Caylee Anthony Found: Plastic Bag, Skeletal Remains, Duct Tape, Items of Interest, Anthony Home Searched, Part 1

 

Breaking Down the Evidence in the Caylee Anthony case.

What really happened to Caylee Anthony and should the death penalty be brought back on the table by the prosecution against tot mom Casey Anthony? We will break down the evidence and the many facets of this case in several part posts over the next couple of Caylee_ChildBodyFounddays. The evidence does not lie. It is not speculating, it is connecting the dots,

The defense team for Casey Anthony never thought they would have to defend against a physical body. Honestly, the prosecution probably thought the same. How does the new discovery of the remains change the game, especially the presence of duct tape? The duct tape may not only eventually be the key to determining who did this crime but also motive as well and the loss of any chance of an eventual insanity plea.

There have been so many theories by pundits, yet most of them fail to understand the evidence at hand. Many have continually changed their theories as news became available or to suit their agenda. However, most have been mere speculation and failed to take many facts and evidence into account. They have not understood the extent of the previous searches, the environmental conditions of the time, the presence of internet searches on the Anthony computer, the  presence of chloroform in the car, human decomposition in the trunk, the delay of Caylee’s reported missing, Casey’s lies from the outset and the duct tape. Let’s connect the dots in the sad and tragic case of Caylee Anthony.

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The news broke Thursday morning that a child’s remains were found in a black garbage bag in Orlando, FL near the home of Cindy and George Anthony. At 9:32 am a utility worker came across a black plastic bag, poked at it and to his surprise and horror a child’s skull fell out of the bag. He then called 911 and described what he found  and what many people a day before thought was impossible, now became a reality … the body of missing Caylee Anthony was most likely found.

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The news of the discovery of a child’s body found less than 1/2 mile from the home of Caylee Anthony’s grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony, and 6/10th of a mile from the home of Lee Anthony set off a flurry of action as Orange County law enforcement, FBI and news stations ascended upon the location of Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Dr. near the Hidden Oaks Elementary School The news set off a chain reaction of events as public interest grew about the little missing girl, Caylee Anthony, who had captured the hearts of so many.

Why is the proximity of the finding of the Caylee’s body so important? Casey Anthony would have been familiar with her surrounding to have left the bad there at night as well as profiling tells us that women leave murdered children within a 5 mile radius of their home. Could this be the reason why Casey Anthony references in a jail house telephone call  (toward end a call) on July 25, 2008 at 2 pm with her mother that she felt that Casey was close and she’s not far? Sociopaths have a tenancy to tell bits and pieces of the truth in their never ending game of lies as they strive for attention and attempt to make everyone around them a pawn in their sick game.

I told Lee look locally. Look locally especially. Check places that we are familiar with, that we know.

She’s not far. I know in my heart she is not far. I can feel it.

In the end Caylee Anthony’s remains were located 3/10th of a mile away from Cindy and George Anthony’s home. In a sociopath’s world, Casey was telling the truth.

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When the news broke that a child’s skeletal remains matching what would be consistent with a 3 year old and of similar size and characteristics of missing Caylee Anthony, Cindy and George Anthony were in California after having the night before made an appearance on CNN’s Larry King Live. The grandparents were notified by law enforcement of the finding of a child’s remains near their home and flew back to Orlando later that day. However, a peculiar thing occurred as the news broke that Caylee Anthony may have been finally found after being missing for 6 months.

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Mallory at Anthony home

When the news broke about a child’s body being found, a news reporter was at the Anthony house when Mallory Parker, Lee Anthony’s girl friend, showed up.  Mallory went into the house and was in there for about 10 minutes before the police showed up, banged on the door a couple of times before she came out.  When she finally did came out, law enforcement asked her to leave. ( Watch Video 2:15 mark of tape referencing Lee’s girlfriend).  Why was Mallory at the house? With a body, presumed to be Caylee’s found less than a mile away from Anthony’s home one would have to know that the Anthony home would be an extended crime scene. Why, within 10 minutes was Mallory at the Anthony home? Why did she feel the need to go there and who told her to do so?

