So the Aruban & Dutch Media Think Patrick van der Eem is Worse than Joran Van der Sloot? … No Media Bias Here or Agendas


So why are some Aruban & Dutch media trying so hard to smear Patrick van Patrick_vander Eemder Eem? What is their agenda? Why was the excuse that Joran Van der Sloot was high on secret videos a perfectly good explanation, but some how going after Patrick is priority #1. Questionable image? Is there any wonder why no one from Aruba ever came forward in this case? Maybe it was because of the fear of the backlash from the authorities and the media in this coverup. It is truly sad when an obvious suspect is provided every opportunity to skate on an obvious crime, while others like Patrick and Natalee’s family are made to feel like suspects and treated poorly.

What’s important for Castro is that ‘the questionable image’ of Van der Eem is shown.  “Van der Eem is a dubious person with a big mouth.  His scar shows that the underworld had already made that clear; they mutilated him.  With what he told me, he confessed who he really is.  He says that he wants to help the Aruban people solve the case, but what he really wants is make money.  He wants to become a millionaire.”

Seems like there are some people still who do nor want the truth to come out about what really happened to Natalee Holloway. Who is really pulling the strings that would make every effort to attack and smear others that would provide. No amount of media diversion will ever change the fact that majority opinion knows who is guilty and who provided the cover up.


(Media, this is the person you need to be investigating)

So the Aruban and Dutch media think that Patrick van der Eem is some how a worse person than Joran Van der Sloot, the last person to be seen with missing and presumed murdered Natalee Holloway? Really? Joran Van der Sloot was secretly taped talking and admitting such vile and disgusting comments regarding the missing Alabama teen, Natalee Holloway, in a secret undercover sting by Patrick van der Eem and Peter R. DeVries.

Peter R. Devries interview on Scared Monkeys radio

Although an comments from Patrick van der Eem regarding book deals and monies are not appreciated, heaven forbid the media keep their eye on the big picture and remember what Joran van der Sloot said on the secret videos.

Joran: “My parents want to go and talk on the P&W show, because of all the fucking mistakes the OM has made, my father thinks that that will be very helpful with the compensation for damage. I will get a FAT compensation, a fat material compensation.”

Van der Eem threatens TV-presenter Castro  (Amigoe: 3/7/08)

Poentje Castro during his interview met Patrick van der Eem.

ORANJESTAD — Patrick van der Eem has threatened Poentje Castro of the programme Un Dia Den Bida, with death.  That’s what Castro said today and he wants to report this with the police.  He showed the recording he made from Van der Eem live on TV last Sunday.  Van der Eem called Castro on the phone immediately after the broadcast; he was very angry. 

The conversation with Van der Eem was recorded two weeks ago.  A second camera kept rolling after the interview, and Van der Eem evidently didn’t know this.  That movie ended up on YouTube (VIDEO I, VIDEO II, VIDEO III), and Nieuwe Revu had the interview translated into Dutch.  Van der Eem said at certain point during the interview that he had known Joran van der Sloot for years.  He also said that he knows who had thrown Natalee Holloway into the sea. 


The integral interview was going to be shown on TeleAruba yesterday evening at 21:00, after part of the interview was already showing on YouTube.  Castro says that TeleAruba management didn’t venture to do this, because they were afraid to be sued.  TeleCuracao and the Dutch current affairs Nova and De wereld draait door have indicated their interest in broadcasting the integral images.   Director Robert Kelly of TeleAruba said in a reaction that the recordings are ‘illegal’.  “The person in the recording didn’t know that he was being recorded and that can have legal consequences.” 

What’s important for Castro is that ‘the questionable image’ of Van der Eem is shown.  “Van der Eem is a dubious person with a big mouth.  His scar shows that the underworld had already made that clear; they mutilated him.  With what he told me, he confessed who he really is.  He says that he wants to help the Aruban people solve the case, but what he really wants is make money.  He wants to become a millionaire.”

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  • Joran Van der Sloot … He’s Back
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    101 Responses to “So the Aruban & Dutch Media Think Patrick van der Eem is Worse than Joran Van der Sloot? … No Media Bias Here or Agendas”

    1. Nut44x4 on March 8th, 2008 12:42 pm

      Ah yes, indeed. The dark side feels that “Patrick had been supplying Joran with pot and money, fueling his addictions to the point of dependency.” Poor Joran…poor little innocent Joran.

    2. allan k on March 8th, 2008 1:05 pm

      I will always know who were the major players in Natalee’s demise know matter what anybody says about anybody else.

      I hear this big discrepancy about how long he knew Joran and I don’t care. A murderer they would at least given a chance to try and explain but I have not heard of Patrick being given a chance. I am not sure it is a problem actually.

      PS Go to Hell Aruba.

    3. Jerry from Ohio on March 8th, 2008 1:13 pm

      I am sorry to state this but it seems to me that Patrick is on a roll now and is trying to stretch out his role in all of Peter R. DeVries story and Patrick is or is willing to sell himself to the highest bidder no matter which side that bidder is on .
      It is becoming a matter of money to this man Patrick and with his going back to Holiday in Aruba now is sending many more questions in my mind .
      He just seems not to be the reformed man that he was at first portrayed as .
      Urine is and will stay the Black hearted SOB that I believe he is but this man Patrick surly does NOT seem to be acting in the most responsible way at least at the moment I sure do hope that he does not do more harm to Peter R. DeVries project just to try and make his self more $$ if he does this I do hope that someone will put a bullet behind his ear also along with the rest of those that we would like to see punished in Aruba or the Netherlands or wherever they try to hide .
      Jerry from Ohio

    4. txchic on March 8th, 2008 1:56 pm

      i’m going to cut patrick some slack here. didn’t he claim that he’s a father himself? patrick’s invested lots of time in this matter & has put himself in harm’s way in his quest for the truth. the man probably has bills to pay.

      wth does it matter what the aruban press says any more? they’ve proven themselves to be nothing more that tabloid rags imo.

