Cracking the ACORN Nut, Internal Acorn Report Raises Issues of Legality … Obama ties


ACORN illegal. Really? Say it isn’t so. Since when is voter registration fraud, Vanderbilt_acorn_nutembezzlement and improper use of charitable dollars for political purposes been considered legal? The “lame stream media” has refused to investigate ACORN and has made excuses for the direct ties between Obama and ACORN; however, the New York Times is now at least discussing an internal report from an audit of ACORN. The end result … violations of federal laws.

An internal report by a lawyer for the community organizing group Acorn raises questions about whether the web of relationships among its 174 affiliates may have led to violations of federal laws.

The group, formally known as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, has been in the news over accusations that it is involved in voter registration fraud, charges it says are overblown and politically motivated.

Republicans have tried to make an issue of Senator Barack Obama’s ties to the group, which he represented in a lawsuit in 1995. The Obama campaign has denied any connection with Acorn’s voter registration drives.

The June 18 report, written by Elizabeth Kingsley, a Washington lawyer, spells out her concerns about potentially improper use of charitable dollars for political purposes; money transfers among the affiliates; and potential conflicts created by employees working for multiple affiliates, among other things.

It also offers a different account of the embezzlement of almost $1 million by the brother of Acorn’s founder, Wade Rathke, than the one the organization gave in July, when word of the theft became public.

ACORN as a non-partisan organization to get out the vote or is it more a partisan ploy under the guise of a non-profit to aide Obama getting elected? As Michelle Malkin writes, “No connection, eh, Barry O?”

Ms. Kingsley’s concerns about the way Acorn affiliates work together could fuel the controversy over Acorn’s voter registration efforts, which are largely underwritten by an affiliated charity, Project Vote. Project Vote hires Acorn to do voter registration work on its behalf, and the two groups say they have registered 1.3 million voters this year.

As a federally tax-exempt charity, Project Vote is subject to prohibitions on partisan political activity. But Acorn, which is a nonprofit membership corporation under Louisiana law, though subject to federal taxation, is not bound by the same restrictions.

“Project Vote and Acorn have a written agreement that specifies that all work is nonpartisan,” Michael Slater, Project Vote’s new executive director, wrote in answer to e-mailed questions about the relationship.

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    37 Responses to “Cracking the ACORN Nut, Internal Acorn Report Raises Issues of Legality … Obama ties”

    1. SUPER DAVE on October 22nd, 2008 8:12 am

      a customer of mine just came into the store and told me that his 70 year old grandfather who lives in south Dallas,Tx. had a mccain/palin sign in his yard. 6 black boys broke in his house , beat him severely, and told him it was for barack obama!!!

    2. nurturer on October 22nd, 2008 8:29 am

      How the left, and their cousins on the far-left, continuously voice their concern as to how The United States is perceived by the rest of the world. Obama himself has said on numerous occasions, that international status of The United States has waned in these past years, due to the fault of the current administration. It is oh-so-important that the United States be a beacon of example for the rest of the world.

      Yet, isn’t it truly irconic how the left and far-left, including ACORN, do not seem at all concerned about how The United States will be perceived by the world as they themselves use corruption and intimidation in their attempts to garner a presdential win. Afterall, we can only assume that the members of ACORN are indeed United States citizens. Correct?

      Suddenly world opinion has no place. Their hypocrisy is boring because it has become so expected, that no pond scum tactics from the left, particularly the far-left surprises anyone any more.

      Deliberate voter fraud and party intimidation are the same FASCIST tactics used by Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, and now Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and now, ACORN.

    3. nurturer on October 22nd, 2008 8:41 am

      #1 – It’s ocassions like that where a .45 is very useful.

    4. brie. on October 22nd, 2008 8:43 am

      The Obama campaign is the dirtiest and most corrupt campaign there has even been and it shouldn’t be permitted to continue until the investigations are resolved….we already know we have illegal voter registration, ….how can you have an honest election…which is what people want and deserve, except for Democrats…this is being controlled by thugs…..that’s where the money is coming from…

      Anytime you bring up and issue with Obama, even though it is true, he will deny it…Barry Sorento I hope you are exposed for what your are….

      The other issue about spreading your wealth, he has 7 million dollars which didn’t come being a community organizer and how much of that did he give to charity, nothing more than a dribble, you can spread your wealth but don’t touch his….what a pig!!!!!

    5. on October 22nd, 2008 8:52 am

      Face it Monkeys, if this election is for sale, Barack Obama owns it. He’s spent $600 Million buying America. He’s lied about his associations with Ayers, Wright, ACORN, Pflegar, Raines, Johnson and anyone else who gets in his way.

