Joran Van der Sloot Says He Knows Where the Body of Natalee Holloway is Located
Is there an echo? How many times is Joran Van der Sloot going to cry wolf?
After five years and so many countless lies from the lips of Joran Van der Sloot, he once again claims that he knows where Natalee Holloway’s body is located.Natalee Holloway, the then Alabama teenager who went missing in Aruba in May 2005, was last reported seen withJoran Van der Sloot after leaving Carlos N’ Charlie’s has never been seen or heard from since. Joran Van der Sloot was arrested multiple times in the Holloway case; however, Aruba never prosecuted the predator.
Joran Van der Sloot/Natalee Holloway 2005
Joran Van der Sloot after being arrested and confessed in connection with the murder of 21 year old StephanyFlores in Peru, a murder that took place five years to the date of the disappearance and death of Natalee Holloway in Aruba now says he wants to come clean and states he knows where Natalee’s body is. We have no doubt he knows were Natalee Holloway’s body is, after all he most likely helped put it there … the question is whether he will tell the truth as to the location.
Joran van der Sloot told investigators that he knows the location of Natalee Holloway’s body and the circumstances surrounding her death, but would explain everything to Aruban police, a Peruvian police official said. Last week U.S. authorities filed charges against Van der Sloot for reportedly extorting money from Holloway’s mother.
Miguel Canlla, head of the homicide division of the Peruvian national police investigative unit, said Thursday that Aruban police were not currently in Peru, and he did not know whether the Aruban and Peruvian investigators had been in contact.
2010: Holloway, Van der Sloot, Flores … the evolution of a murderer
Though Van der Sloot has never been charged with Holloway’s disappearance in 2005, last week, U.S. authorities filed charges against him for reportedly extorting money from Holloway’s mother in return for informing the location of Holloway’s body and the circumstances surrounding her death.
Isn’t the extortion case filed against him in Alabama yet another example of Joran Van der Sloot claiming the he would show where Natalee Holloway was located after all these years and what happened to her, only for it to be nothing more than another hateful lie? In the extortion case he wanted $225,000, in this situation he most likely wants a reduction in time on the murder charge or a chance to spend his prison time somewhere else but in Peru. However, just because Van der Sloot said he knew where Holloway was did not mean that he was willing to provide the infiormation.
Joran van der Sloot told investigators during an interrogation that he knows the location of Natalee Holloway’s body, but he would neither identify the location nor say what happened to her the night of her disappearance, a Peruvian police official told CNN.
"In the interrogation done to the Dutch citizen, he says he knew the location of the corpse of the American citizen, but that he was going to explain everything to Arubanpolice," said Miguel Canlla, head of the homicide division of the Peruvian national police investigative unit, on Thursday.
So is Joran Van der Sloot lying again? From On the Record with Greta Van Susteren comes the discussion that Joran Van der Sloot has made a cottage industry about lying with regards to his invollvementin the Natalee Holloway case. Is the "Sporter" now being forced to come clean or is it more lies? It is hard to believe that a narcisist and psociopath would ever tell the truth ot admit involvement.
DAN COLLYNS, GLOBAL RADIO NETWORK: That’s right, Greta. I just spoke to head of the police criminal investigations unit. He told me Joran van der Sloot told Peruvian police during his interrogation he knows where the body of Natalee Holloway is and he’s prepared to help them find it and the Aruban authorities.
And the general gave the information. He said the Peruvian police are not helping the Aruban authorities. The Peruvian police have been tied up with their investigation into the death of 21-year-old Stephany Flores.
VAN SUSTEREN: What does he want in exchange for information about where the body of Natalee Holloway is? Because he seems to be trying to sell that information every place he can, whenever he can.
COLLYNS: It is true, yes. We know that Joran van der Sloot has a reputation, notonly for lying but trying to manipulate and known for being a calculating person. The general didn’t go into details. I think this is something which just a piece of information they’ve gleaned during the course of the interrogation which focused on the evidence of the murder, the Peruvian murder investigation.
He hasn’t gone into further details on that, but hopefully we’ll be hearing more about that and they will get in touch with the Aruban authorities and some type of cooperation will take place.
