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American Airlines and American Eagle has cut and canceled virtually all flights from the US to Aruba. Further signs that not only has the increase in fuel prices made these cuts necessary, but also demand to the Aruban tourism destination. High prices of fuel are obviously going to be the public reason what is given for the cuts and cancellation of flights; however, it is obvious that if the demand for travel to Aruba far outweighed the fuel costs there would have been no need to make a decision for the cut back in air travel.
Effective September of this year, the direct AA-flights from New York to Aruba on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays are going to be cancelled. Also American Eagle’s flights from San Juan to Aruba and St. Maarten will be cancelled, same as the jet-flights between Puerto Rico and St. Maarten.
American Airlines Flying Away from the Caribbean
In the meantime, Caribbean tourism types are freaking out. Without planes coming in, how are all those sun-seeking tourists gonna get to the islands?
UPDATE I: Continental becomes latest U.S. airline to cut service
Continental’s announcement came a day after United Airlines said it was discontinuing Ted, its low-fare airline, cutting 1,100 more jobs on top of previously announced cuts and retiring a total of 100 aircraft. Delta Air Lines and American Airlines have announced similar steps.
Curacao falls outside; American Airlines’ economy measure (Amigoe 5/5/2008)
WILLEMSTAD – The two daily flights from Miami to Curacao are not as yet included in American Airline’s economy measures. AA will reduce the number of direct flights between New York (JFK) and Aruba drastically. American Eagle will cancel her flights from San Juan to St. Maarten and Aruba, and Bonaire will be left with 3 weekly flights.
Effective September of this year, the direct AA-flights from New York to Aruba on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays are going to be cancelled. Also American Eagle’s flights from San Juan to Aruba and St. Maarten will be cancelled, same as the jet-flights between Puerto Rico and St. Maarten.
American Eagle has already cancelled her two flights from San Juan to Curacao two years ago. AA increased her frequency to Curacao with two daily flights, of which the evening one spends the night on the airport of Curacao and returns to Miami the next morning. The company will possibly reduce the number of weekly flights from 14 to 10.
As a result of among others the high fuel prices, AMR Corporation, owner of American Airlines and American Eagle has started a big economy operation. Compared to last year, the company wants to reduce her foreign flight capacity with 10 to 11 percent in the fourth quarter. Of the 55 regional flights from San Juan, AA will cancel 22 by the beginning of September this year. That city is left with 18 of the 38 daily flights from the US.
Economic Affair’s minister Elvis Tjin Asjoe (UPG) attended a meeting of the Caribbean Tourism Organization (CTO) on the plans of American airline companies to reduce flights in connection with the drastic increase of the fuel prices. AA has meanwhile introduced a luggage surcharge as part of the fuel price increase.
Bonaire will be left with 3 weekly American Eagle flights from San Juan on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. The aircraft has 55 seats but these are almost never used optimally, because the aircraft must transport a lot of diving equipment for the passengers; and in addition to that, the crew must spend the night in Bonaire, which also involves extra costs; however the company won’t change that, which means that the return flights continue to be on the next day.
American Eagle every year transports 40 percent of the American tourists that visit Bonaire. Bonaire will loose about 25 percent of the total transportation capacity of travelers from the United States. The tourist bureau and island territory of Bonaire are looking together for possible solutions, like other airline companies for example.
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********** — NEWS FLASH — **********
STICK A FORK IN THE WHOLE PLACE, they are close to being done.
all who live in aruba can thank the killers and the cover up helpers.
CRACK PIPE SMOKERS – take note
hmmmmmm
thats a shame
NOT
The whole airline industry is in a crisis…they are placing surcharges on luggage and thinking about weighting passengers…if you are overweight it will cost you more to fly…
Well Aruba….you are now toast. Was it all worth it? Covering up for your buddy and his kid? Was it worth losing all of the evidence for this? Was it worth creating fraudulant statements, for this? Was it worth trashing the Holloway family? Was it worth throwing up all sorts of false witnesses? Was it worth recovering the body at the rocks only to say that nothing ever happened?
Was it worth AHATA (Aruban Hotel and Tourism Authority) creating a budget to fight and counteract bad publicity by bringing in a couple of crackpot psychics to denounce the Holloways. Was it worth AHATA admitting that they would aggressively counteract negative media (with lies, innuendo, and slander no less).
Well Aruba…we all could have told you, “I told you so.”
Now times are tough in the airline business due to fuel costs. As the airline execs step into their ‘war room’ they look at the places where traffic is no longer profitable. You, Aruba and AHATA, have created a situation where there is no traffic to your corrupt little island. You now are going to pay as it is not profitable to fly there anymore. Watch for Delta and Continental Airlines to follow closely behind.
Memo to Aruba – instead of spending money on Pay Per Click ads to try and improve your image, spend it on developing Aruba Airlines. The Caymans do this and this may be your only chance to get tourists. Heck, you could even offer coffee, tea, druggings, and rapings as part of your service!
Recovering your tourism is not going to occur with banner ads on websites. YOU ARE TOAST UNTIL YOU STEP UP AND ARREST PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT and fully prosecute and put him behind bars.
MD
if overweight people are being charged more.
i would not want to be ANITA
GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS….
ARUBA WILL NOT SURVIVE THE LOSS OF TOURISM DOLLARS:)
lol brie
well weight watchers and jenny craig…will certainly profit
its like the old saying says
your worth your weight in gold…
it wont be long before the other airlines follow suit…
people will not be willing to pay more to fly to aruba.. if their are any flights going there to began with….
aruba is on a major decline because tourism is their main source of income.. many workers rely on these tourists… hotel … resteraunts… etc.. employees count on their pay checks from the tourism..dollars if they work in the industry….
aruba will suffer greatly… like I said god works in mysterious ways …
think !!
he has a big hand in this!!!!
THE ISLAND IS SINKING!!!!
Aruba had 2 choices
Choice # 1
investigate and bring the killers (paulus and joran and others ) to justice
Choice # 2
cover up and blame
they chose number 2 and you left the rest of the
supporters for Natalee no choice.
Aruba = drug infested rathole
PATTI
the arawaks will have to sacrifice their own to perform their rituals..
soon there wont be anybody left…
with no more american girls to persue what will the pimp club do?
for everything there is a season …
a time to die
a time to laugh
a time to cry
a time to pay for your sins!!!
WE SEE IT HAPPENING BEFORE OUR EYES!!!
Continental Airlines is cutting it’s work force by 3000 people and taking 67 planes out of service…there will only be 375 flights to the mainland….reducing service to travelers in the US…
United Airlines is taking 70 more jets out of service….
The airlines do not see it profitable to fly all the way to Aruba with no tourists on board…cruise line aren’t going to waste the fuel to go that far into the Caribbean…
People wanting to go on vacation are now thinking about staying closer to home with shorter distance driving and no air fare….
in this article on Caribiana the Aruban Transport and Tourism minister sounds very worried.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20080605_briesen-prijzen
some quotes:
“The Aruban minister Edison Briesen of Transport and Tourism is very much concerned about the high fuel prices. This can have disastrous consequences to Aruba.”
“Briesen says he is actively looking to turn the tide
and avert the feared disaster. Already conversations have been with all sectors concerned on Aruba, ‘to prepare for a plan B’.”
“For Aruba this situation makes the future uncertain because the American market covers 75% of the tourism sector. “The complete economic crisis in the US plays a large role. For this reason we are looking at alternatives. This is worrisome. What will we do with our budget?”
#4- Mn Dad…. Great Post!
You point out to Aruba–> “You now are going to pay as it is not profitable to fly there anymore. Watch for Delta and Continental Airlines to follow closely behind.”
BINGO !
Heh heh heh…Payback’s a B*#@%…and it all comes down to the Almighty $$ in Aruab and covering their butts for the lying, murdering/rapist VDS’s and Kalpoes which their own CORRUPT OFFICIALS foolishly chose to protect. Oh, My.
-J4N
This site is sooo not 100 percent correct. Let me start by mentioning that what was mentioned about curacao, aruba nd bonaire is true. The facts are true, as for sint maarten, it is not true. AA will cancel the JET flight from puerto rico to sint maarten and cancel 35 of the 55 American Eagle flights from Puerto Rico and Sint Maarten. The JFK-SXM flights remain and the MIA-SXM flights also remain, though there are plans to reduce the JFK to sint maarten flight. So eagle will still fly to sint maarten. They use sint maarten as a hub to go to Dominican Republic, cause these people need visa if they go through Puerto Rico..
In reply to mister dad, that is soo low of you to talk about nathaly holloway and saying that its because of that. Sir pls fall back, cause USA has the most crimes in the world, so what are you talking about. Typical american think you are the world and like to bash others while your garden aint clean. Do research, talk about th many people you killing in the world with your uncalled war among other..
americn airlines aint even all that, they dont even feed you. Jetblue, United or other will take up these routes. They are glad that american is pulling out. Sint Maarten wont feel it either, cuse jetblue is doing geat thereand will do even better if american pulls out. they just started and their flights are fuller than jetblue.
