RSSScared Monkey’s Welcomes Bill O’Reilly & Geraldo Rivera to the Fold as they Finally Embrace the Aruba Boycott and Date Rape in Natalee Holloway Disappearance
Greta and Bill finally see the Scared Monkeys light …
First it was Greta Van Susteren who came back on board with the right 
minded logic and thinking of Scared Monkeys and now its Bill O’Reilly … Welcome aboard. Its about time that Bill O’Reilly has decided that he will be looking out for Natalee Holloway.
After all this time Fox New’s Bill O’Reilly finally gets on board with Scared Monkeys, the boycott of Aruba in the mishandling and corruption, and the date rape theory in the case of missing Natalee Holloway. After watching The Factor last night with Bill O’Reilly and Geraldo Rivera one would think that Bill O’Reilly had been reading Scared Monkeys.
So if she supposedly died in your arms, why didn’t you help her? What reason would there ever be for you to feel the need to dispose of a body if a crime was not committed against her? The answer, because there was one committed. No one’s first reaction is to dispose of a body unless they have something to hide like the use of date rape drugs, a sexual assault and further crimes against Natalee Holloway.
Bill O’Reilly initially supported a boycott of Aruba and then backed off the idea 
as it would unfairly hurt the people of Aruba. Last night on the FACTOR, that all changed as Bill O’Reilly once again supported that no one go to Aruba until justice is served against Joran Van der Sloot.
I’m not going to Aruba until they do. I hope everyone around the world watching me says no to Aruba until the man gets in and gets on trial … Charge him, let the jury decide or no more Aruba and every decent person should feel the way that we do.
Bill O’Reilly seems to have come on board with Scared Monkeys with another key point, the use of a date rape drug on Natalee Holloway. O’Reilly has reversed his original comments that Natalee Holloway was on cocaine.
Natalee Holloway, the 18 year-old woman who disappeared two years ago in Aruba, died from cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of cocaine. According to top law enforcement officials, Natalee ingested the cocaine with Joran van der Sloot and one of the Kalpoe brothers. Her body was then disposed of in the ocean. (O’Reilly Factor: July 19, 2007)
(At first the media was inclined to believe him as they obviously trusted a not so trustworthy source)
Bill O’Reilly last night for the first time took a page from Scared Monkeys and adamantly promoted the idea that Joran Van der Sloot gave Natalee Holloway a date rape drug and that the reason why he disposed of the body was that Joran did not want an autopsy to find any signs of drugs, sexual assault. Geraldo Rivera even brings up the notion of physical violence committed against Natalee.
You know me, I don’t speculate okay, but I’ll tell you right now why he didn’t call the authorities or the EMS if the woman had a seizure and died, because he raped her, because they slipped some date rate drug inside and any kind of an autopsy would have seen the date rape drug, this guy had history of doing this kind of stuff, we know he prowled the casinos.
You’ve been down there Geraldo, you know what goes on there. They target the tourists, they take the tipsy girls and they do this and any kind of an autopsy, any kind of a medical examination would have shown what these guys did to Natalee Holloway
The O’Reilly FACTOR: February 15, 2008 (full transcript below)
Bill O’Reilly: As you many know, the villain Joran van der Sloot, who we believe was directly involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway almost 2 years ago, was caught on an undercover tape saying the woman died in his presence and the body was thrown into the ocean.
Now, some believe the Aruban authorities have been covering up for van der Sloot. Joining us now from our New York studio, Geraldo Rivera. Do you believe that?
Geraldo: If don’t know if there’s cover up per se, but there certainly is no desire it seems to have this case aggressively pursued. You have, there’s rage, let me start that way Bill, there is real rage in Aruba, I’ve been on the phone with them all day today about the Appellate Court’s decision to support to lower Court Judge saying you can’t arrest him.
The reason the rage is so virulent is that they’re using as their rationale, that Joran van der Sloot, having told so many different stories, is now un-trustworthy when he confesses like he’s doing on the tape that’s being shown right now.
In other words, at first he says he and and the Kalpoe brothers drive her back to the Holiday Inn where they see a black, adult security guard making the moves toward her. Then he says the Kalpoe brothers did it, you know this guy has changed his story so often that the Judge now says he’s unreliable and you can’t trust his confession.
Bill O’Reilly: There’s no question the guy’s a pathological liar and a sociopath. You have to know that if you follow the case, but here’s the deal. I’ve watched this tape now, four or five times, the undercover tape by the Dutch journalist; there’s no way this guy’s making this stuff up; there’s no way this van der Sloot is making this stuff up.
Geraldo: That is why the local authorities, not the local authorities but certainly the local press and the people in the tourist business, because remember Aruba’s tourist trade is down between 12% and 18% since Natalee Holloway disappeared in 2005 so it’s having a real world impact on the Aruban people. Their rage is at the timidity of the judiciary, but the trouble is they have a tradition that once they arrest someone and release them, that the bar for evidence gets higher and higher.
Bill O’Reilly: Here’s what they could do and should do, just go in with it in front of a jury, let the jury have it and then if he walks, he walks. Let the folks decide and here’s the other wrinkle; this guy’s father is a big shot, this guy’s father has juice on that island, this guy van der Sloot was treated from the jump Geraldo, you know that.
Geraldo: Clearly, I believe that the father is the person that he called. Paulus van der Sloot is the person he called but let’s dissect what Joran tells Patrick.
If indeed the death of Natalee Holloway was an “accident” then the person you would call would be your dad, the Judge. It is natural if the death was an accident and not a murder that you’d call your dad and then he tells the cops later that Deepak and Satish did it. Deepak and Satish tell him in the back seat of the car and it’s on tape that ‘if they find that girl, you’re going to get 15 years’
Why didn’t they call the authorities if it was an accidental death and how could he sleep like a baby unless he knew that her body had been disposed of. To think that he would trust a casual friend with the disposal of dead Natalee Holloway and then go walk home and then sleep like a baby, defies human emotion, it is unconscionable.
Bill O’Reilly: You know me, I don’t speculate okay, but I’ll tell you right now why he didn’t call the authorities or the EMS if the woman had a seizure and died, because he raped her, because they slipped some date rate drug inside and any kind of an autopsy would have seen the date rape drug, this guy had history of doing this kind of stuff, we know he prowled the casinos.
You’ve been down there Geraldo, you know what goes on there. They target the tourists, they take the tipsy girls and they do this and any kind of an autopsy, any kind of a medical examination would have shown what these guys did to Natalee Holloway
Geraldo: And he is a big kid, he’s over 6 feet, he outweighs her 2 to 1. There’s no doubt in my mind not only did he drug her but he also roughed her up, maybe even to the point where he murdered her.
Bill O’Reilly: Okay, now.
Geraldo: But, we need some corroborating evidence because a confession without corroboration is a problem.
Bill O’Reilly: I say charge him and put him on trial and I’m not going to Aruba until they do. I hope everyone around the world watching me says no Aruba until the man gets in and gets on trial. Now, if the jury acquits him, OJ Simpson whatever, fine. Charge him, let the jury decide or no more Aruba and every decent person should feel the way that we do.
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RAPIST.
MURDERER.
It only took them 32 months to finally get a clue what happened to Natalee. All they ever had to do was come on SM,but they continued to talk about the case while knowing nothing. I guess it’s better late then never that the reporters on Fox news finally are starting to get a clue what happened to Natalee.
What O’reilly forgets is that a jury “of peers” would be a bunch of people on the take from AHATA and Paulus.
The definition of “Conflict of Interest” would once again be abused by biased jury selection.
This one needs to be tried in the Netherlands for any hope of a fair trial as the judges in Aruba/Curacao have proven that they are on the take.
MD
Bill at first your source was a credible aruban source , after you saw that did not wash he became a credible fbi source.Bill greta asked if the sloot family was rich because of all the Lawters.Ha Bill why dont yoy follow the money,find out whos paying the bills.
#3
Actually what O’Reilly forgets is they dont have jury trials in Aruba. They are judge trials.
R
So O’Reilly is jumping on the bandwagon, so to speak … even endorses the ‘boycott Aruba’ movement. However, what he DIDN’T do, judging from this excerpt, is to apologize for his earlier remarks about Natalee using drugs.
With the media types, what they say yesterday means nothing at all. I don’t respect any of them. Have the decency to apologize for your earlier remarks, O’Reilly, not just hope that viewers will forget them.
By the way, we’ve been told that they don’t have juries in Aruba. Maybe the news people who pontificate so readily ought to do a little research?
By the way, O’Reilly says that Aruba is full of rage … of whom? Directed at whom? We haven’t heard any stories of outraged protesters, etc.
We heard way back when that Aruba was going all out to look for Natalee … but an AP article showed that the Aruban government’s efforts gave thousands of civil servants an afternoon off … but only a few hundred of them showed up to take part in the search for Natalee.
And the search was at the opposite end of Aruba from where she was last seen.
Is the reputed ‘rage’ aimed at the van der Sloots? At the Aruban court system? At the whole corrupt government?
Or is it frustration that those damned Americans just won’t let the whole thing be forgotten … won’t go to Carlos ‘n’ Charlies and have a few beers, in the words of Dennis Jacobs … and just WILL continue to urge people not to go to Aruba?
Although Joran has once again escaped justice, there are still some very effective things that we can do. We must do our very best to make certain that U.S. citizens do not set foot on the corrupt island of Aruba. We need to focus on a very public boycott that reaches newspapers, the Internet, travel agents, the airlines, and cruise ships. We also need to reach into our pockets and support Texas EquuSearch to make certain that the Persistence has the needed funds to search every inch of the ocean floor that surrounds that miserable island. We need to bring Natalee home.
Go to http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com. Here you will find details about the Natalee Holloway case, a petition to sign, and the addresses of your senators, representatives, and the U.S. Embassy to the Netherlands. We need to flood Capital Hill with emails about Natalee’s travesty of justice. We need to contact local travel agencies, large travel companies, and cruise lines who make regular stops in Oranjestad. Financial support is needed by EquuSearch. The address is Texas EquuSearch Mounted SAR Team, P.O. Box 395, Dickinson, Texas 77539. Indicate that your check is for Natalee Holloway and Persistence. Send an “appropriate” email to everyone you know, detailing the dangers of traveling to the corrupt and dangerous island of Aruba. These emails will multiply exponentially. If each of us does a little, the result will be tremendous.
There are links to Congressional email addresses on http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com. The Scared Monkeys site gets hundreds of hits each night. If each of you will also send some emails it will be a step in the right direction. If nothing else, ask for official travel and safety advisories for tourists destined to Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles.