    5. longjack on March 8th, 2008 2:18 pm

      Why shouldn’t this person make money?

      His service thus far, regardless of what you think of his morals, ethics, etc., has been to provide some pretty explosive material which revived an investigation that was heading down the memory hole.

      He’s the ‘boots on the ground’ in this case and those aspects of his personality some criticize are what enabled him to get the information we ethical keyboard warriors weren’t able to.

      His service and the information he was able to garner entails high risks and warrants the earning of large amounts of money.

      I also consider any discussion of what he said in the interview as highly speculative until I have seen an official translation.

      Some foreign languages have two different words for the English word ‘know’. “I know him”, or “I know who he is” are said with two different words. They are translated back to one word ‘know’, and unless the translator has the paragraph with the foundational idea behind the context of the discussion built into the translation the meaning will be uncertain.

      Literal translations are difficult in a two way translation, in this case we have Papiamento to Dutch to English.

    6. kiltie65 on March 8th, 2008 2:24 pm

      Patrick, gloat all you want dear. If your efforts have been able to accomplish bringing Joran et famille, the Kalpoes, the crooked cops, and the crooked judiciary down, you rightly deserve the reward money, the book money, the fee from DeVries, any TV appearance fees you can wangle, and the gratitude of us all. Do stay away from Aruba…don’t think you’re safe there. Mail Paulus a towel…I think he’s sweating again!

    7. Sharon Chicago on March 8th, 2008 3:09 pm

      #3 Jerry…Why do you judg/condem Patrick so unfairly.. I for one am very grateful that he was willing to be the setup man to bring Joran down. The world saw and heard Joran and that is worth millions…

      Patrick has done nothing wrong and I for one applaud him and thank him… justice for Natalee!!!

    8. WOLF HUNTERS on March 8th, 2008 3:15 pm

      paulus is in big trouble


    9. Lotte Lenya on March 8th, 2008 3:21 pm

      kiltie65 #6….I couldn’t have said it any better!

    10. dennisintn on March 8th, 2008 3:27 pm

      i hope patrick makes a bundle of money off his book, and anything else he wants to get into. having to be in close contact with jvds for 6 mos. without killing him is worth any price. it’s strange to me that all the people criticizing patrick didn’t open their mouths to complain about jvds writing a book and capitalizing on natalee’s death. for a place that swears to our faces that they want justice for natalee, they have strange ways of showing it. every single person, from natalee’s family to witnesses that have come forward trying to help, have been trashed and scandalized by the officials and media, excepting jossy.

    11. brie on March 8th, 2008 3:38 pm

      Now we know better than to believe anything that comes out of Aruba. Patrick doesn’t have any reason to lie…we also know how they like to blame the victim and anyone else that wants to help solve the case. I believe what Patrick and Peter say, not Castro. He’s probably a friend of the Sloot’s.

      I hope Patrick’s book is a best seller and he is certainly entitled to the proceeds.

      Amigoe has printed many false statements. Also things can be misinterpreted and confusion in translation.

      And I doubt if Patrick threatened to kill him. Well just like they say in Aruba, prove it.

    12. Carpe Noctem on March 8th, 2008 4:14 pm

      Patrick is the man, if he was a woman, I’d seriously contemplate doing the horizontal
      polka with ‘em.

      “WE GOTCHA NOWWWWW, BOYYYYY! I’M GONNA FINISH HIM.” 20/20 -Patrick Van der eem

      GO PAT!

      Rock-n-Roll, dude! Put it the ef on him.

      -justice for natalee

    13. txchic on March 8th, 2008 4:19 pm

      patrick didn’t go any further than a licensed private detective. don’t they get paid?

      besides… if he were really out to make money i think patrick would have put claim in for any reward money still being offered.

    14. Kat_Gram on March 8th, 2008 4:24 pm

      IF Patrick committed a crime, even littering or jaywalking, his azz would be in the KIA right now. IMO

    15. MY THOUGH on March 8th, 2008 4:32 pm

      Pauulus has the means .. money.. power.. to create all this false accusations against patrick the holloways and devries.. he has the backing from the judges in aruba.. so now hes confident he can do and say what he wants. and if you think joran will settle dow.. i highly doubt it.. he can do whatever he wants. and not pay for his crimes. someone is going to end up snuffing him out..

    16. MY THOUGH on March 8th, 2008 4:34 pm


    17. MY THOUGH on March 8th, 2008 4:40 pm

      They are just trying to discredit anyone. than can help or has information regarding natalees disappearance.. damn judges in aruba are sick.. I will not change my opinion of patrick he is awesome.. so is devried.. true heroes.. and still they havent given up ..
      I was watching a tv series last night.. maybe you all have seen it.. its called.. YOUR MAMA CANT DANCE..they were giving free tickets to aruba to the winners of the contest.
      last night also I was watching a series.. where brides pick their wedding dresses .. the bride brings her family and at times boyfriend to help pick the wedding dress.. well anyways . there was a guy on there .. with his bride to be his name was DEEPAK. I kid you not he looked just like deepak.. only with a few more pounds.. it was on channel 47 I am sure.. can someone investigate that out.. it was on the TLC channel..