      ACORN is using your tax dollars to dilute your vote. And in a report this morning, it’s estimated that Barack Obama’s tax plan will move another 10% of taxpayers to the non taxpayer rolls, bring the total to over 47% of Americans who don’t pay taxes. And do remember that many of these non taxpayers (who get the same or better benefits from government as the rest of us) not only don’t pay taxes, but will get some of our tax money distributed to them.

      The purpose of income tax was suppose to be for Americans to pay for Government, a service to all Americans. It was not intended to be a redistribution of one man’s money to another. And, if government spending required control, every American could comfortably contribute to the services the government provides (roads, elections, FBI, CIA, military, representatives, civil defense, intelligence, etc.) But because government has gone out of control – they merely raise more money by taxing those they serve.

      Now we have the US Government giving money, $30 million, to an organization that is stealing the election for their candidate. Can we be any worse than a 3rd world country at this level?

    6. A New Girl on October 22nd, 2008 9:25 am

      Acorn illegal??….Obama’s hand in it again? Oh, yes-Monkeys—-say it isn’t so! Problem is—too close to the election now for the whole fiasco to be properly investigated and all the facts exposed.

      This may be a bit off topic—found a great article this morning….hope those hypnotized will read this in plain english. So much of what I believe personally is encapsulated in the writers article. My only hope is that others will pay close attention, even this late in the campaign!

      By D.Allen Kerr

      As unfashionable as it seems to be this political season, I write tonight not in celebration nor in condemnation of Barack Obama; I write in praise of John McCain.

      There’s much to admire in both men, and at various times over recent months I’ve leaned toward one or the other. But come November 4, I’ll be casting my ballot for McCain. I’m not voting for him because he was a prisoner of war for five-and-a-half years, and I’m not voting for him because his opponent’s father was Kenyan. I’m voting for John McCain because at this point in history, he’s the better man for the job.

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      Celebrating a Ship of State And what’s more, he’s earned it.

      There was a time in my younger days when I may have been swept up by the historical aspects of Obama’s candidacy, or his sonorous rhetoric. I might have wanted to join the “cool” crowd, along with all the other cool people who are supporting Obama. Certainly the allure of associating oneself to such an epic moment — to actually BE a part of history — is tempting.

      But being a dad now, and a new dad all over again, I have other priorities. Simply put, the idea of McCain in the White House at a time when loose screws like Vladimir Putin and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are running around makes me feel a little safer.

      Obama’s running mate Joe Biden set off a hundred thousand workplace debates the other day when he warned there would be people eager to test an untried President Obama, just as JFK was tested by the Cuban Missile Crisis. With these words, Biden reminded us that in McCain we HAVE a man who has been tested, again and again, over the course of his life. We have some idea of how McCain might respond to particular situations; with Obama, we’re not quite sure. There’s no track record.

      Obama is often compared to JFK in terms of both charisma and experience, but Kennedy, for all his youth, had already served thirteen years in Congress when he was elected president in 1960. He was famously tempered by war, and vetted during serious consideration for his party’s vice-presidential slot in 1956.

      For all his other attributes, there’s no getting around the fact that none of us knew who Barack Obama was four years ago. He was in the U.S. Senate for less than two years before he started preparing his White House bid. Obama, in time, might have the makings of a great president, but can it truly be said that he’s paid the dues to earn this position?

      You look at a guy like John McCain and you have no doubts the man is qualified to be commander-in-chief. Among presidents, perhaps only Andrew Jackson comes close to being more “tested” than the Arizona senator. McCain’s exploits as a POW in Vietnam have been thoroughly documented both here and elsewhere, so we won’t even revisit that remarkable chapter.

      Even so, McCain has proven his tenacity many times during his life, escaping death repeatedly as a hotshot Navy flier and as a cancer survivor. He spent more than 22 years in the military and another 28 years in Congress. He knows how to get things done. His much-discussed reputation as a political maverick — and selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate — highlights the kind of fierce independence a president will need in the 21st century.

      Any doubt I had that McCain was the right choice dissipated during the recent economic crisis, when he announced he was suspending his political campaign to help resolve the controversial bailout plan. It was a bold and risky move, as evidenced by pathetic efforts from Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to blame McCain when the initial agreement fell apart. But while McCain inserted himself into the middle of the fray, Obama remained on the sidelines. He sought instead to hang back and see how it would all play out.

      Sorry, but that is not leadership. Being a leader means you get out in front and take a stand, one way or the other.