Caesu…Quote from your post…
***“Briesen says he is actively looking to turn the tide
and avert the feared disaster. Already conversations have been with all sectors concerned on Aruba, ‘to prepare for a plan B’.”***
PLAN B…Tell the Truth!
Give us the Killers of Natalee on a silver platter…then I’ll work my butt off to help you get rid of the *BLACK SPELL* that has been put on Aruba….
Destiny…
Gerald….Jetblue just canceled an huge order for new planes….don’t you read the papers….jetblue is not doing great….dream on…
Gerald,
1) JetBlue is a Discount Airline. United is deep sixing their discount airline as no one can make money on discounted flights anymore.
2) Not sure where you get off on me linking Natalee Holloway to this. Here is how things work Gerald: Aruba covers up crimes committed by several priviledged Dutch inhabitants, Bloggers expose the cover-up, Governors of many states join in supporting a boycott against tourism to Aruba, Aruba gets black eye in the media as the fumble time after time in trying to come up with a logical explanation for why step after step they botched the case…..tourists decide to vacation in Mexico, Sint Martin!, US desitinations….but anywhere other than Aruba. Airlines feel the pain as they have empty seats. Empty seats translates into not making money. Aruba routes become unprofitable due to low loads. Aruba routes become unbearably unprofitable when fuel prices double.
Now, you have empty planes + twice the operational expense to get to and from Aruba….what do you do? You cut your losses and run.
The handling of the Natalee Holloway case is definately related to Aruba losing AA as a carrier. Watch for Delta, Continental, and others to follow shortly.
MD
#14- Gerald…no one ever claimed this site is 100% perfect or correct all the time…but at least we can read and write English. Also, SM reports news from across the world and also dedicates much of their forum to Missing/lost/exploited HUMAN BEINGS. (Not just American ones).
So, which Airline or Travel Group do you work for or represent? On second thought, Who cares. Really doesn’t matter but I can certainly tell that you are yet another non-American troll logging on this website for info.
Have a nice day.
-J4N
#14 another response for Gerald:
for a part you are right.
still Continental and Delta, United and US are flying to Aruba.
but the Aruba Transport and Tourism minister is very worried.
all due to the high full prices and the recession in the USA.
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20080605_briesen-prijzen
now they regret closing down the Lagos Refinery and basing their economy solely on tourism.
South-America isn’t going to bring the same amount of money in.
and Europa has their own sun holiday destinations close by.
some Europeans will still come for sure.
but for them the fuel cost is even higher because it is further away.
and Aruba is in no way going to compete with the Mediterranean and Red Sea tourist destinations.
The bottom line is the boycott worked in my eyes
because.. If those planes had been full this whole time they would not have cut those flights
Aruba will sink soon
Ouch! New York is Aruba’s prime market.
i dont care if aruba is effected by aliens landing from another solar system, or because of high fuel prices or if it is because of tourists that are unhappy with the hell hole island.
makes no difference to me.
as long as their economy SINKS. is all i care about. thats the bottom line.
see, they didnt care about Natalee and her family. so why should anyone care about the whole stinking island
got it ? good
thanks for your cooperation – please insert another quarter
both legs of aruba have just been taken out
now, to take out the ugly head
more pressure needs to be put on now, so that anyone that even considers going there gets the heads up
aruba blows chuncks
Gerald, USA has over 300 million people, and 3,717,813 sq mi. so naturally there would be more crimes. Noone here has ever said the USA is perfect. If you can find anyone missing in the USA from Aruba.that has been treated by the USA like Natalee and her family has been please let us know.
Right from the start, it was apparent, justice for Natalee was not the intentions of those in power as law officers for the victims of crime. Go check the crackhouses, go arrest 2 black men, search their houses at dawn and interrogate them, just don’t bother questioning, or searching the last 3 known to be with Natalee and was proven liars the first night. Wait 10 days, don’t bother to question why the 2 that own the car Natalee was last seen in were cleaning it before daylight. Don’t search the main suspects entire property for 2 years until the Dutch enter the picture. Question why Deepak’s car was at the Sloots the night Beth arrived, when Deepak said he was at work, then a casino, Satish was home. Why one of the guards said Deepak told him the Dutch guy and his father and the family sat around the pool and made up the Holiday Inn lie that would’ve had to been made up before it was public Natalee was missing, because Joran used it the first night. Why did Paulus come to the door woke up from sleep (he said) carrying a cellphone and wouldn’t you know he needed it to call Joran and then led everyone on a wild goose chase for over an hour to the Wyndham, when Joran was never even there. It would take a week to list all the things we have seen..that are beyond strange. Even Dutch investigators called it strange and unprofessional. Paulus made it known he worked with all these people for years and knew them well, including the main cop.. Jan Van Der Straten. a family friend. I believe they need someone to investigate the ones doing the investigation. Dennis Jacobs first thing he asks a father, whose daughter has been missing for about 3 days, how much money do you have? Go have a beer and watch your drink, they might drug you. Apparently they were well aware of people being drugged in their drinks at Carlos n Charlies, but what were they doing about it? nothing. Why isn’t that on the brochures to warn parents and teens seeing how Jacobs thought it was important to alert a father in his 40s? 2 confessions in the case. Deepak told John Croes Natalee put her hands down his pants in a chat session to throw off an investigation.. there was no investigation when he said that, noone even knew Natalee was missing yet. Father is looking up booze and drugs, the effects on young people and lawyers the night after Natalee goes missing. Anita calls Freddy over the house to ask a witness what they told the police. Paulus says no body no case, a day or so after Natalee is gone and the security guards are being arrested. Joran with a cellphone his father brought him jail. His lawyer Devries said meeting with the prosecutor.. a big no no.. The undercover tape of Joran telling one of the Kalpoes I should’ve killed you. or you will get 15 years if they find the girl and if they find her they will see the sh#t. Find me a missing Aruban in the USA with these circumstances. It has never been about the numbers of crimes anywhere. It has been about the total lack of respect and the callous disregard for the victim Natalee Holloway’s life and the hell her family has lived with everyday for 3 years now.
Still these people are trying to write books, paint and go on shows and sue to make money in the name of Natalee Holloway, while they are all alive and well and living their lives, just as they did pre Natalee and yet Natalee’s life is forever gone and a family is left with a big hole in their lives that will never go away. In 3 years it has never been shown that 1 person has ever seen or heard from Natalee again since she was seen leaving with Joran, Satish and Deepak from Carlos n Charlies. Joran btw told some of Natalee’s friends he was a tourist staying at the same hotel as them, 19 years old..all lies.
Seriously what parent in their right mind would want their child to go there? Who wants their child to be next. Nothing has changed.
Good for American Airlines…and American Eagle.. less young girls
Tain’t nobody going to Lie-Ruba, Gerald. You need
to re-edumacate yourself, buddy.
Aruba kind of reminds me of that old comedy routine.
(phone rings – picks up)
Ajax Mortuary… you keep sending them over…
We’ll keep putting them downnnnnn!!!!!!
–
R.I.P. Aruba.
You have not
the “high kung-fu”
to deal with this.
http://www.bucuticam.com/cam1.html
http://www.bucuticam.com/tarabeach.html
-JUSTICE FOR NAT
was it determind that someone on a sloot computer was looking up drugs and alcohol on the house computer. and when did that happen ? and has it been determind if it was KILLER PAULUS or KILLER JORAN.
now, how in hell can that be innocent
if it was paulus then he knew about the problem before he admits to knowing about the problem ?
hmmmmmmmm
i think lots of people in the mainstream ar enot aware of this info.
I was thinking earlier today, and
that can be very dangerous.
Aruba needs a new flag image overhaul! Now that everyone looks at the Aruban flag with about as
much zeal as looking at the Nazi flag, after the
way they have terrorized Natalee Holloway and her family for the past three years.
So, I got right to work designing them a new one.
I thought maybe we could soften it up a little
bit and put some flowers on it. I found two of
the prettiest flowers I have in my image database,
and put it together with Aruba’s favorite slogan!
I think it’s a friggin’ work of art, but I’m a little biased. Perhaps I need to phone Anita
Van der sloot’s polyester stretch pants wearin’
big a$$ and see if she could give me a true
“AR-TEEST’S CRITIQUE.”
Hmmmmmmmm… not sure. Maybe when the rates go down.
Elmo kick it ’round a li’l bit.
Anywayyyyyy…. here it is.
ENJOY IT ARUBA!
http://tinyurl.com/5ukqor
Reply to # 27… http://tinyurl.com/5ukqor
Carpe….that’s a flag I’ll salute any day!
Great Job Dude…
Destiny….
Katie:
God works in mysterious ways,
but all his ways are righteous and true.
We know who our King is.
And, as a result,
we may fall under ridicule
or even persecution.
I am not afraid…
I’ve place my trust in Him.
.
Justice for Natalee
and ALL the Others!