As we would later see the Anthony home was taped off by Orange County police as a crime scene and a search warrant was served on the premises. Investigators too out numerous bags, boxes, and items from the home. Why was the search warrant served? Because there were items found at the crime scene where the skeletal remains were located that tied it back to the Anthony’s home. More to come on the discovery of evidence found at the crime scene and their relevance to the Anthony home.

developing …

 



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  • Comments

    38 Responses to “Caylee Anthony Found: Plastic Bag, Skeletal Remains, Duct Tape, Items of Interest, Anthony Home Searched, Part 1”

    1. Greg on December 13th, 2008 6:59 pm

      I would like a DNA match on the father of Caylee Anthony. Maybe a family member?

      The criminals always show up at the crime scene the can not help themselves.

      Mallory Parker, is looking for duct tape? I will pray that finger prints show up on the duct tape.

    2. TnMtMan on December 13th, 2008 7:14 pm

      Looks like Geraldo has gone over to the dark side. Watching Fox news @7:30 PM and Geraldo comes on doing a teaser for his upcoming show at 10. He talks about how the dream defense team is talking about how unfair they are being treated. The gig may be up for George and Cindy Anthony, but the Gig has just started for Geraldo. I would not be surprised if his production company is being paid by Baez.
      And one comment about the”Dream Team”.
      Orlando ain’t New York or LA. I don’t think the law abiding citizens of Florida are not going to take kindly to the Yankee Carpetbagger so called experts telling them what to think. Unfortunately for the “Dream Team”, they won’t be able to RENT-A-JURY from New York or LA.

    3. HOPE on December 13th, 2008 9:10 pm

      No doubt there will be fingerprints on that duct
      tape, along with fibers. But, I, don’t presume to know what happened. Nor do I fill my mind with the filth that comes with trying to guess. There are detectives and forensic scientists to do that.

      The biggest problem that I see is the media’s complete indulgence into this case, while hundreds of children are going missing everyday. Nancy Grace is not a hero, nor are her counterparts. The real heroes are those that put their efforts into assisting those that are truly in need. The children in Africa who are motherless, fatherless and wrenched with disease. The children who are ripped from the arms of their mothers in Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil – never to be seen again. And the countless human beings that suffer from starvation in a world made up of gluttons. The silent tears of those who are neglected and abused by their caretakers. Not to mention the state of human slavery that exists, right under our noses, for the pleasure of the sexually deprived… and the evil greed that eats away at the conscience of what we have come to call human-kind. Casey Anthony is tame, compared to the demons that feed upon our innocence, day in and day out.

      In my opinion, there is only one solution. Not the corrupt governments of this world who put the power of money above the power of love; nor the corrupt religious leaders who rely upon their own interpretation leaving us to be tossed about like babes caught up in a wave of deception; but rather, what we have been taught to pray in the Lord’s prayer. That is my hope and where I have come to put my faith.

    4. Katy Levitt on December 13th, 2008 10:40 pm

      I think Casey may have intentionally used her cell phone pings to mislead the searchers and have them focus on the area near the airport instead of the region around her house. Television programs that discuss crime investigations always mention the cell phone pings and Casey is a smart woman. Katy

    5. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 12:57 am

      Don’t mean to be grumpy…

      It’s a blessing that Caylee was found and a miracle that she is in the condition that’s she’s in. I, above all else, hope that her remains will tell the story of what happened to her and, thus, result in justice. But, am also saddened by the thought that there are hundreds of thousands of missing children and overwhelmed with wishing that we could do more.

      Nite…

      .

    6. babyfacemagee on December 14th, 2008 1:51 am

      Lee Anthony is the father. He and Casey had an incestuous relationship and Caylee (a hybrid of Casey/Lee) was the result. I believe the two of them killed Caylee because they wanted to put the ‘evidence’ of their incest behind them. It is also why Lee Anthony refused to voluntarily give a DNA test.

