Pot & Kettle: Here is Your Candidate of Change … Barack Obama Lashes Out Against Activist Pastors

 

Barack Obama, a typical politician. Obama’s real message is not one of hope and change, but rather one of  … do as I say, not as I do.

Barack Obama sat through 20 years of sermons at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago and listened to Reverend Jeremiah Wright and didn’t think that is was “screed”? Talk about a convenient memory.

Isn’t this priceless. Long before the world knew about Reverend Jeremiah Wright and the 20 years of Barack Obama attending the racially and politically charged sermons, Obama was lashed out at activist pastors who offer more “screed than sermon.” Of course this was in 2006. Flash forward to 2008.

What exactly would he call what Reverend Wright was doing? But that’s different, because it has to do with Barack Obama and he has a separate set of rules. However, once the world found out about Reverend Wright and his sermons, Obama found it politically expedient to leave the church and cast Wright under the bus.

Barack Obama in 2006 sermon (tape): “No matter how religious they may or may not be, people are tired of seeing faith used as a tool of attack. They don’t want faith used to belittle or to divide. They’re tired of hearing folks deliver more screed than sermon. Because in the end, that’s not how they think about faith in their own lives.”

 Dr. Dobson Thumps Barack Obama For Distorting Bible

James Dobson says Barack Obama is distorting bibical teachings to fit “his own confused theology.”

I think he’s deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology,” Dobson said, adding that Obama is “dragging biblical understanding through the gutter.”

Obama’s reply is that Dobson is making the stuff up. Really? From the video above, it appears that it is Barack Obama who has trouble keeping his stories correct and have a revisionist history.



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  • Comments

    43 Responses to “Pot & Kettle: Here is Your Candidate of Change … Barack Obama Lashes Out Against Activist Pastors”

    1. brenda on June 25th, 2008 6:54 am

      Every photo of Obamanation I have seen make him appear to darn “smug” and “full of himself”. He is NOT a leader. As with Bill Clinton, Obamanation’s wife is the strong/brains of the pair, so if those voting for Obamanation want another crazy, ranting, witch in the White House…go for the democratic ticket and say goodbye to America as we know it.

    2. caesu on June 25th, 2008 9:36 am

      i think this reverend/pastor story is getting a bit old now.
      can’t the baracknophobics make something new up?

    3. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 10:07 am

      BARACK OBAMA: “MY PASTOR, COUNSELLOR, FRIEND AND GREAT LEADER”
      June 5, 2007
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpzHQ_PC1uI&feature=related

      +++++++++++++++++

      Best of Jeremiah Wright’s Sermons Pt. 1
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk

      Best of Jeremiah Wright’s Sermons Pt. 2
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaNBzU6iryo

    4. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 10:36 am

      Christianity as it’s understood by Dr. Dobson:

      -Blessed are the rich, for they shall wield power.
      -Blessed are the powerful, for they shall judge.
      -Blessed are the judgmental, for they get to make the rules.
      -Blessed are the rule makers, for they shall make war.
      -Blessed are the war makers, for they shall lead us to torture.
      -Blessed are the torturers, for they shall gain intelligence.
      -Blessed are those with intelligence, for they shall instill fear.
      -Blessed are those who instill fear, for they shall love lying.
      -Blessed are the liars, for they shall fuel hatred.
      -Blessed are the haters, for, by selling their message to the meek, stupid, poor and ignorant they shall be made rich.

      I’ve read many stories on the internet that Dr Dobson sniffs coke off male prositutes a@#es. Or he was associated with someone who did…therefore…he did.

      btw – Obama was witnessed this morning eating Bald Eagle eggs for breakfast while wearing a turban and looking over his blueprints for the Mosque he plans to build on the White House lawn.

    5. tuyvnsurvivor on June 25th, 2008 10:51 am

      For years I disliked the Paul Harvey like speeking voice…reverant, wise, if you do not believe like me your a dope, trying to make positives belong only to his wishes.

      And to me this is where I find Obama so scrary, he is exceedingly good at this sort of presentation, with smooth delivery and no professional experience. Obama is programed wrong as an amateur his motives demand question.

