Some Thoughts From a SM Reader … Iran: What if the people were armed?? Shouldn’t All People have Simple Freedoms?


The following is a guest post by a Scared Monkeys reader who was been moved and inspired by 2nd_amendmentthe people of Iran and their desire and quest for freedom. Simple freedoms that many of us in the United States sometimes take for granted. Imagine if the Iranian people had freedom of speech, the right to bear arms and assemble. The Iranian people just want their vote to count. That should be something that all Americans should respect, understand and support. How many times have we hear politician espouse and exaggerate the fact that voters were disenfranchised?

We have witnessed over the weekend the atrocities brought on those that would dare question their government over what is obvious to any thinking person a corrupt election. Why shouldn’t Iranians have freedoms similar to what you and I experience every day. Now imagine if your freedoms granted by the US Constitution were taken away.

Iran: What if the people were armed?

We hear from the anti-gun lobby now and again that America is the most violent society in the western modern world, and that the reason we are so violent is because of our liberal gun laws.  One can’t argue with statistics and we do have more deaths at the hand of guns than our counterparts (ie: Britain, France, Germany, Japan, Israel).  But that doesn’t tell the whole story.

When the great framers of our Constitution were debating this very issue in tap rooms and taverns from New York to Philadelphia, there were those that spoke out for strict laws about ‘the people’ (meaning the common folk, We the People) being allowed to own weapons. The arguments against guaranteeing this right ranged from the idea that the ‘common man’ could not be trusted with such weapons of destruction to the notion that if we have a just and free society, there would be no need for anyone to own arms except for our free society’s army.  Proponents of this right to own guns argued that there was not going to be a ‘standing’ militia so that in order to be ready to fight those who would try to conquer us, the citizens of this country must be armed.  Debate was vigorous. 

Wise minds prevailed and inserted the Second Amendment into our Bill of Rights of the Constitution.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


Pro-Government Enforcers
A Mousavi supporter is beaten by men with rubber batons. In the days after the election results were announced in favor of Ahmadinejad, brigades of men, some armed with hoses, clubs, truncheons and sticks appeared in Tehran’s streets, fighting with opposition supporters.

While watching the Iranian people peacefully protesting in the streets for the past few days, my heart ached for them.  They have been threatened with imprisonment, beatings, and death.  The latest news is that the army is throwing chemically tainted water on the protesters! Yet, they march on.

How different things would have been had the Iranian people had the simple, fundamental right to bear arms that we enjoy, and take for granted, in these United States.  While President Obama doesn’t see the importance of standing up for the Iranian people to seek justice in their elections in peaceful protests, I do.  And I believe the world does. (Hat Tip: Post by Tracy1)

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  • Comments

    25 Responses to “Some Thoughts From a SM Reader … Iran: What if the people were armed?? Shouldn’t All People have Simple Freedoms?”

    1. rightknight on June 22nd, 2009 2:22 am

      Guns: Year 2006 in USA, ~31K deaths from guns.
      ~17K from suicides, ~13K homocides (criminals),
      ~600 accidents, and rest assorted. That is the impetus
      to remove the right to own guns for the rest of ~300Million
      citizens who are entitled under the 2nd Amendment.

      Under mismanaged governments (like our current one) the
      ‘People’ end up protecting themselves. Governments can easily
      turn totalitarian on unarmed citizenry as well. You know, kinda
      the ‘greed thing’ that comes with abuse of power like we have
      going on now!

      Gov’ment don’t need no uprisin’s.

    2. Dolf on June 22nd, 2009 2:29 am

      They do have an armed militia (those Basji guys)
      SM: I do not quite think that is what the spirit or intention of the Second Amendment means. The militia in Iran is an agent of the govt.

    3. Dolf on June 22nd, 2009 8:46 am

      I know Red ;p

    4. nurturer on June 22nd, 2009 1:09 pm

      Dictators hate an armed electorate. Only, they don’t show that they are dictators until AFTER they are elected. Join the NRA. Send the message.