    18. MY THOUGH on March 8th, 2008 4:41 pm

      i meant devries.. not devried

    19. Sweet_thang on March 8th, 2008 4:41 pm

      I agree with you #7, Patrick exposed van of poop for the despicable monster that he is. A lowly earthworm has more character and conscience than Urine, and thanks to Patrick, now the world knows.

      Last Fall, when this case was fast becoming a distant, unpleasant memory, a co-worker mentioned the bargain prices she found for a trip to Aruba. She booked it, and strongly encouraged me to do the same. Although my wife and I enjoyed our stay there the year before Natalee’s “disappearance”, something told me not to book a return trip. So I did not.

      Then when the 3 amigoes (I mean sh_tbums) were re-arrested in this case last December, then set free, that did it for me. I will never, EVER return to Aruba unless full justice has been achieved for Natalee and her family.

      Boycott Aruba 4ever!

    20. MY THOUGH on March 8th, 2008 4:42 pm

      carpenoctrum the horizontal polks ahaa to funny

    21. MY THOUGH on March 8th, 2008 4:43 pm

      i meant carpenoctrum.. sorry guy!!

    22. EURobert on March 8th, 2008 5:01 pm

      # 12 Carpe Noctem

      “… if he was a woman, I’d seriously contemplate doing the horizontal polka with ‘em.”

      LOL (But make – very – sure then you’re not secretly being filmed!)

    23. MY THOUGH on March 8th, 2008 5:50 pm

      carpenoctrum and EURobert
      make sure if you do the polka with him that you throw away your shoes..Leaave no DNA

    24. brie on March 8th, 2008 5:57 pm

      A very big Thank You to Peter also, he wants to solve the case too….and made it possible for Patrick to go to work on Joran….Good guys….great team…

    25. Patti on March 8th, 2008 6:54 pm

      To say they’re a rare match, which is why I think the stories that Joran told were bunk, is one thing; but to say that a man dependent on marijuana is worse than a cold hearted, pre-meditating, murderer of the piggly wiggly family is absurd…

      It’s like comparing Dr. Livingston

      to Jack the Ripper.

      I want to hear him ‘cluck’ like a chicken!



    26. Patti on March 8th, 2008 7:11 pm

      What if Daury was not a name, but rather, a clue?

      The first time, I heard the word,

      It reminded me of India (or Indians)


      Could it be that it was the Arawak Nation

      that saved Joran than night?

      … Or was Charles Croes, Paulus Van der Snoot,

      and Joran in on it from the VERY beginning?


      Think about it…


      Justice for Natalee!

    27. A New Girl on March 8th, 2008 7:28 pm

      Patrick Van Der Eem and Peter De Vries are about the only 2 men ever involved in helping to solve this case who actually have intestinal fortitude …(and that’s putting it nicely).

      Patrick can certainly handle himself and whatever is thrown his way…and he does deserve any income derived from his efforts. GO PATRICK!! They are attempting to intimidate him now since he probably is privy to even MORE damaging information…..Joran and Papa Sloot…..howis the nightmare progressing? Hope you are both enjoying your own private hell.


    28. always 1 on March 8th, 2008 7:29 pm

      carpe noctum, you have such a way with words, if i were only younger……

    29. brie on March 8th, 2008 7:55 pm

      I think there is more damaging evidence due to the fact that Patrick was always present at Joran’s parties and the neighbor always heard words mentioned of Natalee from Joran through the walls….Cook him Patrick and Peter!!!!!!

    30. Carpe Noctem on March 8th, 2008 8:30 pm


      “I want to hear him ‘cluck’ like a chicken!”

      That’s what Mrs. Sanders told the judge when filing for divorce from the Colonel.

      WE heard she kinda liked it.

      That freak!!! LOL

    31. Bearlyhere on March 9th, 2008 12:07 am

      What you are telling me is Patrick wants money out of the undercover deal, and that is his motivation.

      TeleAruba wants to allegedly expose Patrick for what he is, but is not going to do it because of…money (fear of being sued and losing $).

      I see the true color and it is green.

      Follow the money…where have I heard that before?

      Castro also picks on Patrick’s scar. Does a physical deformity make you less of a human being? Everyone comes with some scar, seen or unseen. What’s yours Castro?

    32. brie on March 9th, 2008 4:22 am

      Castro has joined the “hate list” along with Joran, Paulus, Anita, Straaten, Jacobs, Oduber, Dompig and Renfro. They don’t want the truth to come out for obvious reasons…well your day is coming. Everyone knows now about the corruption your involved in.

      Gee, it certainly didn’t take Paulus long to screw himself up as a lawyer. Standing on the beach are you Paulus, looking into the ocean, thinking about what you did, those haunting memories, lying under oath, you should not be practicing law. I hope Rudy has removed you for all the committees.

    33. brie on March 9th, 2008 4:35 am

      Sounds like what Castro is saying or trying to say is coming out of the mouths of Paulus and Anita. The Sloot family is finished, there are no more options except to leave the island of Aruba. The walls are crumbling, the winds are whispering, your in the tunnels of hell and there is no way out!!!!

    34. J O Cincy on March 9th, 2008 8:04 am

      Castro said “His scar shows that the underworld had already made that clear.” Can I ask, “Who cares what the UNDERWORLD thinks?” Are they some Authourity? OR is the UNDERWORLD the people who run Aruba, like Nelson, Rudy, ALE, etc.

    35. brie on March 9th, 2008 9:34 am

      Castro is just another Aruban trouble maker looking for media coverage and viewers, that underworld comment is nonsense, the underworld is Paulus and the drug lords. Joran’s so-called masters to be. We know who Paulus’s big connection is.