      Coming from not a cent from anyone to a decent success in businesses, here is also one of my concerns of Obama. Can anyone have any doubt Obama working for any ordinary business would have the bluff and snooker skills to convence all to hear him he should be running the business? And can there be any doubt he would make a disaster of doing so…not being an independant thinker, no experience, his skills only those of words. Far too often this is what we vote for as politicians, Obama takes the bad parts of politicians we already fell for to — much higher levels of deciet.

    6. Rusty Bridges on June 25th, 2008 10:55 am

      “i think this reverend/pastor story is getting a bit old now.”

      He brought it up.

      “can’t the” barackenomicophobes “make something new up?”

      Fixed it for ‘ya. Your welcome.

    7. Rusty Bridges on June 25th, 2008 10:57 am

      yoyo, now you believe what you read on the ‘net?

    8. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 10:58 am

      SM … the entire speech is on an Obama website. If you want to read it or save it … do it now. I have a feeling it is going to go “poof”.

      What a hypocrite! Obviously … Barack Obama was very naive in this period in time. He honestly thought that he could undermine Evangelical leaders for their political messages from the pulpit but … the anti-American, racist, anti-Israel rhetoric of Jeremiah Wright … his pastor of over twenty years … would not be exposed.

      ++++++++++

      ‘Call to Renewal’ Keynote Address
      Wednesday, June 28, 2006
      Printable FormatWashington, DC

      No matter how religious they may or may not be, people are tired of seeing faith used as a tool of attack. They don’t want faith used to belittle or to divide. They’re tired of hearing folks deliver more screed than sermon. Because in the end, that’s not how they think about faith in their own lives.

      http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/

    9. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 11:04 am

      Janet,
      Since you are Canadian I thought you might be able to answer.
      Leviticus 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.
      Now a friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
      Why can’t I own Canadians?

    10. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 11:05 am

      4. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 10:36 am
      Christianity as it’s understood by Dr. Dobson:

      -Blessed are the rich, for they shall wield power.
      -Blessed are the powerful, for they shall judge.
      -Blessed are the judgmental, for they get to make the rules.
      -Blessed are the rule makers, for they shall make war.
      -Blessed are the war makers, for they shall lead us to torture.
      -Blessed are the torturers, for they shall gain intelligence.
      -Blessed are those with intelligence, for they shall instill fear.
      -Blessed are those who instill fear, for they shall love lying.
      -Blessed are the liars, for they shall fuel hatred.
      -Blessed are the haters, for, by selling their message to the meek, stupid, poor and ignorant they shall be made rich.

      I’ve read many stories on the internet that Dr Dobson sniffs coke off male prositutes a@#es. Or he was associated with someone who did…therefore…he did.

      btw – Obama was witnessed this morning eating Bald Eagle eggs for breakfast while wearing a turban and looking over his blueprints for the Mosque he plans to build on the White House lawn.

      ++++++++++++

      LINK PLEASE!!!

      yoyo … the above can be considered a complete defamation of character without any credible backup.

      I have followed Dr. Dobson’s ministry FOCUS ON THE FAMILY for years and … I uphold all he stands for.

      I consider your words despicable.

    11. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 11:39 am

      9. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 11:04 am

      Janet,
      Since you are Canadian I thought you might be able to answer.

      Leviticus 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.

      Now a friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?

      Why can’t I own Canadians?

      ++++++++++

      You are assuming that the word of your racist’s friend is gospel. It is not Scripture that differentiates between Canadians and Mexicans.

      Hey … think about it. Canadians only have one neighbour. Watch out yoyo. LOL

      Considering the ownership of slaves is illegal in both your country and mine … I have never looked into this Biblical topic but … I plan to and will get back to you.

      Janet

    12. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 1:33 pm

      Janet – here’s your link:
      http://tinyurl.com/y95wo9

      Oh, and then Dobson was going to “cure” Haggard of his homosexuality…but he didn’t have time:
      “Emotionally and spiritually, I wanted to be of help — but the reality is I don’t have the time to devote to such a critical responsibility,” Dobson said in a statement.