.
nice flag
Its about time, Gerald face the facts.
80,000 people disappear every year through the web of human trafficking. Aruba is a hub, between Venezuella, Colombia and the Netherlands. That is why it’s so important to find out where the discrepancies lie in the immigration numbers that have been reported to the Dutch by Aruba. They have come out and said that the numbers don’t match. Don’t believe, even for one minute that this is just about Natalee for there were thousands that have fallen before her and there will continue to be sacrifices made, inspite of our boycott. Perhaps, they won’t be Americans; but there is no guarantee. Besides, no matter what nationality they are, no one deserves to die such a humiliating death for their pagan gods… noone.
.
Boycott Aruba!
I want to see those other 170 markers…
And a hero came on and told us…
They’re getting their visitors
from Colombia!
Who was that?
.
Hey, Jossy!
Keep it up, Babe!
We’re lovin’ it!
.
Light the FIRES!
.
I can’t believe Briesen even has the nerve to show his face. We know Oduber is so arrogant, he doesn’t care what ANYONE thinks of him. He sticks his head up all the time!!!
But Briesen, the skimmer AND the rat!?!?!!!
I be layin’ lo….
.
The quieter they get, the more I know what
we are sticking on all those baz-tardios is
working. They all sound, act, look,
sick & tired and very weak.
Aruba, go to sleep tonight knowing
that Natalee has teams in America,
and all over the world, still intensely
focusing on her truth and justice
around the clock.
…and we will never let ya up! Not even to breathe.
You have successfully designed your
very own Van der sloot & Kalpoe
full fledged nightmare. Each one of
you who continue to do nothing have
made your own beds.
…and ya’ll need to learn
to enjoy sleeping in them!
Unfortunately for you, this is your new reality.
This has NOTHING to do with Natalee.Its a crisis affecting the entire airline industry///get over it
14. Gerald, thank you for your input and clarification about flights to Aruba. As for our crime, we don’t deny it, which Aruba did. We don’t think we are the whole world, but we are big and get bashed a lot. When we bash back or stand up for our own, many cry foul and tell us we’re arrogant. As for the uncalled for war, I believe some in our government lied to us. But I hope your news sources have told you about the heinous things Saddam Hussein did to his own people. He was a threat to stability in the Middle East and his hatred for America was well known. You also know he once invaded his neighbor, Kuwait. What would the world say if we invaded our neighbor? We’d be condemned. We’re not perfect, Gerald, but we will stand up for ourselves, as you are doing. I do hope that if you, your friends or relatives travel to the U.S., you are treated well. If something goes wrong, I hope you get help. Beth and Dave went to Aruba looking for their daughter and were treated very badly, make their tragedy worse. We watched Aruba cover for one of their own and blame the family of this beautiful American girl. We’re standing with the girl.
Hey, Johnny…
Better run home and tell your mommy…
.
Boycott Aruba!
.
Don’t be bitter Johnny… it is unbecoming.
http://tinyurl.com/4r3spd
Hello all… Aruba is dependent on the American economy which seems to be tanking and taking the rest of the world with it. America will bounce back ( I am not sure how, but it will ) but by that time, Aruba will have sunk. Even if they charge zero for their rooms, they aren’t going to make it. So saaaad. They had their eggs in one basket, tourism.
I’m sure that it is an economic decision that was made to not fly to Aruba by AA. However, we all know that the wheels of justice grind slowly. This is just part of the process. Aruba is going down. Trolls can get cranky, but Aruba is getting her just desserts. “A piece of bread would buy a bag of gold….” Too bad they all weren’t ready—-with the truth about Natalee!
Justice rules. Boycott rules.
molly in houston
TROLS YOU FACE THE FACTS This is about NATALEE…if the planes were full, the airlines would take them….SO SAD YOU PPL DIDNT COME CLEAN SOONER..The TRUTH will come out SOON, but it will be to late for LIERUBA….How dose that SONG go…YOURE GOING DOWN……
@ #22/23- Aruba IS a hell hole—-LOL …. And we have TONS of quarters for that machine !!! =) Only thing is, that UGLY head is still on the shoulders of Joran, Paulus, Kalpoes,etc. —the entire ugly Beast (which is) Aruba itself!!! Who/what will finally slay the One-Eyed Monster named LIERUBA? He has been wounded, for sure.
#27- Carpe- That’s a flag I’m proud to wave anyday.
#42- Molly in Houston— You are so right…Aruba is just beginning to get her just desserts! Let’s hope there’s a whole tray full remaining yet to be served!!!
-J4N
Yawn…
Talk about suggestive information.
The AMR announced last week that American Airlines is cutting 300 (!) flights and not only to the Caribbean due to rising fuel prices.
To suggest this has something to do with the dissapearance of Natalee is absurd.
There are still flying a lot of airlines to Aruba such as KLM, Martinair, Arkefly, Continental, US Airways, United, LAN and Avianca. And that for an island with less than 100,000 residents. So apparently there is a demand indeed.
Many things are not simplistic and this is one of them. Yes, there is a general contraction in the Tourist Industry in general. All will be hurt by this contraction, however a look at Aruba 3 years ago vs now is in order. Three years ago, Aruba was looking for a substantial increase in traffic with an increase in up scale traffic in order to save their bloated government. Aruba, however, has been stuck on Stupid for 3 years. Capital investment has run away and their customer base has reduced to smaller and smaller numbers concentrated in the North East US. Watch for this to further reduce to include only those having property interest in Aruba. Aruba has become a joke and a poster child of where not to go in the world. This coupled with their insane taxing decisions will produce a further decline in property values and income possibilities. If you own property there, it is probably too late for you to get out with anything..JS
Amster,
I know it is quite difficult for you…
…but PLEASE, I’m begging you, try desperately not to act like a douchebag.
The reason why they cut them, is because fuel is
sky high, and they cannot fill ‘em. When you make
a cut… you go for straight for the things you can really DO WITHOUT.
Much like in personal finances.
We can do without Aruba. I wish Natalee
did without Aruba, but that’s too late now.
Joran and the Kill-poes DEFINITELY had
a bunch to do with bringing the house down!
NOT BETH.
NOT DAVE.
NOT THE US MEDIA.
NOT SCARED MONKEYS.
NOT NATALEE ANN.
>Urine, Paul-a$$, das Kill-poes, and Aruba brought down Aruba… and that’s probably
a good thing for people who like living.
More proof for folks who do
not see that Patrick Van der eem
is an idiot.
—-
Justice for Natalee Holloway said:
Patrick, Like so many posters from Aruba you are very quick to point out that the US has crime. You are absolutely correct, Patrick, the US has a lot of crime, but this is not about the US. It’s about Aruba. This is a diversion tactic that you and your fellow Arubans put forth in an attempt to change the focus from the Natalee crime to general crime in the US. It simply isn’t about us this time, it’s all about Aruba. Aruba is responsible for the corruption and the coverup that followed the horrific disappearance of a promising young American woman who chose to celebrate a significant event in her life on your island. The way in which her disappearance has been handled is deplorable. After three years, we continue to learn of the depth of the corruption and coverup. It would most assuredly be a valuable learning experience for you to read the many hours of research and documentation of corruption and a coverup that exists at the scared monkey site. I am confident though, that you are already aware of this and you have probably personally experienced much of what we have put forth about corruption and coverups.
Contrary to the implications that you have made, we are not ignorant enough to believe that we hold every man. woman, and child on Happy Island directly responsible for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. It’s insulting that you would even suggest this. We do know that those who are directly responsible have been protected. We have no way to break through this web of protection with only our voices and requests. Our boycott of Aruba is intended to force the citizens of Aruba to demand what they already know should be the right actions from their government. Three years of pleas for justice have been to no avail. Perhaps by affecting the personal bank accounts of the Aruban citizens, we will finally see the culmination of our demands for justice. The Aruban people have certainly been quite vocal of late in demanding salary and overtime increases. Perhaps they will eventually also demand justice and right actions. Our basic requests are not at all outrageous. We are asking for honor and truth. These are two human rights that should be afforded to everyone on your island whether they are Aurban or foreign tourists.
We are appreciative of your efforts to expose Joran van der Sloot. We were supportive of you when you met with resistance on your recent trip to Aruba. You have most certainly been effective in keeping this crime and Joran, himself, in the media. We celebrate that your actions have most assuredly brought a great deal of stress and discomfort to the perpetrators. We also accept that as an Aruban it is most likely painful for you to witness any financial loss to your island. However, you must also be cognizant of the fact that we did not create the Natalee Holloway incident. Aruban/Dutch people created this problem and it is Aruba who must step forward with the correct resolution. Until this happens, we will continue to boycott your Happy Island for what was done to Natalee Holloway, for what was done to her parents, and for what has been done to other American tourists who have ventured onto your island.