      It’s a shame for Aruba what they have gotten away with, only to hurt people and destroy the country. And cover-up their actions.

    36. Waterboy (previously, Jerry) on March 9th, 2008 9:52 am

      Still here. Just have not posted.


    37. david r on March 9th, 2008 9:53 am

      I’m sure Patrick is no saint. If he were, he would not have been able to win Joran’s confidence. But the fact is, he punked that fool Joran and got him to spill the beans on tape. The Aruban media has always picked the story that discredits Natalee and her family. They just want the tourist bucks. Go to the Yucatan. It is much safer, and just as cheap. Never let Natalee be forgotten. Discourage all travel to Aruba.

    38. Richard on March 9th, 2008 10:08 am

      As I said before, the real issue isn’t Patrick van der Eem or Peter de Vries. The real issue is what happened to Natalee Holloway and who was involved? Get that, Aruba?

      Yes, it would be nice if Patrick were a candidate for sainthood … I don’t think that he is … but what I care about was what Joran said on those tapes. How about it, Aruba? How long do you think you can keep this cover-up going?

      And why are you doing it … who, and how many, are you protecting? What do they have on YOU?

      Boycott Aruba … it’s only common sense.

    39. LilPuma on March 9th, 2008 10:09 am

      Patrick, like Dr. Phil, exposed the scumbags for what they are. So Aruba goes into defensive mode for the sake of a sociopath who has done something 20 times before only without the death and disappearance part. ARUBA: THIS GUY AND HIS FRIENDS RAPED AND MURDERED NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND HAD HELP DISPOSING OF HER BODY. CUT THE CRAP AND BRING THEM TO JUSTICE ALONG WITH THOSE WHO COVERED IT UP. I hate when I have to type in uppercase. Sheesh!

      What will it take, Aruba to get you to stop covering up for these 3 perps and those who helped them? You know they’re guilty, we know they’re guilty, Dr. Phil and Patrick and DeVries know they’re guilty. JUST DO IT! Every once in a while I think maybe I and others are spending too much time on this. And then I read something like this and want to pull the plug on Aruba and watch them slowly sink into the ocean, never to be seen or heard from again.

      Does anyone thinks that the anger and threats will get better as the Kalpoe v. McGraw case moves forward or when Joey Tacopiny files against everyone who told the truth about his rapist/murderer client? They’re the ones who shouldn’t get a dime. Anyone trying to expose Aruba and team Kalpoe/Sloot for what they are should be in the media, getting the truth out to as many as possible around the world. If they can make money doing it. Fine.

      One last thing. HOW DID THE U.S. GOVERNMENT PUT JOEY “THE CLOWN” LOMBARDO BEHIND BARS? Some nice church-going guy with a clean record coming forward? NOOOOOOO. Of course not. A murderer, thief, scum sucker like Lombardo turned on him.

      End of rant. Worse than typing in uppercase is doing it before my 2nd cup of coffee. Grrrrrrrrr

    40. LilPuma on March 9th, 2008 10:18 am

      5. Longjack. En Espanol por ejemplo: Yo se and Yo conozco. Both mean I know….

    41. JusticeforNatalee on March 9th, 2008 10:54 am


      Can’t distract anyone, Aruba.


      Get on the ball, Aruba.


      In fact, in New York, the big concern was:
      Now that Joran has confessed, why is Aruba
      STILL letting him go free?! When is Aruba going to
      rearrest Joran? Yes, that was a big concern in New York!

      Get that, Aruba? Tourists in your number one
      market in the US want to know why you STILL
      are letting Joran get away with his crimes.

      And your New York tourists are FED UP.

      Lots of other vacation destinations. New Yorkers don’t need Aruba.

    42. JusticeforNatalee on March 9th, 2008 10:58 am


      Exactly, LilPuma!

    43. always 1 on March 9th, 2008 11:51 am

      waterboy, did you see the aeriel pictures….look at Aruba by Air Photo Gallery-go to by the Milkman at

    44. Gabriel Leo on March 9th, 2008 12:03 pm

      The issue here is that this Curacao guy, van der Eem, on camera has told Castro that he knows who the guy is that disposed of the body that night. He told Castro that he paid this friend of Joran to help keep him quiet. He tells Castro that if you trace his account records you will see a payment made to this guy of 2000 euro.
      Castro is not questioning what Joran said and is not questioning that Joran is or is not Guilty, but the fact that seeing what Van der Eem told Castro and how he also wants to make money with this case, he questions the motives of this Van der Eem guy and if he can be trusted. To my knowledge he’s a very notorious guy with a dark history, who all of the sudden cries on American TV, and on local TV he’s the Dark Vader and expresses so much evil.
      For being such a hero, he sure knows how to verbally threaten Castro’s life over the phone.
      I personally never liked this Van der Eem guy, despite what he achieved with this case. He has other motives, than just be the gullible perfect young man he appeared on US-TV.

    45. misskatiekatie2u.. ALIAS MY THOUGHTS on March 9th, 2008 12:06 pm

      there are no honest cops
      in aruba
      they are all in someones pocket’s
      I used to think hans mos was upright.. hmmm
      I think patrick and peter are hella cool..peter may have a criminal background but .. even so he was able to acomplish something that aruba couldnt.. and more than that……
      hats off to patrick and peter…
      the resistance is with aruba..
      its not that they cant so something about it
      but they wont…
      I heard someone say that the vandersloots were moving to africa and that anita was asked to resign from teaching.. will someone elaborate
      would be greatly indebted to you.. wheres the info or blog located. please..