Posted June 11, 2010 by Scared Monkeys
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Hey Van der Straaten, are you packing your bags yet? How about Satish and Deepak, and their pals who were accessories to the CORRUPTION, CRIMINAL ACTS INFLICTED UPON AN INNOCENT AMERICAN TOURIST, HEAVY BATTERY, and the PRE-MEDITATIVE CRIMINAL MALFEASANCE? How’s GUIDO doing these days, and his pal Van Cromvoirt? How’s Steve, and all your phone-borrowing pals? How about your friends who ran your cars through THE BODY SHOP? Your pals at the INTERNET CAFE? The filthy network of depraved indifference is about to crumble around all of your lying, deceitful, corrupt monsters. Hey Deepak: YOU HIT THE JACKPOT! Here it comes! THE MIDNIGHT PRISON-EXPRESS!!! You and Van der Straaten can hold midnight meetings by the CASTRO CASTRO puddles in the ground, just like in the old days. And you know what’s going to be one of the best parts, Deepak? One of the best parts will be HEARING YOUR NAME GETTING CALLED – (you know, the way the unconscionable had Natalee’s name called at the Aruban concerts, just so they could get a good laugh about a viciously victimized, murdered little girl – not being able to come up to the stage)…well, we’re all looking forward to HEARING YOUR NAME CALLED, DEEPAK – YOU AND JORAN, AND SATISH – and ALL YOUR BUDDIES IN DEPRAVITY…. WE ARE GOING TO HEAR YOUR NAMES CALLED FOR ROLL CALL… EVERY SINGLE DAY, FOR THE REST OF YOUR DEPRAVED, INDIFFERENT, CORRUPT, ACCESSORIES TO MURDER – LIVES.
If Stephany had met him prior to that night, she may have already researched his name on the internet. Maybe she knew what he was about and was trying to find incriminating evidence on his laptop.
The degree of anger he exhibited in her death seems, even for him, more extreme in that short period of time they were in the room than if he simply caught her on his laptop. Maybe she manipulated him into leaving the room so she could surf that laptop. The manipulator being manipulated.
I’m sure there have been many people over these last 5 years he encountered that gave him a wide berth due to Scared Monkeys. He doesn’t seem the type to ever get used to rejection.
I do believe she was drugged.
Call me suspicious but I’ll not hold my breath until Joran gives the details of the first murder.
#3, I would not either. I think this SOB is a vindictive POS who gets off on causing pain the Natalee’s family by playing the “roller-coaster” game with them.
This is his form of control and way of reliving his crime.
He will never tell about Natalee unless it is of great benefit to him. Its making me sick how the MSM is reporting this as big news every half hour. This is just the kind of attention he wants. But he will hold his “card” about information on Natalee and only play it (for real) when he has no alternative.
He is just trying to get his ass out of Peru and into Aruba.
I don’t think its gonna work. I think most people already know that Natalee was put in the ocean.
He is about one of the most unhuman devious animals I have unfortunatly ever seen.
Now I hear talk of a nine year plea deal….how can something like this even be put on the table….no deals 35 years in a Peruvian jail…no need for deals even without a confession the have him.
I read on CNN the boy is only willing to speak to Aruban LE in regards to location of Natlee’s remains. Well, good! Fly them to Peru and the boy can blab all day long.
Also read he IS to be charged with obstruction of justice AS are the taxi drivers who took him out of the area. Wow. they admit they knew who he was and also are in trouble? Peru is serious. Too bad the boy isn’t…but he will be once he hear the Peruvian cell door slam behind him….wannt bet?
Can’t wait to hear the “price” Joran wants to extract. Like the “will only tell Aruban Police” – I suppose the condition is that he has to be flown to Aruba so he can tell them.
Trust me – Joran will NOT tell the truth without extracting a heavy price from someone and even then who can trust what he says?
Dear SM…I think maybe my posts are going to spam too? Not sure why. but I just posted and no see :>(
I have heard that the prisons are run by the inmates and those with money can buy drugs, sex, protection etc. Most likely Mama sloot is going to finance his protection. So I am guessing that some of his housemates can be “bought” to provide misery until the jail bird sings the truth about Natalee. I would be happy to make a donation to that fund.