      I don’t believe the parents knew this until after Caylee was dead however. Casey and Lee hid their incest from their parents out of shame/embarrassment. They made up a story that the father of the child was ‘killed’ in a car accident. But that’s just another lie. The father is Lee. Once the DNA testing is done they will figure this out. Lee should also be arrested as I believe he is an accomplice.

    7. billy on December 14th, 2008 3:20 am

      i would like the time to speak to mother alone she would not be happy to see me but she is good looking father didnt want dna test is not all there man he may be involed or grandma not grandpa

    8. Liz on December 14th, 2008 5:24 am

      We can all hope and pray that this “so called” mother, Casey Anthony will be found guilty soon and we won’t have to see her crocodile tears anylonger. If, however, her “dream team” manages to get her a not guilty…….God help us all!!!

      The Whore should always remember; what goes around, comes around, and she’ll get hers one day.

      God help little Caylee and please, everyone,say a little prayer in your heart for her.

    9. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 6:08 am
    10. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 7:15 am
    11. Greg on December 14th, 2008 7:30 am

      Who is paying for Casey Anthony’s defense team?

      They have bought Linda Kenney Baden (hubby),
      Dr. Henry Lee (messed up the OJ case), Kathy Reichs forensic anthropologist.
      Also four other top forensic pathologist are on retainer.

      Lets not forget Jose Baez and Geraldo Rivera screaming the defense team must do the autopsy. They can play with Caylee’s remains after the FBI and Dr G get done.

      Dr. G Medical Examiner of Orange county, FL is going to have those numb nuts second guess all of her results.

    12. ANewGirl on December 14th, 2008 7:53 am

      #4- Pretty good theory…perhaps you’re right….with the exception of one thing…IMO, Casey Anthony is not smart! Cunning maybe, smart no.

      Being a good liar doesn’t necessarily translate into a high IQ…..One doesn’t have to be an expert to ascertain Casey has been lying from the start—-same with Cindy & George. So much of Cindy acting out in public spoke for itself as well. This will be one of the Crime Trials of the Century. There is no way in hell Casey Anthony is going to make it out alive though. Either through the DEATH penalty or at the hands of someone on the inside…they WILL get to her! Even the hardest of Convicts despise Baby Killers….cruel to say but true.

      If Casey’s Defense team even attempts to go there with an insanity plea—my prayer is that there isn’t a Judge, Jury or DA in the land that will let this one fly! In the tragic case of Susan Smith i.e., —this woman had a history of prolonged Mental Health issues and depression. While it still does not justify her taking the lives of her own children ,,, I have more personal sympathy for this Mother who to this day is in prison and whom I believe truly had lost her mind and was suffering from severe Post-Partum Depression as well. On the other hand….Casey Anthony is the daughter of Lucifer himself!

      RIP Babygirl Caylee….you deserved so much better.

      ****** Justice for Caylee Marie Anthony *******
      BRING THAT WHOLE DEMENTED FAMILY DOWN !!

    13. kitty on December 14th, 2008 10:22 am

      well said, Hope.

      I’ll never understand why children are de-valued all over the world and more isn’t being done to protect them, and their innocent beings, bless them …

      Advocate for 18 years and it goes on deaf ears…
      and praying, always praying.

      bless.

    14. Sharon Chicago on December 14th, 2008 10:45 am

      I think Casey was not challenged much to come forth with the truth by her parents growing up. They might have asked her questions in regard to some of Casey’s lies she told her parents but they did not push it, or have decernment on it…. they just let her behave that way because lieing was not a big deal in that household. I think it was a way of life for them.

      Therefore, Casey would not come up with any intricate coverup schemes and never worried about the consequences only a quick fix.

      As disfunctional as George and Cindy are, they are not killers like their daughter…they loved Caylee. I am sure they are heart broken because she is dead. They acted so disfunctional when Casey was accused of killing Caylee…but they were in their normal denial state that they operated in all their lives.

      Also, if the young man who died in a car crash was really Caylee’s dad…DNA testing on this person’s family would confirm whether he was Caylee’s father.

