Texas Equusearch Maybe Searching For Jose Manuel Vencenzo Tromp Missing in Aruba Since November 27, 2007

 

It appears that there is another missing person in Aruba. This time its one of their own. Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp has been missing in Aruba since November 27, 2007. Will the ALE care to investigate this case of an Aruban missing in Aruba? Its not like it will affect tourism, so one wonders whether it will be swept under the rug.

According to Tim Miller of TES, the family has contacted Texas EquuSearch to come to Aruba and help search for missing Jose Manuel Vencenzo Tromp. Texas Equusearch who went to Aruba multiple times in search of Natalee Holloway may now being going back to Aruna to search for one of Aruba’s own.

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Jose Manuel Vicenzo Tromp, age 30, disappeared on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 in Oranjestad, Aruba and has not been seen or heard from since.  Jose was last seen wearing dark blue tennis shorts, a gray t-shirt and black slippers.

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  • Comments

    137 Responses to “Texas Equusearch Maybe Searching For Jose Manuel Vencenzo Tromp Missing in Aruba Since November 27, 2007”

    1. brie. on May 7th, 2008 6:50 pm

      look to your authorities for help…you never did anything to help us find Natalee…

    2. misskatie on May 7th, 2008 7:05 pm

      were his parents!!
      HELPING TO LOOK FOR NATALEE?

      and did tim agree to go!!!

      wonder what aruba did to look for one of their own!!!

      THIS MAKES THEM LOOK BAD!!!
      aruba that is

    3. misskatie on May 7th, 2008 7:07 pm

      maybe if tim agrees he can look for natalee again
      are they going to pay him.. the family that is
      you know that the aruban govt wont pay for anything…

      go to pauulus adress
      maybe he has him in the cement tooo

    4. mrs. red on May 7th, 2008 7:07 pm

      Oh… but the point is… Aruba doesn’t care for anyone… especially one of thier own that doesn’t and can’t affect tourism. It’s sad that life has no value there

    5. misskatie on May 7th, 2008 7:08 pm

      p.s
      what were the circumstances of his disappearance
      sure it has nothing to do with the sloots

    6. misskatie on May 7th, 2008 7:45 pm

      why would tim even consider going there if he did!!

      aruba did nothing to help us find natalee

      why would aruban authorities even let anyone of their people consider such an option…

      it makes aruba look like asses
      like they cant do their job right

      WHICH WE KNOW IT TO BE TRUE!!!!

      im speechless:(

    7. misskatie on May 7th, 2008 7:45 pm

      :(

    8. Tamikosmom on May 7th, 2008 8:28 pm

      Maybe this young man has a connection to Roy Tromp. Roy Tromp was Paulus van der Sloots interrogator. I do not believe he has been seen since his implicating words.

      Roy Tromp
      Paulus van der Sloot’s Interrogator
      CBS NEWS
      August 5, 2005

      Tromp said investigators believe van der Sloot, who turns 18 on Saturday, is the prime suspect and that he had some assistance from his father, Paul, an apprentice judge on the island. “We believe something went wrong with the girl, and the first person you are going to call is your daddy,” said Tromp. “In this case, daddy would know exactly what to do.”

      Tromp, who declined to provide details about exactly what investigators believe happened to Holloway, said that Paul van der Sloot has also changed his account the night Holloway vanished. “Why should you do that if you are telling the truth?” he said.

      http://wcbstv.com/topstories/Aruba.Natalee.Holloway.2.256295.html

    9. richard on May 7th, 2008 8:34 pm

      Don’t ask me to believe this story … why, Aruba is “one safe happy island” with no crime.

      The name Tromp sounds Dutch to me … I wonder if his family is connected at all to anyone?

      We’re all inclined to read tea leaves, at this point … could this be a gesture of disdain for the local police?

      My initial instinct is to look at this as a drug deal gone bad … who knows? Just think if this guy had connections to Pitbull or the Pimps.

      I wonder if Aruba will tell them that they’re not allowed to search for an Aruban on Aruba … they have to get local licenses. After all, isn’t that what they threatened TJ Ward about, way back when?

    10. ayfit on May 7th, 2008 8:39 pm

      maybe while looking for this guy,they will find Natalee,wouldn’t that be a kick in the ass. Remember way back I said with a full blown confession,we would not get a conviction? Well we have our confession and we have NO conviction. What does this say about Aruba? It says stay away. It says boycott this awful place.

    11. LilPuma on May 7th, 2008 9:13 pm

      I’m surprised they called Tim Miller. It makes me think they suspect foul play and are getting no cooperation from local authorities.

      I’ll pray for this man and his family as I do for other missing persons. I have no reason to believe they know anything about Natalee’s disappearance or the Aruba-Sloot coverup. I have to wonder if Tim would be welcome there, even if he agreed to go.

    12. minnesota dad on May 7th, 2008 9:41 pm

      I would think Texas Equisearch would be banned from the island after destroying the endangered turtle nest….what a joke.

      Who wants to be the ‘turtle nest’ ruse was one of AHATA’s admitted counterattacks against the Holloways and anyone assisting them?

      MD

    13. Lobham on May 7th, 2008 11:08 pm

      Wow. You people are pretty harsh.

      I hear what you all are saying about Aruba. I hear, and understand.

      But why would anyone fault Tim’s group for helping find someone who’s family is in need? Do you think that just because this man was from Aruba that his family does not hurt in his absence just like the Holloway’s do?

      Brie and MissKatie – to insinuate that TES should not help this man’s family simply because he’s Aruban and “didn’t help find Natalee” is completely sickening and disgraceful. You need to have your head examined.