The names below are a partial list of businesses who are currently thriving on the miserable little island of Aruba. These are names that we all recognize. Perhaps we need to be mindful of where we spend our money here at home, until there is a resolution to Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.
Radio Shack, Heineken, Benetton, Fendi, Gucci, Sears, Servistar, True Value, Cartier, Terminix, Hooters, Tony Rama, Ernst and Young, Nautica, Athlete’s Foot, Red Sail Sports, Hugo Boss, Polo Ralph Lauren, Salvatore Ferragamo, Nike, Mango, Hyatt, Radisson, Marriott, Occidental, Westin, Holiday Inn, and La Quinta.
The following cruiselines currently have scheduled stops on the miserable island of Aruba, during the next six months. During the period of time that US citizens disembark in the port of Oranjestad, they could be subjected to theft, kidnapping, drugging, and murder. The corrupt legal system in Aruba does not protect American citizens. Please do not support these cruiselines until the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is resolved.
AIDA Cruises, Princess, Royal Caribbean, Pulmantur, Holland American, Hapag Lloyd, Majestic, Celebrity, Fred Olsen, Crystal, Cunard, P and O, Club Med, Astor, Dolphin Maritime, Windstar, and Disney.
Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. is the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. You can send an email to him directly from his website at http://biden.senate.gov/contact/ . Senator Biden needs to hear our concerns for US citizens traveling to Aruba. He needs to hear about the corruption, drugs, kidnappings, thefts, and murders on the island of Aruba. He needs to hear our feelings about Joran van der Sloot. We need to ask for travel advisories/restrictions for US citizens traveling to Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles. This is an election year and perhaps Congress will pay attention.
The email address for Aruba Travel (ATA) Public Relations is ata.pr@aruba.com. I think that they need to receive hundreds of emails asking why they are protecting Urine van der Sloot.
ATA’a website is http://www.aruba.com. If you go to the website you will see a section referred to as “experts on Aruba”. Plug in your zipcode and you will get a nice list of all travel agents in your area who represent ATA. They need to receive emails from us asking them to boycott Arub because Aruba is corrupt and not safe for American citizens.
I would like to know exactly where they were searching for Natalee when Deepak and Satish said “if they find that girl you are going to get 15 years . . .” They must have believed that Natalee’s body could have been found. Were they close?
Well he’s turned the corner at least. Needs to do his homework on some more details.
He knows who’s paying Tacopina. Now, Bill, go find the black guys who were arrested for murder, with evidence of it, and this case will be over.
The 3 Dutchmen van der sloot Sr. van der straaten and Janssen
Can anyone tell me if there is a Natalee Hollaway memorial page on Myspace? As I understand it…there are over 220 million pages or members on that site now. This would be a terrific way to spread the word about Aruba and the story of Natalee….and the boycott. 220 million people to reach….free….you cannot buy that kind of advertising….
Just a thought…
The 3 dutchmen are
Van der Sloot SR
Van der Straaten
Gottenbos SR.
SS,
Your link is not working because the period at the end of it is included as part of the link and when one clicks over it (the link), one gets an error. Samething happenend when you posted it in previous articles.
SS,
BTW, I used the link that ou provided
“ATA’a website is http://www.aruba.com. If you go to the website you will see a section referred to as “experts on Aruba”. Plug in your zipcode and you will get a nice list of all travel agents in your area who represent ATA. They need to receive emails from us asking them to boycott Arub because Aruba is corrupt and not safe for American citizens.”
and at the top of the screen on the right I sued “book now” and there is where I found “Find an Aruban Expert” and when it is launched I get an error from there.
J4N
bill,,
what this person wrote is very true !!read on:
What O’reilly forgets is that a jury “of peers” would be a bunch of people on the take from AHATA and Paulus.
The definition of “Conflict of Interest” would once again be abused by biased jury selection.
This one needs to be tried in the Netherlands for any hope of a fair trial as the judges in Aruba/Curacao have proven that they are on the take.
MD
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
track who’s paying jorans lawyer and yes everyone, boycott aruba !!
maria
There were only two Dutchmen: v/d Sloot and Vocking. Vocking is the one that had all the connections to arrange things in Paul’s favor. He’s the one that probably came up with the security guards ploy, he’s the one that obtained a last minute suspension for the order to search the main v/d Sloot house, he’s the one that got the prison connection to smuggle Joran a phone, he was probably the one that gave Joran instructions on how to behave during interrogation, he’s the one that left Aruba quietly and everyone is slowly forgetting his role, as the key player trafficking influence.
There was an Aruban also, Police pokesperson Comemencia. At the initial stage of the investigation, he gave too many the press too many details to justify Paulu’s behaviour and actions, as if he was intentionally trying to steer negative opinions away from the v/d Sloots…very suspicious, since he was the Police Department spokesperson, and not the suspect’s family’s PR representative.
I WISH SHARK HUNTERS WOULD GO TO THE LIGHTHOUSE AND FISH FOR SHARKS, OPEN THEM UP AND SCARE THE M SH*T OUT OF PAULUUS VAN DER SLOOT * ALL INVOLVED !
( UNLESS THEY ALREADY KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH HER !) BUT WE CAN SCARE THEM ANYWAY !!
GOD WORKS IN WONDERFUL WAYS, IMAGINE IF WE FOUND ONE OF NATALEE’S BODY PARTS IN A SHARKS STOMACH ? OH BOY !!
SHARK HUNTERS !! GO FISH !!
I BET IF WE POSTED A REWARD $$$$ THEY’D GO FISH !!
SHARK TOURNAMENT !!
((((I’M NOT TRYING TO BE CRUEL TO NATALESS FAMILY ABOUT A BODY PART, BUT I JUST WANT JORANS A** IN PRISON !!)))I HATE HIS SMART LITTLE GOOK FACE !
NOW I KNOW SOME OF YOU MIGHT THINK THAT SA LONGSHOT, BUT GOD WORKS IN WONDERFUL WAYS !!
ME AGAIN.,,,MARIA
#6 Richard, O’Reilly will never apologize or admit he could have been wrong. When Shawn Hornbeck was first found, O’Reilly made horrible comments about him, to the effect that he believed Shawn stayed with his abductor so long because he enjoyed being able to play video games all day and not go to school. O’Reilly never apologized for those comments. O’Reilly is scum, in my opinion. Although I am glad he is advocating the boycott, I still don’t watch his show, and his current stance doesn’t really change my opinion of him.
Anyone know who Jamie Velasquez (sp?) is?
Does anyone know if Jamie Velasquez knows Joran van der Sloot?
Does anyone know if Jamie Valasquez worked for a beach rental company (banana boat) in Aruba?
Does anyone know if Jamine Valasquez still lives in Aruba?
Does anyone know if Jamie Valasquez has (or had) a boat license in Aruba?
Does anyone know if Jamie has been questioned by the police?
I have news for all of you.
I watch The O’Reilly Factor EVERY night, not once in a while. O’Reilly stated many months ago, I would estimate about 8, that voluntarily he would not travel to Aruba, unless assigned, since he was informed that a judge in Aruba modified the search warrant to exclude certain areas of the Van Der Sloot residence on the spot, before allowing the search to begin. That to me sounds like a boycott on O’Reilly’s part. And don’t try and debate me on this.
I HEARD AND WATCHED HIM SAY IT. Long before Greta got her shite togther.
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Geraldo is right..no way are you gonna call a friend out of the blue and say get rid of this body and don’t call the police? I wouldn’t do that for anyone. Who has friends like that and then you feel so comfortable to go home and sleep.. which I don’t believe he did sleep anyway,,,,,,,, didn’t have enought time sleep much if he went to school.. probably slept at school.. You would call someone you know would get rid of her and not talk..enter the father. He probably has stuff on his father too.. It’s all one big happy sick family imo..
WTG Bill O’Reilly for calling it what it is..
I also don’t believe the Kalpoes are just innocent little saints who don’t know nothing or done anything in this. Why would they go to such extent to make up so many lies? Why was Paulus getting them lawyers? Why did Satish say in his police statement…he asked how’s the girl doing? Why are they cleaning their car predawn, the night Natalee disapppeared?
every american business CEO with ties to Aruba needs a Monkey Pie (whip cream) in their face. we could name the CEO’s here and assign value. also any talk show or game show host who gives away an aruban trip.
who will be the first to Monkey Pie a CEO and film it?
SS – thank you – will definitely go to the websites of merchants I buy from and let them know what I think about their Aruban franchise. Ditto for hotels and cruise lines. #10 – without a doubt Deepak and Satish were in on the ambush of Natalee but don’t know where her remains are. Deepak told Jamie Skeeters that if he knew where the body was he would tell. That was a monumental statement. When he said that of coure he knew she was dead and how she died, what he didn’t know is what PVDS did with her. Joran called two people when Natalee died. The first was Koen – as in what the “s___ did I buy from you!, Look what it’s done!”. The second was his father, who then told the boys to go home and he took over from there. Paulus probably used Koen’s boat since K was already in it up to his drug supplying neck.
I have been off for a while trying to read all the downloaded documentation I have accumulated.
In a nutsheel go here…. If none have
http://arubassilence.bravehost.com/
It is heart warming to see old posters, posting again and all the new ones SM has picked up.
A full blown confession while riding down felony lane and still no arrest! What the f— is up with that??????!!!!!!
Beth- if there was ever any boubt,your efforts have now captured the world’s attention. Yes I said world. Joron you are a dead man walking. I’d like to see your head in a basket.
#15 Lisa
I just tried the link again and it is working. Go to http://www.aruba.com . On the pink bar across the top go to book now, find an aruba expert. When you enter your zipcode you will get a list of ACE travel agents in your area. These travel agents are ATA’s “Aruban experts”. Send them a few emails!!!
To 1906:
I was so pleased to see you posted today. You would be sorely missed!
Bonbini,
Here are a few more businesses that we are familiar with who are prospering on the happy island.
Re/Max, Orbitz, Wyndham, American Express, Harley Davidson, Toyota, MacDonalds, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and Wendys.
#14 Hoepelman
Thanks. I think the period at the end of the sentence has been included in the web address when my replies are sent to this site. Try it without the period at the end.
The more I think about it the more I realize that Joran is caught in a web of lies for one reason, he is protecting the person who came to his aid and that is PVD.
I think that PVD was called upon by Joran either in his own house (most likely) therefore no phone call, and PVD took over from there.
