Natalee Holloway Disappearance: Even the Carlos N’ Charlie’s Story Does not Match Up

One would suspect that the original stories that were told to the Aruban authorities CarlosnCharliesStreet2were discussed between the three suspects. This was a version of the truth that they wanted the police to believe. However, it is rather telling that even these events have changed over time. The three suspects and who ever else was involved in fabricating the initial stories never could have imagined that Beth Twitty would have been as persistent in her efforts to get the truth.

Deepak in his statement to police stated that Natalee Holloway was very drunk. This would have obviously been a point that the three suspects agreed to tell the ALE. Interestingly enough, that is not the story that Joran Van der Sloot proclaimed in his interview with Greta Van Susteren. Suddenly, Natalee Holloway went from drunk and falling asleep in the Deepak version to not drunk and knowing what was going on in the Joran version.

Why does the initial agreed upon story change? The three suspects have admitted that their initial statements to police were lies. However, why does the fact that Natalee SM CnC close viewwent from drunk to sober change? Or as Joran states, “she had been drinking, but she knew what she was doing”. What kind of a self-serving after the fact comment is that? Could it be that nine months later Joran Van der Sloot not only wants to dodge a murder rap, but also a sexual assault one as well? We can see the changes and the evolution of the story in how it serves Joran Van der Sloots advantage.

It is interesting to anyone who questions the lies that come out of all three suspects mouths and continue to do so, that the accounts that they try to present today continue to make no sense. The initial lies are what they wanted people to believe, so why now is it so important for Joran Van der Sloot to show Natalee Holloway was not drunk? A petite girl not drunk after drinking for hours and being given a shot of 151 rum at the end of the night after a days worth of drinking.

Deepak’s first statement he gave police on June 9, 2005

The following portion discussing the three going to, being in and leaving Carlos N’ Charlie’s. SM CnC from rear parking lot

Then we drove to Carlos and Charlie. I parked my car at the back, in the parking lot of Carlos and Charlie, with the front of my car facing the wall of Carlos and Charlie. We got out and walked to Carlos and Charlie. It was then about 12:30. We went straight to the bar. Joran bought drinks for us. He didn’t ask us what we wanted, as he already knew what we wanted. He bought three yards with whiskey and Coke.

We walked to the stage. The stage is a raised floor where people dance. C&CWe stood there looking on. I guess there were about 70 people present, or more perhaps. We stood there chatting among the three of us. A little later, I guess about three or four minutes, Joran was called by a girl by a movement of her hand. Judging by the way that the girl was dancing, I presumed that she was pretty drunk. Joran had indicated, signaling by hand, that he did not want to go over to her. After the song was finished, the girl walked over to Joran.

The girl walked swaying to Joran. I could see that it was a pretty girl. I saw that the girl was talking to Joran. I heard that they were talking about dancing. I saw Joran laugh and saw him reply to her. I couldn’t hear what Joran replied. I looked around and didn’t follow their conversation.

A friend of mine came walking over to me. His name is Ali. I don’t know Satish_joran_depak_200182his surname. He used to be in the same class with me at the middle school. Ali stood and talked to me for five to ten minutes. Ali then walked away. When I turned around, both Satish and Joran were nowhere to be seen. They hadn’t told me where they were going. I looked for them briefly but couldn’t find them. I was briefly in the restrooms. I was not patient enough to keep on looking.

After I left the restrooms, I looked around a bit. I went by the bar, passed the glass area where souvenirs of Carlos and Charlie are sold, and walked outside. When I walked outside, I heard the announcement that it was the last chance to buy alcohol. That is always announced before closing time.

I walked to my car. My car was the only car parked behind in the parking lot. I went and sat in my car to wait for Satish and Joran. I had no more phone credit to be able to call them. I had the car door open. I was listening to the radio and adjusting the volume. The door on the right side opened, and I looked up and saw that it was Satish. Satish sat down next to me.

Then the back door opened. Joran got into the car. He got in on the right side and sat behind Satish. The girl also got in on the left side. I was surprised and had not expected that the girl would also come with them. She sat behind me in the car. I greeted her. I said to her, Hi. She greeted me back and said her name. I immediately forgot her name. I didn’t mind that she was sitting in the car. It was not the first time that I had girls that were on holiday in my car and dropped them off at their hotel.

