Han Mos, Aruban Chief Prosecutor Requests Joran Van der Sloot be Arrested on New Peter R. De Vries Evidence


Will the third time be the charm and provide “Justice for Natalee”.JoranPrison

Hans Mos, the chief public prosecutor in Aruba has requested that Joran Van der Sloot be arrested as a suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Bases upon new evidence gathered from information gathered by Dutch crime investigator Peter R. De Vries, Hans Mos is hoping that the third time is the charm.

Hans Mos expects to hear a ruling from a judge as soon as Saturday or Sunday on the request regarding Joran van der Sloot, the source said.

If the judge rules in favor of the request, van der Sloot — who is attending college in the Netherlands — would be brought back to Aruba for further questioning and investigation, the source said.

There was no request for the rearrest of brothers Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had previously been named as suspects in the investigation.

Earlier Friday, Mos’ office announced prosecutors were reopening their probe into Holloway’s vanishing after seeing tapes recorded by Dutch journalist Peter R. de Vries, The Associated Press reported.

“The recordings made available to the Public Prosecutor have given the Public Prosecutor a reason to reopen the investigation,” the office said, according to the AP. (CNN)

Joran Van der Sloot is now saying that he lied when he told a friend who was taping him that he had personal involvement in the death and disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Aruba has paid a mighty price for the continual lies of Joran Van der Sloot.

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    167 Responses to “Han Mos, Aruban Chief Prosecutor Requests Joran Van der Sloot be Arrested on New Peter R. De Vries Evidence”

    1. buster on February 1st, 2008 11:59 pm

      I predict when all else fails urin will blame it all on his horrible mom and the way his dad raised him, Not to worry bald taco will still defend the eggplant/defendant
      Hey urin I bet you will wish you where drugged when bubba rapes you in the shower

    2. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 12:10 am

      Watch yourself Joran; it’s gonna hurt when you bend over to pick up the soap. hahahahahaha!

      Yippeee! Finally!

    3. Patti on February 2nd, 2008 12:10 am

      I love that picture of Joran behind bars!

      My Caption:

      Joran says, “Something Bad Happened”,

      But, Aruba says, “Joran is Innocent”.

      Those words were spoken June 9th, 2005

      and, even today, the cover-up continues.

      … and so does the boycott!


      Justice for Natalee…

    4. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 12:12 am

      hahaha! Let it rip baby!

    5. katablog on February 2nd, 2008 12:13 am

      Let’s have a poll. How many people believe that Paulus’ judge friends will allow Joran to be arrested again (4th time SM)?

      I vote: no

    6. Patti on February 2nd, 2008 12:37 am

      I vote no – They don’t want him to talk…

      in case he might start telling the TRUTH!


    7. weasel on February 2nd, 2008 12:39 am

      #5 you are probably right. Those Dutch judges
      are idiots. But, again, this is probably their
      last time to get it right. And Mr. De Vries is
      doing his best to do that – Bravo for him. I
      am with out, and vote no however. I have no faith whatsoever in their so called ‘legal system’. It has already proven itself to be a sham. I will be real surprised if he is arrested.

    8. justmoma on February 2nd, 2008 12:39 am

      Another dog and pony show?

    9. Meeee on February 2nd, 2008 12:43 am

      I was just watching the O’Rielly. He and geraldo taking. And he brought up seeing the FBI file about Natalee doing Cocaine? Who said that she was doing Cocaine. The 3 main suspects? So that makes it true? How would the FBI or anyone know what she was doing?

    10. brie on February 2nd, 2008 12:45 am

      Get rid of Paulus’s judge friends..and all the corruption that evolved in this case….and let Peter do his work…shut up Rudy…shut up Nelson….let’s just get it done…give the family closure…give the decent people of Aruba, including Jossy their island back….a punk kid and his father did this…I’m surprised someone hasn’t burnt your house down…because of all the damage you have done!

    11. brie on February 2nd, 2008 12:52 am

      Destruction by Joran…again and again…supported and defended by his parents…Who wants their child taught by Anita..what children should live in that household…what father sends his child to college with a porno cd to keep him awake in class…..

    12. Dan on February 2nd, 2008 1:10 am

      lol, go brie, i so agree………….

    13. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 1:18 am


      English subtitles. This is one really sick young man. What in the world did Anita and Paulus do to raise such a monster?

      Let it rip!

    14. mayan_moons on February 2nd, 2008 1:25 am

      I love it that Peter is asking Hans Mos

      “Am i sitting opposite a happy man?”

      That first soundbite is priceless for soo many reasons. Peter knows the rules of a Dutch *Sting*, how do we know this? The response from one of the dumb’s of the ditch that “RECENT JURISPRUDICE” will Null the admissiblility of the tapes.


    15. mayan_moons on February 2nd, 2008 1:43 am

      How long are Aruban’s/Dutch going to let the Sloot’s make fool’s of them in the eyes of the world?

      On Superbowl Sunday too……..jeeeeeez

    16. 10061906 on February 2nd, 2008 2:39 am

      Hey Joran: How does it feel to know that the only reason you are on this earth as a lying oxygen to carbon dioxde converter is because some time around November 6th, 1987 your daddy’s condom broke. I’m sorry; maybe I took it for granted that it was your mother’s husband. Anyway who ever it was he is your daddy. You are the perfect example for a planned parenthood poster. Lets see if that wasn’t your mother’s husband would that still make you a lying bastard. I believe so and that is the truth.

    17. nychic (back in tx) on February 2nd, 2008 3:19 am

      Once Again – Hoping Joran The Pig Will Fry
      Loved Hearing The Fear In His Voice On That Tape

      Just Read On De Vries Site That ABC Will Air A
      Special 20/20 on Monday With The “Tape”`

    18. brie on February 2nd, 2008 4:13 am

      Book ‘em Dano!!! And get it over with!!!

    19. Dan on February 2nd, 2008 4:37 am

      lets hope the ruling is saturday, Urine needs picked up. Put in Jail, lol how ironic, he took a life and now he has no rest in his, lol. His thong must be squezing him tighter these days, lol, tell another lie Urine!! Squeek, squeek, lol, no vaseline for you boy!!!!

    20. Dan on February 2nd, 2008 4:58 am

      Joran, Im very excited for you, You hopefully will have a whole bunch of sex and not drug induced as well. its free and upstanding, and just think, you don’t have to hide anything, lol. Your concience should be so clear with this news, no more lies, lol. Word has it that your butt is expected, lol, in some Cells of a private matter. Also, you may never have to talk again so I am told, your gonna have nothing to say, your gonna be to busy with the slurpies your gonna get, MMM yummy huh, lol,lol.You like head bangin music Im told, lol, well you will get the upfront seat and the experience of it as well, lol. Dam, a sporter like you should soooooooo enjoy this!! Rock on !!

    21. mike on February 2nd, 2008 5:24 am

      they finally got the guy, good.

      and, …

      when do i get to meet marianne croes ?????

    22. Dan on February 2nd, 2008 5:25 am

      Joran, I truley wish you this: May you feel the pain Natalee felt on her last night of life. May you feel the pain you have caused the family of Natalee’s family. May you feel the pain of the innocent people of Aruba, feel their pain, you have hurt them so bad. Feel the pain from the american people, and feel it good, we push hard and big. You have no sympathy from the USA, take it like a man if you are one. Opps, I forgot myself for a moment, lol, your a pink fairy in tu toos, lol. lol, everyone knows your a sissy and is so laughing at you, your pathetic, lol. Im betting the only way you can get a girl now is, well, lol, drug her as before huh, lol,lol, no girl in her right mind would want anything to do with you, you loser. Again my appologies, you had to do this before huh, lol. Your friends , opps again, Im betting you have none right? lol. Go see mom and dad will stroke you Im sure, opps I mean comfort you.

    23. Dan on February 2nd, 2008 5:33 am

      Joran, your not even equivilent to the slim left behind that a slug leaves. Do the world a favor and confess, and then go hang your sorry ass, anita, help your son, tighten the noose for him, Paulus, drop your pants and whack the pee pee off, lol, no paulus, I mean cut it off, we need no more spawn from you……….CASE CLOSED

    24. Dan on February 2nd, 2008 5:47 am

      The judges will surely let him off the hook, his baby face so cries for it, the poor boy.
      If the athorities lets him off this time , we as americans need to step up more and demand justice!!!! There is more to boycott than aruba!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If your gonna play with fire, fight with fire, and by god I intend to!!!!!

    25. Dan on February 2nd, 2008 6:02 am

      Joran you know Natalee told you to stop and you did not. She wanted no part of this and you took it anyways and took her life!!!! I know what you did!!!!!

    26. Michael on February 2nd, 2008 6:39 am

      They now have to prove that the confession Joran made is true with evidence. If they can’t do that the confession is useless. Especially since he’s saying that it is only a made up story. Only a confession on video is not enough to get him convicted without hard evidence. That’s the law in Aruba. Even so, what he confessed is that he only disposed the body. For that crime the max sentence you can get is 6 months in Aruba. So even if they can do something with that tape he probably doesn’t have to do any time since he has already spend most of those 6 months in jail during his previous arrests. I think he’s walking again this time.

