RSSAruban Minister Booshi Wever Suing Diario, Freedom of the Press, Not in Aruba
In Aruba, words are more offensive than individuals actions …
It appears that once again an Aruban political official is suing Jossy Mansur and Diario for of defamation. Minister Candelario (Booshi) Wever is suing Diario claiming that his reputation was tarnished by statements made in Diario. So much for freedom of the press or free speech.
The minister says that ‘desgraciado’ is one of the worst insults in Papiamento. That word is translated as ‘unhappy’ in the Diccionario Avanza of Jossy M. Mansur (also director of Diario), but in the normal linguistic usage, the meaning is much stronger and very offensive. The article also insinuates that the minister is the owner of a brothel in Venezuela and that Wever’s days are numbered and that he will feel the Colombian Community breathing down his neck. That is actually the reason why the minister instituted the lawsuit to demand a rectification from Diario.
Is it any wonder why Aruban officials could not cope with the American press during the Natalee Holloway disappearance and investigation? These people are more worried about what is said about them than the actual facts that transpire during a story. Its not always the politicians, but the people themselves. Was there anything more heinous than Beth Holloway, the mother of missing Natalee Holloway having to apolgize to the Kalpoe’s for comments made when all signs pointed to the fact that they were some how involved at took part with her daughters disappearance.
Booshi Wever wants to see his name cleared (Amigoe: 5/10/2008)
ORANJESTAD — Minister Candelario (Booshi) Wever claimed damages in a lawsuit yesterday. He did this because he says that his reputation is tarnished with the statements in an article in Diario. He was called a desgraciado in that article that was published on April 15.
The minister says that ‘desgraciado’ is one of the worst insults in Papiamento. That word is translated as ‘unhappy’ in the Diccionario Avanza of Jossy M. Mansur (also director of Diario), but in the normal linguistic usage, the meaning is much stronger and very offensive. The article also insinuates that the minister is the owner of a brothel in Venezuela and that Wever’s days are numbered and that he will feel the Colombian Community breathing down his neck. That is actually the reason why the minister instituted the lawsuit to demand a rectification from Diario.
Apart from a rectification, Wever’s lawyer Anthony Ruiz of lawyers’ firm Croes, Tschong, and Wever demanded a penalty of 100.000 florins imposed on a daily basis in case of non-compliance, and 50.000 florins in damages.
Reason for the article is a nasty incident around the performance of the famous Colombian singer Alci Acosta in Aruba, which didn’t take place due to a provisional work permit that was denied. Lawyer Milko Baiz of lawyers’ firm Gomez and Bikker told the judge that an Aruban radio station organized a spontaneous action afterwards to honour Acosta with a plaquette to express the Aruban Community’s appreciation for Acosta as artist.
Acosta did come to Aruba on the days of the concert, but not as an artist, but a tourist. After he was presented with the plaquette in the presence of the public, he thanked the people by singing a few songs. When he wanted to leave the next day, immigration refused to give him permission to leave Aruba. He was forced to stay two more days in Aruba. Baiz says the article must be considered as the anger expressed by the public. “The Immigration Service confirmed to Diario on thapologizee phone that the order to keep Acosta longer in Aruba came from Minister Wever, which caused the sharp words in the article, but according to my client, whatever the paper said is part of the freedom of press.”
Wever denied in court yesterday that he had anything to do with the forced extended stay of Acosta. He explained that the Immigration Service can take such measures in case of irregularities during a stay. The performance of Acosta without a permit was investigated during the two days that the artist was forced to stay on the island. The judge gives verdict on May 28.
Posted May 12, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Amigoe, Aruba, Diario, Government, Jossy Mansur, Judicial, Media, Natalee Holloway | 87 comments |
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So this guy Acosta sang two songs without a permit to do so … and in return, Aruba forced him to stay there two days? What was there for Aruba to investigate? What threat does the performance of a few songs, apparently without pay, present? What law is there against this?
No wonder Aruba said that our boycott protests were illegal … it simply didn’t like them.
If Aruba doesn’t like something, THAT makes it “illegal” in their eyes. And look how fast this case is supposed to be over … it seems the whole thing will be wrapped up in a month.
Come on, people of Aruba, why aren’t you speaking out? Don’t you realize that this sort of thing only smears your country even more?
