RSSPatrick Van der Eem in Aruba for book & Aruban Prosecutors Want to Question him in Natalee Holloway Case
In Aruba they hold open the option to arrest the witness and not the prime suspect for questioning. Does anyone see anything just so amazingly wrong about every aspect of the investigation and prosecution of the Natalee Holloway case? It is like living in the bizzaro world. Joran Van der Sloot goes free while “Chief justice Hans Mos told the paper Van der Eem could be arrested if he does not come forward voluntarily”.
Welcome to the corrupt anti-world of Aruban and its justice system. Who is it that you should be questioning? Best yet threatening. Next thing we know they will be trying Patrick van der Eem for Natalee’s disappearance.
The Aruban public prosecutor wants to question Patrick van der Eem as a witness in the Natalee Holloway case, reports Tuesday’s NRC.
Chief justice Hans Mos told the paper Van der Eem could be arrested if he does not come forward voluntarily.
Van der Eem befriended suspect Joran van der Sloot and secretly recorded him confessing to being with Natalee Holloway when she died. He is currently on Aruba working on a book about the disappearance of the US teenager.
According to Van der Eem he has nothing to hide and the public prosecutor only has to ring him.
Infiltrator Van der Eem in Aruba for book (Amigoe 2/18/2008)
ORANJESTAD — Patrick van der Eem has arrived in Aruba, where he will tell an American writer his story about the declarations that he elicited from the Holloway-suspect Joran van der Sloot. His Dutch representative Peter Schouten confirmed this to the media yesterday.
A book will be published in the US with the story of Van der Eem (34). The title of the book is going to be ‘Disposed’. He already has an agreement with an agent of a publishing company. The first chapter will be published in the American newspaper, the New York Post.
Van der Eem will tell how he and his family experienced the undercover operation in the disappearance case of Natalee Holloway. Crime journalist Peter R. de Vries brought the entrepreneur from Almelo, Van de Eem, in as infiltrator to get the truth about the disappearance of the American teenager. According to Schouten, there is big interest for the story in the US. He sees a possible box-office hit with Van der Eem revealing the undercover operation.
Posted February 20, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Bizarre, Corruption, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, WTF | 159 comments |
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aruba sees Patrick as a thorn in there side I see them going after Patrick long before anything happens to urin.
I saw a movie once where the clan had to shut a guy up. They wrapped a towel around the victims head and gave him one with a #1 Wood (golf club) this kept the victim from dieing (and talking) The only drawback was a lot of drooling. I would like to see urin drool !!!
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its normal to arrest a witness if they don’t want to come forward (which app. is not the case here)
DIARIO had an interview with Patrick van der EEM. In reference to the person who helped
Joran dispose of the body Patrick says the following
“E prome dia cu el a papia cu Joran, a bisa, e no kier a bisa nomber. Despues di algun dia el a menciona Daury, pero el a bise cu tin cu cambia un par di leter. “
The first day that he spoke with him, Joran said, he doesn’t want to mention his name. After a few days he mentioned Daury, but he said you have to change some of the letters
Is it true that Dateline is doing the Holloway coverup this friday?
Does it surprise anyone that they are questioning Patrick and not Joran? It doesn’t surprise me. Aruba has pretty much made it clear they will do nothing no matter what they have on Joran, Paulus etc.
#4, I hope that is the case. America needs to continue to expose Aruba for what it really is.
This stinks the high heavens!
Unreal. Anybody that does NOT believe this new prosecutor has been “bought” needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
Until, all national media outlets in the USA, talk of a boycott, they will continue to jerk us around. Screw them and their sad little island of criminals and murderers. There are better islands in the Carribbean anyways.
#3 Very interesting…..guess the three stooges, pardon me judges..must have missed that when they skipped through the tapes while puffing away on their legal weed cigarettes and watching the latest porno production by Freddy or whoever.
Anyway thanks for the post and the translation..if it weren’t for some of you good guys we’d be even more puzzled by this mess.
Perhaps Hans Mos merely wants some pointers from van der Eem. Better still, perhaps he’d like to make him a job offer.
observer
I bet they want Patrick because he was driving while smoking the weed. That is illegal and it was taped, after all. Ain’t dat right Arlene?
(klaasend)
_________________
SM: Legal in the Netherlands
I hope Patrick has his information stored at a secret location and has protection cause these crazed people from Aruba may try to do something to him while he is supposely being questioned. Just a thought. I wish the US could step in and do something this is getting way out of control.
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Can anyone tell me why Hans Mos hasn’t arrested the following to provide witness statements:
Koen Gottenboes (provided an early statement but then his father would not allow additional statements)
Freddy (Freddy knows…why not question him?)
Guido (to my knowledge, Guido HAS NEVER provided a statement)
Mr. Gottenboes
Sander Gottenboes
Anita Van Der Sloot
The other Van Der Sloot spawn (Sebastian and Valentijn)
Geoffrey Van Croimvert
etc., etc.
Why can’t these people be arrested to provide additional information???
Why is Hans Mos threatening the guy who actually got the confession that exposes Paulus and all of the Aruban government actors that aided the cover-up?
OK…..dumb questions.
MD
OMG
vandersloots.com
ROFL
dgator
I THINK YOUR RIGHT.. THEY MAY TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO HIM.. I DONT TRUST HANS MOS.. HE… HASNT DONE ANYTHING.. BUT GO ON VACATION.. I BET THEY TOLD HIM TO DISAPPEAR FOR A FEW…AND I AGREE THIS IS GETTING WAY OUT OF CONTROL BUT WHAT THE HELL CAN WE DO.. I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS BEING TOLERATED… DONT THESE IDIOTS CARE ABOUT TOURISM… MONEY????
IT SEEMS SO WEIRD.. THEIR BX… NOT CARING HOW THIS CASE HAS CONTROLLED THE MEDIA AND THE WORLDS ATTENTION FOR SO LONG.. NOW I HEARD THAT BETH WASNT ALLOWED TO SUE THEM.. HOW SICKENING…. IS THERE REALY NOTHING POSSIBLE TO GET JUSTICE… WHAT A POLITICAL MESS…… SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING TO PAUULUS… KIDNAP HIM… BET JORAN WILL SING LIKE A BIRD.. OR EVEN JORANS MOTHER.. OH FORGET THAT IDEA… HE WOULDNT CARE…. SHES JUST A PUPPET ON A STRING….
Just to let you know, we are getting outstanding cooperation from authorities in New York for the protest.
Let Vicki hear from you, NY and NJ supporters.
Join the group for a few hours at least.
Natalee needs you!
JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com
Aruba is sick.
totaly pathetic,this island shoud be closed and return it to the netharlend autority,they are trying to stop justice anyway they can…
too late !!the truth has been surfaced all over the globe
SOMEONE
ANYONE
PLEASE ANSWER
WHATS THEIR MOTIVE BEHIND ALL THIS IN ARUBA.. TO PROTECT THE VANDERSLUTS????
IN SPITE OF THE ISLAND LOOSING LOTS LOTS LOTS OF TOURISM MONEY… DONT THEY GET IT… IS THERE MORE MONEY BEHIND ALL THE CORRUPTION THAN TOURISM.. BUT CORRUPTION DOESNT FEED THE LITTLE MAN.. THE SMALL BUSINESSES…THE HONEST FOLKS ON THE ISLAND???
PLEASE SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING
I like the vandersloots.com website… GREAT! lol
MISS UNDERESTIMATED
SMOKING POT IN THE NTHERLANDS IS NOT ILLEGAL
wouldnt it be hilarious
if everyone leaves the island because of joran and his daddy… and joran and daddy anita and other two vanderslut off springs are left on that island.. all alone.. pauulus scraching his head… he ran out of pay off money.. tourism fell the island vacated…
minnesota dad on February 20th, 2008 11:23 am
Can anyone tell me why Hans Mos hasn’t arrested the following to provide witness statements:
Koen Gottenboes (provided an early statement but then his father would not allow additional statements)
Freddy (Freddy knows…why not question him?)
Guido (to my knowledge, Guido HAS NEVER provided a statement)
Mr. Gottenboes
Sander Gottenboes
Anita Van Der Sloot
The other Van Der Sloot spawn (Sebastian and Valentijn)
Geoffrey Van Croimvert
etc., etc.
Why can’t these people be arrested to provide additional information???
Why is Hans Mos threatening the guy who actually got the confession that exposes Paulus and all of the Aruban government actors that aided the cover-up?
OK…..dumb questions.
I agree 110%, what do they think people dont know what really happened!!Get ur corupt cops and officals off the case!
