RSSJoran Van der Sloot Confesses to Murder of Stephany Flores, Blames the Victim … “I did not want to do it, “The girl intruded into my private life.”
What a difference a country makes …
Joran Van der Slootconfesses to murder in Peru after three days on interrogationunder Peruvian police custody, after three days in Aruba, two innocent black security guards found themselves in jail trying to be railroaded by Aruban authorities in the death of Natalee Holloway.
Joran Van der Sloot confessesto the murder of 21 year old Stephany Flores in Peru; however, is Joran’s confession the full truth? It would seem doubtful. We have no doubt that Anita’s “delicious sporter” did not kill Stephany Flores as he did Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005, but Van der Sloots reason as to why he killed the 21 year old Peruvian girl sounds a bit suspect.
Peru’s chief police spokesman, Col. Abel Gamarra, told The Associated Press that Van der Slootadmitted under police questioning Monday that he killed 21-year-old Stephany Flores on May 30.
The broadcaster America Television reported that Van der Sloot killed Flores in a rage after learning she had looked up information about his past on his laptop. The broadcaster said it had access to details of the confession but did not cite its source.
The reasoning being why Joran Van der Sloot murdered Flores sounds rather far fetched. It sounds more like confesses to a lesser offence. Peru, do not fall into the Van der Sloot trap. Prosecute this murderer to the fullest extent of the law and provide justice for an innocent Peruvian girl.
21 year old Stephany Flores was found severely beaten to death and her neck broken. Why, because she dared look at his lap top … are you joking? Van der Sloor is claimed to have said in his confession, “I did not want to do it,” La Republica quoted him as saying, “The girl intruded into my private life.”
Flores, a business student, was found beaten to death, her neck broken, in the 22-year-old Dutchman’s hotel room. Police said the two met playing poker at a casino.
To the end Joran Van der Sloot play the victim … so what was his confession, the victim, Stephany Flores, made me do it! She dare look at my lap top and invade my personal life. Makes us all wonder what was really on the laptop doesn’t it that could be so damning.
Ok Joran Van der Sloot, RIDDLE ME THIS BATMAN …if you killed Stephany Flores because she looked at your laptop, why did you rob her of her gambling winnings from the night before? Why did you pummel her to death and break her neck? As reported at Nancy Grace, Ms Flores was beat to a bloody pulp … all over looking at his lap top? That hardly seems plausible, but if so, imagine what would have occurred if Natalee Holloway said “NO”.
GRACE: Let`s go through what we know so far about the autopsy report. If you don`t mind, Dana (ph), let`s put up our autopsy body, what we know about Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez`s injuries. We see — at the top — let`s take it from head to toe — dark red bruising on the face. That would be her left cheek, just beside the nose. Scratches along the chin. Broken neck. Scratches on the chin — that`s extremely interesting to me. That says to me that she was thrown to the floor and that she was scratched, possibly by carpet. Also, it could reveal that she was grabbed around the neck and that she was scratching at Joran Van Der Sloot`s hands and scratched her own neck. It could also be Van Der Sloot`s fingers on her chin as he grabs her neck.
Let`s go down the body. Broken neck, blunt trauma to the torso. And as you see in this figure, that blunt trauma goes from just below the shoulders all the way down to the navel. Dark red bruising on the inside of her right elbow, the inside. What is that? Guarantee you that will end up to be thumbprints of her attacker grabbing her like this by the arms with such force, it leaves bruising on the inside of the elbow.
Put that diagram back up, please, Dana. As you can see, on her right arm, a circle on the dark red bruising. On the finger, her right index finger it looks like to me — no, forefinger — there is an open wound, likely sustained during a struggle. What does this say? This says she was fighting.
RIDDLE ME THIS BATMAN AGAIN … how does a girl get beaten to death like this at the time of the morning Joran would have stated and no one heard her scream? If some one came back into a room and saw some one on their computer, the victim would have shouted and screamed for their life as Joran Van der Sloot killed them. It is more plausible that Van der Sloot killed her in her sleep and stole the money, went to get coffee to create a phony alibi.
Also, one more time BATMAN, RIDDLE ME THIS … did Stephany speek Dutch? How about read it? Joran Van der Sloots laptop had to be set to Dutch and ever thing in it was written in Dutch. So how exactly did she invade his personal life?
Once again we see Joran Van der Sloot blame the victim and play the victim himself. PERU … fry the SOB and charge him with the maximum. He is a predator, a killer and a liar … JUSTICE FOR STEPHANY & NATALEE.
