Aruba Travel/Tourism & Legacy of Natalee Holloway: “I Would not step foot on the Dutch island” … The Voice of the People Boycotting Aruba

 

Below is a rather interesting editorial regarding Aruba and why one person Aruban Tourism Dummieschooses never to vacation there. This person states many reasons why they would not travel to Aruba. That is what Aruba has missed in this entire sorted event. No amount of marketing changes one’s opinion or perception. Few times does anyone get a second chance to make a first impression. Aruba has had many chances and failed miserably every time.

Being a victim of a crime or losing a loved one is bad enough. However, when the very island (Aruba) where one would spend their hard earned money on a vacation blame you for the disappearance of your loved one and treats a victim like a suspect , one should take pause to put that location at the top of the list of places never to travel to.

Aruba has been told over and over that the boycott on their island is like no other. It is not an official boycott declared by a country or a state. In many ways its worse. Its a grass roots movement done by John Q. Public, “We the People”. Aruba has become synonymous with missing persons stories, not because of the number of ones that occur but because of the manner in how they went about solving the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.  Hey Aruba, ever heard of Scotch Tape? Its not a product, it’s a brand … Aruba, you have been branded.

Editorial: Desire’e Larson, Fargo, Letter: Would not step foot on the Dutch island

In regards to The Forum’s travel section Jan. 20 on Aruba:

I am sorry to say that when I am looking for a place to vacation, it will not be Aruba/the Dutch island. Sure, it is warm and tropical but after the Natalee Holloway fiasco, I would not step foot in this country no matter how beautiful or warm it is.

Vanderbilt arubaNH

Aruba is one of the hot spots for human trafficking. Child prostitution in Aruba has increased in the past five years from 4,000 to 15,000 children. I would not feel safe taking my two teenage daughters to a country that does not care about children and does little to stop sex crimes involving children. (Legal Prostitution in Aruba and Escort Services advertised in  free Tourist news papers delivered to the hotels)

Aruba_Escort services

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This country wants to lower the age of youth/adult consent from 16 to 12 years old so pedophiles have even greater access to children. I realize that our own country as well as others exploit children; however, Aruba has chosen to look the other way. CNN reported that Aruba has a dark side,an island ruled by Colombian drugs  (And HERE) and Latin prostitutes.” (One might include mob ties as well)

“A magnificent washing-machine is sold here, its trademark is Aruba. The machine is an Aruban-Colombian product, its model called Cartel. The brand is well-known for its good performance in the United States and Europe. It is recommended by former ministers, members of Parliament, owners of casinos, supermarkets, cosmetics manufacturers and importers of cars and batteries. The washing-machine fits everybody who has become inexplicably rich from one day to another”.

Does this sound like a great place to vacation? Countless individuals such as the governor of Alabama and even Dr. Phil have chosen to boycott Aruba. Add my name to that list. Maybe if their tourism dollars suffer, they will look closer at their lack of human rights involving children. If you ever get a chance, watch the documentary, “Human Trafficking” on Lifetime.

I will be much more careful with my girls in foreign countries. Many girls in particular have been snatched while on vacation. I am not willing to take that chance by going to Aruba.



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    159 Responses to “Aruba Travel/Tourism & Legacy of Natalee Holloway: “I Would not step foot on the Dutch island” … The Voice of the People Boycotting Aruba”

    1. Betsy on January 27th, 2008 12:50 pm

      SM: Note typo first sentence second paragraph, change “bead” to “bad”

      Good article! Thanks!!

    2. Scared Monkeys on January 27th, 2008 1:01 pm

      Thanks Betsy

    3. Sasha on January 27th, 2008 1:06 pm

      The probelme is their laws are dutch laws and as you know EVERYTHING is legal in Holland. That just doesn’t work in Aruba and that’s why there is more and more crime there…Having sex with minors in Aruba is no big deal and I personally feel like it’s actually encouraged…Makes me sick.

    4. Betsy on January 27th, 2008 1:09 pm

      SM: Can you do an article about healthcare in Aruba? Are the doctors leaving? I was told by a medical sales rep that covers the islands that he no longer travels to Aruba because they never have money to buy new equipment.

      A new angle is that Americans are less likely to travel to a place if they know the medical care is substandard. If this is the case on Aruba and there is evidence that the physicians are leaving and they are not updating equipment, Americans should have this information.

      As an EMT, I can tell you that the ambulance coverage, training of ambulance staff (EMT or Paramedics), hospital, hospital staff all factor into whether or not I visit a place.

      In Canada, for example, the best medical care in the pre-hospital setting is Alberta and Ontario. Among the worst are British Columbia and Quebec. Alberta and Ontario have paramedics on every truck. British Columbia only has 12 paramedic trucks out of over 400 and they are in the city of Vancouver. If you are outside Vancouver, you are SOL if you have a life threatening event.

      It’s just a guess but I would bet that Aruba has very inferior pre-hospital care as in very few paramedics, their equipment is bad, and there hospital equipment is bad too!

    5. Scared Monkeys on January 27th, 2008 1:24 pm

      # 4,

      It is also pretty near impossible to sue for negligence in Aruba when doctors commit malpractice. That is what happens when one has a state sponsored health care system.

      Hint … Hint America … Universal Health care is a nightmare.

      Go to the hospital in Aruba??? No way Jose.

      Why do you think those with money in Aruba and who have real health issues fly to Miami?
      R

    6. Betsy on January 27th, 2008 1:36 pm

      If a tourist has a heart attack while on vacation in Aruba, flying to Miami is not an option. Patients must be initially treated and stabilized before transport. This is the reason it is critically important to know a bit of background on a place before traveling there.

      A friend of my dad’s was traveling in Greece and got hit by a motorbike while crossing the street. He nearly died there! His daughter came for him and there were pigeons in his hospital room! FLYING RATS!

      It’s just a guess but I would bet Aruba is no better and people should know what they are in for in the event of an emergency. A variety of accidents can happen and aside from putting on a bandaid, people should care about the level of treatment they will receive while visiting Aruba.

      Poor medical care and equipment is usually one of the first affects of an economic boycott.

      At this point I am finished feeling sorry for people who continue to visit Aruba after the Holloway cover up, blaming the victim, crucifying the parents.

      These people make me sick and they should make every American stand up and take a stand against Aruban tourism!

    7. Susan on January 27th, 2008 1:41 pm

      I will not ever step foot on that “hellhole” either! Why vacation on a poverty stricken, drug infested, third world, human trafficking, lawless Dutch protectorate like Aruba when there’s so many other beautiful, safe places to spend your hard earned American dollar? Makes no sense to me…

      BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE :-)

    8. Carpe Noctem on January 27th, 2008 2:06 pm

      I do not like Aruba on a trip…

      Not by plane, bus,

      …or even SHIP!

      I do not like ARUBA!!!

      They need to

      STOP THE HATIN’

      on our girls.

      http://tinyurl.com/2vyujw

      http://tinyurl.com/3e3mtc

      http://tinyurl.com/32j33l

      justice 4 natalee!

      > stop hurting her family. it makes no sense.

      http://tinyurl.com/3979vo

    9. FL on January 27th, 2008 2:51 pm

      “Child prostitution in Aruba has increased in the past five years from 4,000 to 15,000 children.”

      SM: WRONG. The article states the situation in The Netherlands, NOT Aruba.

      Perhaps the USVI is a place for your next vacation.

      #4 Betsy: The Horacio Oduber Hospital is by far the most modern hospital in the Caribbean.
      _______________
      SM: I did not write the editorial … as you can plainly see from the post. It was written by another person on another site. I added links where links were appropriate.

      Please read and have a comprehension of what you are reading before you post.

      As for saying the hospital is Aruba is the most modern in the Caribbean … LOL … Thats like saying their police force is among the best trained as well. Like I said, if ya get sick, you better hope you have money for a plane flight to Miami for health care.