      Dobson’s overriding focus was Haggard’s sin of homosexuality. Talk about “screwed” up. Dobson was so self-righteously focused and narcissistically centered on the homosexuality aspect, that the offense toward God and the people of God through the YEARS of lying, deception, theft bypassed Dobson’s focus. Just the singular offense of homosexuality is the dread of Dobson. Yes, according to Dobson, it is a sin. But if one is measuring the gravity of sin…do you have any idea how many people Haggard lied to repeatedly, stole from, cheated, hustled? Not to mention God. Never mind the secret sex sin. Haggard’s problems were far greater and far more extensive than homosexuality and Dobson did a disservice for Christianity and conservatives when he covered for Haggard, blamed others and then focused on the sexual sin as the most serious concern and minimized the grand thefts, lies, cheating and deception by Haggard.

      Haggard lied/cheated/stole from 30 million people (the number Haggard bragged he represented as head of the National Association of Evangelicals) yet Dobson’s focus was treatment for Haggard’s homosexuality?
      That, imo, would make him a very poor representative of biblical theology, philosophy and practice.

    13. dave on June 25th, 2008 3:00 pm

      Hey Folks,

      Please dont feed the TROLL yoyo crap4brains

    14. bob on June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm

      Tamikosmom,

      Yoyo is right about Dobson. Dobson is a Marxist and an enemy of true Christians. Dobson is just as evil as Obama–if not more so.

    15. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 4:00 pm

      I’m sorry dave, I apologize. I forgot that was you that had that “relationship” with Mr Haggard.
      I hope I didn’t offend – I know it must have been a crazy time for you back in ’06.
      I know you are trying to put that behind you now and might have stung when it was brought back up.
      Sorry.

    16. brie. on June 25th, 2008 4:06 pm

      #14..I think you need between the lines….

    17. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 4:10 pm

      4. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 10:36 am

      I’ve read many stories on the internet that Dr Dobson sniffs coke off male prositutes a@#es. Or he was associated with someone who did…therefore…he did.

      +++++++++

      BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

      yoyo … the link you provided stated that Dr. Dobson did not condon the adulterous actions of Haggard but … still consider him a friend.

      In other words … love the sinner while hating the sin.

      There was NOTHING that undermine the character of Dr. Dobson.

      yoyo … I will not dialogue with you anymore. UNFOUND accusations against a man … who has never had a “hidden” agenda regarding the principles and values he beliefs in … principle and values he upholds … devoted his entire life to … is going beyond a difference of opinion.

      Janet
      ___________

      Church forces out Haggard for ‘sexually immoral conduct’
      POSTED: 10:24 p.m. EST, November 4, 2006

      Dobson:

      “The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to us and to millions of others,” Dobson said.

      “He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove accurate,” he continued. “Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or heterosexual, has serious consequences.”

      http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html

    18. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 4:19 pm

      14. bob on June 25th, 2008 3:56 pm
      Tamikosmom,

      Yoyo is right about Dobson. Dobson is a Marxist and an enemy of true Christians. Dobson is just as evil as Obama–if not more so.

      ++++++++++

      SM … I refuse to participate in a forum that allows characters to be undermined/assassinated WITHOUT CREDIBLE BACKUP.

      I am done!

      Janet

    19. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 4:52 pm

      IN DEFENCE OF JAMES DOBSON – FOCUS ON THE FAMILY

      Dobson to Attack Obama Tuesday for Distorting the Bible, Having a “Fruitcake” Interpretation of the Constitution
      June 23, 2008 9:35 PM

      Dobson responds, per the AP, that “I think he’s deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own worldview, HIS OWN CONFUSED THEOLOGY” and charges that Obama “is dragging Biblical understanding through the gutter”

      http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/dobson-to-attac.html

      +++++++++

      BACKUP – BARACK OBAMA’S “OWN CONFUSED THEOLOGY”

      The ministry at TUCC … Barack Obama’s church for over twenty years … has a foundation rooted in the Black Theology, anti-American, racist, anti-Israel ideology of James Cone.
      __________

      THE VISION STATEMENT OF TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST (TUCC)

      … “The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.”

      http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm

      +++++++++++

      The Marxist Roots of Black Liberation Theology
      April 2, 2008

      While Black Liberation Theology is not main stream in most black churches, many pastors in Wright’s generation are burdened by (James) Cone’s categories which laid the foundation for many to embrace Marxism and a distorted self-image of the perpetual “victim.”