Posted June 8, 2010 by Scared Monkeys Arrest, Arson, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Murder, Natalee Holloway, Stephany Flores, WTF | 81 comments |
If you liked this post, you may also like these:
Comments
81 Responses to “Joran Van der Sloot Confesses to Murder of Stephany Flores, Blames the Victim … “I did not want to do it, “The girl intruded into my private life.””
Leave a Reply
I recall seeing that Stephany father ran for president at one time? Wow, how did they get him to confess? Joran looks like you can’t get out of this one. I imagine that Mr. Flores got friends in high places. The tables have been turned. You and your daddy and Vanderstraten played dirty with the family of Natalee, now your turn Sporter. Joe T make a statement yet? The bullseye has made contact.
The girl saw private things. She had no right. I approached her and she was scared
……
This wasn’t an internet search. There is something, probably in English, on that laptop (assuming she doesn’t know dutch it is the next obvious language for Joran).
Maybe notes regarding the extortion communication.
Or maybe pictures…..
i did not want to, BUT YOU DID ASSHOLE
GOD BLESS PERU, get this piece of crap off the face of the earth.
Re. the laptop; most Dutch people use US settings on their computer, i.e. the whole GUI is in English. Maybe it wasn’t something that was written, I know a lot of people would look at vacation pictures first… think about it. A picture says more than a 1000 words.
Here we go again. I wonder what story Joran will conjure up during his “reconstruction” of his murder of Stephanie. During the last reconstruction of Joran on May 31, 2005, Joran claimed (along with his co-conspirators) that he “dropped the girl off at the hotel where she was approached by a black security guard”. Now, Joran is re-constructing for Peruvian police (real men and women with honor who wear badges that actually represent THE LAW and NOT CORRUPTION), – Joran is reconstructing how “THE GIRL” invaded his privacy in Peru. THE GIRL HAS A NAME, PREDATOR OF INNOCENT YOUNG GIRLS. THEIR NAMES ARE NATALEE AND STEPHANIE.
Will Joran find his shoes this time around?
Will the Aruban police ever explain how PAULUS KNEW that Natalee was a corpse – BEFORE she was even reported “missing”?
Klaas— I bet your internet traffic is going beserk today again—-but can you check your Spam Folder. Lost another post. The site is going to crash—quick—where is Dugga!
=) Thanks, Klaas/Red/SM crew. You are the best.
Think that Stephany spoke Spanish. There are reports that Joran could speak some Spanish, but at a minimum.
Stephany snooped and got caught in the act poking around, IMO. Thus, setting the Little Sporter’s full on rage in motion. My heart breaks thinking of her. I also think (from the sounds of the preliminary autopsy and the state her body was left in) that she fought him off as best she could until that piece of shit broke her neck.
Is it possible to feel hatred for a total stranger? I despise that Monster. He is so evil.
I don’t think this was an internet search. There is nothing she could google that was “private”. Besides, I read (somewhere) that she and her friends did know who he was (in concept, maybe not that Joran was Joran but she did know that Joran existed).
“Private” must mean email or documents/pictures.
Also, I don’t know Dutch at all. Could someone who knows English, Spanish, and maybe German (guess) know enough to get the general idea of a dutch document? Maybe she knew some Dutch….but most “educated & wealthy” non-Americans seem to know 3 languages enough to get by.
I will not believe anything I read on this case. I have heard she was stabbed to death, beaten with a baseball bat, beaten with a tennis racket, and now just beaten with fists. Would someone just report the facts please. This is getting out of hand.
Red:
How can the faithful readership here at SM help the Flores-Ramirez’s for what they have done? I want to do something on a personal level. While I know Stephany has already been buried—is it possible for you to track us down an address or where our thoughts, prayers and condolences can be sent to her parents in Peru?
We are hoping and praying Beth and Dave can somehow unite with this family and work together in putting the last nail into Joran’s coffin.
Any info you could dig up for us will be great. Should we donate something collectively here at SM? Since they have search teams in Aruba on stand-by if Joran finally confesses to where Natalee’s body is- would be interested in sending donations to TES again for the Persistence as well. I know we can donate directly to Tim Miller for this on his website.
Any thoughts?
