No Matter Where They Reside, Defense Attorney Act Lower than Pond Scum … Care to Discuss the Times of the Chats?
DID THE SUSPECTS LAWYERS EXPOSE THEIR OWN CLIENTS IN THEIR NEWS CONFERENCE???
The defense attorney are not denying that the internet chats took place, nor are they denying when the internet chats took place. They are denying the interpretation of the content of what was said. A CNN article reports that Hans Mos stated that the chat took place shortly after May 30, 2005.
Mos said evidence on an Internet chat shortly after May 30, 2005, suggested Holloway was dead and prosecutors used the chat messages to rearrest the three key suspects in the case, CNN reported Friday.
So the real question remains, when was the exact time of this internet chat and why would a suspect. Did the internet chat take place prior to anyone having knowledge that Natalee Holloway was missing? If so, how could they have known?
“That chat session was about two subjects: the disappearance of Natalee and the death of a tennis instructor that drowned near Conchi.
It makes no difference where they reside, defense attorneys worldwide like to insult our intelligence and throw mud against the wall in an attempt to get guilty suspects off of the crimes they committed. Pond scum of the world rejoice, you just earned a higher rung on the ladder of humanity ahead of defence attorneys.
The lawyers of the “former” three suspects met to discuss away the evidence against their clients, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe. You remember, the 3 people that were last seen with Natalee Holloway prior to her disappearance forever? One thing is for certain, I am not sure how much gloating that these defense attorneys wish to be doing as having been aided by a pathetic investigation. What are they going to say when Natalee’s body is found?
These are the lame excuses they used to defend their clients who have yet to provide an honest statement, cannot explain how Natalee Holloway was never seen again after getting into a vehicle with the three, and a believable scenario as to why one of their clients are reference to Natalee’s death. They will always come up with some excuse as to why their clients are not guilty, that is what they are paid for. Eventually, the excuses come to an end.
Posted December 24, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Crime, Deepak Kalpoe, Joran Van der Sloot, Judicial, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, WTF | 43 comments |
Aruba, Just How Much Evidence Do You Need to Actually Prosecute a Case? When is New Evidence not New Evidence, or is the Issue the Judge Reviewing It?
When is new evidence not new evidence … when it takes place in Aruba. Is it the evidence that is the issue, or is it the judges that are reviewing the evidence?
One needs to ask the following question of Aruba officials and the Aruban people. What would happen in Aruba if a suspect was tried and convicted of a rape, murder or other violent crime and was serving time in prison only to have new evidence presented in their case because of new technology. Say for instance, new DNA testing that proved 100% that the convicted suspect could never have committed the crime. In Aruba, would that be considered new evidence? Would that new evidence be used to exonerate the suspect and allow the falsely convicted suspect to go free like HERE or HERE. Or would the Aruban legal system say, who cares … you must finish your sentence for a crime that you did not commit?
Now answer that very same question in reverse. What’s the difference when that same new evidence proves that a crime was committed and by who? Would not that be considered new evidence in an investigation? Hmm?
Thus is the situation in the Natalee Holloway investigation where the Aruban prosecutor, Hans Mos, presented new evidence from a suspects computer hard drive that stated, “Natalee Holloway was dead”. Evidence that the prosecutor states was only made newly available through new technology from the Netherlands. How can new evidence gained from new technology not be considered new evidence is the real question. The question then really becomes, is it the evidence that is the issue or the judge reviewing the evidence.
With the newest digital technologies from the Netherlands, the investigation team this time recovered what was impossible earlier. On the hard drive of a confiscated computer was a chat-session, in which one of the suspects said that the missing teenager Natalee Holloway is dead. The OM didn’t say which of the suspects said that, but the information is substantial and especially ‘new’ evidence, and sufficient for the OM to arrest the three. Obtaining information from new technology is also considered new evidence, explained Mos. He compared it with a DNA-investigation that after years, can still give evidence.
Take a good hard look at what this evidence really is folks. A suspect who was last seen with Natalee Holloway before she disappeared forever and said she was dead. This occurred between 5 and 6 hours after Natalee Holloway was last seen with the three suspects. Why would a person who was seen leaving Carlos n’ Charlie’s with Natalee Holloway ever reference the word “dead” if they did not have person knowledge that the Alabama teenager was in fact dead? We have been told all during this case, “if there is no body, there is no crime”. That is utter nonsense, if a suspect references the fact that the person in question is dead … then guess what … that is a complete admission to the fact that she is. Now the question arises, how and why would any of the three suspects make such a claim or even have knowledge of such information? This admission of “death” is long before the story had ever been reported or the TV cameras and media came to Aruba.
In an Internet chat shortly after Holloway vanished, one of the three suspects said she was dead, Mos said.
The chat, retrieved from a computer hard disk, was among new evidence prosecutors used to justify re-arresting the three in November, he said.
New technology that was not available in 2005 was used to find that chat and more between two of the three suspects, as well as others, he said. (CNN)
We will not even get into the fact that the three suspects had an MO and openly bragged on line about what their plans were to do to American girls that they picked up. No premeditation there, huh? Think there were references to the potential use of “date rape” drugs in those chat sessions? Seriously people, how exactly do you think that a person walks out of a bar in less that 1/2 hours with another person that they had never met before? Hmm?
Posted December 23, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Amigoe, Aruba, Corruption, Crime, Deepak Kalpoe, Joran Van der Sloot, Judicial, Murder, Natalee Holloway, NH Statements | 50 comments |
WTF: Canadian Man Who Sexually Abused his 4 Year Old Daughter Live on the Internet Sentenced to Only 4 Years
THATS IT!!!