    14. Carpe on May 7th, 2008 11:10 pm

      BOYCOTT ARUBA!

      &

      Save the TURTLES bro, bro.

      Remember: A turtle is a terrible
      thing to waste! -Zoolander

      http://tinyurl.com/5gusz7

      Hi, Mrs. Red!

    15. Klaasend on May 7th, 2008 11:26 pm

      Tim Miller will not turn down a request for help. Tim doesn’t care what nationality the person is. The question is, will ALE/Aruba allow Tim to help?

    16. Carpe on May 7th, 2008 11:27 pm

      Did anyone else see Anita Vandersloot partying
      with a friend at Bahia this weekend?

      http://tinyurl.com/5wnguu

      -j4n

    17. Ray on May 8th, 2008 12:31 am

      Tim can do to suit himself,but I, myself would have them agree to something.
      1. Aruba would pay all cost.
      2. ALE must not block the search.
      3. ALE should help where possible.
      4. the first time they wont let you search,and they wont search I would packup and go hame.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.

      If I find out that they spent one Dollar donated to search for Natalee to search for an aruban I will send all my donation to the Natalee Holloway foundation in the future. Im sorry that is just the feel.

    18. Ray on May 8th, 2008 12:49 am

      How come we have not heard about Jose Tromp before now .Is this another coverup.
      I think AHATA and ATA should pay for searches on aruba, They have millions to PAY for PR MEN and TRAVEL SHOWS.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.

    19. brie. on May 8th, 2008 1:40 am

      #13…..no we are not harsh in the slightest…but Tim is a very valuable to us and after the way Aruba treated Beth on a land search why would we want to expose Tim to any of that…no one there will help to contribute money for our Persistence to come back and help find Natalee….I’m sorry this person is missing but we have our own people to look for….you haven’t contributed anything to our Texas Equusearch but yet you want our contributed money to help find one of your people….the American’s have supported your island for many years but when we ask for help we get nothing…appeal to your local authorities….he’s probably in the ocean along with everyone else…..I’m sorry for the family of this missing person but I don’t think it would be safe for Tim to involve himself with Aruban authorities….especially if they have done something wrong again…

    20. Bearlyhere on May 8th, 2008 2:54 am

      Aaaah. I had my thoughts typed out and they were eaten by the Blog Monster (BM)!

      I agree with Mrs. Red, LilP, and Klaas. I even think Nat may have her hand in this trying to build bridges where they have been destroyed by the rich and wannabe famous on the island.

      Tim Miller is the best guy for the job, he knows that it can happen to anyone in the blink of an eye. I hope they find both Jose and Nat and give their families some well-deserved peace.

    21. brie. on May 8th, 2008 3:29 am

      #13….to repeat your words…what is sickening and disgraceful is the way you treated Beth and her family….and you think it doesn’t matter…never lifted a finger to help…so don’t come on here and ask for help and insult us….we have every reason in the world to deny you anything….it was all probably another cover-up, why? Something really stinks about this…..!!!!!

    22. brie. on May 8th, 2008 3:33 am

      Is Patrick on here!!!!

    23. Jerry from Ohio on May 8th, 2008 4:34 am

      I realize that a lot of folks are angry with Aruba and the ALE but from what all I have seen from TES and Tim Miller he urges the group to remain out of the political end of this and they search for THE MISSING PERSON ! this is there focus and their speciality .
      My only and MAJOR concern is the legal system that The group TES might have to deal with those Aruba courts are crazy IMO.

    24. Scared Monkeys on May 8th, 2008 5:14 am

      I think its important that every one consider the fact that they did call TES and Tim Miller for help.

      Folks, that’s a good sign. This is what it takes sometimes for people to change and do the right thing. This is how hearts and minds are changed.

      Please note that the family has expressed concern that Natalee be found. I am sure there will be more to come on this.

      I could imagine that the powers that be were probably none to happy with a request for TES to help search. No matter, Tim Miller has always stated in the past that all missing persons are important and all should be found.

      Building bridges is always important. Many times its not with politicians, its with the people. Trust is not always an accepted thing in many places of the world.

      Arubans were brainwashed that the efforts were being made only because Natalee was American. I can remember in the early days of this case (like day 1-2) Arubans were commenting on the FP that no such effort would ever been made if one of their own had gone missing.

      Well now they may just get the same group searching for one of their own.
      R

    25. Miss-Underestimated on May 8th, 2008 6:36 am

      I guess this a testimony to Tim Miller and his staff. I say go Tim, maybe, maybe, the by-product of this search may turn up something about Natalee. Maybe, maybe, a local Aruban may have enough compassion for Natalee that Tim has for Jose, to share some knowledge about the what and where of Natalee.

      I wish the best for Jose and his family.

    26. Miss-Underestimated on May 8th, 2008 6:39 am

      16. Carpe….LOL not a good promo for Harvard

    27. guajiri on May 8th, 2008 7:11 am

      There is a possible connection here, and I am surprised you guys haven’ noticed it yet.
      On Nov 21 Joran gets arrested in Holland,
      on Nov 24 he is flown to Aruba and
      transported to KIA. He is released on Dec 7
      Tromp who is perfectly fit and healthy goes missing on Nov 27.
      He worked in KIA.
      Is there a link here ?

      Brie
      Why do you think #13, Lobham is from Aruba ?