I think that PVD never told Joran where he disposed of Natalee knowing that he might talk. I think his first lie was construed by PVD and the K2′s were warned to go along or possibly be implicated themselves.
PVD is the one with all of the legal expertise and knows how to get around the system. His “no body no crime” was achieved by him either alone or with help. Either way he would know the options for no recovery. I think Anita would go along with whatever she was told, living happily in denial.
The only problem with PVD’s lack of concern for the feelings of others, is he may have dug his own son’s grave in the process.
Your son now may find himself in the constraints of a punishment worse than jail time and far more dangerous. Maybe it’s time you own up and “tell the truth.”
As an act of contrition since the legal system in Aruba just can’t find it themselves to arrest Joran for murder because they oh my, just don’t know which story to believe he’s told is true, should say we believe all of them. Re-arrest the 2 men originally arrested, then release them again with an official letter stating they aren’t suspects, they’ve been cleared so they in turn can sue the government for compensation ala PVDS. Arrest Deepak for rape and murder since Joran was a witness and see what Deepak has to say. Give Deepak the maximum prison sentence for kidnapping, drugging and rape. And oh my, then Deepak turns witness and tells on Joran and Koen and Freddie. So then Freddie and Koen are given the max for possession and distribution of narcotics. Joran is found guilty of kidnapping, rape, murder, underage drinking in a public place and underage gambling. Thus PVDS is found guilty of contributing to the deliquency of a minor, obstruction of justice and corpse abuse.
Now how simple is that?
Do you think that the Georgia authorities would allow Gary Hilton to take little hike on Montanya?
Bill O’Reilly talking about the boycott is great, but let us follow this through one better. Stephen Colbert should put Aruba “On Notice”. Once put On Notice he often allows the accused to come in and defend itself (which they would not do b/c Colbert has an entire team of writers to ensure he never loses an arguement). WIth any luck he will declare Aruba “Dead To Me”.
You should not overwhelm them with emails, but a few well-thought out letters to http://www.colbertnation.com/cn/contact.php might do the trick.
A kiosk at my mall was handing out entry forms for a free Aruba trip if you enter and win the drawing. I looked at the guy and said NO Thank You!!
Finally!! Glad to see Bill O’Rielly come on board……….
To reiterate what everyone on SM has been saying all along since the initial disapperance began to REEK of wrong-doing and foul-play…..there will be absolutely NO MORE ARUBA VISITS FROM US ON THAT ISLAND UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, IF EVER AT ALL!!! This case desperately needs to go to trial. Until Joran AND OTHERS are charged and imprisoned or properly penalized (Daddy Sloot gets disbarred and cannot ever practice law again) ….then…it’s true !!! Every and ANY decent person should feel the way that we do.
I do believe Joran’s real nightmare has truly begun, however. If the little Sporter rears his ugly head out in public anytime soon- Sporter’s going to get hurt very badly. Joran is going to get beaten, killed ………or remain in hiding forever and become a depressed substance abuser with even more serious problems and psychological issues than he currently possesses. The quality of his life will never, ever be the same.
My hunch tells me the reality is: He is going to walk, Folks- even with a trial (if we ever see that happen which is also doubtful)- the most they will give him is 6 months. =( He is going to get off “scott free” and that is really, really dispicable.
We all still want and have wanted the same thing…..
~* ~* ~~ JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ~~* ~~* ~
Whether or not the family & friends of Natalee Holloway and the American or Dutch public will ever see that happen, sadly remains to be seen.
I think they moved the crime scene to the beach,
under direction of Paulus… They had to get it
out of Joran’s apartment.
(all Joran’s furniture was replaced. This is why)
If what I believe Natty
girl is showing me is
correct:
—Here’s what I can see—
> They/he cut her on her left cheek.
> She was hit in her left eye,
…and someone finished her off with 1 single shot, dead center of her forehead, leaving an exit wound out the back of the right side of her head.
That gunshot is why she could not be found,
under any circumstances. This is what J & D mean
by being in deep sh– 15 years.
I absolutely feel in all OF my heart, they will find her with the RV PERSISTENCE.
There was no shaking, I don’t think.
I believe Joran made the shaking up, to get that flaming hemorrhoid dumb a$$ of a father believing it was a simple accident.
IT WAS NO ACCIDENT!
IT WAS RAPE GONE WRONG
THAT QUICKLY ESCALATED
INTO MURDER.
She was brutally attacked & assaulted,
She did not have a chance. She was out numbered.
SLIDES
http://tinyurl.com/35ex7x
GRID SHEETS
http://tinyurl.com/jljbv
-j4n
isn’t there anything higher than that kangaroo appelate court to intervene in this matter. Does anybody in Aruba have the balls to stand up to these criminals. Do they have to wait till their economy is in ruins before they act for justice. If that is what they want so be it. BOYCOTT. what do I need to do to spread the word?
I tried clicking on to some of these boycott sites listed in the postings here, but says no such websites.
A is for the Angel that Natalie was made when
Jvds murdered her
R is for rapist and murderer
U is for urine which sounds like joran
B is for Boycott
A is for abscence of tourist from the dangerous
island of aurba
B.O. hasn’t impressed me since FOX paid off his potential sexual harrassment lawsuit. Snipets of the conversations were released and it was nasty. And at the same time B.O. got his redemption, the “family man” was releasing a childrens book.???
It is very sad imo that anyone cares at all what Bill O’Reilly thinks, particularly in this case. Are your memories so short? He sexually and emotionally abused a woman that had to be around him for work, then denied it when she came forward. He settled out of court for masturbating on the phone with her and making lewd gestures and invitations to her… suggesting he would use using lufta on her privates, etc. All while his wife was pregnant. Yeah, he’s a real star. N O T .
Another thing: while I fully appreciate that the ALE NH investigation was no investigation at all but a cover-up, this is not something the Aruban people could control, anymore than we could stop Bush from being an idiotic, power-drunk fool, ruining our country’s name and whatever reputation it had left, all over the world. I’m not saying a boycott isn’t appropriate — maybe that’s what it will take to stop the corruption there… I’m just saying that an awful lot of people are throwing an awful lot of stones as if our gvmnt is sterling. Take the Aruban corruption and “boys club” then multiply it about a zillion times, and you get the Bush admin. Take NH’s death and it’s cover-up and multiply it many thousand times and you get all the deaths of the Iraqi’s and our own troops, and the cover-up by the Bush admin that we “had to attack” to stop WMDs that never existed and were in fact fabricated.
So yes. NH was gang raped (I believe, according to Deepak’s email as analyzed by Dr. Hodges and also imo from sifting through the events that night). She was drugged with GHB and sexually assaulted by Joran, Deepak and Satish. And Paulus + the ALE covered it up. And that is wrong. And it should be righted. But let’s remember that most of the Arubans probably felt just as bad as we did to hear of this crime, and are suffering because of it, far more than the Van Der Sloots who have money and can get by. Many Arubans depend on tourism for their livelihoods. They have sons and daughters just like our sons and daughters… just like Natalee. And this is hurting them in ways it is not hurting those of us that are mere witnesses to it. All I’m saying is, direct your anger and hate where it belongs.
right on #42!
Answering my own post. When the pope becomes protestant is when Aruba will prosecute. It’s obvious the government doesn’t care about the safety of its visitors, so why would anyone go there? And please, I don’t want to hear how Aruba is marketing for the European or Latin American vacation $$. By refusing to hold those responsible for the kidnapping, rape and murder of Natalee Holloway, Aruba has declared every tourist – persona non grata.
Senseless the way they let a liar rule everybody’s life!
Joran has lied repeatedly. A judge should make him say what the truth really is….and since he’s lied so much he should have to provide proof he is finally telling the truth.
S.S
I HAVE STARTED DOING EMAILS AND CONTACTING PEOPLE .. TRAVEL AGENCIES ETC LETS ALL JOIN IN .. CAN ANYONE GET THE EMAIL TO JOSSY MANSURR .. THE DIARIO NEWSPAPER
WE COULD FLOOD THEM WITH EMAILS
MIDNIGHT WRITER
U NEED TO STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE WITH YOUR NEGATIVE B.S
Hey Midnight Rider,
Nobody cares about your Bush hating and you’re trolling for what here?
I’ll support you if you can tell me who said this?
“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”
It still is a lot of leads in this case to say it can not be solved is ludicrous. Start with who is paying the immoral attorny Taco with the greased up hair. I sure as hell want to know! We know Posner is on the island and he is Mafia and Taco is a mafia lawyer. Just doesn’t figure how Joran gets Taco to stand up for him without a lot of cash. The other girls raped by Joran not coming forward means somebody is still in control with a heavy fist.
Still haven’t heard anything else about the schoolgirl rape. Is the body still laying on the side of the hill thats hard to get to?
I still wonder if their is more than Joran involved or they trying to cover up their cover up. well of course it is more, we have mafia lawyers involved.
Damn, Aruba you are a hell hole.
I never thought Fox news has any credibility no matter what they say for or against.
Is their not one person in Washington that gives a damn about citizens. I think not. Was it substaniated that Bacchus got a payoff fron Aruba?
That would be a good place to start with our government.
Movin’ to Germany aint’zzzzz gonna helpsk yaaaaa
Sporter!
ekk ekkkkk ekkkk ekkkkkk
-Popeye
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I have a feelin’ someone will mobilize and
eat your lunch bag, sack and all,
li’l beeeeeeyaattttch.
LIKE BTO SAYS: You ain’t seen nothing yet!
Here I thought things had come to an end…
but Joran’s HELL IS JUST BEGINNING.
Luv ya, Beth… you’re a good
momma.
Tell the truth Paulos it’s all in your hands now. You have dug your own grave and your son’s. There is no where to go and no where to hide. The only way you can protect him now is if you own up to your part in this charade!!! He is a walking time bomb and it is all due to your selfish desire to hide the truth, and enable him. You have created a monster, and you have destroyed so many lives in the process. You are cornered now and so is he. What is it you were trying to hide??? Did you really think this would better his life??? He would have been better off taking responsibility for his actions. Now he is suffering more because of yours. You can only live a lie for so long and than it comes back to rare it’s ugly face.
#43 I see you think highly of Bush but it CAN get worse..just wait on HILLARY!!
Boycott ARUBA!!!
http://tinyurl.com/2gxjsq
Where is Van der Stratten and why doesn’t he show his face that lowlife coward ?
#48 right on Katie. Midnight Rider you need to go sing ‘Kum-ba-yah’ to the world somewhere else.
Balkenende states that Holland will assist Aruba in the investigation “where necessary”.