I think it is fine, let Aruba continue to be a disgrace to the world. It only proves our case about the coverup of Natalee’s murder.
Let them continue to look like fools! Justice will come forth in the end for Natalee I believe that and am hope filled!
What total idiots….everone is watching this nightmare unfold and they think this is the best way to go???I cannot believe that any country can be so stupid as this one…they blame Natalee for their troubles….that girl…hmmmmm they are not even stuck on stupid anymore…they are just stuck…
My bad Klaas, I thought Joe T (when he was watching the taped CONFESSION of JORAN) said that driving while smoking weed, was illegal in the NL.
I hope you know the jest of my statement, that the LE would arrest Patrick based on this tape and not Joran.
Maybe we can get some judicial input from Julia?
MD I think it is part of Aruba’s system NOT to arrest suspects that they think are involved with a crime. They, will however, arrest people who are not involved in a crime ( 2 security guards).
Arlene was right, we just don’t understand the Aruban illegal system.
Why is it that they traveled to question Joran a few weeks ago yet they insist that Patrick come to Aruba or be arrested? Somethjing stinks, I hope he has a bodyguard with him.
Mos has the obligation to question the witness does he not? What kind of prosecutor would he be if he did not question the witness to the confessions. Pretty standard if you ask me. He also has the obligation to arrest anyone that is a witness in any crime if they do not appear when summoned. I as a US citizen that wants justice served would expect Mos to perform his duty and it seems that this is part of it. Not question the witness? Are you kidding? Why does he need to threaten this witness with arrest anyway? Why did he not immediatly report when summoned. I would think that he would be anxious to talk to the prosocuter of this case. Nobody said that he was being arrested for being a witness did they?
WHY WHY WHY would Patrick go to Aruba…is there no other country he could establish his book deal?
I can just see Aruba kingpins offerring Patrick more money than a book deal to stay quiet like they did the Kalpoes and others. Evidence disappears all the time in this case. Even the bone they found and piece of her blouse. They will ask to hear his tape and destroy it or discredit it or ruin it.
Has he no fear for his life?
They have proved to be unscrupulous.
No matter what….WE ALL HEARD THE TRUTH and Joran if not prosecuted..will now live in his own hell. He
Aruba will pay the price for covering for him & his family. Now Aruba must pay for their negligence in this matter…….BOYCOTT ARUBA
or YOU could be the next victim.
In a way I do hope Patrick is arrested. It would conclusively show just how morally bankrupt the Aruba version of the Dutch legal system truly is.
And an arrest of this nature would surely be illegal and subject the Arubanese to a legal battle that would certainly be costly and put a big fat compensation check for illegal detainment in Patrick’s pocket. Of course that will lead the wonderful people of Arubaland to claim that Patrick duped everyone for a monetary gain. This is delicious!!! It will be all Patrick’s fault and that will lead to more people boycotting Arubazuela.
First, Patrick is not a law enforcement witness. They have no jurisdiction over Patrick and he has not committed any crimes. Inventing crimes ain’t gonna do it either.
Second, shifting the blame to Patrick is not going to wash and the people of Holland will get an up-close view of how inadequate the justice system truly is. Protect the Sloots while harassing Patrick.
Third, With the continued threats against those that want to bring the Sloots to Justice, it confirms for all to see that the Sloots are some kind of special class of Dutch royalty. The whole clan belongs behind bars. Everyone knows that.
I remember a terrific quote from a blog in the beginning of the case – ‘there are no innocent Sloots, just ones that haven’t been convicted yet’.
Aruba – keep arresting innocent people and you’ll get your just rewards and a collapsed economy.
Why would Mos tell a paper this?
Why would he threaten arrest?
What the hell is this bunch scheming now?
Is this vandersloot clan worth looking this ridiculous?
What the hell is wrong with this bozo’s?
What a ridiculous threat to release to the media. It’s not exactly helpful to Aruba’s image to threaten to arrest someone who has been hailed as a hero by many people, and who has indicated nothing but cooperation with the authorities. Aruba just can’t help biting of it’s nose to spite it’s face.
The Dateline show this Friday features an interview with one of the Mountain Brook teens, a girl who (according to the blurb advertising the show) has never spoken out in public so far.
As for the need to “summon” Patrick, or bring him in from abroad … why is it that Koen G. and so many other people suspected of involvement, and who have left Aruba, can’t be brought back for questioning?
Not to mention van der Straaten, Karin Janssen, Gerald Dompig, and God knows how many others.
But they threaten the person who nobody has ever, ever, alleged is involved with the case.
Hey, Aruba … if he is put in jail, will you allow someone to smuggle a cell phone in to him?
Or is that a privilege allowed only to the sons of wannabe judges who destroy potential evidence (i.e., Joran’s Web site)?
By the way, Aruba … if P vdScum smuggled a cell phone into Joran’s cell … or refused to reveal what he knows of the case … or lied (oops, sorry, contradicted himself and then ‘corrected’ his statements) in remarks to the police …
doesn’t all this justify at least a temporary suspension of his license to practice law?
Oh, right, these claims have to be ‘investigated.’
Do we all remember that ALE was said to be investigating the cell-phone calls of Joran and others on the night that Natalee vanished?
That was nearly three years ago … have they ever released anything about them? I guess it takes a long time to gather information on Aruba; but then, it IS such a huge place….
Mos likely wants to question Patrick van der Eem about anything illegal in his own background, whatever it was that joran so admired……so they can hold it over his head and keep him silent. Afterall he is to visible……even aruba wouldn’t hang this one.
Where did you hear that Beth isn’t allowed to sue? I haven’t seen that.
I guess the bar isn’t so high for ACE to
arrest Patrick.
Patrick needs to record this questioning.
Wouldn’t that be great to get a tape of them
threatening and bribing him!
Richard #33 you are so correct in this case and have been since the very beginning.Auba seems to be spinning it’s tales and not getting any wiser. People that should have been interogated by the police weren’t. I knew that from the beginning spin. All aruba does is spin the attention. And it’s bad for them. Solve the case. Everyone has known from day 1 who is responsible. This is just another issue of “a lawyer can get you off”. Public opinion knows better. Aruba dug it’s own grave a while ago but they are so stupid they just keep putting nails in it. ARUBA – CONVICT THE GUILTY PARTIES.
# 21 KATIE on February 20th, 2008 11:50 am
Then the VdDitches would invite Chavez probably; he has his eyes on the Antilles (incl. Cuba) anyway…
We’re probably only there still to keep Chavez out of the region…
Strange that Aruba & the Netherlands can arrest an author but, can not arrest Sloot.
Guy writes book. Arrest him.
Group of Monsters make Nat disappear. Let them free.
What is next Holland? Start burning books?
Just like the Nazis!
mos is a loser
They are all Losers.
#29 Glad , although Patrick may have straightened his life out somewhat, he still is streetwise as one article said and almost no one can say that they do not need or want more $$ then they already have WHAT surprises me is that he would allow his family to be in Aruba with him .
NOW there’s the real danger that they might not be able to shake him but if his family is there and someone put one of them in jeopardy then if he has any sense at all he could be comprised by a threat of violence against one of them and that would be his own fault for vacationing there with them with all the publicity that he has been in now .
I am almost sure that everyone knows what he looks like now after the pictures have been published .
No Matter what you should NEVER put your family in danger or in harms way because the under world really does not care about that any more, unlike the old time Mafia where family ( women, Kids ect ) that was NOT involved was usually considered OFF LIMITS.
What if they try to put a gag order on patrick
while investigation is under way(that will be
next 50 years)
Give Patrick and family assylum in the US.
boycott ape’s hole
molly in houston
#8 Perhaps Hans Mos merely wants to buy 100 grams for 300 euros I mean that would explain how the polis works in aruba
If the Court decided that the Prosecutor’s Office still does not have sufficient evidence to warrant a new arrest, then Mos has to look for alternative leads in order to construct the evidenciary dossier that could get him an arrest order. So, yes Mos, go ahead and interrogate v/d Eem, you don’t have a choice.
# Saoirse on February 20th, 2008 1:19 pm
You clearly have a strange obsession with Nazism, Fascism, etc… (!?!)
Holland is a democracy.
Most dutch want to see Joran and friends behind bars as well!
Either you’re absolutely ignorant or just crazy comparing the NL’s with the Nazi-regime.
I think you have to try to imagine the situation this statement of Mos was said in. For example: maybe a journalist just asked Mos: “And what if VdMeen wants to save his info for his book?”