Thank you
how can anyone believe this guy’s story? he is a liar.does anyone really think Joran would leave incriminating evidence about NH on his laptop? He is an arrogant SOB but You can bet his dad made him clear everything on his computer or he got a new computer.Sorry I don’t believe his story..you really think she would come to his room at 5 a.m. and do an on-line search about NH? Give me a break??? The time of the murder will be telling. There are videos..were there staff on the floor? Upon entry to the room, The TV was found to be blaring..was this done before or after the murder? All her money was gone.
he always plays the victim he is one sick person who needs to be taken off the street.I blame aruba for the cover-up and putting the Holloway family threw so much greif.Now another family the flores family has to go threw the same thing.it’s so disgusting! plus him trying to extore money from the Holloway family and he would tell them where her body was.His us lawyer Joe T I wander what stupid statement he’ll give to the media in defense of Joran.I pray every night that these families will get justice!
Maybe what she saw on his laptop were his attempts to extort money from the Holloway family. According to the news, he was doing just that four days before going to Peru. If that was the case, it would have been written in English. He succeeded somewhat because according to the report $15,000 had been transfered to a Dutch account. The day he was caught, the U.S. charged him with extortion. We’ll never know why. It just sad that another innocent has died at his hands. He’s a spoiled arrogant monster.
((edit – sorry too graphic))
…..REST IN PEACE Natalie, Stephany and all his other victims whose identities remain unknown.
Breaking news: it is said the remains of Nathalie have been found.
I am curious as to why, Stephany does not deserve her own thread on your forum. Instead you discuss it on the Natalee thread. Yes, same perp, but two separate cases altogether.
Ha Ha looks like Dilma Arends Geerman has closed her wall from public veiwing on facebook now.
red, how do you think his confession will affect the kalpoe brothers?
I hope Aruba will finally charge the Kalpoes with obstruction…have they left aruba yet for suriname???
All of those people on Aruba who helped Joran go free now have the blood of another innocent on their hands. Boycott ARUBA!!
Everyone always asks WHY? Well some just kill because they can. The devil needs no reasons why? Joran can not control his rage. He preys on the week. Young Women!
weak young Women!
I have seen a better species of life under a microscope, growing in a petri dish, then what Joran Van der Sloot is.
I wonder if there are more victims out there, besides Natalee Holloway?
He is like a dog, once it kills the dog has the taste for blood and it will kill again and again and again.
This animal needs to be locked up for good or put into a terminal sleep. A Peruvian prison is just the place for him. They are horrible prisons.
They should make him tell the truth about where Natalee Hollowaty’s body is…so that her family can bury her.
Perhaps throwing him in a river infested with pirañas would make him remember what he has done to the two young women…
To beat Stephany to death was not called for.
An eye for an eye…a tooth for a tooth…beat him to death.
Sharon
~The Baby Boomer Queen~
Just coz Jipshit confessed & blamed the victim Stephany doesn’t mean Peruvian prosecutor’s are buying it.
He blamed Natalee too just as you all have said so i hope Peru LE keeps that in mind before they accept this “I didn’t want to killer her (Stephany”.
But what Jipshit? You had an obligation to beat her to death coz she looked at your laptop that You had out in the open?
I Don’t Think So.
how will the confession affect mama nita. she was involved from day 1. she knows exactly what happened and where natalee is. maybe now she will see that karma has come to take over their lives. someone said before, karma is a female dog. time to confess mama nita. tell what you know so that natalee’s body may be found and returned to her parents. if not, karma is waiting for you and the other two sons…………just a matter of time.
Anita is on her way to visit her delicious thick kissing sporter. Wonder how the citizen’s of Lima are going to treat her.
She’ll prolly ask reporter’s what kind of girl would go to a hotel room with her son they way she asked what kind of girl (Nat) would get into a car with her son & his 2 friends.
I love your posted comment. What a relief to see this Monster captured and scared-straight into a half a$$ confession.
Batman, Riddle Me This: when and how did he get her purse and the $5,000 in cash? Reports say the Peruvian Police Dept (PPD) retrieved Ramirez’s white purse in his hotel room, but it appears on the video that she entered his room empty handed. Me thinks the Killer step away from his hotel room not only for coffee, but to retrieve her purse w/ the cash from perhaps her car.
Justice will finally prevail…and since “Daddy” is dead, he isn’t going to be able to get pathetic Joran out of this one! Joran will suffer and suffer greatly in the Chilean prison system…I have read that the conditions in there are extremely harsh…which is absolutely WONDERFUL. He will finally pay for what he has done to innocent women. He will suffer and he will finally have to endure some of the pain he has caused so many others. Only wish he could be given life in prison without the possiblity of parole…
just a thought: If Stephany was killed in her sleep there would not be signs of a struggle nor defensive wounds. I don’t know how no one heard anything but I do not think she was asleep. If she had been asleep it would make more sense that she would have been suffocated.
