American Airlines to Cancel Flights to Aruba … Concerned about the Unstable Situation in Aruba.


American Airlines send warning to Aruba … guarantee our planes can land without any problems or we will cancel fights!!! A note to the Aruban judges, do you still think that the strike affecting the Reina Beatrix Aruban Airport and planes landing on Aruba isn’t that serious? It’s good to see that American Airlines take safety seriously and the tourist is actually considered in this process, unlike the present situation in Aruba. American Airlines is threatening to cancel flights to Aruba until they can guarantee the their passengers safety and that planes can land without incident.

American Airlines has threatened to cancel all her flight for this coming weekend. That’s what the American airline company has told Tourism-minister Edison Briesen, says Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP). Management of American Airlines told Briesen in an e-mail that the company is concerned about the ‘unstable situation’ in Aruba. The company also requests a guarantee that the airplanes can land without any problems this coming weekend. “If we cannot give them this guarantee, they will cancel the flights, and that is a very serious matter”, said Oduber.

Once again we are presented with a situation where the concerns of Arubans take precedent over the safety of the passengers and tourists who butter Aruba’s bread. Define irony … Aruban public workers striking and in the process destroying the very economy that provides tax revenues to pay their salaries.

“I regret the fact that they are trying to interfere with the landing and taking off of airplanes”. (Airport director Peter Steinmetz)

To make matters worse the cardinal sin of airports was broken when a false bomb threat was called in.

Steinmetz also confirms that there was a bomb alert last Saturday

American Airlines wants to cancel flights (Amigoe: April 15, 2008)

ORANJESTAD — American Airlines has threatened to cancel all her flight for this coming weekend. That’s what the American airline company has told Tourism-minister Edison Briesen, says Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP). Management of American Airlines told Briesen in an e-mail that the company is concerned about the ‘unstable situation’ in Aruba. The company also requests a guarantee that the airplanes can land without any problems this coming weekend. “If we cannot give them this guarantee, they will cancel the flights, and that is a very serious matter”, said Oduber. Airport director Peter Steinmetz indicated yesterday that he regrets the fact that the public employees’ actions are concentrating on the airport. “I regret the fact that they are trying to interfere with the landing and taking off of airplanes. I am not saying that the actions aren’t rightful, but we are not really a party in this matter and we are only trying to drive the economic engine of Aruba.” Steinmetz also confirms that there was a bomb alert last Saturday, which turned out to be false alarm. An investigation on who did it is still going.

Posted April 17, 2008 by
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    131 Responses to “American Airlines to Cancel Flights to Aruba … Concerned about the Unstable Situation in Aruba.”

    1. LilPuma on April 17th, 2008 8:09 am

      Good to hear that American Airlines is concerned about the well being of it’s passengers. We see again that Aruban justice officials are not. It’s also good to see that some Arubans are joining in the boycott, in their own way.

    2. Dolf on April 17th, 2008 8:13 am

      I asume this has nothing to do with the faa fines?

      it was “good to hear” that they were so concerned with saftety that they flew planes that should have been grounded

      so…erase the notion that it has to do with safety, they were prob. making a loss.

    3. A New Girl on April 17th, 2008 8:39 am

      “If we cannot give them this guarantee, they will cancel the flights, and that is a very serious matter”, said Oduber.

      Oh, BOOO…HOOOOO… Oduber…..Cry us a river !!

      Looks like the you-know-what is hitting the fan.


    4. Carpe on April 17th, 2008 8:42 am


      It is almost like they’re
      actually TRYING to wreck
      that island.

    5. super dave on April 17th, 2008 8:48 am


    6. minnesota dad on April 17th, 2008 9:16 am


      This is what it comes to. Aruba keeps on slowly crumbling. The boycott is working and continues to work. Those that have worked the trade shows (bless you) have made sure that Aruba will never recover for what they did…until they do the right thing.

      Government has no tourists to tax. Government has no ‘clean money’ to wash with the ‘dirty money’. Government can’t pay the bills on their own buildings…let alone pay government employees.

      Economic memo to Arubans: Tourism drives your engine. Tourism provides tax revenues. Tourism provides employment for your people. Tourism pays your government’s bills. Tourism allows you to pay your government employees.

      Tourism is and will forever be dead in Aruba. Each day Aruba sinks lower into the abyss.

      Only one thing can stop this freefall….ARREST PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT AND PUT HIM ON TRIAL. The rest will follow.

      So what is it going to be Aruba? Tourist money….or no tourist money? Recovery of a country’s economy…or a sentence of national chaos and death?

      Vive le boycott!


    7. Richard on April 17th, 2008 9:23 am

      Great news. An airline is telling Aruba that the island actually has responsibilities to live up to. Too bad that our government hasn’t taken the same stance in regards to Americans vanishing.

      This article came out today. Do you remember the case of Natascha Kampusch, kidnapped in Austria at the age of 10 and held prisoner EIGHT years?

      (Wouldn’t everyone have scoffed at the idea that she could still have been alive?)

      It turns out that Austrian police officials gave DIRECT ORDERS not to investigate leads or evidence taken from the home of her abductor.

      And friends of her captor, in newly discovered photographs, were found engaged in forced sexual activities with her.

      Makes you wonder … but of course, we know that such things could not take place on Aruba, the “one safe, happy island.” And, of course, the fact that they DID take place in Austria does not suggest that they did happen in Aruba.

      Still and all, one has to wonder … what is behind the enduring cover-up there?

      Anyway, here’s the article:

      From The Times
      April 17, 2008

      Police ‘held back sex-slave photos’ found at Natascha Kampusch kidnap house

      Photographs showing Natascha Kampusch being used as a sex slave by her kidnapper were hidden by Austrian police to avoid a political scandal, according to previously unreleased documents.
      Ms Kampusch, who was kidnapped on her way to school when she was 10, was kept in a bunker beneath a house near Vienna by Wolfgang Priklopil for eight years before she escaped in August 2006. He committed suicide hours later.
      Two months after her escape Stern, the respected German magazine, reported that police had found pictures that showed Ms Kampusch being sexually abused by friends of Priklopil, 44. The magazine said that she had been handcuffed and photographed for “cruel games”.
      The discovery of documents is the first recorded corroboration of the report by Stern. The documents, which were obtained by Heute, the Austrian daily newspaper, outline how Austrian police were told not to investigate further any leads or material seized from the home of Priklopil.
      Related Links
      Police accused over Kampusch kidnapping
      Austria reels at cover-up of kidnap fiasco
      They reveal that among the evidence, which police were ordered to destroy or hide, were photographs on two mini-DVDs that would have linked others with the abuse of Ms Kampusch.
      Investigators were not allowed to view the pictures and consider charges against other people because senior politicians did not want a scandal before a general election, according to the documents.
      The paperwork shows that Herwig Haidinger, then the chief of the Austrian criminal police, complained in an e-mail to the Interior Ministry that another senior police officer, Major-General Nikolaus Koch, had ordered the destruction of the evidence.
      After Ms Kampusch escaped it was discovered that police had made mistakes during the search for her, including ignoring a statement from a police dog handler.
      The statement, which included the address of Priklopil and a description of his character, was made on April 14, 1998, less than six weeks after Ms Kampusch was abducted. It was sent to the investigating officer but was apparently lost.
      Mr Haidinger said that when he found the statement after Ms Kampusch escaped he wanted the dog handler to be questioned, but confirmed that he received direct instructions from the Interior Ministry not to proceed.
      “We don’t need a police scandal prior to the parliamentary elections,” Mr Haidinger quoted officials from the ministry as saying.
      Günther Platter, the conservative Interior Minister who came to power after the elections, called the claims “rumours and allegations”.