      “If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole,” McCain told Congress. But here’s a funny thing — he said this back in 2005.

      Although the mainstream media mysteriously makes little mention of it, McCain tried to head off the mortgage crisis that year, even co-sponsoring a bill — the Federal Housing Regulatory Act of 2005 — to rein in these government-sponsored entities. How many of you knew that? Think about it for a minute. And then think about this — what might have happened if the bill had passed?

      McCain has repeatedly been at the forefront of hot-button issues throughout his career. He’s done it with campaign finance reform and with immigration legislation (which he co-sponsored with Ted Kennedy), even when these stances drew the ire of some within his own party. Long before it was popular to do so, McCain advocated the “surge” of additional troops in Iraq, which helped finally turn the tide in a seemingly impossible war.

      See, that’s what leaders do. I have yet to see Obama display this kind of guts on any political issue.

      My old man — the old-school liberal and retired Methodist minister – counters my argument about Obama’s lack of experience by saying he’s more comfortable with Obama’s vision of the future. He prefers that world for his grandchildren to the vision offered by the opposition, he says.

      I guess I can appreciate that. After all, Obama does paint a pretty picture. But right now, these are increasingly hard times in an increasingly hard world. If we want to make it to the future we have to get through the present, and McCain has the strength of character and resolve to see us through. He’s the guy I want by the hotline when I’m tucking my baby daughter in at night.

      I write this knowing I may be trying to fight back a tidal wave with a push broom, since Obama seems to have this election sewn up. It almost seems to be a replay of the Bill Clinton-Bob Dole presidential race of 1996. But McCain was a wrestler in high school and a boxer at the Naval Academy; you can’t ever count the guy out. His campaign for the Republican nomination was practically on life support long before the primaries began (at one point he was flying commercial and carrying his own luggage), but he gutted it out and came through on top.

      As I said, I’m not voting for McCain just because of his wartime heroism, but it helps knowing this man has the kind of iron will to survive such an ordeal with personal grace intact. He’s a man to whom courage and honor are practically physical attributes, and he’s been tested as few others have ever been. He’s earned the right to be our president and, more importantly, he’s the president we’re going to need.


      D. Allan Kerr is shamelessly angling for an appointment as ambassador to Scotland in the next presidential administration. He may be reached at

      ***McCain/Palin ’08 ***

    7. brie. on October 22nd, 2008 9:35 am

      This is a stinky mess….and we shouldn’t be letting it happen…!!!!

    8. truth on October 22nd, 2008 9:58 am

      I didn’t realize that this is a Republican website! I have really enjoyed reading the Natalee threads and the forums… but this is getting tedious.

    9. SUPER DAVE on October 22nd, 2008 10:02 am

      barry will disarm the U.S. then feed us to the enemy. better hide your firearms and ammo. the dems want these too.

    10. scott on October 22nd, 2008 10:45 am

      truth – your presence is tedious. bye bye now!

    11. ANewGirl on October 22nd, 2008 10:46 am

      #8= Truth—- Scared Monkeys is really not a “Republican Website”. I believe this website was started and it’s main focus & concentration was devoted to Missing and Exploited Children & Adults. Personally speaking, I rather enjoy the politics and current issues which are posted daily on the blog.

      While it is safe to say there are many political postings/articles contained here which do lean much more towards the right than left—everyone on here is certainly entitled to their own views and opinions and may post freely.

      Just for the record- there are many INDEPENDENTS who come here regularly as well. If it is becoming tedious to you- then you can always log on to or become a member of the SM FORUMS- which concentrate soley on Missing Persons cases, etc. and other information relating to our current times.

      Many of us “Monkeys” welcome and enjoy exchanging ideas with all who enter, so feel free to stick around if you’d like.

      Have a nice day =)

      **McCain/Palin ’08**

    12. ANewGirl on October 22nd, 2008 10:51 am

      On the light side—I really do have to chuckle every time I see that photoshop art of Obama with the Acorn hat. LMAO !

      So funny.

    13. MBS on October 22nd, 2008 11:23 am

      No. 8, what a great letter. The thing is, Obama has already been tested, and demonstrated a weakness in foreign policy issues that will not serve this country well. This article is kind of long, but really informative:
      “But here’s why Sen. Biden is wrong on the world testing Sen. Obama’s mettle. No one has to test his mettle. They know he is weak on foreign policy, and has a heavy tinge of appeasement, retreat, defeat, and surrender – as does the Democratic Party, which nominated him. Our enemies already know Sen. Obama is weak and soft, as is his party, so our enemies will just proceed with their plans for terrorism and aggression.