    5. Scott on June 23rd, 2009 7:40 am

      Idiots like Dolf and other moron suck at the tit of America Europeans…..The 2nd amendment applies to the United States of America, NOT that piece of shit country Holland (Netherlands), Germany, Gay France, Africa or Iran!

      I just wish Obama would untie the hands of Isreal and let them take care of Iran in 6 days.

    6. Dolf on June 23rd, 2009 9:39 am

      scott speaks

      as usual………….

    7. Scott on June 23rd, 2009 11:49 am

      dolf says NOTHING of relevance

      as usual…

      have ne body noticed this clown NEVER states anything with relevance?

      Typical neutral middle of the road NON-THINKER.

      Keep believing CNN stupid!

    8. Dolf on June 24th, 2009 1:55 am


      the best pr-guy the US can wish for

    9. Dolf on June 24th, 2009 1:56 am

      hows the bawm syndrom?

    10. ANewGirl on June 24th, 2009 8:16 am

      DOLF- Not for anything…can you please stop JUDGING anyone here in the US and acting like you know everything! YOU ARE NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN…period.

      And, know what else, Dolf? While perhaps not everyone may agree with him—the reason you write about poster Scott so much and with such negativity is because he has the GONADS to say what many AMERICANS ARE THINKING, but dare not to.

      The buck stops here. We are DONE with all the PC “politically correct” bullshit. We are going to continue to call them like we see them. Stop trashing America and Americans. You would not like it if we did the same in reverse to you or your Country.

      PS—France is a piece of shit country, too. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are men are buried in the sand of their damn beaches in Normandy and they pussied out and refused to come to our Aide. WE ARE TIRED OF BAILING OUT MOST OF EUROPE’S ASS TO NO AVAIL. We give and give and give and get NOTHING in our time of need from most of Europe (not all). So the French, especially can KISS OUR ASS from now on.

    11. ANewGirl on June 24th, 2009 8:18 am

      Re: Post #10: Typo: “OUR” not “Are” Men.


      Save your comments about our Country in general, Dolf unless you have something useful, factual and constructive to say.


    12. Dolf on June 24th, 2009 9:09 am

      NewGirl, scott doesn’t say that much, he swears.
      and when ppl insult me, I tend to give them some feedback, but its nice to know you side with him. Had a bit higher regard for you.

      second: I am not trashing the US, you and scott seem to do that very efficient.

      PS: I know thats why we in HOLLAND say that: France is a beautifull country, to bad the French live there.
      and the French didn’t pussie out, they tought that bombing Iraq would not be wise, kinda silly to bomb the stuff they just build for Saddam.
      and they still seem to think France matters

    13. Scott on June 24th, 2009 9:11 am

      LOL @ Dolf…

      Hey puddin…shouldn’t you worry about getting your mother out of the red light district?

    14. Scott on June 24th, 2009 9:12 am

      Newgirl – he’s going to throw some lame comment about how the Netherlands 5 military personnel are “helping.” LOL!

    15. Dolf on June 24th, 2009 9:15 am

      but at least we found common ground in something: our dislike for France.

    16. Dolf on June 24th, 2009 9:17 am

      nice insult to my mother scott…………

      guess it shows what “person” you are.

    17. Scott on June 24th, 2009 9:36 am

      what feedback? HAHAAHA your one-liners that do not mean a damn thing!

      I would bet that 95% (since Obama loves that percentage so much) of the people that post here would disagree with your assessment about who is trashing America.

      See, the problem is you have no idea what America was built on and what principles and morals it was built on and losers like you and other mindless liberals are trying to tear it down. Once again you open your mouth without ANY knowledge of what you are talking about.

      Yes the French did pu$$y out, they forget we saved their sorry ungrateful butts on SEVERAL occassions and then they had the audacity to piss our American solider graves at Normady after 9/11…. HAHAAA…nice country the French helped build. There was no country, it was a desert. Too bad the liberal press doesn’t tell America about the way the US has rebuilt that country!