    8. Richard on April 17th, 2008 9:25 am

      “Haidinger said that when he found the statement after Ms Kampusch escaped he wanted the dog handler to be questioned, but confirmed that he received direct instructions from the Interior Ministry not to proceed.
      “We don’t need a police scandal prior to the parliamentary elections,” Mr Haidinger quoted officials from the ministry as saying.”

      Sure does make you wonder …

    9. Richard on April 17th, 2008 9:29 am

      One big difference between Austria and Aruba … here’s an accompanying article to the above, saying that Austrians are enraged and that the government is on the brink of collapse.

      Imagine; all that over “one girl.”

      No such outcry on Aruba, where the concern is … we want American tourist money. To hell with justice or decency.

      THE Austrian government is facing collapse after revelations of startling police incompetence and a ministerial cover-up in the case of Natascha Kampusch, the girl who was kidnapped at the age of 10 and held in a cellar for eight years.

      Kampusch is in line for millions of pounds in compensation after it was disclosed that she could have been released after a few weeks in captivity in 1998 if police had followed early leads. She did not escape until August 2006.

      Shortly before a general election in October 2006, a police chief discovered that Kampusch’s abductor had been identified as a key suspect within weeks of her disappearance but nothing had been done. The interior minister at the time of the election appears to have suppressed the news and officials misled the press on her behalf.

      The revelations have delivered a potentially fatal blow to the ruling coalition of the conservative People’s party and the Social Democrats. A parliamentary inquiry has been demanded that could lead to disciplinary charges against senior officials.

    10. Richard on April 17th, 2008 9:42 am

      “That girl, Natalee, I wish she’d stayed home. I hope she’s found alive there. Because no one would care. No one. The kid is just not worth all this trouble, this heartache. Is Natalee worth it? Is she?” (Vanity Fair) ~ Charles Croes

      “I am sick and tired of the case (Amigoe, 1-23-06).” ~ Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber

    11. Miss-Underestimated on April 17th, 2008 10:14 am

      We knew that it was only a matter of time. Justice is patient.

      Aruba is rotting from the inside out.

    12. Susan on April 17th, 2008 11:01 am

      Isn’t this the same “American Airlines” that was recently fined by our government and canceled (grounded) hundreds, if not a few thousand, of flights over the past couple of weeks?



    13. Carpe on April 17th, 2008 11:21 am

      The answer to your Vanity Fair

      question Chuck…

      Absolutely, dude…she certainly

      was worth it! You aren’t worthy of

      even shining her Sunday shoes! Go scribble

      us up another poem that nobody will read,

      but tell you they did, so as to not

      hurt your feelings. -j4n

    14. Miss-Underestimated on April 17th, 2008 11:29 am

      10. Those statements are the epitome of Aruba. SKANKS Aruba being the victim, rather than the real victim Natalee Holloway.

    15. Carpe on April 17th, 2008 11:38 am

      Anybody have a can of Right Guard?

    16. ANITA KNOWS her SON is a KILLER on April 17th, 2008 11:46 am

      SHUT ARUBA DOWN….it sucks

    17. ANITA KNOWS her SON is a KILLER on April 17th, 2008 11:48 am


      and she also knows her husband is a KILLER

      real nice huh ANITA

      she is probably worried about her own welfare
      i would be

    18. brie. on April 17th, 2008 12:08 pm

      American Airlines don’t threaten to shut down the flights just do it… cannot lose an airline full of passengers….

      Curacao has gone on strike with it’s port of services….ships are waiting in the harbour….everything is going to hell….!!!

    19. ANITA KNOWS her SON is a KILLER on April 17th, 2008 12:36 pm



      BOYCOTT BOYCOTT and they can all go to hell

    20. Miss-Underestimated on April 17th, 2008 1:05 pm

      “I am sick and tired of the case (Amigoe, 1-23-06).” ~ Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber

      Keep reminding everyone what this is all about Mr. Genius Oduber. Maybe its time to cut your losses…give Natalee back to her family.

    21. ANITA KNOWS her SON is a KILLER on April 17th, 2008 1:55 pm



    22. JusticeforNatalee on April 17th, 2008 3:46 pm

      (courtesy, Pita in the SM forum:)

      Posted today on the front page of the Aruba Chamber:

      Today, Thursday April 17th, at 4 pm at the Radisson Hotel, KvK, ATIA & AHATA will express our concern for the current impasse between the Government and the Unions representing the Public Sector. This situation has gone on too long! We want to demand that these parties enter an open dialogue to come to a final solution. Our economy and the continued prosperity of our Nation are at stake. We are requesting that you, as a part of our business community, to stand by us as we deliver this message. We are counting on you to be a part of the solution.

    23. esther on April 17th, 2008 4:19 pm

      As long as my plane lands in aruba next month am happy…
      I really need some sun :)

    24. Richard on April 17th, 2008 4:40 pm

      JusticeforNatalee (#22) …

      “This situation has gone on too long!”

      No need to comment on another “situation” that has gone on longer.

      “We are counting on you to be a part of the solution.”

      If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, as someone said. Keep that in mind, Aruba … because you don’t seem to be part of any solution in what is your real problem.

      Want me to spell it out?

    25. Carpe on April 17th, 2008 4:47 pm

      esther on April 17th, 2008 4:19 pm

      As long as my plane lands in aruba next month am happy…
      I really need some sun

      Cool Esther!

      Maybe you can sun on the
      bloody rocks near the Lighthouse
      after Joran & Paulus Vandersloot
      have dismembered your body
      & fed you to the f-ing

      Hey, don’t forget that sun block. Good times!


    26. A New Girl on April 17th, 2008 6:00 pm

      Hey, #23 —Esther—-make sure you stop at Anita’s house to get the latest in risque fashion tips for the well-dressed on the Island, too.

      If you hurry, Anita Van Der See Thru Hoots may have a spot available for you in her macrame and beading class as well!! That, of course, is if you have time in between the fresh-baked cookies and lemonade she is serving you as she doles out free advice on how the be the WORST Mother on the planet to your sociopathical lying, gambling, murdering and raping offspring! Let’s not forget “towel-retrevial” lessons for the husband, too ! She’ll be needing to conduct a refresher course on that little diddy as the date for the civil suit draws near.

      Drop us a postcard, Esther- fill us in on all the fun you’ll be having with the Sporter’s family.


    27. brie. on April 17th, 2008 6:01 pm

      #25…Good one Carpe…right on the money!!!!

    28. Minky from CH on April 17th, 2008 6:05 pm

      Yes Minnesota dad, you are right, I always agreed with you, just by reading your posts
      Yes # 17 same as above.