      Why would the Russians want to test his mettle? They saw what he is made of by his reaction to the Russian invasion of Georgia. First, Sen. Obama called for restraint on both sides. So the Russians know, that in the face of aggression, instead of taking a firm stand with an ally and innocent victim, Sen. Obama calls for restraint on the part of the victim being invaded. Why test someone who has so clearly flunked his exam?

      Then the Russians heard Sen. Obama suggest the matter be sent to the Security Council. The Russians now know he is so wet behind the ears on foreign policy that he doesn’t even know the Russians have a veto in the Security Council and could make sure nothing happened there.

      Then the Russians heard Sen. Obama observe that we’d be in a better position to complain about this aggression if we set a good example ourselves. So the Russians know he equates their illegal, unprovoked aggression against Georgia with America’s legal, U.N.-sanctioned liberation of Iraq from the murderous Saddam Hussein, the butcher of Baghdad. This tells the Russians he doesn’t approve of America using armed force to defend its national interests and he doesn’t have the sense to refrain from criticizing his own country in a time of international crisis.

      The Russians would know it took him three times to finally adopt Sen. John McCain’s position of clearly identifying the Russians as the aggressor, the wrongdoer and the problem. So why would the Russians test Biden? They would invade the Ukraine in a minute and wait for President Obama to call for restraint, to ask the matter be sent to the Security Council and to again condemn his own country for past use of military force.
      The Iranians would lose no time in attacking one of their neighbors, most likely Israel. Perhaps by then armed with nuclear weapons, they would use them on a neighbor, or threaten to blackmail a neighbor or perhaps even a continent such as Europe, if certain concessions were not forthcoming. Obama would call for restraint, and assure the American people again, as he has already done, that Iran is a tiny country and not a real threat to the U.S. The Iranians know he said this while they were killing American troops in Iraq, sending terrorists and weapons into Iraq and serving as the headquarters of international terrorism.

      The Iranians know what others have already said – Sen. Obama is a Jimmy-Carter type, only worse. They know how President Carter locked himself in the White House and did not face down international lawlessness after the Iranian took American hostages at our embassy in Teheran.

      Why test his mettle, when his record suggests an enemy of America can invade, attack, and terrorize with impunity. Remember his reaction to 9/11 – the typical liberal, leftist response. We’ve got to understand why they did such a terrible thing. Anyone with good judgment would say we’ve got to kill and defeat all those responsible for this mass murder. When Pastor Rick Warren asked him what he would do about evil, he danced around like a confused college professor. When Sen. McCain was asked the same question, he said, without hesitation, you defeat it.

      Terrorists would be aware of Sen. Obama’s reaction to the first bombing of the World Trade Center. He said you handle it with the legal system and prosecute wrongdoers. I’m sure al-Qaeda is trembling waiting for a grand jury and indictments from Obama? Will that really deter terrorists or just give them a fat laugh? Like Obama, President Clinton believed in the law enforcement approach to terrorism, and that mistake led directly to 9/11.”

    14. MBS on October 22nd, 2008 11:25 am

      Oops, I meant to refer to Post No. 6, the letter from D. Allan Kerr, not No. 8.

    15. nurturer on October 22nd, 2008 11:36 am

      #10 – There’s no need to be nasty!

    16. truth on October 22nd, 2008 12:45 pm

      thanks #11 (ANewGirl)… you have class :)

    17. caesu on October 22nd, 2008 1:19 pm

      oh, please…
      try for once not to listen to FOX and those hate fests on the talkradio.

      all this is unlikely to lead to any actual fraudulent vote casted.
      it is all a big scam by Republicans to surpress votes and throw thousands or even millions of votes out.

      turnout is always been a disadvantage for Republicans.

      so they try all sorts of things to surpress voters.
      less voting booths in Democratic areas to name one thing.

      i am sure the next Democratic government will make a lot of changes to the electoral process.
      even in 3rd World countries they can manage an election better.
      call this the ‘greatest democracy’ in the world, wanting to ‘spread demcracy’.
      they can’t even manage their own election.
      always trying to rig it.

      i would suggest to get rid of the electoral vote, replace it with popular vote.
      that way it’s not the fringe groups who will decide the election and it doesn’t have to end up in a mad rage racial hate fest.

    18. SUPER DAVE on October 22nd, 2008 2:16 pm

      caesu: don’t forget your paid prostitutes clogging up the voting booths. the only mad racial hate fest is coming from the democrats. it started with the hate toward sarah palin because she put every one of you on your poor asses the very first time she spoke.
      barry is trying to buy this election, steal, cheat,even to the point of breaking into an old man’s house , beating him senseless, and don’t forget the robbery too. all for barry .