Enough of this shyte!
This is swiftly approaching three years of “necessary” assistance!
The corrupt of Aruba & Holland are responsible for allowing this travesty of justice!
Why do they remain?
Why does the Queen Bea not step in and DEMAND this shyte end?
How how does the corruption reach in Holland?
“Follow the money.” – Mark Felt aka Deep Throat
Emails will not work. Every US corporation looks very seriously though when letters are sent through the mail. This is because that they feel if someone really means it, they will take the time to write a letter.
Write letters to all US and Dutch politicians.
Write letters to all the US, and Dutch companies. Tell them that there is a boycott on their products until Natlaee is produced.
70% of Aruba’s tourism is from the United States. Lists must be compiled that illustrate which companies travel there. Letters must be written.
A central, unified “Boycott Aruba & the Netherlands” website must be initiated. There should also be hundreds of other boycott sites maintained by individuals. Each site could be an information gatherer for the main web site.
This is where YOU come in!
Are we not all tired of this world of woe that dehumanizes us all? Industrialization and endless mechanization. The same dehumanization that allowed Natalee’s fate.
Being told that one person does not matter?
You DO matter!
You CAN bring about change!
This is a tight economy worldwide now.
Our efforts can bring about change.
Focus.
You have to believe!
Chaos theory holds that one butterfly flapping its wings can change world wide weather.
Be a butterfly!
#54 – OMG what you posted is the definition of evil…and that he is. My hope is that everyone here cuts and pastes your link and passes it on to their connections so it continues. Joran is a very dangerous person, has never been told no, is feeding off the publicity as if it were good, it’s not. Anyone who has contact with Joran be afraid. He is surrounded by dark energy.
Which news show is going to do a bombshell show on the cover-up. They have all danced around….there is so much it is unbelievable:
Here Fox…I will make this easy four you. Start with these topics:
* Paulus searching his computer per Art Wood tonight (we all knew about this but it is just being covered by the media)
* Aruba’s failure to develop a timeline for Paulus Van Der Sloot
* Vocking stepping down from his prosecution job to help the Van Der Sloot’s and get in the way of the Van Der Sloot compound.
* Karin Janssen providing the letter to allow PVDS to “layer the onion” with judicial rulings to make him almost impossible to cover
* Getting an explanation of who was playing “third base” at the card table the night of NH’s murder
* Getting an explanation of what the two times were that PVDS was with NH on the night of her murder (a fact determined by the Aruban Courts)
* Why did Joran board a bus at 6:45am near Lorenzo’s house? Why did Paulus call to have him picked up at the busstop near Lorenzo’s?
* Why haven’t the Aruban prosecutors done detailed interviews of the Gottenboes?
* Why would Guido be charged with “heavy battery” if there was no body? Why would Guido lawyer up with the most expensive defense attorney in Europe?
* Why has everyone involved left Aruba? JVDS, Geoffrey, Koehn, Guido, etc. etc.?
* What was the explanation of the “Chicago Videos”? Why does it appear that PVDS and JVDS are driving away from what appears to be a crimescene? This, the day that JVDS was leading authorities to the body?
* Why would a judge that stays at the VDS compound be allowed to rule on the case?
* Why would Van Der Strattan say, “I can’t do this to my friend’s son” and stating it was a homicide as “he has seen the evidence”.
* Why would Aruba arrest two black guys when it was clear that they knew she had seizures (based on their questioning of the parents)?
* Why would Aruban investigators continuously threaten the family that they would stop the “investigation” if they didn’t stop asking questions?
This list could go on and on…….it seems that Fox likes to do interviews when others have done the work….someone needs to roll up their sleeves and start exposing everything we in blog world have known about for a long time. Come on 20/20, Nightline, Fox….there is big money and ratings to the station that decides to take these on and either confirm them….or debunk them.
The cover-up will be in PLAIN VIEW when someone in the media does the work.
MD
Hi guys,
This is a repost from earlier about the travel show protest of Aruba in honor of Natalee Holloway, and I was copying it again with permission from the writer, Marlee. This is from the website, “Scared Monkeys.” It is such a good idea, we hope everybody will pick up on this and join in. so, here it is! She said it is ok to post her message there also. Just bumping in case any people from other boards are reading. Marlee said it is ok to take this back to your boards, and let everyone know! This is a very well organized gathering, with all proper permits, specially printed T-shirts, and such.
Hi Monkeys!
Even after Joran has confessed to Natalee’s demise, called the Aruban law enforcement “f*cking idiots” and laughed in the face of the Aruban government, the judge has made the decision there will be no re-arrest of Joran. Now, more than ever, we need to unite and fight to get justice for Natalee.
The Boston Travel Show is being held February 22-24. Aruba is a supporting sponsor of this event. We need YOU there. We need to let Aruba know that we will not stand for this type of treatment of an American citizen. We need to educate travelers on the cover up, corruption, and injustice that abounds on Aruba.
My son and I are driving 12 hours to get there. Six hours into the trip we are picking up fellow Monkey CJ. We have a hotel room in downtown Boston, 1.5 miles from the convention center, for $60 a night through Priceline.com. If I can do this, so can you. If you can only be there for 15 minutes, an hour, a day, we need to unite and stand strong for what we believe.
You don’t have to post here to be a Monkey; you don’t have to read here every day to be a Monkey. To me, the definition of a Monkey is someone who believes in justice for Natalee and all missing people. Someone who believes that Aruban Government needs to do the right thing and if they don’t they need to suffer the consequences.
I know there are Monkey’s that are closer to Boston than we are. WE NEED YOU THERE!!!
If you are able to join us at the Boston Travel Show, please contact Vicki at JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com for details.
Here is a link for the travel show http://www.bostonglobetravelshow.com/
WE STAND WITH THE GIRL NATALEE HOLLOWAY! (If we don’t, who will?)
Marlee, you are one of my heros. This is so great what you are doing. Thank you. xoxo NM
“Surrounded by dark energy” sounds tripe. What I should have said is Joran is a P.O.S. bullying, nascistic sociopath.
Lilpuma, I think you missed my post to you on an earlier thread. It would be great to get together with you where we met–at the bookstore downtown for Beth’s book signing. SM has my permission to give you my email address. Hopefully we can meet once the threat of snow passes since I’m out in the far burbs. Miss U–would you like to join us?
Justice for Natalee Holloway!
#50 – If I’m thinking the same schoolgirl you’re referencing that was raped in the classroom while on cell phone video – (from what I read here) no charges were pressed and her parents removed her from the island.
#55 – Yes, where is VS and why hasn’t he been asked further questions? Why did he declare he had seen the evidence (that Natalee was deceased)? What evidence? Why did he suggest Joran be committed? And here’s some more questions: Why hasn’t Karin J. been asked more questions re: PVDS getting a get out of jail free card and then being able to sue and win compensation from the government? Why was Paulus when arrested allowed to drive his car to the police station? Why wasn’t Koen interrogated by ALE? Why were Joran’s Aruban rape victims afraid go to any further in their claims? And you think I’ve got questions, ask M.D. Dad – he’s had PVDS nailed from the beginning.
It looks like Natalee’s family has decided to come out with evidence that the general public isn’t aware of. It started with Beth letting the world know that the ALE asked her if Natalee had a history of seizures. The next night Jug told of how he was asked by ALE if he had sex with Natalee.
Tonight on Kimberly G’s show Art Wood let out that this case will be solved with PVDS’s computer. He confirmed that PVDS looked up the effects of alcohol mixed with certain drugs. He reported that Michael Dompig told Jug that PVDS borrowed a friends boat the night Natalee went missing. Lastly, he feels that Daury equals Daddy. We know these things already, but not the average American. Kimberly is a good friend to Natalee’s case and knows the facts.
Shame on you Aruba!
minnesota dad, you need to volunteer yourself to Fox News! You have such a command of the facts in this case, you definitely are needed now. Greta, Geraldo and Bill do not seem to be able to put it all together and ask the “key” questions. One thing that bothers me is that everybody assumes that Natalee was disposed of that same night. Set them straight, minnesota dad.
Fox News with Kimberly – 2/16/08
Art Wood – “Daury is daddy.”
“PVDS took boat”.
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The judges judging for those guilty of Natlaee’s disappearance stayed at the PVDS home!
How high does the corruption go?
Follow the drug money.
Katie Katie forty-eighty… it’s not my “negative BS” but Bush’s. That’s the problem with Bush supporters, they can’t attribute anything properly. Just like him. (9/11 = Saddam instead of Osama)
And to Deetch, I believe that is Clinton’s quote. [Btw, the chemical weapons Saddam had which he used on his own people he GOT from the US to use on Iranians in the Iran/Iraq war. Then people wonder why the M.E. hates us!] So what sets Clinton aside from Bush? He didn’t start a war. He balanced the national debt. He strengthened the economy and left the US with a SURPLUS. One of the most successful and popular Presidents of the US to date. Bush quickly turned that surplus into a multi-trillion $ debt and set off a series of costly debacles to the American people (Enron, etc) that became so numerous only a savant could keep track… and that was *before* he fabricated the WMD story to invade Iraq.
Aruba is corrupt. The Bush/Cheney admin is corrupt. Saddam was worse than both. Osama is worse still. All I’m saying is that the hate going out to the Aruban *people* is misdirected. They didn’t want NH to die. They didn’t want her death covered up. No citizens approve of corruption in their government.
To all young women: please avoid Aruba!
Bill O’Reilly: …”they target the tourists..”
Aruban girl Leila writes that both tourists and local girls are targeted:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53049
I just had an epiphamy…don’t waste the time emailing a company that has an establishment in Aruba about the injustices that were done to Natalee and her family. Duh. GOOGLE THE COMPANY AND IF IT’S PUBLICLY HELD (I.E. TRADED), FIND AND WRITE EACH PERSON THAT IS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS and in addition to your feelings cut and paste #59 post. The emails should be courteous and concise. No threats or bad language. The Board of Directors drive publicly held companies. They’re the movers and the shakers. Let’s do it.
#65 Open a Window….
I would be more than happy to help the news stations with this one if they want to put me on retainer. Hell, someone is paying Taco a boatload and I could actually add something to this case.
The problem is that the mainstream media still thinks the Internet is full of wackos. They would be pretty surprised to find a serious entrepreneur that lives in a big house cares about and tracks this case diligently from Minnesota.
I know how cover-ups work and have had this one pegged from approximately June 5, 2005. All of the telltale signs were there that this was a Caribbean Tourism cover-up that was never going to be solved…by design.
