Star:

      What the ?!?!?!?!

      Is there money hidden in those corpses?

    49. Judy/TX on March 5th, 2007 5:02 pm

      Agree with you #47….you are right on!

    50. december_star on March 5th, 2007 7:42 pm

      Oh I see it would have to hard to fight AN? Now that is love. As far as I can see Vergire did nothing to be in AN life before death, and her instincts only kicked in after she died, apparently because it would have been to hard. Well that explaination for some people but not for me. As far as where the money is, it is with the baby girl. HKS and Vergie can odviously see the value of having AN near by. Don’t ask me how they think, it just seems weird that all this concern for Danial and AN only happened after she died. Also why is Vergie goning to fight for custody of the baby. Shouldn’t the baby’s father have her. Although I must say i pray to god it is Larry, because if he is not, that will be a true nightmare for the little girl.

    51. Judy/TX on March 5th, 2007 10:24 pm

      Guess you have not read or seen the video of how HKS talked to Anna about the footage being money…she was out of her head.. Listen this man is ONLY after Anna’s money. The true Father of the little girl should have custody…if he is fit or Ans’family. HKS kept Anna away from her family and friends. That is the reason Virgie and Billy did not do anything before now. Where is your common sense. Honor of a Mother and Father is VERY important to the REAL GOD. It brings a long life.
      And did not i see where she called her MOTHER when Daniel passed away? AND then HKS hung the phone up immediately…and changed the tel. #. Wouldnt you think this was a sneaky little thing to do Anna? Im sure in her drugged state, he made EVERY decision, except to get her some help to get off the drugs. NO, the baby should not be given to him under any circumstances. The yacht HKS bought in Fla..may be a way of escape from laws of any land. I understand, there is No law in the ocean?? Am i right about that? hmmmm think about all this.

    52. Judy/TX on March 5th, 2007 10:34 pm

      Yes, Larry Birkhead should have his baby if it is his and he is fit, which i assume he is. I say, Go Larry, Go. But i also saw Anna say her Mother tried to raise her right and drugged her out of some of the strip joints. I believe i saw this on Larry King show. Also she took her to church. So i see that Virgie is a good Mother in spite of the drugged video Anna made to her Mother.

    53. Patti on March 6th, 2007 1:14 am


      I agree.

      It is so hard to tear your child from drugs and the
      destructive lifestyle that comes with it. But, in the
      case of Anna Nicole, she was a grown woman, 39 years old.
      Even ten years ago would have been too late.

      I remember hearing about those incidents when Anna Nicole
      first started working in the stip joints. I think Virgie
      did all she could, but just like with Larry and the others,
      Anna alienated anyone that tried to come between her and
      her drugs.

      And you’re right about Anna calling her mom, afer Daniel
      died. Virgie said that she talked to her about the drugs.
      She tried to warn Anna because she was afraid that Anna was
      going to die the same way as Daniel.

      But, Anna knew….

      When she found out that Daniel was dead, she started
      SCREAMING at Howard, “You did this, didn’t you!!!”

      Yep! Respecting your mother and father will reward you
      with a long life.

      Too bad Anna didn’t listen.

    54. Judy/TX on March 6th, 2007 11:57 am

      Patti, i see we think alike…however, i respected my Mother and Father all my life. Now i did do some things that they wouldnt approve of but later i returned to the way they raised me. We went to Church , 3 times a week…and after i became an adult did a few things i am not proud of.
      I never heard of her saying Howard did that to Daniel..but i suspected it. After all there were only two ppl there in the room…and did he not go out for food for them and then Daniel became “very tired”? Something fishey about the whole thing to me.

    55. december_star on March 6th, 2007 4:08 pm

      Judy – No I do not watch every video on AN and HKS out there, and I agree with most everyone on how the baby situation should be handled, HKS should not have her. I just don’t take Virgie at face value, I believe there is more to her motives then a grieving mother. I also believe in respecting a persons dieing wishes, no matter how crazy their behavior in life. It is a final wish everyone deserves to have granted. Maybe it was HKS’s manipulations, or her desire to keep her baby when she had done drugs while pregnant. Then why not fight to have her buried where she(AN) lived before she went to the Bahamas? From all accounts I know of AN hated TX and so would not want to be buried there. And there was no mentions of moving Daniel until it was decided that AN should be next to him. So no I do not trust Billy’s motives either.
      Patti – if you love your kids enough it is never to late to try and help them, you never give up, “respecting your mother and father will reward you with a long life” very seriously depends on who your parents are. From the stories i have heard, I’m not sure Virgie fits into that catagory.