    19. Michelle on October 22nd, 2008 2:17 pm


      Please put down the crack pipe and back away. You have certainly gone off the deep end now.

    20. linda on October 22nd, 2008 2:31 pm

      Oh you can all calm down.

      The voter suppressions by the GOP by tossing hundreds of thousands of legitimate voter registrations in the trash to keep a certain segment from voting by far outweighs a few bogus registrations who would not have been able to even cast a vote with them, there’s a much better chance McCain will be stealing the presidency in ’08 just like his old buddy Bush did in ’04.

    21. Mr. Bridge to Nowhere McCain / Palin on October 22nd, 2008 2:42 pm

      I’m agreeing with caesu.

      Republicans cast out how many votes? How do you think Bush ever won the election? You may try to link ACORN to Obama, but look into what republians have done in the past before you make all of your judegements. I don’t care what side of the fence you’re on….I think they BOTH have done wrong.

    22. txchic on October 22nd, 2008 3:31 pm

      i have to say that my worry is the lack of concern that obama is showing over registration fraud. if he had an ounce of responsibility obama would be offering up any & all correspondence between his campaign & acorn.

      this will turn out to be another watergate type scandal when it’s over. nutter-gate.

    23. Fox Fire on October 22nd, 2008 5:46 pm

      I agree with Caesu, and Mr. Bridge, too.

      All this talk about voter fraud is linked to the FACT that Junior didn’t really win. How many times has that happened? One can only guess. But, there is no doubt in my mind that we will all be better off without a crook in the White House.

      So say, “Bye, Bye”, Junior….

      We’re ALL going to be better off, without YOU!


      In the spirit of fairness, may the best man win.


    24. Fox Fire on October 22nd, 2008 6:07 pm


      Super Dave:

      You need to quit smoking the pipe and speaking out of your back-end about prostitutes and crimes that didn’t happen. May I suggest you try blogging for the Great White Hope, deep in the corrupt heart of Mississippi, aka… KKK! There is nothing SUPER about you and I, for one, am not afraid of your bloody sheets or your fake mustache…. Frankly, you can stick them, both, where the sun don’t shine. Besides, we couldn’t, even, raise a dime for a date with you… unless, Brie feels lucky!?


      You know you’re a red-necked racist,

      when you think the sh!t that comes out of his laptop

      is funny!


      Banana Barf!


    25. ANewGirl on October 22nd, 2008 6:33 pm

      #13-MBS- Yes, I thought so, too. I posted it in it’s entirety b/c so much of it really rang true. Now, only if the “hypnotized” would pay attention to the crux of it- McCain may just have a chance of winning next month.

      All we can do is hope that stronger, smarter minds will look past all the static–and that pure & simple common sense will ultimately prevail.

      ***McCain/Palin ’08***

    26. ANewGirl on October 22nd, 2008 6:40 pm

      #16- Truth- Thank you for the compliment & you are most welcome.

      #19- Michelle – LOL!! It appears as if Ceasu and Yoyo Muffintop have been sharing that crack pipe together, apparently. It’s very addictive, but eventually- when the haze clears up- they will both crash and burn when the REALITY of the “Chosen One” hits them right smack in the face!

      I hope that day comes.

      ***McCain/Palin ’08***

    27. caesu on October 22nd, 2008 7:23 pm

      #26 ANewGirl

      “when the REALITY of the “Chosen One” hits them”
      “I hope that day comes.”

      you want Obama to win now? :)

    28. ANewGirl on October 22nd, 2008 7:43 pm

      #27- Ceasu—at the risk of sounding really rude…why can’t you and YOYO read?????

      Read it again. What I hope to see as far as “thatday coming” is that slap in the face called REALITY if your man gets in and many of these things we have been predicting come true. I hate to say it- but I do fear—(yes, fear) that McCain is going to lose! -

      I am not the first to think or say this- but immediately- I do forsee some assasination attempts if Obama is our new Commander in Chief. First thing I also see is-when the glow and aftermath and all the big parties are over—-I see tragic mistakes being made and many of the things (financially, military, policy-wise, etc) Obama has pined for having a negative trickle-down affect overall on us as Americans.

      But, re-read the post—I hope the day comes I can be told that I am wrong on some of this. Truly, as a human being- I would wish no harm upon Barack Obama. IMO, I just believe we are going to be PUT AT RISK, and be in MORE TROUBLE than we are now with Obama in Office.