I am not sure what to believe in this case! It all seems too odd to me: the fact that this peru murder happends on the first murder aniversary, the fact that Joran could have been arrested by the FBI and he wasnt, and Natalee`s mother meeting him in Aruba just before he went to Peru..see odd uh? how come he was smart, almost too careful with the first murder with Natalee, and now he has become so slopy? I mean anybody knows about cameras in hotels, not to mention it was under his name! why didnt the FBI arrest him, but let him go free with MONEY? Seems to me like a set up, I honestly have no doubt he killed Natalee, but with this girl, its just weird how a smart muder got to be so careless, almost if He wanted to get caught
She couldn’t have been asleep because she received a blow from the back and her chin is scratched, from falling in the rug
i really think its way to odd, and with that said, it wouldnt surprise me this is a set up from someone seeking justice or revenge.
_______________________________________
SM: Right, poor Joran is just the most unlucky guy in the entire world. I’m afraid DNA will do Joran in this time. He’ll rot in a Peruvian jail (klaasend)
#29 – Nice troll. However, in case I am wrong I will explain some things.
1) The FBI could not arrest him, he wasn’t in the USA. Aruba is the one that let him go, and they have their motiviations and views when it comes to Joran. According to them, the extortion wouldn’t hold up in Aruba anyway, and this is probably true given the long list of other things in that catagory.
2) Odd that its on the aniversary. We agree, it is very odd; but that’s all Joran and not the cosmos’ fault.
3) He wasn’t that smart the first time. He made up a stupid lie and involved too many people. His dad and his dad’s friends were smart. They aren’t in play anymore. What you are seeing now is what would have gone down 5 years ago without his father.
4) Maybe he did want to get caught….you might be right there.
5) Natalee’s mother did not meet him an Aruba. Her Lawyer did. He took the money and went to Peru. He couldn’t go to Peru then get the money that would make no sense. The order is as it must be according to the space-time theories available to us today.
((edit- a bit too rough))
….REST IN PEACE Natalie, Stephany and all his other victims whose identities remain unknown.
What I am trying to say with the “set up” that is more likely that someone was seeking justice or revenge for Natalee as Stephanie was murdered on Natalees aniversary, thats way too much of a coincidence.
then the other thing fishy is that Joran got money from Natalees mother, almost as trap so he would get out of Aruba ( and his protectors) and be incriminated in a murder like this: far from home and influence, where he would be the foreing and when you can buy police one way or the other, because yes Peru just like any latin american country can be corrupted to some degree.
Then again, the FBI acording to some notes ( i might be wrong) had the chance to arrest him, since Aruban police had an agreement with the USA in extorsion case, aparently they just took to long to set the arrest wich is fishy at this point.
I doubt he would have goten in this position knowing that his father is dead, he is in a foreing country, killing a woman in a room under his name and video cameras everywhere! if in fact that was all in a desire to get caught, he wouldnt have run away!
then again, im not saying poor thing of Joran, because I am sure he did kill Natalee, but this girl, im not so sure!
and DNA is not really an evidence of him killing her. They were together that night, and lets me honest, a girl doesnt go to a man rooms unless for sex, so surely there can be tons of DNA, but thats circunstancional evidence.
You can be next to a woman, and touch her hand, and kiss her, DNA will be there but does it mean you rape her? no. does it means you murdered her? no, its all circunstancional. Looks to me someone had a brilliant plant not that hard to execute as revenge and Joran felt for it.
________________
SM: I hope that was sarcasm.
R
Favorite past times of a sociopath, blame the victim.
Jean C. on HLN mentioned that there was a little white purse that was opened & empty in the room with Stephany & Jean makes note that it doesn’t appear that Stephany was carrying a purse of any kind in the video’s we’ve seen. Stephany’s jean & tshirt isn’t bulging from a purse so where did the purse come from?
I don’t see any purse either and i’m thinking since it’s been said she won money that she would NOT take her winnings with her into Joran’s room. I think she left that purse locked in her car before going to the hotel & that before he went to get those 2 cups of coffee he used Stephany’s car key to get that money & it’s reported he did move her car. Well how does him moving her car fit in with this confession?
It doesn’t.
Does Jurine deny moving her car? What about the drug pkg’s found in her car?
Stephany is petite & needs to sit close to the steering wheel…..was the seat rolled back so Joran could move it away from his hotel?
She hit him first? This confession is a pack of lies.
#31 -
Yeah right, someone seeking justice for one girl murdered murders a second totally random girl in order to frame Joran. Do you have to go to special training in order to come up with advanced thoughts like this?