More fodder for the boycott … more reason for us to despise you. And certainly, more reason to encourage people to say our slogan:
“No justice for Natalee, no tourists for Aruba.”
But it seems that there is never justice on Aruba.
By the way, Wever, do you own a brothel in Venezuela or not? If not, you have the right to demand a retraction of that specific point … but perhaps it was said because it is true. If Jossy Mansur has the proof, then your presence in Aruba’s government says volumes about the place.
Colombians … join our boycott of Aruba.
Even if in the strict sense of the word “desgraciado” could mean unattractive and said of a person that inspires compassion, in the New Continent it is also a grave personal insult, since it connotes perversity and refers to someone of bad origins, a low-life, someone that is despised.
So yes, Jossy insulted the guy, which in turn is probably truly perverse, because he was intending to levy the singer, when there was no payment in sight.
I read Carlos Tromp’s open letter to Beth in the Forum. Klaas, could you put this letter on the FP? It certainly explains the silence of the people; we’ve seen all the “mysterious” deaths and suicides that have taken place, and the citizens are just plain scared. What a way to live. The Caribbean has the reputation for their dirty politics, the haves and have nots, but this sure brings it home to me. Monkeys, keep up the good work, I lurk a lot but keep up with what’s going on, and appreciate your efforts!
Please do post it here, moderator Klaasen. Perhaps this Mr. Tromp will have some ideas about Amy Bradley as well. We all should see this letter.
___________________________
SM: I’m not sure of the exact letter but Carlos S. Tromp has posted many many times on the front page of SM. Here is a link in the forum to one of his more recent front page posts, maybe this is the one? (klaasend)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.msg380775#msg380775
look for something better to do instead of calling for boycoting aruba… we should boycot your country for what you did to iraq….i travel almost the hole world and all the feedbacks that i
hear is nothing good against the americans…
in a future you cant even go nowhere on vacation
for security reason..because you will be a easy target.. boycot the u.s.a thats will be the slogan for the future.
Ringo, go ahead and boycott all you want, use your inherent right to express yourself freely. Next time you go traveling, don’t visit the hole of the world. Try to visit something better. My best to Paul, George and Geert Wilders.
The letter was posted by Observer, about half way down Page 15 of the Natalee Case Discussion. Thanks!
____________________
SM: Here’s the link to that post:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2830.msg380719#msg380719
your call for boycot is like the movie gone with the wind.it doesnt work…and i am right know in europe.you are calling europe the hole of the world?? hasta la vista baby…
and i`m not going to loose my precious time with you, i beter go sleep..because tomorow i have a tour to the eiffel tower.. ce la vie.. and friday i will be in rome..ciao bambino
Know, now, hole, whole,,, if tourism is going great why are you here complaining? You should be out enjoying all those Columbians on the beach, not worrying here about something so “minor” Last I knew this was about Natalee Holloway and Aruba, not Iraq.. Trying to detract attention away from Natalee and what was done to her in Aruba in May, 2005? Trashing Americans will really help tourism in Aruba.. since the biggest part of tourism came from the Americans. Frankly, Ringo.. I don’t give a….
the word is colombians…those?? they are humans to.we all are son of GOD: you should NOT descriminate.
Not discriminating against them.. this was a reported fact on here not long ago.. 13.6% increase.. nothing discriminatory about it.
Aruba Boasts of 13.6% Increase in Colombian Tourists … To Bad they Only Represent 1.74% of Aruban Tourism
btw Ringo before you tell us we are all God’s children and shouldn’t discriminate.. This is what you wrote about Americans as a comment yesterday on here..
one day….your day will come.stupid ignorants
americans idiot.
They say a fox smells his own hole first, the whole thing.
…and just who would know better than a fox?
—
LOL Supppp, SM peeps?
Justice for Nattie-girl Holloway!
BOYCOTT ARUBA 2008
Hey, Ringo, do us Americans a favor … boycott us for the rest of your life.
And PLEASE include this forum in your boycott.
Thanks for nothing.
Yo Ringo,
As an American, I am just worried to death that you will boycott The U.S.A.
What will we ever do without your dollar eighty five? Horrors!