    56. Judy/TX on March 6th, 2007 11:10 pm

      Virgie is a deputy sheriff…? At least i heard she was. Wouldnt you think she had all her ducks in a row. My thinking is she is afraid for the new baby…something could happen to her and all would go to HKS. I think she really has a concern for her Anna and the fact that she said she hated Texas may be the shame of the things she had done in Texas.
      I actually didnt want to tell my life story, but, it was not a perfect home either. My Mother and Father were separated since i was 5 years old… and my Mother tried to turn me against him. I later found out he was a kind man..no matter what happened with them. If we were not there on Father’s day, his birthday and Christmas…we knew that he would be very upset. It was an act of respect and honor. Virgie is due the same. Anna wasnt the only one that had a hard life. That gave her no reason to talk to her Mother the way she did…actually calling her a b-tch and said she (Virgie) looked evil. I think she was broken at the loss of Daniel and was concerned for her daughter’s safety and we see now that she had the right to be. I pity the poor woman. Oh and i supported my Mother for many years. I think Anna owed her Mother for taking care of Daniel in his early years and just because of her being her Mother. Im for her getting her share and there is plenty to go around. As for Billy, i do not know. I do not know all the facts. It probably wasnt nescessary to tell of my life..but i do not regret taking care of my Mom or Dad. I wasnt trying to blow my horn. Please forgive, i just understand that no matter how your Mother and Father treated you, they are your Mother and Father.

    57. december_star on March 6th, 2007 11:28 pm

      If we are going off what we heard, i heard Virgie allowed AN to be molested by her husband when AN was young…Again, it is hard to take her at face value. Who knows what the truth is?

    58. Judy/TX on March 7th, 2007 12:21 am

      Wonder if it was her real Father or one of her stepfathers?
      Im sure Virgie was working at the time and things like this happen unfortunatly in the best of homes. That was a terrible thing for her to suffer and could be the reason for her choices in life. So sad! But we have to forgive and press on. Maybe the guy hopefully did time for what he did. He should have.

    59. Jenny on March 8th, 2007 11:59 am

      Good questions!!! Maybe it is seeing first hand how underhanded and sneaky family can get when a loved one dies, and living through simillar circumstances, but I don’t trust Virgie anymore then i trust HKS. That is just my opinion

    60. Logical Thinker on March 8th, 2007 1:16 pm

      Everyone keeps pointing fingers and blaming other people for Anna Nicole’s addicted life and ultimate death. However, it appears to me that Anna Nicole controlled all situations within her life, except for the untimely death of her beloved son Daniel. Had Larry Birkhead been allowed by Anna to stay in her life – she would have controlled him. I believe that Howard K. Stern absolutely and completely loved Anna Nicole and it’s obvious by her choices that she wanted Howard K. Stern in her life.
      The same cannot be said about Larry Birkhead or her “mother dearest”, Virgie. In the video of Anna played in court Anna made some very serious accusations against Virgie…”You want to hear all the things she did to me? You want to hear all the things she let my father do to me, or my brother do to me? Or my sister? All the beatings and the whippin’s and the rape? That’s my mother. That’s my mom!”
      Its obvious Anna did not want Larry in her or Dannielynn’s life. Anna Nicole would not have fled to the Bahamas had it not been but for her desire to be away from Larry. Anna chose not to name Larry on Dannielynn’s birth certificate.

      Virgie is bitter that she was unable to profit from her daughter in life. Instead she now benefits from her daughter’s and grandson’s death. Virgie is the epitome of greed and quintessential “gold digger”. Perhaps Anna Nicole’s abuse of prescription medications is a result of her childhood.