Diane
“Killer step away from his hotel room not only for coffee, but to retrieve her purse w/ the cash from perhaps her car.”
_______________________________
I’m on the same page with ya Diane.
#38 you would be amazed what a person would be able to do if obsessed with finding justice, even if that means killing another girl.
Jonny – When we say DNA we are talking about his skin under her nails or her blood on his shirt. That is the kind of DNA evidence that is very damning.
10.. NewGirl, I was thinking on those same lines this evening before reading this ~ where can we send condolences to her family ~ is there a way SM?
Monkeys, we need to continue to pray for the Flores and Holloway families ~ they need our prayerful support.
Jonny, he is a psycho, they do unexplainable things! All in their best interest…
Jonny, I want to believe your heart is in the right place, but what you’re suggesting is batshit crazy. Actually, the sequence of events, the possible extortion happening so close to murder heavily suggests to me that this murderer was on some kind of insane psychopathic trip. He’s a predator, a woman-hater, a narcissist, a deranged murderer, who compulsively preyed on women whether it was by raping or murdering or emotionally (in the case of of the Holloway mom) tormenting them. He is sadistic. What is truly scary is how many women he possibly victimized during his travels that we don’t know about. I think there is a strong possibility that he’s a serial killer. What’s unfortunate for him is that he killed the daughter of a well-connected man. He’s going to last through the sentencing because the prestige this brings the peruvian govt is too much to pass up and they will keep him alive, and then he’ll be in a Peruvian prison where there are guards and prisoners ready to do the bidding of a wealthy grieving father.
jack hammer – go away. You probably have a shrine of Joran in your home right next to your Obama one. you’re a complete idiot.
johnny – you are moron. he’s a serial killer plain and simple. Natalee was probably his first kill as predators go from killing family animals to then drugging women to then killing. he has killed other girls besides these two..no doubt in my mind.
You are too stupid to see the FACTS that have plainly been stated.
He is caught on video with her. He comes back with two coffees, leaves with one with a change of clothers, she never comes out.
He CONFESSED idiot! Not sure it gets any clearer than that.
Yeah, I’m sure someone out there in Peru was so mad that he killed Natalee that this person somehow got in Joran’s room and killed this girl to set him up. I can not believe the stupidness of that comment or thought process. You’re a tool
!
Uh, idiot, the DNA evidence is the blood splatter on his clothes that he was carrying with him in Chile. Blood doesn’t splatter doesn’t occur during sex you sicko.
Guilty…throw away the key! Juron was talking smack about the girls at the poker table, then told the receptionist they did not want to be bothered… put the do not disturb sign on the door. She was following him like a lost puppy dog into the hotel room. Was she drugged? My theory… Juron drugged her drink, took her to his hotel room, she passed out, he tried to suffocate her.. she struggled, then he beat her to death. He then took her car keys, stole her money, then left. Nobody heard any screams. Had she been in a position to argue… she would have at least screamed. Where are Jurons wounds if she indeed tried to defend herself? Premeditated murder by a psychopath… let the Peruvian prisoners have at him! It doesnt matter how much time he gets… I dont think he will get out the prison alive!
That simple boy wonder go behind the victim and place your forearm against their windpipe and simultaneously take your other hand and push the head to the side in the opposite direction. Result is a broken neck and no screaming because no air can go through the larynx. In addition this would be done from behind which would be consistent with the fact that someone was sitting at a table typing into a keyboard.
Do you really think they had a heated argument?
FYI – I bet that the victim did not speak Dutch. However I would venture to say that she did speak English as does Van der sloot. Riddle solved!
Of course my heart is in the right place, I am not defending Joran in any shape, specially for what he did to Natalee, but this murder seems way to odd and freaky!
to Scott, there is no need to insult here. I think this a place for everyone to give their opinion! so maybe you could start to act with more class…
and yes he confesed, but let me remind you that Perus is not like the States, with that said, there could be cohersion so he would confess, or just said he did it so he would reduce his time in jail knowing that this is a whole he wont get out so easily…
I have more class in my pinky then you do in your whole being…for any MORON to come on here and say somehow Joran was set up because someone wanted revenge is just plain STUPID. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION.
You say you aren’t defending Joran but at the same time YES YOU ARE….you are making excuses and coming up with fifth-grade level theories of how this happened.
There is no way to have a confession coerced moron if they have evidence to back it up. The only need to coerce a suspect is if you didn’t have the necessary evidence to back up your interrogation.
