No Matter Where They Reside, Defense Attorney Act Lower than Pond Scum … Care to Discuss the Times of the Chats?



The defense attorney are not denying that the internet chats took place, nor are they denying when the internet chats took place. They are denying the interpretation of the content of what was said. A CNN article reports that Hans Mos stated that the chat took place shortly after May 30, 2005.

Mos said evidence on an Internet chat shortly after May 30, 2005, suggested Holloway was dead and prosecutors used the chat messages to rearrest the three key suspects in the case, CNN reported Friday.

So the real question remains, when was the exact time of this internet chat and why would a suspect. Did the internet chat take place prior to anyone having knowledge that Natalee Holloway was missing? If so, how could they have known?

“That chat session was about two subjects: the disappearance of Natalee and the death of a tennis instructor that drowned near Conchi.


It makes no difference where they reside, defense attorneys worldwide like to insult our intelligence and throw mud against the wall in an attempt to get guilty suspects off of the crimes they committed. Pond scum of the world rejoice, you just earned a higher rung on the ladder of humanity ahead of defence attorneys.

The lawyers of the “former” three suspects met to discuss away the evidence against their clients, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe. You remember, the 3 people that were last seen with Natalee Holloway prior to her disappearance forever? One thing is for certain, I am not sure how much gloating that these defense attorneys wish to be doing as having been aided by a pathetic investigation. What are they going to say when Natalee’s body is found?

These are the lame excuses they used to defend their clients who have yet to provide an honest statement, cannot explain how Natalee Holloway was never seen again after getting into a vehicle with the three, and a believable scenario as to why one of their clients are reference to Natalee’s death. They will always come up with some excuse as to why their clients are not guilty, that is what they are paid for. Eventually, the excuses come to an end.

  • A girl from Surinam told the Dutch detectives in June of this year that right after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005, she had a conversation with Satish.  “That can never be convincing after two years, is the opinion of Wix.  “”She might have said that something was wrong, but for as far as I am aware of, she only said that Satish was sad.

Of course it can be convincing after two years, we are talking about a new prosecutor to the case who would look at thing and go after comments in declarations more professionally than the last prosecutor. Also, Attorney Wix uses the old lawyereze phrase … for as far as I am aware of …” which is translated to normal talk as “I do not care to know the truth”.

  • also has problems with the other testimony taken out of an old chat-session of Deepak’s computer.  “That chat session was about two subjects: the disappearance of Natalee and the death of a tennis instructor that drowned near Conchi.  The word ‘su’ that can mean ‘his’ or ‘her’ in Papiamento, was interpreted wrong in the transcript.  Instead of ‘su morto’, his death, it became her death. 

This is where such defense attorneys give all defense attoneys a bad name and have them placed under pond scum in the pecking order of humanity. Please do not insult our intelligence, that 4 to 5 hours after the three suspects were last seen leaving Carlos N’ Charlies, where their sole intention was to pick up an American tourist and do what they have stated they have done 20 times before, that Satish is talking about his dead tennis instructor.

OM’s explanation of evidence do not tally (Amigoe: 12/23/2007)

In a press conference, lawyers Hose Figaroa, Ronald Wix, and Elgin Zeppenfeldt explained the media that according to them, none of justice’s evidence tally.

ORANJESTAD – The lawyers of the three former suspects, Hose Figaroa, Ronald Wix, Elgin Zeppenfeldt, and David Kock said in a press conference, that the ‘new’ evidence that the Public Prosecutor (OM) provided after the dismissal do not tally.  Their office has been swamped lately with hatred mails and threats, including death.

A girl from Surinam told the Dutch detectives in June of this year that right after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005, she had a conversation with Satish.  “That can never be convincing after two years, is the opinion of Wix.  “”She might have said that something was wrong, but for as far as I am aware of, she only said that Satish was sad.”  Wix also has problems with the other testimony taken out of an old chat-session of Deepak’s computer.  “That chat session was about two subjects: the disappearance of Natalee and the death of a tennis instructor that drowned near Conchi.  The word ‘su’ that can mean ‘his’ or ‘her’ in Papiamento, was interpreted wrong in the transcript.  Instead of ‘su morto’, his death, it became her death.  Also the court realized the misinterpretation; Deepak would have otherwise been behind bars.  Nobody has ever said that Natalee is dead, but the OM assumes that with this testimony.”