Did he not say that his father helped him dispose of the body? Oh, shat…..who else is he gonna throw under the bus. Van der Straaten, better watch his arse!
Murderer just tries to get to Aruba (dutch) luxury prison instead of the Peru prison. No exchange treaty!. Body Nathaly for a better pace ?? So bad!
agree with you Red. but let’s give hope a chance this time. he’s in a whole different ballgame now. Peru is NOT going to let him go. i watched the interview with John Quijones and the Col. of the Peruvian Police this a.m. and the Colonel said, he will be charged, tried and sentenced for the death AND aggravated robbery of Stephany. I understand that in Peru it takes a conviction of robbery along with the murder for a life sentence. Let’s hope the worthless POS does indeed bring closure for the Holloway family.
he is up to his old games, wont work, keep him in peru, no soup for you.
Someone should set up a Pay-Pal for that, like the defense fund only for “offense”.
Paulus. “I would do anything to protect my son”.
I guess selling your soul was part of the bargin.
How does it feel to be screwed by your own son?
Oh I forgot Paulus; you can’t answer that; you’re dead.
Your son is next; probably by big Bubba in a Peruvian Prison.
Anita is one big POS also; let’s not forget her.
I wonder about Val and Butch; they share the same genes.
Where is Bluesky and Amsterdam Law now?
Still think Joran is innocent?
Pat in Alabama:
” he will hold his “card” about information on Natalee and only play it (for real) when he has no alternative.”
You are so right- He won’t play the Natalee Info card unless it is to his benefit and we all know it never will be.
The peruvian officals are under no obligation to release him until he is sentenced and serves time in Peru for Stephany’s murder.
Of course Mommy Sloot will give it her all to make sure he is protected in peruvian prison and considering the situation the peruvian officals may oblige due to the fact that the eyes of the world are on them.
Our best hopes are they don’t protect him in prison and the other prisoners bend him over and make him tell.
or… He serves his time in Peru, the Netherlands reopen the case and charge him for Natalee’s murder.
We need the Neatherlands to reopen the case!!!
If neither of these things happen we can have him shipped to the US on the extortion charges but we all know that prison in the US is lax in comparison to most countries (our prisoner have rights) and our laws do not allow interrogation to the extreams that it would take to make him tell the truth.
If Paulus VDS acted so swiftly the night Natalee was murdered, he has to have done things like this in the past as well. He behaved like a pro, without even breaking a sweat. Had any normal person done that, you’d hear their knees banging together a mile away. They should be looking into Paulus too, Joran didnt learn this master manipulation on his own at such a young age. He had to have been raised around it.
So transparent, this murderous monster. He wants out of Peru so bad, he’ll say anything. He figures he’s a goner if he has to stay in Peru. I pray to God he has to stay. He’s a lying cowardly bully. So typical of a bully – he can dish it out, but not take it. Waaa waaa waaaa! Cry me a river. He already told his extortion victims she was in the foundation of a house that wasn’t even built when Natalie disappeared. If he gets back to Aruba, the smirk will return to his face.
The best posibility of really finding out what happened to Natalee would be the boy bragging to another inmate after he has been sitting in prison for a while. He wont be the big man there and he will be looking for ways to make himself look big to his fellow prisoners.
There is some truth in Joran’s every lie. It’s possible Natalee is buried on property under concrete – at his OWN HOUSE. If I remember correctly, his father would not let the police search around his home. And concrete was poured down there. Why doesn’t his mother leave Aruba being she doesn’t have hubby or any family there – maybe that’s the reason – protecting the sacred ground she lives on.
The only way LE of any county is going to get the truth out of Joran is to lock him up in solitary with chains on his feet and arms for a month.
Feed him bread and water twice a day and shrink his body weight down to about 125 lbs.
Then offer him better food in exchange for what happened to Natalee. If he lies, then back to the cell for another month all chained up and even less food. If he gets enough harsh treatment(something he’s never had) it might make him tell the truth. A little bit of the truth is is in all his statements. However, identifying the truth vs the lies is a big problem.