We want justice, Patrick, and we will not stop until it is delivered by the government and people of Aruba. We will continue to boycott your island and I have no doubt that you would do the same if this had happened to a Dutch or Aruban girl on the streets of the US. Your pompous statements will only serve to fuel our anger and our resolve. I am sincerely disappointed to learn that you have known the van der Sloots for seven years, lived across the street from the Kalpoes, and staged the entire video with your friend Joran. You should be ashamed of yourself. I, for one, will not be purchasing your volume of fiction and I have no intention of stopping my boycott of Aruba.
—-
RESPONSE PATRICK
Dear Mr or Mrs. Smith
I don’t see any new point of view in this that has not already been discussed. But you had not posted yet, so I give you some space. I notice again that you are also one of these scared monkeys who have consipracy on the top of their minds. It is not a diversion tactic and I don’t have fellow Arubans I even spoke with this about. Of course it is important to realize that a kid – just as example – lives in a far more dangerous world in the USA as far as crime goes, than in France, or Germany… or Aruba. In the sense of a call for a boycott that says all. Cover-ups, corruption and bad actions of dirty authorities also happen in the States. Let me say it very simple, if Natalee would have been black for instance the media would have not paid that much – if any – attention. Also that happens in your own country many times. Focus on your own faults, I have already focused on the one that happened 3 years ago in Aruba and I’m still working on it.
For the rest, see Soph, she all summed it up correctly.
Greetings
——
patrick va der eem:
Of course I do not believe “the government” of Aruba or “the autorities of Aruba” organized a cover-up. The only thing I can say is that some of them did not react very sensitive and said things which hurt Beth and Dave and all people in the world who are shocked when a young girl’s life ends like this. About a cover-up of the people who have a direct interest in the case, or when it is about spreading manipulative information, like Castro duid about the case and about me, well, there I can imagine people are unhappy. But that is the action of those people.
Oh, and Jason, I’m not afraid of anybody, so don’t worry. I can take care of myself.
Greetings,
Patrick
—
You’re a friggin’ idiot, Patrick. This isn’t BREAKING NEWS for you, I hope.
Give us that award winning smile again, Pat!
http://tinyurl.com/58k34s
Thanks, Carpe.
I find it ironic that he should try to discredit any conspiracy theory, while it is evident that he conspired with Joran and Company to try to fool the American people with his fake ‘sting’ operation.
I want to know what’s in those other markers…
How I can help?
.
Thanks,
Patti
Hasn’t Briesen already used plan B?
It seems we have been here before and the Governments ingenious plan B was to ask Queen Bea for more funding…
So I wonder what plan C consists of?
.
Amsterdamned:
Even BIGGER Yawn from me…
If it wasn’t about Natalee,
You wouldn’t be here…
Stick a sock in it!
.
Slay the Dragon!
.
One of my favorites parts, Patti,
is when Van der eem
“Dat Big Dummy!” -Fred Sanford
goes on to say that this is not about distraction
tactics whatsoever…
yet in his very next sentence,
diverts from talking about Aruba by pointing out
illogical comparisons to crime in other countries
all over the world. The ABSOLUTE BEST… is when
he drops to the hypothetical “If Natalee was
black.” Now at this point, I have 5 alarm bell sirens going of… because the only time race
has EVER been hauled out in this case… is by
ignorant, filthy, lying Arubian/Dutch bastards,
ala Van der sloot & Kalpoe.
Now, he’s off the
charts. Whomever paid him, should have given
him a little extra to shove his foot in his mouth
when they were done USING HIM, because he’s a
bleedin’ dope!!!! Proof abounds with every keystroke.
Patrick Van der eem… you are a female toy. You should go run and buy some batteries and package yourself. (make sure they’re Energizer) -j4n
Carpe:
fEmale toy?
LMAO!
He’d end up in the trash!
.
He’s a wanna be.
Remember the letter?
His needs are so obvious!
He want’s US to stop.
Why is THAT so important to him?
.
This is the third year.
Since Natalee disappeared,
so did 239,999 others;
nearly a quarter million.
.
Do we know, for sure that Joran is in Thailand?
.
Why would he go THERE?!?!?
.
Kaye:
Was it, ever, confirmed that he went there?
Miss Katie:
Do you remember whether Richard confirmed that Joran was in Thailand? I don’t think he ever did.
The last thing I remember him saying about it,
was that he was hoping somebody didn’t pick up the soap…
LMAO!!!
.
Surely, Queen Bea wouldn’t allow… that?
(just kidding)
But… you get the drift…
.
I feel so sad…
Please, stay OUT of ARUBA!
.
#55…Patti- I know what you mean when you say you feel so sad about Aruba and this crime not being solved….truly… it gets so discouraging.
Yet something tells us to hang in there…and stillll……..Believe, even when it is hard.
I have given up hope that those who were directly involved in this injustice will ever be punished for their crimes. But I won’t give up on the girl! I’m standing with the girl—just like Lil Puma says.
I hope and pray that one day, her remains can be recovered. That’s all Beth & Dave Holloway have ever wanted….is to bring Natalee home. =(
Hopefully Tim Miller and Equusearch/Persistence can recieve more funding when it becomes available…hopefully fuel prices won’t stay this ridiculously high forever.
-J4N
****** GONE BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN *****
Carpe on June 5th, 2008 5:54 pm
The quieter they get, the more I know what
we are sticking on all those baz-tardios is
working. They all sound, act, look,
sick & tired and very weak.
Aruba, go to sleep tonight knowing
that Natalee has teams in America,
and all over the world, still intensely
focusing on her truth and justice
around the clock.
…and we will never let ya up! Not even to breathe.
You have successfully designed your
very own Van der sloot & Kalpoe
full fledged nightmare. Each one of
you who continue to do nothing have
made your own beds.
…and ya’ll need to learn
to enjoy sleeping in them!
Unfortunately for you, this is your new reality.
**********************
We all love you, Carpe!
**********************
J4N
patti
no he never did confirm where joran was werher thailand or anywhere else.. it remains a mystery.. I dont think he is in the nut hut do u
and your right and my trust is also in god.. dont care who redicules me its what he does that matters:)
Thank you, Miss Katie and New Girl!
I think this idea to post the letter in the newpaper was a great one. They did a good job on it. Destiny, I’ve never met you, but you have my utmost respect. I will be praying for a hero until one finally comes. I hope the leads received by the F.B.I will pan out and we can bring down the barriers between us and Aruba. I think we have tried our best to be forth-coming and honest with Aruba; and now it’s up to them to make the next move and I hope it’s a good one.
We are not going to accept anymore lies… only the truth. We have all the right people on our side, the F.B.I., the State Department, the United Nations, the Law and most of all, our faith. We are not going away until there is Justice for Natalee and assurance that nothing like this will ever happen again in Aruba or anywhere else… to a child, because of her innocence.
May the angels continue to bless our efforts and to guide us on our journey into the unknown. May God give us wisdom to direct our steps, protection both day and night and his trust and love that we can be a beacon, shining in the night for the world to see, as we try to solve the great mystery and guide Natalee home. Again, we pray for a hero… a brother in kind, that can help us on our journey.
We thank you for your patience as we are all imperfect and we ask for your forgiveness where we fall short of the glory of God. We ask all these things through Christ, our Lord and King, who gave his life that we all might live. We pray for the day that He will bring an end to the violence and suffering upon the earth. But, until that day, we remain your humble servants.
Amen!
Lieruba
You have been allowing the young men on your Island to drug and rape young tourist girls for YEARS and NOW you have been exposed for the uncaring people that you are. I would very much like to be proved wrong. That you do care.
BOYCOTT ARUBA JUSTICE FOT NATALEE
SUPPORT FOR BETH AND DAVE
Im going to DC…even if I am the only one. It makes me very sad to think that many more wont join me…very sad indeed.
Hey Monkeys ! The airline crisis is an international thing. Beacuse of high oil prices many airlines are getting in trouble all around the world. Has nothing to do with your sad little boycott. Don’t come with your beach webcams. It’s low season at the moment, a yearly recurring event. Aruba goes on and will survive.
For those who still need proof Joran is or has been in the far east, check this copy of his passport
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/99161/44b3ea3a/dit_paspoort_is_viehies_.html
I say Te Aworo !
Hey Don Juan:
How is it that YOU or anyone else, for that matter, should have a copy of Joran’s passport in the first place? You’re right the airline companies are in a crisis and our hearts go out to all those who have been laid off, or otherwise affected.
But, the truth is, if the planes that flied to Aruba were full, or even 1/4 full; they wouldn’t have been retired. THAT should tell you something. In case you haven’t already guessed, Americans are not going to Aruba, don’t want to go to Aruba and are in support of the family of Natalee Ann Holloway in respecting the boycott AGAINST Aruba.
Take your fake passport and say ‘TE AWORO’ someplace else…
We say:
Justice for Natalee!!!
.
Vicki:
When is the trade show in Washington?
Don, you whole butt,
Last season was supposed to be HIGH SEASON,
but it was LOW SEASON.
This season is LOWER SEASON!!!!! ROFLMAO
Hey, Didja ever notice all of you dumb azz Arubans are full of a bunch of excusesssss?