Do you know all of the backgrounds of this statement of Mos? Clearly not because your comparison of Holland with the ‘Third Reich’ is WAY out of line! Didn’t finish your school did you!?
UR ROBERT
HAHA TRUE
HEY ARE U IN EUROPE?
how do we reach the posters at the aruba.com msg boards to let them know about the moral side of not going to aruba, as opposed to them only getting ” dont worry, been coming for 25 years to paradise” ???? have you read them? monitered of course.
KATIE on February 20th, 2008 2:20 pm
Yes, I’m in Europe… With my binoculars on the look out for Joran!
EURobert,
You will not be able to miss Joran…
O(><)0
He’s the guy on his bicyle tooling around with a big Marihauna joint (BTW that was some big weed on the tape) wearing his Fidel Castro hat.
# Miss-Underestimated on February 20th, 2008 2:54 pm
Yes he sure looked like Ché…
Now I understand… The VanDerLefties are just paving the way for Chavez! OMG!
I would like it very much if not everybody jumped on my case all at once for what I’m about to say.
The last time I looked there was 1,250,000.00 out there for info about Natalee. If after 3 years no one has taken advantage of it, there never will be.
There is a boat searching relentlessly for her remains and whose crew is in dire need of some funding.
There are so many of the Monkeys who go all out to make the travel shows and spend their own money, not to mention the precious time.
There is Michelle who does everyting to keep the boycott out there, collecting signatures etc.
Why is the family/families of Natalee not allocating some of that money to the cause?
Without everyone here and all of the support, I don’t believe that we would be where we are to date.
All the print literature, the letter campaigns, keeping after the media for airtime etc have never been acknowledged by the families.
I think it’s time for a bit of thanks and I don’t mean a few words from Viet Vet who I believe is in no way connected to Natalee.
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SM: How do you know the family hasn’t contributed financially to some of the searches? FWIW, Viet Vet is exactly who he says he is. He was in Aruba with Natalee’s family. (klaasend)
Sorry salatkopf.
The Nazi link to your Queen Bea is there for anyone wanting to search for them.
The only question is – how high does the drug trafficking money reach?
What is interesting that while millions of innocent people were led to the gas chambers that the Netherlands decided it was to be “neutral”.
What kind of mindset is that?
That should tell anyone about how little they value millions of human beings, let alone one female tourist.
ArubaGate
HollandGate
ditto richard #33………just when you think that those pathetic, bumbeling(sp) idiots in aruba couldn’t get any more stupid……..they go and do it again!!
when will they get it? the whole world sees nothing but a circus of clowns parading around as government officials……….
Threatening to arrest Patrick, I’m sure talking to Hans was not a problem for him…authorities are just pissed because Patrick was able to get some answers…how ignorant of them to be so arrogant, down on your knees is more like it….
Why don’t you arrest Paulus for starters because of sneaking the cell phone into jail….that would definitely an obstruction of justice…something that Paulus is well aware of…does it all the time..
Saoirse on February 20th, 2008 3:21 pm
I was right: you didn’t finish your school!!!
You should write Salatkopf with a capital letter, you shouldn’t mention the alleged Beatrix ‘Nazi link’ without mentioning the alleged Bush ‘Nazi link’, idem ditto with the NL / USA drug trafficking money, we were occupied already for 2 years before the gas chambers were built.
Your score: 0
Saoirse-gate (…)
If you don’t mind… Please, don’t drag me any further into this stupid argument and your simplistic worldview!
Chris (#54) … I don’t know about your activities on behalf of Natalee over the last few years, but I have been busy writing letters and building on the demonstrations at Aruba Tourism Authority events ever since I started the first one in Boston about a year ago.
(For info, contact JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com)
Your assertion that the family have never thanked their supporters, or those who have written letters or campaigned on their behalf, is nothing more than tripe. I know this at firsthand.
Lady Di (#50) … In the literature that I prepared for last year’s protests, the following was taken from the Greta van Susteren blog of Aug. 6, 2006:
“Apparently the island is inundated with crime due to drugs. My husband and I have been going there for 12 years and have always felt safe until now. We were robbed of over $3000 worth of stuff on the beach last week during our visit.
“They try so desperately to keep it secret — I learned this from the natives. …
“Crime is rampant on the island and word needs to get out. WE TYPE MESSAGES ON THE ARUBAN MESSAGE BOARDS TO WARN THE PEOPLE AND THEY DO NOT GET POSTED.” (capitals supplied by me)
They can’t arrest Paulsloot for obstruction of justice.
Aruba has no Justice, so it can’t be obstructed.
Very strange to question Patrick. He doesn’t know anything, what they dont know now for years.
To me it looks more, they want to spin a new spiderweb around his story.
They better should care about the Oldsloot and arrest that guy.
If there was ever glaring evidence that Aruba operates and thinks like a typical uneducated 3 rd world kindergarten assembly, this latest outrageous insult to the outside world proves it.
These sand pigs are the joke of the world. They bumble along like children who operate in darkness and think no one see’s their absurdity. They will certainly deserve and enjoy everything that’s coming down the road to them.
Well I hope the expenses for Patrick’s travel came out of Aruba’s pocket.
Patrick maybe didn’t want to leave his wife and kids behind in Holland, or maybe his wife insisted on going…I’m sure where ever they go or whatever they do, they’ll stay close together….
mf Hans Mos
mf Jaan VanderStraaten
mf Nelsey
mf Rudy Croes
mf Steve Croes
mf any other Croes that I have failed
to include in my GENERALLLLLLLL
overall mf Croes theme!
(including, but not limited to, all the Croes’
on Aruba that are currently bangin’ branches off of their own family tree.)
mf the ahata, the ata, the A.L.E.
the aspca, aga, triple a, KIA,
double a, and any other agencies on that
awful island with the letter A
in their logos!
…
I wish they’d start lobbing in mf tank
shells on the Van der sloot house.
i hope they start dropping j-dams
on Mount Hooiberg,
….right as that lyin’ ass wind bag
mrs. kalpoe is shaving her ol’ rusty cooter,
…after she’s done I hope her
“happy zone” looks like B.A. Baracus’ mowhawk
from the old 80′s television show, A-TEAM.
….
mf the whooooole dang lot of ‘em on that island!!!
Never in A*L*L* of my life, have I ever seen
such nasty, small, evil, spiteful people with no souls & black hearts!
WHAT DID NATALEE EVER DO TO THEM TO DESERVE
TO BE TREATED LIKE SH?
A: Nothing. She went to enjoy herself with her classmates. Natalee & her family never did anything to warrant the treatment that Aruba has been dishing out for the past 3 yrs.
If any person CONTINUES TO GO
to that floating t-biscuit of an island,
after watching how they’ve abused & hurt Natalee Ann’s family
over the past 3 yrs…
God bless ‘em… they deserve what they get.
In summation:
I am still frequently finding, that it is in Aruba’s GENERALLLL DIRECTIOOOON, in which I choose to do some things… now open late with new extended evening hours, at 4 different locations throughout town for your ‘DO SOME THINGS’ shopping convenience!
-Pi$$ on ya!
What did the USA ever do to you people, to warrant such nasty treatment? US has done
absolutely nothing but provide Aruba with
about 70-80 PERCENT of their income over the years.
Thank you for being a “FRIEND?” -j4n
Saoirse,
By the way… Your name links to the ‘Boycottaruba.com’-site. But that site probably is the easiest way on the internet to get to all the different offices to book travels and vacations to Aruba?! What kind of site is that than?
Have to go to bed now; it’s almost twelve here… Good evening and good night to you all – you included Saoirse (…).
Yo Patrick,
Tell that faggity a$$ loser Hans Mos
to go blow an effing potato out of his rusty
exhaust pipe.
…
You’re a hero in my eyes, dude! Best of luck
with your book deal. Job well done.
Patrick if anyone mistreats you or your family in Aruba make sure it is spelled out loud and clear in your book….
The very Best of Luck ….can’t wait to read your book….your a good man and I bet a loving and caring husband and father….Bless You and Thank You….
Go Patrick!!!
#47- hoeplemen—– Excellent point you raise…duly noted!
Mos bores me to tears. I have no faith nor pay attention to anything he says. He is just a puppet at the end of the strings of all the corrupt and evil puppeteers! To be honest, kind of feel bad for the guy…even if he WANTED to do his job…seems that he is unable..
It’s all a massive smokescreen designed to tell the public what the Aruban goverment and legal officials think we want to hear. Still, most Aruban locals will not arise and stand up for justice since their livelihoods would be threatened. They need to survive and feed their own families there… very sad. I hope Anita & Papa Van Der Sloot are further made outcasts in their own society.