      R

    10. Vicki on January 27th, 2008 4:10 pm

      Change the age of consent from 16 to 12…these poor children dont have a say so…Did the poor girl at school have a say so..no I dont think so…this place truely is SATANS ISLAND…in more ways than one. What must it feel like to be stuck there and you cant leave cause you have no money or passport…to have to be at the drug lords mercy. This place will be tourist free in a few years. It will take awhile cause you have some ppl that think nothing bad will happen to them, but it will and does.

    11. Carpe Noctem on January 27th, 2008 4:26 pm

      Sunday, January 27, 2008
      XV. Aruba

      http://nholloway.blogspot.com/

      Looks like somebody is havin’ some fun

      with a new video. :)

    12. Allan on January 27th, 2008 6:07 pm

      The only people who talk good about Aruba is its islanders and people with a vested interest (time-shares, mafia, drug cartel, prostitution business, porno movie makers.)

      I agree Aruba has lost any credibility if they ever had it. I hear on other post about time-share owners talk about how good Aruba is all the time thinking about their vested interest. They can take their money to hell with them.

    13. Gabriel Leo on January 27th, 2008 7:04 pm

      So 4,000 to 15,000 this wacko says, that makes 15 % of the aruban population who are in prostitution!
      You know that story from those two americans sounds with your bashing every time more and more interesting.
      Welcome to tabloid internet known as the scared monkeys family! KUDOS! :D
      ___________
      SK: GB, as the post states … it was an editorial … not hard news.

      Where fact based links could be provided they were.

      Not much different than the lies put out be the Aruban tourism who fails to warn people of potential issues in Aruba. I think the person who wrote the editorial confused some Dutch issues with some Aruban ones. However, the point is that people do not feel safe bringing their daughters there … nor should they.

      One night in Carlos N’ Charlie’s is proof positive.

      So sorry that you try and diss us as you may. Not going to work. We are hardly tabloid internet and every one knows it, including yourself who would try and lie to dismiss us much like Aruba has Natalee and her family. How sad.

    14. Gabriel Leo on January 27th, 2008 7:11 pm

      and about our health system, everyone is covered and they pay in full to send patient in need of special medical attention abroad with all expenses paid including a family member, whether it’s the USA, europe, south america etc. The movie Sicko has allot to teach you as yet, OH NO WAIT! You’re going say that guy is as wacky as those two americans who held a press conference couple of weeks ago here also rightttttt.
      Go Monkeys GO!
      Hey Vicki, polly want a cracker?
      ________
      SM: I have seen first hand the results the workings of the Aruban health care system. I saw a woman who broke her arm go to the Aruban hospital and have her arm set. They set ir wrong and put her in a cast. 6 weeks later they took the cast off and saw their mistake. The medical result … they had to re-break her arm and reset it. No law suit allowed for the negligence.

      Trust me, Michael Moore would never go to the hospital there. And if you actually believe MM and the movie SICKO has anything to teach us I really fear for whoever employees you. MM cares nothing about health care rather than exploiting stories for profit, you are are a naive fool. MM is a profiteer. Nothing “moore”, nothing less.

      GB … sad attempts to otherize … sad indeed. Now go get your stipend from the Aruban tourism authority.

      R

    15. NYC_lover on January 27th, 2008 7:39 pm

      Bon dai, con ta henter?

      Hi all,

      just a few question.

      When is Boston and NY show?
      I want go to here. When I can go and can stil fix a airplane ticket. No expensive with a low dollar. ;)

      Why is Peter r. de Vries at Aruba?
      Is Peter with cameras at Aruba?
      I just curious because it can be he makes a second part of the Holloway case, probably he does because the new programms are coming in March.

      The greetz Holland from NYC_lover and KLPD staff.

    16. LilPuma on January 27th, 2008 8:22 pm

      Betsy, as you may already know, health care is one of the topics Beth wants to include in her Safe Travels Foundation. Check out the website if you haven’t yet; they might be able to use your knowledge.

      Dear Aruba:

      Here’s an example. Today I went to Ace Hardware instead of a home center store. Why? BECAUSE I KNEW I’D GET HELP AT ACE IF I NEEDED IT. At the home center store, I haven’t always been able to. Now when you’re talking about lives, not screws and hammers, you don’t have to think long before making a decision.

    17. 10061906 on January 27th, 2008 8:33 pm

      Hey GB: I heard that there were insufficient funds for your medical assistance programs; with full scaled cutbacks and your hospital cannot afford even the basic essentials anymore.
      By the way when did you get off your job as a liquid transfer engineer and have time to post here?

    18. 10061906 on January 27th, 2008 8:38 pm

      I would like to pose the same question again.
      Can anyone come up with the one person that I did that would want to bring harm to Natalee. That person may be a relative of someone in office on Aruba?
      BTW the previous post was directed to Gabriel Leo…

    19. Helen Back on January 27th, 2008 8:40 pm

      #15 Hi NYC_Lover….good to see you. You have been missed.

      Boston is first (Link):
      http://www.bostonglobetravelshow.com/

      http://www.nyttravelshow.com/

      email: JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com

      I won’t be there, but many are planning to attend.
      Helen

    20. Auntiem on January 27th, 2008 10:51 pm

      NYC_Lover Hey, when you are in New York, please feel very welcome to stay with me. We can go to the show together…my daughter lives in Brooklyn Heights, just a walk over the Brooklyn Bridge to So. St. Seaport. I know that you are a young girl, not familiar with English, and I would not want anything to happen to you. BTW, never fear, the US will always come back up….the dollar will be fine. Just a few years ago I was in France and it was the opposite…..the franc was down……daughter and I spent like “drunken sailors”!!!

      It may take 4 to 8 years, as it looks like we may be doomed to have a Democratic President (God Save Us All) a Muslim toboot!!!!

    21. Auntiem on January 27th, 2008 10:52 pm

      Will Obama catch Osama????????

    22. brie on January 27th, 2008 10:55 pm

      Oh, this is something..clicked onto an Aruban site from #19 post….click on the ostrich farm and saw pictures of kids meeting, feeding and enjoying them….The Aruban Ostrich Farm is dedicated to providing a memorial and unique experience for all of our guests. (Nice so far) Allow us to share our farm with you! Afterwards, they say to relax and enjoy the Savannah Lounge Bar and Restaurant and sample a delicious ostrich meat dish…..!!!! Oh, how could you…your child just enjoyed meeting an animal and now you suggest he should eat it!!!! Something is haywire in the upper hemisphere!!!

    23. brie on January 27th, 2008 11:38 pm

      #20…WHY DOES ANYONE WANT TO BE A DEMOCRAT THESE DAYS!!!

    24. brie on January 27th, 2008 11:47 pm

      Can anyone catch Osama???? The brutal Bastard !!! Someday will come!!! You can hide for sometime for so long!

    25. Tushar on January 28th, 2008 12:02 am

      United Nations Global Initiative to Fight Human Trafficking website http://www.ungift.org aims to be an extension of UN GIFT activities worldwide. We would like it to evolve into a vibrant online community where people exchange views, showcase their work, talk about their experiences and strengthen the fight against human trafficking. With your help we can make it a valuable resource and a tool to take this fight forward. The organized crime of human trafficking needs a fitting organized response.

      United Nations Global Initiative to Fight Human Trafficking (UN.GIFT) was formally launched in London on 26 March 2007. It is designed to have a long-term impact to create a turning point in the worldwide fight against human trafficking. 27million people are trafficked each year. UN.GIFT intends to take action against human trafficking in all its manifestations – commercial sexual exploitation, bonded labour, organ trade, camel jockeying, forced marriages, domestic labour, illegal adoption, and other exploitative work – through creating partnerships at a global level with all sectors of society.