Ringo loosen the braids, it’s affecting your thinkin.
Booshi Wever?!?!?
Isn’t he the minister who was busted
in Venezuella with cocaine
and paid over $200,000 in cash
to have the charges dropped
and be released to go back to Aruba…
silently?!?!
.
What?
Now he owns a brothel in Columbia?
Kinda makes you want to check it out…
See how many American women he has there!
.
Ringo:
Not everyone says you’re people
are stupid ignorants like you do us.
If you and your people could just get it
through your heads.
Our beef isn’t with you, as much as,
it is with your government…
Surely, you’re not coming here
to defend the Oduber regime?
.
Boycott Aruba!
Oh….
And, Please, Don’t Forget:
The Dutch are fighting in that war with us
or
The terrible crimes that Heussain committed
against his own people…
Remind you of anyone?
How much of Aruba’s treasury do you suppose
Nelson Oduber and his Ministers have stolen
from your people?
Think!
How can a government operate without a budget
or a complete and accurate record of their
spending?
.
Wake Up!
The sword of truth has split the belly of Aruba wide open for all the world to see. Peering into the bowels of their corrupt Government officials inept Polis, and lying Tourism officials is tantilizingly revealing……….in a word, each are PATHETIC. Embarrasing examples of inbred bottom rung laughing stocks.
The satisfying part of examining the reasons for their downfall is that no one had to do anything negative to Aruba….they have disgraced themselves by their own actions and hand.
The BOYCOTT is alive and flourishing. Aruba is dead.
So this Wever, is he kin to that weird Wever kid that Joran is such bosom buddies with?
If the Wevers own a bordello in Venezuela, where do they get the merchandise that they sell in their flesh shop?
Does anyone see the possible connection here? Why haven’t we heard this before?
Is this Wever kin? http://www.mementomori.net/05137.html
Jerry
Dear Ringo:
Thank you for providing me with some much-needed humor tonight! HAHAHA
Greatly appreciated.
P.S. Ever heard of “ESL” ? That stands for ENGLISH (AS A) SECOND LANGUAGE, and it’s offered for FREE in many countries near you. Please learn how to read and write it correctly. Since the course is complimentary, you may even learn how to speak English properly in the future as well.
P.P.S. Have fun on your world-wide travels gossiping to foriegners about how much you dislike Americans. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
Cheers!
From,
A Proud American Laughing at You, Not Discriminating Against You
PEACE ! =)
*** JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY ****
# 18- Miss-Under
LMAO !!!!
~
-J4N
– ** McCain ’08 ** -
To Bob, and all.
The sword has split the belly of this creature Aruba. If one examines the stomach contents and the bowel one can tell what the creature feed on and a time-line can be established by the position of the contents in the intestines as it winds its way to a predictable end.
It is a foul job, it takes much courage. Dave Holloway has the courage and started the job. His sword was dulled and his will dented. He was discouraged from the nasty job by one who appeared to have wisdom, but was only part of the beast not wishing to have his stomach’s contents examined.
Jerry
A sword, a sword, not a delicate instrument. It will require the hands of a surgeon and a fine surgical blade made of obsidian to uncover all the clues.
Who has the skill? Who has the delicate instrument? Who will guard and protect the one with the gifted and trained hands?
Jerry
22: waterboy (jerry) Crossed my mind, too! Where do the Wevers get their bordello slaves? Sheesh, gives me the shivers. No telling who we might find in there who we know!!
boycott aruba
molly in houston
@ A New Girl: I am sure Ringo reads and writes in many languages and English is not his/her first one.Oh and since you seem to be an English teacher its spelled F O R E I G N E R……..@ Bob: The boycott is in your head.Aruba is fine People go shopping,work and go about their lives. 3 years later, the tourists still come and everything is back to normal.
you know.. maybe you right the boycot is working.. but with more tourist coming to aruba.nobody is really worry about that small
incident.in your own country you have thousands of people who´s missing each year. it seems that nobody it´s concern about that. the tourist don´t realy want to hear about that case no more. that´s what the same americans and europeans say.they just want to enjoy our nice and beautiful beaches and our first class restaurants in peace… fanally a would like to thank you all for the great propaganda that you are doing for aruba and free…
things is not bad like you think..better days to come… god bless you all.