      # 23 Burn your backside or your last brain cells, whatever………..same thing

      Hang scum van ditch Paula$$$, the sooner, the better………and Anita and Joran and the rest of the gang

    29. Mike on April 17th, 2008 6:34 pm


      What you really need is my foot up your a**!

    30. Minky from CH on April 17th, 2008 6:50 pm

      Yes Aruba, I’m glad to be part of your solution, you can count on me, it’s very simple


      no more and no less

    31. Minky from CH on April 17th, 2008 6:57 pm

      don’t you think, if you will stay there for ever, America would be proud, to have an Idiot less?
      Why don’t you join Ken to buy a piece of property in Aruba? He knows how to bargain and when the price is right.

    32. misskatie on April 17th, 2008 7:13 pm

      esther #23

      the front page of

      :police today reported that
      a womans DISMEMBERED body was discovered near some large rocks. in a desserted area
      ..missing from her body was
      both arms and legs , and head… it appears that her heart was removed with a sharp object…

      investigators closed the case after investigators concluded that … the woman
      had comitted suicide due to serious bouts of depression….case closed…


    33. Patti on April 17th, 2008 7:35 pm

      Yep, Ester!

      And out of love,

      we’ll continue our boycott,

      even for you.

      There’s something amiss in Aruba and it’s not
      just Natalee… it’s everthing she believed in:



      Where is YOUR conscience?

      Rolling around in a cage; stuck

      to the bottom of the deep, blue sea?


      Like your friend, Patrick said,

      This is a witch hunt!

      And whoever killed Natalee…

      We’ll find you!


      Hey, Patrick:

      How long did you say you knew Joran?

      And, please, do tell:

      Where were YOU when Natalee went missing?



    34. Patti on April 17th, 2008 7:46 pm

      Please take the time to visit Michele Says So.

      She has a great article regarding a television
      show (TeleAruba) where, upon thinking the cameras
      were turned off, Patrick said that he knows who
      disposed of Natalee and that he had met Joran
      in a casino, in Aruba, years before this so-called
      “Sting (Stink, IMHO) Operation”

      And a word for the wise:

      If Patrick ever e-mails me again,

      I’m calling the REAL police.


      Arawak, in your face!


    35. Open a Window on April 17th, 2008 8:13 pm

      Esther, you must not be a pretty, young woman.

      Old and shriveled? Enjoy your stay in the hellhole.

    36. misskatie on April 17th, 2008 8:25 pm


    37. misskatie on April 17th, 2008 8:26 pm

      Speaking of witch hunts
      its probably safer to get to aruba flying a broom

    38. Allan on April 17th, 2008 8:29 pm

      Sure would be nice if somebody in US government cared about Natalee, one of the citizens they serve.
      What a corrupt and pompous a**es in Washington DC!

    39. esther on April 17th, 2008 8:35 pm

      Cool down people,am an arubian living in Holland and am going to the island for my mums birthday!
      I want justice as well,the truth will come out.

      #35 never had any trouble on the island but i buy my own drinks,i take a cap and even then if a man lays one hand on me he will be very sorry he did so :)

    40. txchic on April 17th, 2008 9:26 pm

      aruba seems to be learning a hard lesson in karma. must suck to be them.

    41. LilPuma on April 17th, 2008 9:37 pm

      2 and 12 (dolf and susan) Yes. American canceled a lot of flights recently. They apparently needed a kick in the butt. So now they have to do a better job of keeping their passengers and crew safe and that would include not flying into an airport that is unsafe.

      Esther, if you see Paulus, make some monkey noises for us. If you see Joran, throw some wine in his face. If you hear Anita say “why would she get in the car with 3 boys?”, say “why would any girl get anywhere near someone like Joran?”

    42. Minky from CH on April 17th, 2008 10:02 pm

      Why don’t you just shut up?
      Your post doesn’t provide anything to this site.
      It’s still about Natalee.
      Nobody cares about you and nobody want’s to know anything about you.
      Your post is just stupid whitout any brain, seeking for attention.
      Go home where you belong and stay there and evaporate. Comprendes?

    43. Ray on April 17th, 2008 10:52 pm

      # 39 esther
      I do not for one second expect that ARUBA will ever find justice for NATALEE HOLLOWAY. I truly hope that you are RIGHT.


    44. Ray on April 17th, 2008 11:12 pm

      I would bet that HUNDREDS OF AMERICAN TOURIST GIRLS HAVE BEEN RAPED IN ARUBA. A lot of them on their last night on the island,So that the victim will go home and say nothing.


    45. Ray on April 17th, 2008 11:26 pm


      WE will not give up.

    46. Dolf on April 18th, 2008 12:43 am

      Anita say “why would she get in the car with 3 boys?”, say “why would any girl get anywhere near someone like Joran?”

      did she really say this?

    47. Amsterdam 020 on April 18th, 2008 3:46 am


      You want to see something bad happening to Esther just to make your point?? Are you kidding me?

      Yes the Aruban government/police/justice system f*cked up handling this case. But crime happens everywhere. Aruba is a safe place.
      SM: Its about the JUSTICE!!!! DUH.


    48. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 4:27 am

      A witch hunt?

      To me, a witch hunt would be going

      after Joran’s mother, Anita.

      U do remember that ol’ lying

      rusty buzzard, don’t-cha?

      Anita Vandersloot

      The lady who single-handedly kept Otto

      Von Titslinger in business for YEARS!

      When Otto met Anita he busted out and did


      … much like when Jed set out shootin’

      for some food, and up through

      the ground came a bubblin’ crude!


    49. brie. on April 18th, 2008 4:37 am

      What a mess….Esther why even come on here an post….it made no sense…if you want to go Aruba….then fine…. go …..but we don’t need to know about it…and we don’t support it…so what is your problem….your just another annoying troll…probably someway related to the Sloot’s…

    50. Don on April 18th, 2008 4:50 am

      Sad human beings. If Aruba is to suffer because of one victim, can you imagine what fate the US is awaiting for the countless victims of your idiot government. Get a life and go on. You don’t help Nathalee with this, you are only cleaning your own conciense. And hey, the whole world knows that you don’t care.
      SM: WOW, Don is all knowing. He knows what the whole world knows. Gee I am impressed. Now go take your meds.

    51. brie. on April 18th, 2008 4:58 am

      An American died on your island Aruba and you have done nothing to solve the case because you don’t want too. You knew from day one what happened to Natalee…seizures…why did she have seizure’s because of Joran…Anita says “It’s just one girl”

    52. Don on April 18th, 2008 4:59 am

      Btw Esther, enjoy yourself on Aruba. One happy island. Para siempre ! (pity that they closed down Carlos & Charlies)
      SM: Yes Esther, enjoy your vacation sitting in traffic caused by the protests and the lack of services you will be provided. What type of an idiot goes to a place that is knowing going thru a public employee strike? There’s some common sense.

    53. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 5:08 am

      Hey Patrick,

      You have jsut pissed me off about 1,000 levels greater than I was before.

      I am now more determined than ever to
      bring that pathetic floating t-barge of
      an gang-rape Aruba island to it’s knees.