Call me whenever Fox, 20/20, Nightline…..Let’s go and create a bombshell show that rattles Aruba to its core!
MD
Just to keep the pressure on Joran I wish Peter DeVries would bring assault charges against him for throwing the wine in his face. It may seem trivial but Joran needs to know that this is just the beginning for him. And I mean trivial next to murder. Throwing wine in someone’s face is just not acceptable behavior. He shouldn’t get away with it. Do you think Anita grounded Joran? Or did she ask for a drag on his doobie?
I also hope that DeVries program is shown throughtout all of Europe just to keep the pressure on.
Shame on you Aruba!
People keep pointing out that “Daddy” and “Daury” are so close, but does Joran speak and/or think in English except when he needs to? The Dutch word for Dad or Father is Vader, and in the tapes he was speaking Papiamento, a Dutch creole language. Not that I disagree it was Paulus that helped him, or that he threw Daury out to offer a name to satisfy Patrick without giving away the real person. But I don’t know that “Daddy” was what he was thinking… more likely “Vader,” which still has a strong d-sound and might very well remind him of “Daury.”
Hey guys,
The post above about the boycott of Aruba at the travel show feb 22-24 in Boston is from me. Marlee, the writer, gave us permission to post it on other boards or websites. Feel free to copy it and put it anywhere. I posted it on GretaWire, Craigslist Boston, Al.com, and some other sites in the comments sections.
Midnight Rider,
So Clinton was right about WMD’s Sadamm had them?
You just don’t like that he got them from the U.S.?
What better way to speak with confidence.
So you’re comment “had to attack” to stop WMDs that never existed and were in fact fabricated.”
But I thought you just said he got them from the U.S.?
Which is it? Is that you Paulus?
BETH and DAVE LOOK FOR DAUGHTER.
………while……….
SLOOTS SCHEME A SCAM OF A LAWSUIT.
# 71 krisg
I FOWARDED YOUR COMENTS TO PETER DEVRIES.. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL EMAIL OUR RESPONSES AND COMMENTS TO HIM IN SUPPORT OF HIS EFFORTS TO GET JUSTICE FOR NATALIE..HERE IS HIS EMAIL ADRESS..
peter.schouten@endemol.nl
In Aruba if a man kills a sweet young innocent girl, it goes down as “Murder One” and he gets to serve a whole 15 years in prison. What kind of justice is that! This is what Joran would have gotten if he had been tried and found guilty. I read somewhere that the penalty for dumping a body is 6 months in prison . Wow, what is wrong with this country? Such little regard for human life. Is there no justice. Are the laws in the Netherlands the same? Only 15 years. The message here is shocking. For instance if Joran decided to kill his family….the risk would only be 15 years in prison, right? Another shocking message, that a person can admit to a crime (with a hidden camera) and when the video taping is played the perpitrator can say “Oh I was on drugs (even though he was very clear and precise)”. Of course he can also said “Oh , I lied”. Now what criminal wouldn’t say that to save his own neck. I can only wonder, how many of Aruba’s jailbirds did the same. I’ll bet that there are plenty who were on drugs/intoxicated and who lied and they still went to jail and served their time. Joran is getting special treatment. It is unfair. Then of course, he is “The” judges son!!! I wonder what Queen Beatrice has to say about her wonderful country of born liars, murderers, and rapists. Who knows maybe Joran will date one of her relatives (another sweet young girl), buy her a drink and take her for the ride of her life. Her last ride. Maybe then something will be done.
Kalpoe Brothers to Joran in the police car taped recording….”If they find Natalee , you will get 15 years in prison.” (punishment for murder)
Amazing that this murderer is walking around free and poor Natalee(who knows how she died) possibly suffered and he laughs and continuely mocks his government. Even planning to sue them. Evil Son of a B—-!!!!
Evil Family…those Van Der Sloots. They did a disservice to Joran and forgot to teach him about honesty and truth. We will remember them as liars. Joran will be remembered as the likes of “Jack the Ripper”. Such a shame. Such a waste.
First Midnight Winter…this particular thread is not about politics..especially corrupt politics from the Clintons.
Secondly, Joran did say one truth ‘ALE are f’ing idiots’..I totally stand behind Joran on this one.
I know this case has been foremost on our minds since it happened…but did any of you ever notice that when the media attention or coverage would die down for a while ARUBA would come up with something like rearresting the perps…or arresting someone else…or just something crazy that ALWAYS left no satisfaction for Natalee’s case. You have got to wonder what is wrong with those people. It always seemed okay when they were shooting themselves in the foot…but they sure hate it when someone else (devries) shoots them in the foot…the higher ups in Aruba have serious..VERY serious mental issues.
Today I have learned something about the Netherlands. That no matter what Joran does or did , their government will never prosecute him. He has card-blanche to do whatever pleases him. Drink, Gamble, Lie, Drugs, Rape and even Murder!! I am convinced that Americans are walking targets in both countries, Aruba and the Netherlands. We the people have to protect ourselves and learn from this.
I believe with all my heart and soul that the Aruban police have known from day one that Natalee was dead (wouldn’t be surprised if the body has washed to shore long ago and that there was a cover-up).I can only conclude this to be true.
To fellow Americans! One for all and all for one!!! United we stand for Natalee Holloway. Boycott Aruba, Boycott the Netherlands. Write you congressmen. No alligence to murderers of American citizens and to the protectors of these murderers. Again, write your congressmen.
SS #8 I couldn’t get the boycott aruba site to come up. Got any ideas? I liked everything that you said and want some justice for the family of Natalee. I’m so sick of their arrogrance!
I can only conclude that Joran is related to someone very important. Maybe grandmother related to Royal Family… Would like to see his geneology. Might answer all our questions as to why he is getting away with this. Right!
I’N JUST WATCHING NOW TO SEE, OUT OF MORBID CURIOSITY, HOW UTTERLY THE ARUBAN ECONOMY WILL BE DECIMATED.
AND THEY DID IT TO THEMSELVES.
THEY ARE THE DUMBEST PEOPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN — IT’S LIKE THEY THINK WE’LL JUST MAGICALLY WAKE UP ONE DAY AND SAY ‘OH, WELL — NO BIG DEAL,’ AND IT WILL BE BUSINESS AS USUAL.
THREE YEARS AND ONE COLLAPSING ECONOMY LATER, THEY S-T-I-L-L DON’T GET IT. LIFE, AS THEY ONCE KNEW AND ENJOYED IT (AND BASED ON O-U-R MONETARY INPUT), IS OVER.
WE ARE UNDER N-O O-B-L-I-G-A-T-I-O-N TO SPEND OUR MONEY THERE. ABSOLUTELY NONE.
10′s OF MILLIONS OF TOURIST DOLLARS ALREADY GONE = PROTECTING AND CODDLING A SELF-CONFESSED CRIMINAL MONSTER WHO SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE WALKED THE EARTH, TO BEGIN WITH.
CONGRATULATIONS, ARUBA — WAS JORAN VAN DER SCUM WORTH IT ALL?
WE AREN’T COMING BACK.
AND NETHERLANDS,
WHY ARE YOU C-O-N-D-O-N-I-N-G RAPE AND MURDER?
YOU SUCK EVERY BIT AS MUCH AS ‘ONE CORRUPT ISLAND.’
I BELIEVE PAULASS AND AH-NEED-A-DRINK VAN DER SLEAZE HAVE TACITLY PARTICIPATED IN AND/OR CONDONED THE RAPE AND NOW MURDER OF INNOCENT VICTIMS BY RAISING AZZHOLE JORAN TO BE THE SELF-CONFESSED PREDATORY MONSTER THAT HE IS (AT A VERY EARLY AGE)– AND ENABLING AND ENCOURAGING HIS MANIACAL, CRIMINAL, SOCIOPATHIC BEHAVIOR …
… AND ‘ONE CORRUPT ISLAND’ AND NOW THE NETHERLANDS HAVE DONE, AND ARE DOING, THE SAME THING.
Thank you Bill O’Reilly for jumping onboard!!! This is the worst heinous crime to a human being by a sicko who needs to be locked up along with his slimmy father, Paulus, and the rest of the so-called Auburan authorities who are blind to justice. And thank you Peter DeVries for the courage to get this story public so the world could see this scumbag at his true self. If Joran is fearful for his life, will he dang should be. Forward with the BOYCOTT.
Clarification, please. I am a new poster, so please forgive me for re-hashing old ground. Is it true that the bones that washed up the Aruba beach were definitively determined to be those of a donkey? Also, I read somewhere on the web that an arm had washed up on a Venezuela beach and that testing was “in progress.” The arm information I read was really old (c. 2005?), but I never could find anything out about the arm in subsequent posts. Does anyone know if anything ever came of this?
Watch out RUNNN FOR COVER! Beavis and Butthead have Spoken! O’Reilly still is as ignorant as ever when he still talks about the use of Jury, while at the end Rivera corrects him by saying need proof to back up the confession.
Joran said some day he would tell what happened, man up and tell all you frigging pussy!
Hiding behind Paulas`s skirt like a 2 year old, either of you are men just 2 overgrown apes!This will haunt you the rest of your lives, until you clear your consious!!Makeing an entire island suffer, well they may make you suffer with them.
Bill O´Reilly : “Charge him, let the jury decide or no more Aruba and every decent person should feel the way that we do.”
Yes, sure, fortunately, our justice system in the Netherlands is ore sophisticated as that. We do not HAVE a jury, we do not live in the Middleages.
Of course, it is very normal to let 90,000 people suffer because of one unsolved crime.
Will one of the talking heads on TV please ask Joe T who he is representing? Is it Joran or the island of Aruba? Can someone ask him who pays his bills and expenses on this case? I’m sure his sleazy “investigator” reads this site so he’ll have a good answer ready. Joe has got to go face to face with Nancy Grace.
Shame on you Aruba!
“Just to keep the pressure on Joran I wish Peter DeVries would bring assault charges against him for throwing the wine in his face.”
Yup, thats what’s been happening from day one. Keep the focus on Joran, if not then boycots, threats and other blackmail.
wonder who joran and his sick family will try to sue next for his distress. Now the world knows how sick he and his father really are and that punisment will follow him around for life. I was hoping they would have after being handed his head so to speak on a sliver platter do something, We feel sorry for the people of Aruba but there is no way in hell with two teens I NEVER would consider going to a place were they don’t protect citizens or outsiders visiting from sexual preditors and killers.