    15. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 3:08 pm

      Thanks, Kitty!

      The problem with speculation is that one can believe their opinion so strongly that when the truth comes out, they don’t accept it. I don’t have any opinion as to the personal lives of the Anthony’s. I don’t agree with the way they have portrayed themselves on television, but that is the only part of their lives that I am somewhat familiar with. Other than to say that I don’t understand their actions; I have no insight into their daily lives before this tragedy.

      Besides, in my opinion, Nancy Grace does nothing more than fill her audience with hate and innuendo; keeping them living on the edge so they’ll be sure to tune in tomorrow.

      Justice takes time…

      Time that could be spent helping others.

      Good Day…

    16. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 3:20 pm

      AND… You’re so right all we can do is pray!

      .

      Bless you, too.

      :)

    17. Focusoncaylee on December 14th, 2008 3:49 pm

      Yes there are thousands of other missing children, and other issues at hand, THIS one here is about ONE child, she’s a child who has caught the attention of thousands maybe millions of people, (and GOOD for that).

      There are people who are closely related to this, and those who are not, but all joining in on wanting one thing, and that is to find out the truth about what DID happen.

      We all have different ideas and points and opinions. My opinion is that Lee IS the father and it may not matter much to anyone but it DOES matter to some. I also think that Casey did kill that baby and she probably DID do it intentionally which some do not agree.

      Some think it was an accident, but I think she planned it and I think that whole family is whacked out psychotic. ALL of them.

      I think the reasons why this case is so fascinating is because of the age of Casey, her beauty, I think she has used this to manipulate men her entire life, including her brother AND her father, and certainly Jose Beaz.

      The jealousy of her mother, and vice versa, the baby’s beauty, and innocence, the circus charachter defense team and the charachters involved in the “kidfinder criminal organization” and the craziness of the family.. It’s all weirded out, and THAT is what keeps the public interested.

      Among other things I’m sure

    18. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 4:41 pm

      Kitty:

      One more thing:

      I want you to know that I remember you and I hope that the friend that you were telling me about who was trafficked and sold into slavery is safe and sound. No doubt with a family such as yours with love and emotional support, he is doing better and continuing with his education.

      God bless you for all you do and if there is a better place where I can help in your endeavors, please let me know.

      Kind regards,

      Patti

    19. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 4:59 pm

      Focus:

      There may be several reasons why the Anthony’s would say that the father of Caylee is dead. One being that his parental rights were violated. Had he known that he had a child, especially, one that may have been being abused; would have lead them into a legal battle that they wouldn’t want to deal with. Along with parental rights comes responsibility and along with parental responsibility comes visitation rights and custody battles. Sadly, many women make the choice to abandon their commitment to the father of what they perceive as THEIR child; in order to put the burden of support on the state as opposed to someone that would love the child and, possibly, get into the way.

      There are hundreds of thousands of psychotics and, perhaps, it is better to focus on the innocent as opposed to trying to dissect the minds of the ones that prey upon them. As far as I’m concerned, this case is in the hands of the professionals that know how to deal with these issues. I trust that they will do their best to bring justice to this child.

      She is gone and so is her suffering. There is no reason to rehash the crime committed against her over and over again based on pure speculation. Have a heart…

      She is free!

    20. HOPE on December 14th, 2008 5:19 pm

      Quote from Above:

      It’s all weirded out, and THAT is what keeps the public interested.

      ********************************************

      And that, above all, is why I chose to walk away; and find something better to put my energy into. This child has suffered enough without being called an in-bred or suffering the sins of her mother even after she’s gone.

      Everyone knows the lessons learned from this tragedy and there’s no reason to pound it into our minds. In my opinion, that, in itself, is sick.

      Walk among the living.

      .

    21. Focusoncaylee on December 14th, 2008 11:24 pm

      Seriously Hope… (no pun intended) but it doesn’t look like you’ve “walked away” to me. Maybe you’re putting WAY too much energy into this thing… Give it a rest girlfriend.