      Putin, etc—–they are all just WAITING. With baited breath. You mark our words and those very same words of Joe Biden- something bad is going to happen—I just feel it. I don’t feed into hysterics easily or the chicken little” Oh, My —the sky is falling!” theme… But–I cannot explain it- I simply have a bad feeling in my gut.

      Ceasu-Can’t you at least credit the Bush Administration for not having any other terrorist attacks on our soil since the tragedy of 9/11? I am gravely concerned. I fear we are in for more trouble in 2009. Please, God—do not let this be true……………….

      **McCain/Palin ’08** COUNTRY & EXPERIENCE FIRST

    29. Fox Fire on October 22nd, 2008 8:11 pm

      New Girl?

      Can you understand why many of us refuse to feel the fear? You don’t get it, do you? We have been sold out, ripped off, pimped and given a bad set of goods with a no refund policy. G.W. has lined the pockets of every crook in town and WE have to pay for it. Doesn’t it seem odd that they would tell us that we have to pay it back, to ourselves? WTF does THAT mean?

      $785,000,000,000 is way too much money to just write off as bad judgment… and if it was Obama who benefited, why would George Bush, Jr. be in such a hurry to pay it?

      We’ve been played!


    30. super dave on October 22nd, 2008 8:29 pm

      foxfire : you are so easily riled. how do you know i’m on a laptop? i could be in your backyard right now and you would not even know it.
      i have never been a racist, never attended a klan meeting don’t have but one sheet and it’s red, white, and blue. you might need to get some help sugar befor you blow an obama out your rear end. so you,re admitting that you are actually giving favors for dates ?
      besides, i’ve turned down much better than you and your racist remarks are a total turn off honey. now since you know so much about the klan, run along to your next meeting and burn your self a cross.having some bloody dreams lately dear ?

    31. CC on October 22nd, 2008 8:50 pm

      Don’t hate the player!!! Hate the game because they all paly it. No matter you is elected we are going to have problems!!!!!!

    32. on October 22nd, 2008 10:28 pm

      funny how some of you counter ACORN’s outright voter fraud with the 2000 election. It’s been proven over and over that Bush did win in 2000 and you all just won’t let it go. Hanging chads, pregnant chads – what a crock.

      A few voter registrations? ACORN fraud is rampant in at least 10 states so far. BTW, they used American’s tax dollars to do it and now are in trouble over that. Thank goodness someone is doing something but unfortunately, nothing has been done about the voter fraud.

    33. Ray on October 23rd, 2008 12:21 am

      prediction, there will be RIOTS in the streets if obama does not win. There may a RIOT by his followers if he does win. There is one college where they have a riot evert year when their team loses and a riot when they WIN. I hope I am wrong.

    34. ANewGirl on October 23rd, 2008 5:06 am

      Hi, Fox Fire: Yes, My Friend—I really DO get it. You say:

      We have been sold out, ripped off, pimped and given a bad set of goods with a no refund policy. G.W. has lined the pockets of every crook in town and WE have to pay for it. Doesn’t it seem odd that they would tell us that we have to pay it back, to ourselves? WTF does THAT mean?

      To which I address a few simple things.

      1. I too, feel all the sentiments of the above paragraph. Let’s be honest—you can’t find many Americans who aren’t FED UP and as that old Movie Network’s slogan used to be: WE’RE MAD AS HELL AND WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE! That is EXACTLY how I feel. Everything you say is true.

      I do not profess to be any kind of a political expert, by far. I am just your average- very hard working, middle class, small business owner living here in Boston…watching the world crash down around us. My husband and I, sit around night after night watching the evening news and shaking our heads in disgust. Like millions of other Americans- my husband ALONE has lost well over 100k in his 401k the past 9 months. Yes! 100,000 of his hard earned retirement money and we are beyond pissed off and disgusted about it!!!

      BUT- for you or anyone to place all the blame for the latest financial crisis solely at the hands of the Republicans and GWB—that is unfair. Come on, Fire—-who is ruling our Congress by majority right now-DEMS !!!!!!!!!!! Who was on the Ways & Means Finance Committee who is supposed to OVERSEE and GOVERN/REGULATE these types of scandals in the Government—BARNEY FRANK THAT IDIOTIC FOOL !!!!!!!! The very same Man who had the audacity to go before the people a few weeks ago and claim—”I am for the underprivileged and lower income class of this Nation—if it wasn’t for them—I wouldn’t have a job!” Frank- you are a TOOL. Now, thanks to YOU and many of your constituents—MANY AMERICANS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS MAY NOT OR DO NOT HAVE JOBS NOW! So, Frank can take his lame reasoning and stick it somewhere comfy for him, anyway. Pffffffffffff

      I won’t go on and on as my posts are way too lengthy lately- Fire—but the main point I am trying to get across is I believe- the blame for this mess should be shared EQUALLY for all of these officials in office across BOTH SIDES OF THE BOARD. THE ENTIRE GOVERNMENT- BOTH DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN HAVE FAILED US. Yes, they have.