      YOU ARE F’n WITH? Did you idiots really think

      that you could put a cap on the case, & we’d

      all just go home?

      IT AIN’T OVER, b$&tch.

      We’ll keep bringin’ the

      pain. Nice try though, it might have worked

      on one of those dumba$$ Arubans. They are used

      to be gettin’ f’d, spit on,

      and then told to like it.

      U can take that book that you are getting

      ready to put out, & shove it in yer a$$ sideways,

      playa! Do you have the final draft ready, or is it

      still written with crayons?

      -justice for natalee

      whatever it takes.

    54. Don on April 18th, 2008 5:15 am

      @brie You have no idea what living on an island is like. You can’t project your big city attitude to island life. (thats why you all like to come here so much) You seem under the impression that every Aruban knows what the vanderSloots did that night and every Aruban is as guilty as them. That is not sensible reasoning.
      SM: Guess what … I do. As a matter of fact I know what it is like to live on Aruba. I am also far from big city life.

      How could every Aruban not know the names of Natalee Holloway or Joran Van der Sloot? If they do not then they are most likely drug addicts. After 3 years, you could not have heard the story or the names unless you have lived under a rock, with white paint on it.

      In any small town or city in America and that is what Aruba is as it has just at 100K people, any event that would have caused such hardship and embarrassment to it, they people would have stood up and voiced their opinion and demanded answers to get beyond the problem.

      That my son is a fact.

    55. Don on April 18th, 2008 5:18 am

      SM Striking civil servants can not stop the sun from shining nor can they stop the sea being blue. You Americans don’t leave your hotels anyway, so you have only 2 chances to get stuck in traffic.
      And otherwise you walk, what can be the distance ?
      SM: Please do not lie. BTW, just how much does the ATA and AHATA pay you?

      The airport road and in town Oranjestad is a nightmare.

      Aruba could not ensure safety prior to NH, what do you think they offer with less public employees? DAH! Less police, less firemen, oh yeah and less air traffic controllers landing the planes. I guess some how that is not important. How colossally stupid and irresponsible could you be?

      We are starting to see the difference in how countries operate. Aruba does not plan ahead for anything. They just hope nothing happens. So whether they have 1 or 4 air traffic controllers its of no consequence. If an accident does not happen or a crime is not committed, they think its a good thing even though they have provided no safety measure.

      Getting thru life by chance is hardly safe. Americans are not willing to deal with it. They will go elsewhere where crime may exist, at least there are measures in place to deal with the crime and prosecute those that are guilty.

    56. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 5:26 am
    57. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 5:30 am

      Don on April 18th, 2008 4:50 am

      Sad human beings. If Aruba is to suffer because of one victim, can you imagine what fate the US is awaiting for the countless victims of your idiot government. Get a life and go on. You don’t help Nathalee with this, you are only cleaning your own conciense. And hey, the whole world knows that you don’t care.

      hey yo,

      my dearest captain hiney pirate…


      SPELL CHECKER for 300.

    58. Don on April 18th, 2008 5:43 am

      SM just had an epiphamy ! Yes miladdo that is the Caribbean way. That’s why you stressed out people like to come here in the region to relax in wind down. Life by chance. And you pay top dollar for it. It’s the eloi and the morlocks (did you ever read a book by the way ?)

    59. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 5:44 am

      Man, I know Paulus & Anita must pine

      for those old days of yore. Ya know???

      The good times, when they still

      had a chance to drop that lil’

      son of a bitty on

      his egg shaped head.

      “Those Were The Dayssssss” –

      Edith & Archie Bunker -j4n

    60. Libby on April 18th, 2008 7:05 am

      #44 Ray….Guarantee many girls have been raped on their last night in Aruba. Joran himself pretty much said that. “We have done this 20 times or more and nothing like this has ever happened.” I just feel so bad for Natalee. I can’t begin to imagine how scared she was let alone how badly they hurt her. Hopefully, some day soon, someone will see things how I do. An eye for an eye. Those low life pieces of crap have no idea how lucky they are that I’m not Natalee’s mom. I would take taken them out by now…pretty much the same way they hurt and killed Natalee.

    61. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 7:09 am

      Dolf on April 18th, 2008 12:43 am

      Anita say “why would she get in the car with 3 boys?”, say “why would any girl get anywhere near someone like Joran?”

      did she really say this?

      #46 Dolf

      I know she did on the first quote. Dunno about second quote.

      …and quote #1

      …ACTUALLY, she said 3 *STRANGE BOYS.

      That dish rag hoe truly is the

      gift that keeps on giving, huh?

      Well whooptie doeyyy and a ho hummmmm!!!!

      -Lawrence Welk & the Champaign Merry Makers


    62. ANITA KNOWS her SON is a KILLER on April 18th, 2008 7:28 am


      within a month, th only way you will be able to get there is via CRACK PIPE DREAM

    63. katablog on April 18th, 2008 7:41 am

      Amsterdam 020: Yes the Aruban government/police/justice system f*cked up handling this case. But crime happens everywhere. Aruba is a safe place.

      How can Aruba, One Crappy Little Island, be a safe place for Americans when Aruba sets the standard in 2005 that if your American and your attacker has connections – you are “just one girl”. How can Americans be safe when there is corruption and denial among the Aruba government and investigators? What Tourist should feel safe knowing that IF crime happens to you, you and your family will be viciously attacked when attempting to find out what happened?

    64. Amsterdam 020 on April 18th, 2008 8:16 am

      @ SM and Katablog,

      If it is just about JUSTICE, then why are so many people here suggesting that all visitors of Aruba are in danger and that kidnappers, murderers and rapers are just waiting to attack a tourist and that people shouldn’t send their children to Aruba for spring break. In Aruba there is statstically less crime than big cities around the globe.

      And Katablog, just because the case with Natalee has been screwed up by the officials, doesn’t mean that this would happen again in the future.

      I doubt that should this have happened to an Aruban or Dutch girl, you would have called for a boycott or even changed your vacation destination.

    65. dennisintn on April 18th, 2008 8:19 am

      #34, that’s a pile of crap. “years ago” jvds would have been in grade school. there were a lot of mistranslations in that piece from aruba. nothing that comes from aruban sources, except jossy, is likely to be true. we’ve learned that much the hard way.

    66. vietvet on April 18th, 2008 8:20 am

      We get a few airheads on here who keep writing about crime in the USA and percentage this or that, but I wonder how many Arubans have had someone go missing in the USA. And of those, how many were lied to, misled, and had all evidence lost or destroyed by our police and government? Do any of you airheads have any data on that? We try to solve crimes, Aruba tries to cover them up, and believe this,,,,Aruba will continue to lose. One loser island. Now I may make another visit there or to Europe in the next few months, but it will be a search mission. Are you still there Joran?

    67. Amsterdam 020 on April 18th, 2008 8:24 am


      I usual don’t like posts in capitals but:


      First nobody here believes Joran, then everyone DOES believe his so-called confession but only the part that she died in his presence and that she was dumped in sea but not the part that she died of natural causes/alcohol poisening and that the Kalpoe brothers were not involved. And the drugged/raped part is just being made up!