The lawyers consider the fact that Justice hinted that the former suspects of manslaughter on Natalee Holloway haven’t seen the last of them, even worse.  The OM said in a press conference this week that the case has only entered a new phase, and is not closed.  As soon as there are more clues, these will be investigated, and the former suspects, including Joran van der Sloot, will be arrested again.  Wix says that what the OM said is indeed possible, but the evidence must be ‘very weighty and new’.  “The OM keeps the delusion that the three are still suspects.  Legally, they must be left alone, and due to the dismissal, Aruba has nothing to say about their innocence.  Let them find the girl first and only then can they annoy our clients.  They cannot even proof that there was a crime.”  

Justice’s other reason for arresting the three former suspects was based on their declarations to the media that they would tell what exactly has happened in the night Holloway disappeared.  They didn’t say anything though.  According to Wix, everything has already been said.  “They said that they won’t talk, but in the meantime they have already given at least 20 declarations.  They were arrested because there was new evidence, but then it turned out that there was no new evidence, so they had nothing to say.”

Wix, together with his brother councils, will probably demand damages.  They are currently considering via the court whether they can recover the costs for among others hiring a lawyer in the US.  Wix won’t say what the amount is.

The firm David Kock & Wix was swamped with threats during the ‘reopening’ of the Holloway-case.  They received many hatred mails and also death threats.  “I received two more of such e-mails on Thursday.  One of them wishes the death for me and my family.  The other one said, ‘you must wish that I do not come to Aruba. Maybe, I ought to report that”, said Wix.

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    43 Responses to “No Matter Where They Reside, Defense Attorney Act Lower than Pond Scum … Care to Discuss the Times of the Chats?”

    1. Carpe Noctem on December 24th, 2007 2:27 pm

      That flaming t-biscuit Hans Mos, ABSOLUTELY

      STATED IT WAS ‘NEW EVIDENCE to Geraldo just

      about 1 month ago.

      Here’s last night’s flashback to back that up.


      Hans should taken off the case.



    2. Melissa on December 24th, 2007 3:16 pm

      All legal battling aside-Aruba will always be known to the ordinary person on the street (general population) as the place where Natalee Holloway was murdered and the crime was covered up. Two years ago I was riding in a cab in Manhattan and just happened to mention Aruba in passing and the Nigerian cab driver said,”Oh-Aruba-the place where they killed the girl.”

    3. Allan on December 24th, 2007 4:10 pm

      Isn’t the tennis instructor the one Joran was threatened by the Kalpoes they would tell how Joran threw him in the ocean.

      If we had the video tape of Natalee that night it would not be enough to prosecute.

      Whatever criminal parties are in Aruba must have a stronghold and what the heck to protect – Joran? Must be some adults in on this sex rape stuff for everybody to cover, afraid Joran would turn them in too!

    4. stoney on December 24th, 2007 4:33 pm

      READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Report: Ex-suspect regrets no trial in Holloway caseStory Highlights
      Report: Joran van der Sloot says he wanted to clear his name at trial

      Prosecutors say there isn’t enough evidence to prosecute van der Sloot, two others

      Van der Sloot reportedly says there was no new evidence to justify latest arrest

      Aruba officials say they suspect U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway is dead

      Next Article in World »

      Read TIMELINE

      AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) — The man long subjected to police scrutiny in the disappearance in Aruba of American teenager Natalee Holloway said in an interview published Monday he regretted not being brought to trial so he could clear his name once and for all.

      Joran van der Sloot appears near his parents’ Aruba home earlier this month shortly after his release from prison.

      Joran van der Sloot, 20, was re-arrested in Aruba in November for a new interrogation about Holloway’s disappearance in 2005.

      But public prosecutors in the Dutch Caribbean island territory closed their investigation last week.

      They said they believed Holloway was dead but lacked enough evidence to prosecute van der Sloot or two other former suspects, brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 24, and Satish Kalpoe, 21.

      Van der Sloot, who is Dutch, said there was no new evidence to justify his arrest last month.

      Holloway, 18, disappeared two years ago while visiting Aruba with about 100 classmates celebrating their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama.

      Holloway was last seen leaving a nightclub with van der Sloot and the Kalpoes.

      Don’t Miss
      Prosecutor: Holloway case in new phase
      The American teenager failed to show up for her flight home the following day, and her packed bags were found in her hotel room.

      Van der sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were arrested and released in the case in 2005.

      The three men were re-arrested November 21, with authorities citing new evidence against them. They already had been released when prosecutors announced their decision last week.

      All three have maintained their innocence. E-mail to a friend

      Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

      All About Joran van der Sloot • Natalee Holloway • Aruba

    5. Richard on December 24th, 2007 6:15 pm

      Perhaps there is some kind of correlation between the level of defense attorney employed and the level of those they represent.