      … In FOR MY PEOPLE, Cone explains that “the Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the structure of capitalism. Marxism as a tool of social analysis can disclose the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see how things really are.”

      More:
      http://www.acton.org/commentary/443_marxist_roots_of_black_liberation_theology.php

      +++++++++++

      QUOTES – “BLACK POWER & BLACK THEOLOGY”

      “Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants.” James Cone

      “Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community.” James Cone

      “Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.” James Cone

      “In the New Testament, Jesus is not for all, but for the oppressed, the poor and unwanted of society, and against oppressors … Either God is for black people in their fight for liberation and against the white oppressors, or he is not.” James Cone

    20. bob on June 25th, 2008 7:39 pm

      Tamikosmom,

      You said the following regarding my statement that Dobson is a Marxist: “SM … I refuse to participate in a forum that allows characters to be undermined/assassinated WITHOUT CREDIBLE BACKUP.” If you want credible backup, then why not simply ask me for it? I can back up everything I say. I will now give the evidence for what I said assuming you aren’t done here.

      Focus on the Family, the org that the psychologist, Dobson, heads, is a non-governmental org (NGO) listed with the UN’s Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC). This can be seen by going to http://www.un.og.ch and going to the NGO section. You will see FOTF on the long list. They have special consultative status with the UN.

      All UN-NGO’s are dedicated to the UN Marxist, one-world, agenda. The UN is out to, as they say, prepare the world for the coming of the “Christ” (which is the anti-christ). Dobson is on board fully with the UN anti-Christ agenda and there is your proof.

    21. bob on June 25th, 2008 7:52 pm

      tamikosmom,

      Allow me to make another point regarding Focus on the Family. You naively believe Dobson is a Christian. Have you ever wondered why his org is called Focus on the Family? A true Christian leader would “Focus on Jesus Christ.” The reason he wants you to focus on a family is because everyone has a family and so everyone has this “common ground.” Dobson, a socio-psychologist (a meshing of socialism with psychology), wants “diversity” to set aside their differences and focus on what they all have in common which is the family. Ultimately, Dobson doesn’t care in the slightest about anyone’s family. His purpose is to create an “ecumenism” that a shared focus on the family brings about. This is diversity unifying or diversity in unity. “Can all the diverse positions in the group agree that family is important?” This is Marxism 101.

      Dobson is in bed with Catholics, Mormons and even Moslems. He is about bringing all religions together under Satan’s rule.

    22. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 8:03 pm

      Bob … I understand where you are coming from and you have it all wrong.

      As a Christian I acknowledge the one world Marist agenda of the UN … it is Scriptually based but … believe me my ideology is right of center on the political scale.

      Many Christian equate the one world Marxist agenda as a sign of the ushering in of the anti-Christ but it … does not imply they embrace it. Evangelical Christian … for the most part … work very hard within the political system … UN too … to prolong this eventuality. This is the reason that most are politically conservative … James Dobson as well.

      Janet

    23. Tamikosmom on June 25th, 2008 8:19 pm

      Bob … James Dobson’s ministry focuses on the family in much the same way that another ministry may focus on the unborn child … another may focus on homosexuality. These ministry are meant to further Biblical concepts and … therefore honor our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

      James Dobson’s definition of the family is very fundamental and … therefore he is not attempting to further “ecumenism”.

      Think about it. James Dobson would not be opposing Barack Obama in the issues at hand … he would be upholding him … if a Marxist agenda was his objective.

      Sincerely, Janet

    24. yoyo muffintop on June 25th, 2008 9:32 pm

      “Some strong-willed children absolutely demand to be spanked, and their wishes should be granted. . . [T]wo or three stinging strokes on the legs or buttocks with a switch are usually sufficient to emphasize the point, ‘You must obey me.’”
      James Dobson “The Strong-Willed Child”, pg 53-4.

      well…isn’t that nice. hit your kid with a stick.
      ———————————-
      oh, and here’s a better one:
      Question: Has God withdrawn His protective hand from the US?”
      James Dobson responds: “Christians have made arguments on both sides of this question. I certainly believe that God is displeased with America for its pride and arrogance, for killing 40 million unborn babies, for the universality of profanity and for other forms of immorality. However, rather than trying to forge a direct cause-and-effect relationship between the terrorist attacks and America’s abandonment of biblical principles, which I think is wrong, we need to accept the truth that this nation will suffer in many ways for departing from the principles of righteousness. “The wages of sin is death,” as it says in Romans 6, both for individuals and for entire cultures. ”
      source: Focus on the Family website
      Oh, we brought 9/11 upon ourselves? Got it Mr Dobson.