      I said it before and I will say it again: you are all just cherry picking from the information (true or false) that you get.

    68. mommytraveler on April 18th, 2008 8:31 am

      Amsterdam – You just made a very telling statement. “Why shouldn’t people send their children to Aruba for spring break?”

      WHY? If you have to ask Why? You don’t get it.

      Must mean not many spring breakers are in Aruba? Hmmmmmmmmm.

      My grandchildren know all about what happened to Natalee and the nightmare that continues for her family. None would recommend Aruba as their destination for spring break. None want to take the chance that something could happen to them. So, they’ll stick to someplace in the USA where, yes, they could get slipped a date rape drug, where, yes, occasional crime, kidnapping, rape, killing does occur — but at least the crime will be investigated and the family will not be made to apologize or blamed by inept police, judges and bad-mouthed by Arubans who are more intested in the almighty dollar than solving the crime.

    69. Amsterdam 020 on April 18th, 2008 8:31 am

      No search necessary. Apparently Joran checked himself in at a psychiatric hospital “Altrecht” in Den Dolder, a small town near Utrecht.

    70. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 8:42 am

      The boycott isn’t over crime (imo) It is because

      Aruba does not want the NH case solved, and they

      keep throwing up road blocks at every turn.

      So, by Aruba continuing to align itself

      with the Van der sloots & Kalpoes…

      they remain in the line of fire.

      of the island keeps getting it up the kazoo!


    71. Richard on April 18th, 2008 8:44 am

      I for one think that much of Joran’s “confession” was a lie … Joran has been lying from day one.

      If you look at photos of him, he seems to have gone way downhill over the last three years as well. That’s a purely subjective impression, of course … but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is losing his marbles to some degree. Not that he had many to begin with.

      On an earlier thread, I posted a story about an international child porn ring called the Blue Orchid Wonderland project. Looks like there’s another one that’s been broken up; article is at the end of this post.

      Why put it here? I keep thinking about Freddy’s penchant for child porn (wasn’t he the stayover guest at Joran’s apartment that night?); the fact that PvdScum took down Joran’s Web site, which was used by the “Pimps,” after his arrest (quite an ethical action for a lawyer and wannabe judge … how do you spell destruction of evidence?); and above all, PvdScum’s trip to Florida some months after Natalee vanished.

      He said that he went there because he had to tell Joran’s school that he wouldn’t be going after all. That reason makes no sense at all to me. A letter, phone call, or e-mail would do the job just as well.

      Maybe I’m trying to fit together pieces of the puzzle that don’t go together. But I keep thinking that there must be SOME reason why the cover-up in Aruba has gone on so long, even after factoring in police incompetence.

      Anyway, here’s the article. Most of the animals in this group were based in Florida.

      BOISE — A Boise man pleaded guilty today to being involved in a vast global child porn trafficking ring.
      The U.S. Department of Justice says Warren Weber, 56, was one of 14 alleged members of the enterprise who were charged in a 40-count indictment last month.
      Weber has pleaded guilty to five criminal counts as part of the group. They include engaging in a child exploitation enterprise; conspiracy to advertise, transport, ship, receive and possess child pornography; advertising child pornography; transporting child pornography; and receiving child pornography.
      His case represents one of the first convictions under a new child explotation law passed July 2006.
      Weber admitted to participating in a highly-sophisticated and well-organized crime ring whose purpose was to proliferate child sex abuse images to its members over via the Internet a two-year period.
      Group members used sophisticated encryption methods to avoid detection and traded more than 400,000 images and videos of child sexual abuse before being dismantled by law enforcement.
      The remaining defendants are schedule to go on trial in Florida this June.
      Weber faces a minimum prison sentence of 20 years and a maximum of life imprisonment. He will be sentenced on June 24, 2008.
      The case was brought as part of Project Safe Childhood, a nationwide initiative designed to protect children from online exploitation and abuse.
      For more information go to:

    72. Richard on April 18th, 2008 8:48 am

      Since we know that Aruba, and many other places in the Caribbean, are prime targets for money laundering (as well as narcotics trafficking), it would make sense for groups of filth such as this to have connections there. They must know that they wouldn’t be prosecuted or investigated.

      All conjecture … but I don’t think it’s absurd.

    73. Amsterdam 020 on April 18th, 2008 8:49 am

      @ mommytraveler,

      “the chance that something could happen to them” is a lot smaller in Aruba than in Florida or Cancun or NYC…

    74. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 9:12 am


      but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is losing his marbles to some degree. Not that he had many to begin with.

      -Scooby Do

      Joran-stein THE BUTCHER has had a
      big hole in his marble sack, for quite
      some time. No doubt!

    75. mommytraveler on April 18th, 2008 9:12 am


      I don’t agree. If Aruba really had a handle on reporting crime and did it honestly and thoroughly, the numbers would be higher per capita than Florida. When women and girls are raped the night before they are scheduled to leave, there is no avenue to report the attack or pursue legal channels. Their first reaction is: Just get me home. Twenty times by one predator on American girls has hit a raw nerve in the high schools and colleges – more so, when they see that predator roaming free and laughing about what he did.

      Your girls and women are not safe in Amsterdam, either – if he is roaming about there or whereever he is.

    76. Don on April 18th, 2008 9:44 am

      75 @mommytraveler This is all unproven,unscientific nonsense. Statistically Aruba is still one of the safest places on this planet. No matter what you say.

    77. LilPuma on April 18th, 2008 9:51 am

      46. Dolf. Yes. At the end of her interview with Kimberly Guilfoyle in early ’07 (I think it was ’07), she said “why would she get into the car with 3 boys she didn’t know?” Not a word-for-word quote, but she posed the question. Kimberly didn’t respond.

    78. esther on April 18th, 2008 10:33 am

      There is a dutch man missing in the states since januari,his name is Eric Engers!! Why isnt he found yet !!!!!

      SM: From reading his weblog it appears he went missing in MEXICO not the USA (klaasend)

    79. esther on April 18th, 2008 11:00 am

      He entered the US coming from Mexico,he landed in Atlanta to take a flight from there to Amsterdam.He did not board the plane,
      we havent heard anything since.I know him well,its so strange…

      Thanks for the quick reaction klaasend..
      SM: Really? Because looking at his website it was the other way around. He entered the US then went to Mexico where he disappeared. It does look strange and so does his last message.(klaasend)

    80. esther on April 18th, 2008 11:10 am

      Look on his trip schedule he made..At the left scroll down to vakantie 2008 and you see schema reis..
      SM: Still not clear to me. Has anyone checked to see if he actually boarded the plane to Houston on 1/28/08?

    81. Black Mamba on April 18th, 2008 11:11 am

      Justice is a woman with a sword. I’ve been told Patrick is A MOLE and he will be accounted for.

    82. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 11:32 am
    83. esther on April 18th, 2008 11:33 am

      All that we heard is that he entered the US..
      Every week I see one of his best friends and the answer is always the same,the police is working on it..
      He loves your country :) He went to Aruba ones and he said it was so boring haha ,he said to me Esther go to USA,its such a beautifull country and i was like ye ye ye some day..
      I regret that I didnt go..