-Andy Rooney
-j4n-
#57
Luv ya too.
BOYCOTT ARUBA 2008
JUSTICE 4 NATALEE!
Oh Patti, the copy of the passport is from a Dutch website, not from me personal. It’s real, believe me. When you are travelling lots of copies get made of your passport (when renting cars, staying in hotels). But you don’t get out much, do you ?
Your arguments on the flights don’t hold. A plane filled only 25% is a great loss for airlines with current kerosine prices and will de omitted from the schedule. Airlines face a loss of 4 billion EURO with current prices. Heads will roll. Everywhere. And sorry, but even in the low season there are still plenty American tourists here on Aruba. You make the big mistake of talking on behalf of all Americans while you know that America is as divided as any country. You take pride in you individuality (on which your nation is based) but in cases like this you presume that you think and act as one nation. Well wake up you aren’t. Just as not all Arubans are responsible for Nathalee not all Americans are boycotting Aruba. I fear even it’s only you here.
Ah, Carpe!
You just made my day….
.
Let’s get busy!
.
We HAVE to get the Persistance back to work.
.
-j4n-
“but even in the low season there are still plenty American tourists here on Aruba.”
….
Really DON? Mr. Authori-torrrrr?
WHERE ARE THEY? Are they hidden? Every camera on the island, has not a soul in the frame-shot.
Reports of hotels at 50-60% capacity!
No tourism report numbers that can be verified
by people WHO TELL THE TRUTH, FOR 1 – 2 years
now.
THE CBA telling everyone a lower standing of
living is unavoidable in Lie-ruba.
FACE IT, buddy. You morons shot your credibility
up worse than a John Wayne Old Wild Wild West
flick.
Nobody with money comin’, Don.
Aruba is a disgrace to the Caribbean & the world.
Don Juan…
Not interested in debate about the division of our country or anyone else. We stand united, here at Scared Monkeys and we get the word out. Everyone makes their own choice; however, there is no denying that your numbers have fallen into the red. Aruba has been operating in the red for the past two years and Oduber has lost his popularity as his corruption has started to effect his people, as well.
All fine and dandy that the Arubans thought he was the bomb when things were flourishing, but how do his people view him, now; knowing that he is lining his pockets with THEIR money and selling the island’s future to the highest bidder? Is it fair that the honest people of Aruba should be the only ones to suffer?
Don’t take it up with us… Use your voice to save yourselves from your REAL enemies… the crooked Parliament that has left you to resorting to criticizing us for their mistake.
And, what? You think that just because something is posted to the internet from the Netherlands, it’s real?
Eat Crow!
.
I don’t care if I’m the last one standing…
I stand with the Girl!
… and her name is Natalee!
.
Mark Don Juan off the list of heros.
.
Say Bye Byeeee!
Flush…
Two Kalpukes and a Few Dutch Turds!
.
Stay out of Aruba!
LOL PATTI
YOU PUT DON JUAN IN HIS PLACE..
hey monkees we stand united for justice..
Now, I know what Vicki means by the word ‘troll’.
He didn’t even spell her name right…
I think she may be tight
when she says the Devil marks them.
.
Imagine, making up a website to post
a fake passport of Joran Van der Sloot!
.
It’s not just Joran that is rolling in their sweat.
The whole island of Aruba must be cooking right now.
.
Only the intelligent Arubans will be posting for awhile.
.
United we stand,
Divided we fall.
.
Don’t sha just LOVE Aruba!
Oh Patti, believing everything inside your head can be a dangerous thing.
“Imagine, making up a website to post
a fake passport of Joran Van der Sloot!”
This was posted an very popular satiric news site which has had constant attention for Nathalees case and not afraid to bash Joran van der Sloot, Peter R. De Vries or Patrick van der Eem.
Also the passport is not fake just because you think it is. As your boycott is not working just because you think it is.
Te Aworo ! Good luck with your boycott !
Since things are so slow around here,
I took it upon myself to come up with this article
from the Amigoe, Today, June 7th, 2008
*
Gas from Colombia for the production of electricity and water
ORANJESTAD – As respond on the increasing oil prices and its negative consequences for our island, the government has decided to import gas from Colombia. The electricity supply can be altered to use natural gas instead of fuel oil for an estimate of 20 millions. The production of electricity and water becomes 40 percent cheaper because of this, said Premier Nelson Oduber yesterday. “Besides, it’s going to be cleaner.”
The premier of Aruba made these comments during a press conference yesterday. He is just back from a working visit in Colombia. He took part as listener in the General Meeting of the Organization of American States (OAS) in Colombia. He met with the Colombian president Alvaro Uribe last Sunday discussed among others the energy policy. Uribe suggested supplying Aruba with natural gas, just like Colombia does with Puerto Rico, Venezuela, and Panama. They agreed that the ambassador for the Kingdom will start negotiating today with the Colombian minister of Mining and energy. A delegation of representatives of WEB and Elmar intends to go to Colombia and work out the further details afterwards. This is an historic moment, said Oduber.
The premier says that altering the WEB to use natural gas instead of fuel oil must be possible in one year. WEB will take care of the costs, about 20 millions. The natural gas will have to be transported by ship in the beginning, but the construction of a pipeline must be considered on the medium- and long run. This pipeline will have to run via Venezuela to our island. Oduber thinks that this may take about 3 years. Apart from using the gas for the production of electricity and water, it can also be used for cars and in the houses. Oduber does not abandon the thoughts of other alternatives like wind- and sun energy, but these can only supply the island with a limited amount of electricity and water. Other energy sources like pet-coke and pitch are too expensive, says the premier. Also the deepwater cooling is no option. “We do not have deepwater here.”
Aqualectra-director Anton Casperson cannot judge the Aruban situation, but he considers 40 percent cheaper production costs for Curacao not reasonable. “Gas is indeed a serious option for us; especially from environmental considerations in combination with wind.”
Aqualectra is not in negotiations with the gas suppliers as yet. “The investments are high, and you must earn these back.” Aqualectra is in the process of adjusting the long-term plans as committed in the Plan 2020.
.
Hey, Carpe:
Looks like we know Aruba better than they know themselves. Wouldn’t you know that the ol’ magical genius would choose to pal around with his Buds…
Not only does he have cocaine and Ecstasy
coming from Colombia,
NOW, he has GAS!
.
Golly, Gee…
I wonder who Colombia
get THEIR oil
to make their gas?
.
Bingo, Bango, Bongo…
.
He wouldn’t DARE buy his gas
from the company that just bought THEIR
refinery!
OH, NO….
Must put the Colombian’s to work!
.
Where did he go to school?
.
The Arawak College of the Arts!
.
Hey Don Juan!
Lookey Here!!!!
What do you think of him, NOW?
.
Communist bastarito!
.
Plan C:
Hook the Queen Bea up for well,
well, well, WELL over 20 Million.
What a joke!
They don’t have the brains to hook a pipeline
from their exhaust pipe to the trunk!
And they think they’re going to build a pipeline
from Colombia to Aruba?!?!?!!
.
AND
THEY were in Columbia, lastnight!
.
Light the FIRES!
Told ya…
I’ve been invaded by my grandson…
He’s three.
Love you, all…
each and every one of you.
.
Bye!
“As your boycott is not working just because you think it is.
Te Aworo ! Good luck with your boycott !”
—-
#75
DUDE, keep saying it to yourself.
We have eyes,it is working beautifully!
If you lie to yourself, you have no problems
with lying to others. You’re are in a class
with Joran Van der sloot on that one.
Now then,
Go run and fetch me his sneaker! I have a measuring tape I want to stick to it.
Carpe:
Aruba listens to you…
They came up with their most ingenious plan.
.
Personally, I’d rather put up a few windmills
and pump water to the whole island and make it
like one big golf course…
Golf Carts, Only!
Like the Bahamas.
.
He’s so arrogant…
He’d rather build a pipeline,
than to admit he was wrong.
.
Now you see it,
Now you don’t!
.
Boycott!
Hi Don,
We know better dont we
Hey Esther ! Good to see you here again. We sure do know better. They keep on chanting here, but Aruba goes forth.
Patti, calling me a communist is so easy. It looks like you are running out of real arguments. You don’t even know me, but you presume to know my political views because of where I live. Mmmmmm. Where did I hear that one before. Te Aworo !
Aruban Tourism 2008: A Global Overview
Saturday, June 7th
Webcams-
http://www.bucuticam.com/tara.html
http://www.bucuticam.com/tarabeach.html
HELLOOOOOO GRANDMAWWWW!!!
http://www.bucuticam.com/bucutizoom.html
Playa Linda Hotel
http://tinyurl.com/69p3z7
Cooter’s Tavern – Aruba
http://tinyurl.com/58k34s
Te Aworo, up on that.
-j4n
“NOW, he has GAS!”
—
If there is one thing Nelson O’Duber of Aruba
has plenty of, it is GAS. An endless supply!