      My opinion (which is why there are no issues regarding an “absent” father) is that Lee IS the father, I’ll say it again.. But, it’s only my opinion…

      There is nothing new about “incest” it happens in all kinds of famlies.. But it’s a hard thing to swallow and a sickening thing to admit to, so it’s kept secret, just because your shallow mind does not want to deal with shit like this does NOT mean that it does not happen.

      It explains a LOT of what is wrong (the many things that are wrong) with this psycho family.

      And, you said it yourself … You do not fill your mind with filth trying to guess, so don’t.. I do.. I face reality and if I’m wrong, so be it… But You have no idea of my background, nor do you know who I am.. so how could you possibly know if I am wrong or I am right?

      It doesn’t matter much to me whether you do or you don’t, I am simply stating on a forum my opinon, and that’s it.

      We’ll see what comes of this, meanwhile… The “energy” thing…. It’s electrifying!

    22. Focusoncaylee on December 14th, 2008 11:29 pm

      Another thing.. Hope has a total of 8 posts on this 1 article… If THAT is not obsessive, and energetic, I don’t know what is… Anyway, this is my LAST word to Hope (sorry Hope but I don’t do arguments online.. It’s stupid and I don’t want to cloud my filthy mind with anyMORE nonsense).

    23. HOPE on December 15th, 2008 1:50 am

      Focus:

      If you posted under your current name, I could go to the forum and find how many times you’ve posted your opinion over the past 24 – 36 hours. By all means, you’re entitled to your opinion. As far as incest is concerned, you’re singing to the choir. I have done research into the subject and am, certainly, aware that it exists.

      One thing that was not directed at you, or your opinion, is the fact that I am not going to speculate why the duct tape was on her mouth and any suffering that she may have gone through or the condition of her body, other than to say that this child suffered worse things, in life, than being placed into the trunk of a car after death.

      By all means, if that’s something that you want to expound upon, feel free… after all, in your own words, ‘It’s ELECTRIFYING!’ It’s not that hard to figure out where you’re going with this.

      .

    24. kitty on December 15th, 2008 2:33 am

      yes, Hope, The young man I spoke about and have met personally, is well and advocates still… his name is Francis Bok and wrote “Escape from Slavery”.. his own compelling story of what happened to him while a boy of 6, in Sudan and he’s here in the U.S.A. He’s met our President, many top officials and still pressing on… his friend, and ours, Gabe, is in Sudan, meeting his mother for the first time in 10 years, along with his siste3 sisters… as I type this… pray, the find their birth certificates and can immigrate here… a local college is funding this wonderful reunion and helping his Mom and sisters immigrate… just amazing… they too, love the Lord and talk about grace…. we love these men and are thankful, they are sharing their life stories with the world… keep all of them, in our prayers, those suffering worldwide and bless the children, God Bless the children… (I’m overwhelmed, that you remembered, Hope… I’ve not posted about that in a long while… )…
      Have a blessed, Christmas…

      One thing, Francis shared in his book, when he was enslaved, was something his Dad shared with him… it kept him going… “when there is one, there is always two, when there is two, there are three… you are NEVER alone, as God is always with you… that kept Francis going and still is within his heart and I’ve shared that with others… the book, is something you’ll never forget and I’m thankful for the Francis’s, who advocate for slavery, trafficking, etc., worldwide and God Bless him and others who’ve endured such suffering, that most of us, will never identify with , but can love them through… and pray… always, pray…

    25. kitty on December 15th, 2008 2:45 am

      Hope, Gabe has completed his education, is working at the college he attended and is a remarkable young man… he found his Mom and sisters, after 10 years. He thought they were all killed and gone… his brother, is in Australia ~ he’s visited his brother and is in communication with him… just before he introduced Francis Bok, guest speaking, he shared his own story, publicly for the first time and also added, that he had just spoken to his Mother for the first time in 10 years and the phone call, lasted for 5 hours, as her dilalect had changed and what a reunion!… the college audience wept visable tears as he shared and also, when Francis spoke of his truth…you could hear people’s audible gasps, and crying… it was that riviting and gripping ~ So hard to believe, this exists in the 20th century… so much suffering, world wide… at least our leaders are paying attention… however, so much more needs to be done… We are truly, so insulated in our country of the autrocities and suffering on this magnitude…

      and yet, reality grips again, when the little Cayley’s of this world, are harmed… and children are assualted every day, victimized… sold, trafficked… it’s a sick world we live in.