    28. buster on May 8th, 2008 7:15 am

      How do the aruban polis know Jose is missing ??? I mean if there is no Jose then how do the aruban polis know he is gone ??? No Jose No crime

    29. ldstlou on May 8th, 2008 7:39 am

      Wow!! I am dissappointed in some of the posts. Why wouldn’t Tim Miller go help this family find their loved one. Didn’t we experience first hand the devastation of not knowing where your loved one is or what happened through Natalee’s family? I say God Bless Tim Miller for being the hero he is. His compassion and empathy formed through his own lost has made him a living angel in my mind. Goodness, a family is in pain right now, I don’t care where they live, they are in pain and need help!!

    30. Jerry from Ohio on May 8th, 2008 8:05 am

      I am very proud of the majority of my fellow SM friends and am proud to be a SM from Ohio .
      When we all think and are calm after seeing all of the trouble in the world Including the USA that In my opinion that as a group we have some of the most
      compassionate and empathetic sincere people on the planet, and a huge Thank you to Red for having the
      foresight and the compassion to begin a project like the SM .
      P.S. and a big old Thank you also to Mrs RED for putting up with Mr Red ( I Bet there have been some very interesting conversations at that house ) .
      your friend and fellow SM Jerry from Ohio

    31. bro on May 8th, 2008 8:10 am

      hopi bon #29..tur esnan merikano ku ta skirbi kontra Aruba mester laganan konsenshi traha i djis bai wak kwantu hende tin perdi na Merca mes ku nunka nan a hanja i ku ningun esfuerso ta wordu hasi pa hanjanan tampoko!!!!

    32. downloadingdaddy on May 8th, 2008 8:21 am

      Tim Miller is an awesome man and I couldn’t imagine him not searching for someone because of where they live. God bless Tim and all the searchers that work with him, they are truly gods angels.

    33. Miss Katie on May 8th, 2008 8:53 am

      CARPE

      A TURTLE IS HOW SLOW THEY MOVED IN THIS INVESTIGATION

      IF ANY !!!

    34. Miss Katie on May 8th, 2008 8:56 am

      Lobham..burger

      i could care less what you think!!
      you speak w/fork tongue like everyone from aruba
      that is under hynotic control from your corrupt officials…

    35. richard on May 8th, 2008 9:01 am

      One thing seems certain … at least one family on Aruba has no confidence whatever in the ability of Aruba to solve the case of someone missing … in Aruba.

      And a corollary: It doesn’t seem like any other Arubans give a damn about this family’s plight. But that shouldn’t surprise us, should it?

    36. Miss Katie on May 8th, 2008 9:05 am

      my biggest concern brie:

      where will this money come from to search for this young man.

      do they expect a donation?
      or will aruba pay for it
      if so that is totaly

      WRONG AND IT SUCKS!!!

    37. Miss-Underestimated on May 8th, 2008 9:22 am

      Richard

      But isn’t it a testimony to Tim, that the family Jose has such confidence in Tim that they contacted him?

      I bet ALE is fuming that the family even contacted Tim.

      Go Tim.

    38. Miss Katie on May 8th, 2008 9:31 am

      Richard
      you have a point there
      aruba oviously isnt willing to help find this young man. and if they did it was as helpful as they were in finding natalee..
      so therefore the family out of desperation sought the help of others
      possibly they seen the kindness of tim and his efforts…
      there are alot of difference of opinion here… and that is what makes us all unique..
      we all agree to disagree..
      which is our god given right…
      it remains to be seen how this all plays out….

    39. LilPuma on May 8th, 2008 9:58 am

      Maybe Tim Miller could help them by getting some good citizens from the ABC islands together and teaching them how to organize a search and get a Caribbean Search team together to help with cases like Amy, Bud, Natalee, Joel, Jose and any others. You know, the teach a man to fish theory. They may not have the number of missing persons the U.S. has, but wouldn’t it be great if there was a private organization in the region that would help locals and tourists in need.

    40. minnesota dad on May 8th, 2008 10:01 am

      Is it possible that Jose ran off with a girlfriend because he was pregnant with his stepdads kid? I heard that Paulus was sent a letter from Jose outlining that Jose was going to have a kid and that he wanted to get away.

      Is it possible that Jose deserved it…because he got into a car with three boys?

      Is it possible that this is all just an insurance scam and Jose is right now basking in Cancun waiting for a check?

      Has Jose been spotted in Canada outside of Toronto?

      Is it possible that Jose’s drink was spiked at Carlos and Charlies?

      Is it possible that Jose wanted to go see sharks?

      I want to see the AHATA P.R crisis team get going on this one and see what kind of great stories they can come up with to divert attention and save tourism. They admitted they were doing this all along with the Holloways….now they need to kick in on behalf of Jose!

      MD

    41. Sasha on May 8th, 2008 11:33 am

      Tromp is a very common last name in Aruba. Even more common than “Smith” in the U.S. Every other person on the island has a last name of Tromp or Croes. SO, I dont think he is related to that interrogator.

      As some of you said above, life has no value in Aruba and the police force will not waste their time looking for a missing person. They are too busy doing NOTHING. I have seen this young man’s missing brochures in many places on the island, but really never heard anything more about it. So, that’s why I think the family asked Tim Miller for help. Otherwise, this case has pretty much been a forgotten case on the island. So sad. As for Tim Miller, I think he will help anyone regardless of Nationality. But again he wont have any cooperation from the government and the police force. So sad.

    42. bro on May 8th, 2008 12:37 pm

      Okay #33 Nevermind the fork tongue..lets speak english and lets take a look in your backyard..Dit your not corrupt officials…lets say the FBI… found the following missing girls in your backyard…Stephanie Condon in Oregon, Kristin Smart, California, Suzanne Lyall, New York, Kiplin Davis, Utah, Kaelin Glazier, Oregon, Rachel Cooke, Texas, Keberly Ramier, Alabama. Something happened with those girls, they are still missing, famelies are in pain. Not even the FBI can find them, but I think that they are still trying!!! Is There a boycot in those states? Are those states unsafe? I don’t think so..But I know… you don’t care!!!!!

