Why Do Three Boys Go to Carlos N’ Charlie’s One Half Hour Before Closing when Mountain Brook Teens were there on their last night in Aruba? Gee, I Wonder?
So what would make three boys, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe go to a known bar with drunk tourists one half hour before closing? It certainly was not to dance as Joran has told us he does not really dance. It couldn’t be for Deepak or Satish to flirt with the female tourists as they seemed to not do that by all accounts of the records of what happened that night at Carlos N’ Charlie’s.
So why would these three boys go to a bar to meet a group of girls from Mountain Brook, AL one half hour before the bar closed if Joran Van der Sloot had previously stated that Sunday night was no fun at C&C’s.
MCVAY: He came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up.
Joran Van der Sloot confirms that is exactly what he said that night to the Mountain Brook girls.
VAN DER SLOOT: And I remember afterwards going into — right behind that casino is a little bar, and I remember watching — walking in there. And there was a baseball game on TV, and again, the group of girls was sitting there. And they said, Oh, yes, don’t forget to come out tonight. And I told them that on Sunday, it wasn’t a good night to go out. It wasn’t fun. It wasn’t — and — but they said, You know, if you want to come, come. And I ended up deciding that, yes, I might as well go and have fun. (Fox – ‘On the Record,’ Part 1)
However, Joran Van der Sloot while meeting the Mountain Brook teens at the Excelsior casino at the Holiday Inn,learned that they were going to Carlos N’ Charlie’s later that night. Joran Van der Sloot must have also learned that this was the teens last night on Aruba as well. To many boys on the island that is code for a “Shark feeding frenzy.”
VAN DER SLOOT: You know, we were just talking socially. It was just — it was just — it was just talking with nothing — nothing else involved. And then they ended up asking me if — they ended up telling me it was their last night and asked if I wanted to go to Carlos ‘n Charlie’s.
VAN SUSTEREN: Had you been to Carlos ‘n Charlie’s before? You know the place?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I know the place. I went there on weekends a lot. It’s just — it’s a place where I know — it’s fun place. It’s a place where people go and hang out and have fun. I mean… (Fox News – Greta)
So who did Joran initially intend to meet up with at Carlos N’ Charlie’s? So in one half hour prior to closing Joran Van der Sloot did not find his intended target, but managed to find another.
VAN SUSTEREN: Interested in any of them at — at the poker table?
VAN DER SLOOT: Interested? No, not really. I was more talking — the girl that was sitting next to me, I was — I thought she was pretty and I was talking to her. And when I went — what the point was for going to Carlos ‘n Charlie’s was I wanted to actually meet up with her.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you remember her name?
VAN DER SLOOT: I don’t — I didn’t remember it, but I remember it now because I heard it afterwards. I think her name was Kathleen.
After having told the Mountain Brook girls that C&C’s was a waste of time on Sunday night, Joran Van der Sloot decided that he was going to go anyhow. Joran would also make the conscious decision to lie to his father that he was going out to Carlos N’ Charlie’s. WHY? We thought that the Van der Sloot taught their son to tell the truth? Isn’t that how they claim they brought him up?
VAN SUSTEREN: At the point where you called him, were you intending to go to Carlos and Charlie’s at that point? Had you made up your mind?
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I’d made up my mind that I was going to go there, and I’d also made up my mind that I wasn’t going to tell him that I was going to go there because I know he would have said no. He would have said that I couldn’t go. So I had made up my own mind that I was going to go out without him knowing.
What makes Joran Van der Sloot’s decision to go to C&C’s even more interesting after stating that, “Sunday, it wasn’t a good night to go out” was the fact that he knew that these girls had been drinking. This coupled with his views of how American’s drank on vacation and on their last night was all that was needed to change his mind to go out.
The fact that he would find fault in that “they go overboard, and that’s something that’s — that’s bad, something that shouldn’t happen.” A bad thing? This is what he hoped and prayed would occur.
VAN DER SLOOT: I mean, yes, they were drinking liberally and freely, but I mean, I think they had every right to. I mean, they had graduated. They just finished their high school. You know, they’d just been — they’d finished their high school, and I think they had every right to come to Aruba and have — and you know, and celebrate their graduation. I mean, they worked for that their whole life. And I’ve met tons of people that do the same thing.
And I mean, one problem I might have seen with it is the drinking age in the United States is 21 and the drinking age in Aruba is 18. And you know, I’ve met a lot of people that when they’re — you know, whose parents don’t let them drink or do anything like that, and when they — you know, when they come to Aruba and they get a chance to drink, they go — you know, they go overboard, and that’s something that’s — that’s bad, something that shouldn’t happen.