      Pray and press on ~ speak up, and let the voices be heard… many have been silenced, however, those who have not, have found their voices and they roar and are being heard… and are no longer victims, but living victoriously…

      God Bless them all…

    26. HOPE on December 15th, 2008 2:49 am

      P.S.

      In reality, I’ve put very little energy
      into this ‘thing’ as you put it.

      .

      For me, it’s about Caylee,

      not capitalizing on a media

      feeding frenzy!

      .

      Perhaps, Lee feels the same way.

      .

    27. HOPE on December 15th, 2008 7:36 am

      By the way, Focus:

      You’re beginning to sound like Aruba

      with all your talk about incest.

      Funny how some people can’t help themselves.

      Is there a name for this dysfunction

      or is it some sort of new-fangled disease?

      What is it that drives people to come up with

      utter nonsense to attack the victims of crime?

      .

      Perhaps you’ve been overtaxing your imagination?

      .

      Gee… If only I were Lee

      ?????

      I’d do a little sneaky, sneaky

      with Natalee…

      OOPS!

      I mean cccccCasey!

      .

      Does that ring a bell, Carpe?

      And, PLEASE, don’t call me ‘girlfriend’

      I thought I made it perfectly clear

      the night I left you in my dust~~~

      at WALMART!

      .

      Remember, PSYCHO?

      .

      Carpe…. a fancy word for Sucker!

      .

    28. Brenda in Virginia on December 15th, 2008 7:42 am

      Dear Katie…you thought of what I was going to post. Casey is crazy like a fox she is! Being her father was a homicide detective, and Casey also dated a few police officers on her little journey through men in her life…she wasn’t ignorant of how the law operates, and how an investigation is handled.

      What she seems to do best of all is show NO emotion. Doubt she really feels much of anything outside of her own pleasures. She says nothing helpful in the investigation and little of nothing to implicate herself. This young lady is well versed at manipulation. She, like Scott Peterson, will deny until her dying day she did anything in relation to the murder of her child Caylee Marie.

    29. HOPE on December 15th, 2008 8:10 am

      Kitty:

      I hope you realize none of that ranting was meant for you. This place gets on my nerves. There are a few people here that, literally, hate my guts because I believe that Natalee was trafficked. I wanted to get some people together and go to Washington D.C. after Joran came out and said that he had sold Natalee. I’ve always wanted to do something in order to make the public more aware but, Beth Holloway believes her daughter to be dead and out of respect for her, I’ve given it up.

      I’ll pray for your friend and his family and hope for their safe arrival. It would be such a blessing to have the family united, again, especially, here, where there needs to be more awareness.

      You’re right about the truth falling on deaf ears on this site. I think this is just a bunch of people that like to sit at their computers and think their solving crimes. They put more effort in doing that than making any efforts that might result in change. I know they believe in what they are doing and I don’t mean to be judgmental; but my heart is elsewhere.

      Thank you for your reply,

      Patti

    30. DKD on December 15th, 2008 8:51 am

      Casy Antony will get out on an insanity plea… I know this because she is a paraniod schiz in the beginning stages. There has been NO TRUTH in her words to anyone. She simply knows the disappointment she would have caused her parents and she would never tell the truth if it means dissapointing mommy and daddy. She will progressively get worse. She has no emotion about her behaviors, to live with herself and the decisions she has made in the past 7 months. Her mother is of no help… what the mother should have done was shun her from the beginning, this would have not fed the lie frenzies and forced Casey to feel the immediate dissapointment. this treatment would have frustrated Casey and the attention would have been not of hope, but of realization. The truth woudl have come sooner…as devistating as it is. I wish we could burn her at the stake after a public flogging…