-J4N
#59 Richard, did you not think that I had you in mind when I talked about all the letter campaigns as well as the travel shows? I’ve given you kudos many times for all the things you do.
Granted I’ve not done too much, but to this day I’m driving around with Natalee’s picture on my back bumper along with the big Boycott Aruba sticker.
Other than a mention once in a while by either Beth or Dave about Scared Monkeys, I’ve not seen anything directly aimed at us. Sorry if that constitutes tripe.
EUROPE ROBERT
HAHA.. SAY ROBERT… WHATS THE FEELING IN EUROPE .. REGARDING THE VANDERSLUT CLAN…
KAYE
THEY NEED TO MAKE A MOVIE … PORTRAYING THOSE IDIOT JUDGES… AND THEIR MICKEY MOUSE LEGAL TEAM…NO DOUBT A MOVIE IS IN THE WORKS .. HOPE WHEN THE TIME COMES THEY WILL BE SEEN AS INCOMPETENT AS THEY ARE IN REAL LIFE…WHAT A JOKE… THE WAY THEY ARE SEEN BY THE WORLD. IS AS TOTAL DUMMIES… AIR HEADED… UNABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS… THEY REMIND ME OF THE SERIES .. MOVIE.. POLICE ACADEMY… THATS ARUBA 4U… EVERY TIME U SEE PAUULUS HE IS RUNNING TO GET TO HIS CAR….SWEATTING LIKE A HOGG…EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Hey…check out:
*** ** ** * vanderloots.com ** ** ** ** **
LOL..ROFL…LMAO..and all that other good stuff.
One exception- the sentence…”the people suck”
Not everyone from Aruba is rotten to the core. Most of the islanders are warm, genuine, people. Those who suck…would be those involved in the Holloway case that either ARE the problem (Joran, Paulus & Anita VDS & K2′s), are PART of the problem (accomplices, cronies, corrupt bastards) or do NOTHING ABOUT SOLVING THE PROBLEM (Judiciary branch/law enforcement). Not fair to lump everyone living there into these categories, however.
-J4N
Last but certainly not least………
GO PATRICK !!!!!! GO PATRICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patrick does have nothing to hide….like he told Mos—-just give me a buzz,ok?? LOL What a joke this whole thing has become and they should be embarrassed. What I love is that Patrick does not appear to be a man who minces his words so I am certain he will have plenty to say. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain….Mos doesn’t really want to hear what he has to tell anyway—they don’t want to admit what they have already known so there goes that BULLSHIT DETECTOR again from Hans Mos…….
WOOP ! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP ! WWOP ! WOOP !!!
Funny how that alarm keeps sounding.
-J4N
So you get 6 mos jail time for disposing of a body and only 15 yrs for murder….the place has got to be crawling with criminals…no one ever really goes to jail for a lengthy time…guess Posner thinks it’s a great place to hang out….
What really makes you mad is the sheer thought of anyone threatening Patrick when you’ve got Posner illegally living on the island and operating a business….that’s against Aruban law but it is not enforced for some people…
I think it’s high time the Aruban authorities are held responsible for what have done to Natalee’s family…..the so-called masters to be….rotten suckin’ pigs….
Wonder what else Paulus managed to sneak into jail for Joran…
Joran is released from jail and a big celebration at the Sloot’s, Straaten and all.
Lady Di. There are many travel boards you can go to for Aruba. To speak your mind about Aruba Trip Advisor travel message boards, MSN travel messgae boards. Lonely Planet boards, Yahoo boards. Craigslist Travel.
Hey Hans Mos,
u friggin’ idiotic uber-poozle. Your mother
called while you were out to lunch today! She
said stop being such a dang pussy, and learn how
to fold your own underwear and socks.
http://tinyurl.com/38mo8q
I am worried because there are so many corrupt officals who would just love to take Patrick out because of the video. I’m also worried that they would also like to see Persistence at the bottom of the ocean. Can they seize what Persistence recovers? There is more than just Natalee in those waters and there are no doubt a lot of nervous people on that crappy little island.
Carpe Noctem, you are so funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHqVRa_acxA
Sorry, but I have got to say it again….it was rotten of Hans Mos to tell the paper that Patrick could be arrested if he didn’t voluntarily come forward….there was absolutely no need for THAT whatsoever…shame on you Hans…I thought I’d like you but not anymore…you should apologize in public to Patrick….why would you even think after all he has done to find the answers about Natalee he wouldn’t talk to you…maybe it’s your freakin’ conscience …maybe we should threaten you Hans for not doing your job and removing Posner from the island….maybe you should be arrested if you don’t voluntarily come forward…
Your not a prosecutor, your a POS!
Hey Hans, does Mommy wipe your little butt…that’s how I see it….!!! You stink bad!!!!
aruba blows
Carpe is the best !!
Peter and Patrick, GREAT TEAM….go get ‘em guys!!
Oh dear, I think I’m really angry…Hans looked down on Patrick which was stinking, rotten awful. I believe Patrick wanted to do something good and decent with his life…and he did…so BACK OFF…your a f’n loser Mos….got it!!!!!!!
“Chief justice Hans Mos told the paper Van der Eem could be arrested if he does not come forward voluntarily.”
If they can send Aruban investigators to Holland (several times) to question Urine, then they can send them again to speak with Patrick Van der Eem!
Wouldn’t it be great if Patrick was really down there, on assignment, to get himself arrested with the intent of exposing the corrupt ALE first hand. Maybe he’s on that crappy little sandbar as a witness to what the ALE will do when Persistence finds Natalee. I hope that Peter plants wires and little cameras all over Patrick when he talks to ALE. Smile for the camera Mos. Say sleeze.
# 76…SS…….. Regarding your post on worrying about Patrick Van Der Eem’s safety….I think Patrick can handle himself and fears no one. Who is going to take him out? Think about it—if a hit was ordered by anyone on that Island–everyone would suffer in the end- so not going to happen!! You know, the trickle down affect—too many people would be exposed for their involvement. Clearly, the only one Joran incriminates on those tapes are himself, his Father and while he tries to exonerate the Kalpoes….I do not think Deepak is innocent.
As far as the Persistence goes, no one is going to do anything to the boat either. Unfortunately, I just don’t think they will ever find anything…(it’s been almost 3 years!…What are the odds?)
Your concern was sure sweet, though. =)
My money is on Patrick & Peter De Vries…
ALL THE WAY ! Patrick’s experience and his exposure in the media will at a minimum the heat on this investigation and keep JORAN in hiding! Like Beth said, Joran’s personal hell is only just beginning….and he deserves it all because of his selfish, cowardly and devious acts.
******* JUSTICE FOR NATALEE **********
GOOD POINT LISA.. THEY SEEM TO BE BUYING OFF EVERYONE AND MAKING XCEPTIONS FOR EVERYONE ELSE SO THEY SHOULD COME TO HOLLAND TO SPEAK WITH PATRICK.. DIRTY DOGS THAT THEY ARE INCLUDING HANS MOS
While nothing from Aruba’s legal system would surprise me, I took this statement to mean that Mos would like to talk with Patrick. Perhaps a reporter asked what if he doesn’t come in voluntarily and Mos said he COULD be arrested if he didn’t. In other words, I don’t see this as a threat to Patrick, just a statement of the legal process. After all Patrick has done, I can’t imagine him not being willing to talk to Mos. Anxious to read his take on the sociopathic sporter.