They have a timeline. They have nailed her death down to the time she was with Joran by her stomach contents. They have her blood on her clothes. They have the fact that the room was rented to him up to the day she was discovered. They have the fact that he took her car and left in another place as to throw off the authorities.
There is NO DOUBT he killed others in his travels in the last 5 years. He was broke. He was financing his travels through robberies and probably more killings. He was broke. He tried to extort money from the Holloways.
And don’t tell me about the laws of Peru and the US. Do you live in Peru? Then STFU!
Don’t come on here all acting like you aren’t defending Joran when in reality you really are and you are as low as that scumbag Van der Sloot!
Scott… I couldn’t agree more.
Johnny – Joran confessed…so everything you say is completely ridiculous.
@ # 51
I think you shut up, the only real evidence we saw thus far is the video, and everything else has somehow “leaked” from police report. The guy is still a suspect, and although a setup may seem rare, it MAY be an option (for a 0,5% or something).
THERE IS NO NEED TO INSULT PEOPLE.
This is a public forum, no end of discussion, one could say whatever he wants. May be you should think of quitting the discussion if you only listen to your opinion.
Scott, as a MATTER OF FACT I am from Peru, so I AM POSITIVE police can do ANYTHING for 10 dollars, so you are the one that needs to shut up! because you are giving an opinion when I bet you dont even know where Peru is located in a map!
and I doubt you have more class that I do, and this is the fact: I can express my opinions without using profanity words and I can make my pount without insulting anyone or calling names. I bet you cant do that.
also Scott, if you are so smart and come to the conclusion he has been killing before and has been getting extorsion and robery money, why would he come to kill this girl in a room under his name and cameras everywhere? I mean really, why would he do that so to get caught and then run away? seriously, its contradictory!
SS
[...] the handle and beat Flores Ramirez to death, according to police reports of his confession. “The girl intruded into my private life,” he told investigators, according to Peru’s La Republica newspaper. “She had no [...]
Way to go, Scott! Beam the moron back to the “painted rocks”, where EVERYTHING can be erased and painted over, while guys like Dompig show up to lead the “no corpse, no case” darth vaders of existence through the savagery in Aruba left in the burying-re-burying rituals they like to inflict upon their victims,after innocent tourists are drugged, kidnapped, gang raped and murdered, once they are targeted at Aruban casinos, discos, and hotels. That’s the way they like to treat tourists in paradise.
Also Scott, you shoudl read the news now because two agents of the FBI are now coming forward that they did forward the money to Joran to actually build a strong case agaisnt extorsion..how do you feel now as american tax payer contribuited somehow to finance Joran’s hobby of killing? Now I wonder if you are blaming the Aruba goverment, you are just as guilty as well, because you do asure he is a serial killer, and yet again you forward money, knowing that he could get away anytime and what he is capable of..smart move FBI?
AT 53! Thank you, its nice to heard some reasonable people who can take other people coments as well and not just insult people whenever we do not agree..wich is weird do the fact this a blog to express opinion
little sad johnny….do some research on serial killers and socio-paths and its very easy to understand why he did that knowing or not-knowing cameras were there. That’s all speculation too! He’s probably too stupid to realize such things or the fact that he knew he got away with murder before he could do it again. The Zodiac killer sent notes and clues to his murders before he murdered them. Bundy driving around in a visible yellow bug after he let a victim escape. Dahmer keeping frozen pieces of human laying in his freezer.
I can’t help you are as dumb as the day is long!
No sir, the facts are the facts leaked or not, they have the official report of what evidence they have leaked or not. You know jack squat! Squat!
Mark Furman has been doing some investigating of his own in accordance with Peruvian police and has stated the things I have stated as EVIDENCE and what will be used as EVIDENCE. He’s a dead duck in water loser!
Your logic is screwed and warped and mentally challenged.
Doubt you are from Peru. Doubt you have a even a viable human being, just some scum friend of Joran’s.
Yep, you nailed it..LOL…it just happened to be Joran’s
Scott, I can imagine you are quite angry about what happened to Natalee and how the case progressed during the years. And believe me, you are completely right.
HOWEVER, there is NO need to insult people, accuse them of things, or whatsoever.
Can’t you just simply ignore one if it doesn’t fit with your opinion?
And I’m sorry to say that, but you currently behave at the same low level as Joran…
This is not even a mystery. The guy clearly did it. Jonny, I think you have some issues.
actually Scott, it would be more likely that you would be a friend of Joran than I would, just based on how you act when you get angry and frustrated! Joran murdered a woman suposely because she was looking into his laptop, and you chose to insult people who doesnt agree with you…..you both, yes both , you and Joran justify wrong doing when angry, whats is your next step kill someone when they dont agree with you? serial killers do have a start right?
winston – LOL! Yep I behave at the same level as Joran…sure….weirdo…
I don’t need YOU to tell me what to say and how to say it. If SM deems it inappropriate they won’t post it.