    46. kayjay on March 9th, 2008 12:22 pm

      I could care less that Patrick has not bee nominated for sainthood…the guy had the guts to do what not many people would have done, and as a result Beth has some answers..maybe not totally truthful, but at least enough to know that stinking lowlife is up to his ugly ears in the rape, (probable gang rape), in my opinion murder and disposing of Natalee’s body. How much more “highbar” evidence those corrupt weasling clowns of a justice dept. need to convict I do not know. They make a mockery out of the word “JUSTICE” and are a total disgrace.

    47. longjack on March 9th, 2008 12:49 pm

      # 44 Gabriel Leo

      Interesting post. If I may ask, for clarification.

      van der Eem paid ‘daury’ to keep quiet?

      Did anyone trace the bank transfer?

      In the milieu that you feel van der Eem operates in, any casual ‘name dropping’ by Castro may get van der Eem killed. Does castro know what he’s doing?

      The proof is in the pudding with the telephone threat. Can van der Eem be arrested for that? Can Castro sue?

      The questions posed in your post seem like ones that can be answered by simple research or by observing what legal steps are taken.

    48. Lotte Lenya on March 9th, 2008 1:23 pm

      Gabriel Leo, #44… “He told Castro that he paid this friend of Joran to help keep him quiet.”

      Gabriel, all I read was that Joran asked Patrick for the “hush money”. I didn’t see anywhere that Patrick said he actually paid any money to anyone. Can you please reference your information?

      “he was recorded saying that he knew who had dumped Natalee’s body at sea and that Van der Sloot had asked him for €2,000 to buy the man’s silence, the Telegraaf reports.”

    49. katablog on March 9th, 2008 1:34 pm

      Hey Gabriel Leo: What’s your source? Have you seen the original transcript? Do you know the translation is correct or are you just feeding us what Aruba fed you?

      Every story out of Aruba (save those from Jossy Mansur) has always attempted to soil anyone who claims knowledge of the crime that points directly at Joran. Aruba has had their own Police officials tell the stupidest stories and always against Natalee and Beth, pro Joran. Then they went and got some so called Psychics whom had already been discredited by every news organization they attempted to sell their story to.

      Aruba has Natalee buying drugs from none other than the police chief’s druggy brother-in-law; then they have her running off to a crack house; then they have Beth spiriting her off the island by a mysterious hospital plane, then they have her drunk and drowning by going swimming, blah blah blah.

      So it makes sense that Aruba wants to now throw stink on Patrick – though one has to wonder why Patrick went there, he should have known they’d set him up.

      Face it, if we believe the tapes Patrick helped get, it proves that Aruba knew within days what really happened to Natalee since they asked Beth about seizures and then Joran tells the seizure story on tape. There can be only one conclusion and so Aruba has to get people to stop believing in those tapes – hence discredit Patrick.

      Well guess what Aruba, the video tape doesn’t lie. So rub all the mud you want over Patrick and it doesn’t change the video tape or the questions you asked Beth on day one.

      I believe there’s something wrong with the translation and that the Aruba TV couldn’t air that program because they would have been sued for liable and they knew that. Yeah, Patrick probably threatened them but most likely with a liable suit rather than a death threat. TV stations don’t not air something because of death threats since they know they can get protection.

      So come on Gabe: instead of spreading Aruba lies, give us your sources.

    50. Kat_Gram on March 9th, 2008 1:53 pm

      From Gabriel’s post: “How he also wants to make money with this case, he questions the motives of this Van der Eem guy and if he can be trusted. To my knowledge he’s a very notorious ..”
      No one from Aruba has to TRUST Patrick, that’s the point… It isn’t Patrick who is the suspect… It isn’t a jailhouse confession where one criminal is ratting out another criminal on a cellblock.
      I am very curious as to what other things Patrick has on the Sloots. They made money from this case and were planning a big compensation case, doesn’t that disturb anyone ? What kind of people are the Sloots? Can they be trusted ? What are their motives ? Should we trust the Sloots ? ROFL x 10.

    51. brie on March 9th, 2008 1:54 pm

      I don’t think Patrick gave Joran any hush money but if he did it was only to get more information from Joran…Patrick is smart enough to know the money being asked for was for Joran himself. I’m not questioning Patrick’s motives because he had no way of knowing that Joran would ever talk.

      Gabe Leo’s reputation is very questionable since he was at the Van der Sloot’s house right after Natalee disappeared. Was present at the confrontation between the Twitty’s and the Van der Sloot’s. Why?

      Seems like Gabe is always trying to steer us in a different direction….must have a reason for wanting us to do that…how involved are you Gabe???

    52. brie on March 9th, 2008 1:58 pm

      Gabe is another one that left the island of Aruba…along with all the others.

    53. Carpe Noctem on March 9th, 2008 2:53 pm

      Let me tell ya something Gabie Baby.

      Ol’ Gabe could whip out his little buddy and take
      a leak on the church steps, right in front of a nun on a Sunday.

      He still is 100 times cleaner than Joran and the Kalpoes who drug, rape, brutalize, and film
      comatose helpless females.

      I imagine Patrick can get his f’n dates all by himself, without the need to knock them out &
      drag them anywhere.

      Pat, if bust 3 caps in Castro… save approximately 4 more for Paulus, Joran,
      Deepak, and Satish.


      Aruba’s like a dang broken friggin record. THE LAW is what they want it to be on any given day.

      More power to ya, Pat!


    54. misskatie on March 9th, 2008 2:55 pm

      wonder if jurine feels the pressure along with daddy

    55. txchic on March 9th, 2008 3:06 pm

      in the big scheme of things it matters not what type of a person patrick is. from what i saw in the tapes, patrick didn’t have joran’s balls in some sort of grip to torture the confession out. it was given of free will.