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SM: Yea, you keep on dreaming that little dream. That’s why the AHATA cringes at Travel Shows.
People use drugs too, does that mean that awareness of the bad aspects of drugs is propaganda for them?
@ken thank you!i speak inglish,dutch,spanish,and german. a thumbs up! for you. you know what i mean..
Ringo,
Evil abounds. It’s everywhere. I know that, you know that. Difference between the U.S.A. and Aruba is, we round the evil blood letters up and hang them from them from the nearest tree. We will eventually get ahead of the game (if we don’t run out of rope).
Aruba, on the other hand, pats their criminals on the back and tells them what good boys they are. When the blood is knee-deep in the streets, maybe your country will do something. Don’t expect any of us to volunteer our life-blood to the rising red tide.
When the vampires roam the streets, it’s time to stay inside. It’s time for the vampire hunters to do their job, not cower behind locked doors, afraid they too may be thrown off the nearest roof top, crucified and burned, hung, or forced to commit suicide in a locked storage container.
You drink your rum and smoke your grass. You bury your head in the sand. But look out! You might pull your head from the sand and be missing body parts, or be unable to pull your curly locks form the sand because there are not enough parts left to do so.
You have one dangerous, dangerous island.
Jerry
waterboy! whitch movie is that. i want to see it to.
People, please don’t feed the trolls….
RICHARD
THAT IS TO FUNNY… maybe they will go feast elsewhere
they come here like roaches….
ringo
you say you dont want to hear about that case anymore
referring to natalee!!!
I HAVE THE SOLUTION
DONT COME HERE ANYMORE.. ITS ABOUT NATALEE AND NOT YOUR ISSUES!!
I am so sick and tired of this whole fiasco…A HUMANE BEING was MURDERED on that VILE EVIL PLACE and these IDIOTS think all is back to NORMAL???WTF???It will NEVER be the same. We have seen the disease ridden place for what it is…and it STINKS…DROP DEAD YOU STUPID TROLLS.
thanks klaasend
very interesting letter he tells it like we asume it is in aruba
.the corruption that is…
what do you make of it richard or pattI??
YA THINK HE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD??
get em vicky!!!
DIRTY SCOUNDRELS THAT THEY ARE
COMING HERE TO STIR THE NEST.. WE NEED A BOUNCER AT THE DOOR TO KEEP EM OUT
#28- Ken- Excuse me for my typographical error. I never professed to be an English Teacher, nor ever professed any hatred or malice towards the Island of Aruba or it’s citizens.
I have voiced my overall objections to the gross injustice(s) surrounding the Natalee Holloway case. The whole thing is BOGUS and wreaks of corruption.
As for your update on the “normalcy” on the Island— I have been there several times. Like anywhere, Aruba has it’s share of drugs, murder & various violent crimes. Glad you think that’s “normal” that an American Girl goes missing (gets dumped at Sea after she’s been drugged and taken sexual advantage of) , and the main perpetrator admits to his involvement in the crime (and then profits from it). On top of all that, the legal system in place allows the criminal(s) to remain free! (One of whom was a Judge-in-Training who helped the main perpetrator cover up his crime).
Sorry !!! But somehow- I don’t think that’s “normal”. Thanks for your input, however. All of which I might point out is completely IRRELEVANT- that’s spelled:
I R R E L E V A N T
P.S. Go have another beer on the beach and do the Merengue with Ester and Don, Ken! Get a clue, please!
-J4N
Richard is right—we have to stop feeding the trolls….lol
So, please…..Send our kindest regards to Joran, the Kalpoes, and Anita & Paulus, et al…..they are all going to meet their maker one day and it’s not going to be pretty ! Blood is on their hands.
Shame on all of them, and damn the crooked Officials on that Island, too- each one of them is going to rot in hell for what they’ve done to an innocent girl and her family.
******* JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY *******
Yes, people are spending a lot of time on here, feeding the trolls. And still they have diarrhea (sp?)of the mouth. Perhaps if no one feeds the trolls, they will just dry up and go away.
Vicki, email me and tell me how you are doing.
boycott aruba
molly in houston
What we need is a CROSS….SATANS SPAWNS…
Ringo is a fool…
Blinded by the darkness that thrives in his soul
an excellent example of what Waterboy was saying
about them not WANTING what’s inside to be
examined, exposed, diagnosed and disposed.