Joran baby boo! Kiss Aruba goodbye If you know where Natalee is, then you should have talked long ago! It’s not your fault that some idiots gave you $25,000.00 to murder again, but hope you enjoyed it. Looks like your gambling days and mounting gambling debts will end soon! Enjoy your one room holding in protective custody and 3 squares, while you can because soon, that’s all going to change! Man up “big boy”! Tighten up those sphincters your “Peruvian Cellies” are going to ride you hard!!!!
When your own former Defense Attorney says Joran is lying and a complete cold-blooded psychopath, you got big problems, Bro.
Joran VDS will continue to spin lie after lie after lie after lie. The closest ANYONE ever got to the truth about Natalee Holloway was Peter De Vries and Patrick Van Der Eem. Peter also boxed Joran in a corner with his lies and he got a glass of wine thrown in his face for it on Dutch TV.
There are only 2 possible scenarios, with the first most likely:
1. Natalee was dumped out at Sea as Joran finally confessed on hidden camera
2. Natalee was buried somewhere in Aruba
Joran will lie again, then say it was yet another hoax. My heart still goes out to Beth Holloway who know is ripped apart again, believing if she had not wired the money to Joran to help facilitate the sting and hopefully FINALLY GET THE TRUTH, that perhaps Stephany would still be alive.
It was not Beth’s Holloways fault. Americans & South Americans are standing by her side. All the Holloways have ever wanted for 5 years is to find their beloved Daughter. Cannot even look at the tapes of Beth w/Peter DeVries, or Dave Holloway digging in that landfill with Time Miller & Red. It is unbearable to see any parent go through the hell this family has endured. =(
Thoughts, prayers and letters to our Senators are on the way! WE LOVE YOU BETH & DAVE! STAY STRONG! You have made a difference in the way Americans view safe International Travel with your awareness and activisim. Please know that Natalee Holloway and your family has had an impact and changed the lives of many. Please know that! I know it has changed mine, personally.
********* Justice for Natalee Ann Holloway ******
**** Justice for Stephany Flores Ramirez *****
Joran Van Der Sloot—no one can help this turd ball now. The delicious little Sporter will be pushing up daisies if/when he is ever released from Prison. There is no way out for him. Justice will finally be served. He can attempt to bribe Peruvian Officials all he wants, GAME OVER!
Aruba———-WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO AGAIN NOW THAT YOU HAVE LET THIS CRIMINAL DEVIANT GO YET A FOURTH TIME !!!!!! THE BLOOD OF BOTH NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND STEPHANY FLORES MARTINEZ IS ON YOUR HANDS!!!!!!!!!!!
**** BOYCOTT ARUBA TILL HELL FREEZES OVER AND PIGS FLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **********
JORAN VAN DER SLOOT = DeAD MaN WaLkINg
SM: The reason your posts are going to the spam folder is because of all the special characters you are using (klaasend)
Peru judge orders Van der Sloot held for murder
Now tell us where you and Pauls & jan Van der Straaten put Natalee because when Joran talks and they find Natalee jan Van der Straaten and the poop brothers are going down too. hahhahah
Spam Monster is hungry again….poor Klaas. Hate to ask you to check again, but could you?
((((((((( Big Thanks ))))))))))))))))
My sympathies once again to the Holloway (and Flores) families. All the Holloways have left is the hope that Natalee’s remains can be recovered and buried at home in the U.S., but perhaps even the Holloways would prefer him having 35 years in a Peruvian prison for killing at least two young women that we know about, as having some reduced term in a Dutch prison for Joran.
I truly do hope that this time he finally comes clean about Natalee`s. I doubt he would be honest about the movite he had to kill her, but I am sure Beth would have closure to know where her daugther is. I can only imagine the pain and the hell this poor woman has experienced and it really does make me sick. To think that this monster killed her daughter and yet again he was this evil to not even give her the peace to buried Natalee, all this time giving Beth false hopes, and on top of it cashing in for lies? seriously, to call him a sociopath is an insult to the worst of them! This man is SATAN itself!…
I am not sure if he wants to get a deal of the reamins of Natalee , but that would be too much for Beth, to actually agree to not acuse him to finally have her dauther remains!