Lunar Eclipse
#54. Chris. There is some confusion on the 1,250.000.00 for the return of Natalee. Early in the case,June 05, a wealthy man from the USA pledged $1 million for the safe return of Natalee or $250,000. for the return of her remains. He would still pay off, no money was sent to the family/friends, just pledged and the man definitely has the money. He was/is sincere, trustworthy, and very well known. He does not want his identity given out unless Natalee or her remains appear. The only way the money will be delivered is if Natalee is delivered. So that money cannot be tapped for other use. And I am connected to Natalee, she dated my son, and if you have viewed the photos he is in them. Natalee has spent many days at my house and lakehouse, as has her brother and mother and Jug. I went to Aruba several times, my wife several, and my wife has been on many of the trips with Beth, like Holland, New York, LA, and on and on. I do not have any idea how much we have spent, but that is not something I care to count. Main thing is find Natalee and boycott Aruba. Scared Monkeys staff and members have given countless hours and spent money and Beth/family/friends are very appreciative. It is hard to believe this nightmare, but it has happened and there was a coverup from day one. I know you get frustrated Chris, and so do we, but we do recognize the supreme effort everyone has shown. If you folks were not doing what you do here everyday, Aruba would have won. Without support, we could not have gotten this far and we are not about to quit. We will fight for Natalee for as long as it takes, Joran and Aruba will eventually fall. There are many things they have covered up, but there are some things we know and will use them when the time is right. After learning they were destroying what we found in evidence, we have had to move to a watch and wait position. If I could give them something so solid, they would have to arrest Joran, it would be done. But it will have to be very strong, they are looking for any way out of not prosecuting and will continue that for as long as they can. We need the body, or another break I cannot mention. We will get one or both of them in time. Joran and Paulus should enjoy their freedom as long as they can, it may change for them. This has been a long and costly case for us and for Aruba/J,P,2K as well. Thanks so much to you folks for you dedication, hard work, and generous outpouring of funds and support. Together we cannot lose. I think we have some great support from the people of the Netherlands, they try to help us and Joran is not a popular fellow over there. Peter de Vries has opened the case for all the world to see, matters not if he makes money, it has helped. All you have to do is watch Joran throw the wine in his face and you really know what we have here. Peter along with most of his countrymen want Joran punished, the only bad comments we get from the Netherland posters comes either from Joran and his family or their close friends. Art Wood is very correct in his theory about the house of cards down in Aruba. Minnisota Dad, has great insight too, he is on track. So Chris, if you have any other questions, I will be glad to answer whatever I can. It is always good to inform as much as is possible, and I think it was fine for you to question. I have no problem with you, you are one of us and we have a good team……so Boycott, and keep on writing, it will all come back in time.
richard…. my point exactly. wont bother going into details of our past trips- trips that wont happen again (unless you want to hear about them) spent a lot of time on aruba message boards, for trip reports, weather…blah, blah, blah. NOW, i pop in occasionally to see what the topics are and it kind of saddened me to see that its as if natalee never existed.
thank you richard
daury, i mean PAULUS needed fuel at 3-4:00 am. where did he get it?
paulus was close to empty in the tank
fuel was needed
ps… making new visitors totally unaware of the cover-up of a human life, not a cover- up for, say, embezzlement, laundrying dirty money, or whatever…. BUT, the cover-up of disposing of another human life, for no matter what reason, is simply dispicable, inhumane, and quite frankly just wrong. it happens everywhere, yes, but when confronted with outstanding evidence, physical, or circumstantial- how can it be ignored? if it had been my daughter, or one of my sons for that matter, i guarantee i would be worse than beth. we were there a few weeks before this happened… my daughter, her friend, myself and my mom for spring break. it could have been us. how do we get to the people who only know of the positive blogs? im asking because it never occured to me to research to this level.
Look at this guy?!?!?!?
He doesn’t look like Joran’s type…
It’s hard to believe that Joran
would confide in HIM!
I can’t help but wonder if this was just another
way to hurt the family and to make more money on
another book deal.
________________________
SM: Huh? (klaasend)
viet vet:
We have watched your posts for a very long time inside the cage at scaredmonkeys.net and I commend your efforts for never giving up and telling others the truth. We will give that same passion this weekend in Boston as we will tell them exactly what Aruba has done to Natalee Holloway and her Family.
Almost a total eclipse.
BTW, look how friggen fast Boss Mos can move to get Patrick arrested but not Joran. Aruba you zipper is down and your stupidity is showing.
How can you arrest Patrick as a WITNESS, a witness to WHAT? Aruba as much said Joran did not confess, so what is Patrick a witness to?
Aruba you have no legal system. Aruba is a farce a fake island, a land where rapists and murders roam about freely. A land where Judges are just as vile and guilty as those they perps they protect.
Mr. Dompig your son Michael has something to say. Let him talk.
Daury = paulus
paulus – “you go home, you need to go to school tomorrow”
what friend of joran would ever tell him that ?
nope, it was paulus
make no mistake about it
joran drove home in the car that paulus drove in to pick him up.
satish –nawwwwwww
deepak — nawwwwwwwww
paulus and one other person in their own car came after joran left to go home in paulus car
remember when the “investogators wanted to know if joran ever drove a car?”
well, he did
that night
joran is a lie factory
54 & 90 I do not post much anymore; but I do read. I can never give up.
I cannot reveal the exact circumstances, but I was reassured that if a lead brought Natalee’s remains home to her family, the funds were set aside for THAT purpose. Anything more I do not profess to know.
Now don’t bash me for quoting Bret Michaels:
“You know you’ve got to stand for what you believe.”
I keep going over the part of the tape where Joran calls Natalee a bitch and whore, troubling.
So how many times Anita, has Joran called you a bitch and a whore? Too many to remember I bet.
Joran had problems with beating up his younger brothers. So how did Anita deal with it. Reward Joran to his own apartment. Like out of sight out of mind. I bet it was not so much to give Joran responsiblity, but more to get Joran out of your house, to keep his abuse from you and your sons, huh?
Bitch and whore, I bet she heard it from son and father.
After a few days he mentioned Daury, but he said you have to change some of the letters
———————————————-
change the u to a d and change the r to a d.
you have:
Daddy = Paulus
ITS PAULUS
vandersloots.com
excellent. can it be translated into Dutch/Papiamento ?
I, also, think that it’s wrong for Aruba to
arrest a witness that worked on a sting
operation…
I just don’t think Joran told the truth,
the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
.
We know who was there that night:
Joran, Steve Croes, Paulus, Charles Croes
.
Maybe using Daury’s name was a test to see if
Patrick was a rat. When you have a confession,
the facts have to match up with other types of
evidence. Joran knew this. There was no boat
that night… only a truck and a cage.
.
CAPTURED!
.
Perhaps PAULUS borrowed a boat, later in the week,
as reported by Michael Dompig…
Natalee wasn’t dead until later in the week.
.
Justice for Natalee!
___________________
SM: According to a poster at RU, MOS has come out and said that he didn’t say he was going to arrest Patrick. That story came from a paper in the NL and according to MOS is false. (klaasend)
Het liggen, Moorde Rotte Bastaarden
hoe iedereen kon liggen honderden tijden, bekent op videoband aan een moord en nog loopt de straten?
verbazend niet is het?
De waarheid komt als een vrachttrein. Kijk uit!
De waarheid is een Mooi Ding
4:00 A.M. verbeter is de Waarheid en wij allen weten het
de eigen advocaat van Joran weet zijn cliënt een moordenaar is en eisersjoran betrokken is bij dit vertelde.
de computer werd gebruikt om op drugs te kijken en alcohol
het missen telefoneert overal
ontbrekend bewijsmateriaal overal, kleren, de verslagen
van de verklaringentelefoon, getuigenverklaringen, schoenen
de waarheid was rechtsweg gekend toen de onderzoekers de ouders vroegen of had Natalee beslagleggingen. BULLSHIT het WAAKZAME WAAKZAME Aruba
toerisme van BULLSHIT daalt als een rots. waarschijnlijk verloren miljoenen onderhand.
Sloots is gehaat op het eiland, en in Nederland.
…viet viet…great post..nice to hear from you!!!
Klaasen (note to #106) … Standard Aruban tactic … what is advanced as true on Monday is amended on Tuesday, retracted on Wednesday, rephrased on Thursday, and restated as partly true on Friday. Of course, we don’t know if RU knows this to be accurate or is posting it for whatever reason, but nothing that Aruba has said has ever been allowed to stand unadulterated.
Chris (#59) … Nothing personal in this, at all.
But I inferred from your post that you seemed to think Beth and Dave weren’t grateful for all the outpouring of support that they have gotten from lots of people. I know that that isn’t true.
It isn’t that I am a shining star in the universe of Natalee supporters … it’s just that I’ve had a lot of contact with the family, probably more than many if not most. But I got the impression that you thought they were indifferent. As VietVet (#90) says, they are not.
I too still have the ‘boycott Aruba’ posters in the back of my car. They aren’t coming down.
And today I finished the handout that is going to be disseminated in Boston this weekend, and in New York City the weekend after. It looks like turnout for the Boston meeting, at least, will be on an unprecedented scale.
Folks, it’s so easy to post here, shrug your shoulders, and think that someone else will stand up. Just imagine if you had a loved one missing.
Support the protests in Boston, New York, and elsewhere. Stand up for Natalee! Boycott Aruba.
Spread the message.
Tonight on Greta she was talking to John Q. Kelly about the Natalee case and she said that our State Department should get involved in this. Does anyone know how to get in touch with the State Dept. and does anyone know exactly what they do?
