RSSCan It Be True after all This Time … Peter R. De Vries Solves the Natalee Holloway Case
It is being reported that Dutch Crime investigator Peter R. De Vries has solved the Natalee Holloway case. Beth Holloway is in the Netherlands and Aruban prosecutors are re-opening the case of Natalee Holloway.
A press release has been issued by Peter De Vries:
(click on document to enlarge)
UPDATE I: Video from Peter R. De Vries regarding new information and upcoming TV Show.
The Dutch television crime reporter, Peter R de Vries, says that he has solved the Natalee Holloway case.
Oranjestad – The Dutch television crime reporter, Peter R de Vries, says that he has solved the Natalee Holloway case. In recent weeks, he has been filming with a concealed camera on Aruba and this has, he says, clarified the facts behind the young woman’s disappearance.
Mr de Vries, who has made his information available to the Aruban Public Prosecutor’s Office, will not state who he believes is responsible for Ms Holloway’s disappearance. He says that that will be made clear in his television programme on Sunday.
UPDATE II: New and Different Evidence in the Natalee Holloway Case.
The statement in todays PR was the “mode that Natalee Died”
UPDATE III: Discussion of New Evidence in Natalee Holloway Case with Greta Van Susteren
UPDATE IV: PREVIEW VIDEO OF PETER DE VRIES TV SHOW
“Look what they have done to Natalee”
(Click on pic for video or go HERE)
This afternoon at 3 p.m. (GMT) Beth Twitty screened the most important fragments of the elaborate undercover camera operation which solved her missing daughter Natalee’s case. Dutch crime reporter Peter R. DeVries was by her side. Beth reacted deeply shocked by the pictures that proved Natalee was no longer alive.
In the meantime Peter R. de Vries has confirmed the death of the girl at 7 p.m. (GMT) on the noted news program NOS Journaal. Sunday he will reveal the undercover footage on Dutch television. (Peter R. De Vries)
UPDATE V: Holloway case solved, says tv journalist
Dutch tv crime journalist Peter R de Vries claims to have solved the mystery surrounding the disappearance of US teenager Natalee Holloway.
De Vries said he had used a hidden camera to answer most of the questions surrounding the girl’s disappearance. Holloway vanished while on holiday on the former Dutch colony of Aruba in May 2005.
Holloway’s mother Beth Twitty was in the Netherlands on Thursday to discuss the case with De Vries. ‘It was very emotional,’ the reporter told tv programme Hart van Nederland.
In a press release published on De Vries’ website, the Aruban justice ministry says the new information ‘may shed new light on the way Natalee Holloway died and the method by which her body disappeared.’ It says the office is currently investigating the ‘reliability and value’ of the information.
Joran Van der Sloot seems to be MIA. The unconfirmed reports are that Van der Sloot confessed to an un-named Aruban man.
Reporter were unable to find Van der Sloot at his Arnhem address. Van der Sloot and De Vries had a confrontation on another tv programme earlier this month which ended with Van der Sloot throwing a glass of wine at the reporter.
TV programme Nova says it has spoken to three different sources who claim that Van der Sloot has confessed to an un-named Aruban man that Natalee died in an accident and that he hid her body. The conversation was recorded, news agency ANP claims. Two brothers who have also twice been arrested in connection with Natalee’s disappearance were not involved, Nova says. (Dutch News)
UPDATE VI: Comments From Jossy Mansur Managing Editor of Diaro Regarding Peter R. De Vries Statements
Look for Jossy Mansur tomorrow night on the Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys radio.com.
It seems to be a secret recording made either in Holland or Aruba, in which Joran confesses that Natalee was murdered and describes what was done with the body. That much I have gathered from Dutch publications. They have quoted Mos as saying: “Now we have obtained new information that throw a new light on the case and how Natalee was murdered and how her body disappeared”. Further on, the publications point out that Joran in that recording seemed to have admitted to being the author of the deed.
The prosecution will probably reopen the case soon. (Jossy Mansur)
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Such a modest claim.
Well, I hope with all my heart that this is true.
God knows that Beth, Dave, Matt, and all the rest of the family have been through agony for so long … it would be wonderful for them to get answers.
But it’s one thing for this claim to be made, and another for there to be trials, convictions, and sentences.
Until then, the case remains open.
And the determination to boycott Aruba is as strong as ever.
Meanwhile, have any of the “usual suspects,” or anyone else, been re-arrested? I suspect that at least some of them are under surveillance.
Looks like Aruba’s favorite rapist/murderer is going to need a whole bottle of red. Not just a glass.
Nope, none have been arrested, at least not in the dutch news, that is.
Hell, it’s not even sure that Joran is actually the perp, maybe it’s somebody completly different, Peter R de Vries did not talk an murder, he just talked about the death off natalee.
And with that bottle, let’s also say ‘Here’s to Greta keeping her nose out of Aruba’. The less she makes possible witnesses feel intimidated – the better.
Oh Shat…did someone find Anita’s camera?
Well, ambiguity is setting in already.
This story, from MS-NBC, says that the info is a taped conversation between Joran and someone previously unknown to Aruban investigators, or something like that.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22933832/
I guess we’ll find out more on Sunday….
Tacopino berates deVries and the Arubans for acting “like clowns.”
That’s like PvdScum bad-mouthing the ethics of the legal profession….
I’m sorry to dash everyone’s hopes and of course I hope that this “new evidence” does convict the perps, but it simply doesn’t make sense.
It doesn’t make sense because police work doesn’t allow TV shows to run film while the police stand by and wait to arrest the suspects. So if there was true evidence, Joran would be back in handcuffs.
Yes, de Vries may have “something”, like a confession to a “friend” but it must not be enough since Joran hasn’t been arrested. Rather it must be something to try to overplay the US Super Bowl (since de Vries is waiting until Sunday) and it’s probably more a “If I Did It” (this is what I would have done) confession.
Joran said he wanted the case to go to trial, hopefully he just got his wish!
Rumours have it that Peter R de Vries has had an girl move in on Joran, thus exploiting his weak point the get him to confess his deeds in an house rigged with camera’s
And the beauty off it all is, that these methods are illigal for dutch/aruban police, but it’s not for Peter R de Vries and the best part, the police is allowed to use this footage in an courtroom.
To sum it up :
The police may not use these kind of methods but if it finds evidence like this, it may use it, even if it was obtained illigal by somebody else.
Just in Dutch Nova show a reporter told he heard three sources who told that an Aruban man had got in contact with Joran and realised it was the suspect in the NH-case. Supposedly he contacted PRdVries and handed him a tape or they together thought out a plan to get Joran confessing.
Result: a FULL BLOWN CONFESSION!!!
But if the “confession” wasn’t given under oath, is it admissible?
Of course, then we get back to the alleged distinction between a suspect and a witness….
Forgot to say: the man in a period of time had become a ‘friend’ of Joran.
The confession was that it was an accident and the 2 kalpoes were not involved!
Mmmm….whatever and wherever the info came from….let’s just hope it sticks and something comes of it for real.
I wouldn’t trust a word that comes from the mouth of Joran Van der Sloot, who already confessed – lest we forget, to THE KILLING of Natalee Holloway.
If the Aruban police dare try to yet again turn this into an “accident” there is just no way, that I’m buying that batch of lies, when Joran ALREADY CONFESSED to THE KILLING of Natalee, and that confession conveniently got erased, retracted and whatever else they did to it.
How does a victim go from being KILLED to “accidentally” dying?
Joran’s capacity for dishonesty and deceit is endless, as is his capacity for cruelty, along with that of his father – since both of them “know” what happened, but don’t seem to feel like talking about “it” right now.
This entire case, the manner that the Holloway family has been treated, the manner in which Natalee – the victim has been treated, the human rights violations, and the shameful cruelty this family was put through, makes the conduct of those who perpetuated this insidiousness so immoral, and criminally corrupt, every single one of them involved in tormenting this child and her family should all have prison sentences for the numerous violations they all allowed to be inflicted upon this child, her family and all their loved ones.
This poor child, Natalee – deserves integrity, her truth being told and justice.
I only hope that what DeVries has is TRUTH, and not more filthy Van der Sloot lies to help Joran with his many “get out of jail” free cards.
It’s amazing that in this day and age, integrity, honor and justice have become so removed from our human experience, that we barely know what it looks like anymore. But I know I saw it sailing only recently, on a boat out upon the sea, where a group of courageous, honorable individuals persist in summoning from the ocean, what the human heart in Aruba was incapable of giving to a brutally victimized child and her beautiful family.
If Peter De Vries has something of substance, that aides Beth, Dave, Matt and all their loved ones in healing from this selfish brutality inflicted upon all of them, I surely hope it is Natalee’s truth and not more filth from the darkest corners of hell meant to only inflict more pain on Beth and Dave, and crush Natalee’s truth.
It seems inconceivable to me, that Joran Van der Sloot is capable of yielding any truths. Let’s hope that what DeVries has will expose the TRUTH of what this poor child and her family have suffered at the hands of freely roaming evil monsters in Aruba.
Ok this so called sun night broadcast will we in America the home of Natalee be able to see this?
Just in Pauw & Witteman-show a piece of the coming PRdeVries-show.
Beth after seeing the hidden-cam stuff etc. Shocked…: “Look what they’ve done to Natalee… Look what they’ve done to our country… Look what they’ve done Natalee….” (Did they maybe do something to the body of Natalee after she was killed?”