    27. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 6:43 am

      Here’s the transcript and translation of yesterdays telephone-call of P&W-Joran. (You can see a clip of that here at “FILMPJE ROFL”: http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/1185631.html#comments )

      Pauw: Good evening Joran.
      Joran: Good evening.
      Pauw: How are you doing?
      Joran: I’m allright, okay.
      Pauw: Well, actually you are the targetpoint of all kinds of remarks… ?
      Joran: Yes, that’s a petty.
      Witteman: How did it come about with this so called confession?
      Joran: Y-Y-Yes, n-n-no, it-it-it is indeed true… I have told someone something that I shouldn’t have told… in a story… Someone I knew some time…
      Witteman: How long did you know him?
      Joran: Some six months or so.
      Pauw: What did you say?
      Joran: Yes.., yes… Everybody will see it Sunday… (litlle laugh) But it is really not…. It’s easilly provable that what I told is not the truth. Actually.., actually there’s a lot of fuzz about nothing… And actually that’s very petty because… that they flew in this mother… and all they told her… But we’ll see…
      Pauw: But is it not a good idea to tell us what you all have said and explain to us why it isn’t all true what you’ve said?
      Joran: Yes.., I don’t know. I have discussed it with my parents and lawyers. And they told me how it all is… And they said I’ld better not say anything.
      Witteman: The “Journaal” tonight reported that it all was about the report that you, after you had had sex/kissed with her she suddenly, well not suddenly, but in any case, passed out, became lifeless… And you called a friend, who came with a boat… And that the two of you got on that boat with her… And slipped her into the water…?
      Joran: Well… (nervous little laughs) That is indeed what I have told.
      Witteman: But is that not very dumb of you to tell that?
      Joran: Yes… That, that is indeed very dumb but what, what I try to say is… I had uhhh, over the course of six months build a relationship with someone…. And yes… That person he was very uh… Yes… Very difficult to explain but… Yes… Sturdy… And this is actually what he WANTED to hear so I actually just told him what he WANTED to hear.
      Pauw: How do you know he wanted to hear that?
      Joran: Well actually I had my suspisions at that time…. Because… Yes… He talked to friends… or other friends and girlfriends of mine; you name it… I didn’t have a supergood feeling about it and yes…
      Pauw: But Joran…
      Joran: … and finally…
      Pauw: …It then is indeed very dumb that especially at this moment to say that, if it’s not true???!!!
      Joran: It is indeed dumb… IT IS SO DUMB (whining). It is really dumb. … (OMG!!!)
      … … … … … … … … Silence … … … … … …
      Witteman: Do you think you will be arrested?
      Joran: Noooohhhh… I don’t think so… …………………………….. I don’t think so. Maybe that if they have the chance (can’t really hear it that good)… Because they have arrested me in the past for even less…. But.. yes… I just was tricked into this…. (???)
      Pauw: Did you talk to that friend… Who uuhh took/recorded this story from you?
      Joran: I just had a conversation of about 20 minutes with him… Just before I spoke to you.
      Witteman: And then you cursed him?!???
      Joran: No, no… I actually are normal with him (nervous laughs).
      Witteman: But he betrayed you, didn’t he?
      Joran: Yes uh.., yes… yes… He doesn’t want to say anything… He says about that… what comes… what comes… he’ll tell that sunday.
      Pauw: But he has apparently, at least that is a story we’ve heard, gotten money from Peter R. de Vries to get a confession.., to record a confession of you.?
      Joran: Yes, I don’t know… As far as I know he allready has plenty of money of himself… But… We… we’ll see…
      Pauw: What kind of a guy is this.., who recorded this confession of you…?
      Joran: Yes, look… I don’t know either what they will broadcast coming sunday… But it’s a somewhat older man whom I met and whom I spent rather much time with. …………….. Just because I found him a very fascinating person. He uh, yes… I was very much interested in him. And then I just told him… uhh (nervous laugh) what he wanted to hear…..
      Pauw: But how then did you know/find out that he wasn’t righteous.., as you say: I told him JUST WHAT HE WANTED TO HEAR?
      Joran: Yes, no… That… Well he did a lot of things that were actually not uuhh… that actually couldn’t be so… That, that, that were themselves…. That I myself would never do… Some of those things he actually did….
      Pauw: Example?!
      Joran: Well I don’t want to give an example of that. I don’t want to smear someone else. But apparently he recorded me now… Or whatever…
      Witteman: Yes.., with a hidden camera and a hidden microphone…. You never noticed that probably?
      Joran: Wwwwellll… Nowadays these things are probably so tiny that they/you (can’t hear). But I was just incredibly stupid of me. Really, really, really not normaly… so dumb. And I just hope that uhh it will stay a little quieter because there is a LOT of fuzz now… And that’s not good….(I think he feels he’s going down!!!!!!!!!!!)
      Pauw: Did you get into contact with the guy with whom you would have transported Natalees body?
      Joran: Yes, no…. No that was just a guy whom I just met at Aruba… (Paulus maybe?) Just recently when I was there.
      Pauw: You mean you spoke to him then?
      Joran: …. Then I had just acquanted to/with him. (Sigh…)
      Pauw: Mmmyeauh… And did he… Does the police has contacted this guy by now for example?
      Joran: Yes… I don’t know that all… I have… when I told this all to you… told my parents and my lawyer… But I don’t know what all is going on there… What the OM (Publ.Pros.) thinks… I think they will just try to find this out… and it then will turn out to not be like this? (Don’t get this… Does he contradicts himself/lies here again? Was it Paulus maybe?)
      Witteman: And has… You have had contact with your father… Does your father has contact with the police overthere?
      Joran: Yes… I don’t know. As far as I know he had a conversation… with uuhh…
      Witteman: Mr. Mos…?
      Joran: … the head-officer (of the OM, = Mos)… But he just told it was about safety…
      Witteman: So it wasn’t about a coming investigation?
      Joran: No, no…
      Pauw: Because this mr. Mos has said this was the missing piece in the investigation… Namely: your confession!
      Joran: Uh, uh, yes!?! It is very, very sad but what I said wasn’t right. And it is verifiable… if it is right or not.
      Witteman: So you didn’t get on the water with a boat and Natalee Holloway to after that, let her slip into the water?
      Joran: Nooh… off course not… (deep sigh)
      Witteman: That has absolutely not happened?
      Joran: Nhoh… (sighs deep while saying that)
      Pauw: And how is it verifiable that that isn’t right, you think?
      Joran: Well… I don’t know. That has to… If… With that person you don’t think that he will say that they (he) did something like that with me. That’s not possible…? (So he’s predicting that this person [???] will deny he was with him??? Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm??? He’s not only a psychopath but a psychic as well!!!) …. Hmm… Uhhh… Nhoooowww… It just was very stupid…
      Witteman: Do you blame PRdeVries for something he did?
      Joran: No… hu, hu.. He’s just doing his job doesn’t he? I think it will make very good television this sunday… But it’s just a petty that a lot of emotions play a role with a lot of people… And yes, these will be hurt… and it will not be a good show… And, but… …………… Uh, yes… It’s just like that.
      Pauw: Joran… All the people that think now… This Joran van der Sloot… from the start has lied…. and that was at this table brought up by Peter R. de Vries as well.. And now he apparently has lied again to someone else…. Why should anyone still believe Joran van der Sloot?
      Joran: Yes, hu, hu… uhhh… I question that myself as well sometimes… There is no reason what soever to believe me nhoo……… (sound of him taking a deeeeep breath) …….
      Witteman: Are you going to watch coming sunday?
      Joran: I, I, I… think I will watch the show sundayevening… I don’t know if I will see it where I am now but… I do think I will watch it sundaynight…
      Witteman: Would you then considder to react to it, the day after that in our show?
      Joran: Uhm, yes… I don’t know. I feel for myself actually… that I don’t want to react. I just say it now because it’s here now (?), and I can at this point rationalize it… (Guess he’s SCARED for what this show will bring!!!!) … But… We’ll see…
      Witteman: Well, we’ll call you monday then…
      Joran: … We’ll call each-other monday….
      Witteman: And we thank you a lot for speaking to us!
      Joran: Yes, no… It’s OK….
      Witteman: And we thank your grandma too…. (etc.) Thanks Joran…

    28. Achilles on February 2nd, 2008 7:05 am

      Aruba do the right thing, give hime some hard time in jail and your island can go back to normal and get tourists back!

      Sporter the rope has got shorter.

    29. Ken Magura on February 2nd, 2008 7:56 am

      Ever wonder why some animals eat their young ?

    30. Donna on February 2nd, 2008 8:33 am

      He validated the tape and said he “lyed”. Bet Taccopina is crappin his pants! How you gonna defend this perp now, Joe?
      Justice for Natalee, better late than never!!!!

    31. Skyboxx on February 2nd, 2008 8:40 am

      Unbelievable and now Joran says, “Well I was lying in the interview….” Yeah right, we are suppose to believe you now……………

      Anita, shame on you, you knew all along, you could have come forward and then gone onto a life with your other son. You should have told what you already knew about Paulus and Joran, but no drunk with power you took command of this upon your return, but you couldn’t control Joran, you never could and now the truth will come out. The lies, the cover up. The “dove” you thought of as Joran is really a “DOG” who turned on even you now.

      Justice for Natalee

    32. arievdberg on February 2nd, 2008 8:44 am

      He commited a crime, he did something wrong.

      But what have the rest of the people in holland and aruba got to do with it.

      How in the world is he making a fool of me?

      In holland we don`t blame every american for electing a brainless zipperhead as president.

    33. Carol Armstrong on February 2nd, 2008 8:59 am


      Define “Obstruction of Justice”

    34. mommytraveler on February 2nd, 2008 9:10 am

      Joran – How did you determine that Natalee was actually dead or had died? Are you now a paramedic, a doctor, or what? Maybe she was only unconscious and you dumped her at sea while she was still alive. That’s called murder. That is not an accident. How disgusting. You are STUCK ON STUPID. You said it yourself in the interview on the radio. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.

    35. mitza4u on February 2nd, 2008 9:39 am

      And so it comes out, all you have to do is wait. Liars always tell on themselves sooner or later.

      Been a long time coming.

    36. chris on February 2nd, 2008 9:53 am

      #16 do you ever sleep? One reason this thing needs to come to a close is for all of us to get a little shuteye and have our bloodpressure go back to safe levels.
      To turn on the news and hear that Urine again said he lied is just too much. He didn’t know he was being recorded so there was no need to lie, unless it’s the only way he thinks he can win friends and influence people(thx Carnegie, I think).
      I keep going back to the conversation in the car between the 3 jerks and believe that the most truth was told that day.
      BTW, how does he know what’s on the wiretap and which part did he lie about? Did we give daddy access again?
      Let’s continue the boycott as long as it takes!!!!!

    37. Angela on February 2nd, 2008 9:53 am

      Yesterday he was on the phone in a dutch tv show and said that what was recorded on camera was all a big lie. He was almost crying, lol and sounded very nervous.
      Today he went in hiding because he don,t want to talk to any newsreporter until the show on tv tomorrow.

    38. Poochy on February 2nd, 2008 9:56 am

      van der Sloot: “Someday I’ll tell the truth about what happened to Natalee”

      So sporter told the truth, sobered up, repeated the word DUMB several times for doing so, and is now spewing out BS direct from the TACO SPIN factory damage control unit. Sounds like Taco dusted off his OJ black glove notes “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit’ as it may apply to a missing sneaker!