Rolaids spells relief.
Haha… funny picture of the dog Carpe…
hey carpe
how does this sound take oduber to a gas pump and fill him to the brim with diesel…
you will see smoke coming out of one end and I dont have to say which one lol lmao
know better
no one in aruba knows better.. if you do your in denial if you dont your brainwashed…
its like when someone sees a tornado coming… and they refuse to believe it and suddenly wham… all the warning that were given to you went to deaf ears…
because you refused to see what was coming…
until it was to late
thats what we have been telling you about aruba….
you see all the signs there… you seen the economy going down the toilet… and still because of pride and because you dont want us to be right… you continue to deny the facts….
and that is truly sad…
people like you no one can reach because you live in denial….
ester
I dont dislike you … after all you are a product of your inviroment… you have the right to protect your island even though you know your wrong.. sometimes you come here and I read what you most and you actualy sound helpful and sincere and than just like that you switch… thats when you feel like your betraying aruba…. I feel sad for you and your island… none of us here want anything better than to see justice for natalee by bringing her remians home….
you sway beteen right and your loyalty…
your doing what you feel you have to and therefore try to understand we do the same…. give us the respect we need to fulfill our goal…
as for don
I dont know he is attention seeking… quite alot like you when I first met you here…. he is feeling like he has to be loyal to aruba… but aruba would sell you both to the dogs if they had too… your govt is corrupt…
but than you know that… but you think that if you keep coming here saying no no we arent it will make aruba better…
nothing will ever be the same in aruba…
your loyalty is good but to someone that deserves it
please quit wasteing good energy on aruba.. they wouldnt be there for you… dont be naive
accept the truth and help those that need you in aruba….
dont defend something dirty and vile…
make a difference.. unite as citizens and take your island back
the end
ester
you say to don
we know better dont we
well see thats is my point you do know better
dont just come here to get reaction… critique whatever those that love natalee are saying and doing !!
now I ask you are your kids proud of you
I hope your not instilling hate and contrite on them…
because it gets you no where….
yrs of brainwashing can be reversed…
try it…
kindness and a few nice words go along ways
you get more with honey than lemon
OR VINEGAR
I guess I was wrong…
It isn’t the intelligent ones posting today.
.
Let me ask you, Don or Ester, either one…
What does Aruba need with all that Natural Gas?
It’s not like the whether gets cold there.
There’s hardly any need for air conditioning…
And, yet, your Prime Dimpster is going to spend
over 20 million dollars (which is a joke) to lay
a pipeline between Colombia and Aruba?!?!?
.
Don’t you think that it might be a bit of an over-reaction on his part, considering there are less than 100,000 people on the island? There are cheaper ways to go and, believe me, this ‘pipe’ dream is only an arrogant man trying to act like a big shot!
But, then again,
that describes Aruba to a tee…
Big-City Gangsters on a little, tiny island.
How much natural gas do you think
it would take to ‘heat’
an island 12 miles long?
You people are just plain stupid!
.
Hey, Oduber!
Get that straw out of your nose
and do the math…
.
And Don, you’re right, I don’t know you…
But I do know enough to know…
You’re SCREWED!
.
And… pipelines are my speciality!
Morrison Knudson Rivers…
The largest pipeline company in the world.
Why don’t you ask them how much it’d cost
for that ingenius project…
.
Go for it, Aruba!
We love to see you fall right on your face,
over and over, again.
.
Why? Oh why? Oh why?
.
.
Carpe:
You’re so funny!
My son became a father when he was 20…
So, yes, I’m a grandma!
My daughter took him to Chuck E. Cheese,
today, and brought him here for a swim.
You know how excited they get at Chuck E’s…
So he swam, like a fish, had dinner and
went back home to his family.
He’ll sleep sound tonight…
.
MissKatie,
I always said that i want justice for Natalee!!
The thing is that you are so hostile towards Arubans and its like you want us all death.
Hey, Don Juan…
Hint:
Read my comment, again.
Who did I call ‘communists’?
.
Say Bye-Bye!!!
.
Anyways,freedom of speech..
But 1 thing,if you wish the worst for someone it will always come back to you…
I love ya, Miss Katie!
You’re so patient with them.
.
LMAO!!!!!
.
Patty are you really are grandma????????
Poor children,sorry………..
It’s okay, Esther.
My children are happy for the most part.
They’re not poor
and
you don’t have to feel sorry.
I know you don’t like me.
.
Like Miss Katie was saying:
We don’t dislike you or your island.
.
We hate drugs,
We hate crime against children,
and
we hate gangsters.
.
Just think of us as Natalee’s Police.
You might have an easier time understanding us.
Okay?
.
Ester:
Trust me…
We don’t hate you.
We don’t wish harm on you.
In fact,
we want the boycott to be over,
just like you.
.
Did you know that Oduber told his police troops
to hide Natalee’s body, instead of sending her
home to her family?
.
We are very angry about that. And when we read the newspapers about what Oduber and the other ministers are doing to you, we get angry about that, too. We can’t help it.
We care about you more than you
could ever imagine.
.
Miss Katie:
Are you here?
I think Queen Bea needs to go back to Aruba and build it into a country that is not reliant on the drug market, human trafficking and money laundering. It’s sad that Nelson Oduber has these people wrapped around his finger so tight, they’ll believe anything. Jossy is a very bright man and I’ll bet it hurt him to have to print that article about the latest and greatest scheme on the part of Nelson Oduber.
Someone needs to get a grip on that island, educate the people who live there and give them a life that consists of more than just seeing to the needs of the wealthy, running drugs and pimping women. If it were only the citizens doing these things, I’d blame the police; but in the case of Aruba it is the Parliament that is doing them, too.
Once again, it is the innocent, naive and uneducated that suffer the most. I, honestly, don’t think they even know what is going on, right under their noses… either that, or they just don’t care. Either way, my opinion is that these are the results of years and years of living under occupation.
So, Queen Bea, get yourself back over there and work YOUR magic in the humanitarian department and clean up the island that you have left to fin for itself.
It’s sickening!
!!!!!!!!!!!!NEWSFLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!
They slayed the Dragon last night!
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/missing-divers-found-alive-on-island/20080607153809990001?icid=1616058736x1203767589x1200411235
Missing Divers Found Alive on Island
AOL Wire Services
Posted: 2008-06-07 18:13:48
Filed Under: World News
JAKARTA, Indonesia (June 7) – All five Europeans who went missing while scuba diving in treacherous waters off eastern Indonesia were found alive Saturday on a remote island, police and family members said. The divers reportedly battled a komodo dragon on the island.
Amazing RescuesOby Lewanmeru, APFive divers were rescued Saturday after surviving 36 hours floating treacherous waters and wandering an island off Indonesia, where they reportedly fought a deadly komodo dragon. Here, they arrive at Flores island after their rescue. Click on the photos to see more amazing rescues.
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The divers – three from Britain and one each from France and Sweden – were rescued following a massive sea search in the area where they were last seen Thursday plunging into the water from their wooden boat, said Lt. Col. Buce Helo, a local police chief.
He said the five had drifted more than 12 hours before arriving at Rinca island about 20 miles away from their dive site. They didn’t know the island was a reserve for aggressive monitor lizards, the largest in the world, that often feast in packs and can kill beasts as large as buffalo.
Laurent Pinel, 31, said the group had to fight off one dragon with rocks. They spent two nights there before being found by rescuers on Saturday.
Rescuers took them by motorboat to Labuhan Bajo, a city on the western tip of nearby Flores island, said Pariman, chief of the local port authority.
The five were rushed to a local hospital.
Pariman, who goes by only one name, described their condition as weak but healthy.
“They are alive and are now on their way to get medical assistance,” Ernest Leandowski, the husband of one of the British divers, Kathleen Mitchinson, told the British news agency Press Association. “That is all I can say at this stage, as I have not yet spoken to my wife.”
The diving trip took place off of Tatawa island, near the Komodo National Park, which is home to the world’s largest lizards, the Komodo dragons. The area is famous for its rich marine diversity but also for its treacherous and unpredictable seas.
Recommended only for experienced divers, it is in a place where the Indian and Pacific Oceans meet, creating currents that converge and separate. Whirlpools and eddies can pull divers downwards.
“They have been floating out there for two days,” Dave Allin, the relieved father of Charlotte Allin, also of Britain, told Press Association. “We are still waiting for news of how they are.”
The three other divers were identified as James Manning of Britain, Elena Neralairen of Sweden, and Lauren Pinel of France.
Rinca island is about 20 miles south of Tatawa.
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2008-06-07 15:39:17
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Smiles….
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************ NEWSFLASH ****************
They Slayed The Dragon Last Night!!!
Missing Divers Found Alive on Island
AOL Wire Services
Posted: 2008-06-07 18:13:48
Filed Under: World News
JAKARTA, Indonesia (June 7) – All five Europeans who went missing while scuba diving in treacherous waters off eastern Indonesia were found alive Saturday on a remote island, police and family members said. The divers reportedly battled a komodo dragon on the island.