…107..could we please have that in English…!
If Paulus was looking for drug/alcohol reactions on the web the day Natalee disappeared, I believe this a strong indication that she was both alive for quite some time AND at the vanderslime’s residence. Given their INDIFFERENT attitude towards Natalee’s disappearance/death, it would not in character for Paulus to be looking this information up, unless there was a chance he could find something to revive her. If she were already DEAD, he would have been solely interested in disposing of her body to protect Urine and himself therefore searches on the internet would have been not necessary since they had a FRIEND with a BOAT! Natalee must have been alive long enough to make this search worthwhile. If her death was not instant and Paulus’ searches indicated it wasn’t, then their lack of action in getting her medical attention is MURDER.
A more sinister possibility is that information Paulus found may have indicated that a revived Natalee would be capable of remembering of what happened to her to some degree. (Remember the other GHB victims that have posted already to SM that they had some memory of the events while under GHB.) Thus, it became necessary to ensure she was dead. Could this be the cause for Urine’s admission (on the video tape) that she may not have been dead when they dumped her body into the sea?
Thanks for the nice words above.
…but I’m not DIDDLY… LOL
Just happy to be able to contribute
something of value to team Natalee!
One more brick in Nat’s wall.
—
GRETA OTR / JQK tonight – vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Twi7-8OqS4
Hey, has anyone around here seen my GILLIGAN?
I seemed to have placed it!
Chris: We have been thanked, maybe not by individual name but we’ve been thanked by Viet Vet, Jug and Steve Holloway who post here from time to time to keep us up to date.
I would ask you to think about how much contact Dave, Beth and the rest of Natalee’s family gets and how totally impossible it would be for them to reach out to each individual or even each group involved. They have shared Natalee with us. They have shared themselves with us and many of us feel they are now our family too, Natalee is our daughter.
Personally, I need no thanks. I can be thankful that my children are safe and that I have never had to go through the horrors this family has experienced. It goes far beyond the loss of a lovely daughter. It has developed into hateful, spiteful, horrific speech and accusations against Natalee who can’t even defend herself and her family who merely want to bring their daughter home. Aruba has done everything they can think of in the way of dirty tricks and attacks on the victim and her family. They thought if they played hard ball bad enough, Beth would sit down and shut up.
We can be thankful that there is such a fierce woman on this earth. We know that Beth is now working to prevent other families from going through what she and her family have experienced.
The Holloway and Twitty family have spent probably an unbelievable amount of money (more than Aruba) in attempting to get justice for Natalee. How can we not give whatever little assistance we can.
I only wish I lived near Boston or NYC. I’d love to tell people about Aruba. I would love to be part of saving just one family from the nightmare wrought upon the Holloway and Twitty families by One Crappy Little Nightmare Island.
Possible interogation senario of Patrick V by Mos:
So Mr. Van der Eom, it seems you have taken it upon yourself to bring great shame and controversy to our Island, this is not good. It is now our utmost priority to undertake some damage control and discredit your validity. You can choose to cooperate with us or… perhaps find yourself in some precarious situations, if you know what I mean…so, now let us explore your options.
But, first it would behoove me to allow you the honor of sharing in one of your “happy sticks”, than we can than get down to business. So role it please.
Lisa (#113) … Another possibility is that Paulus disposed of her body, or helped someone dispose of her body, or arranged for someone else to do this, and knew that Joran was one of the three people last seen with her.
So clearly a story has to be prepared. Even though Natalee is dead already, an alibi has to be concocted to explain her death … and explain it in such a way that will be plausible, AND will point away from his son being the instrument of death.
In other words, since all American tourists are down in Aruba for booze and drugs anyway … or, at least, the ALE would be ready to think this … a story has to be made up that puts the responsibility for Natalee’s death on Natalee.
Not the result of ill treatment at the hands of Joran, possibly the Kalpoes, possibly others too.
Not the shock of multiple assaults, possibly coupled with worse things that we won’t speculate on. Nope, it’s just too bad that those American tourists WILL INSIST on boozing and drugging … can’t blame us poor Arubans for it, can you?
Katablog (#114) … Another thing to think about: the tragedy of Natalee’s fate, coupled with the outrage of the Aruban cover-up, impel us to do everything that we can to ensure that not one more American life is put at risk in Aruba.
That, in a way, is the legacy of all this. Not only do we want justice for Natalee … we want to ensure that the world is made aware of what the risks are in Aruba.
Never again should an American family have to endure what the Holloway Twittys have suffered.
Our government should speak up. It isn’t.
Our tourist agencies should speak up. They won’t.
Our companies who in theory serve travelers should be raging. They shut their eyes.
Only “we the people” are left. We (some of us) can speak up, and will.
For example … in Boston this weekend. In New York next weekend. And in other protests to come.
Stand up for Natalee! Boycott Aruba.
Why hasn’t the investigation looked into who supplies date rape drugs on the island. Small island ..can’t be that hard. Remember the comment the 3 said in the car while being taped
( near the first arrest) about teh automotive
shop knowing something. maybe they supply the drugs. Can’t they put an undercover narc
to work to find the drug dealers and give them a deal if they rat out Joran’s drug purchases.
Not like they haven’t had time.
Vicki on February 20th, 2008 12:00 pm
What total idiots….everone is watching this nightmare unfold and they think this is the best way to go???
…
Vicki,
At times, I think they are trying to drive Aruba
into the ground on purpose. It seems to me they
could not do a better job of trashing the island,
if they sat around a meeting table daily,
& drew up plans with a team full of consultants.
* It can’t be STUPIDITY, even a friggin’
idiot has a good day every once in awhile!!!
I here that tourism is down 13% to 18% since this happened. I would like to see a graph of the real numbers – maybe registration numbers of the larger hotels. And where are these tourists coming from?
Cant the Dutch apply presure on Aruba?
Why hasn’t the father of ‘urin’ been arrested for smuggling a cell phone to the kid?
I would like to see some candid interviews of locals in Aruba and the Nederlands to get a profile of opinion.
Is ‘urin’ in hiding? Does he have police protection? Does the Aruban Govt even want him to ever return to the Island?
I dont think ALL is lost, as I think the kid is probably experiencing a living hell. I just hope he doesn’t kill himself… Too easy for someone who has been at the core of such a travesty of justice. If he is guilty, as the gen public seems to feel, he has probably drugged, raped, and killed a bright, young American teenager. Heck, forget that she is an ‘American’ as it makes no diff. She was person. Someone’s daughter, Grandaughter, whatever.
Question: Explain the differences between Justice and the Law, and Justice and Revenge.
I am sorry for the innocents among the Aruban people. Money is power, and God help those that abuse it, for their day in His court will come.
In one of the calls to Deepak. Joran-stein told
that f’n pip-sqeek Kalpoe loser, that he and Nat
went into the water. Then he said she just
magically collapsed and fell asleep on the beach.
Is there anyway that fishtrap could hold her
body, plus weights of some kind & be carried out
into the water just a bit, & anchored?
Is there anyway Dilbert could do that on
his own, or did he need someone to help him?
Could he have waded out a short
distance, and then anchored it.
Marking the spot using Joran’s shoes, or the
hotel, or the FH as a locator marker.
This would be the set-up for a
better disposal solution coming
in the next 24 or 48 hrs or so?
…maybe he
Temporarily ditched it, until he could come up
with a better long-term plan of getting
rid of the body, 1-9 days later? His shoes
might be soaked in that scenario. Walking in
wet shoes can really be pizzer. hmmmm
-j4n
Is that the only BOWL
your mother has for
haircuts, Joowwwwan?
You have this Jim Carey, Moe Fine thing goin’
on, and it is not very flattering when you possess
a head the size of Mork From Ork’s Egg Spaceship
that crash landed in Boulder, Colorado.
It’s kinda like Anita wearing horizontal stripes.
She might as well be wearing a dang inner tube!
Don’t they have Super Cuts where you are, Joran?
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http://tinyurl.com/yqbhv5
http://contact-us.state.gov/cgi-bin/state.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php
State Department
Strange that 2K do not speak.
Maybe they are the ones that supplied the GHB. Later on by the pool, Daury Monster of Montanja the Elder the Sweaty of the Ditch tells them that they have to cover for the Monster of Montanja the Younger of the Ditch because they supplied the drug that killed her.
“That lie was for you….”