      Sporter, you’re not as good as you think with damage control

    39. 10061906 on February 2nd, 2008 10:30 am

      I may be wrong but didn’t I read that this new evidence is admissible if one of the two parties involved knows he/she is being taped. I believe the lying little shit Joran and the DUTCH judge can’t call the new evidence entrapment. Hey Taco;;; your client that you can’t by Aruban law represent; admitted on live TV that he told the other person exactly what he wanted to hear. Joran said after the fact that he lied. Well if that be the case that is not entrapment. He was not being lead. “I told the person exactly what he wanted to hear”; I believe were his words that were taped from his phone call.
      Is that why you said he should not have made that phone call?
      He blew it and you know it. And by the way Taco; what you have been feeding the media about being Joran’s attorney since you can’t represent him anywhere except in
      New York. I believe that would be a lie. I believe once the New York bar receives enough complaints about you going outside the normal ethical practices; some kind of disbarring may be forth coming or at least some censure. You have been stating for two years; that you have been representing him. Just where have you been representing him? You may as well pass the bar on Aruba; because you will not be getting any clients in the US. Not if the Justice for Natalee League can do anything about it.
      Just think Joe; you could have been a contender; but alas you picked the wrong side.
      So the Dutch prosecutors are CLOWNS are they?

      By the way Kelly and Castillo. Crawl back under that slimmy rock from which you came.
      If it wasn’t so disrespectful I would say you sounded like a comedy team.
      RIP A&C

    40. disgustedmom on February 2nd, 2008 10:33 am

      #5…”Let’s have a poll. How many people believe that Paulus’ judge friends will allow Joran to be arrested again (4th time SM)?”

      Now that Joran has said he lied….I vote No.

      They know if the get him in jail he won’t talk about anything again.

      And they have no proof to hold him. They don’t care if he confessed and I hardly think if a body were found right where he said he put her they’d charge him.

      Sorry to be such a downer! I have no faith! If they wanted to do anything about this they could have charged Joran with lying to hamper an investigation a long time ago. Giving false information to police….gee whiz, Aruba! How fine is that with you?

      Hans Mos has been put in a precarious situation by Mr De Vries. He had the tapes for about a week already and didn’t do squat until Peter made it public that he was going to air it on TV.

    41. Susy Q on February 2nd, 2008 10:42 am

      I think Joran’s confession is worthless at this point. Nutty people confess to high profile crimes…that’s why the police always hold back certain details…why do people do it…maybe just for attention….over two thousand people confessed to killing Elizabeth Short in 1947…including even some women… I believe early in the case there was mention that any material used in an “entertainment program” could not be used as evidence in court. Who knows…maybe the wine toss was part of the promotion…just my thoughts…

    42. disgustedmom on February 2nd, 2008 11:28 am

      Transcript of that youtube radio conversation:

      Host: What did you say?

      Joran: Well, you’ll find out Sunday. But it’s easy to prove that it’s nonsense. This is a lot of fuzz about nothing. And that’s a shame for Natalee’s mother really, who came all the way to the Netherlands.

      Host: You said you had sex with Natalee after which she lost consciousness and died .You decided to call a friend to take her body in a boat, then on open sea you dumped it.

      Joran: Yes, that’s what I told the guy. I told him what he wanted to hear.

      Host: But isn’t it incredibly stupid to tell al lie like that?

      Joran: It’s so stupid. So stupid. Really stupid.

      Joran: The worst thing is that I’ve only just met the guy who I said assisted me.

      Host: How are you going to prove this story is a lie?

      Joran: I don’t know. Do you think it’s possible for this guy to not talk about this for 2 and a half years?

      Joran: I think it’s going to make for really good television come Sunday but it’s a shame that a lot of feelings will probably be hurt as well.

      Host: Why on earth would we believe you?

      Joran: That’s a good question. No reason whatsoever.

      Questions…and my analysis:

      1. How is it going to be easy to prove what Joran says was nonsense? (Joran knows Natalee is not in the water and he could prove he was lying about it by giving up where she really is.)

      2. Why did Joran say he told the guy what he wanted to hear? (Why was Joran trying to impress this person? Joran didn’t want this person to think he was a weenie? Joran is desperate to find someone to appreciate his F’ed up nature)

      3. The host asked Joran if it wasn’t incredibly stupid to lie. Joran repeats how stupid it was 3 times! (Joran is playing dumb. He is trying to project an image of a stupid boy, not a cold calculating douchbag.)

      4. The host asked how Joran was going to prove he lied? Joran says he doesn’t know, then proposes a question to the host he hopes will point him/Joran in the right direction for an answer. “ Do you think this guy would have kept quiet for 2 ½ years?” (Joran, how dumb! Of course he would if he helped you! Duh! Joran was looking for validation that the host –and therefore the public at large- would believe this lame excuse and at the same time fishing to see if ‘the guy’ had already told.)

      5. Why did Joran say it was a shame a lot of feelings were going to be hurt? (Feelings? I think that translates into English as feelings but probably means to Joran that those who try to take him down are going to be disappointed…which means to me that Joran knows his arse is covered and nothing is ever going to happen against him.)

      6. The host asked why they would believe Joran; Joran answers no reason whatsoever. (Joran is again playing dumb. He is using this ‘dumb game’ as his best defense. He is playing like he’s stupid but at the same time it infuriates him to have to put such an image forward about himself because he thinks he’s really so smart!)

      Summary from the psychology opinion armchair:

      Joran has gotten by all his life by playing dumb, weak and stupid when he gets caught. It angers him though when people believe he is dumb, weak and stupid. Joran has gotten by all his life playing like he cares about the feelings of others, as if he couldn’t or didn’t mean to hurt anyone. It angers him when his remorse is not believed because then he realizes he has played the simpleton for no reason. Joran believes he can do no wrong because he only does what he wants to do and that is always OK with him and always right. Yet, he seeks answers to justify that his behavior others think is wrong is just because he is a silly dumb boy who hasn’t grown up yet. Now that he is ‘grown up’ this is going to be a problem for him and he is going to have to adjust to show he is not a weenie, whiner. Shit will hit the fan! I’m sure Joran highly regrets doing this radio spot where he once again played his ‘dumb card’ in public. He is probably feeling like the hosts tricked him because they didn’t let him lead the conversation but rather kept him on the defensive where he never intended to be. Joran did not get the validation he was seeking. He will talk more if they do not arrest him.

    43. waterboy (Jerry) on February 2nd, 2008 11:41 am

      Even if the tapes have Joran saying what has being rumored he said to his friend, it is not true. He calls it intercourse. We know it wasn’t. Intercourse conveys consent, and we know him as a “taker” and a bully. When someone calls his hand, he throws something at him or her, or hits them, or shoots them with a paintball gun, or chokes them with his belt, or perhaps beats them to death.

      Nothing Joran says is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. It is simply the way Joran sees the truth, and the truth is through narcissistic colored glasses.

      How dare a young attractive girl refuse to have sex with Joran. In his mind she was simply not worthy of denying him, and he had the right to take her as he pleased. It’s her fault that she fought and resisted and he killed her. And thus we have the thought pattern of a narcissistic psychopath.

      You’re not going to get a confession from Joran where he sees himself in any way at fault. He may very well portray himself as some sort of heroic savior.

      Joran is one creepy, creepy, guy; but hey, he is so proud of himself. He has such a high opinion of himself. He sees himself as such a celebrity.

      Any girl that would have anything to do with him is sick or crazy or both.


    44. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 12:00 pm

      Wow…in that phone transcript….Joran is lost in the conversations. He does not make any sense, and I know his attorneys and partents must be cringing while reading the transcript. This sociiopath thought he could explain his way out of the paper bag and it backfired on him.

      Good part is it sounds like the procecutor has the name of the person who went with Joran on the boat to dispose of Nalalee.

      The only card Joran uses for murdering and raping Natalee … was “that was just a stupid thing to do leave her on the beach” and now he says “that was just a stupid thing to say “that I dropped Natalee in the ocean”….

      Not to worry Joran, we all know very well THAT YOU ARE STUPID!!

    45. katablog on February 2nd, 2008 12:03 pm

      #32 I can only explain from my point of view. I do not hold all the people of Aruba or the Netherlands responsible for Natalee’s death and the resulting cover-up.

      I do hold the authorities and tourist officials of Aruba responsible not for the rape and murder and not for Joran van der sloot himself, but for the cover-up and the intense worry about tourism rather than the poor family of Natalee Holloway.

      I abhor the postings here that make fun of Anita’s weight, Joran’s looks, and make death threats. I think that is filthy and as scummy as Joran himself.

      I hold the Aruban media, tourist officials, investigators and government responsible for smearing Natalee and her family in an attempt to protect that scummy, horrific family called van der Sloot. I hold responsible the judge pals of Paulus who have given the van der sloots and Kalpoes free pass after free pass. I hold the Kalpoes responsible for lies.

      I could not go to Aruba for vacation, not because I think all people there are bad, but rather because I can see that the people in charge are not interested in my safety but are interested merely in my dollars. I might as well then just send my dollars on vacation and stay home.

      I have never seen such a horrific story. I have never heard of any family having to go through what the Holloways and Twittys have been put through because of this scummy kid, his parents and his friends. I am convinced that the Kalpoes know a lot more than they’ve told and are somehow involved.

      So while I wish no ill upon the Aruban or Dutch people, I do detest that some people on Aruba have covered up and supported one of the most vile people in the world and all because of money.

    46. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 12:15 pm

      I see – in the Youtube video – that I missed a piece of a sentence. Somewhere in the middle I have translated something Joran said as:
      - Joran: Yes, no…. No that was just a guy whom I just met at Aruba… Just recently when I was there.
      That must be:
      -Joran: Yes, no…. The worst thing is, that guy I only just met him at Aruba… Just recently when I was there.
      (So he is VERY well aware of another lie he’s told there; and he knows he’s in trouble anyway you look at it.)

      Note that the Youtube-video is edited to a summary of the whole conversation and the translation is a bit compressed.

    47. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 12:16 pm

      I am thinking the guy who helped in this sting might have been or was cloaked as a drug pusher or something to that effect where Joran thought he could trust him by sharing his dirty deeds about Natalee with him.

      Joran claims this guy had lots of money so why would he take any from Peter? Sunday it will make more sense when the video is played. Joran always has his off kilter take on life and things being the socio path he is.

    48. waterboy (Jerry) on February 2nd, 2008 12:17 pm

      I think when Natalee left with Joran; she thought it was okay, because her friends and others saw her leave with him. In her mind, she felt safe because she knew her friends could identify Joran if any thing happen, and that He (Joran) would never do anything to her because of this.

      What she did not realize is that Joran is not a normal person (he may even be demonic). He’s got this idea that he is such an exceptionally, unique and handsome individual. As all can see, this is as far from the truth as the East is from the West.

      He thought his daddy could get him out of any trouble he got into, and he may be right.

      I’m not saying I haven’t gotten my son out of trouble. He really hasn’t done anything criminal, but I (unlike Paulus) could and have been as hard on my son as a drill sergeant at boot camp. I didn’t want him to turn out to be someone who would hurt himself or others.