      The ultimate goal of the Global Initiative is to contribute to ending human trafficking– estimated to have a total market value of about $32 billion worldwide. UNODC has a two-pronged strategy for achieving this goal – increasing public awareness of the problem and coordinating existing but disparate efforts by international and national groups, governments and non-governmental organizations and by concerned individuals to end the practice.

      Numerous regional GIFT events will culminate in Vienna with a Global Forum against Human Trafficking from 13th to 15th Feb 2008.

      The objective of The Vienna Forum is to raise awareness, facilitate cooperation and partnerships among the various stakeholders. It will bring together representatives from Member States, UN system organizations, other regional and international organizations, the business community, academia, non-governmental organizations and other elements of civil society. The Forum will allow for an open environment to enable all parties involved to take concrete steps to fight human trafficking, within their spheres of action.

      The Forum will be a catalyst for solution-seeking ideas and address three overriding themes on human trafficking: 1.Vulnerability: why does human trafficking happen;
      2. Impact: human and social consequences of human trafficking;
      3. Action: innovative approaches to solving complex problems.
      · It is time to join forces to prevent human trafficking.
      · Give this global problem a global solution.
      · Rally under the banner of the Global Initiative to Fight Human Trafficking.
      · Get involved!
      · Together we can save people and put traffickers behind bars.

      Tushar

    26. kpg on January 28th, 2008 12:20 am

      A picture of de Vries giving the hairy eyeball to joran would be appropriate on the front page.

    27. brie on January 28th, 2008 12:23 am

      One thing is for sure Joran should not be walking around free…Straaten you were the problem…and you well know it..your going to haunted to your dying day….Prison Joran or a mental institution…and I can arrange it….so why didn’t you do it!!!!

    28. kpg on January 28th, 2008 12:25 am

      I am a member of scared monkeys. why does my comment need moderation?

    29. brie on January 28th, 2008 12:26 am

      Who would want Joran around anywhere!!!! Sociopath able to become violent at any time !!!!

    30. jack blair on January 28th, 2008 1:49 am

      As Aruba has said all along. It’s just dutchlaw as shameful as it is.We must boycott them to hell.But its dutch culture to be barbic raping women children doing drugs killing.all that

    31. Betsy on January 28th, 2008 4:41 am

      Anita’s is probably giving the little school boys a blow by blow instruction manual of how to drug and rape girls just like her son Joran for whom she is the proudest mom.

    32. Wang cares on January 28th, 2008 6:04 am

      What a load of bull!!!
      __________
      SM: This is the eqivalence to a letter to the editor.

      The purpose of this is to show the perception of what people think of Aruba. That is not bull, that is a reality. To think otherwise is bull. Putting your head in the sand will accomplish nothing.

    33. albert on January 28th, 2008 9:23 am

      @ Susan (7)

      Boycot the netherlands ? justice for Natalee ?
      Thank God in your great country these things never happen, seen a milk carton lately ?????

      Albert , the netherlands
      _________
      SM: Albert … I realize that you are late to the party. Its not about a missing person, that happens everywhere … its about the cover up of a crime on the island the size of a pea where everyone knows everyone and each others business.
      R

    34. chris on January 28th, 2008 9:30 am

      # 18
      Has there ever been a response from the people at Balder College in Hotlanta re their investigation into Natalee?

    35. Vicki on January 28th, 2008 9:59 am

      #14- whats wrong Gabe, the truth hurts…Your health care stinks, if you could call it that…If you dont have money you dont get nothing but a hallway bed or chair…please dont try to tell me anything, I know how to read….and by the way is that your only response???Polly want a cracker..what the heck does that mean???
      #34- we have had some feedback from the college….

    36. mommytraveler on January 28th, 2008 10:11 am

      I love the “Aruba for Dummies” book cover. I wonder if we could permission from that publisher to make school book covers like that? All the high school and college kids make or buy school book covers every year for their books. I am thinking we could get them copied somewhere pretty cheaply to distribute or sell for more publicity about Natalee.

    37. Dolf on January 28th, 2008 11:46 am

      #30 But its dutch culture to be barbic raping women children doing drugs killing.all that

      ?? Its our culture??

      Don’t know much about Aruban healthcare (prob. is on par with the other caribian countries), but the US healthcare system is also not 1 I really want to depend on.

      also saw Sicko…but you have to read between the lines.MiMo is not above twisting facts to suit his purpose…you yanks should also see it..very insightfull (except the Cuba part)

    38. disgustedmom on January 28th, 2008 11:54 am

      So…the health care issue seems to have hit a nerve with some trolls….maybe a sensitive issue? Like maybe someone made a bad decision to not get Natalee medical attention? Took a chance she might be OK without it? Lost the gamble….?

    39. disgustedmom on January 28th, 2008 11:57 am

      Brie…how SICK about petting the ostriches and then serving them up for dinner! Just goes to show…in a word….HEARTLESS!

    40. 10061906 on January 28th, 2008 12:07 pm

      This not the place but since Obama’s name has been mentioned:
      Has anyone questioned his Muslim beliefs and his association with Rev. Wright as they have questioned Mitt Rommney and the COTLDS?
      I am a registered Republication that votes Democratic.
      34 Chris; Yes Got a telephone call from Bauder College in Atlanta acknowledging our interests in their investigation. Will probably not be finalized until the end of the semester.
      If we get any updates and permitted to then we will post preliminary findings.

    41. minnesota dad on January 28th, 2008 12:15 pm

      It really must be getting to a point of desperation in Aruba regarding tourism and the economy.

      They are beginning to parade out a bunch of “alternative” theories that slander the victim and the family.

      They are attempting to take a page out of the books some of our politicians use….when in a crisis, come out swinging, tell lies and tell them enough that hopefully some of them stick.

      ARREST PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT Aruba! Your tourism will never come back until you take action against this man’s crimes.

      MD

    42. NYC_lover on January 28th, 2008 12:54 pm

      #15 Hi Helen,
      Thanks for posting.

    43. brie on January 28th, 2008 1:30 pm

      Disgustedmom….yes, that is SICK about the ostrichs…I could see a lot of children crying over that….but Aruba doesn’t care they just want your tourism dollars…..$35.00 for an adult and $28.00 for children 3-12….and all the nightmares they can have after that….!!!!! The place is pathetic!!!!

    44. FL on January 28th, 2008 1:41 pm

      #43 Brie: … and these children probably also cry when you’re eating your turkey at Thanksgiving … Heartless!

    45. FL on January 28th, 2008 1:52 pm

      #9 (SM): Is it your intention to write about the truth by spending only one minute of your time by checking your own links or just post an article no matter if it is completely untrue but will create many more negative reaction about Aruba?

      It took me less than 1 minute to read about child prostitution on a link from this article to check that this article from Radio Netherland Worldwide (http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/region/netherlands/netherlands011218.html) concerns The Netherlands and not Aruba.

    46. kayjay on January 28th, 2008 2:12 pm

      #41 MD I couldn’t agree more. That man is the key to this whole case and imo the Aruban authorities are well aware of it. PVDS looks/sounds acts like the nasty slimy little creep in detective novels/movies that finds out all kinds of incriminating/embarrassing stuff about people and isn’t above blackmailing them. The man needs to be thoroughly investigated. Anyone care to chip in to hire a PI to go over to Aruba and dig up his past from cradle to grave!! If I win the lottery I’ll be first in line.
      I also think his adoring freak of a son knows what his father is capable of and this influences his behavior..in fact father and son have an awful lot on each other..probably toss wine in each others faces at dinner every night!

    47. mommytraveler on January 28th, 2008 2:19 pm

      FL: Turkeys are not considered pets or used to attract people to animal petting farms where a fee is required to see them. Not a valid comparison. If the ostrich were not on display for the children to see and pet, then there would be no problem in having them on the menu.