How does the following heinous and repulsive crime only get 4 years? Does anyone care about the children? How can 4 years equate to a life time that this child will endure? How can the sentence be equal to the age of the victim?
“The victim will have this cloud over her head for the rest of her life. The images will always be out there,”
“Words cannot describe what is found in those pictures. They are of a 3- and 4-year-old girl being used by her father for his own sexual gratification.”
One really has to wonder what the deterrent is and how the punishments will ever fit the crimes when the following types of sentences are handed out to sex crimes criminals. A Canadian man was sentenced to only 4 years in prison after sexually abusing his 4 year old daughter live on the internet so that another man could view it. What is even more despicable is that his attorney actually whined in court that his client had been assaulted behind bars. An eye for an eye my friend.
ST. THOMAS – A man who sexually abused his 4-year-old daughter live on the Internet for the gratification of another man was sentenced today to four years in a case the judge called a “sickening” breach of trust.
Posted December 21, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Bizarre, Child Welfare, Crime, Internet, Judicial, Sex Offender, World, WTF | 7 comments |
In Curacao the OM Believes that People Should be Protected from Suspects of Murder & Rape, Why Don’t they in Aruba?
In Willemstad, Curocao the public prosecutor (OM) believes that suspects of felonies like murder and rape should not be walking the street. The citizens and innocent people walking the streets should not be put in harms way. So why does the public prosecutor in Aruba not feel the same? Why is it not only okay to let suspects walk the street, but also to let them go altogether and close the case even though they believe the suspects played a part in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
Suspects of felonies like murder or rape cannot be wandering the streets, just because there is no room in the House of Detention. “A judge that does that does not recognize dilemmas and because of that neglects his/her duty.”
This is the reaction of the Public Prosecutor on lawyer Eldon ‘Peppie’ Sulvaran’s claim in this paper last Saturday that suspects ‘rot’ in the police-cells longer than the allowable maximum norm of 18 days, due to insufficient room in prison. “What would the reaction of a victim of a robbery be, if the suspect is released shortly after the committed crime, due to lack of cells and the victim is perhaps still in the hospital?”
Why isn’t the prosecutor in Aruba doing what their job description most certainly states, prosecuting criminals? Not just violent crimes … any crime that a suspected individual has committed. Instead in Aruba, they seem to only prosecute those crimes that those in power give them the okay to. Those suspected of crimes who are people of privilege or are associates of those in power are turned loose under the guise of not enough evidence. However, maybe there would have been enough evidence if investigators had actually properly investigated a crime instead of attempting to covering it up from the start.
OM: Also the citizens ought to be protected (Amigoe, 12/20/2007)
WILLEMSTAD – Suspects of felonies like murder or rape cannot be wandering the streets, just because there is no room in the House of Detention. “A judge that does that does not recognize dilemmas and because of that neglects his/her duty.”
Posted December 20, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Amigoe, Aruba, Crime, Judicial, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, World, WTF | 89 comments |
Aruban Officials … Gutless and Corrupt Cowards to the End … Refuse to Prosecute Crimes in Aruba
One Gutless Island …
There is gutless, there is cowardice and then there is corrupt. In some special cases we get all three … Welcome to the “Perfect Storm” of anti-investigation and prosecution of the Natalee Holloway case, known as Aruba.
If you are an Aruban today, you should be ashamed and embarrassed. You should also be up in arms as your island that depends on tourism just took another hit. No one in their right mind would travel to a place where suspects get out of jail and off murder wrap free cards are handed out on a who you know basis. Tourists obviously have no legal or judicial recourse for crimes committed against them in Aruba.
Of course one wonders how could one prosecute a “a violent crime or culpable homicide,” if the fix was in from the outset by investigators refusing to investigate. We go back to those initial comments by Paul Van der Sloot, “if there is no body, there is no crime”. Isn’t it amazing that the Aruban prosecutor referenced those similar words. Isn’t it more amazing that Paul Van der Sloot made the comment in the first place. The answer to any thinking person is … because he knew they never would.
The fact that the body of the missing teenager was never found is for the OM ‘an important shortage’ in the possible reconstruction of what had exactly happened. “Because of that, the current dossier cannot give sufficient answer on the question which punishable facts took place in the night of Holloway’s disappearance, nor can it answer the question what the exact role of the suspects was in this”
What kind of BS is this!!! You people had all the evidence right in front of you and you refused to take action. Oh that’s right … you arrested two black security guards in an effort to railroad them for the crime against Natalee Holloway. What a convenient excuse that there is no body. Hmm … just like Paul Van der Sloot mentioned … hmmm. So what happens if Texas EquuSearch finds Natalee Holloway’s body? What excuse will you have then to not prosecute the three people who were last seen with Natalee before she disappeared forever.
Suspects Holloway not prosecuted – AMIGOE
One of the last pictures of Natalee Holloway and the three other ‘central figures’ Satish and Deepak Kalpoe and Joran van der Sloot taken in Aruba.
ORANJESTAD – The Public Prosecutor (OM) decided not to prosecute the three suspects in the Holloway-case. The dossier does not have enough evidence for a violent crime or culpable homicide. Also the burden of proof for possible legal evidence is not sufficient, concluded the OM.
Posted December 19, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Amigoe, Aruba, boycott, Child Welfare, Crime, Deepak Kalpoe, Joran Van der Sloot, Judicial, Missing Persons, Murder, Natalee Holloway, Paul Van der Sloot, Travel, WTF | 145 comments |