I would give my entired salary if there is a fund to have inmates torture Joran for the rest of his life!
the one question that still intrigues me, is why didnt he just flew back to Aruba? why did he go to Chile instead?
he needs to give the location of Natalee, all names involved, and every detail. and those who fled aruba need to be brought back and made to
testify before any deal is made.
then, he needs the shit kicked out of him.
One is drawn to remember Mr. Skeeters, and men like Mr. Dietl whose work to nail this monster speaks volumes about what real men, ethical, moral, decent men WITH A CONSCIENCE – look like.
And then there’s Joran.
Joran would like a first class airline seat, with steak served on his triumphant return to his hell hole of corruption, so he can talk to his corrupt pals in ALE who aided him in obstsructing justice, and were accessories to the brutal, vicious heinous murder of Natalee Holloway and subsequent criminal acts inflicted upon this poor child and her beautiful family. Joran would like a nice air-conditioned Aruban hotel room, with a view of the ocean, so he can “lead” one of his ALE corrupt pals to the “location” of Natalee’s desecrated, brutally victimized body,- Natalee – who was subjected to the traditional “buyring and re-burying” Aruban rituatls at the hands of corrupt ALE, that they like to inflict under the direction of their “no corpse, no case” pals, the burying and re-burying rituals they inflicted upon Natalee’s desecrated body, as told by Chief G. Dompig, back in 2006. And of course, the new LEADER of MALFEASANCE trained by the MASTER OF MALFEASANCE, HIMSELF, who engaged in acts of depraved collusion and obstructions of justice with their depraved corrupt police and law-enforcement pals- … they all see these special needs for JORAN as perfectly reasonable, inspite of Natalee being subjected to the burying and re-burying executed by these unconscionable monsters.
And in exchange for his posh treatment, the new leader of manipulation and malfeasance, wants to go back to Aruba in person, so he can re-defecate all over again on every man, woman, or victim’s family who fought for the preservation of justice and integrity in upholding HUMAN RIGHTS, and THE LAW. Wouldn’t it be something, for all the law enforcement officials who died in the line of duty in upholding justice and protection of society, and all those remarkable, courageous agents and officers who worked this case – to forge a piece of their badges together to create a MIRROR for Natalee’s family: to forever remind them of what HONOR, COURAGE, COMPASSION and INTEGRITY TO THE LAW LOOKS LIKE, to remind them of their courageous spirit in standing up for Natalee’s right to justice and her right for HER VOICE to be heard, HER RIGHT TO COME HOME, a reminder – of what Beth, Dave and HONORABLE MEN AND WOMEN can accomplish together, when EVIL is conquered by GOODNESS in men and women who wear honor, ethics, integrity,and compassion in their hearts, who refuse to let the spirit and voice of brutalized, victimized child be crushed by evil monsters.
And wouldn’t it also be wonderful if those same agents and officers could forge a piece of their badges together to create a nice mirror for JORAN, DEEPAK, SATISH and ALL THEIR CORRUPT LAW-ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS TO STARE INTO, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THEIR CORRUPT LIVES IN A PRISON CELL WHERE CO-CONSPIRATORS CAN HAVE ALL THE MIDNIGHT EXPRESS PUDDLE-SIDE MEETINGS THEY LIKE TO HAVE – where the SHIELDS of the HONORABLE can STARE BACK and SHINE BACK AT THEM in their depravity from a prison cell for the remainder of their corrupt, deceitful, inhumane and reprehensible lives.
Do we want to find Natalee’s remains.
Just ask Jan van der Straaten and Yolanda Wever.
I’m sure they know but are they willing to tell?
I went to Aruba and found the people there to be really laid back, helpful and honest.
Only the cab driver gave me lip when I told him to take me were I rented a car.
The gas station attendent gave me back money when I over paid based on the difference between the dollar and the florin.
In trying to get to the Lourdes Grotto; the directions were right on the money.
We were lost a few times and the Arubans gave us exact directions.
All in All I believe it is the father(s) of another prominent Dutch official(s) whose off spring(s) are involved and continue this cover up.
A Texas Grandfather ,
A months? Can’t we leave him there like that a lot longer than that just for the fun of it?