    48. kayjay on January 28th, 2008 2:20 pm

      #1906. I am NOT an Obama fan, but wanted to say I heard a speaker on CSPAN about a week ago stating that Obama, although he has Muslim relatives, is actually a Presbyterian!!
      I have not personally checked this out. I tune out when he is on the TV spouting hot air about
      “change”, which in my opinion means bring on Robin Hood and His Merry Men..if you get my drift!!

    49. brie on January 28th, 2008 3:22 pm

      I guess FL doesn’t see anything wrong with 12 old children put into prostitution either…!!!!

    50. Carpe Noctem on January 28th, 2008 3:32 pm

      Joran Vandersloot goes all Mistadobalina!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2jB8TMArMc

      Justice 4 Natalee!

      http://tinyurl.com/yr2776

    51. 10061906 on January 28th, 2008 3:41 pm

      48 Actually if he hangs out with Rev Wright he would be an Episcopal.

    52. FL on January 28th, 2008 4:06 pm

      #49 Brie: get a frigging hike. You are disgusting!

    53. Mary on January 28th, 2008 4:16 pm

      Just got back from Aruba and had a WONDERFUL time. I must say if anyone is boycotting the island I did not noticed. Our planes going and coming back were booked. The airport and all the hotels were crowded.

      One thing I noticed here is that people keep aying they will boycott the island and not spend any American money there etc. The island gets quite a few European an South American visitors, so I don’t think a few americans boycotting the place is going to make much of a difference. Stay home and boycott more room for me to go back and visit.

    54. Carpe Noctem on January 28th, 2008 4:31 pm

      #41 Md-

      They are attempting to take a page out of the books some of our politicians use….when in a crisis, come out swinging, tell lies and tell them enough that hopefully some of them stick.

      Yes, attacking Nat & her family… & it’s really
      chapping my sitting unit. Nat can’t defend herself
      anymore, THE 3 AMIGO T-BALLS took that from her
      FOREVER.

      The Aruban people (I call them Aruban & leave
      the ‘I’ out on purpose just to piss ‘em the heck off – I’m little like that sometimes.)
      For some reason feel the need to hurt her family over & over again. I’ve got a big problem with that! They can go take a running jump in a lake
      treating people in such a horrible way. Who wants to visit a place LIKE THAT??? Well NEWSFLASH, this just in…

      Not me.

      http://tinyurl.com/yoa8qe

      http://tinyurl.com/2fvk2d

    55. Richard on January 28th, 2008 4:35 pm

      What’s all this? Human trafficking?

      “Many girls have been snatched while on vacation”?

      Gee whiz … this guy must have been reading about the Amy Bradley case. And so many others.

      But then, aren’t we told that human trafficking is a myth?

    56. Richard on January 28th, 2008 5:01 pm

      Meanwhile, Valero’s Aruba refinery is still down; no word on when production will resume….

      http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080128/aruba_refinery_fire.html?.v=1

      AP
      Aruba Refinery Out of Service After Fire
      Monday January 28, 2:02 pm ET

      Valero’s Oil Refinery in Aruba Out of Service After Fire in Vacuum Unit

      ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Workers returned on Monday to an oil refinery where a key unit caught fire last week, but there was no word on when operations would resume at the 275,000-barrels-a-day plant on the southern tip of Aruba.

      Valero Energy Corp.’s refinery on the southern Caribbean island was temporarily out of service following a blaze Friday that started in a vacuum unit, according to a spokesman for the San Antonio-based refiner.

      “We do have some units running, but there is no production,” spokesman Bill Day said by telephone, adding the U.S. company does not know when full operations will resume.

      Day said the area where the blaze sparked was not yet accessible to fire investigators. There were no injuries reported.

      The Aruba plant processes heavy, sour crude which is cheaper than the light, sweet variety to produce a high yield of finished distillate products and feedstock marketed in the U.S. Gulf Coast, Florida, the New York Harbor and the Caribbean.

      Valero, the largest independent oil refiner in the United States, bought the Aruba plant in 2004.

    57. 10061906 on January 28th, 2008 5:41 pm

      53:
      I guess I’m happy for you that you made it home.
      No lingering or gnawing anxiety about; well you know what I mean…Can’t remember where you’ve been. Still have your debit card? You know things like that lingering sore that will not go away. Just little things.

    58. katablog on January 28th, 2008 5:45 pm

      #55 Mary: Yeah, sure we believe you! If you are going to post lies, at least change the wording from time to time. We see that exact same post every time things heat up in Aruba.

      We know the hotels are running about 70% full; we know the flights have been decreased and we know Americans are boycotting Aruba like the plague. We also know Europeans have little or no interest in Aruba.

    59. brie on January 28th, 2008 5:48 pm

      mary…American’s supplied 80% of Aruba’s income but not anymore, the South American’s can have Aruba. And if missing a few American’s isn’t going to make a difference than stay out of our travel shows!! We don’t want you there anyway! And I also doubt if you were a visitor….just another stupid troll!

    60. Richard on January 28th, 2008 5:54 pm

      Mary (#53) … By all means. I’ll leave the island to you … I wouldn’t touch it with the proverbial ten-foot pole. If you do go, I hope you survive your trip.

    61. JusticeforNatalee on January 28th, 2008 5:59 pm

      “Go Monkeys GO!”

      Thanks, Gabe.
      We will be going strong in Boston and NY.

    62. JusticeforNatalee on January 28th, 2008 6:06 pm

      Hahaha #53 Mary.

      Some people will go anywhere if the prices are slashed enough.
      ——
      A FEW American tourists boycotting? Guess again.

      Word has just started to get out in the Northeast.
      Last year was just a warm-up.

    63. Richard on January 28th, 2008 6:07 pm

      Meanwhile, check the latest entry in today’s blog from the Persistence. The Aruba Coast Guard boarded them for a “friendly visit” … but the guy writing has nothing but good words for them.

      He says that they are working together, “shoulder to shoulder,” for a common goal. Let’s hope so.

    64. Dolf on January 28th, 2008 6:17 pm

      as long as there are sick induvidial and unequality there will be human trafficing

    65. Dolf on January 28th, 2008 6:18 pm

      sorry for the spelling….shouldn’t had that last couple of glasses South African wine

    66. Dolf on January 28th, 2008 6:20 pm

      ofcourse they are.

      sailors around the world usualy can get along.

      the ocean/ sea is a bigger advisary then humans

    67. Dolf on January 28th, 2008 6:20 pm

      and Aruba is not a Dutch island.

      check out:

      Texel, Terschelling, Vlieland, Ameland.]

      Those are Dutch islands

    68. brie on January 28th, 2008 6:39 pm

      Well, we all know why we are here but obviously for some people they like to come on and just stir up the pot….I don’t believe she was a visitor…if your an American and you know about this site and you went to Aruba…I certainly wouldn’t brag about it….nor come on here and tell us how wonderful it was, when you know Natalee is missing..no credibility there….!!!!!!!!!!

      No repeat visits necessary……….troll!!!

    69. brie on January 28th, 2008 6:52 pm

      Freddy, best friend and neighbor of the Sloot’s. A guest at their house the night of Natalee’s disappearance…arrested 8-26-06 under suspicion of intentionally distributing and showing sexual images of a minor, intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16…

      Was that unconscious person..Natalee????

    70. chris on January 28th, 2008 7:10 pm

      #40, thanks for the comeback. Keep us/me posted.

    71. brie on January 28th, 2008 7:40 pm

      I think we all know there are decent folks in Aruba…the coast guard is not part of the Aruban corrupt officials..they don’t like it either….so hopefully that part of it will work out…seems so!!! Good Luck to the Persistence…I think they know how to make sound decisions..

    72. mommytraveler on January 28th, 2008 7:40 pm

      Mary –

      ALL THE HOTELS ARE NOT BOOKED. Just tried to make reservations at 5 places – all had vacancies. All were willing to make “deals” – discounts, etc.