      If Joran had been my son, who is to say, I might have given up.
      I might have just let him rule the roost. However, I hope even if it came to a bloody confrontation every day of his life I would have retained my role as head of house. My Dad always maintained his rule, and his Dad before him, and his Dad before him. That’s the way it is suppose to be. That is what the Bible calls respect for parents, and a parent should demand respect.


    49. katablog on February 2nd, 2008 12:17 pm

      DisgustedMom: I disagree in that I really believe that Joran doesn’t understand why he does what he does. This is a man who has been raised by parents who allowed his behavior and made excuses for him all his life. He is a Psychopath and has no conscious. Of course he doesn’t understand himself because his behavior has no excuse and makes no sense. He’s simply use to having his own way and he doesn’t see how this affects others. He does whatever it takes to escape being caught.

      If he’s troubled in that conversation (and I’m not sure that he is (other than for himself) – I think he’s thinking on his feet and is sort of laughing nervously, not out of remorse, but because he has to explain quickly without having thought out his answers. Any follow-up interview (Greta’s probably already on the phone) will have much more organized and better thought out answers.

      as a psychopath without a conscious no one can really expect him to understand himself. It’s simply all about Joran. His “remorse” for Beth is not for Beth at all, but perhaps something someone else has said to him about “Poor Beth” or more probably, he’s read all the sympathy for Beth.

      Bottom line: no one can explain Joran.

    50. gekke aap on February 2nd, 2008 12:19 pm

      Latest news:

      Jorans grandma says: ‘joran is hiding at a place where no one can find him’
      Joran doesnt wants to talk with the press untill after Peter R de Vries’s show cause he’s scared to be arrested for the 3rd time.

    51. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 12:21 pm

      #41 SuzieQ…. I dissagree with your theory of “false confession” in regard to Joran.

      What you said does not apply to this situation. Joran is a suspect and was the last person to be seen with Natalee while she was alive.

      He made this confession to a friend not the police and now he is saying it is not true so that he will not be punished for his murderering crime.

    52. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 12:24 pm

      #40 Disgustedmom…

      Hans Mos has been put in a precarious situation by Mr De Vries. He had the tapes for about a week already and didn’t do squat until Peter made it public that he was going to air it on TV.


    53. brie on February 2nd, 2008 12:27 pm

      Joran has said in the past that Natalee was in an out of consciousness….maybe she wasn’t dead but after what he did to her he to get rid of her body. Remember what Deepak said about seeing all the chit on her and if they find her you will get 15 years.

      But think about it, someone gets a phone call in the middle of the early morning and rushes to help Joran get rid of her body….who in right mind would want to be a part of that…unless that person was also involved in the beginning…

    54. 10061906 on February 2nd, 2008 12:27 pm

      36 chris;
      Yes I do and the older I get the less I need.
      The more I get pissed off at the circumstances around Natalee’s disappearance the more I want to nail the SOB liar.
      Actually I was just finishing some artwork needed for the Travel Shows. I wanted to make sure my part was in place; just in case this falls through again.
      But thank you so much for taking an interest in my health.
      Since my near death experiences last year; I am surprised how much energy and resolve I now have.

      EURobert. Thank you for taking the time from I’m sure your busy schedule to post the transcript. It is appreciated.

    55. JusticeforNatalee on February 2nd, 2008 12:31 pm

      Joran has fled and is hiding?

      Yet another sign of GUILT GUILT GUILT.

    56. DEB on February 2nd, 2008 12:32 pm

      Katablog, i couldnt have stated it better. i think that this is exactly how most Americans feel. does anyone know exactly when we will be able to see this confession on us television??? thanks I cant wait to see him hang himself!

    57. waterboy (Jerry) on February 2nd, 2008 12:40 pm

      I heard a replay of a James Dobson call-in one time.
      This single mother called all hysterical and said that she went to wake her 14-year-old son up for school. He refused to get out of bed, and when she insisted, he attacked her and beat her up. Needless to say she was distraught.

      Dr. Dobson didn’t quite know were to go with the problem, and about the time he was getting ready to try to answer, a call came in from a Marine who was a drill instructor at a base in the same town this lady and her son lived in. He volunteered to help this lady with her son.

      The lady and the marine got together over the phone, and she gave the guy her address. He said he went by her house everyday on his way to work, and would be glad to drop in on her son, and help her with his lack of discipline.

      To make a long story short, Dr. Dobson had a follow up. The marine went by the lady’s house every day for almost a year. He had the boy saying yes sir, no sir, yes mom, no mom. He made him do exercises every morning. When he made his last call, the boy promised to always respect and honor his mother and her wishes. He also told the mother she could call him any time she needed help with the boy.

      Wouldn’t it have been nice if there had been a Major Pain in Joran’s life, instead of a pansy father, and an all-allowing mother?


    58. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 12:42 pm

      #53 Brie … But think about it, someone gets a phone call in the middle of the early morning and rushes to help Joran get rid of her body….who in right mind would want to be a part of that…unless that person was also involved in the beginning…

      Brie I agree with the above, who would want to get involved with disposing of a dead body at 3 in the morning?

      I would guess only the “Kalpoes” would since they were with Joran and Natalee and probably raped her when Joran was finished. It would make sense that Deepak would have helped Joran and maybe Satish was freaked out and wanted no part of it but both Joran and Deepak told him not to worry we will keep you out of this when they come looking for the girl(Natalee).

      Maybe when Joran squeeled out his confession he purposely choose to not involve Deepak.

    59. lisa on February 2nd, 2008 12:44 pm

      NO matter the outcoome 90% of the world will always look at Joran as a rapist murderer. His parents as vile selfish human beings.

      I had a son and daughter graduate the same year as Natalee. They went to COsta Rica with some classmates and teachers. Granted it was a little more supervised but I had to sign a consent saying I would not hold the school or guardians responsible if anything should happen. Thankfully it did not.

      Close your eyes , See your beautidul 18 year old daughter coming in and out of conciousness , being sexually assalted and then stop breathing, They take her body throw in in a boat and go out to sea and dump her like trash. It takes your breath away! How do live with that. There are no words!

    60. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 12:44 pm

      Keep in mind if Joran sold out Deepak by including him in the disposal of Natalee in the ocean, he would be afraid that “Deepak would turn on him and tell the whole story of how Natalee was murdered at the hands of Joran”.

    61. minnesota dad on February 2nd, 2008 12:49 pm

      “Joran: Yes.., I don’t know. I have discussed it with my parents and lawyers. And they told me how it all is… And they said I’ld better not say anything.”

      Is it me…or does it seem like Joran actually is trying to confess to his participation and everytime he does, Paulus interferes.

      Why would Paulus interfere? As a judge in training he should want truth and justice. Why wouldn’t Paulus want Joran to confess to his participation in the crimes?

      Me thinks Paulus helped dispose of Natalee. Me thinks Paulus doesn’t want a timeline developed for him for the night. Me thinks it was Paulus, impersonating a local cook, hitting on Natalee at the blackjack table at the casino. Me thinks Paulus doesn’t want to do 15 years in prison.

      Me thinks Paulus is covering up for himself.


    62. JusticeforNatalee on February 2nd, 2008 12:59 pm

      I hope Joran’s convicted, but even if he isn’t,
      the world will know what he has done to Natalee.

      People will be able to see through his lies. Not everyone is stupid like his supporters and tourism flunkies.

      And also the world will know how Aruba let Joran get away with
      the death of Natalee.

      DeVries’s findings will be shown in the US on Sunday and also I hear, De Vries will be on Oprah’s show. If that is true, over 20 million viewers again will know that Natalee was killed on Aruba and the perps were not punished.

      Kiss tourism goodbye if this travesty of justice continues.
      The American public will be outraged. Count on it.
      In fact, BANK on it, Aruba.

      Put the perps in jail!

    63. JusticeforNatalee on February 2nd, 2008 1:04 pm

      #56 Deb,

      Watch ABC, 20/20, on Monday night.

    64. brie on February 2nd, 2008 1:05 pm

      So Joran is hiding…where can he hide…everyone knows what he looks like…maybe he’s at Grandma’s…or are the police protecting him at Paulus’s request…maybe they put him in a so called safe house…or he’s just plain out on the run..

    65. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 1:06 pm

      #61 Minnestoda Dad…. yes, it could have very well been Paulus who disposed of Natalee and Deepak and Satish knew this because Joran was with them and they parked their car close to the Racquet Club while all this was happening.

      So if it was Paulus and not Deepak in the boat, Deepak knows what happened…knows that Joran murdered Natalee.

      The Kalpoes know what happened they are not innocent.

    66. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 1:08 pm

      #64 Brie, I want to be more creative and I will say that Joran is down the street at the local pub sucking down his shots with beer chasers. He thinks life is fine and he will once again be set free.

      He is wrong.

    67. waterboy (Jerry) on February 2nd, 2008 1:08 pm

      I think we are dealing with sophisticated criminal predators here (maybe and probable a ring of them).

      If what Joran is describing on tape was not Natalee, it was probable some other girl. I surmise he’s done this before. So much so that he and (others, other) have all the details worked out. i.e. murder and disposal of body.


    68. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 1:10 pm

      I would think that Jorans attorneys and parents are furious with him for doing that phone interview yesterday….ha ha… they just can’t stop him.

    69. lisa on February 2nd, 2008 1:13 pm

      Partial transcript of Anita during the wine throwing intereview.

      I would like the investigation to continue, said Anita van der Sloot, mother of Joran van der Sloot, one of three youths extensively interrogated by police and prosecutors. I would also like to see an investigation into the investigation, she added.

      Anita van der Sloot said her family, as well as Holloway’s family, needed answers.

      I think it’s also very important that for them _ for everybody, but particularly for them. There has to be clarity, she said. Then we can move on. As long as that doesn’t that happen, there will be questions, there will be fingers pointing at Joran.

      WELL ANITA your prayers have been answered. Now there is clarity in the case unfortunately now there are fingers and prison time being pointed towards Joran.

    70. minnesota dad on February 2nd, 2008 1:13 pm

      62 – J4N

      “Put the perps in jail!”

      This is Aruba’s quandry. Who are the perps. It is a long list….

      Paulus Van Der Sloot
      Van der Stratten
      AHATA’s Board
      Karin Janssen
      Judge Smid
      Other Judges involved
      Julia Renfro
      Kalpoe 1
      Kalpoe 2
      and many, many more who have fled the craphole island.

      The problem lies in taking down Joran you must take down the Law Enforcement, Justice, and Judicial structures of Aruba. Everyone goes down.