# 107 Dutch translator on February 20th, 2008 9:44 pm
That translation has some big flaws in it; for example it translates ‘lying’ with the dutch word ‘liggen’ which means lying as in ‘lying on a bed’ or ‘lying on the floor’. And some words and expressions we don’t use that way like ‘bastard’ (very seldum) and ‘the truth comes like a freighttrain’, we never use that comparison. So because you may gonna use that piece of text somewhere else, I translated it for you. Still not perfect but fluent Dutch at least… That’s about as far as my contribution of the boycott of Aruba (which is a part of my country) goes; don’t tell any of my countrymen I did it……..
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Liegend, Moordend, Schuim der Aarde!
Wie kan er honderd keer liegen, bekennen op video-tape en nog vrij op straat lopen. Verbazingwekkend niet? De waarheid zal je nog verpletteren. Let op!
De Waarheid is een Schone Zaak.
De Nachtelijke, 4 uur ‘pick up’ is de Waarheid en dat weten we allemaal.
Joran’s eigen advocaat weet dat zijn client een ‘killer’ is en heeft zelfs de Openbare Aanklager verteld dat Joran erbij betrokken is.
De computer is gebruikt om te zoeken naar ‘drugs’ en ‘alcohol’.
Verdwenen telefoons overal.
Verdwenen bewijs overal, kleren, verklaringen,
telefoon-records, getuigen-verklaringen, schoenen
De waarheid was meteen bekend toen de rechercheur de ouders vroeg naar de ‘toevallen’ die Natalee zou hebben gehad. • ONZIN WAARSCHUWING • ONZIN WAARSCHUWING •
Aruba’s toerisme zinkt als een baksteen, heeft waarschijnlijk al miljoenen verloren
De Van der Sloots zijn gehaat op het eiland en in Nederland
Joran heeft zijn familie geruïneerd, zijn vrienden, het toerisme en heeft de Nederlandse politie voor joker gezet en laten we ook niet vergeten de clowns in Aruba die nog geen olifant zouden kunnen vinden als die bovenop ze staat.
ARUBA ZUIGT
Het eiland is een beerput
Denk je eraan naar Aruba te gaan op vakantie
hier is een klein advies
DENK ER NOG EENS OVER – voor je eigen veiligheid
De hotels zuigen
Het eten zuigt
De mensen zuigen
De stranden zuigen
De politie zuigt
Het entertainment zuigt
Ga ergens anders heen en je hebt een betere reis, met een betere maaltijd, met betere service en veel veiliger. Onthoud dit: Aruba zuigt.
Dat is alles… voorlopig.
Aruba is een beerput.
Justice for Natalee,
Thanks for the link to the State Dept.! I am going to contact then and see if I can get a response!
@9, Klaasend,
It is legal (or better tolerated) to smoke weed. It is not legal however to drive under the influence of weed. Although Patrick will definitely not be fined for that giving the circumstances.
WORTH A RE-POST — FROM DUTCHNEWS.NL:
“Natalee affair hits Aruban economy
Wednesday 06 February 2008
The disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway and the ensuing police investigation has cost the former Dutch colony of Aruba tens of millions of dollars in lost income from American tourists.
The comment was made by the island’s prime minister Nelson Oduber on the Dutch tv current affairs show Nova on Tuesday evening. Aruba’s economy depends for 70% on US tourists, he said.”
GEE — YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT THING ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, OR ON ANY OF THE HUNDREDS AND HUNDRED AND HUNDREDS OF DAYS SINCE THEN. BUT EVERY DAY, YOU MAKE A CONCIOUS CHOICE NOT TO.
YEAH, ARREST PATRICK WHILE YOU LET ‘THE MONSTER OF ARUBA,’ URINE VAN DER SLIME, CONTINUALLY FLIT AND FLY, UNIMPEDED, ALL OVER THE WORLD AFTER HE
C-O-N-F-E-S-S-E-D O-N V-I-D-E-O-T-A-P-E
TO BEING A RAPING, MURDERING SOCIOPATH. (AND YOU WONDER WHY WE STAY THE HELL OUT OF ASCREWBA?)
THAT WOULD BE THE IMMEDIATE DEATHBLOW TO THE CAVING ECONOMY OF ‘ONE CORRUPT ISLAND.’
YOU PEOPLE ARE T-R-U-L-Y LAUGHABLE.
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
WHERE’S NATALEE?
The thanks I persoally get is when someone says to me’You are one of NATALEES ANGELS”. Its our DUTY as HMANE BEINGS to put a STOP to the EVIL MONSTERS on that VOLCANIC ASHE and get JUSTICE FOR NATALEE and he family. A young lady went to VACATION on an ISLAND and because of some PERVERTS she never returns…Thats not HORRIBLE ENOUGH, but then those friggin MORONS decide to torture the family. BETH has all of my respect as a MOTHER,and a HUMAN BEING to not give up and to fight this EVIL. Thats why I do what I do…Its not easy, but whoever said life was? I have come to LOVE BETH AND DAVE for the GOOD people they are. God knows I dont think I could have been so KIND AND GRACIOUS. These two ppl have humbled me and I still cry everytime I think about the lose of this wonderful human being who could have given so much to this world and the slime buckets who stole that from US….I want to thank everyone who has helped in some way to make these PROTESTS HAPPEN. God bless you all.
Thanks to everyone who pummeled me, especially Viet and Richard. I did expect a lot worse, but let me just say that I stand corrected.
99% is written out of sheer frustration and the other 1% is stupidity.
You don’t know how deeply I’m invested in all this, I get up in the morning and head for the computer, I race thru TV channels to see if anyone has a story about Natalee and I’m pretty much going nuts because they can’t/won’t put the criminals in jail, plus, I broke my ankle and it hurts like, well you know:-)
Mos went to the Netherlands to intereview Joran but demanding Patrick come to Aruba for questioning? Aruba, their judicial system, their government, the police, are corrupt beyond belief.
PS Why can’t our FBI and State Department get involved now that there is a confession on tape?
@ Donna
No, Patrick went to Aruba voluntarily because it is his home country and because of his book. While he is there, the Aruban prosecution would like to question him. Hans Mos did not demand Patrick to come to Aruba.
New FP post:
Natalee Holloway: John Q. Kelly On the Record … Civil Case & Where is the Missing Statements from Joran Van der Sloot ( Aruba Cover up & Corruption)
This would be STRIKE 2 for ALE …
R
after Joran slipped her liquid G, she got in the car and started kissing Joran. she didnt like the porn..wanted to see sharks or go to the beach one last time. they took her to joran’s. the others watched and filmed quietly as joran took advantage of a drugged girl. she came to a bit, noticed the other boys, both kalpos and koen. she fought as best she could, scratched joran pretty good. joran felt humiliated and snapped. he punched her. her blood lands on her shoes, then he strangled her. the others were in shock, they are now accomplices. they talk for 20 minutes and agree they have to get Paulus involved. He immediately makes arrangements to get her body on a boat. He makes up the story about the Holiday Inn as a distraction and plan B is we left her at the beach. he instructs the team on how to play this, he is an expert, he reminds them, they are accomplices too. he tells the kalpos to go home and created online record. We have all seen Joran snap, when he threw that wine. this kid is a monster and daddy took care of it. unfortunetely, its so easy to dump a body in an ocean, never to be recovered. i hope to god they find that body, but i highly doubt it. the shoes and body are long gone…
the govt cover up is astonishing. joran and paulus highjacked this island and it will never recover.
I’m a little late to the page, but….WHAT?
Let me see if I have this straight…ALE wants to talk to Patrick. They think he is a witness in this case? Patrick has said he will talk to them if they ASK him personally. ALE won’t ask him personally, just put out word they want to talk to him and if he doesn’t answer by coming in on his own they might arrest him?
Why can’t ALE just call Patrick and personally ask him nicely if he will come in at a certain time and speak with them?
This is so chickensh*t of ALE the way they sit back and make threats without even trying to talk to Patrick first in a nonthreatening way and seek his cooperation.
What is up with their laws that they have to arrest someone they believe is a ‘witness’ and refuse to ask them nicely to come in and talk?
What is in this word ‘voluntarily’ that ALE needs so badly? It’s Bull because obviously they don’t need ‘voluntarily’ if they can arrest him.
What could they want from Patrick anyway? They’ve already said everything he got from Joran was a lie? Why aren’t they just writing it off then?
If they believe all Joran said is a lie, then of what use is a witness to a lie?
And what is wrong with an investigator going TO Patrick and asking him whatever it is they want to find out? Why does Patrick have to go to THEM?
ALE has no rhyme or reason! They do whatever they want to do when they want to do it and conversely don’t do what they don’t want to do when they don’t want to do it.
I am obsessed with this story.