      We all think that maybe he doesnt want to be found but that doesnt stroke with how he is…

    84. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 11:50 am

      Long live the Arubian Idiot. I wonder if
      the NOV arrests, were completed to
      make it impossible to put him
      back in jail again?

      I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:

      They’re going to keep on dickin’ around…

      until they get their entire families taken the hell

      out. *IF that was a set-up… it could get

      very nasty, real quick. -j4n


    85. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 11:50 am

      it seems to me that anita is out of line for saying that joran shouldnt of gotten in the car with three boys..
      apparently dhe doesnt understand that when your drugged you dont have many choices you arent in control.
      she was drugged for a reason and the end result was death..
      so anita to put a plug in it…
      she is defending a mentaly sick monster… why didnt she chastise her arrogant spoiled idiot son for being out that late drinking and drugging after all he did have school the next day
      stupid woman and poor ass parent..


    86. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 11:54 am



    87. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 11:58 am

      maybe beth maybe a mistake for sending natalee to aruba but geez shes suffering for it
      and besides who would think that they had such predators laying in wait for young girls including pauulus…
      its been said that joran kept a journal of all the girls
      how sick is that

    88. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 11:59 am

      oops maybe beth made a mistake

    89. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 12:10 pm

      amserdam dude!
      I dont give a damn what you think.. I am just stating that its a possibility!!
      its about justice for natlaie I have nothing to feel bad about..
      consider all the harsh things that have been said about natalee and beth.. imagine calling beth hitler and natalee a whore… they rape all the time there and lord only knows how many others disappeared even their own islandersssss..
      these horrible things were said from an inept corrupt goverment oh and karin jannsen is a joke… what was she doing pauulus..stupid idiots. a town { full of crime..}. they gather like cockroaches ….at the court house a bunch of..
      cornflake eating idiots…………. maybe they need more nutrition that corn flakes … so that they can function……….. what is it an aphrodesiac

    90. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 12:15 pm

      omg carpe
      that hill billy picture is the bomb

    91. Libby on April 18th, 2008 1:57 pm

      #67 Amsterdam I may not “know” all what happened to Natalee that night and or who all was involved. However, in my opinion, based on all everything that has been said and ALL of the lies that have been told…not only by Joran, I feel it is extremely obvious Natalee was drugged, raped and murdered and ALL crimes against her have been covered up. No one will ever convince me differently.

      IF she had died from natural causes, Joran, the K brothers and Paulus wouldn’t have made up the elaborate lie about dropping her off at the hotel…before it was announced she was missing. Also, Paulus would not have made the statement, no body no crime. I could go on and on.

      I never said the K brothers were innocent or were not involved. They were involved. There is no doubt in my mind about that.

      I think most of Joran’s so called confession was a lie…with the exception of the seizure comment.

      I still think…and I have said this from the beginning…Joran and the K brothers took a very drunk and drugged Natalee to the main Vandersloot compound. I think they invited other guys over too. These other guys were invited either to participate in the rape or to watch. After all, they have done at least 20 times or more. I think “something bad happened”…such as choking on her own vomit while being raped….or a seizure due to the combination of drugs, alcohol and being raped. I think she was still alive (barely alive) when Natalee’s mom arrived. I think she was alive when Natalee’s mom was at the Vandersloot compound and that is why Paulus was sweating a river. I don’t think they knew how bad off Natalee was. That is why they were looking up alcohol and drug overdose info on the internet that night…and kept telling the dad to go have a drink because she may show up. I think she eventually died and they needed to get rid of her body. I think Paulus did just that…he paid someone to do it…”your own father…unbelievable.” It was at that point, the cover up began and has continued.

      I pray for justice for Natalee, her family and her friends. As I said earlier. They have no idea how lucky that are that I am not Natalee’s mom.

    92. benh on April 18th, 2008 2:34 pm

      81,If patrick is a mole what was his purpose he did nothing to shut the case down unless his job as a mole was to give Beth some kind of peace of mind .may be the thinking was lets give her something beth a way to close the case in her heart and things would slowly return to normal, But the forgot about scaredmonkeys.

    93. Carpe on April 18th, 2008 3:00 pm

      And Katablog, just because the case with Natalee has been screwed up by the officials, doesn’t mean that this would happen again in the future.

      oh there is some brilliant logic there.

      Ya go into a hospital to have your appendix taken
      out… and the doctor sews your johnson to your
      knee cap…

      BUT DOCTOR! BUT DOCTOR!!! I will feel so
      much better if you promise me this won’t
      happen again in the future.


    94. jasper on April 18th, 2008 3:07 pm

      Monkeys, you are really missing the point these days. To be honest, you are dried out of news sources. Allready getting defencive play without Jasper ?

      American Airlines threaten not to land in Aruba not anymore ? That is really the best news you can come up with ?

      Ow, Monkeys, I could have given you inside information from the real front where the rubber meets the concrete. The case Beth Holloway combined with Bram Moscowitzsch, in a law suite against the Van Der Sloots. There where things get really dirty. Didn´t I warn you about this 3 weeks ago ?

      But sorry, I guess the news that the lawsuite hit rock bottom and has been in Dutch terms “geseponeert” is no information to you…

      sad, very sad, and please, do not call yourself anymore a news forum, ok ? Because the news comes from Jasper, and not from you !

    95. mommytraveler on April 18th, 2008 3:18 pm

      Jasper -

      ARE you Stuck on Stupid, too.

      We’re coming over to Amsterdam and check out the news. Know a few folks there that are specifically on the look-out for information.

      When, Jasper, when are you going to really disclose something new? Tomorrow, next week, next year????? You are a joke, too.

    96. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 3:50 pm

      esther enjoy
      in the event that you have to walk from the airport to your hotel or families house… wear comfy shoes and take plenty of water…
      dont forget to wear your depends.. there may not be a toilet in sight for miles

    97. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 3:53 pm

      go to hell

      you have plenty of company there

    98. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 3:53 pm

      thats4u jasper

    99. Richard on April 18th, 2008 8:39 pm

      Anita vdScum asks “Why did she get in a car with three boys?”

      Considering that one of them was your son, Anita, there may be some point to that question.

      But here’s a better one: Regardless of the reason she got in the car, what did they do to her?

      Or do you think Natalee made herself disappear?

      And why was the first story … from ALL THREE of them (so much, in my view, for Joran’s saying that the Kalpoes weren’t involved) … one big lie?

    100. esther on April 18th, 2008 9:21 pm

      sorry klaasend,but she is really getting on my nerves

    101. esther on April 18th, 2008 9:29 pm

      Misskatie…are you for real? i think you are 1 negative person…sorry..

    102. misskatie on April 18th, 2008 9:51 pm

      your pitiful and pathetic
      the focus here is natalee not you

    103. katablog on April 18th, 2008 10:33 pm

      #64 And Katablog, just because the case with Natalee has been screwed up by the officials, doesn’t mean that this would happen again in the future.

      That wasn’t a screw up – it was a cover up. Joran’s confessions prove that.