    31. Lotusjani on December 15th, 2008 1:11 pm

      I do not think that Casey will ever be free. It is strange the mistery of Caylee’s father but saying that it’s Lee’s kid is going a little bit too far, but any thing could happen. Only Casey knows, Lee and the cover up grandparents. Cindy is the orchestrator of it all, she shuts George’s mouth and then George comes out with the pizza b.s. after he told the authorities that he smelled decomp in the car. And Geraldo Rivera is a jerk, I used to like him but the way he came on yesterday defending Baez and that chick Baden, come on! No defense team has ever allowed to be present at an autopsy. And who is paying all these experts, the Dream Team? Dr. Coby as Nancy Grace calls him, said he was not concerned about the finance side of it, but the Baden and Lee? hmmm, they are there for the money, do not work for free.

    32. Kaye on December 15th, 2008 2:13 pm

      Baden and Lee didn’t help Phil Spector. I agree with Lotsusjani….they aren’t working free. Some say for the publicity down the road but I don’t think so. I wonder who is footing the bill for all of the legal defense. Also who paid for the Anthonys to go to California and the other places they have gone to “follow up on sightings”? What about living expenses? Are either Cindy or George working or have they worked since Caylee was found to be missing.

    33. kitty on December 15th, 2008 2:17 pm

      understood, and I’m hearing your heart… it is frustrating and I asked for monkey’s and others to print up a grass roots effort type of a letter, that we can all sign on and click away to our Senators/Congressmen/President for that matter and it got nowhere… so, that’s that…

      For Natalee, God knows… and it’s such a shame… I too, wondered about her having been trafficked as the PI from Dr. Phil’s show, was physically harmed when he got too close… then, there’s the forensic psychic team that felt she was murdered and put to sea… ~ only God truly knows and of course, Joran… and sadly, many of us, believe, that Paulus knows the truth and Creo’s and Van Der Straaten (he too, may know much more than is being said).. these guys are going at it and Joran, changes his story, like he’s changing his clothes, on a daily basis and it sickened me, when they said he was in Thailand… (many sex offenders/traffickers are there too) as they are world wide, however, Thailand, is known for it’s child sex rings…

      I’m sure, in Joran’s lies,as written in his book~ (like O.J.’s) there are snippets of truths in between the lines and it’s been fascinating seeing it unfold…

      I’d of rather seen a much more proactive effort of us doing more than just boycotting…the travel agencies/or the island.. effective, yes.. yet, the pen is mighty and many of us could have literally signed on together to make even a bigger statement abroad, without anger, rage and just done it matter of factly, sensibly and with dignity…and integrity… to the Rijks, to Queen Beatrix, to whomever, where-ever… and I’m sure, they’ve gotten the message… it’s all about power and control and some quite frankly, don’t give a crap and want it all to go away…

      You’re not being judgemental with your comments, it’s pure observation and you made a judgement call… and it is okay, you’re entitled to your opinions and we’ll just continue to pray, keep the Faith and truly, be proactive in efforts that are worth it… so worth it… Francis Bok’s book, has his organizations information available regarding Slavery/trafficking/abuse… that one can donate to and he is being proactive and doing something making changes…with folks, worldwide…

      A very dear person put it in perspective once by saying, “God never wastes our pain or our suffering”… true… and bless those who’ve suffered in ways we can not even begin to comprehend, yet, have compassion enough to pray and act when we can… enough said…

      Many here, have been good souls to write and do what they felt necessary to get some action.. it’s just frustrating, after 3 years, this case is so messed up and somehow, Beth, has Gods grace to move on… and educate others, through her pain and suffering… bless her and bless her daughter’s memory…

      As for our friend, being reunited! Oh, wouldn’t you just love to witness that moment!… I cry, just thinking about it!!! and can’t imagine it… he was a little anxious about returning to the Sudan, and perhaps, some day, he too, will write a book, sharing his journey… just amazing… He walks with God, has immense Faith in God and is truly, humble… we learn much by observing and what a man… it’s important for us to use our voices and continue to speak out about atrocities and human rights ~ we’re all of the human race…