      For the last decade of Anna Nicole’s life there were only two people who loved Anna Nicole unconditionally and without motive. One of those two people is now dead and the world has all but persecuted the other. I wonder if Virgie or Larry would have fought this hard if they knew that there was no financial gain to be made

      To Judy in TX – Anna owed nothing to Virgie – this not just an “unfortunate” and a “terrible thing to suffer “- it’s criminal. At the very least as a “mother”, Virgie owed Anna a childhood free of abuse and rape.

    61. Judy/TX on March 8th, 2007 9:29 pm

      Logical thinker, yes Anna also played the blame game, blaming all her problems on her Mother. If Virgie is SO bad, how did she get a job with the Sherrif’s dept.? They do background checks, believe me. My husband that passed away was a Detective. I know how the system works. You do not get a job like that if you are guilty of causing someone’s rape. Yes it could have happened and im sure Virgie filed for a divorce immmediately. But then again i do not pretend to know all the facts.
      The baby should be with it’s biological Father, if he is fit as i have said before. If HKS is the Father and he is a fit person, so be it. HKS was Anna’s lawyer. He was handy for anything that came against her. Im sure that is why she kept him around. He advised her all matters. If she had stayed in Ca., Larry could have taken that baby away if she continued taking drugs, esp. during pregnancy. You dont do those things to little babies you know.
      Yes and Anna called Virgie first thing after Daniel’s death…and guess what she trusted her Mother with Daniel in his formative years. Anna was on drugs..that was all drug talk. If her life was so bad, would she have left Daniel with her???

    62. december_star on March 9th, 2007 12:07 am

      The fact that Anna trusted Virgie with Danial in his early years might also be drugs talking..ya see what i mean? Just because she allowed Daniel to stay there doesn’t mean Virgie was in any way the best choice (Anna was young and selfish and didn’t want to be tied down, so she gave him to who would take him), also no one was never prosecuted obviously , or even brought to the attention of the authorities regarding Anna’s abuse. If so there would be concrete proof. So it is easy to say even a background check would not show Virgie had ever done anything wrong. That doesn’t mean innocence. We have all kinds of creeps in position of authority in this country who shouldn’t be there. The system in place is far from perfect, so that is really no argument. Don’t agree, just look at any of these school teachers abusing children in our schools. Some have histories and some don’t.

    63. Judy/TX on March 9th, 2007 12:29 pm

      Yep, probably drugs talking thru Ans about her abuse..as Anna said her Mother drugged her out of those strip joints. In my opinion, Anna didnt want ANYONE interfering with her drugs, they were her LIFE you see. She would say anything to keep them. She told about her Mother dragging her out of those places, as i said, on Larry King show.
      Yep there is wickedness in high places, but, there are some in office that are that ok. Believe me, they check backgrounds on these ppl. They do here where i live anyway. Some of these Judges need to step down and let someone else take their place…among some of these Senators. I think it is horrid the way these priest and people in authority abuse children. I agree with you on that! They should put them away for LIFE! Whatever will be. God’s will be done in this situation. If Virgie is guilty of anything it will come out. And she or whoever is guilty should pay!
      Just hate to see HKS who probably drew up the will get everything..unless he is the baby’s real Father..then that is his business.

    64. december_star on March 9th, 2007 7:41 pm

      I agree with you there, HKS is bad news. I hope and pray that the little girl is NOT his. If she were I would worry very seriously for her.

    65. Judy/TX on March 9th, 2007 8:59 pm

      Well i heard that he wanted a romantic affair with her and she told someone, “no way” She had plenty of men friends. I dont think it is his child. There will be a DNA and all will come to light. Im with you about him. I dont trust him. Someone did something to Daniel to cause his death..whether in the states or there. I dont know if we will ever know the truth about that. I hoping it is Larry’s baby.

    66. december_star on March 10th, 2007 1:08 am

      Judy I so hope that is true (Anna’s refusal of HSK). I don’t know much about Larry, for all i know he is just as bad, but it seems honest enough that he has tried to prove his fatherhood right from the start. IMO the little one will be better off with him, then anyone else. Well maybe the prince as well. He didn’t have to risk his marriage with Zsa Zsa, until he knew for sure that neither Larry or HSK were NOT the babies father. But then I know nothing of him either. Now tell me, if a DNA test is the quickest and easiest way to end this whole battle why not do it already? Even in the Bahamas, you would think they would want to solve the issue ASAP, and give the baby a permanent or at least stable home already. All little ones deserve that, above all else.