The boy may or may not ever tell what happened to Natalee. Only way is if he does so by placing blame for the cover up on others in hopes for a lighter sentence.
Here’s how it would go in allegory:
>> Well, she fell and hit her head. I panicked and went to daddy. He said, “Have no fear my boy. I have dirty friends in high places. Go to sleep and make sure to use the pillow mommy normally uses when she tucks you in. Oh, and keep your mouth shut.”
So the boy tells his daddy, “shouldn’t we do the right thing? The girl’s parents may wonder where she went?”
Daddy answers, “No son..I will be sure the officials make it go away..you will never be held responsible. But we have a couple security guards that will be….and if not you have Deepak and Shiteesh…whatever his name is. We could certainly blame them. Hey! Call and tell them to wash their car…right now.”
Boy…”but daddy why? it’s not that dirty.”
Pops…”alibi son…they are cleaning away evidence and don’t forget it.”
So my friends. If we ever actually get the truth from boy, it will be only by casting any/all blame for the cover up on dead pappy and his pappy’s cronies. Not to mention he’ll probably add his good friends “encouraged” him to do what his daddy said and convinced him to be silent. Sound about right? Sadly I think so.
Yeah, I bet he knows where her body is. I know where his body is going to be soon, once he gets the full initiation into a Peruvian prison.
Joran says he knows where Natalee’s body is located and that he will only spill the beans to Aruban authorities.
He’s a clever (desperate!) little psychopath… it’s a last-ditch effort to get put into Aruban custody, which he thinks will save him from this Peru business. No way Peru is letting him out of their hands… Aruban authorities can go down to Peru and entertain this latest lie about Natalee. Joran will be easy to find for the next decade or three, so they’ll know right where to go to get his Natalee “confession”.
Ok, Thanks, Klaas.
You are da bomb. =)
OK, Klaas- Thanks so much.
My guess will be unpopular here, but I suspect that Joran and his father (perhaps Mother) know where the body is.
Since the beginning I figured she was out at sea and could not be recovered. However, if he is saying that he can lead someone to her, then she must be on land. Didn’t see that coming.
If she is on land, then extremely few people know where. If too many people know, then at least one of them would have panic in the years since Joran went totally nuts and would have moved it again.
the kalpoes know tooo werent they there present with paulus when the missing crab cage went missing and he coached them all to not say anything.?
Urine has no upside in telling the truth about where Natalee is. Whatever years of his sorry life remains upon release from Peruvian prison, they would be spent in an Aruban prison.
That’s of course if Aruba finally does the right thing in this case. That’s a big if, because they hate the Holloways for all the negative publicity brought upon their “shitty little island”.
#41 O’Bomber, Aruba will NEVER do the right thing. Remember 5 years ago when Fox News went around the island speaking to the residents for their input on Natalee’s disappearance? Not one person expressed remorse. The only thing they all bitched about was there were no tourist dollars coming in and how all the attention to finding Natalee had ruined their lives. You can best be sure that this has happened plenty on those islands. I was a victim of a pig like Urine in Nassau Bahamas. We were on a cruise ship and all went to a night club there. One of the islanders followed me out of the club and knocked me into the bushes. He didnt count on me being an avid kick boxer – and kick box him I did – right in his bollocks. He’s probably still massaging himself. No Americans are safe on those Caribbean islands. Just go to any hotel in Jamaica. You’ll find a sign next to your bed to not go out to the town at night, and if you have to go anywhere do not take any taxis unless the hotel concierge has ordered the taxi or “you will be taken into the hills and robbed” God Bless America! We need to stop patronizing these islands.
Yes, # 35.
It will be amazing how jarred Joran’s memory and ability for recall will be – even after one day at Castro Castro.
Please, can someone hire a plane to write CASTRO CASTRO all over the skies of Aruba, Curacao, and Suriname?
Joran van der Sloot is a typical sociopath like Lori Drew, Diane Downs, Ted Bundy, Eric Harris, Charles Manson, Adolf Hitler, and Joseph Stalin.
Yes Brenda, a month chained hand and foot with no one to talk to might make him talk a little bit.
Sociopaths invent lies on a daily basis. The trick is to shoot down every lie that he tells,but keep transcripts of what he says and try to piece together the real truth.