As for the extortion little johnny, that is OLD news. That was uncovered OVER two days ago.
No, Aruba and their corrupt LE and government is to blame for this guy killing again. The FBI did not finance his killing NOR did I nor did any other American. I applaud our FBI for trying what those scum bucket sun bleached Arubans couldn’t do. Get something to arrest him on. Besides, our FBI can not make arrests in Aruba. You may want to read up on some jurisdictional power of said persons in said countries!
I’m sorry, reasonable people don’t make up cockamamie stories about someone who is clearly without a doubt 100% guilty of killing this girl. He said so himself….that’s all you need.
All the information that has been released or leaked is TRUE…FACT! In case you don’t know how the world works, there are always “informants” or media members who have someone inside ANY police station in the world that they can go to for information. It happens all the time. How do you think the Sniper in DC was caught? Because someone in the police the media used as a “source” gave leaked information to the media.
They have him lock, stock and barrell! Done. Finito!
Explain then Mr. McGoo; who else killed her? Explain your lame theory without any facts to back up your lame theory? All theories have to have some factual information to base them off of…simple.
Yep…I’m sure Natalee’s family found out he was in Peru, hired someone to kill this girl in the name of Nataleee, in order to put him away for good?
If he didn’t do it, why’d he confess? Why provide details ONLY the killer would know?
He’s toast. It’s been WIDELY reported and accepted that blood splatter was found on his clothes in his back pack. He said he snapped her neck. He wouldn’t possibly know that the fact that he neck was broken was released to the media?
Since you claim you live in Peru, why don’t you go visit your buddy, maybe become his bride, something that probably fits your lifestyle.
okay guys enuff already. he’s in Peru now, NOT Aruba. he ain’t going no where no time soon. and even if, by some remote chance, he did get off on some technicality, the Flores family will never let him breathe one breath of free air. if released, as soon as one big toe hits the sidewalk he’s maggot food. this is Peru. they have balls. unlike aruba.
prayer for Flores family. god bless.
Scott, believe me, and I already said it 2 times, I believe he killed her, in one way or another. However, what I keep on saying is that the way you react shows you are actually frustrated and angry.
I can imagine you are frustrated and angry such a killer wasn’t put into prison before. HOWEVER, there is again NO need to shout and insult people.
The way you act at the moment shows however, and I agree with jonny on that part, that it may seems that you may even hurt someone which doesn’t agree with you.
I thought you guys would be smarter.. but it seems that you are simply some primitive hunters…
BTW, for the extortion part.. it was actually the FBI which said Aruba didn’t had to arrest Joran. The FBI was aiming to catch Joran to confess the murder on Natalee. No need to blame Aruba for this one!
Jonny & Winston—-I’m confused. Why are you both attacking other posters on this board in defense of Joran? Are you both saying that Joran VDS is innocent?
Jonny—if you are from Peru–we are aware that there is a lot of corruption there, as in all of South America. The US has plenty of corruption here as well—who doesn’t?
If colorful language offends you- you may not want to sign on or continue reading.
Americans are angry, and we fiercely protect our First Amendment Rights! We can say whatever we wish. You are also both free to express your own opinions. We don’t have to agree.
Most of us here started to visit this website since it originally began as a Website dedicated to information regarding Missing and Exploited Children & Adults. Many of us have been members here since Natalee Holloway disappeared in 2005.
Through hours and hours of valid reporting and many years of Scared Monkeys contributing to research & giving coverage to the case of Natalee Holloway–we are convinced that Joran VDS is and always has been the murderer of Natalee Ann Holloway and now Stephany Flores Ramirez.
Take the BS theories about his innocence and go elsewhere. We are not buying it! To be honest, I didn’t read all of your respective posts, but it doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that Joran VDS is a:
Narcissist
Murderer
Extortionist
Rapist
Human Sex Trade Trafficker
DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF! READ THE FACTS! EDUCATE YOURSELVES.
We stand by these two innocent girls. Van Der Sloot is scum and he deserves whatever is coming his way. ARUBA HAS HIDDEN EVIDENCE IN 5 LONG YEARS, and 2 GIRLS HAVE PAID WITH THEIR LIVES!