    73. brie on January 28th, 2008 7:56 pm

      Tim Miller is the experience of finding missing persons…he is not going to let anything interfere with that…you can count on it!!!

    74. yoyo muffintop on January 28th, 2008 8:15 pm

      The very prestigious Adrian Awards are tonight. Quinn & Co won a silver medal last year for the work they did for ATA in 2006. Wonder if they’ll win again?
      “The Adrian Awards are presented by the Hospitality Sales & Marketing Association International (HSMAI), an international organization of sales and marketing professionals representing all segments of hospitality, travel, and tourism.”

      I would assume there is a boycott or some sort of rally in front of the Marriott Marquis in NY tonight. This would be the ultimate opportunity to “educate” the trade, no?
      This is the “Oscars” for the travel industry.

    75. brie on January 28th, 2008 8:21 pm

      Forget Mary…Probably a travel agent!!!! Who need’s to redirect the people looking for a place to go on vacation!!!! Joke…no safety there!!!Better get wise people…spend your dollars in the US and obtain the protection….stay off the damn island of ARUBA…

    76. katablog on January 28th, 2008 9:10 pm

      LOL, type “aruba vacations” in Google – all the first page links promise huge deals including 70% off! I bet Aruba hotels are full! NOT.

    77. brie on January 28th, 2008 9:34 pm

      fl….f..off !!!

    78. Arubaboy on January 28th, 2008 10:03 pm

      Mommytravel, mention the names of the places in Aruba with deals, discounts etc.
      You got to be kidding! The hotels are not giving deals in this period or you must have a big group planning to come.
      Right now Aruba has plenty tourists vacationing believe it or not!

    79. dennisintn on January 28th, 2008 10:42 pm

      #69, brie, where did you find that information? has there been a trial yet?
      dennisintn

    80. yoyo muffintop on January 28th, 2008 10:54 pm

      #75: “spend your dollars in the US and obtain the protection”

      What protection? What protection can you obtain from staying in the US?

    81. Carpe Noctem on January 28th, 2008 10:58 pm

      #74

      Quinn & Co won a silver medal last year for the work they did for ATA in 2006. Wonder if they’ll win again?
      “The Adrian Awards are presented by the Hospitality Sales & Marketing Association International (HSMAI), an international organization of sales and marketing professionals representing all segments of hospitality, travel, and tourism.”

      ….

      I wonder why they’d win, when truthfully

      the island looks like it has been leveled

      by a nuclear bomb, since 2005.

      I saw more activity eyeballin’

      that humanoid action on Mars, the other day!

      AGAIN, I REMIND MYSELF… it is Aruba. As we

      have seen over the past three years since they

      covered over the Natalee Holloway Rape & Murder…

      Aruba & company embrace and love $h1t!

      They eat it, breathe it, and seem to enjoy it.

      So it is to YOU, I say, keep

      feeding to those f’n skank roaches!

      —-

      “They deserve it, it just

      makes ‘em feel all warm and

      fuzzy inside… or something.”

      -Wally Cleaver

    82. Carpe Noctem on January 28th, 2008 11:01 pm
    83. JusticeforNatalee on January 28th, 2008 11:05 pm

      No, YoYo,

      Our ultimate opportunity will come at the travel shows in NY and Boston, (prime markets for Aruba Tourism), where we can educate travel agents and tourists alike.

    84. disgustedmom on January 28th, 2008 11:16 pm

      I don’t get these people who come on here to talk about how awesome their alleged trip to Aruba was and how they’re going back and blah blah blah….as if Aruba were like the only Caribbean vacation island on the planet. What’s so great about Aruba?

      I mean, come on…sure, if you’re interested in vacationing on some Caribbean island then sure…Aruba is one of such islands…but there are so many more that offer the exact same stuff Aruba does….so what’s all this repeat visits to Aruba as opposed to trying out some of the other islands?

      OK, I know MB grads made it a thing to go to Aruba. That I can understand. It was like a tradition. But just plain individuals being obscessed with Aruba doesn’t make sense to me. Even the cruises toodle around to several islands. What’s up with this OMG Aruba is the greatest place EVER! Don’t bother with any other island. ???

      You folks really need to get out more. Broaden your horizons! You can be conned, drugged, raped and have your stuff stolen on just about any island. Shop around!

    85. Helen Back on January 29th, 2008 12:15 am

      OH OH YO YO! How would a person even know that?

      Prestigious, is it?

      You getting all dressed up tonight?

    86. yoyo muffintop on January 29th, 2008 12:24 am

      #83 – so ya missed it is what’s you’re saying.

    87. brie on January 29th, 2008 3:01 am

      #79…found it on Aruban Who’s Who….

    88. JusticeforNatalee on January 29th, 2008 3:15 am

      No, YoYo Joranhead,

      What I am saying is: I am not interested.

      However, the travel shows are coming up.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA!

    89. brie on January 29th, 2008 3:16 am

      YoYo…just park it…OK!!!

    90. JusticeforNatalee on January 29th, 2008 3:23 am

      P.S. Aruba’s latest catch and release will make our job
      that much easier.

    91. JusticeforNatalee on January 29th, 2008 3:25 am

      And by “job,” I mean our efforts.

      Needed to clarify that in case some moron comes on
      and accuses us of being paid.

    92. katablog.com on January 29th, 2008 11:09 am
    93. Betsy on January 29th, 2008 11:21 am

      Does anyone know whether or not US schools are still taking graduation trips to Aruba? I wouldn’t think any parents would allow their kids to go to Aruba after the way they have handled the Holloway case.

    94. disgustedmom on January 29th, 2008 11:27 am

      Obama?

      I took this off the websleuth’s site…

      http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59887

      Obama’s pastor disses Natalee Holloway
      ‘White girl goes off and gives it up’ in Aruba, preacher pal says

      Jan. 27, 2008

      Sen Barack Obama’s longtime friend and spiritual advisor trashed the memory of a missing and presumed dead American girl, according to church publications viewed by WND.

      Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the controversial minister of Obama’s church in Chicago, cited the case of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance in Aruba in complaining about what he sees as the media’s bias in covering white victims of crime over black victims.

      “Black women are being raped daily in Darfur, Sudan, in the Congo and in Sub-Saharan Africa. That doesn’t make news,” Wright said in the 2005 edition of Trumpet Magazine, a publication of his Trinity United Church of Christ.

      But, “One 18-year-old white girl from Alabama gets drunk on a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and ‘gives it up’ while in a foreign country, and that stays in the news for months! he added, Maybe I am missing something!”

      ****

      I know it’s old news and Obama didn’t say this crap but still….you are judged by the company you keep!

      How dare that minister say his African relatives were raped, but the white girl ‘gave it up’!

      Obama goes to this man’s church to hear this man preach his racist feelings that are, based on his remarks about Natalee, probably riddled throughout his sermons. If Obama is not influenced by this man’s words then why is Obama going to church where he preaches?

      No matter that people might deny it, this presidential race is full of the race card! It seems you just can’t run a black skinned person without blacks making it a race issue. So many have said they will vote for Obama simply because he is black. That’s as racist as whites refusing to vote for a black because he is black.

      Although I won’t be voting for a Democrat, I hope Obama gets to be the next president. The radical blacks will end up showing just how racist they are when every time The Black President gets dissed by the media they start with the ‘it’s because he’s black’ BS…and maybe the whites will finally get to ‘call the kettle black’.

      My point…there are racists everywhere of every skin color. People scapegoat each other all the time. And this entire case of Natalee being still missing is based on Aruba’s prejudicial bias and scapegoating Natalee because she was a white American. Stop it!

    95. Carpe Noctem on January 29th, 2008 11:37 am

      Anita Vandersloot…

      A mind is a terrible thing to waste…

      You can make that change today…

      STOP THE MADNESS, PLEASE & Turn your son in.

      -Justice for Natalee!