    104. brie. on April 19th, 2008 12:10 am

      So Natalee got in the car…well why…because she had met Joran earlier that day on the beach, she met him in casino and she met him at Carlos & Charlies so Joran wasn’t exactly a stranger, he said he was staying at the same hotel…liar…and she trusted the fact that she would be taken back to the the hotel….that never happened..!!! I can see a young girl going for that, hey he’s a nice guy I’m fine….that’s what he made her believe… rotten bastard!!!!!!

    105. brie. on April 19th, 2008 12:19 am

      Esther I don’t know where you came from but go back and do come on here an attack people, especially misskatie….junk it…your a piece of trash!!!!

    106. Ray on April 19th, 2008 12:26 am

      In the Natascha Kampusch case we do not if the officials were worried about a scandal or covering for someone in the pictures.
      If that is all they care they young girls their govt should fall.


    107. Mary,UK on April 19th, 2008 4:50 am

      Shame on any American who visits this island, Hope they have a ONE-WAY TICKET!!!!

    108. kaye on April 19th, 2008 5:55 am

      hey ester #23 ….Your village just called, they’re missing their IDIOT!!!!!!

      for your vacation reading materal, take both beth’s and dave’s books, educate yourself while you’re lying on the beach of that cesspool of an island.

    109. Sharon Chicago on April 19th, 2008 6:35 am

      Hey I don’t get it (other than Joran is a liar) but one of the stories was that he and the Kalpoes stopped at his house with Natalie but did not go in.

      The dots don’t connect since he told Natalie he was a tourist age 19 and staying at the same hotel she was.

    110. Richard on April 19th, 2008 7:36 am

      Ray (#106), An accompanying article to the one I posted above said that Austrians are enraged at the cover-up, and the collapse of the government over the treatment of this “one girl” is very possible.

      A stronger contrast to Aruba, where the only reaction is self-pity at the loss of tourism because of Natalee, cannot be imagined.

    111. Vicki on April 19th, 2008 8:06 am

      TO ALL MONKEYS…the email that was sent to Patrick by mistake happened with gmail. Someone forwarded his email to the Natalee group and when that happens their email automatically gets added on…he CANNOT READ any emails,he has been deleted and it was RUDE of him to email everyone…however, hes gone and if he emails you delete him. It was not done on purpose and he is gone for good and I check daily whos on the list and who isnt…THANKS ALL.

    112. Maggie on April 19th, 2008 12:23 pm

      #103 Katablog I agree, I’ve been here since Aug. 05, haven’t seen anything that points in any other direction since.

      Sharon in Chicago..exactly.. students said Joran said he was a 19 year old exchange student/soccer player from Holland.. He later said Natalee asked if he had a big house and wanted to go see it that night, so they went to his house they said. Always figured he said that, in case someone saw the car there that night.

      Noone knows why Natalee went with the 3, she could’ve been drugged, or threatened, friends outside of Carlos n Charlies said Natalee said she was going back to the hotel with other MB friends up ahead.. Why did Joran take her to another bar in the place and serve her 75 proof rum(his drink) on the way out? Maybe she thought it was a taxi. Why would 3 guys go out at closing time to move in on an intoxicated female? Hans Mos said he has chat sessions of how the these guys operated. They were going to pick up American female tourists and what they planned to do with them.

      Who was that sitting by Natalee in the casino? Why would 2 guys clean their car inside and out before dawn, the night Natalee disappeared? What was that long phone call between deepak and Joran that night, the longest ever between them? Why did Joran give 4 or 5 accounts of how he got home that night? Why did Joran say he left his shoes near the water by the Marriot, yet said he didn’t want to go down by the fisherman’s huts to get them, nowhere by the marriot? Why did Joran say noone got out of the car when they picked him up and yet said we got in the car? Who’s we? Who believes you take your date out walking and talking on the beach and having fun and she gets sick and you throw her in a bush and call someone to get rid of her and you haven’t done nothing wrong? Who believes an 18 year old girl wanted to sit on a beach alone and look at stars at 3am in a foreign country? Wouldn’t you know it, the night she met them and the first time ever in her life? What a coincidence! One minute they have her normal knowing what she was doing sex stuf and the next she’s acting crazy and then back to normal..Their whole entire story is a farce. They have done nothing but obstruct and lie. Every piece of evidence brought forth was labeled tainted, tampered with, altered, or discarded, not including no searches for over 10 days of the people last with her, no home search of the VDS’s for 2 + years. The latest saying he was smoking weed and can’t be believed. What kind of alibi is that? In his own book he’s bragging how he beat a drug test in prison, while smoking weed. Not to mention friends investigating friends and relatives. How about Arlene Shippers , spokesperson for Ahata, cousin of Guido, who, who trashed Natalee’s family on tv and lied more than once about them, then came to the usa to brief officials here about the case. Why was she given access to police files when her cousin was a suspect and friend of Joran’s?

      How many cover ups do you let go by, before you alert people to what is going on? 2? 3? 4? 5?

      Enjoy the sun, I would rather enjoy the sun in a place where I didn’t have to think of the awful fate of Natalee and the injustice every minute.

      Her name is Natalee Holloway, she is the victim.

    113. Carpe on April 19th, 2008 2:59 pm


      He could just lie & say he wanted to
      drop by a friend’s place real quick,
      on the way back to the hotel.

      She probably wouldn’t have thought much
      of it, until they turned the engine off,
      and started to get out of the vehicle.

      If there is one thing that Paulus & Anita’s
      psychotic little sex predator murdering carnivore does well, it is lie. Ok, maybe he doesn’t do it WELL… but he does do it OFTEN. -j4n

    114. Minky from CH on April 19th, 2008 4:18 pm

      After all the cover-up, lies, to many people involved to mess and mix up and confiuse everything and everybody, they should keep Joran in the mental facility for ever, livelong. Thats where he belongs. A Psycho like he is, should not walk free on the streets. Murderer or not. He is a danger to the people. He is unable to come up with one clear story, if it’s the truth or lies, he is a completely mental disturbed creature with a disfunctional brain.

      Anita said “he just wants to go on with his life”. I agree, he should go on with his life in the mental home, until the bitter end.

      Aruba hang Paul$$$$$, he is your guy and on top, he is the creator of this evel brat. The apple does not fall far from the tree!




    115. Carpe on April 19th, 2008 4:21 pm


      In Aruba there is statstically less crime than big cities around the globe.

      Where did you find that statistic?

      …and I do not consider

      “my a$$” an appropriate reply.

    116. misskatie on April 19th, 2008 6:12 pm

      aww Brie
      thanks your a sweetie
      ester is just yearning for some attention …be it negative or positive
      she doesnt understand that this room is not about her.. she hasnt much class..its about .
      the holloways..

      were all here for justice for natalee and to support dave and beth.. it just gets to me when all those attention seekers come here to take the focus off of our cause and put it on themselves…thats when piss n vinegar starts pouring out of my pores lol

    117. misskatie on April 19th, 2008 6:14 pm

      lol lol kaye
      your village is missing an idiot.. I almost fell off my chair here… laughing so hard… I may need a new diaper lol

    118. misskatie on April 19th, 2008 6:20 pm

      thats ok vicky
      we all gave him a piece of our mind..especialy went we went to his website and low and behold he cut n pasted… not to mention he used my full name and my email adress… not your fault… I know it was not intentional ..