Amazing RescuesOby Lewanmeru, APFive divers were rescued Saturday after surviving 36 hours floating treacherous waters and wandering an island off Indonesia, where they reportedly fought a deadly komodo dragon. Here, they arrive at Flores island after their rescue. Click on the photos to see more amazing rescues.
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The divers – three from Britain and one each from France and Sweden – were rescued following a massive sea search in the area where they were last seen Thursday plunging into the water from their wooden boat, said Lt. Col. Buce Helo, a local police chief.
He said the five had drifted more than 12 hours before arriving at Rinca island about 20 miles away from their dive site. They didn’t know the island was a reserve for aggressive monitor lizards, the largest in the world, that often feast in packs and can kill beasts as large as buffalo.
Laurent Pinel, 31, said the group had to fight off one dragon with rocks. They spent two nights there before being found by rescuers on Saturday.
Rescuers took them by motorboat to Labuhan Bajo, a city on the western tip of nearby Flores island, said Pariman, chief of the local port authority.
The five were rushed to a local hospital.
Pariman, who goes by only one name, described their condition as weak but healthy.
“They are alive and are now on their way to get medical assistance,” Ernest Leandowski, the husband of one of the British divers, Kathleen Mitchinson, told the British news agency Press Association. “That is all I can say at this stage, as I have not yet spoken to my wife.”
The diving trip took place off of Tatawa island, near the Komodo National Park, which is home to the world’s largest lizards, the Komodo dragons. The area is famous for its rich marine diversity but also for its treacherous and unpredictable seas.
Recommended only for experienced divers, it is in a place where the Indian and Pacific Oceans meet, creating currents that converge and separate. Whirlpools and eddies can pull divers downwards.
“They have been floating out there for two days,” Dave Allin, the relieved father of Charlotte Allin, also of Britain, told Press Association. “We are still waiting for news of how they are.”
The three other divers were identified as James Manning of Britain, Elena Neralairen of Sweden, and Lauren Pinel of France.
Rinca island is about 20 miles south of Tatawa.
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AMAZING!
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Well… you get the point.
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I’m saying my prayers…
Good Night!
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P.S.
Vicki:
I’ll Help.
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No Justice for Natalee,
No Tourists for Aruba!
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Sorry about the double post…
But, I went to the Forum
and it’s been confirmed…
Joran is in Thailand.
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I’m eating Crow.
I wish his first name was Rudy!
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Nite….
“There’s hardly any need for air conditioning…
And, yet, your Prime Dimpster is going to spend
over 20 million dollars (which is a joke) to lay
a pipeline between Colombia and Aruba?!?!?”
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Very IN-STER-ING! (sic)
Yo O-Doobie-Doo…
I hope some drunken sea scudder captain comes
floatin’ through there on a big old hawg, lit up
on MAD DOG 20-20 like a pinball machine…
> right after you have laid
the last long mile of pipe.
May that chit blow your azz right
off the johnnie hopper into your foyer!
…your pink polka-dotted boxershorts will be hanging from a lamp shade, and the family dog
will be staring at you like YOU HAVE DONE LOST
YOUR MINNNND.
May they have to collect and ship back Rudy
Croes’ toupee PRIORITY OVERNIGHT from Venezuela.
LOL
Hey, it’s Sunday… I’m sayin’
a prayer for ya, ARUBA.
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Give us our Nat back!
Patti,
Chuck E. Cheese is a super power,
there is none higher.
Chuck E. is to a child…
What crack cocaine is to
A ONE Mister Bow-Tie Dompig! -j4n
And a nice day it is on our lovely island. With our without Columbian gas. See if I care.
ester
I am trying to get it through your thick skull!!
I dont seem to be getting results…
none the less here I go for the last time..
it’s not all arubans that I dislike ..and I never used the word hate…. it’s those in ofice in control of your screwed up goverment that I am against.. and… those that were involved in the disappearance and death of natalee.. including pauulus, joran, the kalpoes and all others….involved…
I KNOW!!!
there are lots of fine people in aruba like jossy mansur and many others that have been compassionate and passionate towards seeking justice….
not all arubans are bad… there are lots of kind caring humble people.. but the unfortunate thing is that .. it’s the bad ones that corrupt the system…
your officials took an oath to serve and protect and guess what… they never honored their oath.. instead they brought shame and disrespect….
theres alot of crime on that island because justice is lax… the human traffickers… drug trafficers.. and under world figures… all prosper uncluding the officials that are supposed to protect their citizens…
so lets make this clear because I am not going to repeat myself and have this conversation with you again….
I am not mean per say but I do stand my ground and protect what I feel is just and fown on the injustice that was and continues to be done towards natalees family…..
why do you bother coming here… to criticize and start arguments …leave us alone to do what we feel we must… dont come here to hinder and block our work..
surely your maturity level is above that…
patti
hi no last night or yesterday I was out and about… whats ups….:)
# 4 MINNESOTA DAD
WELL PUT .. YOU SPOKE VOLUMES…
CARPE
LAUGHING SO HARD AT THE POLKA DOTTED BOXERS AND ALL YOUR COMMENTS…
OMG PATTI
SO HE ISNT IN THE NUT HUT
PATTI
YOU KNOW WHAT REALY GETS ME ABOUT THIS … THAT JORAN IS IN THAILAND… IT’S THE FACT THAT HIS PARENTS ARE TERRIBLE AND THAT THEY HAVE LEARNED NOTHING FROM WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALEE … THEY CONTINUE TO ENABLE THEIR SON TO PARTY AND GAMBLE AT THEIR EXPENSE…
THEY RUINED HIS LIFE BY NOT SETTING BOUNDARIES AND TEACHING HIM MORALS AND VALUES AND RESPECT…AS A RESULT NATALEES LIFE WAS RUINED ALONG WITH HER PARENTS…
HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE SPIT IN HIS PARENTS FACE SO TO SPEAK AS FAR AS DISRESPECT GOES….
HIS LIFE STYLE HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE NATALEES TRAGIC DEATH AT HIS HANDS AND STILL HE CONTINUES TO DO THE VERY SAME THINGS HE WAS DOING PRIOR TO HER DEATH….
HE HAS NO EDUCATION TO SPEAK OF.. HE COULDNT STAY FOCUSED LONG ENOUGH.. HE HAS NO JOB… TO SPEAK OF.. HE FIGURES THAT HIS PARENTS OWE IT TO HIM … HE HAS NO CAR.. NOW THAT REALY PUZZLES ME .. EITHER HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE.. OR HIS PARENTS REFUSE HIM A CAR .. WHICH IS HARD TO BELIEVE SINCE THEY HAVE ALREADY FORKED OUT THOUSANDS ON HIM.. THAT REALY PUZZLES ME… BECAUSE MOST KIDS HIS AGE ARE INTO NICE CARS OR TRUCKS … BUT THIS ONE DOESNT SEEM TO FIT IN WHERE THATS CONCERNED.. UNLESS HE IS NOT MENTALY FIT TO DRIVE….
IF HE IS IN THAILAND WHICH I AM SURE PATTI… IS RIGHT… THAN ALL I CAN SAY IS..
TIME WILL TELL..
HE IS ON A SELF DESTRUCTION DISTRUCTION COURSE WITH HIS FATHER AND MOTHER BEHIND THE WHEEL
HE WILL SELF DISTRUCT SOONER OR LATER…
IF AND WHEN THE TIME COMES THAT HE MEETS HIS DEMISS IN DEATH.. THEY WILL BLAME THEM SELVES FOR NOT DOING SOMETHING SOONER…
AND THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK
THE CLOCK IS TICKING
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!!!!
patti
p.s
makes me wonder what kind of values they teach in those third world countries.. I hear that europeans are more liberal in their actions and life styles..
I think we americans for the most part try to teach our children right from wrong.. we set boundaries and teach our children that you are responsible for your actions.. and therefore you face the punishment for any crime comitted..or the mistakes you make…oviously the sloots failed that one test BIGGTIME!!!
not everyone lives by the rules and principles… and not all american are the ideal parents like in any other country .. there are good parents and bad bad parents…for example the parents of joran now that is a bad sample… .. .. they created..a monster.
again I am not saying we are the perfect parents in america… and that our kids dont do wrong.. because in any society that is not realisticly so …
The Bible says that the Devil and his demons will blind people of the truth. David, who slayed the giant, prayed that his eyes would shine, to see through the darkness… and he was the King of Israel!
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Oduber:
If the King of Israel, who had already proven his faith in Jehovah, as a child; prays for guidance and direction, why can’t you?
Do you, really, think you’re sooo high and mighty that you can shield your sins from the eyes of God? Even David couldn’t do that, and he was in the linage of the Christ.
We prayed for a hero, and we found one. One that would sail the highest and most treacherous of seas to find the missing; and being humble, only gave his first name. This is not about being famous, it’s not about being the best; it’s about the power of prayer and the fight that each and every one of us, whether he be a King or a pauper, battles with by day and night…. and that is the battle between good and evil. God sees all… and is keeping an account.