.
He’s more interested in pounding the drums
than
Lighting The FIRES!
.
F.U., Ringo!
Although, Waterboy is fully capable of handling
you himself, against the likes of you
and
your demons,
a HUNDRED fold…
Fly like a Bird!
.
And you wonder why so many people HATE Aruba!
.
Oduber was right…
They ARE embarrassed!
Not, humbled;
Not, compassionate;
Not, Sorry…
only embarrassed…
Could it be that is the extent
of what they are capable of
feeling?
What about ASHAMED?!?!?
.
Boycott Aruba!
Americans, Stay OUT of Aruba!
Join the Boycott!
.
@ miss katie i will take your advice.and by the way i wish you good luck with your boycot ha ha ha
bye bye people….aruba ariba
ringo paris france
Waterboy:
I think there is a connection between the Weaver
girl and Natalee’s disappearance… definately.
.
And that boy, from the lighthouse, too.
.
Thanks for ALL you do!
I saw Mary,UK on Gretawire this morning trying to drum up interest on the 3rd anniversary of Natalee’s loss. All her notice got was “nobody is interested”. What a callous bunch they can be over there, and it relates back to a lot of who post there…some real foul mouthed ignoramuses.
What do you guys wanna bet Ringo is really Paul’s ex wife?
#39 New Girl
….
yes, yes.
….
“As for your update on the “normalcy” on the Island— I have been there several times. Like anywhere, Aruba has it’s share of drugs, murder & various violent crimes. Glad you think that’s “normal” that an American Girl goes missing (gets dumped at Sea after she’s been drugged and taken sexual advantage of) , and the main perpetrator admits to his involvement in the crime (and then profits from it).”
*snip
Right, you know what I think though….
Captain Hiney Pirate’s book about how I raped
and killed Natalee Holloway and got away with
R-E-D-R-U-M
… must not be selling too well, if he’s
been caught rippin’off
some ol’ disco dancing queen geezer
for dough to go play in Thailand.
This is true my dear, yes / no ???
—
JUSTICE FOR NAT!
BOYCOTT ARUBA 2008
“Rhetoric does not get you anywhere, because Hitler and Mussolini are just as good at rhetoric. But if you can bring these people down with comedy, they stand no chance.”
-Mel Brooks
I am just pointing out that the “boycott” seems absurd.If that is being a troll, then I guess I am a troll.Yes Joran may have gottten off but he does not even live there anymore.Most people have forgotten about the case and unless Joran does something crazy like rob a bank or commit murder, then this case will remain under the radar.Most Americans will not think about this case before taking a vacation in Aruba.I was recently there and it seemed to be bustling with the hotel pretty full and the line to get beach towels was long.This site seems to be a big circle jerk where veryone agrees with each other.Kinda like FNC.
If it was Ken, they wouldn’t keep letting your posts through.
(the CJ thingy ma-bobbie)
Joran doesn’t still live there… but his
cell-phone smuggler… Paulus Vandersloot and
the two Kalpoes still do.
I don’t let any of those lying, justice obstructing sobs “off da hookus” for one moment!
They are dirty as sin!
Throwing a girl away in the sea in Aruba, not knowing if she is alive or dead seems absurd to me.
http://tinyurl.com/h5sen
kiltie 65
I started out in greta wire…. I lost interest ….they dont post anything about natalee anymore or do they?
it seems like it was hot topic when they were getting the ratings..
I dont bother going there anymore
I commend maryuk for her efforts…
maggie?
pauls x wife?
xplain please
ken, some beach, some where….what????im just singing…….
Ringo #32,
Hey, you got me there. Here’s the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_'Em_High
It’s one of my favorites. It is a must see.
This one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good%2C_the_Bad_and_the_Ugly
Can’t get any better.
Jerry
Ken:
You crack me up…
Everything back to normal?
Is it NORMAL for a Minister
to buy drugs in foreign countries
and still have a couple hundred “G”s
for hush money?
Is it NORMAL for a Minister
to own a BROTHEL in Columbia?
What, exactly, does that tell us about you?
.
You’re a liar!