    119. misskatie on April 19th, 2008 6:32 pm

      what these people from and for aruba dont get
      is that its the american dollar that pays their salaries.. if no tourists no money…
      than what ??? anita better get her apron on .get in that kitchen and rattle those pots n pans than . make those beds at the hotel… dompigs son mr pimp wanna be can mop n wax dem floors and of course the kalpoes … put them in the hotel laundry room.. to do laundry… pimp them sheets…lol…..oh lets not forget pauulus… he can wait on tables..oh wait he sweats ewww. or perhaps not … no tourists no need…

    120. Ray on April 19th, 2008 11:41 pm

      IMO every person on the island of aruba that set back and watched j2k pray on American Tourist Girls and DID NOTHING to stop them are just as guilty as the persons that caused Natalee’s disappearance.


    121. brie. on April 20th, 2008 5:32 am

      An entire island of people that just sat by and did nothing except protest against Beth telling her to go home…..I think a lot of that was brought on by Dompig and what he told the islanders…I remember seeing him on a TV interview and he said Beth came to crush us….she came to find her daughter….brought the FBI for help and you sat in meetings with them but spoke in your native language so they wouldn’t know what was going on… much done intentionally to avoid solving the case….and then there was that, “This is the final phase”, a tip from a drug addict and drug dealer, no truth to that…the sand dunes….sending everyone on a wild goose chase…..

    122. jimbo on April 20th, 2008 5:51 am

      ARUBA, aaahhhhhh PARADISE :)

    123. misskatie on April 20th, 2008 9:53 am

      anita said :
      he just wanted to go on with his life?
      what is wrong with this picture let me ask .. how about natalees life.. she had a full life planned. …she had goals…she was young beautiful and very intelligent….
      the sloot family robbed her parents of that.,….
      what life does he want to go on with?
      pimping and raping… smoking weed…is that a life…. where is anitas head… he couldnt even keep it together while at college… his mindset was on smoking weed .pimping with those two fugly kalpoes….. clubbing and raping girls… to think that it was mentioned that he kept a journal of the girls he slept with ….how sick is that…. that one big idiot …his family has no morals… no values… nothing absolutely nothing that warrants respect…. the manner in which they live is evidence of it….he needs to stay in that mental hospital for the rest of his living days…. they just dont get it… they have enabled him …. for yrs … from a young adoloscent to adult they gave him his way… who paid for his gambling and drinking… its not a cheap pass time ya know… and if he got the money from daddy dearest…
      where did daddy get the money to live that life style and afford his son the same priviledge… I dont think a lawyers salary can afford all that and lets not forget the constant trips they take…. at the drop of a hat they up and and fro… yesserie bob I am sure that pauulus and his enabling wife anita have alot of skeletons in their closet….sloots hands are in many kettles… somewhere somehow someone is financing his expenses and affording him such a life style… but those that have supported him will eventualy get tired of it… in light of all the kaos this has brought aruba and of course with no end in sight…. sloots are on their way down and out…
      justice for the holloways..

    124. esther on April 20th, 2008 3:26 pm

      Misskatie I work with older people who really wear diapers :)
      Where do you guys get the information that tourism is down in Aruba? My husband came back last week from Aruba and he said Esther where are all those tourists coming from??Uh?? US UK Europe….

    125. esther on April 20th, 2008 3:31 pm

      I understand that you guys want justice,so do i,really,but people still go to our island like it or not!!!
      Boycott is not the answer…Go to aruba if you want justice instead of sitting behind your computer…

    126. misskatie on April 20th, 2008 5:13 pm

      xplain why the beachs are so empty
      explain your elected or appointed or self appointed offcials that are kin folks to eachother…they spend more time sharing vittles at eachothers homes and not to mention how inept.they are..hmmm.. imagine them saying that they have lost lots of money in tourism dollars…hmmmm scratching my head at that one…
      all of you arubians live in denial.. I cant blame you……
      I would be ashame myself if I had to claim being from there..shhhhhhhhhhhhh one crappy island…
      so your husband said….to you..
      esther we sho have many uh folks in dem der beachs..why just today I counted four folks…. i do declare I do think your all having visions of grandur..well since the boycott your new song .. has been out with the old and in with the new… less folks coming to break bread on your island..
      been hitting that moonshine have ya?
      or is it wacky tobaccy … that is so easily acessable on the isalnd..
      or as we say for fun
      girl you smoking that crack again….
      boycott boycott boycottttttt.

    127. kaye on April 20th, 2008 7:18 pm

      Ray #120…….exactly.

      “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.”
      Martin Luther King, Jr.

    128. kaye on April 20th, 2008 7:24 pm

      this one is reserved for van straten, pvds, dompig, oduber, janissen, jacobs, joran, anita, 2k (the list is too long) and the rest of the cowardly, yellow bellied scumbags that stood by and did nothing right OR moral in this case concerning natalee.
      “The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict. ”
      Martin Luther King, Jr.

    129. misskatie on April 20th, 2008 11:09 pm

      any of the people that accepted blood money to keep their mouths shut.. have natalees blood on their hands

    130. esther on April 21st, 2008 9:55 am

      Misskatie,am not ashamed to say am from Aruba.
      Are you proud to be an American? Ofcourse you are,so am I :)

      This beach you refrerring to is the bucuti beach,a small and nice hotel with a huge beach infront! If you could see the high rise hotels and their beaches you will see that they are full…You dont believe me i know that …
      Why do i even bother to reply,well maybe cause am just a good person..

      Have a nice day ..

    131. misskatie on April 21st, 2008 7:52 pm

      I am very proud to be called an american …

      and I am very proud of our justice system.
      where crime is investigated very thoroughly… we have the finest investigators and judges.lawyers…. our legal system has high standards of ethics and moral obligation to do their best to ensure that justice is served.
      beth was not given her day in court..
      had that crime been comitted in the united states we wouldnt have had to be here discussing the inept and horrible way the case was handled..
      I have never ever seen such cruelty and miscarriage of Justice in my whole world …
      I dont have to tell you that aruba’s judicial system is a joke to the world..
      every person involved in natalees disappearance and death will stand accountable…
      Pauulus and his son and his family will never find a moments peace… life is begining to fall apart for them… and for those judges at the court house… they too will see their downfall because you dont do what they did to beth and her family… and not stand accountable…

      all you come here to try to justify your action.. their actions.. but nothing will ever justify what they did.. tourism is one of the money makers for aruba.. and thats taking a plunge downwards… theres no way you can tell me the beachs are full…
      quit trying to justify the mess they created…
      because if it was so good there … you wouldnt have strikers… with bull horns and lounge chairs… all you need is the popcorn
      dont forget the drinks popcorn tends to make one thirsty…

      get used to me ester because I AINT ..going away any time soon.. not until we see JUSTICE SERVED.

      we will continue to boycott the travel shows
      because in america we have the freedom of speech… things aint gonna get any better in aruba
      hell women best start carrying their money in their bra…
      let some one try to grab my money… they’d have to cut my boobs off!!!


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