      And thus, as promising as this is I think it will come down to this. Yes, DeVries has “solved” the case in a simplistic manner – Joran was a main perp and got rid of the victim. But, there will not be enough evidence to convict.

      Game over. Everyone gets to keep their jobs. No one goes to jail. Joran is known as a known murderer with a big bank account (there are a lot of folks on the above list, including AHATA, that would be pleased to pad Joran’s bank account to take the full rap on this case).

      And this, is how cover-ups work.


    71. LilPuma on February 2nd, 2008 1:15 pm

      A sociopath doesn’t actually feel compassion, love or concern for others. They learn to fake it.

      I believe Hans Mos can and will get the job done if the corrupt Aruban officials and friends of the Van der Sloot’s and organized crime factions don’t stop it. Peter asks him if he’s a happy man. To me, that says Peter knows Hans wants to nail these guys.

      A poster here (on the FP) named Dave posted in the last few days that the Aruban people would hang J2K in an instant if they could.

      From a legal standpoint, if some of the conversations Joran had (on tape) reveal things that can be corroborated by something Hans Mos already has, especially if some of it was never revealed to the media, they’ve got him. This case needs to end, but legally, rightfully, as so many have been hurt. Arubans in power had been covering for their own for too long and Beth and the media exposed it.

      My prayers go out to Beth and Dave and other members of the Holloway family. Also to the good men on the Persistence.

    72. brie on February 2nd, 2008 1:23 pm

      I wonder what Anita and Paulus have said to Joran….outside of keep your mouth shut!!!!!

    73. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 1:25 pm

      Paulus is most certainly involved right up to his eyeballs! Remember Deepak’s statement, “Joran, your own father?” Maybe Paulus got a big turn on and raped Natalee before loading her up to dump her out to sea?

      When will Joran be considered a fugitive? Once he has been declared a fugitive, isn’t it a crime to assist with hiding him? Or, do they not recognize aiding and abetting in the Dutch world?

      Paulus, you dumb judge wanna be….. your ass is going to go down too! Give up parenting, your other boys have no chance after what you and your fat ass wife have done!

    74. lisa on February 2nd, 2008 1:26 pm

      From what i can tell from dutch websites (my dutch english translations ran out) Most of the Dutch are saying take him away . He is a liar and they want an end to it.

      JOran OMG there is no where to turn. Shut your eyes. who do you see., Perhaps the face of a helpless girl whose only mistake was trustung you!


    75. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 1:40 pm

      #73 Betsy… Paulus is most certainly involved right up to his eyeballs! Remember Deepak’s statement, “Joran, your own father?” Maybe Paulus got a big turn on and raped Natalee before loading her up to dump her out to sea?

      Betsy I am thinking Deepak’s comment can refer to Paulus disposing of the body (Natalee). I would not think he would have sex with Natalee after she had died.

      I think Deepak is saying: Your own father Joran who is an attorney and is suppose to abide by the law, helped you with your crime after you murdered Natalee and he got rid of the crime/body for you.

      I bet Deepak and Satish sat with Joran in their car until the job of getting rid of Natalee was over with.

    76. brie on February 2nd, 2008 1:40 pm

      Joran might be hiding out with Guildo, just thought about that…anybody know where Koen is…I know his family lives in Georgia but I’m not sure if Koen is there…I had heard once he went to school in the Netherlands..

    77. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 1:44 pm

      I am hoping that other girls who were given this date rape drug by Joran and the 2K’s would come forward and would not be afraid this time to do that. Joran said there were about 20 other tourists he had met with before and nothing bad happened…so someone knows something. I pray they talk.

      It would help close this case with Joran permanently behind bars.

    78. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 1:45 pm

      I don’t know if somebody posted and translated this telegraaf-article somewhere: http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3189846/_Moeder___Ik_kan_nu_gaan_rouwen___.html?p=3,1

      Mother: “I can now go mourn’

      AMSTERDAM – For Beth Twitty, the mother of Natalee Holloway, an end has come to her nagging uncertainty, that has continued for nearly three years now. The American says this in an interview with De Telegraaf.

      After arriving in the Netherlands Thursday and seeing the hidden-camera-images of Peter R. De Vries for Twitty all the pieces fell into place. “I no longer dared to hope for it, but I finally know now what has happened to Natalee. Al that time there was a very small chance that she would still live. That one percent of hope that she was still alive, is gone. “I am now one hundred percent sure”, she says very emotional. Finaly she can go on, said Twitty.

    79. brie on February 2nd, 2008 1:47 pm

      Sounds like Aruba and the Dutch as well, all feel the same way about Joran…take him to the dungeon…

      I wonder if the Sloot’s are even stepping foot out of their house…

    80. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 1:50 pm

      Who knows once Joran is convicted for Natalee’s death or if they waive that and convict him for disposing of her body……..MAYBE some of the other perps will talk like Koen, etc.

    81. alice on February 2nd, 2008 1:50 pm

      What is the link to fact that Joran is in hiding per grandma?

    82. arievdberg on February 2nd, 2008 1:56 pm

      #73 What a load of crap. I also think Joran has something to do with it. he`s probably guilty as hell.

      But why question our entire legal system.
      Our legal system exists much longer then the legal system in the US. You dont no nothing about it.

      OJ got away with murder in the us, Michael jackson with child molesting. so dont act like were a bunch of fools who dont know what they`re doing.

    83. Jeff on February 2nd, 2008 1:59 pm

      Does anyone know if the statements and transcripts on this site factual ?


    84. 10061906 on February 2nd, 2008 2:03 pm

      As a reknowned physhic (yeh right) I said that they would find Joran in an apartment house in the Netherlands.
      At the foot of the bed would be a belt.
      He died from hypoxia, administered by choking. In this case to inhance sexual desires. Most common in the gay circles. It is a fitting end as that is what he used on Natalee to render her unconscious and defenseless and enhance his desire for power over her.
      The fact that he did not have a condom translates to “the damn thing broke”. (He always uses a condom and at least twenty times before nothing ever went wrong) (Cheap Aruban prophylactics)
      Now how the hell do I get rid of my DNA evidence. No problem. I will just get rid of the victim and the evidence.
      She looks like she is dead anyway.
      Death of a victim during the act of a felony I believe in any countries’ law books that translates to man-slaughter.
      Sorry Joran looking in my crystal ball I see no future for you. Nothing but emptiness.

      76 brie
      Guido and Koen are both in the Netherlands. Sander stayed back in Georgia and is going to school there.
      I don’t believe either one of them would do in Joran. It will be someone not involved with the case. A long standing resident of the redlight district. Perhaps originally living in Amsterdam.
      He, Joran is ready to self destruct, commit suicide or be stupid enough to get in bed with a transvestite.

    85. david r on February 2nd, 2008 2:03 pm

      I’ll bet Koen Gottenbos is getting antsy.

      It looks like another 60 days in the slammer for J2K to see if anyone will spill the beans. Isn’t this the medieval procedure that Dutch law provides?

    86. Chuck on February 2nd, 2008 2:04 pm

      Silly Joran… I certainly wish you were flitting about on the lam in the American Southeast; my friends and I would certainly like to meet you….

      It’s about time, given what a moron-goat-rodeo circus-clown-sideshow it’s been for the Aruban “authorities” thus far. Shame on ‘em.

      Justice for Natalee? Let’s hope so.

    87. 10061906 on February 2nd, 2008 2:07 pm

      jeff 83: never saw this site. Looks interesting. I have to clear my mind and check it out later. Thanks.
      SM: That site is run by Jonathon/Shizaru at Scrux. He’s a stickler for details and I imagine most of the information on his site is a factual as it can be. (klaasend)

    88. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 2:09 pm

      #84…1006… You know I was thinking on what you said about Joran and the belt choking Natalee…true…

      He would not drop her off at a hospital and run….because they would want to know why she had bruises all around her neck and also they would want to know how the date rate drug got in her system.

    89. lisa on February 2nd, 2008 2:10 pm

      I believe that Paulus was involved to some way. Remember from the first day Paul gave Joran and the two brothers legal advice. NO BODY NO CASE Did he help dispose of the body, who knows but he definately counseled the boys on what to say.

    90. nurturer on February 2nd, 2008 2:11 pm

      What seems to be forgotten in all this excitement, are the comments made by Deepak Kalpoe that they ALL had sex with Natalee and that we wouldn’t believe how easy it was.

      Call me naive, but I think they were all there when Natalee died and the crab cage didn’t just get up and walk away on its own.

    91. david r on February 2nd, 2008 2:16 pm

      “It doesn’t change the truth of this case. And the truth is, Joran had nothing to do with Natalee’s death.” — Joe Tacopina.

      Joe, did he have anything to do with disposing of her body?

    92. mayan_moons on February 2nd, 2008 2:19 pm

      Think about it……would Deepox really express suprise & a level of DISGUST *btw the only person besides Jossy who’s shown any disgust at all) when he says to Jurine

      “Your Own Father” if all Paules did was dispose of Natalee’s body?? I think not…..Deepox knows Paules would cover for Jurine. Thats a given.

      No that disgust Deepox expressed is knowing that Paules wanted in on the drug & rape action his son & his little pimp friend’s had going on. (20 times before remember)

      The question is did Deepox know in advance that Paules wanted to be a part of this game? I don’t think so as his disgust denotes but Deepox had no problem putting the pieces of the puzzle together once he knew of or saw the casino video footage of Paules sitting next to Natalee, chatting her up & flirting with her a mere 5 hours before she is Never seen again.

      Jurine said he wasn’t really interested in Natalee as he sat at the blackjack table that night but maaaaan Paules sure looked interested in Natalee as he tries engaging her in conversation but watch how Natalee recoils from Paules even as she tries to be polite & points in in Jurine’s direction while still looking at Paules as if Paules has told her that Jurine is his son.

    93. katablog on February 2nd, 2008 2:40 pm

      I appreciate the Dutch and Arubans who come to SM and tell us what is going on, especially the translations for articles we can’t read. I think it is pointless to argue over justice systems and which is best/worst. What is undeniable is that Aruba has managed to evade justice for the perps of this crime because of corruption.

      Over the years numerous trolls claiming to be from Aruba or visiting Aruba have come here and said all manner of nasty things about Natalee, Beth and Americans. So I guess it’s become a game of tit for tat where Americans are angry and say nasty things about a whole nationality instead of the responsible ones.

      I know I have been very angry at some of the things said on international TV, Aruba newspapers, Aruba sites and here because they are so cruel and ugly. But we really must remember, these are people hired by Aruba’s tourism to do anything to get back their tourists and be gone with the Natalee Holloway case.