Posted May 15, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Crime, Deepak Kalpoe, Gerold Dompig, Joran Van der Sloot, Natalee Holloway | 11 comments |
Far From A Black & White Investigation in the Natalee Holloway case in Aruba
At Birmingham’s ‘Black & White’, Chuck Geiss ponders why Aruba can’t we find Natalee Holloway? A topic that many have been discussing for nearly a year. Is it because Aruban authorities cannot solve the case or is it because they so not want to?
“Why can’t we find Natalee Holloway?” reviews many of the questionable issues that have occurred along the way during this investigation.
- Several Dutch criminal law experts have gone on the record calling the investigation methods “strange and unprofessional” and the investigation itself “total madness.”
- For example, Joran Van der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe were quickly identified as the last people to see Natalee Holloway alive the evening of May 30. However, Dompig waited over a week to gather evidence from the Van der Sloot home,
- Why did Stephen Croes (a DJ and local operator of a party boat) come forward early in the investigation to corroborate the first tale
- Forensic evidence taken from the Kalpoe’s vehicle that was later determined unusable was never recollected. Why?
Black & White even goes on to mention the discussion of the Chicago videos (Aru-bay videos). Why are they labeled the “Chicago Tapes”? It might be because of this helpful SM posters, chicago_510, who has done a tremendous job with the Aru-bay videos.
There is a series of videotapes, now labeled “the Chicago tapes” (I have no idea why they are named that) that show island authorities in rental cars searching the northern dunes and painting rocks in areas where Holloway might have disappeared—activities that would obviously corrupt a crime scene.
We have always wondered, Why Paint Rocks in the Middle of Nowhere? We have also always wondered why the media has not asked the same questions?
Posted May 10, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Deepak Kalpoe, Gerold Dompig, Joran Van der Sloot, Media, Natalee Holloway | no comments |
Kalpoe’s and Gerold Dompig Have the same Attorneys? Has Aruba Ever Heard of a Conflict of Interest?
Isn’t this interesting. Gerold Dompig and the Kalpoe brothers have the same representing attorney? According to the Gretawire that is the case, attorney David Kock represents all three clients. If this did not take place in Aruba I would question it as bizarre, let alone unethical.
However, in Aruba this type of story has unfortunately become the norm and not the exception. I guess Aruba never met a “conflict of interest” they did not like. This just fuels the fire of cover-up and complicity, especially since we heard the Kalpoe brothers make mention that it was Paulus Van der Sloot who aided them in getting an attorney.
If you saw Friday’s show, you know that the Kalpoe brothers’ lawyer, David Kock, was on with us. I was told after the show by investigative reporter Tito Lacle that David Kock is also the lawyer for Deputy Chief Gerold Dompig. Could this really be true? That would certainly be bizarre at best. The lawyer for the deputy chief AND the two suspects that the deputy chief was investigating? That is an interesting client list.
Conflict of Interest. In Aruba this term must be as foreign as making one a suspect and searching their property before they are able to sanitize it. We would be told by those in Aruba that we in America just don’t understand Dutch or Aruban law.
Posted May 1, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Deepak Kalpoe, Gerold Dompig, Natalee Holloway | 141 comments |
Someone in Aruba Lying? Say it isn’t so. Gerold Dompig; My Son Michael Dompig Lied
In the immortal words of Nadira Ramirez, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe’s mother; “All people lie, even big people.” In Aruba and those that are either suspects or witnesses in the Natalee Holloway investigation seem to lie more than others.
Now the son of the former lead investigator lied to the authorities regarding Geoffrey van Cromvoirt. Can this investigation get any more bizarre? Can anyone in this case be taken for their word?
The former leader of Aruba’s investigation of the disappearance of Alabamian Natalee Holloway says his son falsely accused a man who was released Monday.
Gerold Dompig said accusations of his son, Michael, against Geoffrey van Cromvoirt, 19, were part of a dispute among acquaintances that escalated out of control.
“He’s a kid; he got confused and frustrated and he said things he shouldn’t have said,” Dompig told the Birmingham (Ala.) News. “It went too far.”
Diario: Commissioner Dompig’s son, If Natalee was killed, this would already be known
Diario, April 24, 2006: Commissioner Dompig’s son:If Natalee was killed, this was already known Aruba is small and everyone knows each other and everyone looks at each other
ORANJESTAD(AAN)— The detainee, Geoffrey, was talking of having information and also of having information about Natalee’s disappearance.
The young Domping also stated on FOX that Geoffrey seemed to have a drug problem and that he was removed from the security company due to behavioral problems.