If we have any reliable posters from Aruba … can you tell us if the police there have been seen searching any areas on land?
And is there any unusual activity at the van der Scum and/or Kalpoe homes? Or elsewhere?
I can’t imagine that authorities on Aruba and in the Netherlands aren’t at the very least subjecting all persons suspected of being involved to covert surveillance at this point.
Then again, so much of what has gone on is beyond the ability of anyone to imagine….
Peter R. de Vries is a guest in the dutch program ‘Pauw & Witteman’. A short video of Natalee’s mother was shown. In this video she says: “Look what they have done. Look what they have done to Natalee.”
I want to know more now!
Accident?
I don’t think so. Joran didn’t even call 911 for help. And the only reason to get rid of Natalee’s body would be to hide evidence of a crime.
—–
Joran, I believe you killed Natalee.
No, I don’t buy the accident excuse.
#976
http://tinyurl.com/2nmatm
What next?
New clues in Holloway case
Published: Thursday 31 January 2008 19:05 UTC
Last updated: Thursday 31 January 2008 19:05 UTC
Oranjestad – Justice officials on Aruba say they have new clues in the Natalee Holloway case. Although the Aruban Public Prosecutor’s Office is giving no information about the clues, which have come from the crime reporter Peter R de Vries, it believes that they can shed fresh light on how Natalee Holloway died and how her body disappeared.
The investigation into the disappearance of Ms Holloway was closed in December 2006, when the Aruban police let it be known that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute Joran van der Sloot and two accomplices.
Mr de Vries, who says that he has solved the Holloway case mostly with the use of concealed cameras, is refusing to state who he believes was responsible for the murder.
bring it on
Clip of a shocked Beth on the site of PRdeVries after seeing the new material.
http://www.peterrdevries.com/quote-beth.htm
#16 Pearl…you are so right on… Now Joran will try to play the “accidental death” card instead of the “murder card”. He still thinks he is in control of everything…his house of cards is folding/falling.
He probably told the 2K’s I will play it out that you both had nothing to do with Natalee’s death if you agree with me that my story is the truth, I accidentally killed her….
He is a habitual liar… I don’t believe him
either.
Sporter your time is running out..
#5 too late Greta has her toes in the sand already… too bad… She is such a downer…Maybe we should send her a box of Kleenex for her tears for when they take her sporter boy away…her and Anita can have a good cry.
http://www.peterrdevries.nl/tekst/extra-quote-beth.htm
Just released…(23.45 dutch time)
Translation is as follows:
——————————————–
Natalee Holloway deceased – Mother in shock
This afternoon Beth Twitty has seen the most important parts of the hidden camera actions by Peter R de Vries in his studio. Beth was deeply shocked, because the images revealed/confirmed that Natalee has deceased.
In the meantime Peter R. de Vries has confirmed the death of natalee to the Dutch news broadcast.
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hope to be any helpfull with it
I honestly do not think I’ve ever been in such anticipation for information. No TV show cliffhanger, sports game outcome, or other news story has caused such captivation for me.
Hopefully Joran will not pull a “it was just a lie” crap again. He appears to like that story (yes I lied, but am telling the truth now).
MUST be that there is ohysical evidence that has to be verified…which would explain the delay. I mean, if the police are going to pressure the K2s or others with this new info to corraberate the facts, that will take a day or two.
Or…could be the location of Natalee’s body is now known and must be retreived before reopening the case or telling the who ball of wax to the public.
Either way, this is so exciting and I pray it is not going to be a dead end. With Beth in the Netherlands..this cannot be small stuff, must be rather BIG.
This was posted on the inside forum:
From http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/
Dutch TV channel SBS 6 just reported that there are strong rumours that Joran van der Sloot just confessed to the murder. Neighbours in Arnhem, where Van der Sloot studies law haven’t seen him at all the last few weeks.
The Aruban Justice department is reporting that arrests will be made soon and apparently de Vries managed to get a hidden camera confession out of van der Sloot. The rumour is that van der Sloot claims it was an accident.
De Vries definitively stated that Natalee Holloway is dead and that he knows how she died and what happened to the body. Natalee’s mother, Beth Twitty is reportedly flying back to the U.S. shortly.
Gee, I guess all the funds Aruba shelled out to investigate this case over the years must be into the $millions, ya think? I wonder how Joran and his family plan to pay Aruba back…hmmmmm that’s one hefty lil’ tab if ya ask me!
Dear Justice,
Joran hasn’t been seen for weeks? How long since he forced an unexpected, airborn wine tasking on television? Wonder why he’d have gone into his little hiding place already if this news broke today? Hmmm….
Oh bother! The Superbowl no longer has much interest compared to this…and yes, the Australians DO have the toughest football game (or craziest), but I’m not even going to argue American vs. European football ;>) Who cares compared to THIS?
From the Netherlands, I just saw crime reporter de Vries in a Dutch TV program where he explained that he and a small crew of 6 to 8 guys (members from his own TV Show) have used hidden cameras here in the netherlands aswell as on the Dutch Antilles.
He wouldn’t say what has been filmed or who ( he is saving this information for his own TV Show) but he seems pretty sure about himself.
Vanity is no stranger to this reporter but he does his work thorough and with determination.
Maybe it’s some consolance to the parents of Natalee Holloway that the Dutch government has been heavily critized by an official European Union study group for the ‘atrocious circumstances’ in the prison on the Dutch Antilles where VDS will undoubtedly make new ‘friends’ whether he will like it or not.
Why wait until Sunday if this is such “breaking news”? Is it for the $???
Something does not seem right here.
Natalee Holloway deceased – Mother in shock
This afternoon Beth Twitty has seen the most important parts of the hidden camera actions by Peter R de Vries in his studio. Beth was deeply shocked, because the images revealed/confirmed that Natalee has deceased.
In the meantime Peter R. de Vries has confirmed the death of natalee to the Dutch news broadcast.
*******************************
What images revealed confirmed Natalee was deceased? Do they mean when Beth watched the hidden video tape of Joran confessing to someone that Natalee was dead, confirmed she was?
Aruba will have to do something in regard to bringing charges against Joran, after all he is the suspect in Natalee’s dissapearance/murder. They cannot dog and pony it this time!!
Jossy, looking forward to your report on this…:o)
#35 Carol… Seems right to me “Sporter spilling the beans”… I bet he is sitting on the can right now!!
Justice for Natalee!!
Paulus: Joran, we have tried everything to get you out of this. It is destroying Aruba. You need to take full responsibility for this one as I am an adult and would be locked away for a long time.
Joran: But Pappa, if I confess, I may get 15 years! I wasn’t alone AS YOU KNOW! Why should I take a year when you and your buddies did most/all of the damage?
Paulus: Son, confess that it was an accident. I will arrange with the Aruban courts to let you off easy. You may get a year or so. You were a minor…we can get you out in a year or so.
Joran: But Pappa, how do I explain how you disappearred her body? How do I explain that I did it when I am not even sure what you did with her?
Paulus: ….oh….let me talk with the folks at AHATA to see how we can spin this to sound somewhat plausible. I will call you back.
md
I wonder if Greta will be broadcasting from Anita and Paulus’s home this evening? Would not doubt it.
God bless you Beth and Dave.
If Joran hasn’t been seen in a couple weeks, that about times out to that wine throwing incident doesn’t it?
If he has not been seen, then is he in hiding? Or has someone taken him out for some reason?
Where is Joran?
#40 Minnesota… So right you are… Sporter is coming up to the plate with his plea of “accidental death”… LIAR
I think the higher ups were getting tired of Aruba being the target of bad publicity. This “thing” (murder of Natalee) was not going away and it looked like it never would. They have felt the setback of tourism already. How long could they continue to cover that sociopaths butt!!
Peter has told both the Aruban prosecutor and Natalee’s mother
his information.
Peter has given the info to the most important people.
Yes, we would like to know but Peter HAS told the people who need to know.
Papa Sloot has to be sweating boatloads right about now!
Mos and De Vries
http://tinyurl.com/3ddwth
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa118/Observer00000007/prosecutor2.jpg
UPDATE VI: Comments From Jossy Mansur Managing Editor of Diaro Regarding Peter R. De Vries Statements
Look for Jossy Mansur tomorrow night on the Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys radio.com.
It seems to be a secret recording made either in Holland or Aruba, in which Joran confesses that Natalee was murdered and describes what was done with the body. That much I have gathered from Dutch publications. They have quoted Mos as saying: “Now we have obtained new information that throw a new light on the case and how Natalee was murdered and how her body disappeared”. Further on, the publications point out that Joran in that recording seemed to have admitted to being the author of the deed.
The prosecution will probably reopen the case soon. (Jossy Mansur)
RED
UPDATE V from FP:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/01/31/can-it-be-true-after-all-this-time-peter-r-de-vries-solves-the-natalee-holloway-case/#comment-820434
Joran Van der Sloot seems to be MIA. The unconfirmed reports are that Van der Sloot confessed to an un-named Aruban man.
RED
I think if the body was in aruba Beth would be on her way, paulass must be sweating some killer jew jew beans about now !!! urin well he was flushed long ago where ever urin is I bet you could’nt get a nail up his ass with a jack hammer !!!
If the boat still searches in the days to come then she must still be in the water
Sporter you can run but you can’t hide… turn yourself in!!