      BOYCOTT ARUBA

      — cuz yer GOOD ENUFF, and smart enuff…
      and dog-gone it, people LIKE YOU.

      -Stuart
      Smalley

      http://tinyurl.com/32jcmh

    96. Rocky on January 29th, 2008 12:35 pm

      You forgot to tell Anita to first, take the food bag off. Next, turn your evil son into the police for his crimes of rape and murder

    97. Rocky on January 29th, 2008 12:43 pm

      There are white women that go missing every day all over the world, balck ones, asian ones, you name. Violence against women, regardless of race, is a reality.

      There is one single reason the Holloway case has remained in the news. It’s because Natalee’s parents, and step parents, worked like dogs to find her, keep it in the news, raise awareness, raise money….. you name it.

      Actually, there are secondary reasons why Natalee has captured the attention of the media like no other.

      1) She was a straight A student on her way to college on full academic scholarship.

      2) She was beautiful and innocent

      3) The primary accused is the son of a “Judge in training”

      4) The obvious cover ups in this case scream of injustice and Americans respond when one of their own suffers this type of injustice.

      Natalee Holloway, if she is not found, will continue to grow in importance in death. This case will not abate by any means. If she is found, she will receive a proper burial but those who follow this case will never let up on the boycott of that skanky little island the size of a pea until justice is served, one way or the other.

    98. Libby on January 29th, 2008 1:22 pm

      Not to change the subject but is anyone still concerned about “Aruban” divers? I just don’t trust them. I’m sure they appear to be nice and concerned but so were some of the so called officials in the beginning who ended up being part of the cover up and blaming the family. It just doesn’t make sense to allow anyone from Aruba to be part of the search given their history over the past 2 1/2 years.

    99. Vicki on January 29th, 2008 1:24 pm

      LIERUBA IS FOR DUMMIES…what an awful, godforsaken place….EVIL ABOUNDS..BOYCOTT LIERUBA CAUSE YOUR LIFE DOES DEPEND ON IT…

    100. yoyo muffintop on January 29th, 2008 1:30 pm

      2) She was beautiful and innocent

      sooooo…if she was ugly and broke the law while in the US the American public would be less interested? BS.
      You must not be from the USA – nice slam on the American public.
      Define “innocent” please. Define “beautiful” please.

      And if #4 was actually correct, this would be solved by now, correct? This didn’t happen 1 month ago – it’s coming up on 3 years. I don’t see the outrage sans a few websites.

    101. katablog.com on January 29th, 2008 1:50 pm

      #97 and YoYo: I say the reason why this case gets so much news is not because it was a young, beautiful white girl but rather because it’s obvious what happened to Natalee and by whom and yet the perps walk around free while Aruba makes up story after to story.

    102. Susan on January 29th, 2008 2:02 pm

      Albert – “Kiss my grits”!

      Red – Thanks for defending me…LOL :-)

      Dolf – Lay off the freaking South African wine!

      MARY – Permanent relocate to Aruba, we don’t need or want you here…

      BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE :-)

    103. JusticeforNatalee on January 29th, 2008 2:06 pm

      “I don’t see the outrage sans a few websites” Posted by the yoyo

      That’s because you haven’t been to the travel shows and haven’t talked to tourists boycotting Aruba.

    104. brie on January 29th, 2008 3:04 pm

      Yo Yo…..you have got to be a druggie to come on here and post the things you do…!!!!

    105. disgustedmom on January 29th, 2008 3:08 pm

      yoyo….innocent does not mean innocent of committing a crime! Why did you jump to such a conclusion?

      Innocent meant Natalee was untested in the hard cruel ways of the world. She hadn’t seen the likes of the characters of Aruba before so she was able to be caught off guard and tricked.

      by beautiful….Natalee is beautiful. but I don’t think that has anything to do with people’s interest in her being missing. I do, however, think it would play into the possibility she were kidnapped for sex trade because THEY are not interested in ugly girls. THEY also would be interested in innocent as I related above.

      So, in the end, the fact that Natalee was both innocent and beautiful made her a target for some looser to take advantage of, and that interests people because people tend to despise jerks who take advantage of good, unsuspecting people who have done nothing to harm anyone. I also think it is a reason some people want to be so hateful toward her. Some people do not like to see pretty, nice girls taken up for. Some people like to take the pretty, popular girls DOWN!

    106. Betsy on January 29th, 2008 3:29 pm

      Yoyo, you are a YOYO!

      It is as easy to see that Natalee was a beautiful young woman as it is to see that Anita is a low life fat POS who raised a monster with two more children she is about to sacrifice for Joran. Instead of allowing him to be punished for his crimes, she covered this crime and in doing so, set the worst possible example for her younger boys.

    107. Carpe Noctem on January 29th, 2008 3:52 pm

      #104

      >
      …or a defense lawyer. LOL

    108. Carpe Noctem on January 29th, 2008 3:55 pm

      # 101

      …”not because it was a young, beautiful white girl but rather because it’s obvious what happened to Natalee and by whom and yet the perps walk around free while Aruba makes up story after to story.”

      KABLAM-O! Post of the week, you are CORRECT, sir.

      -j4n

    109. Carpe Noctem on January 29th, 2008 3:57 pm

      …said Ed McMahon.

    110. Mike on January 29th, 2008 4:47 pm

      by beautiful….Natalee is beautiful. but I don’t think that has anything to do with people’s interest in her being missing. I do, however, think it would play into the possibility she were kidnapped for sex trade because THEY are not interested in ugly girls.

      YoYO,

      This is why you would be safe to go to Aruba!!

    111. 10061906 on January 29th, 2008 4:50 pm

      94: Last year before it was just a twinkle in his eye; I said I was impressed and he could be our first black president; However after reading that article when it first came out he definitely changed my opinion. I think Obama is still impressive; however as you say you are by the company you keep. Well there is always
      Mr. Breck Shampoo.

    112. peter on January 29th, 2008 4:52 pm

      Joran…why’d you really throw the wine in Peter’s face?

      Was it because you’ve been angry with him ever since he caught you and got you to do that impromptu interview that made you sound like a caring good boy when you really hate that wimpy persona?

      How long are you going to let that wimpy…oh I should have not left a girl on the beach…persona go on? You know it’s killing you! How can you attract the sort of friends you really want with that ‘good boy’ image all around you?

      Yeah, so you used to think it was coy and smart to act like you were a good boy who would never have harmed Natalee, but you didn’t know it was going to go on for so long. You didn’t know you’d still have to be keeping up this charade? You thought by now you’d be able to be your real self and hang with the tough crowd without taking up the xxxx.

      When will you ever be free, Joran?

      Well, the ole wine throwing will hold you for a bit.

      Funny that you got Natalee by being something you’re not. Now you are stuck with being that.

      Joran, the momma’s boy, goody two shoes….what a guy.

    113. Richard on January 29th, 2008 5:05 pm

      And in line with J4N’s (#103) comment …

      Both J4N and I attended and took part in the King of Prussia, Penn., demonstration/protest against the Aruba Tourism Authority’s participation in a travel show there.

      Sentiment against Aruba, insofar as we were able to judge, was STRONGER than it was in Boston. Even security staff said they thought our cause was worthwhile.

      And the black passers-by with whom we talked were as irate, and concerned, as the whites. So stuff that in your hat, anyone who says that Natalee’s case is only a “rich white girl case.”

      Don’t argue with me about that … I was there. So was J4N. We heard what people said.

    114. Richard on January 29th, 2008 5:06 pm

      I well remember, at King of Prussia, how people drove by our “boycott Aruba” signs and were cheering us on. We had people come by who said that Aruba was the absolute pits, much different than it was in years past (in their eyes, anyway), and that they would never go back.