      The van der Scums, Kalpoes, and all of their related attorneys deserve to be on Dante’s seventh level of Hell. And probably will be.

      Like rats deserting the proverbial sinking ship, just watch the “defense attorneys” desert their clients once they get what they deserve.

      Of course, they’ll still get their fees ….

      Sink, Aruba, sink. Give us all a very welcome Christmas present. You’ve already polluted the world; let the oceans wash the world clean of your filth.

    6. Susan on December 24th, 2007 8:56 pm

      # 3 – Allan, I agree. Even if these scumbag Aruban/Dutch officials had actually witnessed first hand what took place the night Natalee disappeared, they would never admit to what they saw. They’d do exactly what they’ve done all along, cover up for the van der Slut’s and destroy all evidence! It reminds of these thugs in big cities who refuse to snitch on anyone :-(



    7. on December 24th, 2007 9:03 pm

      Merry Christmas to Aruba and may the New Year bring ever declining American tourist rates.

      Thank you Team Persistence for all you are doing.

    8. 10061906 on December 24th, 2007 9:44 pm

      ‘Twas the night before Christmas’, when all through Aruba,
      Not a creature was stirring, not even big Baba;
      The pimps were hung out by C and C’s with care,
      In hopes that Female tourist soon would be there;
      The taxis were nested in the streets with care,
      kidnapping a tourist would be their dare.

      Forget it why screw up a good poem. Aruba is not worth it; you get the point.
      Come January so will Aruba and Holland.

    9. brie on December 24th, 2007 10:50 pm

      …Merry Christmas guys and gals!!!

    10. brie on December 24th, 2007 10:59 pm

      Scared Monkeys….a world of thanks for all that you have done and continue to do…Merry Christmas and God Bless You…!

    11. Bob on December 24th, 2007 11:24 pm

      And so the todays “spin” being tossed out for reaction is that many statements have been ‘misinterpreted’ or poorly translated. Really? They toss out some bullcrap….wait for weeks, months, and years to pass, then see if it’s challenged. When it is, they start wringing hands and moaning that the suspects were misinterpreted. Aw…If that’s the horsecrap spread to the locals on Sand Island, and they actually buy that,…..then it fully supports the wide belief that the Aruba locals are amongst the world’s most uneducated and unsophisticated peoples. The Aruba talking heads must revel in the knowlege that they are talking to chilren who swallow anything.

      No doubt Taco spotted this from the start, and has become the foundation of his defense. Small wonder the corrupt Aruban government aren’t ashamed of their inactions, they’re plainly f^^king stupid and don’t know it.

    12. waterboy (Jerry) on December 25th, 2007 12:07 am

      Santa marked the Sloots off his list—again.

      Seems they were not only naughty and bad, but just plain rotten to the core.


    13. Bob on December 25th, 2007 12:31 am

      On Christmas Eve – from the Persistence:

      “Update: Mon 24-Dec- 1452 hrs
      After reaching the dock at 0600 hrs, the Persistence rests as her crew perform some routine maintenance and make a supply run. There is no obvious outward adornment that it is Christmas Eve, save a single strand of colored lights hung around the galley ceiling. Inwardly, everyone is filled with the true Christmas spirit. Almost routine now, the gear is in the water scanning away. Inch by inch, mile by mile we are progressing nicely.”

      A single strand of colored lights? They shine as blinding lights for all the world to see and focus upon. They appear as a beacon of hope for all who believe in justice. Bless you folks, when I go to Mass in the morning, the first prayer will be for your success.

    14. 10061906 on December 25th, 2007 1:12 am

      I’m not sure if this will reach Kyle and the crew of the Persistence but I sent them a heartfelt thank you with a Merry Christmas.

      Someone may be reading the emails and forwarding the mail.

    15. Miss-Underestimated on December 25th, 2007 2:52 am

      Merry Christmas to Red, Mrs. Red, Klaas, Dana and Dugga, to all the posters seeking justice on the front page and in the forum. My thoughts are with Beth and Dave and their families, that Persistence will bring Natalee home soon.

      He is the reason for the season

    16. Ray on December 25th, 2007 4:02 am

      Defense attorneys lower than pond scum,I agree.

    17. Capslockwizard on December 25th, 2007 4:09 am

      Merry Christmas to all,

      I have finished my research and I do believe we are looking in the wrong places, becuase they want you to do so. Anyway I need the emial for Beth Twitty to send my new findings.