Smart move by the way! Bringing this up again at a time you are sure there’s no provider or website logs anymore that proof it was only after the infection that these sites were visited.
Or is there..
Open a Window on February 16th, 2008 6:18 pm
I would like to know exactly where they were searching for Natalee when Deepak and Satish said “if they find that girl you are going to get 15 years . . .” They must have believed that Natalee’s body could have been found. Were they close?
To Open a Window,
I’m about 89% sure that Dave Holloway was at the landfill at the time of this statement. 11% chance I’m wrong.
Jerry
This is another good example of how people manipulate in this case.
Any investigator would find it more interesting to know what the hell this specific type of trojan(probably one recompiled straight from altered sourcecode) was doing on this computer.
It dont make sense to try to coverup internettracks on your local machine you know. There’s always logs with providers, websites etc…
So the real question is, who or what was experienced enough in hacking to be able to plant this specific trojan.
Bill doesn’t have is facts straight. There IS NO JURY in Aruba. A corrupt judge would decide if Joran is guilty or not. What’s the point of charging him if he is going to be found not guilty by a single judge?
Didn’t the same thing happen at Kalpoes!?
If they actually had some computerskills, would they be dumb enough to try to manipulate local timestamps and such to coverup stuff that’s being logged all over the net…?
It’s not so hard people to find out if anyone in the circle of these people had knowledge to pull this off. To even make the choice of using this trojan one needs years of knowledge that is impossible to hide.
Who had this type of knowledge!?
There are some mysteries in this case that I would like for someone to explain, and believe me it doesn’t have anything to do with President Bush.
First, what was filmed at the rocks? I believe beyond any doubt that in video #8 at the 2min 45 second mark, the guy picks up a human hand and arm, and it is not the hand and arm of a 7 year old that had been laying there for a year. It looks very much like Natalee’s arm and hand. If not her than the arm and hand of a white, small framed woman who is obviously dead.
Second, what was filmed at the cement basin? Does anyone doubt that there is a body or bodies in the bag?
Third, in the picture of the ranger holding up the cloth that very much looks like Natalee’s blouse top, what are we seeing? I did a color pick between a picture of Natalee’s top and the fabric that the ranger holds up. All colors that I picked from the picture of Natalee’s blouse matched the colors in the fabric, but not all colors in the fabric matched Natalee’s blouse. I picked colors from the other girls clothing and got a match with 2 or 3 colors that were in the fabric, but not every color matched like with Natalee blouse (I had over 100 matches).
My conclusion is that the fabric the ranger is holding up is Natalee’s blouse, but it has some stains, blood etc. that cannot be matched with Natalee’s top. I also conclude that the blouse was a plant. Does anyone have a better idea?
I know some have offered an explanation of the June 10 date on the Chicago videos, but nothing lines up for me. If someone can offer and explanation, please do.
Jerry
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Bill O’Reilly has his share of “personal” problems, but that doesn’t mean he is not credible, he is just a conservative and therefore not exempt from personal attack like the supporters of Bill and Hillary Clinton tell us they are suppose to be.
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WHERE’S NATALEE, PAULASS?
WHERE’S NATALEE, AH-NEED-A-DRINK?
ALL YOU ‘VAN DER SLIMES’ SUCK.
AND NOW HE’S ‘AFRAID HIS LIFE IS IN DANGER’?
I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY ABOUT THAT: “HOW DOES IT FEEL, M*THERF*CKER?”
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And don’t forget, not only Joran, Paulus also said he knew what happened but couldn’t say because innocent people would get hurt…another lie!!! I suppose that is where Joran learned to lie so well…what a horrible thing…someone’s daughter is missing and people admit to knowing what happened but wouldn’t tell…
Wake up people! They don’t want a trial.
But they will get it now, trust me they will.
The truth will come out. One does not try to fool Holland into sick games, if you do all the lies and deception will come out and that is happening rightnow.
We don’t care if Joran goes to jail for rape and murder, as long as there’s proof and a proper investigation into everything surrounding this case.
That will also include all the blackmail attempts, obstruction of justice and other attempts to manipulate this investigation.
FOR THE TROLLS—-For those of you who dislike the boycott over ‘one missing girl’ let me appeal to another side of you and the boycott. Boycott ARUBA FOR NATALEE!! Secondly, Boycott ARUBA because what normal person would want to take their family to an island that has no types of law or protection. A vacation location is not worth having to try to protect yourself with weapons. READ THIS AGAIN—vacationing in Aruba is taking your safety into your own hands. They have No LAW and NO ONE TO ENFORCE THE LAW..you are on your own. If you are mugged, robbed, raped, etc..too bad! It was your choice to go there.
“Of course, it is very normal to let 90,000 people suffer because of one unsolved crime.” posted by Jan Jaap
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Yes, it is a shame that the perpetrators and the Aruban authorities are letting the Aruban people suffer.
The blame for the suffering of the Arubans lies squarely with the perps involved in killing Natalee and disposing of her body and also the officials who let them get away with it. They have denied justice to American citizen Natalee Holloway. They have denied justice to a tourist and an innocent young woman.
THAT is why tourism is tanking and will continue to do so.
Sorry, but American tourists have no obligation to spend their vacation money in Aruba or to support the Aruban economy.
The boycott is not about revenge. It is a call to justice and an effort to educate and protect other tourists.
No other tourist or family should ever have to go through what the Holloways have endured. It is obvious that the deepest suffering has been on the part of Natalee and the Holloway family.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
FOR NATALEE
FOR JUSTICE
FOR YOU!
If it is true Joran is in Germany, they should
hunt his a$$ down. At some point even a village idiot has to ask, why is he being protected? Why is he allowed to avoid going to college in the Netherlands… (which correct me if I am wrong – BUT COLLEGE WAS THE *****ONLY REASON HE WAS ALLOWED TO GO TO NL. To finish his education, and stay out of trouble.)
READ> College — As opposed to: Smokin’ doobies all day, and playing games of friggin’ Patty-cake
& GO FISH with GRANDMA!
Why is JORAN allowed to country skip? He is still the MAIN SUSPECT in the Natalee Holloway case, is he not? He’s a flight risk.
At a certain point, even a DOLT, with the IQ of mfn DOOR STOPPER has to ask themselves…
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WHY ARE THE RULES FOR JORAN NOT APPLICABLE UNDER *ANY* CIRCUMSTANCES?
WHY DOES THIS SNOT NOSED SAWED OFF TWO BIT PRICK
HAVE LAWYERS IN 3 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES? WHY DOES
A 17-20 YEAR OLD ***** WHO ISN’T A BUMP ON AN ELEPHANT’S A$$ **** NEED A MEDIA SPIN CONTROL TEAM?
WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL HIS LAWYERS?
IS THERE A LOOPHOLE THE FBI/INTERPOL COULD CRAWL THROUGH TO BRING HIS ASS TO FACE CHARGES RIGHT HERE IN US?
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The Aruban people must be so sick & entirely fed up that Joran keeps doing this to them. Let us not forget, it was his big flappin’ mouth that
re-opened the investigation. Aruba you have a SLOOT to thank for that! That must really chap your knickers. There wouldn’t be much of a case at all if Joran didn’t keep running that big mouth of his.
He has been the gift that keeps on
giving. For that J, many people are very
thankful! You’re truly an idiot on the size and scale of something that we’ve never encountered before…
Hats off to you. Thanky Panky, for
being such an industrial strength
F-TARD.
Thanks for keepin’ it alive.
Don’t forget to pack your special helmet with the velcro chin strap for your trip to Deutchland, swa swa!
Alrighty then…
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Jerry, if the blouse was a plant, to what end? It disappeared so quickly, along with the blonde hair and duct tape. Wouldn’t they “parade” it around to show that Natalee was in the water? As for the videos near the lighthouse: They picked up Natalee’s body by the painted rocks and we see on the tape that she is put in white plastic bags or tarps. We also see the photos from the basin of her in the same white plastic bags. What a bunch of keystone cops! This along with the shallow grave, make me wonder how many times she was moved? Some witnesses said they saw (some are more familiar with the details than I) people carrying a woman with long hair wrapped in something and being put in the dump.
All of this, and your comment that Dave was looking in the dump around the time of Deepak’s statement, make me think that Dave was close to finding her. Her top could have been a plant to keep Dave Holloway out of the dump, they sure filled in that hole at the dump pretty quickly didn’t they? Still, her body could have been moved again, from the dump and then out to sea.
Someone needs to get Joran alone and have a very “productive” talk with him.
#109
Hope you are right…the world is watching. Not sure which side you are on you send mixed messages but you know your country better than I do so I’ll hope for the best.
A reminder folks Persistence is still hard at work with more probable ground to cover,delayed by very rough seas…they really do need funds so if you haven’t and you can spare a few $ please so send to:
Texas Equusearch
PO Box 395
Dickinson, TX 77359
Mark your check “Natalee Search”
YES BOYCOTT ARUBA!!! I AM TIRED OF HEARING HOW THE ARUBAN RESIDENTS ARE BEING VICTIMIZED IN THIS. IT IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. IF THEY ARE TRULY AS UPSET ABOUT THIS AS THEY SAY, THEN THEY NEED TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO UNITE AS A GROUP AGAINST THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT ON ALL LEVELS.
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SEEING THEM TAKE STRONG ACTION AGAINST OBVIOUS CORRUPTION, I SEE THEM JUST AS GUILTY AS THE ACTUAL PERPETRATORS…BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPORTING ALL THE WRONG DOING, BY NOT BEING STRONG ENOUGH.
ARUBA ARE YOU READING THIS: MY INFLUENCE IS VERY WIDE, AND YOU CAN BE SURE, THAT I HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN INFORMING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE TRAVEL AGENCY INDUSTRY, AND THE SCUBA DIVING INDUSTRY, NOT TO VISIT YOUR DISHONEST AND DANGEROUS ISLAND. WE ARE STILL WATCHING YOU TO SEE WHAT YOU WILL DO, AND WILL NEVER STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS TRAVESTY UNTIL IT IS FAIRLY RESOLVED.
To the new monkeys who have suggested writing to politicians, CEOs, etc. That is a great idea. A number of us have already done that and will probably send out more letters and emails at regular intervals. I must say though that the only response I received was from Bill Clinton. In fact, please get a copy of Beth’s book and read on page 152 how Clinton tried to help in Natalee’s case. He heard from agents on Aruba that Joran had a Green Bay Packers poster on his wall. Clinton phoned Brett Favre who was willing to meet with Joran. When Favre’s management heard about it they nixed the idea. At least he and Clinton tried some sort of action. Clinton is from AR, Beth’s home state and Favre is from MS, Dave’s state.