On the other hand, he has made a provision for even the worst of us to be forgiven. How much greater is the man that is humble and prays for forgiveness, than the man that is a King who is reduced to eating the grass of the fields!
We all walk through the shadow of death, while the evil one walks the earth, like a lion, wanting to devour someone. And when it’s all said and done, whether you are a King or a pauper, we ALL fight the same battle.
I beg of you, denounce the wicked one who would have you persecuting Christians in the name of pagan gods who have neither the eyes to see nor a mouth to speak; and humble yourself before God. Admit to the wrong doing in Aruba, ask for forgiveness and change the downward spiral that has left your nation hungering for something better. Become a hero who would go to the center of the earth to help those in need…. and save your people.
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People, rely on the power of God to guide you, direct your steps through this treacherous terrain; and He will deliver you. Humble yourselves, admitting your faults; being reduced from a leader to a follower who dines, nightly, on crow; if you must. But, draw close to Jehovah and He will draw close to you.
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I pray for peace in the valley of Aruba and I leave it to God to judge the unrighteous.
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We ask for a hero, we pray for a hero and he doesn’t even make the front page. Perhaps we all need to humble ourselves before Him.
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Miss Katie:
I love you with all my heart. Continue in your ways of patience and understanding, love and kindness. You are our friend. There is nothing wrong with boycotting the island. Even God, himself, prohibitted his people from associating with the Babylonians… How much greater his desire must be to save us from Babylon the Great!
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Stay out of Aruba, He would say… and so we say it to others, as a warning, and in an attempt to help those that will be saved from the Great Dragon who would devour them, if only he could.
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Boycott Aruba!
P.S.S
BECAUSE IF THE SLOOTS HAD TAUGHT JORAN TO BE RESPONSIBLE .. NATALEE WOULD BE WITH HER PARENTS ….AT COLLEGE FULLFILLING HER DREAMS.. DREAMS THAT WERE SELFISHLY SHATTERED BY PAUULUS ..JORAN AND THE KALPOE BROTHERS….
THEY DENIED HER TO BE A DOCTOR..
THEIR LIVES REMAIN THE SAME SHALLOW EMPTY LIVES.. NO EDUCATION NO REAL GOALS.. NONE HAVE MUCH GOING FOR THEM.. BESIDES HANGING OUT…DRINKING DRUGGING..
THEY TOOK THE LIFE OF ONE THAT HAD HER WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF HER…
SAD
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
BOYCOTT CONTINUES
PATTI
THANKS FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT
YOU HAVE BEEN A BLESSING YOUR A STRONG PERSON WITH SUCH GOOD GIFTS
GOD BLES YOU
FRIEND KATIE
::MonkeyCool:: thanks patti your the coolest
I realy enjoy everything you post and most of all your sweet spirit… sometimes we get those trolls coming in to try to throw us off.. I have seen you in times of diversity handle it with great dignity..
I admire your intellect and the countless hrs you spend researching …you bring us all great inspiration with all your knowledge and insght..
It realy touched my heart to read what you posted…here and in the forum.. it touched my heart…
I consider you a great friend and a great asset to the monkeys.
together we work towards Justice for the family of natalee..
we cry together
we laugh together
we pray together
we are united.. in on our endeavor to see natalees remains returned to America where she belongs…
God bless you…
Katie
brie
I think the world of you too… your spunky spirit… your quite a gal
Always1
your sweet and caring… god bless you
lalas mom… kaye..molly…and all those women that I cant remember off hand
I just got infrom work and my mind is on lock down mode lol
I enjoy the posts and comments from all of you…
carpe you are the coolest and the funniest
your tops in my book
katie
So, let’s get this boycott ROCKING!!!!
Who wants to sit in the comfort of their air conditioned offices, writing, when we could be there, standing hand in hand, arm in arm with the GIRL? Isn’t THAT what this is about? Isn’t THAT why we’re here?
Let’s take our truth to Washington!
Afterall, what good is the TRUTH,
if you don’t SHARE it with everybody?
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Let’s stop patting each other on the back…
and get to work!
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Is there no news to report from Aruba?
Or, are we left to MAKE the news for ourselves?
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What’s in those 170 markers?
And…
Which is more important?
The whereabouts of Joran?
or the whereabouts of Natalee?
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Boycott!
And… for those that are wondering:
THAT was my point!
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JUSTICE for Natalee!
#118 Miss Katie…
Heyyyy,
Thank you, Miss Katie. I’m a li’l ol’ nobody.
…but you just made me feel like somebody!
U made my night.
Danki
BOYCOTT ARUBA!
Justice for Nats.
A FOUR STEP PROGRAM
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> To Aroobie!
> In das tookie!
> Hold de Vassie!
> Every daisie!
BOYYYYYY…
Turn that mother out like u just done-did some
things, they shall never rest again as long as we have a heartbeat.
We do it for our girl Natalee. -j4n
No, Carpe!
I’m the nobody…
the Alien…
the one that hears the children cry…
and makes the sea burp up its’ bones.
The one that tells you of carcasses
buried deep in the sand…
for them to be found, days later.
I’ve, even, taught you to pray
and shown you the power of Jehovah,
as all his ways are just and true.
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We can only serve ONE master…
and mine is not of this world.
To see the people on this website
dig in their heels,
in the face of God;
is like crushing my heart
in a million pieces.
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The wrath of the living God
shall be upon them,
and they will be no more.
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Miracles don’t happen everyday…
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Remember what I told you…
Seek Him out,
Draw Close to Him,
and let Him be your Beacon.
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Farewell, my Friend!
Wal-Mart, Patti…
They always have them in stock, girlfriend.
-j4n
AHATA ARUBA’S ROB SMITH pic
(and another guy, not named)
http://tinyurl.com/6p3mn5
aww carpe
I tell the truth and I am glad to make your night…
we all deserve to told that we are great..
patti
yes let’s roll up our sleeve and find out what we can do to get this show on the road..
so dumbo and his parents are doing the thailand thing..
well let em enjoy it.. remember nothing is forever
god works in mysterious ways his wonders to behold….
its for a season with the sloots and all involved…
when their time comes the first thing they will remember is natalee…
time is on our side…
the thailand thingie!!! wont be forever
Frankly, I expect him to catch a disease in Thailand. Happens all the time……..at least 20 times. LOL
boycott aruba
molly in houston
molly
he cant sit still and keep out of trouble Cant keep his pants up…. he appears hyper … he is in full party mode.. knowing this his parents continue to enable and support his life style.. isnt that pitiful..
what values have they instilled in him or the other two boys… what a pity…
bad parenting skills…
I dont know how the mentality is in those third world countries… I guess in america our values are different…
not that we dont have crime here..
but what is in our favor is that with have a judicial system that is in place.
in our country the victims families have a right to face their accusers…
this was denied natalees parents and family…
in aruba the govt there is run by corrupt officials .. the benefits of a third world country to make and change the laws and rules .to suit them… they are easily paid to look the other way as in the case of natalee..
no decent code of ethics exist..
therefore leaving the tourist and aruban citizens at risk for anything….
THE ISLANDERS NEED TO TAKE THEIR ISLAND BACK:
but in order to do so they will have to form a plan.. and at this point I think there is so much fear of reteleation that the likely hood is slim to none…
what a pity!!!
where is everyone
maggie
after reading that
what part can they not comprehend?
you said it well
I am with you as all others..
thanks
Hey Pat Van der eem,
Your mother has very poor posture, buck teeth,
and breath like a ferret!
“GREETINGS”
ROFLMAO!!!!
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Justice 4 Natalee!
BOYCOTT ARUBA 2008
Aruba,
We iz all over ya, like a tacky Hans Mos
“Salty the Pretzel Man” chump suit!
We’z like Visa, baby. We are EVERYWHERE
you want to be. I hope you are enjoying your day.
…and I really mean that, from the bottom of
my li’l ol’ “hort.”
-j4n
A.L.E. SECRET VAN RECORDING AUDIO
Satish:
“Yeah, Yeah then I changed a flat tire, and went back to the beach for her.”
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Didja ever wonder why Satish would magically have to change a flat tire on a Honda, for no apparent reason?
There was one. He ran over our sweetheart! (she was trying to escape for all she was worth!)
That is why they sent him home for the dirty work. He felt sick about it.
That is why he woke up the next day asking about her welfare.
Elmo, have more thoughts on that. …but Elmo needs fresh clean socks for tomorrow…
LAUNDRY TIME
will jot it all down, and get back atcha.
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NEVER GIVE UP ON NAT!
AA is not pulling out of Aruba. They have high ticket prices to this destination and certainly aren’t about to give up this revenue. The SJU hub is downsizing and many markets will lose service. Aruba is one of the cleanest, safest islands in the Carribbean. Not too many many islands where you can walk the streets at night and feel totally secure.