    56. Elle L Smith on March 9th, 2008 3:59 pm

      Was it ever investigated when Paulus went to the bank the day after Natalee went missing. I read that he went and was very nervous and spoke to his friend, a lady at the bank. Then went back to that same teller a few hours later. Then she either died or moved that same week. Something to think about…………………

    57. brie on March 9th, 2008 4:10 pm

      Still would like to know why Gabe Leo was present at the Van der Sloots are May 31st. Does anyone know the answer…maybe Gabe can tell us!

    58. Patti on March 9th, 2008 4:11 pm


      So he’s a RAT?

      Some times, it’s a good thing

      to be a rat…

      Especially, when it means

      saving lives.

      I hope he sings like a bird!



      Is THAT more to your liking, Freak?


      Justice for Natalee!

    59. brie on March 9th, 2008 4:27 pm

      If Castro likes to question someone’s reputation he can start with Joran, Paulus, Straaten, Dompig and Oduber….that should keep him busy for a very long time…anyone that wants this case solved would not question Patrick’s motives….getting paid by the corruptors Castro…..yep!!! You make me sick!!!! The Sloot’s are pissed because Joran screwed up the chances for that big fat compensation check. Patrick and Peter have only just begun. Joran and his family are on hell’s highway.

      I wonder how many pain killers Hans has to take in the coarse of one day.

    60. brie on March 9th, 2008 4:45 pm

      Gabe isn’t a rat….he’s always defending anything against trying to solve the case…saw a picture of him on Aruban Who’s Who….did he own a boat?

    61. MBS on March 9th, 2008 4:55 pm

      This is nothing but an unsubtle attmept to divert attention away from Joran’s confession. Why is the Aruban media trying so hard to discredit Patrick, instead of investigating the things Joran was taped saying? I guess that’s not a story anyone on Aruba wants to hear about.

    62. brie on March 9th, 2008 4:58 pm

      I think our FBI needs to bring Gabe Leo in for questioning…he is in Ft Lauderdale, Fla. Again I ask what was he doing at the Van der Sloots house on May 31st. You don’t hear much about him….wonder why…doesn’t anyone think that is strange? And then he shows up here defending Joran….read all of his previous posts….I think he definitely has something to hide…!

    63. brie on March 9th, 2008 5:04 pm

      Carpe is not a FREAK! And no one here should say that! We cannot insult people that are here to help! EVER!

    64. Gabriel Leo on March 9th, 2008 6:48 pm


      You are an example of a person who wants to be an investigator, and does so behind a computer, in jammies the whole day I imagine.Is people like you who make things more blurry then they already are.

      Have said it before and will say it again, never met Beth, never was nowhere near them and you may see all kind of pictures of myself, but you should stop talking BS before you think.
      Now I have a boat? Are you serious? Are you like high? On any anti depression medication, because you are talking allot of, excuse my expression, BS! You want FBI to look for me? Why don’t ya make that call? Want me to call them myself and do so to make YOU happy? Hey, since I’m a Floridian, how about I skip to downtown and tell the authorities, HEY BRIE has an issue, so you better question me! You should tell that leprechaun on your shoulder to stop feeding you insanity and join the world of the sane for once!
      I also saw that list, “who’s who”, which some inspector gadget behind a computer made and I’m on it. Why? Have no clue! Said before in other post why maybe I was put in that list by who ever made it. So I supposed you saw water in the background of that picture, so must have been on a boat right? You do know this is an island which is, SOURROUNDED by water, that makes and Island YA know.
      And get ThIS STRAIGHT! Never have I and never will defend Joran. In the past have publicly showed him my disgust towards him when he was at a bowling lane next to mine on night and so did about 50 other people who were there that night also.

    65. brie on March 9th, 2008 7:01 pm

      Paulus was only a lawyer for a short period of time witch he managed to put himself in a position of disbarrament….!!!!

    66. Gabriel Leo on March 9th, 2008 7:05 pm

      What he said is that he has a voicemail with Threats of this Eem guy , and he was going to the authorities with what he’s got on threats from Van der Eem, because as he stated, Eem threatened his wife and children and he wasn’t going to accept that. He also mentioned that If van der Eem claims to know what he says, why hasn’t he let the authorities know anything? When he was questioned further on the radio about what else Eem said, Castro said, Mos asked him not to mention anything yet, let them investigate the clip first.
      # 48
      Out of Castro’s own mouth, last Friday, at Noon, on a local Radio Station he intensively gave a live interview and said exactly what I posted. As for what Telegraaf wrote, he was asked about this also and said that Telegraaf is printing non sense because, if they haven’t seen the recording, how can they say what was recorded?

      As to you, I’m going to be vewwwy vewwwy childish towards you….I’m not telling you squat, just because I don’t like you! Except my opinion about Jossy Mansur is and stands as it always has, he was born a crook, he lives like is a crook and will die a crook! Have nothing to hide, that’s my first and last name on the post, unlike many of you posting under super hero names. Have nothing to hide and nothing to fear.

    67. brie on March 9th, 2008 7:09 pm

      It’S been said you were are the Sloot’s when Natalee disappeared…we have every reason to investigate you….and more!!!!!!