    43. Vicki on May 8th, 2008 1:03 pm

      #-42- BRO, knock knock- whos there airhead…airhead who? Its airhead from Lieruba….gosh, and the beat goes on….Can someone please pick the needle up off of the record…it keeps SKIPING…..HAT TIP TO AYFIT…
      Its so sad to have to keep repeating ourselves. BRO, do everyone a favor and just go drink the KOOLAID….
      KUDOS TO TIM, IF LIERUBA ALLOWS HIM WORK PERMITS…

    44. brie. on May 8th, 2008 1:12 pm

      #36…Miss Katie…I don’t think Aruba would help fund anything…besides that they don’t want us there searching….we don’t know anything about this family nor the circumstances and facts surrounding their son….I would be very worried about Tim’s safety…the last land search he was accused of destroying the turtle eggs, which was probably done by all the dune buddy’s and not Tim….they do not want us searching around…something seems really wrong about this…Tim and the Persistence were in Aruba after their son went missing…and we were there for a long time, why didn’t they ask for help then…

    45. Miss-Underestimated on May 8th, 2008 1:25 pm

      Md, the ALE of course will blame it on Jose.
      I imagine Jose’s family got the same answers Beth got. A bit fat nothing. That is more than likely why the family contacted Tim Miller.

      A pity, Aruba willnot even help it’s own. What a slap in the face to Aruba. An Aruban family contacted TIM MILLER to help find their son.

    46. LilPuma on May 8th, 2008 1:57 pm

      FWIW, I’ve read more than once on this site today about crime in the U.S. So I googled. These numbers are put together by the United Nations and they’re 8 years old. Couldn’t find anything more recent. The U.S. is 24, Netherlands 51. Interesting to see who’s above the U.S. If you want to travel by crime rate, you’ll want to go to Saudi Arabia. Unless you’re an American or a woman or a Christian, in which case Switzerland might be a good choice. Worth noting is what is printed at the bottom of the chart:

      DEFINITION: Total recorded intentional homicides, completed. Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. Per capita figures expressed per 1,000 population.

      SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 – 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)

      http://tinyurl.com/3yw5hq

    47. Maggie on May 8th, 2008 2:59 pm

      It is true, they have a total lack of disregard or respect for human life. No victim or family should have to go through what Natalee and her family have endured for 3 years. Aruban authorities blame the victims instead of the criminals. Put the victims no matter what they look like on the front page. It would be interesting to really hear what people in prison are doing time for there and how many were possibly doing time like the guards. Look what all the people involved in Natalee’s case were engaged in,, none doing time for anything.

      They have never had any intention of solving Natalee’s case.. IF they did, they would’nt have sent out so many paid liars. Liars do not lead to the truth.

      Tim Miller works from the heart. If there is any possible way for him to help.. He will be there. Mr. Trompe’s family is living the nightmare none of us hope we never have to.

      LOok for comments of he was only “ONE PERSON” and “THAT MAN” more crimes in the USA,blah blah.

      Bro you clicked on the Natalee Holloway site to complain she is getting attention? Were you paying attention the past 3 years you would know this is about the total lack of disregard and respect for Natalee Holloway’s life shown by authorities and the injustice done to her and her family.

      Once again Carpe.. you made me laugh.. Anita partying lol..

    48. brie. on May 8th, 2008 3:07 pm

      If Jose worked for the KIA that could be the reason why he is missing and the ALE probably knows what happened…..just like they knew about Natalee…and like someone said the ALE is no doubt fuming with the phone call made to Tim…..he is good man and would not allow a persons nationality to interfer….however I would be greatly concerned about his safety and the family also needs to be careful….there are bad things that happen over there….

      Remember when Tim passed out the plastic water bottles for Natalee, Aruba got mad about that!!!!

    49. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 3:33 pm

      Well, hes 30 years old so hes not a child but hes someones son, so i say God Bless you Tim, and maybe he will hear somehing or see something related to Nat at the same time……

    50. brie. on May 8th, 2008 3:42 pm

      I wonder if Jose is related to Lieutenant Roy Tromp, he was the initial lead investigator involved in Natalee’s case….

    51. Bearlyhere on May 8th, 2008 3:45 pm

      Yo bro, #42

      The answer to your questions is in your post. You are a smart dude.

      >>bro said: Something happened with those girls, they are still missing, famelies are in pain. Not even the FBI can find them, but I think that they are still trying!!!”<>bro said: Is There a boycot in those states? Are those states unsafe? I don’t think so..But I know… you don’t care!!!!!<<

      Of course we care, have you just landed here from Outer Space?

      The difference is we have not stopped looking. We are not blaming the victims. There are people right here on SM who do research, walk with Tim Miller, and donate to help find the missing.

      Now it has happened to one of your own. Did you think you were immune? What do you think we have been telling you?

      Who will be the next victim? Will it be you? Your child? You need to stop this and you have the power to do it.

      Who has Jose’s family asked for help? (hint: Texas and Tim Miller are from this country). Why do you think that is?

      We are on the same side. The elite on Aruba do not want you to know that. They filter information coming to the island. They cater to a perp who is obviously behaviorally impaired and give him their blessing to continue.

      Throwing someone in the ocean because they become unresponsive is not right. It’s just not.

      Working people of Aruba, this is your island. Run into the streets and say you are not going to take it any more. You are in charge. If you stop working, the island stops. Take your lips off the butts of the elite. You are much better than that.