There is no normalsy in Aruba
and the visitors are not standing in line.
The Cruise visitors don’t even get off the ship,
and your country and its’ economy are in the
TOILET…
If that’s NORMAL for you,
then, Welcome Home, Sailor…
Obviously, you’ve been gone a LONG time!
.
Boycott Aruba!
Personally,
I’m planning on calling Tim,
and voluteering for the search.
I’ll see with my own eyes
how NORMAL Aruba, really, is…
.
Justice for Natalee
and ALL the Others!
.
Patti: Hi Tim, my name is Patti and I believe with 100% certainty that Natalee Holloway was eaten by cannibals. Can I come help you search?
Tim: Uh…thanks…but…uh…I think I got it handled.
Ringo,
Let’s try that first link again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_'Em_High
Jerry
Oh, well, I tried. Just type the whole thing in.
Jerry
Ken #51
Your logical way of thinking is quite amazing!
“..he does not even live there anymore”.
Do you really think, if a suspect/murder flees a country, it’s not anymore a suspect/murder or people will forget?
He is still supect #1 in a murder case!
His dirty face is well known over the whole world and people wont forget.
Wherever his name shows up, it will be connected with the Natalee Holloway case.
He can’t escape! The world is to small.
“…and the line to get beach towels was long”.
A very ‘powerfull statement’ about tourists and Hotel occupancy!
Specially when they only have a couple towels to be washed over and over again and the tourists have to wait until they are dry!
You better go now and buy some more properties in Aruba or invest your money in the “Beach-Towel-Business”.
Next time please try hard to use your gray cells, before posting anything.
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
DOWN WITH THE PERPS
BOYCOTT THE DEVELS HELL
Joran TIMS COMING HE COULD FIND HER
One would think that the van der Sloots would be hated on Aruba. After all, they know the answers that we seek … they could provide them, which for some people would end the animosity towards Aruba (not in my eyes, given the corrupt government) … and doing so would ease the boycott.
Instead, as far as I know, there hasn’t even been a move towards censuring PvdScum for his proven lies and evasion of justice. Aren’t there supposed to be some ethical standards for lawyers?
Then again, what a mockery to talk about ethical standards on Aruba. So if they sink in the ocean, the only damage would be the polluted waters that would result. Boycott Aruba.
Hey, will someone tell Eminem to put his shirt back on??? He’s not all that muscular to begin with, and it is probably how the li’l fart recently came down with pneumonia.
On the positive side, I’m diggin’ the hat!
-j4n
LOL YOYO!!!
Re: Patti & Tim’s phone conversation satire.
I’m glad that the situation in the case of Natalee -by thinking we are one in thinking- will soon be over for me. Asking my Friend above… why?
He told me that the unbeleave is to big… He has somethingelse for me…
It’s better…
I have seen many people -included those I loved_ jump and get out of life.
I cannot speak in this case enough for Natalee.
But while I’m thinking overhere, I know one thing:
Are you searching for Natalee and wanna have the money?.. you know what I mean by every finding.
Or did you came… in that all hate I every time hear?
Or did you recognize something… for the rest of your live.
Jesus said to me that He didn’t call you all to see…
Forgive the words.
I hope to see you soon never again
Take care, Herman. I have watched all of your
You Tube videos about Nat.
I think you’re a caring man.
All your base are belong to us, bro bro!
BOYCOTT ARUBA 2008
yoyo
leave patti alone!!!
YOUR ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE SNERTS
WHAT IS YOUR REASON FOR COMING HERE
IT ALL PRESENTS NEGATIVE
CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING NICE
OR DO U ESPECIALY LOVE THE ATTENTION U GET
OVIOUSLY ..YES….
WE HAVE ENOUGH TO CONTEND WITH ALL THE TROLLS….
ADDING YOU TO THE TROLLS LIST….
SNERTS FOR YOUR INFO YOYO
ARE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS TROLLS
WHY DO U PERSIST ON TAKING PEOPLES WORDS AND TWISTING THEM
I HAVENT EVER IN THE WHOLE TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE
HEARD YOU SAY ANYTHING INTELLIGENT…
OR NICE FOR THAT MATTER…
SO DONT PICK ON PATTI BECAUSE OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF HER HEART SHE IS WILLING TO HELP TIM…
WHAT EFFORTS HAVE U PUT FORTH
POSITIVE EFFORTS THAT IS..
what’s a “snert”?