Another good idea is to purchase the books by Dave and Beth and donate them to your local library or your local high schools. I also inserted the info from Beth’s website for International Safe Travels.
Here was Clinton’s response to my letter:
July 26, 2006
Thank you for writing. I appreciate your frustration about the Natalee Holloway case. There is nothing more frightening for a parent than a missing child.
I will keep your thoughts in mind as solutions to this dilemma are sought. Thank you for speaking out.
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton
I did get some flack when I first wrote about this because of Clinton’s past with women, but right now that doesn’t concern me. Right now I am interested in Justice for Natalee Holloway.
Shame on you Aruba!
Spread the word……..
You can sign the Boycott Aruba “JUSTICE FOR NATALEE” petition at:
http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com
Also there are currently plans being made in Boston for a demonstration against events sponsored or attended by Aruba Tourism Authority. It’s the only one I have found thus far. Contact Vicki or Richard for more information in the Boston area: justicefornatalee@gmail.com
“JUSTICE FOR NATALEE”
Gabriel Leo,
Yes, Bill O. made a mistake talking about jury trials in Aruba, but let’s face it:
The REAL ignorance lies on the Aruban officials who continue to deny justice to Natalee.
Gabe Leo,
Boston and New York:
Back-to-back protests of the
TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE
that occurred in
ARUBA
kayjay, 100% support from me for Persistence! We talk about the dump, too, but I think that it is interesting that things have REALLY heated up with Joran since the deep water search began.
They had a great piece on
the RV PERSISTENCE last night
with Girdle Van Susteren! (here if u missed it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YSYAvEqyXw
My two cent take on the coverup.
Why: Because he has done it twenty times before. He sells his drugged victims for sex favors and then brings them back to their hotels. He sells souvenir photos to his clients put keeps a copy for black mail purposes. Deepak downloads the photos. Deepak and Satish are covered by Paulus. If they talk, Joran and others go down. They are being paid off by the van der Sloots who are in fact very wealthy Dutch Nationals.
The cover up is because of how wide spread and how often this was done. Most victims will not come forward because; They simply do not remember, they are too embarrassed or they have been physically threatened.
Many were arrested no one convicted…..YET
Who wants to bet on the next move of the Aruban/Sloot coverup as they shift into “Damage Control”? I see Paulus putting Urine in a mental hospital, where they can control his mouth and keep him out of harms way. In a few months, he will be magically cured of his “multiply personalities disorder”. This is known as the TACO SPIN.
Peter is under the opinion that by not arresting Joran he is being rewarded by undermining the police investigation, the fact that a person consistently lies in a case of life and death, is precisely a motive to keep him locked behind bars…
Might I suggest that we keep this thread on topic, and not divert to the Iraq war?
I’ll be interested to see if O’Reilly continues to cover the Natalee Holloway case when there are no new developments and have been none. It’s easy for media to jump in if something “sensational” happens, have everyone yap-yap-yapping, and get people interested.
Then, when things subside, they move on. This Web site (and others, of course), and Dana’s coverage, have been far more dedicated to the case than the “mainstream media.”
Anyway, one idea here: rather than have everyone writing off letters out of the blue, perhaps we could agree on ONE TARGET PER MONTH, or something like that.
For example, when JetBlue introduced service to Aruba, some of us were writing to them. It didn’t stop them from doing it … but imagine if, every day, it got letters from, say, five people. The next day, another five.
Is this a pipe dream? I don’t know. With coordination, it might work. If these letters were addressed to the same person, they would have an impact.
And if we were able to say (taking JetBlue just as an example): “I will not fly on your airline while you offer service to Aruba,” that would be a specific demand.
Might be worth a try.
Remember that the e-mail address JusticeforNatalee@Gmail.com is trying to serve as a central information source for scheduled protests against Aruba Tourism Authority.
Stand up for Natalee! Come to Boston and/or New York, and support those who do!
Does everyone remember the case of Natasha Kumpisch (spelling probably wrong), the Austrian girl who was kidnapped off the street at age 10 and held in a cellar for eight years?
Interesting story out today … it appears that the Austrian government fumbled leads which COULD have led to her discovery some few weeks after she was taken.
There is a political uproar; the chief of police has been told that his contract will not be renewed; and the anger is such that the government may fall (this is possible under the parliamentary system).
Compare this with Aruba … or with Curacao in the case of Amy Bradley (her parents, on one of their searches, was told by an official: “You can look for her all you want, but you’ll never find her”) … or with the Joel Gove case on Saba.
What is it about the Netherlands Antilles?
Boycott Aruba, for sure … and heed Beth’s call to avoid all the Netherlands Antilles until there was justice.
For some reason, the website links aren’t working when I bring them into the SM site. Here are the email addresses again.
ATA’s website for travel agents (“experts on aruba”). Look in “book now” and “find an aruba expert” – http://www.aruba.com
ATA’s Public Relations email – ata.pr@aruba.com
Aruban Boycott Blogspot has information about the case, a petition to sign, and addresses and emails of government officials in the Netherlands and the US – http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/
Senator Joseph Biden is Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. His email is from his website at – http://biden.senate.gov/contact/
The Texas Equusearch address is P.O. Box 395, Dickinson, Texas 77539. Indicate on your check that the donation is for Persistence/Natalee Holloway.
Contact Aruba:
Diario Aruba:
diario@setarnet.aw
Aruba Today
news@arubatoday.com
Amigoe:
webmaster@amigoe.com
Aruba Tourism Authority
Public Relations
L.G. Smith Blvd. 172
Eagle, Aruba
Dutch Caribbean
Phone: International code +(297) 582-3777
Fax: International code +(297) 583-4702
ata.pr@aruba.com
This is the most pathetic ruling I have ever heard of in my existence — and I have been around a long time. This boy is guilty but I wonder who if being “paid off” to keep this quiet? Could it be that daddy is pushing money under the table to the Aruban Government to keep his boy from getting the punishment he deserves? I hope people stay out of Aruba. It is a place where justice can never be served(that is if you know the right people and have enough money!)
#101 Jerry,
I see the arm and hand in that video as well and even made stills of it at one time.
Second yes that looks like a body in the basin bag, there is even a video somewhere on the internet where you can see rats moving around in the bag.
I am not sure of the top and duct tape evidence but I always felt it was real evidence that was discarded.
Lastly, when were the videos made, I would like to know that as well.
s.s
you are way to cool.. i have been looking for these emails.. maybe im not as resourceful as you are.. thank god you are… i have began an email campaign to senators .. etc etc. those are emails that were posted here.. if we all do our part im sure we can make some kind of inpact…
thanks s.s
keep up the good work s.s
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Bonbini,
In case some of you missed my earlier postings, this is a list of business that are prospering on “happy island”. Contact their headquarters, send emails, remind them of what happens to US citizens when they travel to Aruba. Boycott Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles. These are names that we all recognize. Perhaps we need to be mindful of where we spend our money here at home, until there is a resolution to Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.
Radio Shack, Heineken, Benetton, Fendi, Gucci, Sears, Servistar, True Value, Cartier, Terminix, Hooters, Tony Rama, Ernst and Young, Nautica, Athlete’s Foot, Red Sail Sports, Hugo Boss, Polo Ralph Lauren, Salvatore Ferragamo, Nike, Mango, Hyatt, Radisson, Marriott, Occidental, Westin, Holiday Inn,La Quinta, Re/Max, Orbitz, Wyndham, American Express, Harley Davidson, Toyota, MacDonalds, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and Wendys.
The following cruiselines currently have scheduled stops on the miserable island of Aruba, during the next six months. During the period of time that US citizens disembark in the port of Oranjestad, they could be subjected to theft, kidnapping, drugging, and murder. The corrupt legal system in Aruba does not protect American citizens. Please do not support these cruiselines until the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is resolved.
AIDA Cruises, Princess, Royal Caribbean, Pulmantur, Holland American, Hapag Lloyd, Majestic, Celebrity, Fred Olsen, Crystal, Cunard, P and O, Club Med, Astor, Dolphin Maritime, Windstar, and Disney.
S.S
YOU KEEP SUPPLYING THE NAMES OF COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES TO ARUBA AND I WILL CONTINUE TO EMAIL THEM.. HOPEFULY MANY OF WILL AND ASK THEM TO RECONSIDER NOT TRADING WITH THEM ETC ETC.. THANKS S,S
BONBINI
I WILL CONTACT THEM ALSO
J.O
TO FUNNY BUT TRUE
#127 Richard
I like your idea.
#10 Open a Window:
the search of the land fill by TES and Dave H, i found these dates to be 4-5 weeks 7-25-05, after the recorded
converstations on 6/26/05., The major search of the island was taking place the days before those recorded
converstions.
#122
I agree things have heated up with deep water search, This confirms the crab trap theory, the perps are
now seeing what had made sense at the time of weighting the body down, is now what still makes a water search
possible. I also believe there was evidence placed in the crab trap, ” if they find the chit with/on her your going to get
15 years”
I believe the rapes were committed at the VDS home, she may died while being taken back to the hotels (dumped off
at the marriot mangroves area), then panic of burrying her temporarily by the wall Behind the huts, and the body was
then dug up taken to the deepest water, straight west of at the marriot/huts boat launch, the body and evidence
(shoes, phones ,clothes, etc.) placed in the trap.
what confuses me although. Is the aru-bay / chicago videos. on 6/9/05.
they point to another scenario which does not support finding a body, the crab trap was gone by 5/30/05, according
to fisherman’s account an Dr. Hodges site.
Can some one fit these videos in to the deep water scenario???? Please shed some light on to this.
And who is leaking these stories to the National enquire..The first one I’m posting here seems to be where jvs got hi
recent taped confession :
On 6-24-05 the “National Enquirer” reported:
MISSING NATALEE WAS DRUGGED AND LEFT FOR DEAD
By DAVID WRIGHT
Missing teen Natalee Holloway overdosed after being slipped Ecstasy at an Aruba night-spot, died on a dark beach
and was dumped at sea by one of the panicked boys she had befriended.
The National Enquirer can reveal that is the chilling theory secretly being pursued by police on the Dutch Caribbean
island.
Our own investigation shows that Natalee’s classmates from Mountain Brook, Alabama, who were with her during
her final hours, support cops’ fears that the normally responsible honor student was drugged.
A source close to the case said: “The detectives are certain that Natalee is dead. And if she was dropped by boat
far enough from shore where the currents are right, it’s unlikely her body would ever be found.”