He now is claiming that he pushed her down and she hit her head on a rock and died. That is just another one of his lies. Based on the description of her behavior in previous statements,she was in no condition to do anything to him. She may have tried to stop him and he picked up a rock and hit her with it.
They need to let Tim Miller onto the Vander Sloot property in Aruba and use ground penetrating radar to look for a body. Also look in the well on the property.
His mother is in Peru. I think that LE ought to sit her down and question her in depth about what she knows.
The police in Peru have labled him a serial killer. Have they found information that leads them to believe there may be other young women missing and possibily murdered by Joran?
He’s said in now 3 taped interviews his dad buried the body. What’s next? She was still alive and his dad AND his brothers (didn’t they testify they were also home that night) help, as well, and one of them or dad accidentally killed her or whatever? I wouldn’t put it past him to say they buried it but mom and the siblings dug her up and buried her again at sea – his stories get stranger and stranger. What’s really confounding is mom and bros protect him even when he’s still saying it was daddy’s fault.
If I had a comatose or dead boy, I wouldn’t call the Kalpo brothers, I’d call my dad. But since the Kalpos may have dropped him off at the eventual scene of the crime, I can see Paul paying them off, as Joran says he did. He says daddy paid off govt. officials as well.
I think he wants Aruban officals to take his statement cuz he wants to threaten them – I will tell if you don’t get me out of here.
Question is: Will that interview be taped? And will the new authorities in Aruba investigate and/or charge the ones he names?
Some Aruban citizens blamed the US media and Beth for the downturn in tourism; will they now turn on the Peruvians, as well? Or will they do the right thing and ask the govt to to “their thing” finally? Joran is now locked up, but what about others who he named, along with Daddy. They still live there. So are any tourists safe, yet?
I have a theory that none of you have even mentioned. If Joran had killed Natalee, his Mother and his Father would have known about it, so now that his Father has died, Joran’s Mother would know that her husband can not stop her from talking and Joran can not stop her before she dies, so she would tell the truth, to prevent herself from going to Hell like her husband has. She will not actually talk, because Natalee is not dead, so nobody will go to Hell and that is why she will never talk. So how do you get the truth out of Joran, you promise to drop the Extortion Charges, if he tells the truth, about where Natalee is. That way he will think, he can get out of prison in 35 years, when he is in his late 50′s and go on with his life. The problem is, if he goes to trial for murder and robbery, he will be sentenced to his lifetime in prison, without early release and then they lose the opportunity to get him to tell the truth. They need to offer to drop the Extortion Charges right now, while he still believes he might only be sentenced to 35 years and then I believe he will tell the truth about Natalee. This is why it was so easy to make up stories about how he killed Natalee, because he knew that could never be proved, because it never happened.
SM: So do you think he didn’t kill Stephany too? Unfortunately, logic and evidence point towards Joran being a sociopath who killed Stephany and Natalee and very possibly more (klaasend)
I want you to understand that I have some proof about my theory, but that is a hard thing to explain to you. I am a Pendulum Dowser and I have been digging a hole for five years now, where my Dowsing told me, some gold bars where buried, so I have dug down 32 feet, through what appears to be solid rock, by drilling and blasting, but now that I am 10 feet underwater, I ran into a wall, that is obviously man made, so the Spaniards made it look man made to fool me, into thinking there was a room behind it, but there was not. After I recover the gold bars, I intend to travel to Aruba, on my personal Super Sonic Jet Airplane and then I will locate Natalee Holoway alive or dead. I tried to get that News Woman to believe in what I do, but she did not have any faith in me. I even followed a dead girls body down the highway, to the field where it was found, but they did not believe that either. I may have solved many crimes, but no one has ever thanked me, so there is no way to count them.
Wally – you are a LOON! Anybody else believe this nutjob lives in Bizzaro World or in the Twilight Zone…do do do do do…do do do do do…
You have zero proof. Your theory is WACK!
You have zero proof or FACTs to back your lame theory.
I guess Elvis is alive too? Tupac? Mr. Rodgers?
This site is supposed to be about Joran Vandersloth, but you decide to say bad things about Wally, because you do not agree with me.