      I do beg people to stop biting the hand that feeds us – those who tell us in truth what is going on in the Netherlands and Aruba.

    94. lisa on February 2nd, 2008 2:42 pm

      If the Aruban police has any wits about them they would be monitering any calls to Deepak, Satish etc. They must be squirming right now. Not sure what exactly is on the tape. One thing is for sure they see that they coould go back into jail too and this time one of them could be jsut plain pissed off at Joran big fat mouth.

      Maybe Joran called into the television show to let them know that he is denying his confession.

      I believe this is going to crack their silence.

    95. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 2:42 pm

      #92 Mayan_moons, I don’t know my theory is Deepak’s comment “and your own father” to Joran was that your own father got rid of Natalee’s body after you murdered her.

      Previous statements from Deepak showing vile disgust for Natalee being a loose/whore of a women does not add up then because this is a guy who drove around watching porn DVD’s in his car and he would not have been so disgusted if she had flirted etc with Joran.

      No he is putting the victim down because he has guilt on his filthy hands and wants to minimize the damage by painting her as a loose women.

      Also, his comment about Jorans father, he knows that an attorney is suppose to uphold the law in their high status position to serve the community yet Jorans father committed a horrendous crime by disposing of Natalee’s body…so that is what I think Deepaks comments were about…

    96. JusticeforNatalee on February 2nd, 2008 2:44 pm

      Don’t worry about Joey. He is just blowing typical
      defense attorney smoke.

      Will Aruba now be known as “Cover-up Island”?

      I guess that blows that welcoming “Bonbini” slogan right out of the water!


    97. JusticeforNatalee on February 2nd, 2008 2:49 pm

      I don’t think we need to make comments about Joran’s
      sexual preferences.

      I don’t really care whether he is gay or not.
      That is not a crime.

      But I do care about what he did to Natalee. THOSE are crimes,
      and that is all we should care about.

    98. mayan_moons on February 2nd, 2008 2:56 pm

      As vile as those people on Aruba are for trying to cover up for Jurine & Paules’s evil deeds & blaming the victim (Natalee) for her fate they are not the one’s sitting with & flirting with Natalee at the HI casino. They aren’t the one’s swooping in & seen leading Natalee out of C&C’s on May 30, 2005. They aren’t the one’s witnessed having 2 contact’s with Natalee as Paules was….once at the casino and at 4 am near McDonald’s.

      Most of Aruba’s official’s & schill’s could end this right now by prosecuting the people last seen with Natalee and pulling out some of the evidence they’ve been hiding for almost 3 years. No way do i think some evidence survived to be used someday……even if only for blackmail purposes or waiting for the day the reward money could be collected with their safety intact.

    99. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 3:00 pm

      Just in the Dutch RTL4 news: Joran is in hiding because he recieved a LOT of threats for example on his hyves.nl page (of which I don’t have the precise adress now; maybe later).

    100. arievdberg on February 2nd, 2008 3:01 pm

      Latest news in holland: Aruba did not ask for his arrest. Theyre gonna wait till they know what he said on the peter de vries tapes

    101. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 3:12 pm

      Joran’s hyves.nl page: http://joran-sloot.hyves.nl/

    102. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 3:15 pm

      When Joran goes to prison will he continue to enjoy the protection his status as the son of a judge wanna be has afforded him? In other words, will they isolate him from the other animals or put him right into the middle of them?

      {{edit – please stop these types of references (klaasend) }}

    103. mayan_moons on February 2nd, 2008 3:28 pm

      Well Sharon don’t forget that Paules was NOT a lawyer nor a judge or going to be a judge on May 30, 2005.

    104. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 3:32 pm

      Well Mayan_moons they sure did give his son special treatment as if he were royalty or something. He is going to get the royal treatment in prison.

    105. jon on February 2nd, 2008 3:35 pm

      If the guy has such important new undercover information, why do we have to wait until Sunday to hear it all revealed?

      I, for one, do not believe Joran is the guilty one.

    106. mayan_moons on February 2nd, 2008 3:38 pm

      Remember the ceremony for Paules’s becoming a lawyer was waaaaay after Natalee was targeted and victimized and coincided with the news that Paules would joing the law firm representing his own son……never have i seen such conflict of interest when Carlos literally joined forces with PVDS knowing all he knew.

    107. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 3:43 pm

      If Paulus raped Natalee with his son and helped dispose of her, isn’t that enough for him to lose his right to practice law forever?

    108. mayan_moons on February 2nd, 2008 3:50 pm

      No way am i arguing that Jurine hasn’t gotton & will prolly still be given special treatment on Aruba.

      Neither am i saying i know the whole timeline and the exact role each of these men played in the crimes against Natalee. But that casino footage shows Paules was hitting on Natalee and at the least the Kalpuke’s are guilty of being complicit in the drugging and kidnapping as they are seen leaving C&C’s with her. Most certainly Deepox said vile things about Natalee……Skeeter’s tape proved that a fact but all this business about Jurine calling Deepox….then Satish to pick him up doesn’t make sense if they were with Jurine & Natalee the whole time.

    109. 10061906 on February 2nd, 2008 3:54 pm

      Justice for Natalee 97:
      I disagree. His sexual preferences have a direct psychological impact in this case and what he could be capable of committing. That is why he did what we believe he did to Natalee. The “three faces of eve” were nothing when compared to Joran and how capable he is at lying.

    110. Jerry from Ohio on February 2nd, 2008 3:57 pm

      Betsy #73 this Paulus is also a VERY VERY sick man just watch him and Listen to people describe his actions , Sound like a rational man to you ?
      As I have said, I have always had dreams since childhood that a majority have come to fruation over time and I have seen in dreams sequences I am sorry that I cannot say if she were alive or dead during these sessions of Paulus and yes I am sure it is him and her in the dreams on top of Natalee having intercourse and I also seem to have an intruding thought about Anita having a very unhealthy interest in Natalee’s underwear that Joran either showed her and then described to her in great detail . This always seemed to me as a very unnatural conversation for a mother to have with her son but then again sh always has talked about Joran as her “Delicious Sporter ” sort of sounding like she is describing a lover rather then a son but then again there are women that when very unhappy about their own chosen mates that go on to have both psychological as well as Physical relationships with their sons .
      and as for Paulus having sex with a young HS school girl from the US well need I say I would not put it past him for a second as well as quite a few other men in power in the Caribbean islands and lands it is really quite common in fact .
      Jerry from ohio

    111. Gabriel Leo on February 2nd, 2008 4:07 pm

      I Really see nothing happening with just a confession by Van der Sloot without hard evidence. That’s why no arrests have been made as yet and I believe none will be made either. Unlike being judged by a jury of his pierce, only way to condemn him is to find who ever helped him to dispose of the body, as he “so Called” stated or a witness who saw the actions taking place.
      In the end you will end up bashing Aruba again for not arresting him, but I see no other way.
      He has started to dismiss what he said, even though I find him a roach that has to be squashed, he is right when he said “let them prove if what I said is wrong” (there’s that Jiminy Cricket called Daddy Sloot advising him and of course his attorneys Aruban and USA)

    112. Carpe Noctem on February 2nd, 2008 4:11 pm

      Joran: Yes.., I don’t know. I have discussed it with my parents and lawyers. And they told me how it all is… And they said I’ld better not say anything.


      … well whooooopity doooooooo, good going
      on keeping such a low profile by clubbing
      all night, and phoning local talk showsssss!

      Ya know,

      The Kalpoes are starting to
      look like NASA engineers
      compared to you.


      I’m almost positive after hearing
      you do a phoner for that Dutch tv show,
      Tacopina and Rosie had to buy new couches today… due to their sphinctasssss pinching holes
      in the seat cushions.

      Taco & Pitbull… you could
      always dump him today
      and save some face!

      Even Geragos dipped on Michael Jackson, when he
      walked into court wearing pajamas, & themzzzz dang
      fuzzy house slippers!

      runnnn… run while you can! -j4n

    113. nurturer on February 2nd, 2008 4:33 pm

      #101 – It’s him. If anyone wants to send Joran a message, instead of preaching to the choir, that URL is the place.

    114. brie on February 2nd, 2008 4:43 pm

      EURobert…thank you so much for all of your help and time here to give us a hand….

    115. Carpe Noctem on February 2nd, 2008 4:57 pm

      But I was just incredibly stupid of me. Really, really, really not normally… so dumb.


      Actually, you’re wrong Joran. Doing stupid things
      is your trademark signature. That is how we KNOW
      it is you.

      Like the Lone Ranger
      and his silver bullet, or
      Zorro carving a Z in
      things with
      his sword.

      DUDE, you are complete & total moron.

      You got forked!

      If Dr. Hodges did a thought print on your a$$,
      I think it would be scribbled in crayons, on a very small cocktail napkin… and all the R’s would
      be written backwards.


      Justice 4 Natalee Ann

    116. Allan on February 2nd, 2008 5:02 pm

      Paulus told the pimps(accessory) no body no case because they were involved plus him and also had to cover for Paulus.

      Remember Deepak, You’re own father! Must have gone to Sloots house. That would answer for monkey on the phone and don’t know any of these people.

    117. Betsy on February 2nd, 2008 5:17 pm

      Where can I find more information about Joran murdering his dog? Like hello Paulus and Anita! This was like a really really big warning sign that your son is a sicko and you ignored it. Now look what he’s done!

      Hello McFly, anyone home? knock knock on hollow head of Paulus and Anita. Since you like to gamble Paulus I will put it in your terms…

      Time to cash in your chips on Joran. He’s done! If you do it now there may be time to save the two young sons you have at home. The example you’ve set thus far virtually guarantees they will not turn out. Too bad losers all the way around. Evil van der Sloots one and all.

    118. native_islander on February 2nd, 2008 5:22 pm

      To: #70 Minnesota Dad…

      Again, you want to punish the natives, but let’s look at the nationality of those involved, using your “Aruba’s quandry list”

      Joran van der Sloot (Holland born)
      Paulus van der Sloot (Holland born)
      Jan van der Straaten (Holland born)
      Gerold Dompig (Suriname born)
      AHATA’s Board (Mostly USA born)
      Karin Janssen (Holland born)
      Judge Smid (Holland born)
      Other Judges involved (Holland born)
      Julia Renfro (USA born)
      Boeti (Holland born)
      Guido(Holland born)
      Geoffrey (Holland born)
      Koehn (Holland born)
      Anita (Holland born)
      Deepak Kalpoe (Suriname born)
      Satish Kalpoe (Suriname born)

      Don’t worry! The trully Arubans are fed up with these incompetent foreigners. We’re fighting to get back REAL ARUBANS back in key positions in the ALE, the Judicial System, Department Heads, and even in the AHATA.