    18. Saorise on December 25th, 2007 4:24 am

      What about the casino video with Natalee and the pervert PVDS sitting at the same table?

      PVDS needs to be arrested.

      Boycott Aruba – One Nightmare Eiland.

      Boycott the Netherlands – One Nightmare Nazi Reime.


    19. 10061906 on December 25th, 2007 9:42 am

      Go to Michellesaysso she might be able to help you.

    20. resolution on December 25th, 2007 9:47 am

      Care to share your findings/research capslockwizard?

    21. Capslockwizard on December 25th, 2007 1:15 pm

      Resulution: Email Address to share

    22. Sharon Chicago on December 25th, 2007 1:21 pm

      Yeah, Jurine wanted to go to trial to prove himself innocent…. he figures with the Aruban authorities backing him and Greta backing him in the USA he could bet the rap and he is right…. until justice would be served by God’s hand.

      Jurine what did mamma Anita get you for Christmas, a new belt?

      Did pappa Paulus buy you new sneakers sporter?

      I think Santa Satin has a big sock of coal just waiting for you…He know how much you enjoy the hot climite…

    23. Ralph on December 25th, 2007 3:43 pm

      Joran’s Christmas wishlist:

      1) New belt
      2) GHB
      3) American female tourists (blond if possible)
      4) Incompetent police in Aruba
      5) New friend at Carlos & Charlie’s to spike drinks
      6) Friend with boat
      7) New crab trap rocks included a plus
      8) Knives and fishing nets
      9) condoms
      10)The Kalpoe boys for more fun times to murder American girls

    24. Capslockwizard on December 25th, 2007 6:38 pm


      I have finish my research and I think I have it all figured out what has happend on that day in question.

      Please send me your email and when you read this report all the stories will make sense
      SM: You can email me at or you can email Red at and we can forward your research to Beth…thanks (klaasend)

    25. Carpe Noctem on December 25th, 2007 10:36 pm

      Right on, # 7, 12, and 23

      I hope those friggin’ wankerz received

      stockings full of:

      Kingsman Charcoal Briquettes,

      boxes of mothballs,

      and year supply of odor eaters!!!


    26. resolution on December 25th, 2007 10:46 pm

      Sorry to say, but I’m reluctant to give out my email address to all. Any other way?

    27. Capslockwizard on December 25th, 2007 11:58 pm

      Resolution: i have sent it to Klaasend already. ask him for it.

    28. 10061906 on December 26th, 2007 12:05 am

      I title this post:
      On our way to our family Christmas dinner; there were about 50 of us attending;
      I spotted someone one the side of the road that apparently was in need of some cash. I can’t stand to see another human beg; especially today, so I pulled over and offered him some money, which he accepted. My grand daughter asked why I stopped so I told her. So on we went to our family dinner. About 30 minutes before we left my grand daughter grabbed my son’s hat. She then went up to all the adults and asked for some money. At first some were a little annoyed but she was (Persistent). Anyway after she had collected the money she brought it over to my wife. She was asked what my wife was to do with the money she collected. She told her grand mother this is for the man that grand pop stopped for, when we see him on the way home give this to him.
      I find more compassion and love in this child than all of Aruba.
      This from my grand daughter who is only five.
      There is still hope for the world.

    29. Ralph on December 26th, 2007 12:40 am

      I wonder what Joran’s parents think knowing they have raised a sociopathic monster with no conscience whatsoever. In the photo released of Joran leaving prison with Paulus, Joran has a big ‘ol s**t eating grin and old beer gut balding Paulus has a strained look on his face. He doesn’t exactly look like a dad who is accompanying an innocent child from jail; rather, he looks like he’s with someone who is guilty as hell.

      This is going to follow all of them for all the days of their sorry lives. We will make certain of that fact!

    30. Carpe Noctem on December 26th, 2007 3:32 am
    31. Ralph on December 26th, 2007 11:13 am

      Look carefully at this image. It reminds me of the face OJ Simpson made when he got off for murder and the look of his friend Kardashian who helped him get off.

      Look at Joran and his s**t eating grin and the strained, if not saddened exhausted look on his father, Paulus’ face.

      To me this image says it all……

      Joran is a sociopath with no concept of right or wrong and his father, the king of cover up, feeling some guilt, eh?

    32. Richard on December 26th, 2007 4:06 pm

      This comment is posted on the blog of the heroes on the Persistence today (December 26):

      “The sonar search is progressing smoothly and the end is within sight.”

      If Natalee is to be found in the waters off Aruba, pray God that these people find her.