Joran van der Sloot, 17, and three other men have been treated as suspects and are being questioned in the grim
Aruba prison in San Nicolas. They have not been charged.
Our investigation in Aruba has uncovered a disturbing portrait of the apparent main suspect — 6 ft 5 in van der Sloot,
the son of a wealthy Dutch lawyer. Friends claim that hard drinking, violence-prone Joran:
º PREYS on naïve young American girls for sex
º LIKES to fight and was forced to get anger management counseling
º POSTED pictures of himself on a personal website acting out sadomasochistic games
For more on Natalie’s disappearance, pick up this week’s issue on newsstands June 24.
and the there is “National Enquirer” story from 11/28/07 that is identical to the DeVries and informant sting
scenario…identical??? and this is why i do not lend any credibility to the latest videos, i think jvds is just setting up a
lie for when the deep water search is succesful!!!.
someone please share some theories on the aru-bay/ chicago videos fit in.
thanks
-cad
i think its all wrong….i see natalee buried under the steps of the light house….every one would assume she is in the water….but shes not…they have to have a solid place where they know the body is…where they where always know where it is….the ocean is an unknown….you dont know when the body or parts will show up….
Here is some corporate information for businesses that are prospering on the corrupt happy island, while American citizens are subjected to theft, druggings, rape, kidnapping, and murder.
McDonald’s
McDonald’s Plaza
Oak Brook, IL 60523 USA
Phone: 630-623-3000
Web: http://www.mcdonalds.com
(Isn’t this where Papa picked up Urine and Natalee!!!)
Wendy’s
4288 West Dublin-Granville Road
P.O. Box 256
Dublin, OH 43017-0256 USA
Phone: 614-764-3100
Web: http://www.wendys.com
Yum! Brands (Taco Bell and Pizza Hut)
1441 Gardiner Lane
Louisville, KY 40213 USA
Phone: 502-874-8300
Web: http://www.yum.com
NIKE
1 Bowerman Dr.
Beaverton, OR 97005-6453 USA
Phone: 503-671-6453
Web: http://www.nike.com
Toyota
1300 Cravens Ave
Torrance, CA 90501 USA
Phone: 310-468-4000
Web: http://www.toyota.com
Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation
650 Madison Ave.
New York, NY 10022 USA
Phone: 212-318-7000
Web: http://www.polo.com
Disney
500 S Buena Vista St.
Burbank, CA 91521 USA
Phone: 818-560-1000
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No worries Joran, (one day soon I hope), one way or another..you’ll get what you deserve.:) …Justice has a tendency to prevail.
To mamma and pappa Vanderslut: you produced a faulty product…don’t you think you should take
some responsibility for your offspring and make sure it is taken off the streets?
thanks again s.s
youra book of info.. thanks .. im on it..
Of course, it is very normal to let 90,000 people suffer because of one unsolved crime.
….
Well sorry, but here we don’t like to see
people thrown away in a garbage bag. Not even
one person. America is NOT PERFECT. However,
we DO CARE, and when we spot corruption, people
stand up and calls ‘em likes they sees ‘em.
If Nat was my girl, I’d assemble a 6-10 hit team,
perform a nightime landing on Aruba’s shore.
I would execute every last person involved
in this awful act of barbarism on an innocent
18 year old girl. (nah, no joke)
I’d MOST definitely be blowin’ some sh– up.
Sloots and KalpoeS are SO LUCKY they did this to a
fella who is about 10 times the man I am.
Mr. Dave Holloway, a true class act. -j4n
Boycott BANC
Boycott Bonaire
Boycott Aruba
Boycott the Netherlands
Boycott Curacao
The judges came from Curacao so, Curacao is now in the Axis of Evil
MONKEYS
PLEASE SOMEONE .. IVE BEEN ASKING THIS WITH NO RESPONSE.. WHO SAID JORAN WAS IN GERMANY.. AND IF SO WHY . CUT N PASTE IT TO ME PLEASE AT
misskatie4u2000@yahoo.com
ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR A RESPONSE
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SM: Just some internet poster, we have no idea if it’s true or total BS (klaasend)
SOMEONE PLEASE EMAIL ME ABOUT JORAN BEING IN GERMANY WHY AND WHEN
PLEASE IVE BEEN ASKING NO ONE ANSWERS,,,
http://tinyurl.com/35quqy
http://tinyurl.com/3yjeXm
http://tinyurl.com/3yhg2k
-j4n
http://tinyurl.com/2ty4up
Follow the drug money….
always1, why do you think Natalee is buried under the lighthouse steps? That area is so exposed. Do you know something?
#79 Sherry said: “First Midnight Winter…this particular thread is not about politics..especially corrupt politics from the Clintons.”
This entire thread is about the corrupt politics in ALE that led to NH’s murderers not being tried. But I agree that it is NOT about the corrupt politics of the “Clintons.” It was BUSH’s corruption that I brought up as a point of perspective.
#74 to Deetch: How does my pointing out that our current admin is corrupt AS WELL AS the ALE, **and** that Joran, Satish and Deepak all committed gang rape and murder make me “Paulus”??
As to the rest of your note, I answered it last night but my post has been removed. Everyone knows Bush was referring to nuclear weapons… hence the “mushroom cloud” he iterated in his speech to scare the Americna people into voting for the war, and Colin Powell’s speech to the UN regarding enriched uranium being sold to Saddam, this based on “intelligence” that was later proved to be fabricated by the Bush admin. So they would have settled for ANY kind of WMD — including the chemical weapons WE sold them in the Iran/Iraq war… but Saddam used them all up gassing his own people at the end of that war. This is all a matter of history, so pretending you don’t know just makes you look… I’ll say uninformed to be polite.
Again, the Aruban people did not wish NH dead, nor do they support their corrupt LE anymore than we support our corrupt admin… except for those few here that DO support it.
i have found five people who were deceased but im not a psychic…i saw her buried under the steps of the light housse before i even knew there was a light house there…..most people who kill seem to leave a body where they always know it will be…not in the ocean where it could wash to shore….
you say the area of the light house is so exposed, i have never been there, are you saying it is impossible for her to be buried there…
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SM: She very well could have been there but I bet she was moved (klaasend)
I only know about the lighthouse from photos, but I mean this really two ways: the actual topography, and the fact that this area is so public and was mentioned by Joran, in one of his many stories, as the place he took Natalee – to see sharks. The other concern for me was the videos of the painted rocks. I thought those were right near the lighthouse, and I believe that her body was loaded in the van and taken from there by those people in the video. Are your visions of where she is right now, or from an earlier time? This is fascinating.
KrisG on February 16th, 2008 11:23 pm
Just to keep the pressure on Joran I wish Peter DeVries would bring assault charges against him for throwing the wine in his face.
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Hey KrisG!
U AND ME BOTH!!!!
ty for fillin’ me in on that Geraldo deal. LOL
I hear some good came out of
the wine throwing incident though…
Peter De Vries has a new sponsor…
They landed the Ernest & Julio Gallo account!
I wish De Vries would take that cork, and
shove it up an orifice of Joran’s choosing.
no, i saw the vision of the light house before any of the details came out….but the steps were wooden with spaces in between….i didnt know what the light house looked like until i looked it up…..i feel like she is still there…the other people i found, i didnt know the exact details…like the first man…he was elderly and had wandered off..i saw him in the back seat of a black car, slumped over, in a salvage yard..they found him the next day…just like i said…but i didnt know where the salvage yard was…..do you see what i mean….
always 1, I would think that it would be a good idea to have some honest person on Aruba check this out. There must be somebody who can do this, without police involvement. If she is there, I think the police know all about it. What would it hurt to have a look? I am not gifted in the vision thing, but this wouldn’t cost anything to do a little digging. Who will do it?
that would be great…some of the people i have seen, they have not located yet…there was a little girl in arkansas that was missing…i see her buried under three rocks in brown dirt that is the color of butterscotch….there are really tall trees to the west that are rounded and pointed at the top, we do not have trees like that in oklahoma….
sm are you from aruba…i was wondering when the bottom of the light house was painted green..in the earlier pictures it was not…in my vision i saw green the color of astro turf…but i thought natalee was wrapped in a green rug or tarp….
where do the real psychics see natalee ..i havent seen anything posted on this….
The “real” ones have seen Natalee in a variety of places. Kind of hard to believe when they all don’t agree, but it does not hurt to look. Any Arubans care to do a little digging?
BILL YOU RIGHT
BOYCUTT ARUBA!!!!
THEY DONT HAVE LIE DITECTOR,NO JURY NO NOTHING NO INVASTIGATION I MEAN REAL INVASTIGATION NOT SO CALLED QUESTIONING,AND HE ALWAYS WITH A LAWYER EVEN AT POLICE INTEROGATION,THAT A JOKE ,HE DOSENT HAVE TO ANSWER TO THEM ,THIS IS BULSHIT INVASTIGATION IF HE HAD TO BE INBVASTIGATED IN ANOTHER COUNTRY HE WAS GOING TO BE PRESURD AND TURTURED ,ARUBA DO NOT HAVE PROFESSIONAL POLICE AND CAN’T PROTECT ANYONE ,NO BODY NO CASE ,POUL VAN DER SLOOT JUDGE SAID,
#68…….everyone go to that website and read about the aruban date rapes postings….very interesting. also the comment about dennis jacobs telling dave holloway to “watch your drink”……interesting
[...] Scared Monkeys has attained a copy of the filing and to our surprise a Scared Monkeys post was used as an exhibit for the defence. The post by Scared Monkeys actually makes up pages 55 – 123. The post and what is Exhibit A-51 was written on February 16, 2008 entitled, “Scared Monkey’s Welcomes Bill O’Reilly & Geraldo Rivera to the Fold as they Finally Embrace the Aruba Boycott and Date Rape in Natalee Holloway Disappearance”. The full article can be read HERE. [...]
Now the world can know what happen to Natalee. The truth will hurt so get ready Aruba. The case may expose the cover up and people involved with some going to jail when its over.
I think the brothers deep down want the truth known. I ask everyone to pray to God for the light to shine into this case so all can see.
God Bless
Dearest Steve,
Im praying as hard as I can. Natalee will get her deserved Justice and aruba will sufer. Natalee is one of Gods angels and what they did to her as an Island is so wrong….Its disgusting. May God give your family peace.
[...] Aruba Boycott and Date Rape in Natalee Holloway Disappearance”. The full article can be read HERE. Not only was the post used, but comments as [...]
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