      After this is all over, I know that a group is preparing a protest, demanding that the entire Van der Sloot family be BANNED FROM OUR ISLAND. We don’t need them! A friend of mine had to get a lawyer recently, and Paulus (of all people) was appointed to him. My friend refused, and decided to better forfeit the case, and not let the sweating pig defend him.

      I’m a real islander. My people are hurt… because of foreigners establishing themselves here in key positions. Be kind to us natives!

    119. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 5:25 pm

      PRdeVries has payed the undercover-cameraman € 5000 per month (total € 25000,-.) He’s in the Dutch Nova-show now.

    120. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 5:27 pm

      PRdeVries says that Joran confesses that Natalee died in his arms!

    121. nurturer on February 2nd, 2008 5:34 pm

      #117 – Why not write him and ask?


    122. katablog on February 2nd, 2008 5:35 pm

      #118 Native Islander: If the sloots are banned from Aruba – that would certainly be one step in the right direction.

      What does Aruba plan to do about all the lying and corrupt “investigators” in this case?

      What about the things your Minister of Justice and PM have said about Beth and Natalee?

    123. nurturer on February 2nd, 2008 5:39 pm

      #118- Native Islander – Tell your friend he made the right move.

    124. brie on February 2nd, 2008 5:40 pm

      Allan…that would explain the monkey on the phone and don’t know any of these people…Freddy and Koen were at Joran’s apartment that night..and maybe others….we also know Koen’s boat was in the water that day…and we also know Steve Croes from the party boat lied for Joran about the Holiday Inn..

      Greta said on her last trip to Aruba, the monkeys cage was empty…did Joran due the monkey in too?

    125. brie on February 2nd, 2008 5:46 pm

      Where are the Sloot’s welcome…I guess they will have to go to Venezuela…

    126. Ellen on February 2nd, 2008 5:47 pm

      From the article : http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/181761,dutch-youth-admits-role-in-death-of-natalee-holloway–feature.html


      According to the reports, Van der Sloot had sexual intercourse with Holloway just before she disappeared. She allegedly passed out during the sexual act, following which Van der Sloot panicked and called a friend.

      The friend took her body on a boat and then dropped it in the ocean. It remains unclear whether Holloway was dead at the time or just unconscious.

      Van der Sloot had been arrested twice on suspicion of involvement in Holloway’s disappearance, along with two other friends suspected of pulling the body onto the boat.

      To the best of my recollection, there were only two friends that had been arrested twice…. the kalpoe brothers.

    127. brie on February 2nd, 2008 5:47 pm

      #124…meant to say..did Joran do the monkey in too?

    128. brie on February 2nd, 2008 5:51 pm

      If Natalee died in his arms, why didn’t he call 911…he had a cell phone…and who is he to pronounce her dead anyway…

    129. Carl the Detective on February 2nd, 2008 6:03 pm

      you are the dumbest guy in the world. really really dumb. you were in the clear stupid! give it up, your dumbness is too much to overcome at this point. you are the worlds biggest idiot, you will go down in the criminal record book as the dumbest, most ignorant criminal in the world. enjoy that.

    130. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 6:05 pm

      #128 – Brie

      You’re absolutely right about that.
      Yesterday a lawyer said that the fact they may have dumped Natalee in the ocean without a DOCTOR establishing she was dead probably makes them guilty of something that is close to murder. (Don’t know the exact judicial terms for that.)

    131. Bob on February 2nd, 2008 6:06 pm

      And so the corrupt and failing officials (Top to bottom) sat around in a power meeting to discusss last ditch efforts to stop the tourism hemoraging, and this “let’s set up the old Pathological Liar defense” that Taco suggested.\ is the best they can come up with? Is there an active live brain cell on that extire sandbar?

      Uh-uh, won’t work. ARUBA has again drawn focus to itself as the worldwide target of disgust. Nice advertisement for the world to want to ever go there. I don’t think we even need to fan the BOYCOTT flames…they keep splashing gasoline on an already out-of-control fire all by themselves.

    132. Bob on February 2nd, 2008 6:16 pm

      At this point in time, from a purely business standpoint, there is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY to reverse the damage to the ARUBAN economy for years to come.

      Prosecuting and jailing Joran; his family for the coverup, the corrupt officials who went beyond common decency to not help the victims family, and worse, to spin it was the Twitty-Holloway families who were somehow at fault; simply will not work in the court of world opinion. Throwing the corrupt government out won’t help either, it’s way beyond all that.

      The glass is broken, no amount of glue will repair it.

    133. buckeye on February 2nd, 2008 6:18 pm



      Briesen (who sent tourism workers to justice to “help”)
      The other ministers who together run Aruba

      all Arubans??

      They had the power to turn the case over to the FBI and chose to go with “the home boys”…for a reason…IMO

    134. Scarlet on February 2nd, 2008 6:28 pm

      SM, Carpe, 1906, and the rest of the monkeys. I just want to say your love, devotion, and many hours spent trying to find justice for Natalee will hopefully be close at hand. We wait as we have so many times before. Surely Joran and all involved in hurting Natalee must pay. I will never forget the look on Beth’s face on that video with Mr. DeVries talking to her in the background just after she had viewed some of his evidence. I will forever be haunted by the pain this journey has had for Natalee’s family and all that love her. She was so special. I have not posted in a very long time, but have followed this case from day one. I am drawn to SM multiple times a day to keep in touch. So many of you are like family. Carpe you still keep me laughing even in the saddest times. I will never forget any of you. So we wait.


    135. Melissa on February 2nd, 2008 6:35 pm

      To #118 Native Islander – The NATIONALITIES of all are Dutch (except the Americans.) If you are truly a native islander, you hold a Dutch passport and, therefore, your nationality is Dutch and you were born in Aruba.

      I know the direction you are going – blaming all your crime on outsiders.

    136. brie on February 2nd, 2008 6:43 pm

      Should of just let our FBI deal with it and it would of been over along time ago….and Natalee’s family wouldn’t of been through all the pain they had to endue…Joran your a pig…a criminal…a sociopath..a heartless creature…a spoiled brat..an f’n sporter…an alcoholic…abusive and destructive…sadistic…you enjoy seeing pain….well I hope your punishment will take care of your life….just like you took Natalee’s…

      Don’t know if you going to jail but if not you won’t make it on the outside anymore…too many people are watching and waiting…somebody is going to do you in dude….!!!!!! And no one with lift a finger to do anything about it……..

    137. brie on February 2nd, 2008 6:45 pm

      How does Joran know that Natalee didn’t go into a comma? He doesn’t…

    138. Richard on February 2nd, 2008 6:49 pm

      So now Joran is denying the truth of what he told his friend … one has to wonder at this point, is somebody coaching him to try to portray himself as insane?

      Because maybe whoever is prompting him thinks that his best chance at this point is being found not guilty by reason of insanity. Who knows?

      And who wants to waste time thinking about the nature of the mind and character of Joran van der Sloot? The whole family is too repulsive … the question now, at least to me, is:

      Time and time again we have heard from Aruba that this case CAN be prosecuted in the absence of a body. Karin Janssen said it. Hans Mos said it.
      Some Dutch law professors said it.

      Yet every time that push comes to shove, it seems that the same judge comes along and says there’s no evidence of a crime.

      So will Aruba play the same tired old card once again? Without a body … we can’t prove that Joran ISN’T lying?

      Those people who have seen and/or heard what Peter deVries has on tape and/or video seem optimistic. But as Jug Twitty said in the article I posted a few threads back, we’ve been down this path before.

      We’ll see what comes from the program.

      Meanwhile, folks, let’s remember … Aruba is doing its damndest to show to the world that it is an unsafe place to visit.

      Let’s help Aruba out. Spread the “boycott Aruba” message as widely as you can. Take part in the upcoming Boston and New York demonstrations if you can. STAND UP FOR NATALEE, AND HER FAMILY, AND OUR FELLOW AMERICANS … HELP STARE DOWN ATA!

      Show up at the protests if you can. Let your legislators know … we are NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

      Boycott Aruba … as if your life were on the line.

    139. kayjay on February 2nd, 2008 6:54 pm

      The OM et al have had the tapes for a week..why are they waiting for the DeVries program. Me think there is “something rotten in Denmark” (Aruba).
      Here’s what to do Mr. Mos..its very simple…find an impartial judge and:
      1. Arrest JVDS
      2. Arrest PVDS and Anita
      3. Arrest the Kalpoes
      4. Arrest Von Straaten
      5. Arrest The boat Brigade..Koen, Croes etc.
      6. Arrest Dompig
      7. Arrest Michael Dompig
      8. Arrest the Prime Minister
      Arubans time to march on your city hall and demand

    140. Miss-Underestimated on February 2nd, 2008 6:57 pm

      The accidental death scenario is bs, let’s not forget Paulus was/is big on the island, he could have create the perfect back drop for accidental.

      An autopsy would have defied the accident along with all the marks of a beating.

      If if was an accident they could have left Natalee on the beach or dropped her off somewhere.

    141. brie on February 2nd, 2008 7:00 pm

      The only way Joran could of had sex with Natalee was via date-rape drug or brutal rape…who really knows…maybe he never even got that far if Natalee fought him off…lost his uncontrollable temper and killed her…maybe he just lies about the sex to impress the pimp club and another one of his attempts to degrade Natalee….

    142. Miss-Underestimated on February 2nd, 2008 7:02 pm

      I recall Karen Jaansen claiming that a procescution could be made without a body.

    143. Arubaanse on February 2nd, 2008 7:03 pm


      Did you read what ppl are writing about him? Wow they sure hate him.
      I’m also member of his Hyves so i can read and write anything and anytime i want 2 on his hyves.

      Goed Robert, slaap lekker straks:) ik ga nu naar bed.

      which means tonight we will finally see what we have been waiting for.

      Take care everybody

    144. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 7:05 pm

      According to this article the OM at Aruba doesn’t know everything yet; PRdV is still working on his show, his conclusions, etc.

      And this satirical site talks about how big PRdV has become the last days; if he’s ready with Joran he may go after Osama Bin Laden…

      Good evening, good night!

    145. pissed on February 2nd, 2008 7:09 pm

      RE: “Yesterday a lawyer said that the fact they may have dumped Natalee in the ocean without a DOCTOR establishing she was dead probably makes them guilty of something that is close to murder.”