    18. Dolf on June 24th, 2009 9:46 am

      3 Dutch soldiers got injured (2 badly) in Afghanistan.

      I’ll be sure to send your message to their families scott (why are we in Afghanistan…right the US asked us to help).

    19. Scott on June 24th, 2009 2:13 pm

      WOW – a whole 3 soldiers. The audacity? Unreal. 3 soliders to THOUSANDS!

      OK whatever.

      I don’t really care what kind of “person” you think I am. I really do not. I guarantee you I donate more to charity and do more for charity than you can even think of; especially charities for children and children’s blood mobiles, children’s hospital, st. jude’s, you name it.

      So again, I’ll let my life speak for itself and I only care what my wife and two kids think about me as a “person.”

      Like Tupac said: “Only God Can Judge Me.”

      OUR FUTURE, and for some reason you can not get through your thick ass head; they are the ones who are going to have to pay for ALL of this, NOT YOU OR YOUR COUNTR. I highly doubt you have children because you have no idea what Obama’s really doing to our children’s wealth.

      A second stimulus is coming whether he says so or not, I know for a FACT that another one is coming; its in the works now!

      Hey doofus, I lost a friend in the Pentagon and know several people in New York who lost friends and family so really whatever to your 5 soliders over there. So what we asked? Your response is PATHETIC, kind of correlates to how your government failed to protect an American citizen in one of its territories or whatever you call know Natalee Holloway..Joran?

    20. ANewGirl on June 24th, 2009 8:34 pm

      #12-Dolf—Just want to point out that Scott or I don’t trash our own Country per se…if there is something any American dislikes about the way our Country is being run…current issues,etc…I believe we all are entitled to voice our opinions…negative or positive.

      That doesn’t make us UNAMERICAN or ANTI-AMERICAN—simply that we are FREE to speak up for what we believe in…protest against what we don’t want or like, look for solutions to problems or lobby for changes.

      Glad you at least agree about France. Like I said, considering their past History with the US, they remain in my head…ungrateful, selfish, unappreciative and mostly…they just suck!

    21. Dolf on June 25th, 2009 5:31 am

      Scott, do you let your wife read the stuff you post?

      I don’t care that you agree with me or not or that you insult my mother.

      I do expect some sympathy and respect for our soldiers who are fighting and dying beside the US soldiers.

      btw. I also knew a guy who got killed in NYC….

      but again it shows what you are made off.

      no class, no decency, no humanity

      @20 NewGirl: there is a difference in giving your opinion and just been a blind insulting ass that goes by name of scott

    22. Dolf on June 25th, 2009 5:33 am

      and no no kid (yet) working on that :)

    23. ANewGirl on June 25th, 2009 9:07 am

      #21- FYI… We all know someone personally who died or somebody who knew someone with a personal story to tell from 9/11. You can’t have that many people die without the affect being as widespread as it was.

      Dolf—We are not haters on this site. We get a lot of Trolls and Moonbat leftists who ASSUME every one on here is a REPUBLICAN or to the RIGHT. They are mistaken. While I cannot speak for everyone on here who posts…there is a diverse mixture.

      Don’t let Scott’s colorful language or insults push your buttons. Remember—words are just words. But honestly, Dolf—if you are going to talk the talk around here—walk the walk. Actions speak louder than words and nothing is wimpier than any blogger who hides behind his computer, critisizes everyone about everything and does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING POSITIVE in their life to evoke change or support good causes.

      Not saying this is you, Dolf- but we do have a right to speak up for what we believe in and express our opinions any way we see fit. It’s kind of like that old saying my Grandmother used to say when anyone complained:

      “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

    24. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2009 6:31 pm

      #23 newgirl – still drinkin’ from scott’s chalise I see. Lol.
      Damn, you just wanna be accepted…why don’t you just get down on your knees in front of scott and….

    25. Dolf on June 29th, 2009 4:33 am

      and don’t try to defend Scott NewGirl….kinda takes away your credibilty

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