    115. deepak on January 29th, 2008 5:54 pm

      joran is a killer

      deepak

    116. deepak on January 29th, 2008 5:54 pm

      joran is a killer and his father is a pig

      satish

    117. 10061906 on January 29th, 2008 6:19 pm

      113 114:
      Dido I was there too. I well remember this elderly black man that went out of his way to come over and talk to us. He was definitely sympathetic to our cause and commented that the three did her in and and got rid of the body.
      There was no race barrier that I saw when it came down to a missing “AMERICAN CITIZEN” on foreign soil and the ensueing cover up.

    118. Miss-Underestimated on January 29th, 2008 7:54 pm

      95.

      You said the key word. SMART.

      Anita can’t remember where her friggin camera was.

      And Paulus couldn’t remember where his sons were the night Natalee went missing.

    119. peter on January 29th, 2008 10:29 pm

      #111 NOOOOOO! NOt Mr Breck Shampoo!

      When a guy uses more hair gel than his wife does, he doesn’t have time to be president! :)

    120. disgustedmom on January 29th, 2008 10:31 pm

      You took the words right outa my mouth, Peter!

    121. waterboy (Jerry) on January 29th, 2008 11:34 pm

      Heres to the decisive ones, the jokers, the keepsakes, the pimps. Or at least that is how they view themselves.

      They are the loving pegs in the fat holes.

      They are the ones who evacuate things differently, the judges, the prosecutors, the investigators the inhabitants of Aruba who have hidden the simple truth, and destroyed the life of innocence.

      They’re not fond of bevy, and they have no plaster for the status quo. That is to say, they have no honor or reverence for the law.

      You can fend them, calm them, insist otherwise, insult or hypnotize them. About the only thing you can’t do is glean them of any measure of truth. Because they disclose disasters, yet hide the oblivious.

      They bash. They evacuate. They crouch. They muffle.
      They terminate the allure forward to a time that never takes place.

      Maybe they have to be crazy.
      How else can you lug at an empty hobo and see a work of art?
      Or sit with a colleague and nab a glossary that has never been stank? Or blight at a red airport and see a qualm on wheels? Times conjured in their minds.

      We make accordions for these kinds of people.
      While some may see them as the owners, we see otherwise.
      Because the ones who are makeshift enough to never influence deity, are the ones who attempt to do so.

      Jerry

    122. waterboy (Jerry) on January 29th, 2008 11:38 pm

      Monkeys,

      I know it makes no sense. Just read it, and let the sound of the words place images in your mind. Just try it. It won’t mean the same thing to any two of us.

      Jerry

    123. Carpe Noctem on January 30th, 2008 1:26 am

      Two of the winning 2006 AHATA EXEC “AWARDS SHOW”

      recipients at the Marriott last night.

      http://tinyurl.com/26gsrs

      Go team, wooohooooo! :)

      Ya’ll put the ‘Q’ in Caribbean.

      -j4n

    124. yoyo muffintop on January 30th, 2008 3:47 am

      Capt – love the banana hammocks. lol.
      Good stuff

    125. Dolf on January 30th, 2008 9:21 am

      think naive would be better used than innocent.

    126. Dolf on January 30th, 2008 9:36 am

      you should check out this:

      http://joran-sloot.hyves.nl/

      http://www.hyves.nl is like facebook/ friendfinder

      when you have to search on member name: joran van der sloot

    127. margaret wever on January 30th, 2008 10:00 am

      My newspaper THE NEWS HAS NEVER KNOWINGLY PLACED AND WILL NEVER KNOWINGLY PLACE escort and prostitution ads!!! It has been our policy since the paper was established in 1951. We have occasionally even checked up ourselves on “suspicious ads.”
      Plus, I know for a fact that also Mr. Jossy Mansur will not place these ads in his Aruba Daily, although they did let one slip in a few years ago, but soon discontinued it.
      Since there are three free English newspapers on Aruba, and two do not place escort and prostitution ads, this article should have stated that one newspaper is the one doing this (Aruba Today)!!!
      Thank you.
      Prayers for Natalee, Beth and Matt!

    128. Richard on January 30th, 2008 1:57 pm

      Good for you, Margaret … but take a look at the Aruban phone book. 10061096 has found postings.

      And my guess is, the “loverboy” pimps on the street and the sleazy bars are quite adept at steering tourists to these places … and let’s face it, SOME tourists are all too eager to hand over dollars (or other currencies) to the sleazy types.

      Question, Margaret: will your paper take ads for Carlos ‘n’ Charlies? You know, the place where, according to your own police, date-rape drugs were put in drinks?

      Ah, well, that’s another story, isn’t it?

      BTW … this just came out … John Edwards is quitting the presidential race.

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/ap_on_el_pr/edwards

    129. Richard on January 30th, 2008 2:46 pm

      Giuliani has also given up, I understand.

    130. brie on January 30th, 2008 3:38 pm

      This should be an interesting showdown…never before in history a black man and a white woman wanting the presidency….

    131. brie on January 30th, 2008 4:04 pm

      All the campaigning to win delegates and then all the campaigning after that if your nominated …what is left of them for the Whitehouse???? Whew!!!!

    132. cadcamr on January 30th, 2008 4:22 pm

      #126 i believe the back drop jvds is using( the sun setting in the west / general search area ) is not a coincidence and is possibly a clue, there is land on the left side.
      I have never posted before, but I have been following the case since the begining.

    133. Maggie on January 30th, 2008 5:03 pm

      How can people here say Natalee was not innocent? based on what? Only one who has told these stupid, wild stories about Natalee was 3 self confessed liars. You don’t know why Natalee got in that car. You don’t know that Natalee wanted to engage in any kind of sexual conduct with Joran(and I truly hate using his name anymore, because he loves it when people talk about him or give him media attention) and there’s no proof she ever went to the beach that night, let alone the big lie she wanted to sit on the beach at 3 am alone and look at stars. There is nothing to suggest Natalee wasn’t innocent and simply trusted people to be who they said and do what they say. It was reported she said she was going back to her hotel with the other MB group and pointed ahead. Once Natalee was in the car, who knows what was going on inside that car. Plus, all 3 spoke foreign languages. I couldn’t imagine the terror one would feel when realizing what was going on. He lied about his age, he has to admit that, because many heard it. Look at the lies he has told since, anyone believe he told her the truth? Who knows if she was drugged? Taking her to a side bar on the way out, is very suspicious, especially giving her a rum151 shot, because that’s what he drinks. Dave said the cops told him to watch his drink at C&C because they drug drinks there.. If they would drug a grown adult male in his 40s, imagine what they do to young 18 year old female tourists. This reminds me of Angela Muzzlehead..in Vanity Fair when she said Natalee was an alcoholic and she wasn’t a virgin. Drinking legally on vacation does not make one an alcoholic and how in the world does she know if Natalee was a virgin. Just another pathetic liar.

    134. kayjay on January 30th, 2008 6:08 pm

      #126 Very nice…..I’ll be happy to write the little bastard a testimonial…but the only place he’ll be able to use it is in hell! Where I hjope he goes very soon.

    135. sirensong on January 30th, 2008 6:28 pm

      You are absolutely right, Maggie. Great post.

    136. Texasmom on January 30th, 2008 7:39 pm

      Great post Maggie!

    137. Carpe Noctem on January 30th, 2008 7:42 pm

      Hey Satish,

      #116

      Stop talkin’ through Deepak! You look
      like a damn stoned Muppet. I doubt this is
      really you, but if it is… read a
      friggin book, alreadyyyy.

      Yaz sound like a children’s
      ‘learning to read’ textbook.

      See Jane. Watch Spot catch the frisbee!
      Ned and Jane walked to the Vandersloot
      home. Something BAD HAPPENED. See how
      they RUN like a ‘mother’.

      -j4n

    138. Carpe Noctem on January 30th, 2008 7:49 pm

      Help bring Natalee home.