      Praying puts it in perspective for me and is powerful… I do believe in miracles and have witnessed too many, not to believe in the power of God and He’s in control…

      Bless you, Patti ~ you’re not alone and many feel as you do ~ we’ll just give it to God and pray for His H.Spirit to intercede and reveal the truth…

      It’s just that in Aruba, it’s so BIG and seems apparent and obvious, corrupt… that’s why no one’s talking, they are living in fear… oh my… and how cruel, to put a Mother through what Beth’s been through… shame on those who did this to Natalee, and to make her Mother suffer more… just shameful… That is when Faith kicks in, and you Let God do His thing, as the one(s) who harmed Natalee, or those who harm children, will definitely get theirs in the end when they answer to God Himself. He says, if anyone shall harm my children, it would be better to have a millstone tied around their neck and dropped into the bottom of the sea… than to deal with His wrath… they( the monsters/murderers/predators/… may think they’ve gotten away with it, in an earthly sense, however, God will take care and He says, vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord…

      anyhow, keep the Faith, and keep praying for resolve in Natalee’s case and the one, like this dear little one…

      bless ~

      Merry Christmas

    34. Focusoncaylee on December 15th, 2008 2:58 pm

      I think “Hope” is about as psychotic as casey Anthony.. Whoa there Hopie,,, “girlfriend”.. peace, love and happiness to you.. take a chill pill man.. calm down…. It’s not that big of a deal, and you’re really putting WAY to much “energy” into this… Lol.

      Carpe?… a “fancy” word… Wow, your vocabulary is monumental and encyclopedic! So… you shop at Walmart do ya?… Figured.

    35. James S on December 16th, 2008 12:33 pm

      I think you’r right Focus.
      WOW.

      DKD:

      I was checking out symptoms of a sociopath, check this out…….

      Glibness and Superficial Charm

      Manipulative and Conning
      They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

      Grandiose Sense of Self
      Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”

      Pathological Lying
      Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

      Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
      A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

      Shallow Emotions
      When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

      Incapacity for Love

      Need for Stimulation
      Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

      Callousness/Lack of Empathy
      Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

      Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
      Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

      Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
      Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

      Irresponsibility/Unreliability
      Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

      Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
      Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

      Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
      Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

      Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
      Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

      Other Related Qualities:

      Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
      Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
      Authoritarian
      Secretive
      Paranoid
      Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
      Conventional appearance
      Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
      Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life
      Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
      Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
      Incapable of real human attachment to another
      Unable to feel remorse or guilt
      Extreme narcissism and grandiose
      May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

      Sounds just like her.

    36. patti on December 17th, 2008 2:59 am

      I think Patti is afraid. She doesn’t trust people on the internet, especially, men. Carpe used to beat her up something fierce. She’s just a normal person, but shes blessed and all this pressure to make her god happy its got to be hard. i woldn’t want to be in her shoes cause she trys to be fummy and the things she does jjst sort of come out. she said she didn’t make it happen she just rights. Kitty thank you for being nice to her.

    37. Gina on December 21st, 2012 5:39 pm

      I wonder why Mallory Parker went to the Anthony home when LE was out with Caylee’s remains and the Anthonys were notified. Oh, maybe she was just checking the mail. Funny she isn’t afraid of having children with a guy who was rumored to have fathered his own niece. Talk about a deal breaker!

    38. Gina on December 21st, 2012 5:45 pm

      So many people have said like me that they think Casey Anthony has schizophrenia. I wonder whether it has occured to her that she should probably be on some type of medication. That and her moving to Switzerland and marrying a rich man who can keep her hidden and well-cared for….that would be her best bet. If anyone has a mental illness, there is always some part of them who always wants to question whether or not they have it. Casey has it. She needs to admit it and shame on the state of Florida. They did a rotten job of finding Caylee’s body and for them to say Casey Anthony is not insane: Florida is crazy.

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