If this is on tape then he knew he was being taped and this is a setup. I notice they are throwing the word accident out there. This was no accident. An accident can be explained. An entire island doesn’t coverup a crime because of an accident. And for Joran to say the Kalpoes weren’t involved is just BS. Since when did he ever let the Kalpoes off the hook. Something doesn’t smell right here. I want to hear more information from John Q. Kelly. JMO.
Oh urin, Come out and play
Just waiting for justice.
That’ll teach Joran to throw wine in someone’s face, not to mention losing his temper around young ladies. I hope Joran gets what he deserves, and then some.
Poor Beth. She looks quite ill in the video. Justice and Peace for Beth and Dave and the family.
molly in houston
Beth says in that clip….Look what THEY’ve done….if Beth has seen anything from that hidden camera then is THEY significant?
For those who have not heard it, Beth says “Look what they’ve done to Natalee…..look what they’ve done….to Natalee, to their country….”(and then she is asked, To you? and Beth does not answer that) she goes on to say again “Look what they’ve done to Natalee.”
Taco Joe, what advice would you give your cleint now? Run Joran Run!!!!
#51 SAN, Yep, I think Joran has been coached/versed very well in “letting the cat out of the bag”…telling someone that it was an “accidental death”. I would not be suprised if this was all set up for him to confess. Aruba needs their tourism back and had to make a deal with Joran to serve a year or two.
If this is not a setup, he will be squelling like the pig he is and denying it.
But where is the Sporter, is he planning on attending the Super Bowl????
The old fashioned way down south was a fast horse and a rope. Not the best method for sure, but it seems to have worked just fine on occasion. Giddyap!
Sharon:
“Aruba needs their tourism back and had to make a deal with Joran to serve a year or two.” If that’s true, who would want to go to a place where $$$ means more than a person’s life?
BOYCOTT has taken on a new meaning today.
To all foreign stock investors: if you own shares in any company who is heavilly weighted with assets and business in ARUBA……sell at tomorrow’s market open. Business profits are about to suck big time.
I’ll just bet annual reports will contain a footnote that profits dried up due to “Tourist Disinterest issues.” Short the bastards! Both hands.
My guess only: The confession happened some time ago and de Vries got the person to go back and get the confession again from Joran or the person simply relates the confession to de Vries.
From the look on Beth’s face, what they (and do notice she says “they”) did to Natalee was neither a simple burial or a dump at sea. I’m going to guess again that it could have to do with the crematorium, or at least (I hate to say it) cutting up her body. Notice it doesn’t seem to relieve Beth that she can at least take Natalee home, causing me to believe that maybe that’s no longer possible.
I do believe that it is possible that it was an “accident” in that either the Ghb killed Natalee or Joran in his anger killed Natalee. Both could be described as “accidental” but under the law (at least in the USA) it wouldn’t fly that way.
What worries me the most is Aruba’s 2.5 year stall to arrest Joran. They knew all along at least as of June 11th, 2005 when he confessed. Maybe they couldn’t use that confession, but did they really have to defame Beth and Natalee and make up these wild idiotic stories? They certainly aren’t sure to do the right thing now. If fact it would be much like them to start making excuses, lock Joran in a hospital for a few months and then declare he is the delicious sporter that he always was.
That Natalee died by the stupidity or rage of a boy in Aruba is one thing.
That that boy, his friends and his family then covered up her death is yet another.
But most unforgivable is all the people who knew in Aruba (including Paulus and Anita because I’m totally convinced they had every reason under the sun to know)and the government and police of Aruba allowed the cover-up while Beth and Dave suffered untold grief and allowed the hideous stories about Natalee and Beth to hit international airwaves while they KNEW it was all false and only used this to collect American tourists dollars. I could NEVER go to back to Aruba if this turns out to be the case – not even if Aruba now does the right thing – which I doubt they will.
Since TV and air programs rely on common newsfeed sources, I just wonder which one will carry the story first with a sidebar how a defenseless American southern mother was repeatedly insulted by foreign government officials, diss’d, and was lied to in her efforts to find out what happened to her missing daughter. I just hope key reporters and journalists remind viewers and listeners how Aruban corruption amounted to justice inaction and their desire to only protect their failing tourism interests.
Aruba must be exposed for their inhumane treatment of an American citizen visiting their country. The world awaits proper reporting. FOX? CNN? MSNBC? Who is stepping up?
I can’t wait to watch the 11 o’clock newscasts tonight. Natalee will be splashed into everyone’s home again. Whether there is an outcry for justice is unimportant. The silent majority will have made their judgement.
ARUBA is finished.
Good gawd, the Aruban spin has started! Look at this over at http://equivocationnation.blogspot.com/2008/02/natalee-holloway-update-3-drug-suicide.html
where now there’s a claim of a drug overdose and suicide! See, it wasn’t Joran’s fault at all. Poor little Joran witnessed Natalee’s death as apparently (according only to Joran the psychopath) that he witnessed Natalee overdose on drugs – with a hint that she was trying to commit suicide.
“WE” are the reason justice will prevail !!! Every one’s voice was herd around the world and in two and a half years no one ever let up !!! urin had a cloud following him every second of every day, urin must of times felt like exploding trying to keep that secret inside(kind of like being constipated really bad) I just cant wait to see if the boat continues with its search.
Papa Sweating Bullets once told Dave “I have to PROTECT my son”. Well, well, well Papa, tell me, was it worth it? Was it worth pulling your entire family and the lives of all of your son’s families down and the entire island of Aruba for that matter into the murky ‘sloot’ with you?
ABC is advertising that this info will be on 20/20 Monday night 9 pm est
I wonder what the 2K’s are thinking now? I think Joran cleared their names in his confession because they knew that it was murder and Joran is buying their silence by excluding them from the “accident”.
Remember folks Joran runs that household, Pappa Paulus and Anita. His fits of rage leave them so helpless to fight back. They should have called Nanny 911 a long time ago.
Joran is probably cursing his father and mother right now, going through a meltdown, I don’t want to go to jail now and service time, Momma can you please go for me!!
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4222253&page=1
Flipping over the handle bars of your
bicycle, is an accident.
Putting on two different shoes
to take a friggin’ walk lookin like
bozo the clown, is an accident!
Zipping up one’s
‘JOHNSON’ in one’s
fly is an accident.
(right paulus?)
NATALEE FALLING AND HITTING HER HEAD RUNNING FROM
DEEPAK’S CAR, OR BEING PUSHED AT THE SLOOT DUMP,
trying to desperately outrun 3 Sex Predators trying to rape her… THATTTTT IS NO F’N
ACCIDENT!
(they hurt her so badly with that fall,
*** I THINK *** one of those jackasses with a
gun, put her out of her misery) *FIND THE GUN.
(i think) That is one of the biggest reasons
for keeping the body from her family. You REALLY CAN’T UNDO THAT, or EXPLAIN IT AWAY…
…and ja! dat is de truth, Sporter. Ya really
need to stop treating girls like that, bro.
Damn sam ittt, everytime I think about it, I get a bloodrush to my ears, & they overheat. It really chaps my f’n knickers
how they mistreated her so!
Screw Aruba, I BEAT YOU LIKE GORILLA.
Marina Gasolina
Bondo Do Role
-j4n
I only hope that this new confession of “lies” by Joran is not backed by the Aruban government that “Natalee overdosed from drugs on her own”. It was not Joran’s doing and therefore it was accidental death.
Joran would say, I know I should not have paniced and burried her but what could I do, she overdosed on drugs.
Its Aruba’s game to place the fault on the VICTIM and that being NATALEE.
Stay tune lets see how they play this hand.
Poor Beth, I wonder if on the tape that Joran blames Natalee for overdosing on drugs, like it was her fault and not mine.
This must have been horrible for Beth to take in if this is the case. Blaming the victim again.
Peter on John Gibson when asked if the information led to anyone other than Joran being involved….Peter said, Why not?
Hmmm….We all agree, I think, that there is no way Paulus has no idea what happened to Natalee. Anita too. I know they are afraid of Joran, but that’s good enough reason to believe Joran didn’t have to hide anything from them.
According to ABC, unless they are not quoting recent remarks and didn’t say so, John Q Kelly has no faith in this new stuff going anywhere.
Even though I hate Greta, I just watched part of her talking to JQK. I may be mistaken but I thought I heard him say that the story indicates that the body may not be able to be recovered.
Could this also be a bogus ploy to get the Persistence to leave the search area?
This road looks soooo familiar. Yes, there is the same turn in the road; the road sign is in exactly the same place. It must be Déjà Vu.
Joran confesses! Oh really, and what version is this? Could it be version 291 or 292?
B.S., all B.S., Joran has told a thousand people a thousand different versions, and each version portrays him as an innocent bystander, a helpful little troll to be sure.
So where will we be when the dust settles? We will Probable right back where we were before we got our hopes up again, and again, and again, and again.
B.S., just B.S.
Jerry
Will someone please search the landfill?
Jerry
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Justice for Natalee, nothin’ less, dude.
Yayyyyyy!
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I’m starting to think this is all a ploy, too. How easy it would be to claim the body can’t be recovered and just let it all go away. I’m not saying Peter is in on it, but someone may have known Joran was being taped and so it was all staged to use Peter to get their way.
I guess time will tell.