      —————-
      Jim expressed an even more overt attitude of sexism on those numerous occasions when he would be talking a stream of consciousness with those of us close to him, about the relative difficulty of the work day for someone like him compared to a housewife. His public statements of reverence for homemakers notwithstanding, Jim expressed candidly his belief that women whose sole responsibility was to care for children and a home had an easy life, and that their day’s work was not to be compared to the rigors of an executive like himself. “How hard can it be, guys,” he would say, “to make a shopping list, to go to the grocery store, and fix a meal?” The speed at which he had to work and the tremendous weight of the responsibility he had to carry would, in his view, crush the typical woman.” pp 148-149

      “In studying Dobson one realizes that his public praise of women is actually praise of a certain stereotypical woman whom Jim wants to reward for her subservience.” p. 150

      “My wife has often remarked that you can tell a lot about people’s value system by how the person shares power. If you see someone at ease with the sharing of power between the sexes you are probably viewing someone who is able to see both of God’s children, man and woman, as equal. If you see someone who distributes corporate power primarily to men and whose marriage revolves primarily around his own goals and purposes, you may well be looking at a sexist.” p. 151

      This guy sure respects women. From Gil Alexander-Moegerle’s book “James Dobson’s War on America”. Gil was the Co-Founder & Sr VP of Focus on the Family.

      There’s more…

    25. bob on June 25th, 2008 11:05 pm

      Tamikosmom,

      You have no idea what you are talking about. First, to be a UN-NGO, like FOTF, is akin to being a capo in the mob. It doesn’t happen by accident. It takes years of dedication to the UN agenda to even be considered. Dobson is a Marxist 100% on board with the UN agenda. Check out the criteria for being a un-ngo. There are NO evangelical Christians working within the UN system to “prolong the eventuality of the anti-christ” as you so naively and ignorantly claim.

      You naively believe that if Dobson was a Marxist, then he would be “upholding” Obama and not opposing him. You fail to understand something all Marxists are well aware of called the dialectic process. The MO of the powers-that-be is to always create a “controlled opposition” to their agenda. If their agenda is abortion, then THEY create the opposition which is FOTF. This dialectic process serves to dupe people like you into believing that someone is out there fighting your fight, like Dobson, and so you become apathetic. Dobson is a communist who plays the role of a conservative in the dialectic process. I KNOW ABOUT DOBSON and so do many other true Christians. Dobson has been a change agent since before Obama could even read.

    26. caesu on June 26th, 2008 9:23 am

      Dobson is such a fraud.
      he himself uses Leviticus for his gay bashing.

      so Obama has a perfectly valid point

    27. Tamikosmom on June 26th, 2008 11:45 am

      Bob

      Two couples from our church as well as my youngest son’s good friend are afflicated with the local Focus on the Family Canada ministry. I have forwarded the information you submitted to all of them and … considering they have personal contact with James Dobson … a response will be forthcoming.

      Janet

    28. Tamikosmom on June 26th, 2008 11:56 am

      26. caesu on June 26th, 2008 9:23 am

      Dobson is such a fraud.
      he himself uses Leviticus for his gay bashing.

      so Obama has a perfectly valid point

      +++++++++

      caesu … I contend that James Dobson is not a fraud. He very open on his positions regarding very controversial topics of today.

      It is my firm conviction that it is Barack Obama who is a fraud. He is Marxist campaigning for the highest office in the land as a Democract.

      Please provide a link where James Dobson bashes gays. Dobson may believe based on Scripture that homosexuality is wrong but … he certainly does not bash gays.