Joran Van der Sloot interview with Greta Van Susteren

VAN SUSTEREN: When they picked you up, did you go straight from your home to Carlos and Charlie’s?

VAN DER SLOOT: When they picked me up, we went straight there, straight to Carlos and Charlie’s.

VAN SUSTEREN: When you arrived at Carlos ‘n Charlie’s, any idea about what time it is?

VAN DER SLOOT: It was probably, you know, 12:15, I think, 12:30 maybe.

VAN SUSTEREN: How late does it stay open?

VAN DER SLOOT: That night it was open until 1:00 AM.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is that usual? I mean, every…

VAN DER SLOOT: Every — during weekdays, it’s open until 1:00 AM, yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: And were the girls from Mountain Brook already there?

VAN DER SLOOT: They were already there. I walked in, and I — when I walked in, I saw one of them on the left-hand side and she just said — she said, Hi. And I said, Hi, back. {{This is already a different version of events from their made up story. Even entering the bar was changed.}} And then I walked in with them and was going to go to the bar with them and get a drink. And that’s when — right when I walked in, I saw Natalee was standing on the dance floor. She was dancing, and she screamed at me to go dance with her. She was dancing on the stage. There was, like, a podium there.

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John Q. Kelly on Rita Cosby (1/25/06): “These are the three boys that took her in the car and were the last ones with her and admitted to it”

Rita Cosby Live & Direct for January 25, 2006 (Jossy Mansur & John Q. Kelly)

Joining us now tonight to sort through some of this exclusive information is Jossy Mansur with Aruba‘s “Diario” newspaper, and also here with us is Holloway family attorney John Q. Kelly.

Jossy, let me start with you. What do you make of this line of questions? What do you think investigators going for?

JOSSY MANSUR, MANAGING EDITOR, “DIARIO”: I think that they selected the 20 candidates, more or less 20 candidates, when they went over all the questioning that the FBI had done of them. And these 20 gave some kind of declarations that they found interesting and they want to follow up on. Dunessearch1

COSBY: Now, you understand there‘s something connecting the tip that we talked about on the show last week, Jossy, about the sand dunes, the lighthouse, tying to this. Walk us through again what that original tip was that led investigators to go back to the sand dunes, back to the lighthouse.

MANSUR: Well, in the last month, the police were very busy talking to Fishnet 2many friends of Joran‘s that they found of interest. And one of them apparently gave them some very, very reliable information that they‘ve been acting on. That‘s why they‘ve been searching over at the dunes behind the lighthouse and also on the ocean, searching for a fish net.

Fish net

COSBY: And how did this tipster get that information? Do we get a sense that he came forward or they went to him?

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Beth Twitty Live in NYC, Fox “The Big Story”

Last night on Fox’s “The Big Story” Beth Holloway Twitty was live on set in NYC discussing the disappearance of her daughter Natalee Holloway and Joran Van der Sloot’s consistent disregard to take responsibility for anything.

Hat Tip: BamaLady for unofficial account of interview

Natalee’s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty is here with us. Beth, how do you feel things are going down there in Aruba?

BETH: Well, when I hear that the search is continuing for Natalee of course that is something that Jug and her father and I so desperately hope continues. One thing that really concerns me though is the statements that they have from Joran and also there has been a taped confession from Deepak, and they are clearly stating how Natalee is coming in and out of consciousness. Joran has already admitted to having sex with Natalee at his home at 1:40 am. Why, though, they were not brought charges against for rape I just don’t understand.

And now there is this new interview that Joran did with A Current Affair. Tell us about that and tell us why you are so angry about it.

BETH: It is typical of Joran, and it is so ironic when you listen to his video tape. He is not to blame for anything. He is placing the blame on the tourism, that they say it is down in Aruba and he is placing that on me. He is placing, as far as Natalee being drunk, he has even admitted during this interview that he buys her the shot that he buys her the drink, and he is blaming her for being drunk. It is like he does not accept responsibility for anything that has gone on when he is the one who is completely responsible for this. He is the reason why Aruba, that the tourism is down.

Let’s talk about the tourism. Are you asking for a boycott of Aruba?

BETH: What I am asking for is for the millions of people who have supported me through their thoughts and prayers through emails through cards and letters to please consider refraining from traveling to Aruba and other Dutch Kingdom territories until Natalee is returned to me, because they CAN make this happen! The answers are there, we have the three individuals, three suspects including Paulus Van der Sloot that have the answers to what happened and where Natalee is.