I anxiously await the details of the story. I am a bit hesitant in thinking about what JQK said regarding the body not being recoverable because of the manner of disposal. The timing of this…is someone afraid of what the Persistence may find…are they wanting the ocean search called off??? Sure, Joran could lie once again and say the body was disposed of in some other manner thinking the ocean search would come to a halt. We need the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth…we will never get that from Aruba.
Does anybody else feel like this tornado of media frenzie is really manipulative of people’s compassion? I feel so bad for Natalee and her family. Perhaps if there really was a true confession, which could be used to put the little putz away for a long time, they should have put him behind bars before starting the crazed media coverage…again. And, it’s giving the Aruban authorities time to do what they do best: spin it back to the true victim. I’m with Bob…giddyup indeed…and any one of our five horses could do the job!
78. TJ. I saw the promo for 20/20 also. I’m hoping they’ll have DeVries there. I agree that it’s disturbing to think Natalee’s remains are unrecoverable. Remember though that no matter what Joran says, some, if not all of it, is going to be a lie. Could be why Hans Mos is taking this info under advisement and pursuing the investigation further. Otherwise, Joran will go into court showing how he lies all the time. They need to validate this new info somehow.
Bullshit! ABC News is reporting that Persistence has failed. Read this:
“Police and even army units have combed the island looking for clues to Holloway’s disappearance. The most recent search was carried out by oil drilling teams who volunteered their help. They used sonar to search the deep water off of Aruba’s coast, but failed to find a trace of Natalee.”
As Yogi would say….”it ain’t over ’till it’s over”.
81. Bob
I read that too, and yes it is BS, where do they get their info?? Maybe someone at ABC needs to read the blog from the Persistence.
#81 – I agree – Bullshit!! Would like to ask ABC if they have failed, then why is their website stil posting current search info? See below.
http://www.nholloway.blogspot.com/
XV. Aruba
Update: Thurs 31-Jan 1330 hrs
The Persistence is currently working in the same general area as the last several days. Winds 25 kts with 6-10ft side seas. More later
Thurs 31-Jan 1040 hrs
The last several days saw outstanding progress in what was expected to be the roughest part of the search area. Last night, we learned why the local fishermen nicknamed this area “don’t go there”. The seas were a rather innocuous 2-3ft with pleasant 10kt breeze. Within an hour, the seas exploded into a 12-14ft torrent with 35kt sustained winds. After a few hours battling side seas the search team brought the sonar on deck amidst crashing waves of green water pouring over the back deck. We found an approximately 265ft long wreck lying upright on the seabed which is an eerie testament of this area’s volatile ferocity.
See link from website the Persistence crew is posting a daily journal. When THIS website says they are finished and can’t find anything, then I will believe it. They are the ones searching – not the
Here’s my take on it…..
Beth says, “LOOK what THEY have done to Natalee.
She did not say LISTEN she said LOOK! We know Joran is into pictures and 2K into video. Suppose Peter de Vries had an insider that gained Joran’s trust and he pulled out video or images of the crime?
Also, the word THEY is significant which could imply J2K or perhaps involvement from Paulus. We all know by now the fat ugly pig he comes home to every night. He may very well have been involved in the commission of this crime because we all know Miss Piggie was out of town the night of the crime.
This crime was no accident either!
Too bad for Anita; she is fat, ugly and has a monsterous murderer for a son. The younger ones are FUBAR too. They have no chance to grow up normal in that household.
I have always thought that they cremated her body due to the fact that a man was found murdered right after she went missing. In Dave’s book he said that the murdered man had worked at the crematory so that makes me think that since he wasn’t in on their murder then he was killed to shut him up since he may have been the only outsider to have information. Since their saying her body will probably never be recovered I think the crematory is a very reasonable way her body could have been disposed. I hope they finally have these murdering creeps, They were guilty of something or they wouldn’t have been telling lie after lie.
#85
I am afraid that you might be right. The pricks are all pretty confident that no body will be found. The only way to do that would be to totally destroy the body. I have always felt that the punishment should fit the crime and I do not believe that they intended to murder her but after all the shit that has gone on I would not loose any sleep if every one of them involved had a fatal ACCIDENT!
Greta still says she is inclined to believe joran,but if Natalee had been her child I bet she
would not be so inclined.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
P S I say lets sell Greeta one of the HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS BRIDGES.
I just wonder which one of Joran’s 30 stories Greta is inclined to believe?
Greta believes all the stories that do not implicate her little honey Joran
LATEST NATALEE FOX VIDEOS
GRETA OTR
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxNyjzzarqs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_hzlD83zZM
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Shep Smith – FOX REPORT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-n9moEbc4
Did we hear any more about the item that they
recovered last week? The item that required a
dive and forensics testing? Could it
have been photographed to show to the family, as
proof of something? I’m just askin’. I haven’t
heard bo diddly squat
about it.
-j4n
I think this is a better translation
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYwDO8I_9n0
Seems promising! Hope he can solve this!
THINGS I AM ALSO WONDERING ABOUT:
Could Peter have snagged a rape video?
Would Joran Vandersloot, the murdering, gang-raping, innocent female beating, ghoul of
Aruba be so sick in his cabeza to
hang onto something like that as
a souvenir???
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In order to confirm her dead, it would seem
to me that they would have to have DNA EVIDENCE
of some sort to autheticate such a claim.
No?
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“His arrogance will be his downfall!” -Shango
Boy Shango, you weren’t just friggin whistlin’
dixie WUZ YA, DUUUUUDE?
Hey J-Bo, u can get the finger, YA SICK 8itch.
HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY EARLY, you mother.
YOU’VE BEEN >PUNK’D.
Enjoy the rest of your broadcast day! -j4n
Why aren’t you boycotting Peter R de Vries as he is Dutch? Or do you boycot some Dutch things/people, but not all? A bit confusing…..
Also, why is no one questioning the fact that De Vries is making you all wait until Sunday? Surely, if he really did have a confession on tape Joran would have been arrested immediately?!
I’m not saying Joran didn’t do it, but I’m Dutch and have known De Vries and his dodgy methods for a lot longer than you have and I’m (to say the least) a bit sceptical!
And just one more comment for some of you out there in Scary Land. If this really was an accident, I bet all of you calling Joran and many others a rapist and murderer must feel pretty stupid. I bet you’d wish you had waited for some real evidence before calling all kinds of people horrible names…
btw. here is the info about Aruba & Dutch Antilles
Dutch Antilles
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/country_profiles/4547635.stm
Aruba
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/country_profiles/3975701.stm
An update about Joran van der Sloot, he has been spotted this night partying in a club in Arnhem (the place he lives). http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/joranbounce.jpg this picture has been taken in the club “Manhattan” around 3.30 am this night. Seems like all this stuff doesnt really bothers him.
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SM: Sociopaths are usually with little remorse.
Joran went to a party last night after hearing about the ‘new evidence’.
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/
rtlnieuws/2008/02_februari/01/binnenland/
0201_1125_joran_feest_ondanks_onthulling.xml
Where are you 1906?
I sincerely hope he nails Joran. However, do not get your hopes up too high. Peter deVries is the same person who claimed last year he solved the murder on JFK. The 2 hours show appeared to be a reconstruction of events providing no new evidence.
On the other hand i am also afraid “the confession” of Joran is a setup by Joran himself. Either to play the accident-card as mentioned before, or to mislead with the purpose to damage the press.
I find it hard to believe he confesses to a stranger after shutting his mouth for over 2 years. However, i do hope the show Sunday will provide hard evidence..
joran can be found at a local club in arnhem called manhattan
Dear #51,
The “accident” in Joran’s mind is the fact things did not go as planned and he was about to get CAUGHT this time! End of story there.
As for Beth stating “they”, that depends on alot. Often times when speaking of an individual, we English speakers (probably other languages, but I cannot vouch for that) use “they” rather than a 1st person pronoun. I mean, if somebody didn’t know a man’s name and saw him commit a crime, this person may respond to police by saying,”they did this or that and then they ran away”. Make sense? Then again, certainly possible she did mean more than one person.
Cannot WAIT to find out. On pins and needles here.
As for the poster who said Beth would not be going to Aruba if Nat’s body was there to be found, not so sure. If it IS possible it can be found (hesitate to say “she” will be found because it is only her body…she’s in a better place), no doubt Beth will wait for that time. Why go down to that pit of hell and wait and wait for the outcome?
I am so glad Joran, mom and pops are not speaking out this time. Tells LOADS! Last time Joran was re-arrested mom and pop Sluts came out asap and defended their precious. Not this time ;>)
correction!! On my last post I meant to say the poster who said Beth WOULD be going to Aruba if Nat’s body was there… I need to proof-read before posting obviously :>)
Remember that Greta’s mind is clouded by the shroud of Xenu. I won’t speculate till I hear what they have on hand.
Meanwhile Yoran is partying. See pictures on: http://www.geenstijl.nl
He is not bothered a bit by the news.
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SM: That’s because one has to have a conscience to have feeling or emotion.
When one is void of concern … that makes one a sociopath.
Tommorrow is Groundhog Day. How ironic that it comes as we are reliving hope again that some new potential evidence has surfaced to solve this case.