    68. MY THOUGH on March 9th, 2008 7:40 pm

      your pathetic.. you know nothing your only an instigator.. trying to dangle false info…you just want reaction… you have no clue what you are saying… your rambling crap

    69. MY THOUGH on March 9th, 2008 7:44 pm


      they only come here to insult those of us who care what happened to natalee.. they have to attack and discredit people.. everyone should be here for one reason if not they need not be here.. we love and natalees supporters such as jossy peter. patrick.. dont let the door hit you in the ass.. and alll those good folks here at scared monkeys.. only mnkeys allowed no apes please…

    70. Bob on March 9th, 2008 7:44 pm

      Here’s a little math lesson for Aruba Sand Pigs… attention P.M. Oduber and Rob Smith. A while back Oduber said Aruba’s “negative financial impact” was the direct result of the “Holloway girl problem”. LOL, you haven’t even got a clue, so we thought we’d put it in numbers since you somehow don’t comprehend English about what you should do to reverse the problem.

      You claim the Holloway “case” has cost Aruba $millions. Some don’t seem to understand that. Why? Here’s an eye opener.

      The average American tourist couple used to spend:

      Airfare: about $800. Now the airlines are losing that and flying at 65% capacity or LESS.

      Hotel : 5 days, about $1800- 2600. Now rooms are offered almost 60% off embarrassingly DISCOUNTED rates.

      Restaurants/meals: 5 days, about $250-400 per day.

      Shopping: jewelry, perfumes, junk items $300-500 per vacation.

      Casinos / taxis: $ 500-800 on average

      A simple tally finds a low of $3,650 to a high of $5,100 and that’s conservative for a party of two.

      And now for some realism-

      The Boston travel show hardly generated 6 bookings……..

      The NY travel show hardly generated 4 bookings……..

      The St. Louis show hardly generated 2 bookings……

      It’s going to get much worse, count on that. Future shows won’t even generate enough revenue to cover the electric bill. We estimate the Justice4Natalee volunteers warded away at least 200 visitors from just 3 shows. We will be there at every show this year!

      And now for the math: 200 visitors times $3,650 = $730,000 on the low end. On the higher end, 200 visitors times $5,100 = $1,020,000. That’s only 200 missed bookings in 3 shows. The BOYCOTT is in the middle of phase I……imagine what’s coming.

      How’s your Tourism Shows workin’ out for yah? It’s gonna’ get much, much worse….we promise.

    71. Lotte Lenya on March 9th, 2008 7:47 pm


      as you already know, SM is REALLY ON TOP of posting up to the minute information regarding the Holloway case. If Patrick said, as you claim, that he gave hush money to joran or the person responsible for dumping Natalee on joran’s behalf…IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED HERE on this site. Maybe you didn’t understand what you were reading.

      As far as Patrick’s claim that he knows who disposed of Natalee, I don’t understand all the hoopla! There’s nothing reprehensible about making such a claim. Why, just about EVERY member of SM has also made that very same heartfelt claim. I know who disposed of Natalee’s body. Why shouldn’t Patrick?

    72. MY THOUGH on March 9th, 2008 7:48 pm

      let me write this over this is jumbled
      we love natalee and her supporters who have done what they could to bring justice… jossy peter and patrick have been awesome.. .. we have good monkeys here.. no apes allowed.. SONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS
      we want justice for natalee… if your a jurine supporter.. well than go to his blog.. the mickey mouse kangaroos court in aruba..has done so much damage to the holloways..quit insulting good people here…

    73. MY THOUGH on March 9th, 2008 7:53 pm

      good to hear that aruba is suffering in the pocket.. you guys are doing a great job at the travel shows.. keep the boycott going.. for those of us that cant go but would like to contribute funds in some way let us know

    74. SS on March 9th, 2008 8:01 pm

      There are some very interesting photographs from Aruba and the Netherlands.

    75. ayfit on March 9th, 2008 8:04 pm

      We must keep the pressure on. This way some sort of justice will prevail. Ya know what I mean? There are so many responsible. Joron justice is near,you’re the one focused on here. Sleep with one eye open,on second thought,I don’t think I’d sleep at all. Dude you’re a DMW.

    76. katablog on March 9th, 2008 8:41 pm

      Oh dear, Gabriel doesn’t like me! I consider that a badge of honor. What’s a matter gabe, are my questions too probing?

      Gabe claims he knows what was said by Patrick because it was on Aruba TV. To me that’s a good sign that it’s probably a lie. Aruba hasn’t told the truth from the beginning and it has done everything to threaten anyone who makes noises that they might spill the beans.

      But the bottom line is, what difference does it make? Does it change what Joran said on the video? no. It doesn’t change that Joran confessed early on in the case. It doesn’t change that Aruba Investigators knew very early that Natalee had a seizure and Joran knew this also. It doesn’t change that this type of behavior was well known to be Joran’s behavior – drugging and raping.

      Whether Patrick is or isn’t what he said he was – the tape of Joran doesn’t change. The cover-up in Aruba doesn’t change. But American tourists have changed their behavior – they know Aruba is a dangerous place to go on vacation. They also know that Aruba officials lie to cover up what has happened on their island.

    77. Carpe Noctem on March 9th, 2008 8:48 pm

      …and who could forget this

      priceless VAN DER MAGGOT MOMENT?

      HEY Maton, you sadistic little worm…

      Do you remember this little ditty?


    78. always 1 on March 9th, 2008 10:11 pm

      well gosh, i would rather be a scared monkey in jammie rather than a ……….you want to finish this for me there..carpe noctem

    79. MY THOUGH on March 9th, 2008 11:02 pm

      rather than a body weighed down at the bottom 0f the ocean

    80. longjack on March 10th, 2008 4:23 am

      # 66 Gabriel Leo

      Thanks for answering # 47. It seems to me like you are trying to describe what you observed or read in the Castro van der Eem incident. I appreciate that info, so thanks for that as well.