      Get the dirt off your island. Don’t let anyone think for you, think for yourselves. You know what to do.

    52. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 4:35 pm

      re the Shango and Simion post, what does book “The Return of Dr Nikols”have to do with it?

    53. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 4:39 pm

      Im going south a week from today, Im taking Daves book with me to read….anyone want to go with me?

    54. Jerry from Ohio on May 8th, 2008 4:39 pm

      Is it really possible that someone or group in aruba would really want Tim’s org just to blow a lot of $$ on this search ? or could they possibly plan to harm Tim or have him arrested and then make the U.S. spend more $$ there to defend him ?? I don’t know but it is something to think about

    55. LilPuma on May 8th, 2008 5:10 pm

      51. Bearlyhere: Standing ovation for that post. Especially the part where you say we’re on the same side and there are those in Aruba who don’t want you to know that.

    56. SS on May 8th, 2008 5:18 pm

      Would it be wonderful if TES found Natalee while searching for Jose Tromp!

    57. Observer on May 8th, 2008 5:22 pm

      What a great ending it would be if Natalee and Jose Tromp were both found by TES. For such a small island they sure do have way too many people that dissapeared without a trace.

    58. Helen Back on May 8th, 2008 5:22 pm

      #24 Thanks, Red. Well said. I’ve been wondering about this young man since we learned he was missing. My thoughts are certainly with his family and friends.

      #27 Guajiri, I was not aware that Jose worked at KIA. Obviously you think there is the possibility of a connection here, and I must say the timing is very interesting. Can you tell us more about Jose or his position at KIA?

    59. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 8:01 pm

      alot of you use iNITIALS like KIA TES.. ALOT OF US NEW PEOPLE HERE DONT KNOW WHAT THIS IT MEANS AND WHO IT IS

      _________________________
      SM: KIA is the prison in Aruba. TES = Texas Equusearch (klaasend)

    60. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 8:02 pm

      GETS FRUSTRATING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU MEAN

    61. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 8:02 pm

      HELP BRIE
      INTERPET FOR ME

    62. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 8:13 pm

      one

    63. brie. on May 8th, 2008 8:13 pm

      I don’t really know what kind of a position this would put Tim in, we know how Aruba doesn’t want us over there searching, Dompig wouldn’t make the phone call so he could get the equipment needed for the water search for Natalee, ran off our FBI, Beth was protested against and ran off, they took Greta’s cameras when she got off the plane, got angry over the turtle nests and the water bottles, we probably even got blamed for the Persistence being there and having an effect on tourism….if Tim goes they might try to blame him for something he didn’t do and put him in jail….and there would be no one to help him….or disappear

    64. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 8:16 pm

      misskatie, do you know my email address?

    65. richard on May 8th, 2008 8:39 pm

      Also worth noting: the family of this young man apparently hasn’t gone to deVries or Patrick.

      Once again, when there’s trouble in the corrupt regions of the world … they turn to Uncle Sam.
      Or, at least, his representative who has a reputation for integrity, diligence, and performance.

      As I said above, an early investigator for the Holloway Twitty family, TJ Ward, was threatened by Aruba for searching for Natalee without having a local license to do so.

      Could Tim Miller face the same danger? If not, why not … unless what matters to Aruba is how high-profile the case is?

      What efforts have been made by Aruban law enforcement in this case? If none … that should be publicized on the island.

    66. richard on May 8th, 2008 8:47 pm

      Don’t worry, folks … ALE will let this case go on a few more months, and then will tell the family that Aruba doesn’t have any jurisdiction over it anyway … if they’re not happy with the lack of results, they should go talk to the Dutch.

      Karin Janssen is in the Netherlands anyway. How convenient.

    67. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 8:49 pm

      Maybe, theres nothing sinister about it, maybe (and please dont yell at me) the guy is really missing and Aruba (wanting to make the island a more pleasing place for the tourist industry) is putting this out front this time so it will look better on them…..

    68. brie. on May 8th, 2008 9:04 pm

      I wonder if Jose was harmed by a prison escapee or maybe by someone who got released and didn’t like something that happened in prison….I wish we had more information on Jose…

    69. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 9:32 pm

      brie, why would you say you wonder if Jose was harmed?

    70. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 9:52 pm

      Or maybe its even more sinister than we think, maybe there is no Jose missing and they (whos they) just want to get Tim back over there….

    71. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:13 pm

      no always1 i surely dont but if you wish to get mine
      moderator klaasend please give it to always1

    72. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:13 pm

      always1
      what were you trying to say you just typed

      1

      lol

    73. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:15 pm

      always1
      im not speaking for brie
      but maybe he is presumed harmed
      usualy thats what happends in aruba
      why else would his family want to look for him

    74. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:16 pm

      lol always1
      why would anyone want to yell at you
      we are all unique in our own ways and therefore we think differently..
      not to worry

    75. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:19 pm

      thanks klaasend now I know
      and welcome back hope you are feeling better…

    76. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:19 pm

      always1

      when are you going on your trip?

    77. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 10:26 pm

      misskatie, you didnt respond

    78. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:26 pm

      always1
      I would never post my email in here.. Richard a while back cautioned me and he was right.. so I give klaasend permission to give it to you or however he does it…
      Besides ester may put a hit on me lol just kiddinggggggggggggg….than you guys would have to put yur money together for equasearch to look for me lol!!!

      I will brie in charge there … what ya think brie… ya look for me if ester kidnaps me…lol

    79. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:28 pm

      meant to say I will put brie
      in charge
      she will kick arse!!lol

      huh brie…

    80. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:28 pm

      brie
      I know you would have my back..