How can such EVIL ppl exist on this earth. Look at Beths face and hands..OMG its to horrible. For goodness sake, please God, stay with Beth and wrap your arms around her. I wish someone was there to hold her….I cant take anymore pain for her…Its just to CRUEL…SHAME ON YOU PEOPLE…SHAME ON YOU…BUYCOTT ARUBA YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.
just heared on Dutch radio.
it has been sold to CNBC (?) who is going to air it on monday (Dutch SBS6 is airing it on sunday)
JQK on Today show discussing case with Matt Lauer.
ARG! Greta! Naive queen. If she’d been young and hot vacationing in Aruba she would have been a perfect target for Joran.
Well as usual, some Monkeys are ahead of me. As I was thinking about the case last night it came to me that perhaps (depending on the timing) this is merely a ruse to get Team Persistence off their task.
How does everything fit with one of Joran’s “friends” sleeping with his parents and them suddenly moving off the Island? Well unless that’s the person to whom Joran confessed?
How many lies had Joran already told? Why should we believe him now?
Interestingly enough the ABC article ends with: “Twitty is in Holland chasing another lead that Kelly declined to detail.”
If Kelly thinks this story is bogus, it’s probably bogus.
It seems that the ‘evidence’ of De Vries is (for now) no reason to make any arrests…
And apparently Joran sees no reason to run & hide…or leave the country..
You know when Beth said, “They” she could be referring to Joran and Paulus and not 2k, but I doubt it. More likely, THEY means J2K and Paulus too.
http://tinyurl.com/2kdh5z
Today AM 1/2/08
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22931157#22949037
If Beth’s reaction is any indicator; I think I heard the fat lady start to clear her throat.
Endemoll, the producer of the show of Peter R. de Vries has sold broadcast rights to CNBC. The show will be aired on monday.
NEWS:
I’ll translate it:
The OM (public prosecuter I guess?) has admitted Joran van der Sloot did a confession. Hans Mos confirmed Peter R de Vries has uncovered an essential missing part.
Source (Dutch though) http://www.nieuwnieuws.nl/archives/binnenland/2008/02/om_bevestigt_bekentenis_joran.html
I must reiterate my main point:
Until Paulus Van Der Sloot is shown on the front page of scaredmonkeys.com, in handcuffs, being hauled off to jail, I will not believe any of what is going on.
Joran can go from 15 years to six months for disposing of a corpse by taking the path he is taking. Everyone agrees. AHATA agrees to write a big check to Joran to take the rap.
By the way….has anyone seen the mass of AHATA posters from the crisis management PR team??? They seem to be a little quiet right now.
MD
Remember when Greta said to Joe Taco, “Tell Joran I said to work hard in school.”
Well Greta, soon school will be out for your little darling!
latest news is that joran has been arrested this morning near the roossendaalste straat in arnhem.
This has not been confirmed yet
You all know how I love to speculate! When there are unanswered questions the mind starts to want to answer them with speculations. So…
There isn’t any way, in my thinking, a confession would serve any good to solve this case unless that confession contained elements the cops have been holding secret that now Joran has let slip. So what might such a detail be?
Well, JQK says Beth told him what Peter had. And JQK says from that information the body is unrecoverable. So are we back to No body, No crime?
I’m thinking back to June 10ish 2005, when it was reported a body had been found…which then it was said was misinformation. But what if a body was found at that time? And they have been keeping this a secret until someone let slip the actualy location which the body was found? And what if Joran let that slip?
We have wondered many times how Dompig could say what Natalee died from without a body to examine. O’Rielly claimed to have that information as correct. And Van der Straaten said HE’d seen the evidence Natalee was dead. Charges were made that resulted in J2K being jailed based a crime of some form of murder. Did they have proof by the time they arrested J2K in June that Natalee was in fact dead? Did they already have a body?
J2K were also arrested on suspicion of holding Natalee against her will. So was Paulus, if I’m not mistaken. If there was a body found, then did the body show signs of being restrained physically?
I don’t know….maybe I’m giving ALE too much credit for being able to hold onto secret information this long, and in thinking maybe they really did care to solve this case. But if they did have a body long ago but it was washed clean of DNA except for any sort Joran may have put on her via his summation of the night Natalee -who could not speak for herself- ‘willingly’ engaged in, they would need more to prove he did the ultimate deed of killing and getting rid of her body. They would need him to say something that has not been made public, such as the real location which they found her body.
Then what of JQK’s remark that the body was unrecoverable? What did he actually say on Greta? Lawyers are tricky!
Joran went to a party last night after hearing about the ‘new evidence’.
http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuws/binnenland/articleview/)/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/
2008/02_februari/01/binnenland/0201_1125_joran_feest_ondanks_onthulling.xml
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Joran is the type that would be sucking down his last shot at the bar while they click the handcuffs on him.
He has no common sense…
Wang,,,you should go back and read the posts. Many of us questioned why the wait until Sunday.
As for boycotting the Dutch, no those who travel are boycotting Aruba…there is a few miles between them. Also, it only seems to be when the Dutch authorities stick their noses into Aruba that Aruban authorities to ANYTHING.
Oh yes…if this WAS an accident, which I truly doubt…why would our view of Joran change? He CHOSE to dispose of/hide a body and let a greiving mother, father, brother, friends, and other relatives wonder for nearly 3 years what happened to their loved one?
By the way, where the hell is “Scary Land”? Is that another name for Aruba?
In closing…do you know what a Wang is in English? Give you a hint…it’s below the belt and above the knees.
#93 Carpe… I don’t think they snagged a video of Natalee’s rape otherwise Joran and 2K’s would be immediately arrested and Beth would have not held up as she did in the quick film clip of her response. I believe her comments were in regard to hearing what description of what Joran said happened. Him painting an accident.
As it stands I am wondering why they have not been rearrested based on this confession tape of Jorans.
They are using Jorans verbal confession as evidence.
#94: “And just one more comment for some of you out there in Scary Land. If this really was an accident, I bet all of you calling Joran and many others a rapist and murderer must feel pretty stupid. I bet you’d wish you had waited for some real evidence before calling all kinds of people horrible names…”
Hey Wang, if it turns out Joran admitted disposing of Natalee’s body (to cover up her “accidental” death, because goodness knows he wouldn’t want anyone to find out about that), I bet some of you people who claimed Natalee was a drugged-out runaway, or that Beth was a crazy woman who snuck her daughter off Aruba in a Medjet to cover up her drug abuse, will wish you’d waited for some real evidence before calling Natalee and her grieving mother all kinds of horrible names.
Apparently, the prosecutor Hans Mos views the confession of Joran as his ‘coming out’. According to Mos, the story of De Vries is ‘very convincing’. Furthermore Mos said that ‘should Joran lie about this, he is hanging himself in a very dumb way’which Mos doesn’t believe since he is of the opinion that ‘Joran is a very smart boy’. Mos believes that ‘finally, the truth is coming out’.
So if Joran portrays the body of Natalee not being ever recovered, is he saying that they cremated her?
waterboy I’m still here. Was busy doing flyers.
Wass up…..???
96: 3T’s Terrible Twinkie Trio.
I’d like to get them on a Rugby field.
The Blue Oyster has nothing on them.
Do you think the Village People will accept them at the YMCA?
FYI,
Should Joran have confessed that the death of Natalee was an accident and there is no evidence to prove otherwise, he could be convicted for involuntary manslaughter (dood door schuld) which, pursuant to Dutch law (and I’m not sure whether it is the same under Aruban law), has a maximum sentence of 9 months.
Disposing of the body is in the Netherlands punished with a maximum sentence of 2 years in prison.
Keep in mind that Jorans sociopath behavior is not like yours or mine. Something does not filter the same way in his brain.
He feels that it’s the world according to Joran.
This makes him have a false sense of security … that if he says it and he believes it then the world will also believe it.
He does not realize how defected and crippled his logic is to the rest of the world.
This behavior will put the nails in his coffin full of guilt.
If all the Devries tapes show is Joran admitting to disposing of Natalee’s body, that in itself is huge. That admission proves that Joran, and Joran alone, is responsible for one of the most expensive searches for a missing person ever carried out (how many millions is Aruba claiming to have spent these days?), that Joran, and Joran alone is responsible for the drop in tourism experienced by Aruba and the resulting damage to tourism-dependent businesses, and that Joran, and Joran alone, is responsible for 2 and ½ years of intense suffering inflicted upon Natalee’s family and loved ones, not knowing what happened to their child, sister, granddaughter, friend.
Personally, I’ve always felt that Joran killed Natalee on the beach (or thought he killed her, because let’s face it, there is no way he could know for sure she was dead rather than just unconscious), then carried her body (dead or unconscious) into the ocean and swam out far enough that the current would carry her out to sea. By the time he was arrested ten days later, he had to be pretty confident that her body would never be found, if it hadn’t been found by then, and certainly it will never be found now. And if she had washed up to shore in those early days, he had the story of her falling down to explain any injuries. I seriously doubt Joran would ever admit to anyone that he intentionally killed Natalee, but his actions speak louder than words.
“Look what they did to Natalee”
Beth said that several times. Even when DV asked if what they did to her (Beth). She repeated look what they did to their country and look what they did to Natalee.
Beth and Dave, don’t give up. We aren’t
Thanks DeVries for seeking the truth
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY
#106 Vicki: I’m with you. I feel so bad for Natalee’s family and friends. I’m reserving my comments on this latest news because we have been thru this many times before. When I met Beth at the book signing I wrapped my hands around her hands while I spoke to her. To Beth and family members, just picture all of us Scared Monkeys wrapping our arms around you with the hope that you gain strength from us.