      Has GWB done a great job as President? Let history be the judge. I would venture to say he has not been the best President, but- yes—there have been far worse. We are all angry about the War—it is coming to an end. I don’t want to speak about whether or not we should have gotten in to it in the first place…here is what I remember….. As a middle-aged Adult with 2 children under age 10 at the time—I remember SEPTEMBER 11, 2001! Like everyone else. In the 60′s…my parents will never forget the day JFK was assasinated. For me, 9/11 will not ever go away. I lost 2 friends (like millions of other Americans) that day who happened to work in those buildings. I lost my faith in many things that day. I ran to school in a panic, hoping my children were ok. Since they were only in Elementary School at the time- the School Administration thought it unnecessary to panic them and not even tell them of the event, and release them from School that day normally- just like any other. Let me tell you- the night of 9/11 is one I won’t ever forget. Yes, I was afraid—-very afraid—-one of those fully fueled planes had left from Logan Airport. I thought–Oh, My God—we are so vulnerable. I thought, Oh My God–all those innocent people dead at the hands of terrorists! I never thought I would live to see the day when a Nation as good and as strong as ours could be attacked like that. It was a wake up call. Terrorisim is not going away anytime soon. It exists everywhere worldwide—and just b/c Osama Bin Laden has been successful at hiding in the remote mountains of Pakistan since then and moving all around—do you REALLY think we have heard the last of him and Al-Qieda? (sp) Hell, no we haven’t.

      That night, Fox- I looked at my sleeping children in their beds- and I knew–our whole world had changed. Forever. These are different times we are living in. I kissed their little heads, and I know I was so caught up in emotion, that I didn’t even realize the tears streaming down my face. All I know- is that when I listened to my President, GWB over the next few days—I felt better. I felt safer. I liked how he took immediate action to protect us and made long overdue changes by forming the Dept. of Homeland Security. The only reason I tell this story is to illustrate that…..I know that—


      I hate War. Who doesn’t? I hate the way our Government spends and spends and spends but doesn’d do enough for our own poor,homeless and needy. If I had all day- I could list a million things I am ANGRY at about the way our Government messes up—again and again and again!

      I am just trying to say—please—let’s not FORGET 9/11! It was only 7 years ago—-and across the globe–our enemies are watching our every move. They have been planning- and will continue to plan their next strike. Putin is evil. He is a real threat…… much to think about. In addition- our economy is tanking and we are ALL, yes we are ALL the victims.

      I know in my heart-we didn’t have the very best choices for candidates this year—but—it is what it is. And, I know in my heart- that I want my children to have a bright future. Will my family even be able to afford to pay for a decent College education for them? Will we even be able to retire now at 50, not 65 like we planned? Doubtful if this keeps up.

      All I am saying is—— Pick the best person suitable for the job in THESE TIMES.

      Stop feeding into the media frenzy of hate, FEAR as you say- and touting Obama as the chosen one because he is intelligent enough (like millions of other Americans) to realize—we do need MANY changes. So! Just by the fact that a REP has been in office for 8 years makes you instantly want to elect a DEM even THOUGH HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO DO THE JOB????? I don’t care about Biden’s experience—he is not running for President. We should care though, because I believe-there is so much tension and resentment surrounding this election year- that someone or some group will attempt to take the life of Barack Obama. As I said previously, I do not wish this man or his family any harm. I do not want any FURTHER harm to come to my family either.

      With that statement, Fox–I leave you my final thought. Common sense tells me that I must elect the individuals I believe is most capable of being the BEST LEADER of this Country. My gut tells me that, at this time- that man is John McCain.

      Thanks for tolerating this long winded post….just wanted you to know that YES! I do get it. Completely.