    81. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:32 pm

      mrs red
      how right you are
      aruba has no heart and they dont care about their own
      their interest is the money they make by looking the other way …. they are cold hearted people
      not everyone…. but those in power… are to power happy happy

      its ok for a man to wear the pants
      but they wear em to tight till you can see belly button…

    82. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 10:40 pm

      Misskatie, I just wanted to talk to you offrecord….I will find a way to do that…

      ______________________
      SM: I just emailed you MissKatie’s email address (klaasend)

    83. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:46 pm

      I guess I cant sleep !!!
      here I sit all alone.. lost in my thoughts

      how I wished that someone would at least!!! even IF anonomously……….
      would tell her parents!!! where her remains are by her you all know I mean natalee…

      by now unless there was blunt force trauma … there would be nothing left to indicate how she died…

      there has been …
      alot of speculations… and many of you that have researched this have come pretty close to how it happened.. many even speculate where her remains are… at this point I am at a loss as to where I think she is….aside from heaven that is!!!

      I just know that her remains need to be home !!!and not on a hostile island………..infested with evil…

      I wonder what is the life expectency of judges …. and prosecutors..etc..and all other corrupt officials…

      I guess what I am trying to say is… is it possible they die early ….because of… all the wrong and corrupt things they do??? is it possible that… their hearts… fail them… how can someone evil have a long life???

      I dont get much time to research but I truly enjoy reading everyone elses input.. so many different opinions… alot of good people here .. sincerely caring.. about justice…wished we would hear something soon…

      god bless beth dave

      R.I.P NATALEE :)

    84. always 1 on May 8th, 2008 10:48 pm

      Thank you Klassend

    85. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:48 pm

      always1
      yes however you wish

      thanks klaasend I guess I have something from you always1
      Ill check now

    86. misskatie on May 8th, 2008 10:58 pm

      always1
      I think you fell asleep
      dont let your head hit the keyboard!!

      you will have the alphabet tatoeed to your forehead……..

      alright.. good night everyone…
      going to the mail box…

    87. A New Girl on May 9th, 2008 3:32 am

      #12- Minnesota Dad- LOL I didn’t know about the endangered Turtle Nests.

      You are right—WHAT A JOKE !

      I have been reminded by a J4N Activist in the Natalee Holloway case that although it appears we may not be getting Justice For Natalee at the moment…we must remain focused and committed to our cause…Endangered Turtle Nest MY ASS !!!!!!

      Aruba Sucks!

      ONE CRAPPY

      UNSAFE

      CORRUPT

      DRUG-TRAFFICKING

      ISLAND !!!!!

      -J4N

      ** McCain ’08 **

    88. A New Girl on May 9th, 2008 3:37 am

      Welcome, Mrs. Red.

      If you are, in fact, married to SM’s Red–compliments on your husband-selection skills. lol

      I love the way he writes and I look forward to reading his articles whenever I can. Quite enjoyable and informative about many causes and issues I care about…always makes me laugh….Is he really that funny at home??

      =) JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

      ** McCain ’08 **

      A New Girl from Boston

    89. SUPER DAVE on May 9th, 2008 6:33 am

      first place i would look ? the sloot property of course.

    90. brie. on May 9th, 2008 8:40 am

      #79..Misskatie…yes I would be searching for you 24/7…

    91. always 1 on May 9th, 2008 9:38 am

      Crossbow, was that message for me?

    92. brie. on May 9th, 2008 10:55 am

      Out there looking but I cannot find an article anywhere on Jose….I find that strange….did the picture we see above come from a Jamican newspaper…it looks like the word Jamica at the bottle of picture above….

    93. always 1 on May 9th, 2008 11:23 am

      why did CLW refer to the 90/10 law?

    94. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 11:40 am

      thank you brie
      i knew you would……:)

    95. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 11:41 am

      FOOD MORNING ALWAYS1
      GOOD MORNING MONKEYS

      THE BOYCOTT CONTINUES..

    96. brie. on May 9th, 2008 11:42 am

      Oh never mind about the Jamican newspaper, I guess that says Jama n, whatever that means….looks like in Diario’s pictures a lot of the locals are searching…

    97. brie. on May 9th, 2008 11:53 am

      If there are any Arubans out there could you give us information on Jose, please and thanks!!!!!

      I wonder if Jose went missing from his house, it says he was wearing black slippers…not shoes or sandals…

    98. always 1 on May 9th, 2008 11:56 am

      CapsLockWizard, if you are not who they (whos they) think you are, did you write “life is more or less a game of snakes and ladders”?

    99. Don on May 9th, 2008 12:27 pm

      Jose is really missing, your heartless and biased comments here are not helping. You know nothing, yet you act is if you know everything.

    100. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 1:32 pm

      handing ..don.. a cork
      to put in his mouth

    101. Lobham on May 9th, 2008 1:36 pm

      Well said, Don. I am proud to be a Scared Monkey, but I’m ashamed of the remarks of so many people here.

      It’s sick to watch some of these people seem to enjoy the fact that anyone from Aruba is experiencing pain.

      It’s sick. Damned sick.

      And don’t come back with “what’s sick is what happened to Natalie, blah blah blah blah”. I am NOT from Aruba (actually North Carolina born and raised). Every time I call out someone for going wacko, I get accused of being from Aruba. I didn’t even know where aruba was until I found this site while doing a google search!