Justice for Natalee Holloway!
@MBS
It could of course just be possible that her death was indeed an accident….
and that Joran panicked, lied, starting to believe in his own story and that there was just no way back.
I’m not saying this is the case, but it is possible. I like to believe in the good of people..
#119 I agree with you…Joran has no common sense.
I don’t see why people keep saying he is smart. The only thing he is smart about is that he knows to lie and keep lying. But that’s not really smart. It’s just how he is, which is- he has no common sense to stay out of trouble so when he gets in trouble he lies and his damn lies don’t even make sense because he has no common sense from which to formulate a good sensible lie.
Joran is stupid in my opinion. And stupid is dangerous. And the only reason he gets by with his stupidity is because people who really are smart try to find something in what he says that makes sense. Smart people try to MAKE Joran smart, but really he’s just off the wall carelessly stupid.
Nothing Joran says makes sense. He lives moment by moment with his impulses. If he has confessed to anything it would have to be in a way in which he was bragging about how smart and cool he thinks he is. Still, he’d pawn it off as a joke. There’d better be forensic evidence to back up whatever they have on Joran.
#124, Sharon
Joran seems to read these boards because over time he has repeated things posters have speculated about and used them as excuses. If he’s tryin to say Natalee was cremated, I’d guess he got the idea that it was a good way to stop people from trying to find her real location by adopting the cremation theory.
BUt if she were cremated Joran could not have had that done without help. So I hope if this is what he said he did with her they make him prove it.
If this were an accident the body would have been left where it lay. If this were an accident it was only in that Joran didn’t mean what he was doing to cause death, but he was still up to no good or else he’d not have been interested in hiding the body.
I still believe the body was hidden because of where she died….and maybe even when she died….like not that night.
[...] Can It Be True after all This Time … Peter R. De Vries Solves the Natalee Holloway Case [...]
I can’t believe anyone would do what Joran has been doing for the last 2 ½ years, beginning with disposing of her body, to cover up an accident. And by disposing of her body, he could have very well killed her, because there is no way he could know for certain that she was actually dead.
I think it’s very possible Joran could have bragged about getting rid of the body, perhaps in response to the current deep water ocean search being done by the Persistence. I can just hear him saying, “Oh no, they will never find her body. Why, you ask? How can I be sure? Because this is what I did with it, and now there is no way to recover it.” And if JQK doesn’t think the body is recoverable, then I don’t think he put her in a crab cage and took her out to deep water in a boat, because in that case, there’s a small chance they could still find it, and that the cage would still contain some remains. I just think the most likely scenario is that he pushed her out into the current, and crossed his fingers, hoping she wouldn’t turn up. After 10 days, he would know it was unlikely she would turn up. That could be why he went ahead and dropped the HI lie. Well, maybe we will find out Sunday.
If it was an accident, it was of the “I didn’t mean to kill her, but she really made me mad” variety.
Doesn’t surprise me that a sociopath would go out partying. Remember Scott Peterson on death row for killing his wife and unborn child and dumping them in the bay.. Day after his wife went missing, he was ordering porn on his tv.. people out looking for her everywhere, not him.. putting out flyers, he took the flyers and did who knows what with them and sat along the highway talking to his gf on the phone. The night of his missing wife’s and child’s vigil, all the family was up front and Scott was in the back laughing it up and talking to his gf on the phone, telling her he was in Paris, France. That’s the way of a sociopath. Just pick out one and watch them lie and cheat and deceive every opportunity you give them.
I really don’t care what defense attorneys are inclined to believe. That’s their job to take the worst of the worst and try to paint them as saints. They do it everyday, unfortunately we then end up with them back on the street to continue their crimes. Defense attorneys throw everything in, including the kitchen sink, to try to get them off. Sorry, but if I were out with a guy and he accidently died or had health issues, I wouldn’t rush out and bury him or take him and dump him in the water. How about take him to the hospital? I wouldn’t engage in lie after lie for 3 years either. No common sense to that reason. Just like at first he said he lied because he had a gf. Ok he said he took Natalee to the lighthouse, fingered her,all kinds of sexual stuff, described her underwear and body parts, said she was drunk, passing out off and on, took her to the Holiday Inn and let her out, she fell and hit her head and he went to help her and she pushed him. He told that story because he didn’t want his gf to know he really took her to the beach and left her to look at stars because she wanted to stay there, no sex, no condom? No common sense to that argument at all. If I were the gf, the first story would upset me more. Not to mention, he has trashed Natalee every chance he got since day 1. I haven’t figured out why Satish is such the silent one. Deepak also trashed Natalee. This is a missing girl who may have been killed and none look for her or show any concern, just constant trashing of her and Paulus saying don’t worry if they have no body, they have no case. Not if they have no body, she could be alive.
Only one reason why 3 guys would go to a bar at closing time and move in on 1 intoxicated female.
I’ll put my trust in Persistence, and not in anything coming from Joran Van der Sloot’s mouth.
I hope Persistence keeps at it, because I think they very well could find her!!!
I’m certain that Paulus would love for Persistence to go away, and even worse, I’m certain that the Van der Sloots already had Plan “c” worked out, in the event that Persistence finds Natalee. I am very suspicious of all of these events unfolding as they are, but trying to keep an open mind.
I think it’s very interesting that all of this is coming out … now, with the added bizarre twist that after Natalee’s family being literally tortured, and Natalee, the victim, being brutally stripped of all her human rights, we now have to wait until Sunday, to “find out” what these savages did to her. I find it quite difficult to swallow that Joran suddenly “confessed”, when his evil conduct has left Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway in utter torment, on a daily basis – for close to 3 years straight without even so much as a hint since his FIRST CONFESSION TO THE “KILLING AND BURYING OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY”…remember? The “WE KILLED NATALEE AND BURIED HER”, CONFESSION?
There is something so heartless and evil about how this entire case has been handled and how Natalee and her family have been treated.
I don’t want to be cynical, but I can’t help but question how these events have unfolded.
However…..Maybe there’s a good reason for this to unfold as it has, and for it to have led up to this point, in the manner that it has unfolded…, but something seems very strange at so many levels.
But…Here’s what I do know…
On June 10, 2005, Joran Van der Sloot confessed to the KILLING of Natalee Holloway AND … to BURYING HER. Joran Van der Sloot in fact, LED POLICE TO THE LOCATION OF “THE BODY”. There were no charges ever made from this confession, in fact, we witnessed several government and police officials then engage in the savagery of erasing the confession, and retracting the entire parade of police officials en route to the BODY RECOVERY.
We’ve also seen video footage of a police parade over to the rocks, that appears to have included: DOMPIG, AND PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT, WITH ANOTHER GUY THAT SURE LOOKS LIKE GVC’s FATHER.
Furthermore, there were other media references to “WE KILLED NATALEE AND BURIED HER,” which were attributed to Van der Sloot and his pals, AND AGAIN – the “SUSPECT LEADING POLICE TO THE LOCATION OF THE BODY”.
There have been numerous individuals involved in a cover up of criminal acts, with absolutely no action taken by the ALE to administer justice for any of the horrific crimes involved in this case, including – people like Steve Croes, Boeti( Dompigs brother in law), and all the other liars who slandered this child and participated like a brood of savages in re-victimizing her,obstructing her truth, torturing her mother, her father, her siblings, and her entire family – over and over again.
My experience of what is unfolding is to be cautious to say the least, and the fact that it’s all coming out on Super-bowl weekend leading up to the presidential primaries of Super-Tuesday, is – well, shall we say, typical of the perverted “pr” machine and company, that has been operative behind the vicious slandering of Natalee and her family, the inhumane press releases ( as took place immediately after Katrina hit (where the family wasn’t even notified that the Sloot and his pals were all being released), the recently timed Christmas fiasco of arrests and un-arrests, and the brutal fostering of lies to the public in order to salvage whatever is left of Aruba’s hope for tourism from the USA.
Unless they arrest ALL the perverted, malicious, criminal individuals involved in everything from the COVERUP, destruction of evidence, failure to execute mandates of the law, falsifying police records, obstructions of justice, tampering with evidence, leading up to ALL the CRIMINAL ACTS inflicted upon Natalee, and the HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS INFLICTED UPON NATALEE, BETH, DAVE, AND THE ENTIRE FAMILY, – unless the CLARITY OF TRUTH shines forth, with VISIBLE ACTS OF JUSTICE TAKING PLACE, there is absolutely no reason for me to believe there is any element of sincerity or integrity to truly solve this case.
No ill will meant towards Mr. DeVries, but there are just certain elements here that cause me to take pause concerning not only the unfolding of events, but the very real possibility that Aruba needs an “exit” strategy, and the Sloots have “cut a deal” with the “I only disposed of her body” lie taking center stage, and PS: It can’t be found … thus, there is no way to VERIFY that anything this savage claims is even remotely credible…which leads me to say: CARRY ON, PERSISTENCE!!! CARRY ON!!!!
We need to go back to the basics: Joran confessed to the KILLING OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY, and to the BURYING OF HER BODY.
WHERE IS HER BODY, AND WHY DIDN”T THE POLICE IMMEDIATELY DEMAND THAT NATALEE BE RETURNED TO HER FAMILY?
That June 2005 – confession took place in Aruba, PRIOR to Joran’s “chat sessions with dad”, prior to Joran’s need to speak with his “brother”, prior to Joran’s sweat-mopping sessions with his mother.