      ***McCain/Palin ’08** COUNTRY FIRST

    35. Fox Fire on October 23rd, 2008 1:06 pm

      New Girl:

      How could I, possibly, do anything but agree with you. You speak from the heart to the heart of every man, woman and child that is intelligent enough to understand the fear that comes from being attacked on our own turf by some ‘hate’ group that were willing to give their lives for the chance of killing innocent, unsuspecting Americans. I agree with everything you said…. and no doubt the courage of this nation is going to be tested, if not through acts of terrorism; then, through acts of greed. We have become our own worst enemy and while I stand in agreement that any and all those responsible should be arrested, tried and sentenced to prison time as well as stiff penalties… even that would not be good enough.

      We have all worked hard to get what we have, under the premise that the money we saved for our future would be safe and secure. We, truly, have been betrayed. To say that it’s George Bush’s fault is not, totally, fair. But he has been in office for, nearly eight years and has ignored all the signs that pointed toward financial ruin. In my opinion, he had his own ax to grind… a personal vendetta against those that threatened him and his family after the Gulf war. In my opinion, he failed his responsibility to protect the American people by being so overcome by his own hatred for a race of people that had, very little, to do with a group of people that had made his father look weak and unresolved. He left it to a small group of unarmed men to go up against his enemy and, as a result, countless innocent people lost their lives, their loved ones and their homeland. To have left the people of Iraq in a state of refuge was a huge mistake and it was Juniors, primary purpose to become president and undo the mistakes.

      We all know that what is done is in the past. We can’t live in a state of regret over mistakes that are made in the past, we have to move forward. But GWB, Jr. had never learned that lesson. As a result, no one was tending to the hen house and those that did, were ignored. Junior had taken on so many complaints that, quite frankly, I don’t think that he wanted to deal with ANYTHING, nor was he capable of dealing with everything. He ran our government in secret, covering over the mistakes, just as he had done for his father.

      The reason that I think Obama will be an improvement over McCain is, simply, because he is not a military man who, firmly, believes he knows what this nation needs. He is advised. He surrounds himself with people, who’s job it is to find the facts and he prepares a response. He has not made it a secret that he is receiving advise when it comes to certain branches of government. Nor is he withholding the secret of his own humanity. Unlike GWB or McCain, he spends more time listening than talking. He has made it evident that he wants to do what is right by the people… while at the same time, admitting that he’s not an expert on every aspect of the job he is seeking.

      After what has happened over the last eight years… after seeing how the people are made to suffer in a government that is ran in secret; I am more impressed with a humble man, with a keen mind whose job it is to make educated responses to the many problems that face our great nation… not just that of the military. And, you know me, I listen and I watch people and from what I see, I form my opinion. McCain wants to keep us in darkness, as he secretly whispers his opinions when it comes to the safety of the public. Is that what you want? Do you want to stay in the dark, feeling protected while decisions are made in secret that effect your life and those of your children? I don’t. I want to stay awake. Being aware of the things that are going on around me so I can better make the personal decisions that, ultimately, effect my own security and that of my family.

      I want to be informed of the dangers that lurk out there that substantially effect the future of my children and I don’t think we are going to have that liberty with a government that performs its’ duties, in secret.


      I hope that I will always be your friend and I hope that the next four years will bring back the faith and trust that we have lost in our elected officials. And, in my opinion, it will take more than one ‘great’ man to protect our right to liberty and to keep us safe.

      Thank you for asking for my opinion. I hope it doesn’t get chewed apart in one’s attempt to make himself appear smarter, wiser and more qualified because, I, just like you am speaking from the heart.


    36. ANewGirl on October 24th, 2008 4:26 pm

      #35- Fox Fire—Of course I read with compassion all of your words as well that do come from your heart.

      I understand your reasoning for making your selection. Again, not to keep harping—but I AGREE! Change is a good thing. In my mind, my story and I am sticking to it! is that…..

      INEXPERIENCE is NOT a good thing. That’s all. I laugh when some of these poster actually have the stupidity to call S. Palin INEXPERIENCED! ARE YOU SERIOUS! She has MORE EXECUTIVE AND POLITICAL EXPERIENCE OVERALL THAN OBAMA’s LESS THAN 2 YEARS AS A US SENATOR! How can anyone say that when the candidate they are touting for and comparing to JFK—HAS EVEN LESS (much less) ACTUAL experience than JFK had before elected. JFK had over 13 years as a US SENATOR—again–OBAMA- less than 2 before he hit the campaign trail. Keeping it this simple…what is there NOT TO SEE BUT inexperience!

      Ok, My Friend—what I do so much admire about you is that we do, indeed share a personality trait in common…we are fiercely independent thinking women who stick to our beliefs and our guns and do not waiver! It’s okay that those beliefs may be different—our mutual respect for eachother is key.

      Thanks for such a thoughtful response.

      =) New Girl from Boston

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