    102. brie. on May 9th, 2008 2:01 pm

      Don, what is heartless is the way your gov’t and Ale treated Natalee’s family, 3 yrs later and Joran and the Kalpoes walk freely…last seen with her and never returned her to hotel, that is kidnapping, Joran said she was in an out of consciousness but yet he had sex with her anyway, that is rape, never summoned help for her when she was having seizures, dumped her in ocean and didn’t know if she was alive or dead, he admits to all of this but never prosecuted….that is heartless…

      We have asked for information concerning Jose, no one wants to hear about a missing person, it’s horrible and yes we feel bad for the family, we saw what Beth went through, the pain had to be unbearable….

    103. Maggie on May 9th, 2008 2:39 pm

      Don you aren’t biased? If wanting the long overdue justice denied Natalee and her family by Aruban authorities makes one bias, then I guess we are. It starts out with why was Straten handling this case, when he worked with Paulus for years and was a friend of the family? Why was a narcotics cop(and I use that term loosely describing him) handling Natalee’s case? Why after Straten was taken off the case and told not to have anything to do with it, seen going in meeting with Dompig about it? Why was Dompig handling this case when he is related to the Kalpoes and Boeti, not to mention his son is friends with Joran? Why was Arlene Shippers, paid Aruban spokesman seen lying on tv more than once, given access to police files and sent to the USA to brief people about what was going on in the case, when her cousin Guido was named a suspect and was a friend of Joran’s? How about the Judge who is a friend of Paulus’s that changed the search warrant? How about arresting 2 black security guards, who didn’t know Natalee, for kidnapping and murder after the tape showed Natalee didn’t return ? Makes one wonder what they all have on each other.

      We are so heartless here, that an Aruban family has asked people from the USA to try to find their missing loved one in Aruba.

    104. brie. on May 9th, 2008 3:03 pm

      #100….Misskatie, make it a big one!!!

    105. brie. on May 9th, 2008 3:19 pm

      #101….what is sick..damned sick is you and don’t say Natalee blah blah blah blah….why do you think we are here….people have worked very hard and have shown a lot of support for Natalee….if you are an American you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that….all we want is justice served and to be able to find Natalee…so who’s wacko!!!!

    106. brie. on May 9th, 2008 4:10 pm

      #103….nice post Maggie!!! Sometimes there are those that like to shot us down…but we come right back…

    107. brie. on May 9th, 2008 5:06 pm

      #101….you want to blame anyone for experiencing pain, blame Joran….he caused it all…and he’ll laugh right in your face….Aruba needed to take control and do something about him…he is the reason for any destruction done to the island…he could care less about Aruba or any of the people there….let alone an American…!!!!

    108. richard on May 9th, 2008 5:16 pm

      Those who think that this site is populated by sick people have an easy option to absolve their consciences … they can stop reading here.

    109. brie. on May 9th, 2008 5:42 pm

      #108..Richard….Ditto!!!

    110. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 7:58 pm

      I triple ditto that!!! #108 Richard

    111. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 8:00 pm

      joran is a mental … self centered spoiled murderer… and his parents are to blame.. he has no regard for them or anyone in aruba….I can almost bet he has told his parents to f…off

    112. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 8:02 pm

      brie

      lmao
      how bout a cork with super glue on the other end.. make it a double sided cork lmao so we can hook ester to the other end..

    113. meshuggener on May 9th, 2008 8:39 pm

      #93 – Always 1 — I’d like to know that also!

    114. brie. on May 9th, 2008 9:08 pm

      #112….Misskatie….works for me…make sure you use Gorilla Glue…..really tough stuff…hope for something permanent…!!!!

    115. always 1 on May 9th, 2008 9:53 pm

      meshuggener, I am working on that, will get back to you…

    116. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 10:09 pm

      lmao gorilla glue
      brie that will work and pour super glue to their lips before we add the gorilla glue…
      any ways justice for natalee
      boycott boycottttttttttt

    117. A New Girl on May 9th, 2008 10:15 pm

      @#101- Lobham….

      I have posted numerous times about my love for the Island of Aruba and my fond memories there since I honeymooned one year prior to the NH crime.

      I do not believe that everyone there is held accountable, and most of the locals are decent people which work hard to support the tourists.

      Please don’t lump every “Monkey” into the same category ( I do realize you said “some”).

      With that being said-the atrocity of this crime has had such an effect on so many people and really, what is disheartening about it is that IT DIDN’T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY !! It still doesn’t, but it’s been so long now I truly wonder if the WHOLE truth will ever come out. Doubt it.

      I for one will NEVER go back to Aruba again UNTIL the proper justice is served.

      -J4N

      **** McCain ’08 ***

    118. misskatie on May 9th, 2008 10:18 pm

      where is everyone…

    119. brie. on May 9th, 2008 11:13 pm

      It’s not about the locals it’s about the corruption in the gov’t and the ALE, although support from the locals would of been more than helpful…the crime there has been going on for years….but little did we know until the disappearance of Natalee…!!!! Drug dealers are all over that island and have been for a long time….!!!! But some people like the association….!!!

    120. meshuggener on May 9th, 2008 11:52 pm

      Thanks, Always. Did I read you were heading south? Where are you traveling to? If you fly over Atlanta give us a grand monkey wave!

    121. Patti on May 10th, 2008 12:32 am

      I think Tim should go.

      This young man may be related to the Tromp that blew the whistle on Van der Sloot. He wouldn’t be the first one to be found dead or disappeared under unusual circumstances.

      In my honest opinion, I think Paulus has been trafficking people in and out of Aruba and the Netherlands for years. He is very powerful among the organized crime circuit in Aruba. He’s no judge, he was a clerk in the immigration department and the Dutch have openly stated that the immigration records do not match the population. Why do you think he was checking out Natalee at the casino that night, and, why do you think she went missing, hours later, in the company of his son?