All the POST-CHAT SESSIONS WITH DAD, have subsequently led to a host of filth coming from the mouths of people with no consicence that have literally DUMPED these claims on Natalee’s suffering, and savagely victimized family: “something bad happened”, “it was an accident”, “I’m completely innocent”, “I don’t have anything to with “IT”, “I may talk someday, but not now because it will hurt too many people..”, and of course, the famous “this is a disinformation campaign” with Rudy Croes becoming the victim instead of Natalee.
Maybe the most vulgar of all came from the mouth of the guy posing as a police officer who claimed: “she died of a combination of drugs / and alcohol overdose” ..where, Natalee – the missing child, without a voice and without any rights or freedom, suddenly became the CAUSE of her OWN MURDER… with the added touch of her somehow being able to then bury herself, dig herself up, and re-bury herself, and re-dig herself up, over and over again. The lack of conscience and the savagery alone are staggering to the mind.
I’m staying focused on the simple things that emerged very CLEARLY, AND VERY EARLY ON, when Joran didn’t have his DAD, to help with implanting the scourge from hell into the police charade of lie-files that Dompig and his pals Jacobs and Van der Straaten were in charge of, with their aides, who participated in the most hideous crimes of unconscionable behavior that I think I’ve ever heard of because of how many people it involves in subjecting A CHILD…and her entire family, her heart broken mother and father to the most vicious cruelty from the bowels of hell, that NONE of them attempted to stop and put an end to…except perhaps Jossey, and a handful of other good people.
Joran confessed to MURDERING Natalee, and BURYING HER BODY, not “ACCIDENTING” her.
If they dare attempt to sell the “this was an accident” garbage, and “her body is gone” lie, I will have no recourse except to feel that Aruba’s AHATA and government are tired of having to wait so long for all of this to “BLOW OVER”.
My response to this will then have to be: FULL STEAM AHEAD, RICHARD, VICKI AND COMPANY.
PS: Vicki – would you be able to post that email that you are using? Sorry if you already posted it and I missed it.
Natalee Holloway hasn’t seen her family in close to three long years. Her family awakens to a NIGHTMARE – EVERY SINGLE DAY WITHOUT END.
The only answers that will serve towards addressing this savagery and evil are the answers that LEAD TO the ACTIONS OF JUSTICE FOLLOWING THEM.
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.
JUSTICE FOR HER FAMILY.
JUSTICE NOW. NOTHING LESS.
“No man can terrorize an entire nation, unless we are all his ACCOMPLICES.”
Do not be an accomplice to this inhumane, savagery to an innocent child and her beautiful mother, father and family.
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE …..NOW.
If Natalee was cremated as soe are suggesting, those that run the crematorium must know about it and are guilty of aiding and abetting the illegal disposal of a body.
The subject of cremation came up many months ago and there was disagreement as to whether there was actually a crematorium on the island. Some of those who said there was also said that the person in charge was a relative of ????and here my memory fails me but I think it was one of the legal or law enforcement people…but then this incestuous lot are all related aren’t they????
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It is not only injustice for that girl and her family, but for all. I still see the “vacation in Aruba” on t.v. which is still sickening to me. I would just personally like to say,” Hey, Joran, how about coming to Alabama and vacation with us?”
Wow this is all so crazy.I do not understand why the world has to wait until Sunday to see and hear what evidence has been found.It makes me flippin mad for sure.It seems like this slimy creep should be picked up already..Beth could have been using the word”they” simply because she and many of us pretty much believe papa sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were involved too.Why was Deepak cleaning out his car using bleach in the wee hours of the morning?Why would they cover for Yoran if they had nothing to do with her murder.It’s common knowledge that one of those boys went and picked Yoran up at the beach right?Or did they…?(scratching my head)..What ever happened to being an accessory? Ugh,Ugh,Ugh..
If she overdosed and killed herself that way, she put joran in a very nasty situation. Alone on a beach with a dead girl, i think i would have freaked out just the same. Disposing of a body is a crime, but that doesn`t mean he is a criminal. Maybe he is also a victim of a horrible situation
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SM … STHU … idiot!!!
You dont dispose a body in a manner that cannot be recovered if it was an accident. Don’t be a fool your whole life.
She put him in a nasty situation … YOU ARE A SICK FOOL.
1st the Joran sympathizers said he was innocent and Natalee ran away
Then they blamed Natalee’s family
Now they say it was accidental and Joran only disposed of a body.
GROW UP and take your heads out of your a$$es. He did it and he disposed of her body. Learn to accept it as its the truth.
#133 disgustedmom… so true..we shall see.
But if it wasn`t an accident, why should he have killed her. just for fun I don`t buy it.
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SM: When one is being assaulted or had been given drugs without their knowledge, that’s far from an accident.
The question is for the “reasoning challenged” … why did he feel the need to dispose the body!!!
If Natalee had dies of an accidental overdose, why hide a body? She would have been found and an autopsy would have showed excess drugs in her system.
HOWEVER … THIS IS THE REASON WHY ONE WOULD HIDE A BODY.
If an autopsy would have shown a sexual assault and the presence of date rape drugs in her system.
Gee, so why would Joran have disposed of a body?
The answer is not a very difficult one is it?
sharon 124
Crematian: There is no official crematorium on Aruba that I have been able to find. Although; Paulus wrote up the legal briefs for Yolanda Wever for the Mementomori Funeral Home to establish one. However: the funeral homes I believe use either the incinerator at the Odubar Hospital or the Industrial Incinerator in San Nicolas.
Now the operator of both incinerators on May 2005 was Rene Van Heyningen. He was murdered on June 6th and the body discovered around June 8th, 2005. He was the person found decapitated in the back of a Gov’t building: Sabana Basora I think was the town. Rene lived in San Nicolas.
The other possibility would be one of the air shafts near Seroe Cristal. They go down about 800 feet and are not accessible. If anything was put down the shaft; retreiving the item would be difficult. These are less then two miles equi-distant from Montana or Paradera but much closer if starting from Moko.
One of my questions seems to have been answered.
This url leads to a story that says that in the Netherlands, if ONE party to a conversation that has been taped or recorded surreptitiously knows of the taping/recording, then it is admissible in court. Obviously the Aruban(s) who worked with deVries was aware of it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22949353/
Of course, once again … who knows what Aruba can or will do? There seems to be no law there.
As far as I know, none of us knows exactly what the “confession” said. We’ve heard only excerpts, summaries, and partial quotes.
But apparently Joran said that Natalee’s death was an “accident,” without specifying exactly what happened. What kind of “accident,” and in whose eyes? An “accident” in the course of a sexual assault on a drugged girl, or something more?
He also apparently said that the Kalpoes were not involved. Again, it’s not clear what he means by that. We KNOW that they were involved in taking Natalee away from C&Cs. Given their comments, their spending so much time at the van der Scum house, their going to jail, etc., etc., I can’t think that they weren’t complicit in assaulting Natalee.
Is Joran saying that yes, they were involved in all those, but not in the disposal of her body?
We simply don’t know.
And my understanding is, he said that Natalee’s body was disposed of … but failed to specify who was involved in that.
I don’t see why he spoke up at this time, if that is the case. But the people who have had direct access to this info seem to be convinced.
I suspect that Joran is telling some truth, but not all. Hopefully we’ll find out.
Meanwhile, those of us who advocate a boycott of Aruba will be asking some pointed questions. Among them: in light of Joran’s comments, van der Straaten’s early-June 2005 remark that “I’ve seen the evidence and you haven’t” takes on a very sinister overtone. Does this mean that he saw her body? If not, what else CAN it mean?
And if so, he’s complicit in the cover-up from a very early stage.
Let’s hope that clamour arises for the Dutch to subpoena this piece of crud and have him testify under oath. The same is true for a lot of them.
The boycott Aruba movement is only catching some fresh wind.
#146 … Actually, date-rape drugs pass out of the body relatively quickly, usually within 24 hours, I believe.
This is why police urge women who believe that they have been given such drugs to get to the hospital as soon as possible for a check-up. Otherwise, they may pass out of the body before they can be detected.
We don’t know, of course, whether Joran would know this. Methinks he’s probably indifferent.
sexual assault on an island where there are hundreds of girls more then willing to have sex with you.
I spent some summer vacation`s there and believe me there`s plenty of girls. absolutely no need to drug one or rape one.
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SM: Joran’s own words … we have done it 20 times before and nothing ever bad happened. Why does one go to a bar 1/2 hour before closing? Sorry, JVDS is no looker … he looks like a freak.
Yea, he would need added assistance.
That’s OK dude … I lived there, you do not have to tell me how the place works.
Date rapes happen all the time and are never reported.
#149, I was wondering if that was still true if the person dies soon after ingesting the drug. Will the drug still pass out of the body and be undetectable?
I don’t know.
Another reason the accident story doesn’t wash, how many interviews did Joran do, even appearing on television, to try and convince the world he innocently left Natalee alive on the beach? Those are not the actions of someone who did nothing but hide a body after she died “accidentally.” That sounds a lot more like a sociopathic killer convinced he has gotten away with murder.
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SM: You are correct, if it was an accident the likihood is he would have just left her on the beach.
Arievberg: You said, “Disposing of a body is a crime, but that doesn`t mean he is a criminal.”