Is that a smurf on acid?
Hey Yo Yo!
LOL!!!
But, I already know Tim and he is fully aware of the reputation of the Arawak.
What?
You can write, but you can’t read?
I never said that she was eaten…
Although, most people that are killed in those festivals are…
.
Difference between you and I…
I don’t presume to know everything.
I ask for help around here all the time.
But, I do know what it means to be an Arawak…
.
Do you?
A snert is a cross between a
SNOT
a
JERK
and
a
PERVERT!
Your brain is perverse in your thinking…
You believe in little men in white sheets
that steal you from your bed at night…
But, you don’t believe in a culture
that has existed for centuries…
That practices Human Sacrifice
and
Cannibalism?
.
Go back to your shack in Alabama…
Hide under the sheets….
Because there are worse things
in the world than prejudism.
.
You’re on the wrong site, Yo Yo…
There are no KKK here.
.
Everyone:
The Holloways, Tim Miller and everyone else
on Natalee’s team have seen the Chicago Videos.
To think that we, or I, have come up with a new
revelation in the case of Natalee Holloway,
would not only be naive,
but arrogant, as well.
I’m not here to sway your thinking
one way or another…
I’m just giving you one more possibility.
.
Besides, if you have read my past posts:
You know I believe there are human bones
everywhere in Aruba.
It doesn’t take much to prove
or disprove cannibalism.
I, for one, want to know the truth;
one way or another.
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Has anyone who has repor with Greta
told her about this brothel…
Someone needs to check it out!
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Boycott Aruba!
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Justice for Natalee
and ALL the Others!
Miss Katie, Ringo.. Paul’s x wife- Heather Mills..
Ken is now the voice for most people and Most Americans. Most Americans will go to Aruba , they don’t care what happened to Natalee. Most people have forgotten Natalee Holloway lost her life in Aruba. Ken you are sounding more and more like the Ahata.. Read the headlines today, tourism still isn’t what it was pre Natalee Holloway and people are spending less on vacations. Kind of blows that myth of most people and most Americans dont care or forgot.
Line for towels…Minky lol
Maggie, Patti, Richard, Miss Katie,Carpe, et al:
I don’t post here much, but do read more than a few of the posts, almost daily. While I haven’t given up the hope that justice in this horrible case will prevail, I’m realistic enough to know that it may not.
The kens and the ringos of the world are here to discourage, disparage, to blow smoke. They are about as important and irrelevant on this site as whale flatulance. When they post, run for cover!
I’ve posted in the past about a co-worker who continued to visit Aruba every year. This past week, while I was in Cabo San Lucas, she and her mate made their 9th annual trip to Aruba. I asked how the trip went, and she volunteered that the place they stayed at was at 40% of capacity. She was happy not to have to wait in long lines for towels, and for my part, the 40% capacity number was music to my ears.
May the boycott of Aruba continue until justice for Natalee and the Holloway family is served!
I am with Vicki…I am tired of this whole fiasco..Rick Smid will make sure Natalee’s case will never come to be…and there is nothing we can really do about it….unfortunately…there are many things in this case that they could of been arrested for but non of that happened…and it never will…Oduber took Joran out of the limelight..and Rudy said he not welcome on the island…that is about how far this is every going to go…!!!
Valero anyone?
I was talking with this guy today, and just making conversation. He told me earlier in the year, he had worked contract in Aruba for Valero http://valero.hrdpt.com/ He said he could only work 6 weeks out of the year, because of their labor laws. (I think he said 6 weeks. I’ll see him again next week, and I ask for sure.)
He knew about Natalee. I just pretended I was casually interested. He said, “you know, the girl those three bums killed. One of the boy’s dad is a lawyer.” He said there was a lot of talk about Natalee. He knew her name.
He said they worked in the sun all day, and at night they would go to a different restaurants to eat, since the company paid for everything. I ask him about the lighthouse restaurant, he said he wasn’t impressed.