      ARUBA, PLEASE DON’T TOUCH

      HOT BATH WATER…

      BURN DA BABYYY!

      UH OHHHHH

      V – E – R – N!

      -Dustin Hoffman

    139. brie on January 30th, 2008 10:17 pm

      HO..HUM..Just when do you think we will see justice…!!!!Somebody, somewhere, I hope!!!!

    140. 10061906 on January 31st, 2008 12:06 am

      Since Ms. Wever states that her newspaper does not allow Adult advertising; I would be inclined to believe her. The ads do show “Aruba Today” supplying the space. As a further vindication I think Ms Wever should supply us with the names of the owner’s of the “Yap Yum”, “Xotic”, “World’s Best”, “Heaven”, “Studio 69”, “XXXTACY”. Hell we may even be able to find out where Natalee really was taken that night she disappeared.

      Usually where there are drugs and prostitutes, the MAFIA is not far behind
      ________________________
      SM: Some are listed at the Aruba Chamber website – just do a Registry search: (klaasend)
      http://www.arubachamber.com/registry/registry_search.afp

    141. Betsy on January 31st, 2008 12:14 am

      Is it true that Anita has been hitting the gym as of late to attempt to trim the fat off her thigh arms?

    142. brie on January 31st, 2008 12:17 am

      Bottom line..why isn’t Joran and the Kalpoes responsible for returning Natalee to the hotel..like she said…!!!!

    143. brie on January 31st, 2008 12:31 am

      The hotel is where Natalee expected to go….that was her message to her friends….Joran it is beyond time to confess again….which I think you did along time ago but Daddy interfered…..

    144. Vicki on January 31st, 2008 8:25 am

      In a way, we were just as niave as Natalee, believing that LIERUBA wanted to solve this and find Natalee…at least I was..I believed that the “POLICE” would find her and she would be able to go home…Thats what drives me..the unbelievable farce of the whole friggin Island..It hurts me to my heart to know Natalee was hoodwinked just as we were, and it cost her her life. SHAME ON YOU LIERUBA for allowing a MONSTER like URINE and his DISGUSTING FATHER to go free…for that you will never recover. NATALEE will haunt your HELLHOLE for ever….

    145. 10061906 on January 31st, 2008 10:35 am

      Klaasend:140
      Awesome: Thank You

    146. JusticeforNatalee on January 31st, 2008 11:23 am

      Plans are coming together very well for NY and Boston!

      Vicki is still working very hard to pull it all together.
      Kudos to Vicki!

      People are still needed and also donations would be greatly appreciated. Funds are running low due to the numerous expenses incurred for TWO back-to-back shows. It costs a lot to make flyer copies, to ship the signs, to purchase giveaway message items, and also sometimes gas money is needed.

      So, please help if you can. Thank you very much, fellow monkeys! Let’s continue to stand for Natalee and her justice due!

      Please contact Vicki: JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com

    147. brie on January 31st, 2008 11:38 am

      Great video from the Persistence….it’s wonderful how that keep in touch with us all the time….I truly wish for them the reward in their hearts to find Natalee….whom we all love!

    148. Maggie on January 31st, 2008 12:03 pm

      I just heard on FOX news, new evidence in the Natalee Holloway case according to the prosecutor’s office on how Natalee Holloway died. Said it came from a Dutch Crime reporter.. They are investigating it..

    149. JusticeforNatalee on January 31st, 2008 12:03 pm

      Posted by Helen in the SM Forum:

      Good morning all.
      Just heard a FOX news alert that Peter DeVries has new information coming out of Holland. Chief Prosecutor on Aruba says they are intensifying the investigation. New information may help solve the mystery of Natalee Holloway’s’ disappearance.

    150. Carpe Noctem on January 31st, 2008 12:09 pm
    151. Carpe Noctem on January 31st, 2008 12:14 pm
    152. elisabeth on January 31st, 2008 12:25 pm

      Dutch television: De Vries has with hidden cameras acquired new evidence that the prosecution is now analysing. He claims to have solved the case, and knows were the body was hidden. He wont make public who did it waiting action of the authorities

    153. Maggie on January 31st, 2008 12:33 pm

      I just heard Fox say new evidence how Natalee died and why a body was never found.

    154. jamila on January 31st, 2008 8:11 pm

      Hy over there. What evidence U have to say that ARUBA is expoiting children? Since the last time I check there was NO MISSING CHILDREN IN ARUBA. NO HUMAN TRAFFIC. Before U say something double check it first.

      And CNN did make a story of young americans having fun over in aruba. DID U SEE THAT? Did U see how many young children went to their hotel room DRUNK??? DID aruban people put drink in their month? I don’t think so. THEY want to have fun. Don’t blame ARUBA. And miss U can write a book, U are full of fantasy.

      GREETING from ARUBA

    155. V. Leamonth on February 4th, 2008 4:27 pm

      BEWARE!!!! After hearing Van der Sloot’s sick confession on cam, we will NEVER EVER go to Aruba, they are not arresting him?? we just removed Aruba from all of our future travel plans. The Aruba Government is corrupt and could care less what they’re people do!!

    156. Mr Iberostar on February 9th, 2008 11:26 am

      ARUBA one crappy island!
      I’ve been, before this horror show, and was very unimpressed! The city of Oranjestad is dirty, and you get accosted walking the streets for everything from drugs to prostitutes. No problem man, we can meet at your hotel in 15 minutes…..thanks, but no thanks. the people aren’t the friendliest either. Go to the Dominican Republic, more beautiful, more sunshine, and you’ll feel welcome.

    157. OJ Simpson on February 16th, 2008 3:00 am

      Hey…. That would never happen in a great country like the USA. Never has an innocent woman died and the justice system not prevailed here. I, OJ Simpson, am proof of that. That would be wrong anywhere and if any government or legislation allowed that.

    158. ANAP on October 15th, 2008 1:00 pm

      Sorry folks but I have to disagree. I actually am glad none of you people are ever coming to Aruba because we hate people like you spreading trash about a great island. Been there for 20 years – people are great, island is one of the safest in all of the Carribean, food is excellent etc. Unfortunate that one instance is enought to give an entire islands economy a black eye. Not blaming anyone but anything can happen anywhere you travel. Chaperones have a job to do and obviously they weren’t doing it. Looks like this was a tragic event that could have been avoided if #1 friends looked out for one another when traveling to unfamilar places. #2 legal guardians did their job to protect and look out for young adults like they were supposed to. Aruba doing a poor job handling the case has more to do with them never having to deal with something of this magnitude than being difficult. Have fun on your trips to the garbage islands and watch your back. Aruba is one of the finest and I will spend thousands there every year to support them. I’ll be going there on Sunday for three weeks – I’ll buy a few cocktails for you when I’m there. Peace.

    159. mark on November 1st, 2009 5:38 pm

      this is for all america who blame Aruba or Arubans the island never had any bad name nothing bad ever hapent the only thing that hapened for this hondred years is the disapearence of Natalee Holloway and you sad we where bad peaple oh come on in the U.S this crime rape murder kidnaping hapened 1 every minute in Aruba 1 in one hundred years so chut up. Aruba is the safest place.to be trust me the aruban peaple are nice and generouse.
      ___________
      SM: So then why the cover up?
      All of you people in Aruba should have demanded that JVDS and Kalpoe’s be tried for NH’s murder.
      Instead, you just sat by and wanted tourists to come to your island.

      The fact of the matter is that to this day, no one that goes to Aruba or ever contemplates going there should ever feel comfort or expect the police, the LE, the courts, the government or the people to do the right theng when God forbid “something bad happens”.

      Those are the cold hard facts.

      How many crimes are never reported so that tourists are kept in the dark?

      Please dont be ignorant and compare a country with 30 million people to one with barely 100K and that is advertized as a safe vacation spot. Obviously it cannot be considered safe. We would ask Natalee, but she is no longer with us.

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