But if Joran is now in Holland, Aruba really isn’t involved with him in particular, who you hold primarily responsible, correct?

So it appears that in advance of the Joran Van der Sloot “A Current Affair” interview Beth Twitty is going to do the LIVE Talk show circuit in NYC to ask tourists not to go to Aruba until her daughter Natalee is returned. I will guess that she will be live on MSM cable shows all day tomorrow. The Joran “Current Affair” interview may have been a colossal mistake in regards to Aruba. Then again, I doubt very much whether Joran cares what happens in Aruba seeing that he has fled to Holland.
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Joran van der Sloot denies responsibility in A Current Affair Interview

While talking with “A Current Affair” in Holland, Joran van der Sloot denied responsibility as to why Natalee Holloway is missing. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Joran Van der Sloot admits initially lying to investigators but states that Natalee was fine when he left her on the beach. Satish_joran_depak_200182

A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview. Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway’s May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for “A Current Affair” in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning.

In the interview with A Current Affair Joran Van der Sloot claims the relationship was consensual and he went so far to say that he even told Natalee Holloway that they had to leave; however, “she wanted to stay all night”.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach. “She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down,” he said in the interview.

So now the story is that Joran Van der Sloot being the gentleman that he is was insisting that they both leave and it was Natalee Holloway, a girl who cannot defend her self’s fault. Joran Van der Sloot also went on to say,

“Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too,” van der Sloot said. “She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.”

Earth to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following: Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW? Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything. Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?

(Full AP story)

SECURITY GUARDS RELEASED TONIGHT: DEPAK TO JONES – WE NEVER WENT BACK TO HOLIDAY INN

Jones11:02 AM

The Two Aruban Security Guards Mickey John, 30, and Abraham Jones, 28 are to be released tonight according to an interview with one of their lawyers on TOP 95.

 Jones is out now, Mickey John is due out in a little bit

This is a great thing as it shows the case is moving forward and these men do have their freedom.

The real story is that Jones got one of the three suspects to talk to him and admit they never went to the Holiday Inn after they left with Natalee. Depak told jones that they went to the lighthouse and then dropped Joran and Natalee near the Marriot, and then the brothers went home. WOW! 11:25

 Jones says

  • ” Day 1 I knew I was innocent”
  • “Never saw Natalie before”
  •  ” Suing is undecided”
  •  ”Talk to Depak in . Interviewing him in the cell”
  • ” Holiday Inn Story all made up, never brought her back to Holiday inn” ”
  • “Went to Lighthouse. Dropped him and nat near Marriot”
  • “Very Very Drunk Under the heavy influence of alcohol . Left lighthouse at 230″
  • Whole Mickey Mouse Game” Dectectives apologized to him”
  • “Left Carlos and Charlies and went to the lighthouse and then droped Joran and Natalee at the Marriot”
  • Depak went online and talked to him (Dutch Boy) on cell phone and chat online
  • “I was smarter than him. “ He got Depak to trust him
  • Arrested for being black.
  • Concerning the missing girl.
  • Interview in English and made him write statement in dutch I need full apology from the Aruban and Dutch Government.
  • Status in Depak in Cell , Looked very calm,

 

  • Mother mad as heck about the son being arrested in the morning and very rude to his mother.
  • Let go at night like a thief. # hours looking for my son…
  • 3 hours did not know where he is. “
  • You are not allowed to see him, you are not allowed to talk to him. (Tom : Joran’s mother was there with Johan)
  • “This is discrimination, they dragged my son out in public, while the whites got to cover themselves. “

UPDATE: FOX GETS STORY UP AT 12:00 . AP Gets story up at 11:18 Blogs beat the MSM hands down ! AP

Prosecutors on Monday released two former hotel security guards who were the first men detained in the disappearance of an Alabama honors student, the day after the girl’s missing mother said they were innocent. Three young men who took 18-year-old Natalee Holloway to a beach early in the morning hours before she went missing on May 30 remain in custody. “I’m very happy but also disappointed,” Antonius “Mickey” John told The Associated Press by telephone of his detention since June 5. “I knew from day one that I was innocent.” He spoke from the home of his lawyer, Noraina Pietersz, who said the release of John, 30, and Abraham Jones, 28, came before a judge reviewed a motion for release filed Monday

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