I think I’ll ask him to take some photos for me if he goes back. I would like photos (possible a couple of hundred from the lighthouse, and pictures of all the graveyards, C&C (particularly the parking lot behind), and possible the Lion’s Den if he can find it. Can anyone give me any other ideas for photos.
He works like a dog, and the company (not Velaro) really takes advantage of him (unbelievable hours and lots of travel). He may not be with them too long.
He said that Valero bought the refinery about a year ago. Does anyone know anything about this? I know we talked about Valero several months ago, but I didn’t realize that they were on Aruba.
Jerry
It has reached a point of supreme depressing …..there is nothing more we can do….boycott is the only thing that is left…!!!!
here’s a little ditty that should place a smile of satisfaction on everyone’s face (provided Aruba Tourism decides to report truthful numbers for a change):
Tomorrow is May 15th. It is expected that tourism by Americans, based upon US Airline arrivals, and Hotel bookings of visitors having a US address in Q1, 2008…………..will be reported to show a continuing DOWNDRAFT of another 17% by visitors from North America, quarter over quarter.
This is a gut wrenching financial disaster by any standards. We believe a negligible increase of .35% by visitors from South America, and bare minimal increases from EU will also be reported.
How embarrassing…….but justified.
brie
yes it is depressing to see that these fools are running free especialy pauulus and joran … makes me ill.
maggie yes my friend the boycott needs to continue.. its our only hope that … aruba sinks financialy….
sweet thang we must perserviere until we see aruba sinking financialy .. its our only hope that the boycott hits them hard in the pocket!!!!
BOYCOTT CONTINUESSSSSSSSSSS
78: Waterboy (jerry) Wow, good stuff. Get that guy to take a ton of pictures. I keep wishing that someone could go to the rocks and take pictures. Closeups of the ‘paint’ would be great.
It sounds like the word is out about Natalee. Many people claim that no one talks about Natalee on Aruba. Perhaps it ain’t so.
We boycott Valero gas stations because the company has the refinery in Aruba.
Keep us posted on this guy!
boycott aruba
molly in houston
Significant First Quarter loss in Aruba tourism. Sounds good to me.
boycott aruba
molly in houston
Don’t get disheartened. The boycott continues. Beth does have a civil case going (where did all these subpoenas go that were supposed to be flying around, and how is that going?), Equusearch is going back for a look see, Joran is a virtual “man without a country”, no job, no education, and no hope. Aruba is being hammered financially, having strikes, etc. When Aruba or the Netherlands takes some sort of conclusive action against the Van der Sloot contingent and Kalpoes, then I’ll we willing to say RIP Natalee.
kiltie65
your so right I have thought the same…
Joran has no job no skills no education…. he is living off of his parents…..
how long can that last…
his mind is not on education…..
rather on… pimping and gambling and drugging
you would think that by now his parents would be getting a little fed up with having to finance his life style
not to mention his rebellious attitude…..
they created that monster.. they can live with it…
and my next comment is…
is aruba tired of the boycott that was the result of pauulus and jorans doings!!!
how long will they continue their support for them….there son will spend his life going from country to country.. to avoid being held responsible for natalees murder………………
also th4ey harbor the kalpoe’s for how long will that too will last….
As i posted on GRETAWIRE, I think it a good idea that from the third anniversary she should have posted on screen “1095 days the State Department ignore Natalee”, I can tell you that if Natalee was a fellow countryman of mine i would be incandescent with rage at the situation and the complete silence from the government departments that we would presume would have an interest.
I can tell you that although i am a Brit i am “incandescent with rage”, as a fellow human-being,woman,mother,sister and friend!!!!
#86 mary……i agree that there should be some sort of 3-yr anniversary story but i don’t see that happening here in the US. i wrote to and emailed every large TV network, every prime time show host(i.e. greta, o’reilly,larry king,nancy grace, GMA, 48 hrs, dateline, etc) in this country and the BBC asking for a 3-yr anniversary story showing how aruba has done NOTHING in three years to bring closure for the holloways. to this date i have heard nothing.
it’s not important to them anymore as it won’t bring their ratings up. i’m not saying that individual persons don’t care anymore, i’m sure there are some who do, but large corporations don’t give a rats butt about this case.no money in it for them. even our own government here in the US has shown no interest in solving the case. they turned their back on beth/dave/natalee. very sad.