Suppose you were Joran and suppose you killed Natalee, would you continue to talk about her death for 5 years. Now suppose you actually did not kill Natalee, then you would be safe talking about her death, because she would not be dead and none of your stories could ever be proven with a body, because there would not be one.
See I am not crazy, I am logical and I also can see the forest for the trees, so I will not just agree with your theories, just because you all believe in them.
I have been doing this for years, trying to help the FBI, the news and the victums, but it is a difficult thing to do.
I was talking to the FBI every day, when Jessica Lundsford was missing in Homosasa Florida. I told them she was alive with a man one day, with a woman one day, with a young boy one day and alone with a dog one day. I then called them one day and said she was alone, was outside, was not starving, but was having trouble breathing. I told them they needed to get to her quickly, so I told them to get a large Plumb Bob and a 12 inch long piece of heavy string and I would walk them to her. The FBI was like you, they did not believe me and their comment to me was, we are not going to get a Spongue Bob and that their way was much better than my way. I could not tell that Jessica was buried in the ground, but she was only a hundred feet from her own home, when she stopped breathing and I could tell that. I told the FBI, that I could not tell why she could not get away, because she was outside and she was alone, but I thought possibly she was locked in a refrigerator.
My daughter that lives in Clearwater Florida went to Homosasa Florida with her daughter and they had a Plumb Bob and a string, but they did not have a Cell Phone, so I could not instruct them on what to do, so it did not work for them.
If I could have talked to Jessica’s Father, I could have walked him to his daughter.
I have a 22 year old daughter and a 24 year old son and if we lose something they both tell me to get my Plumb Bob.
If my daughter ever was missing, she would be watching the door in front of herself, because she knows I would be coming through there shortly.
I am a female U.S. citizen & I used to live in Panama City. The prisons in Panama are horrendous. For example, if you do not have someone on the outside to bring your food-you starve. If Joran experience in South America is anything remotely like the experience of those prisonsers in Central America he will for certain wish himself dead next week.
The families of those the Dutch-brat have murdered are devastated–I feel most bad for them–I hope they can somehow find Peace.
So Sick and Sad.
I think Joran along with the Kalpoe brothers dumped Natalee’s body somewhere along the North cost road that runs out to the natural bridge tourist site. Probably dumped her at one of the high cliffs or on a point, in the area of Boca Mahos. The ocean is deep on that side of the island, the currents run East to West, the wind and surf is heavy. The reason to dump her there is the road is secluded and close to Joran’s and the KP brother’s homes. The body probably went straight out to sea and no remnants will ever be found.
In Joran’s taped Land-Rover confession (99% lies) he says the he called up his good buddy Daury who conveniently showed up in the middle of the night and boats the american teenagers body way out (20 or 30 miles) South of the island. All by himself with Joran going back home. BS!, TOTAL BS!. In the history of the world, there has never been THAT good of a “good buddy”. Can you imagine if you received a phone call like that from a friend, pretty big favor to ask I would say.
As far as the Kalpoe Brothers complicity in the crime, Heck Yes!. Why have none of the KP Brothers ratted out JVDS? Because Joran has major dirt on them. I speculate the three of them have done previous drug/rapes of tourists and got away with it at least one or more times. The girls probably survived, didn’t remember much of it, and went home alive not reporting it. That is the only way KP bros would keep their mouth shut.
As far as burying the body on the island, total BS. Joran has probably never had a job in his life, and wouldn’t know how to dig a hole with a shovel if he had to. It is no easy task burying a body deep enough not to be found. You would need a hole AT LEAST 3 feet deep, and that would take about 4 hours to dig. Digging in sand is not any easier, probably worse. Joran’s soft hands would have been blistered in the process.
I don’t think Paulus VDS had any major involvement in the body dumping. I just can’t believe an attorney could get involved in that big of a conspiracy.
This started out as a drug/rape between the arrogant spoiled JVDS and the KP brothers. It went sour when Natalee convulsed and died. They needed an easy way to get rid of the body, and the high cliffs on the North side worked without the body washing back up to shore. They were just lucky the currents carried the body off and it didn’t wash up on shore.