    33. sirensong on December 26th, 2007 5:26 pm

      I agree Ralph. He thinks he is so smart. Can’t wait to see his face when he has to pay for his crime. Either now, or in the afterlife. Maybe he will grow up and have a child he loves taken from him. See if he has that sh*t eating grin then, when it’s played forward.

    34. 10061906 on December 26th, 2007 5:42 pm

      Let’s go back to those thrilling days of yesteryear……
      so Dolfi Richardson is handling Joyce Buckley’s
      episode. Was this the same Dolfi that helped screw up the Natalee investigation?
      Check the photo on the wall. Does this guy Croes reak of narsissim or what?

      Where Dolfi should check first? How about the tapes from the lobby. Now look at the tapes; if they have not been destroyed to see who brought this girl back to her parent’s room. She was returned real fast when the word
      B O Y C O T T was mentioned.
      Did she still have her debit card or did Dennis Jacobs confiscate that as evidence?

    35. Carpe Noctem on December 26th, 2007 9:52 pm

      The only person with TRUE POWER on that forsaken island, is the dude who sold Rudy Croes
      that funky toupee he wears so much!

      It set him back just six magical beans,
      a true bargain at that!

      I wonder if he’ll put that
      li’l scraggly a$$ thing
      up on E-Bay one day?

      I would consider buying it…

      if I needed something new to dust the furniture with. For the longest time, I thought the man
      was wearing an old, warped drink coaster on his head.


    36. super dave on December 27th, 2007 9:26 am

      yohan vandersnoot has eaten $hit all his life since he was born an @$$hole baby.

    37. gerard on December 27th, 2007 9:45 am

      For our friends in America who are just as concerned about the tragic dissapearance of Natalee Holloway.

      I just saw on Dutch television that the remains of what is looking to be a young woman have been found near an old goldmine. Rumor is, it might be Natalee. Only 2 miles from the Van der Sloots residence. Pure excitement is rushing over the Island.

      Just seen on RTL news, The Netherlands. Let´s hope the guilty will be found soon and get the chair !

    38. Carpe Noctem on December 27th, 2007 9:47 am


      Karin Jansen, you ignorant flea bag…

      by 6.5.2005?

      (security guards arrested)



      Why were the security guards NOT released
      in just 8 short days… after reading they
      read the Bible, and got in a fun game of
      futbol? (soccer) -j4n

      Are murders and sexual assaults not still

      considered violent crimes in Aruba?

      What’s that? NO EVIDENCE Natalee died of

      a violent crime against her? Hans, was Karin

      J. sippin’ on the gin & juice???



      -Ted Knight

    39. minnesota dad on December 27th, 2007 10:25 am

      Anyone know if there is any truth to #37? Or, is Aruba just playing another game….found a body….no we didn’t….

      Wouldn’t that be convenient that the body is found just days after Mos declares the predators no longer suspects? Be tough to unpeel the layer of the onion that Mos conveniently put on.

      I am not going to get as excited as the poster in #37. Aruba has played too many shell games over the last two+ years to be believable about anything.


    40. 10061906 on December 27th, 2007 10:43 am

      Klaasend: I can’t find anything.
      Is this verified yet?
      SM: I don’t know, I just woke up myself. I’ll see if I can find anything on it (klaasend)

    41. Richard on December 27th, 2007 11:02 am

      I searched Yahoo News and found nothing on it.

      I suspect a troll is at work here, or possibly an unfounded rumor.

      Or perhaps yet another victim?

    42. Libby on December 27th, 2007 12:01 pm

      I haven’t heard anything about #37 either. Like Richard and MD said…probably another troll or Aruba playing games….again.

      I think it is funny that the lawyers for Joran, Paulus and the K brothers all want to know if authorities are on the boat. They are afraid the crew may plant evidence. Uh hello…the crew is nothing like you low life pieces of crap!!!! They simply want to bring Natalee home.

      Ironic how the low life pieces of crap are worried about the planting of evidence when they did everything possible to destroy all the evidence…even tried to prosecute innocent people! What a joke!

      All we want is to bring Natalee home and for justice to be served on the true criminals. The later will never happen though. Aruba will never allow those low lives to be prosecuted / imprisoned.

      At this point, I would just be happy if Natalee could go home. Joran, Paulus, the K brothers and all others involved will get what is coming to them some day…especially in the end.

    43. Nut44x4 on December 27th, 2007 6:50 pm

      It is garbage. Koen has been trolling the site today…probably his idea of ‘funny’.

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