Aruba sucks. Joran sucks. Every corrupt official on that island sucks—the blood of these beautiful girls is ON THEIR HANDS. NOT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE—-VAN DER STRATTEN ON DOWN! Name them all. Read Dario. The list is long with all names of the dirty hands on the cover-up. Paulus Van Der Sloot is dead and took his secrets and the dirt on others to his grave.
Guess what? TIC TOCK…..TIME IS UP for Joran and the rest of those involved.
The House of Cards is beginning to fall, Aruba cannot keep up the charade any longer.
,,,,,,,,,, DEAD MAN WALKING ,,,,,,,
Joran VDS is f’d! Literally now (and in more ways than one) and he knows it. Deepak & Satish Kalpoe the RAPIST murderers are next to sing like a frickin canary. THEY KNOW, TOO. They were probably paid for their silence or threatened with their own lives.
THE GIG is UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
******* Justice for Natalee & Stephany *******
Klass—lost another post to the spam folder? Sorry, but can you check.
Thanks–what is up with WordPress? Frustrating.
_________________________________
SM: Think I got it. Not sure if it’s WordPress or the Spam checker or just high traffic. (klaasend)
They are going to spank his sweet booty in prison. He’s been a very bad boy.
at 69….Honestly I am not saying that Joran is inocent as to kill Natalee, I am just telling you i have my reservations when it comes to this particular murder here in Peru. seems for many reasons a set up to me.
and here, I have to tell you that we can really express ourself freely, as when I tried to explain why the FBI has some fault, my post are not aproved…
I do think Joran has serious mental issues, and I do think he should be in Jail for what he did to Natalee.
and about the curse and insults, is not that it bothers me or offends me, I just think as adults we can express ourself without cursing, using profanity or hurtful coments. I am not saying you cant express yourself, I am just saying to limit your choice of words and thats not a violation to your right otherwise the mere fact there is a moderator in this website would be a violation as well.
__________________________________
SM: Official statement by the FBI (klaasend)
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub8/BirminghamFBIStatement.jpg
Thanks, Klaas—maybe a combo all 3. Bet you’ve been extra busy since the story broke. Been a crazy week in Crime reporting w/Van Der Sloot and Peterson Case.
Wow.
[...] coffee for two as he claims in his confession only to come back and see that Stephany Flores was “invading his privacy”. So of course the next normal thing woudl be is to kill her. Oh, that makes [...]
this man is worst than a monster and honestly im not sure serial killer fits for a name..most serial killers muder the victim and run away. Joran has been tormenting Natalee`s family over the years, with fake hopes of closure as to finally find her body…this man has serious mental issues.
[...] teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005 by trying to extort money from them for information to themurder of Stephany Flores in Peru to being charged with first degree murder and robbery and incarcerated in a Peruvian [...]
I believe Joran has done this many times. His method of murder has been strangling them or breaking the neck, then getting rid of the body. This one fought back causing him to injure her in a way that made her bleed…alot. He could not walk away from this one. Even if he got rid of the body this time…the bloody room would point to him.
The story of her seeing anything on his pc and that provoked him is just another Joran lie. A pathetic attempt to acutally blame Natalie Holloway for this murder. He lured her there to kill her and take her gambling winnings. It’s obvious.
[...] and point the supposed marriage offers coming into Joran Van der Sloot. Joran is sick in the head, but what would explain woman who would even entertain the thought? Just a thought, but how would [...]
#41 Klaasend — Actually his skin under her nails would not be damning if you go with Jonny’s theory because she willingly went to his room, and that was more than likely to have sex. So yeah, if you were going with his theory then that particular DNA evidence would not be damning at all as I’m sure lots of women have skin under their finger nails after sex. I’m sure the shirt would have been “planted” or covered in blood later on and the results of the DNA analysis of the blood on that shirt switched or made to look like it was hers in his theory as well.
I don’t agree with his theory, so don’t think I do. I think he did it and I feel horrible that this beautiful young lady lost her life and I feel horribly for the loss to her family. Though his theory is a possible one, or at least it would be if he hadn’t already been accused of murder. No one is going to be accused of murders they did not commit twice, I mean really. He did it, for sure! Sick, sick, demented young man and I hope they lock him up and throw away the key.
[...] Van der Sloot possibly released after 6 years if convicted for the murder of Stephany Flores in Peru?Hardly. Van der Sloot faces up to 20 years and does anyone think that this punk will remain on good [...]
[...] as claimed by his legal mouth piece, when Van der Sloot claimed 21 year old Stephany Flores, “the girl intruded into my private life,” by looking at contents on his laptop regarding Natalee Holloway. Will almost six years of mystery [...]