If something is a crime as you state, you ARE CERTAINLY A CRIMINAL for committing that crime. That is the definition of “Criminal” – one who commits a crime – look up the words in any dictionary.
#139 Pearl … very good posting and I like you are standing by to see how Aruba plays their next card.
Justice for Natalee!
#150 Arievdberg – Did you know that RAPE is a crime of violence, control and humiliation?
It’s not about sex.
Read up.
Bending over to pick up an overloaded box,
and shooting a loud reverberating fart,
IS AN ACCIDENT.
While Joran Vandersloot is about as thrilling
as being locked in a room with a fart,
HIS KILLING OF NATALEE WAS
> NO ACCIDENT.
You can’t treat people like he does, & then
smile and just say WHOOPSIE, MY BAD. Screw that.
-j4n
Dear Scared Monkeys,
Come on now! Can’t you see that areivdberg is either Joran, his mommy, or one of his “buddies”?
:>)
What else could it be? I mean, other than a possible troll I can see no other answer.
A person must be living for the body to flush even GHB out of the system. If she was drugged and died within the short time we know she did, the drugs would be there.
As for the Kalpoes not being involved, I do not know how to take that. Yes, they help get her out of C&Cs and to where ever they took her. Yes, they seem to have participated in the rape…but I have my doubts on the murder. THAT is the only thing I can see that they may not have been involved in.
I also feel they have to have been involved in helping Joran get rid of her body. My feeling is Joran and Joran alone killed her. Whether it was by slipping her the drugs or otherwise, THAT would be the ONLY thing K2s were not directly responsible for.
One thing they are responsible for is obstruction of justice…
Dr. Michael Baden said if a person dies of an overdose of alcohol or drugs.. first they go into a coma and it can last for hours or days. Plenty of time to get help.
Rape has nothing to do with lots of women willing to give it up. Rape is more about the ones who don’t and control. They want the ones who say no.
Giving someone an overdose is murder.Using a date rape drug with intent to have sex one way or another is no accident.I still say there are several more people out there that had a hand in all this.Kalpoe brothers,papa sloot,and probably a few other freaks we don’t know about..Sick puppies for sure..
Joran v d Sllot says it was a joke, meant to impress een older person whom he admired. His story ie now that it was very stupid, but he wanted very much to impress. He partucipated 10 minutes ago, telephonically in a Dutch news program (the same where the winw incident took place). He was at his grandmother’s place in the Netherlands.
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‘Joran let body Natalee Holloway disappear’
Rotterdam,1 febr. – Joran van der Sloot was involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway’s body. The American student became unwell after having sex with Van der Sloot on the beach strand. The lawyer of Holloway’s family says that’s revealed on the tapes by crimereporter Peter R. de Vries. The material was recorded by hidden camera.
In panic Van der Sloot called a friend. This friend, who wasn’t in the picture with Justice before, dumped the girl from a boat into the sea.
The Public Posecutor at Aruba confirmed the tapes contain „essential information” that was lacking in the investigation. This is the motice to reopen the case, that was closed only recently. De Vries holds his tongue untill the broadcast on Sunday.
Joran: ‘Silly me’
Joran van der Sloot confirmed his confession on the dutch talkshow Pauw & Witteman by telephone, but that he has lied to his friend. “I told him what he wanted to hear. That was silly, very silly. I was tricked.” Van der Sloot does not expect to be arrested because of this confession.
Van der Sloot’s American lawyer stated at press-agency ANP, his cliënt has no need to worry about the revelation by De Vries. Lawyer Joe Tacopina: „I spoke to Joran. I spoke to his parents. They have spoken to the Aruban Public Prosecutor. There is no concern that this will lead to a conviction of Joran.”
Thursday night Van der Sloot was seen in a dancing in Arnhem. He lives and studies in Arnhem. It’s indistinct if Van der Sloot is officially a suspect again.
De Vries’s claim that he has solved the disappearance of Holloway, is getting a lot of attention in America veel. ABC bought the rights and will broadcast on Monday.
Gepubliceerd: 1 februari 2008
Translated from NRC Handelsblad (Dutch Newspaper)
The time has finally come to dust this punk’s butt,I for one as most are, am very happy that he finally slipped up & ran his mouth.All criminals think there way smarter than the police,but they can’t think of everything when it comes to the perfect crime.Well played,I guess he relaxed a bit when he found out the investigation was closed,he figured he beat the best of them.I just hope that the other two boys,the Kelpoe’s weren’t in on it,it always seemed that Joran was just so smug about the whole thing,not to mention his low life of a father.Now the truth can finally be told,Natalee can finally rest in peace & her family can finally at least know the truth behind what this low life spoiled brat,waste of skin did with there child.
It was shocking to see Beth reaction to viewing the video tape. What ever Joran said must be extremely upsetting.
I really hope this time there is no backing out on Aruba’s part to go after Joran with full force.
I just watched the clip with Natalee’s mother,I didn’t think that she looked shocked at all.What I saw on her face was that she looked horrified & full of disgust and revulsion,she looked more appalled than anything.I think this poor woman knew that she was never going to see her daughter alive again,but she held onto a mustard seed of hope that things might be different.It’s really sad that such a beautiful girl had to fall into the hands of such a twisted worm.May she rest in peace
and her family see’s justice served.It would be awful if they even had 100% proof that Joran did this but still walked away scott free.
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‘Van der Sloot in hiding’
AMSTERDAM – Joran van der Sloot is in hiding somewhere nobody will find him. That’s what his grandmother told NOS Saturday afternoon.
Bekentenis in zaak-Holloway
The grandmother states Van der Sloot does not intend to communicate with any press untill Sunday night after the broadcast of Peter R. de Vries. His parents feel no need to go to Holland and will stay at Aruba.
Pressure
A lot of pressure was put on Van der Sloot since De Vries announced he solved the case Holloway with hidden camera.
Lawyer
Jorans American lawyer Joseph Tacopina said his client should have hung up when the talkshow ‘Pauw & Witteman’ called him. “But he didn’t. Obviously his parents aren’t pleased with that.” It’s unknown if Van der Sloot will listen to his lawyers advise to remain silent this weekend.
Published: 2 februari 2008 13:17 – 13:41 (translated from http://www.nu.nl)
‘Joran van der Sloot not in hiding’
ORANJESTAD – Joran van der Sloot is not in hiding according to his mother Anita van der Sloot. “Nor is he arrested”, that’s what she said Saturday to get the rumours out of the world. “As a matter of fact, we talking to him by phone at this instant.”
Confession in Holloway-case
The parents of the former suspect have no further comment. Their lawyer isn’t available for comments either.
Published: 2 februari 2008 16:53 – 17:00
(translated from http://www.nu.nl)
‘No warrant of arrest Van der Sloot’
ORANJESTAD – The Public Prosecutor at Aruba has not filed a warrant of arrest for Joran van der Sloot. The Public Prosecution (PP) stated that on Saturday.
Yhe PP will wait to react untill after the broadcast of Peter R. de Vries on Sunday.
Published: 2 februari 2008 19:44 – 19:47
(Translated from http://www.nu.nl)
‘PP Aruba doesn’t know all yet’
HILVERSUM – The Public Prosecution (PP) doesn’t know everything crimereporter Peter R. de Vries found out about the death and disappearance of the American Natalee Holloway.
The PP will have to wait for the broadcast too before definite conclusions may follow.
Obligation to report
“I have no obligation to report to the PP”, De Vries said Saturday night on talkshow Nova. “I have been very open, it was just not possible yet to reveal more.”
De Vries has been working on this detailed report of the Holloway-case untill very recently.
Payment
The journalist acknowledged the man Joran van der Sloot confessed to, was paid.
De Vries stated he ‘promised’ the man 25.000 euro for five moths of work, 5000 euro a month. De Vries said this was ‘a kind of compensation of expenses’ the ‘well-to-do’ man.
Pauw en Witteman
De Vries made notice that it was confirmed to him that the parents of Joran van der Sloot were paid 5000 euro by Pauw & Witteman for their appearance on their talkshow in Januar.
Immediatelay after that show Joran threw a glass of wine at De Vries.
Lie
In an interview by phone Van der Sloot stated on ‘Pauw en Witteman’ that the confession that will be shown by De Vries is a lie.
According to De Vries, Van der Sloot “lies like a conjurer” but he couldn’t respond otherwise because than he would have confirmed his confession. “It was his only way out.”
Lawsuit
De Vries thinks the meent Aruban PP will have enough material to take Van der Sloot to court.
The justical side of the case matters less to him than the truth: “What has really happened there and in which ways Joran van der Sloot has been telling lies to the entire world?”
Published: 2 februari 2008 23:20 – 23:22
(Translated from http://www.nu.nl)
Peter R. de Vries confirmed on NOVA that he might appear on Oprah. “There are so many interested parties that it’s quite probable I’ll tour around the USA.”
First part Peter R. de Vries:
Joran told the same story to his ‘friend’ on different occasions. That story never changed and detailed information was added over time.
Because Aruban law is pretty complicated, and there is no death penalty there, Joran is not very likely to get any kind of punishment.
There are no jury trials there, and the judge has the final say, about if someone is guilty or not.
On an other note, Joran is reported to be hiding from the general public in the Netherlands, as some of the guys there want to pull him apart.
All this is costing the Dutch government money, as they are having to make up for the lost money for tourists that are not showing up in Aruba.
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