      Janet

      ++++++++

      Church forces out Haggard for ’sexually immoral conduct’
      POSTED: 10:24 p.m. EST, November 4, 2006

      Dobson:

      “The possibility that an illicit relationship has occurred is alarming to us and to millions of others,” Dobson said.

      “He will continue to be my friend, even if the worst allegations prove accurate,” he continued. “Nevertheless, sexual sin, whether homosexual or heterosexual, has serious consequences.”

      http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html

    29. bob on June 26th, 2008 12:59 pm

      Tamikosmom,

      ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO http://WWW.UN.OG.CH TO SEE FOTF IS AN NGO WITH SPECIAL CONSULTATIVE STATUS WITH THE UN. NO ONE CAN ARGUE AGAINST THAT OR JUSTIFY THAT. IT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION. CASE CLOSED!! WHY DO YOU THINK DOBSON KEEPS THIS FACT A SECRET?

    30. caesu on June 26th, 2008 1:09 pm

      #28 Tamikosmom

      “Dobson may believe based on Scripture that homosexuality is wrong”

      so why does he say that Obama should not be referencing antiquated dietary codes and passages from the Old Testament that are no longer relevant to the teachings of the New Testament.

      http://www.jamesdobsondoesntspeakforme.com/

      he also compared gay marriage to slavery.

      http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/28/dobson.gaymarriage/index.html

      if he doesn’t approve of gay marriage.
      only thing he has to do is not marry to a man.

      anyway i believe that whatever a reverend says doesn’t have anything to do with politics.
      Obama has already dumped his reverend and left his church.

      Dobson might have done Obama a huge favour actually.

    31. Tamikosmom on June 26th, 2008 2:01 pm

      caesu … you may not agree with James Dobson’s postion on controversial issues but … you know exactly where he stands. He is not a fraud and … he is not deceptive.

      Janet

    32. yoyo muffintop on June 26th, 2008 9:32 pm

      “Please don’t misunderstand me. Siggie is a member of our family and we love him dearly. And despite his anarchistic nature, I have finally taught him to obey a few simple commands. However, we had some classic battles before he reluctantly yielded to my authority.

      “The greatest confrontation occurred a few years ago when I had been in Miami for a three-day conference. I returned to observe that Siggie had become boss of the house while I was gone. But I didn’t realize until later that evening just how strongly he felt about his new position as Captain.

      “At eleven o’clock that night, I told Siggie to go get into his bed, which is a permanent enclosure in the family room. For six years I had given him that order at the end of each day, and for six years Siggie had obeyed.

      “On this occasion, however, he refused to budge. You see, he was in the bathroom, seated comfortably on the furry lid of the toilet seat. That is his favorite spot in the house, because it allows him to bask in the warmth of a nearby electric heater…”

      “When I told Sigmund to leave his warm seat and go to bed, he flattened his ears and slowly turned his head toward me. He deliberately braced himself by placing one paw on the edge of the furry lid, then hunched his shoulders, raised his lips to reveal the molars on both sides, and uttered his most threatening growl. That was Siggie’s way of saying. “Get lost!”

      “I had seen this defiant mood before, and knew there was only one way to deal with it. The only way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. Nothing else works. I turned and went to my closet and got a small belt to help me “reason” with Mr. Freud.”

      What developed next is impossible to describe. That tiny dog and I had the most vicious fight ever staged between man and beast. I fought him up one wall and down the other, with both of us scratching and clawing and growling and swinging the belt. I am embarrassed by the memory of the entire scene. Inch by inch I moved him toward the family room and his bed. As a final desperate maneuver, Siggie backed into the corner for one last snarling stand. I eventually got him to bed, only because I outweighed him 200 to 12!” — “The Strong Willed Child” by James Dobson.

      I would not take Mr. Dobson’s advice on anything, especially that involving the gospel, and certainly that of rearing a child. His disgusting display over beating his dog to ‘gain the upper hand’ and control is simply sick. Not to mention the fact that he advocates beating children.
      Disgusting.

    33. yoyo muffintop on June 26th, 2008 11:07 pm

      #31 Janet: “He is not a fraud and … he is not deceptive.”
      Larry King 2002:
      KING: … then those people on 9/11 are in a better place. The people saddened are the people left, right?