Please someone help me with a few details
1) Did J and 2K stop by another bar after leaving carlos with Natalie. I read one of the
brothers ran in briefly.
2) Why did the K2 say they washed their car
that night.
3) did they test the choc stain in the car for GHB
4) Why don’t the police there know who the drug suppliers are on the island.
Our government needs to step up and tell
Aruba to cooperate with an investigation into
this case OR Aruba will be an officially recommended DO NOT VISIT island for all
Americans.
I am dissapointed in our government for not
stepping up and helping to protect Americans.
mooi gezegt tegen die soa gast EURobert.
and no its not legal to smoke weed and drive (counts as alcohol)
and it would surpirse if he did get fined over that, our police just loves to fine ppl, they have to quote to fill
No problem, Chris. All that matters here is that we concentrate our wrath on Aruba. Every time that we deter someone from going there, it’s a contribution to getting justice for Natalee and a kind of moral action.
That’s how I see it, anyway. Some people disagree with the boycott, which is their right. I just ask them to present an alternative way to put pressure on Aruba. Haven’t heard one, yet.
EURobert (#125) writes: “Aruba is een beerput.” I don’t know what it means, but it sounds nasty!
NCTripp (#118) … Remember that Lorenzo van Rijn is widely believed to be a major drug dealer on the island. When the Dutch search team was over there late last year, he was arrested for a bit.
Then, apparently, he came to “some kind of understanding” with a Dutch judge. After two weeks in the slammer, he was let go.
They did find drugs and a cache of weapons when they raided his house, as I recall … but hey, why hold that against someone? (Though why he needs weapons on “one safe happy island” is beyond me … or maybe it isn’t.)
Amsterdam (#134) … Isn’t that kind of up in the air? The Telegraaf made the report that Patrick would be forced to go to Aruba; Hans Mos later denied the report.
Has the Telegraff retracted its story, or does it stand by it? If the latter, then it appears that Mos backed down.
John Q. has a very good point. Where are the statements? In this whole hellish mess, ALE is very responsible for the coverup. Someone down there needs to speak up and out about what the police really did… Case should have been solved the first day. It only took a few key people to wreck the whole investigation. The US State Dept needs to ask a few questions…
Richard: de beerput gaat open is pretty nasty
beerput is a well where the farmers used to store their manure (shit)
@ Richard,
Newspaper the Telegraaf reported that the prosecution would like to question Patrick while he is on Aruba and that (should Patrick not cooperate)it does not have to be voluntary (from the side of Patrick).
However should Patrick remain in the Netherlands, he would be questioned there (en thus not demanded to come to Aruba).
RICHARD
THEY R A BUNCH OF LIARS.. ALWAYS CHANGING AND RECANTING
NCTRIPP
I TOO AM SICKENED THAT OUR OWN GOVERMENT HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING TO HELP.. I RECALL WHEN BETH MET WITH CONDA LISA RICE.. NOTHING EVER BECAME OF IT… SHE MET WITH VARIOUS OFFICIALS.. STILL NADA
NCTRIPP
:):):):)
I AM JUST AS OBCESSED WITH THIS STORY.. IT SEEMS TO HAVE CONSUMED MY THOUGHTS.. I GO TO BED THINKING.. WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW AND PRAY MYSELF TO SLEEP.. I HAVE IT BAD!!!
NO MENTION OF THEM STOPPING AT ANOTHER BAR HAS BEEN RUMORED… ALOT OF STORIES AND ALOT OF COVER UPS.. WHAT A MESS ARUBA HAS CREATED.. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF AND HOW MUCH THIS CASE HAS EFFECTED TOURISM DOLLARS? PLEASE SOMEONE ANYONE ANSWER
131 CRIS
trust me thats exactly what i do.. i get up in the morning head to my computer… at work im here alot.. or scanning greta wire for info.. which there is none there.. she isnt as concerned as scared monkeys is.. i scan tv channels for nancy grace and greta.. they are the ones that mostly tell the viewers whats going on.. my main source of info is there and of course here at scared monkeys.. i just dont get it kris why why … is this not solved… its consuming me 100% .. THATS ALL I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY.. I GO TO BED WITH IT AND WAKE UP WITH IT..
#138 I will try to answer:
1) Did J and 2K stop by another bar after leaving carlos with Natalie. I read one of the
brothers ran in briefly.
Answer: yes, it’s been reported they stopped at a bar (think the name was “Choose a Name)and Deepak ran in for a minute.
2) Why did the K2 say they washed their car
that night.
Answer: Deepak said there was a problem with ants in the car.
3) did they test the choc stain in the car for GHB
Answer: original report was that blood was found in the car, samples were sent for testing and then Aruba reported it was not blood but chocolate and cleaning fluid. No report on GHB or testing for it.
4) Why don’t the police there know who the drug suppliers are on the island.
Answer: they probably do. In fact Gerald Dompig went to his brother in law Boeti and one point and contended that Boeti (a known drug addict who lives on the beach) supplied (sold) drugs to Natalee. But remember, Aruba likes to go after the witnesses, not the actual perps of crimes.
Katablog…thank you so much for those answers.
I thought I read somewhere that GHB can be made from cleaning fluid . If true it really makes me wonder about them finding a stain of chocolate and cleaning fluid.
WE NEED JUSTICE NOW!! alias KATIE on February 20th, 2008 11:43 am
SOMEONE ANYONE PLEASE ANSWER
WHATS THEIR MOTIVE BEHIND ALL THIS IN ARUBA.. TO PROTECT THE VANDERSLUTS????
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My guess is that it began as a favor for a friend, that they thought would not make big news. Remember joran saying he didn’t know the
F**** mother would not quit talking. Then
each lie and evidence tampering led to more to cover up the last one . Just my guess. Another possibility is that Paulus helps alot of drug dealers , mafia, and/or on the take officials .
They owe him so he called in a favor and now exposing everything would expose them as well.
Joran, I hope you jump three feet high every time you hear a car backfire,or a firecracker go off.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
133 donna, that’s a damn good question.condeleza rice told beth twiddy she would get someone to investigate but nothing ever became of it. if you go to the state department website under the travel abroad, “deaths abroad” they don’t even list an american citizen as missing or dead in aruba during may or june of 2005. there are phone #s to call, addresses to write. we need to bombard the state department with letters and phone calls and emails………..mass mailings maybe.
another thought…..if every person posting on this site every other Justice For Natalee site would do a mass mailingto the State Department, wording of your choice, maybe, just maybe they would start looking into this coverup. (what’s $41 for a hundred letters?) . i’m starting today.
patrick is a criminal,once a criminal,always a criminal.
this guy we know him ,he s a choller.
is someone that dont want to work, but seak every chance and ways to live of other peoples money.
Tommorow your kids will be drugged by a criminal.I want to see your face…
ARUBA DONT NEED YOUR HELP….
PATRICK IS NOT ARUBAN….
JORAN IS NOT ARUBAN……
BETH IS NOT ARUBAN….
DE VRIES IS NOT ARUBAN…..
GO TOGETHER TO HOLLAND AND SMOKE MARIJUANA ALL THEY LONG TOGETHER…..
PERSONA NON GRATA IN U.S.A. AND ARUBA///
dutch boy i really dont understand you…dont you have any family that if they were missing you would grieve…natalee was practically a child, her whole life was ahead of her….dont you have any compassion for her or her family
dutchboy on February 22nd, 2008 3:48 pm said…
“patrick is a criminal,once a criminal,always a criminal.this guy we know him ,he s a choller.
is someone that dont want to work, but seak every chance and ways to live of other peoples money.”
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So you are saying people cannot make mistakes,
pay the consequences, learn from them, and go on to live right. It seems to me Patrick worked pretty hard while exposing to the world that Joran is a heartless psychopath. I think he is a hero and so does the rest of America!!! I am so glad to know Joran even wanted to be rewarded with money for throwing Natalie into the sea alive.
Once a psychopath always a psychopath!!!!
OMFG!
This from the most hyppocrite country of the whole world.. Come on! Only criticism.. Like the USA is better. You guys cant even support your own country. At least WE have a stable system. The biggest nutjobs are from the USA. We watch then weekly on TV.
Every day some one gets killed!!!! What are you going to do about it? Boycot youre own country? And speaking about it.. Whats so special about Natalee? Other girls got killed on theire vacation.. What did you heared about them??? Nothing! Because they dont have rich parents.
All propaganda people!
I dont know what all the fuzz is about. Just another girl gone wild on vacation. With a not so happy ending.
BIG DEAL.
May god help your incompetent brain.
With love,
Save the helpless