    67. Judy/TX on March 10th, 2007 9:49 am

      Star, i am in total agreement with you. You know i think you are right about the husband of Zsa Zsa…might be something to this. He sure looked too old to have sex..sorry..LOL..

    68. Judy/TX on March 10th, 2007 12:31 pm

      Uh oh, that wasnt nice…it could be the Prince’s child..after all she told him she wanted a little “Princess”. Now maybe so…although i read that he paid someone to become a Prince. I guess if we all had the money to waste we could be Prince or Princess..huh?

    69. december_star on March 10th, 2007 11:26 pm

      Well ther is always Viagra…lol

    70. Patti on March 11th, 2007 2:57 am

      Logical Thinker?!?!?!??!

      You are way, way off base!

      I can’t believe that you would call Virgie a gold digger!
      That almost made me fall out of my chair. Gold? Who has
      gold? Anna? Anna just wishes she had gold. The last time
      I checked she didn’t even have enough money to pay for
      Daniel’s funeral. He had to lay in the morgue until her and
      Howard came up with the funds that they got from selling
      pictures of his dead body.

      You are of the opinion that Howard loved Anna? What’s love
      got to do with it? They were a couple of people that had a
      few things in common. That’s why they were together. They
      both loved the lime light, they both loved money and they
      both loved heroin! Now, that sounds like a love story made
      in heaven, doesn’t it?

      What kind of man allows his woman to sleep with other men?
      Who would encourage the woman that he loves to sleep with
      a man for a house in the Bahamas… or in the case of the
      minister for citizenship? What kind of man would take
      pictures of his woman in bed with another man? What kind
      of man would tape a video of his lady with her face painted
      and mumbling like an idiot? But, even, more important than
      that… What kind of man allows the woman he loves to abuse
      her body and that of her unborn child through the use of

      That’s not love, Baby… that’s insanity.

    71. Patti on March 11th, 2007 6:25 pm

      I’m sorry for sounding so negative… it was late.

      There is no such thing as “unconditional” love… especially
      when it comes to men. They keep score. Besides, if there
      is one thing that a man won’t share, it’s his affection.

    72. Judy/TX on March 12th, 2007 2:00 pm

      Oh Yes, Star, Viagra, i forgot! good point!

    73. december_star on March 13th, 2007 11:04 pm

      Patti, the kind of man who see her as nothing but a payday. But i still believe Virgie sees the same thing, she may have tried to help Anna in the past, but that could have been guilt over what happened to her as a child. It seems to me the only one with a genuine interest here is Larry. He has tried from the beginning to prove his fatherhood, and is still fighting for the that very thing. But who knows, we are dealing with Hollywood here, for all we know Virgie is the real mother, HKS is really trying to protect the baby, and Larry is after the money. Not that i see that coming, but I don’t dismiss it either… i just hope everything works out for the best interest of the little girl in the end. God bless her!

    74. Judy/TX on March 14th, 2007 12:29 am

      “All hidden things will come to light” I heard today that Daniel hire someone to see “what was the hold HKS had over Anna”, and then he visits his Mother and little sister and dies? I think his investigation wasnt welcome. He was getting in the way, ya know…

    75. Patti on March 14th, 2007 11:54 pm

      I agree with you, December Star. I think everything is going to come out in the end. I read at TMZ that Birkhead went shopping at Babes R Us and is getting ready for the little one. I’m with you… I hope the best for her.

      Judy: I also read that there may be something on that computer that the bodyguard’s wife (ANS nurse in Florida) was working on before she realized that Anna was dead. I’m thinking it may have been an e-mail?!?!??!?!?

      Also, I agree with you about Daniel, I don’t think he liked Stern… ofcourse, who would?

    76. Brian on July 20th, 2007 9:45 pm

      anna nicole and her son may they rest in peace for ever in heaven and be a guardian angel to there daughter and sister

    77. dana on October 3rd, 2014 1:27 am

      God be with this child and may mother and son rip.

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