      DOBSON: Yes, if they had a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, which is my theology. It’s not enough just to be a good person and then die and go to heaven. There are some conditions and…

      KING: So if they were Jewish, they’re somewhere not in heaven or — Muslim, they’re not in heaven.

      DOBSON: Well, as you know, I’m thankful that I don’t have the responsibility to figure that out.

      KING: But you believe it?

      DOBSON: Well, I believe what the scripture says. And it tells us not to judge one another, leave that up to Him and I do that.

      CALLER: Hi, my question, Dr. Dobson, you mentioned early in the show that the people on September the 11th who died, who didn’t have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, you know, basically didn’t go to heaven. Do you honestly believe that people of different faiths other than Christian, Muslim/Hindu/Jewish faiths, are those people when they die all going to hell?

      DOBSON: I don’t think you heard the second half of my answer, because I was attempting to explain that that would require me to put myself in judgment of everybody around the world. And if you did not conform to my notions, then you’re damned. I don’t know. So I’m thankful that I don’t have to decide that. You know the…

      KING: But it’s what you believe.

      DOBSON: I believe the scripture makes it clear that Jesus Christ came to provide a remedy for sin and to be a savior to those who would believe on His name and that through Him, they would be saved.

      KING: So the next step has to believe that you believe they go some place others don’t.

      DOBSON: Yes, that’s the implication of it, yes. That’s right.

      KING: So the woman is correct in saying that? That’s what you believe?

      DOBSON: Yes.

      That right there is a Deceiver.

      btw, Mr Dobson also believes only 500 Million out of 6.6 Billion people in the world are allowed to go to Heaven.

    34. yoyo muffintop on June 26th, 2008 11:50 pm

      “How hard can it be, guys,” he would say, “to make a shopping list, to go to the grocery store, and fix a meal?” James Dobson quote from Gil Alexander, Co-Founder of Focus on the Family.

      “My observation is that women are merely waiting for their husbands to assume leadership.”
      James Dobson “Straight Talk” pg. 92

      “The primary responsibility for the provision of authority in the home has been assigned to men,”
      James Dobson “Straight Talk” pg. 97

      “Men in Western nations have experienced a severe crisis of identity in recent years, similar to the confusion that their wives have encountered. It has been brought on by persistent challenges to everything traditionally masculine, just as the women’s movement has mocked traditionally female behavior and mores. Masculine leadership, especially, has been ridiculed as ‘macho’ and invariably self-serving.”
      James Dobson “Straight Talk” pg. 97

      “It left its mark before disappearing from the scene, but the general public quickly realized that anger between the sexes and lesbian ideologies, even the Equal Rights Amendment, were not in society’s best interests. Unfortunately, many gullible people were sucked into the web before their eyes were opened. Some are still paying the price for mistakes made during that era.”
      James Dobson “Straight Talk” pg. 186

      If you are a woman, and you are a follower of Mr Dobson, then you are subservient to men.
      How nice…

    35. yoyo muffintop on June 26th, 2008 11:54 pm

      “State universities are breeding grounds, quite literally, for sexually transmitted diseases (including HIV), homosexual behavior, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, alcoholism, and drug abuse.”
      James Dobson, Life on the Edge, p. 233.

      This guy’s nuts

    36. yoyo muffintop on June 27th, 2008 12:21 am

      Osama Bin Laden 10/7/2001:
      “The war against Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden is a war on Islam. This is a new battle, a great battle, similar to the great battles of Islam, like the conquest of Jerusalem. I believe that there is only one God and there is no prophet but Mohammed. America was hit by God in one of its softest spots.”

      James Dobson – Focus on the Family website:
      “I certainly believe that God is displeased with America for its pride and arrogance, for killing 40 million unborn babies, for the universality of profanity and for other forms of immorality. However, rather than trying to forge a direct cause-and-effect relationship between the terrorist attacks and America’s abandonment of biblical principles, which I think is wrong, we need to accept the truth that this nation will suffer in many ways for departing from the principles of righteousness. “The wages of sin is death,” as it says in Romans 6, both for individuals and for entire cultures. ””

      Wow – how scarily similar…

    37. bob on June 27th, 2008 3:55 am

      YoYO,

      Your first example of Dobson, with his dog Siggie, is not a silly or insignificant example. Dobson, an enemy of God and Jesus Christ, is actually a Skinnerian behavioral psychologist, who, believing that people don’t possess a God-breathed spirit, and believing, therefore, that people are indistinguishable from animals, fully believes and teaches that people can be TRAINED and conditioned like Pavov’s dogs or like Thorndike’s chickens. To an ungodly man like Dobson, people aren’t made in God’s image, but are there to be manipulated and herded like animals. That’s precisely the point he’s making.