      Castro now brings more pressure to bear on Mos, which is good, although I won’t hold my breath waiting for Mos to do something.

      I think van der Eem probably told Mos the information about who dumped the body as well.

      If Castro has a tape with threats you described there should be legal ramifications. As I said before, the proof is in the pudding.

    81. Steve Holloway on March 10th, 2008 8:43 am

      Gabriel Leo would you email me at

    82. bobbie on March 10th, 2008 8:49 am

      I think it’s just too hard for us to pass judgement on Patrick. He very well could be an opportunist, who knew that by befriending Joran he could get rich. Or maybe he really does have a good heart. It’s just too hard for us to tell without knowing him personally. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is just out to make money, especially the more and more I hear about him. And #76, your last paragraph sums up the bottom line – who cares about his character, because in the end we have a slipped confession from Joran, and more justice for Natalee.

    83. Herman on March 10th, 2008 8:52 am

      Dear people,
      I’m from Holland and hello to you.
      Believe me: that guy Patrick is perhaps even worse than the halfbrother of Joran. And perhaps there’s somethingelse going on…
      Why don’t you looj at this… why shouldn’t we?
      Take Google for instance. Type Natalidelconte (She’s in California) and you get the photoworld on Flickr. Type on that seching machine the name Nathalee… and you’see something strange, like: are we seeing our loved Natalee Holloway who perhaps wanted a new life?
      What do you think?
      For one thing I know: the first photos you see fromFloriandevisser are made in Eindhoven (Holland). But the rest of it…
      What’s going on?
      SM: First off her name isn’t Nathalee, it’s Natalee. Second, you guys are getting despirate huh? (klaasend)

    84. JusticeforNatalee on March 10th, 2008 9:56 am

      #73 contact Vicki @

    85. SUPER DAVE on March 10th, 2008 10:07 am


    86. misskatie on March 10th, 2008 10:25 am

      how do we even know steve holloway is not natalees brothers.. is this just a coincidence. why would he care to know info.. im sure if hes really natalees brother..

    87. misskatie on March 10th, 2008 10:28 am

      hey peewee herman..
      are u trying to jerk us around.. do you think we were born yesterday.. I THINK NOT!!

    88. katablog on March 10th, 2008 11:00 am

      #83 Herman: Hi. We know Natalee is not in California because we, like Joran and Aruba’s police officials, know that Natalee is dead. Joran confessed to being present when Natalee died not once, but 10 times on video and at least one other time early in the investigation.

      Joran told Aruba officials that Natalee had a seizure. We know that because Aruba officials were asking Beth about this within days of her arrival. Joran repeats this almost 3 years later on video tape with Patrick.

      I guess the news is slow in the Netherlands while the rumors are quickly spread. Don’t listen to the lies from Aruba.

    89. Herman on March 10th, 2008 11:04 am

      Hello again,

      I didn’t mean Natalee or Nathalee, like we know some wrote a strange story.
      I meant: do you as closely friends recognize -it’s Natalee they told me- that beautiful girl who could be our Natalee Holloway?
      Close-ups enough I think. But you do know: is it youre love one?
      And: I’m just sitting at home. I don’t know those guys… glad not!

    90. misskatie on March 10th, 2008 12:03 pm

      thats almost as bad as saying they seen elvis at the mall
      natalee in california?
      hermans last sentence sounds like someone not all there..

    91. Herman on March 10th, 2008 12:22 pm

      No… it’s not that. That’s to easy and not funny. No respect for someone? Why do you do that?
      Please go to
      I wonder if she knows what she told me. She seems to me honest oke?
      But I’m not the crazy one!
      And I don’t like the tunes of this all: should I have shut my mouth?

    92. misskatie on March 10th, 2008 12:39 pm

      dont believe everything someone tells you.. natalee is not in california
      she is in aruba…

    93. Herman on March 10th, 2008 12:47 pm

      So I didn’t open my heart and feelings for something good for hothing?
      If that’s so: I really wish our Natalee a kiss and warmth and all her good luck!
      I do!
      And I thank God for saving her!

    94. misskatie on March 10th, 2008 2:56 pm

      where are do you live
      I detect a strong accent

    95. Patti on March 10th, 2008 6:48 pm


      Never mind Carpe and I…

      We have had our differences and still do.

      Doesn’t mean I don’t respect him, in a way.


      Don’t be silly…

      We’re, both, here to help.

      We go waaaaaaay back.


      So, it’s all cool.

      Besides, he’s a big boy,

      he can take care of himself.


      Miss Katie:


      an ACCENT?

    96. MY THOUGH on March 10th, 2008 9:33 pm

      he talks like he has his wording hahaa …ya think

    97. MY THOUGH on March 10th, 2008 9:34 pm

      his braille typing lol

    98. Herman on March 11th, 2008 12:56 am

      When I awoke this morning (it’s 7.50 in the early morning) I read you’re question. I live in the town Wageningen (where Worldwar II ended on the 5 or 6 of May 1945) and that’s in Holland.
      If you want, I’ll give you my e-mail:
      Bye bye

    99. Patti on March 11th, 2008 12:12 pm

      My Though:

      Yeah, he does have ‘wording’, but it is sort of cute how he poured his heart and soul into trying to find Natalee.


      Stick around, Herman…

      You’ll find her.


      Justice for Natalee

    100. misskatie on March 12th, 2008 3:44 pm


    101. Michelle on March 14th, 2008 1:19 pm


      Those are not pictures of Natalee Holloway. What kind of sick game are you playing? Natalee is dead. That sick bastard Joran is responsible.

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