      Forget it! We all know that even if they had a mountain of evidence they would still never prosecute the brat. They could find the body, a bloody rock with his fingerprints on it, the glass she drank form with traces of a drug in it – they still wouldn’t prosecute. From DAY ONE these slugs including the police chief and the judges have been working overtime to not persecute the brat. What makes anyone think that any evidence would change that? By the way, why has ALE never made an attempt to locate the boat and the boat-operator who assisted in dumping the body – ANSWER – they don’t care. They will NEVER prosecute this brat because they don’t believe a child of one of their own elite should ever be punished for raping and murdering any tourist.

    146. Maggie on February 2nd, 2008 7:09 pm

      Clearly this appears to be a date/rape/drug/ gone bad scene… and no way do I believe if you’ve done nothing illegal, that you would go out and get rid of a body of a consensual date you are on.
      Natalee was not the promiscious type to go off with a stranger like this.. Never did on Aruba, until these 3 showed up a half hour before closing time to move in on an intoxicated female. No way do I believe Joran ever told her the truth about anything. Natalee’s friends say Natalee pointed ahead and said she was going back to the hotel with the other MB students. Why was Deepak and Satish telling Joran if they find the girl, he will get 15 years? Why did they say if they find the girl, they will see that sh*t? Not to mention the criminal type behaviour the Kalpoes engaged in also. Paulus the night after Natalee is missing is looking up drugs and alcohol and the effects on young people..then lawyers according to his pc records. What was that 8 and a half minute call to Deepak’s number that night..the longest ever according to the prosecutor. Paulus and Anita have been caught in numerous lies also. It’s hard to believe she teaches kids and he is a person of the law. Seeing how he took his own son out to break the law and gave him permission to do so again the next night , then claimed he sneaked out. Anita tried to tell everyone her son is a sporter, don’t drink, gamble for money, used drugs, smoke..On Devries interview she said she took Joran twice for conseling because of his gambling, she didn’t want him in a casino, yet Paulus took him out to one and left him, which put the whole night into play. Paulus brags he had sleepovers in his room with lots of little girls.. They put him in his own place at 14. Joran brags he’s been drinking since he was 15, takes a case of beer to get him drunk, he smokes, and was bragging of how he beat drug tests in jail. We’ve seen his anger problems, stories of him stealing, vandalism, beating his brother up, Deepak telling he got a girl pregnant. JQK’s papers of 3 girls complaints. Like Mama Kalpoe says when they were caught lying, everyone lies, No, Mama, everyone don’t lie when the person they are last seen with is missing.

      The conflicts of interest in the case are astounding.. Someone needs to investigate all of them. Steve Cohen which the AhATA said was up to date on all the material in this case, went out to speak in the Caribbean and said 2 of the boys had sex with Natalee and he expected them to be charged with rape and murder.

      There are so many dirty people in this case. Investigate why Renfro injected herself in this story and put out so many lies about the victim and her family. It’s appalling how the ones who are in charge to protect tourists spent so much money and time trashing innocent victims while parading the creeps around like rock stars. I agree with Katablog on that.. The safety of tourists is not number one..It’s just about money.

      You will never get remorse from Joran. He is incapable of feeling it. It’s been a cover up all along.

      BTW to the Dutch posters, I am so glad to see you here to finally acknowledge what we have been seeing for almost 3 years about these people.

    147. EURobert on February 2nd, 2008 7:09 pm

      # 143 Arubaanse.

      No, I’m not a member of Hyves so I haven’t read the threats etc. Maybe you should show/post some of them here.

      I’m off to bed as well (as soon as I have finished my beer…).


    148. Helen Back on February 2nd, 2008 7:16 pm

      #111. Gabriel Leo,

      If you love Aruba,(and I believe that you do) why don’t you do something to help squash these bugs that are over-running your island, starting with Paulus van der Sloot? Get together with #118, Native_Islander and Toast em’. You know you can.

      Helen Back

    149. brie on February 2nd, 2008 7:18 pm

      The people of Aruba should protest Carlos & Charlie’s for their known ability to put drugs in your drink and then kill your tourists….it’s a known fact the locals won’t go there and the police are aware of what happens…payoffs. As the girls come out the back door the rapists are waiting…Carlos and Charlie’s are aware of the rape and do they ask for police control….no!!!

    150. brie on February 2nd, 2008 7:23 pm

      Hey “Dog” can you go to the Netherlands?????

    151. Richard on February 2nd, 2008 7:24 pm

      Just thought of something ….

      Let’s suppose that the Dutch legal wizards on Aruba (yes, I’m being sarcastic) decide that Joran’s taped comments do indeed constitute legitimate evidence. So they allow his arrest.

      Isn’t it the case that after eight days, STRONGER NEW evidence is then required to justify continued detention? Isn’t this what we saw earlier in the case?

      So after eight days … if there is nothing new to add to the “confession” … does that mean that Joran gets to walk yet again?

      Hard to imagine … but so has been the whole disgraceful saga since day one.

      It’s also interesting that for all of Joran’s “frankness,” apparently he never got around to identifying his “friend” who helped him dispose of Natalee’s body in the water.

      Methinks we’re not out of the woods yet on this.

    152. brie on February 2nd, 2008 7:43 pm

      Hey Arubaanese…I hope things work out for your country…along with Beth’s sentiments….what he did to your country…she by no means is at all hateful to the kind people, including Jossy of Aruba..

    153. brie on February 2nd, 2008 8:10 pm

      If nothing else…Joran is a hunted man….and he made it so….he lied and he lied and he lied…and Paulus ..he lied and he lied and he lied….and I hope we don’t see Rick Smid’s face..!!!

    154. brie on February 2nd, 2008 8:37 pm

      Me thinks Joran needs his head dissected….!!! What goes in that brain is disastrous!!!

      Hey Carpe…can we have a funny bone..just to lift our spirits…you are so renound for that..we love ya!!!!

    155. 10061906 on February 2nd, 2008 8:38 pm

      118 ntive_islander:
      I’m for the boycott yet I can feel your pain. However someone on your Island that is not Dutch; a real native must know something that could be brought to the table to end this travesty for everyone.

    156. weasel on February 2nd, 2008 8:53 pm

      #118 native islander:
      Arubans rise up and take your country back. Throw the Vandersloots and their slime friends out of their homes and off the island forever. You don’t need these outsiders making life miserable for you. Rise up and be seen and heard Take action !

    157. Sharon Chicago on February 2nd, 2008 9:04 pm

      Looking forward to tomorrow my fellow SM’s when the transcript is posted in English from Peter’s show.

      God bless you Beth and Dave and families.

    158. Carpe Noctem on February 2nd, 2008 9:32 pm

      O Man Homey, Your Mind Is Playin’ Tricks
      On You, sonnnnnn!

      Joran: Y-Y-Yes, n-n-no, it-it-it is indeed true… I have told someone something that I shouldn’t have told… in a story… Someone I knew some time…

      Witteman: How long did you know him?

      Joran: Some six months or so.

      Pauw: What did you say?

      Joran: Yes.., yes… Everybody will see it Sunday… (litlle laugh) But it is >REALLY NOT…

      >IT’S EASY PROVABLE* that what I told is not the truth. Actually.., actually there’s a lot of fuzz about nothing.

      — Joran appears to be diving back to Earth
      like the tragic Space Shuttle Challenger
      explosion of 1986. -j4n

    159. disgustedmom on February 2nd, 2008 11:13 pm


      On Geraldo tonight Mark Furhman said the following (paraphrased):

      When a person confesses, then says it was a lie, they are covering for someone else…someone either that they fear, or a very good friend, or a loved one (like his father?)

      I tend to agree.


      New language: Joraneeze

      The object of this language is to cover all bases with as many lies as possible as fast as you can.

      Example, when asked a yes/no question, say “Yes, No, I don’t know, ok” all in one string.

    160. Patti on February 3rd, 2008 12:01 am

      #21 – MARRIANNE CROES?!?!

      You mean the proprioter of the

      Ancient BONE Museum?

      That girl gets around,

      if you know what I mean…

    161. native_islander on February 3rd, 2008 8:53 am

      To: #133 Buckeye,

      Yes, at this right moment, believe me every native wants these Ministers banned to the Moon too! They’re complete idiots and incompetent.

      By the way folks… Carlos ‘n Charlie’s is here NO MORE. They’re closed, changing their name and moving out.

      The boycott MIGHT BE a good thing afterall. A lot of repeater-visitors are happy with the reduced capacity and more beach space… just like Aruba in the 70′s.

      This is also changing the opinions of immigrant workers from Colombia and Venezuela to change their course, and heading now to the neighboring island of Bonaire. Remember the Aruban Prison is filled with 80% Colombians/Venezuelans. That’s why every islander is blaming foreigners for our problems.

      We define “Arubans” as people born here. Indeed we have a dutch passport, but even the government in The Hague calls us: “Caribbean Dutch”, and those from Holland are called “Dutch European”.

      P.S.: Senor Frogs will now replace Carlos ‘n Charlie’s.

    162. 1006906 on February 3rd, 2008 11:35 am

      161: How friggen tacky can one chain be and still hope to draw customers.
      It will always be linked to C and C’s.
      The place that Natalee Holloway was last seen alive.
      Sorry native_islander; no vindication here.

    163. 1006906 on February 3rd, 2008 11:38 am

      159: disgustedmom:
      Think harder. Who was never mentioned in Joran’s book but was seen with him numerous times on flickr and other posts. Who was Joran’s girlfriend when Natalee disappeared?
      Who may be related to Rudy Croes?
      I’m putting the last of my state quarters on her.
      And I don’t mean Fabienne.

    164. Betsy on February 3rd, 2008 12:41 pm


      “Uuhhhh, yes, no, I mean ya, well no, I was bragging, yes, it’s easy to prove, no, I mean yes, I will easily prove it is not true, the lie I told when I said I did it really means I didn’t do anything. Got it?”

      “Oh, uuuhh and yes, daddy did not help me, no, yes, no, yes, I can’t keep up, (catching my breath now running up a hill of lies, very tired now); daddy didn’t help me when I didn’t do anything, ya got it? Yes, no, yes, no.”

    165. K.Jeanne on February 5th, 2008 10:34 am

      Greta said last night that somewhere in back of her mind when Jug Twitty first talked to Joran the first night in Aruba that Joran asked Jug if Natalee had seizures…If he did ask that question, then it will be more proof that he did indeed experience some sort of episode with Natalee. I also wish they would start searching all drain ditches and wells on a route to his house to find his sneakers. Somehow there have to be lucky breaks that will prove him guilty. “Liar, Liar, Pants on fire!!!!!!!”

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