      Your second point regarding his time on Larry King shows clearly that Dobson is a false Christian and a hypocrite because he wasn’t even willing to back the biblical position and the truth that no one gets to Heaven without faith in Jesus Christ. When Larry asks him point blank if Jews or Moslems go to Heaven, Dobson compromised his position, and stated that “he can’t judge.” This proves Dobson can’t even repeat HIS OWN SUPPOSED CONVICTIONS on national TV. Even Larry King could see Dobson is a coward and phony incapable of even standing for the true gospel that he claims to believe. Dobson is one of the greatest wolves in sheep’s clothing ever!

    38. For the learning challenged on June 27th, 2008 4:53 am

      I love it when those with an obvious agenda try to sway the conversation away from the point of a post. The internet definition would be a troll.

      Dobson is not the fraud … Obama is the fraud.

      At he very time he was giving interviews where Obama was lashed out at activist pastors who offer more “screed than sermon … he sat in the pews at Trinity Church and listened to Rev. Wright and had no issue.

      For 20 years he sat by and attacked other people of religion that he did not agree with, but when it came to his own activist pastor, that was another story.

      Obama is a phony!

    39. Rusty Bridges on June 27th, 2008 11:03 am

      Back to the point. Dobson is not running for pres. Obama is deflecting to try and make himself the victim. Kool aide and fruitcake for all!

    40. Tamikosmom on June 27th, 2008 11:21 am

      38. For the learning challenged on June 27th, 2008 4:53 am

      I love it when those with an obvious agenda try to sway the conversation away from the point of a post. The internet definition would be a troll.

      Dobson is not the fraud … Obama is the fraud.

      At he very time he was giving interviews where Obama was lashed out at activist pastors who offer more “screed than sermon … he sat in the pews at Trinity Church and listened to Rev. Wright and had no issue.

      For 20 years he sat by and attacked other people of religion that he did not agree with, but when it came to his own activist pastor, that was another story.

      Obama is a phony!

      ++++++++

      Thank you FTLC

      I agree … Obama’s hypocracy is are the issue. I got drawn into that distraction hook, line and sinker.

      ‘Call to Renewal’ Keynote Address
      Wednesday, June 28, 2006
      Printable FormatWashington, DC

      No matter how religious they may or may not be, people are tired of seeing faith used as a tool of attack. They don’t want faith used to belittle or to divide. They’re tired of hearing folks deliver more screed than sermon. Because in the end, that’s not how they think about faith in their own lives.

      http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/

      +++++++++++

      Best of Jeremiah Wright’s Sermons Pt. 1
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=617eK2XIaLk

      Best of Jeremiah Wright’s Sermons Pt. 2
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaNBzU6iryo

    41. Rusty Bridges on June 27th, 2008 12:29 pm

      yoyo,

      Dobson didn’t run a plane into the WTC. whats your point?

    42. yoyo muffintop on June 27th, 2008 2:38 pm

      Rusty – Osama didn’t either.
      Point is Osama’s God believes America deserved 9/11 and Dobson’s God believes America deserved 9/11. At least according to Osama/Dobson.

    43. yoyo muffintop on June 27th, 2008 5:34 pm

      I’m pretty sure Janet is not subservient to men yet she is a follower of “Focus on the Family” in which its tenants and it’s founder/leader is clearly misogynistic.

      I do find it curious though that someone who is a follower of “Focus on the Family” has chosen to back one candidate who abandoned his family when his wife was no longer attractive and someone richer/better connected came along…but doesn’t back the candidate that values his family, his wife and his daughters.
      Maybe it should be changed to “Focus on the Conservative” instead.

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