      Hell, his house looks like a concentration camp! Is it possible that he was trafficking girls for, both, the prostitution ring as well as for the Arawak Indian? I, honestly, don’t think that it would make much difference to him one way or the other. He is a heartless piece of shit that doesn’t even care about his own family. His son would go to prison for him…. but would he do the same, for his son?

      Not!

      Him and his little compound
      need to be blown off the map!

      .

      KaBOOOOOOOOM!

      .

      Not such a hard thing to do.

      .

      Justice for Natalee!

    122. brie. on May 10th, 2008 8:14 am

      Thanks funny Patti, the house looks a concentration camp. I remember seeing the picture taken in their living room with Joe Tacapino, a laundry basket in the living room, the clock was crooked hanging on the wall, a tripod with a camera in the background, Paulus’s zipper was down, I don’t know who took the picture but it managed to get to us… I guess they don’t care about how things look….you would of thought whoever took that picture they would of said something to Paulus about his zipper…maybe it was meant to be down….one of his sick messages….who knows!!! Maybe Joran took the picture….!!!!

    123. always 1 on May 10th, 2008 8:54 am

      Meshuggener, I am heading to the ranch to see my family…the 90/10 reference points to a computer analyst who posts on the web also….the person the monkeys are referring to knows alot about computers but he makes a lot of spelling mistakes..but is it mistakes or is it his accent? I dont know….

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    125. misskatie on May 10th, 2008 12:53 pm

      patti

      pow
      pow
      pow
      just shot sloot!!! his wife and the demented son

      patti
      I do agree that daddy sloot is powerful ………..
      the human trafficking thingie:
      ABSOLUTELY

      I have always had the feeling that e was stalking natalee.. I believe joran worked for him… getting all these girls…
      anddddd I believe that amy bradley was one of his trafficking victims.. as bazaar as it seems..
      what puzzles me is why was he sweatting when he spoke to beth and greta!!

      isnt he used to this by now…..

      hope someday his ring busts wide open and he goes down for not only natalees death but many others gone missing…
      and I have always believed that he is connected to organized crime the mob
      I was critiqued for saying that but now it seems to be your thoughts too
      :)

    126. misskatie on May 10th, 2008 12:55 pm

      ALWAYS1

      HAVE FUN… AT THE RANCH…………:)

    127. misskatie on May 10th, 2008 12:56 pm

      :)

      :)

    128. misskatie on May 10th, 2008 12:58 pm

      klaasend can you find the picture that brie is referring to please
      thanks katie

      :)

    129. Mary, UK on May 10th, 2008 2:28 pm

      I AM SO ANGRY ABOUT THIS TIM SHOULD NEVER HAVE AGGREED TO DO THIS SEARCH, IT IS AN OUTRAGE AND A KICK IN THE TEETH TO EVERYONE WHO HAS FOLLOWED NATALEES CASE, where are the funds coming from? if it is from donations from the US then the decision is atrocious, THIS HAS REALLY SPOILED MY DAY!!!! it is the most stupid decision ever and makes Americans look fools!!!!

    130. brie. on May 10th, 2008 3:41 pm

      #128…Misskatie….I’m looking for you…I can’t remember the headline, only the picture….may take me a while…

    131. brie. on May 10th, 2008 3:51 pm

      #128…Misskatie…I believe the picture was taken when Joran was in jail either the 2nd or 3rd time….I’ll find it…

    132. misskatie on May 10th, 2008 5:06 pm

      OK BRIE
      IM ANXIOUS TO SEE IT THE BACKGROUND
      BRIE THOSE PEOPLE ARE TOTAL NUTS DERANGED… LOL EVEN THINGS ON THEIR WALLS ARE LOPSIDED LIKE THEIR LIFE..

      THANK U BRIE IM HERE NOW
      WENT FER A WALK….

    133. Patti on May 10th, 2008 7:54 pm

      Miss Katie:

      I think the reason Sloot sweated was the same reason anyone else would… he was under the spot light. How many times do the Aruban officials even bother to file a missing person report? Isn’t it true that they are of the opinion that anyone that has gone missing, has gone on vacation? They don’t investigate ANY of the missing person reports… not even their own. I’m almost possitive that Paulus had never seen anything like it… over ‘just one girl’ (a very special girl) and has never had to handle any pressure from ALE, the police or anyone else. That’s why the women were jealous of Natalee. None of their girls got that kind of publicity… which is a sad statement all by itself.

      I think its a kick that Tim Miller is the only person this young man’s family thought of to call for help. While many of us think that all the people of Aruba are the same… I think there are, atleast, one or two that can see past our anger, our weird sense of humor; and see that we are genuinely concerned and willing to help in any way we can to assist the family find Natalee. And when you think about Tim Miller, that generous empathy is 100 fold… all inclusive. He knows what it’s like to have a missing child and is wise enough to know the feeling is the same, no matter what your nationality.

      I disagree that it makes us look like fools. It makes us look, just as we act, humane.

      .

      Boycott, Aruba!

      .

      This is good.

    134. always 1 on May 10th, 2008 8:36 pm

      nice post pattie!

    135. misskatie on May 10th, 2008 9:38 pm

      PATTI
      truly well said… bless tim for his empathy towards others.. he is an example to many…..who knows this may result in someone coming foward to give info about what they know about what happened to natalee….

      I certainly hope so…
      I just fear for his safety…
      god keep him safe…

    136. meshuggener on May 10th, 2008 10:33 pm

      #123 – Many thanks Always 1. I sure was lost in that conversation and now it all makes sense!

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