Missing in Aruba: Patrick van der Eem Says … I Know Who Threw Natalee Holloway into the Sea


According to reports from De Telegraaf, Patrick van der Eem, the man who Patrick_van_Eembefriended Joran Van der Sloot and got him to confess on video tape, stated … “I know who has thrown the body in sea” … “Joran had asked me 2000 euro to silence that man.”

This better not just be a teaser for a book deal. If Patrick van der Eem does actually know who dumped Natalee Holloway’s body into the ocean, one can only hope that he shared this information with the Aruban and Dutch investigators and with OM Hans Mos. At least he better have shared the individuals name with Natalee’s parents, Beth and Dave Holloway.

‘Friend’ knows who dumped Natalee

But instead he was recorded saying that he knew who had dumped Natalee’s body at sea and that Van der Sloot had asked him for €2,000 to buy the man’s silence, the Telegraaf reports.

Van der Eem was also heard saying he had known Van der Sloot for several years. On Peter R de Vries’ tv programme, he claimed he befriended the Dutch student in a Nijmegen casino in 2007.

Patrick van der Eem, I know who threw Natalee in sea  (Amigoe: 3/6/08)

ORANJESTAD — Patrick van der Eem, who lured Joran van der Sloot in the trap on hidden cameras, was self also secretly filmed.  After an interview in Aruba with a local TV-station, some risqué statements were elicited from Van der Eem, because he thought that the cameras were stopped, reported De Telegraaf today.   

“I know who has thrown the body in sea”, says Van der Eem in Papiamento to interviewer Poentje Castro.  “Joran had asked me 2000 euro to silence that man.”

The criminal undercover asserted further that he himself has organized the entire operation.  “I have thought of everything; how the environment must be furnished with microphones and plants.  From hidden mini cameras in plants to even the internet- and telephone connections that were tapped.”

Van der Eem also says that he expects to become a millionaire with this entire case.  “And I will make sure that Joran and his entire family take nose-dive.  They can better immigrate to Africa”, threatens Van der Eem. 

The interview took place late last month as a result of the book that Van der Eem is having an American journalist write.  The maker of the programme Un Dia Den Bida said before De Telegraaf:  “I have taken two cameras with me.  I had one turned off after the interview, and the other kept on rolling.  Van der Eem didn’t know that the camera was rolling and he kept answering my questions.”  The entire interview will be transmitted on the Aruban TV tonight. 

Patrick van der Eem is by now back in the Netherlands and could not be reached for comments yesterday.  Nieuwe Revu in the Netherlands had the films translated.  The transcriptions of the document are on the website of De Telegraaf.  The most important passages are in bold.

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  • Comments

    87 Responses to “Missing in Aruba: Patrick van der Eem Says … I Know Who Threw Natalee Holloway into the Sea”

    1. buster on March 7th, 2008 7:42 am

      Africa would be good, The urin8er would fit right in.

    2. Wang cares on March 7th, 2008 8:21 am

      Yeah, really nice guy this Patrick….


      One of your heroes, is he? Figures…!!!

    3. katablog on March 7th, 2008 8:25 am

      Read inside the cage last night (see message below) and I agree with those who say:

      1. When Patrick said he “knew” who threw Natalee in the ocean, that he most probably meant he “knew” like we believe we “know” – just putting two and two together to make four.

      2.The Aruban telecast was probably stopped by Patrick because it was an incorrect translation and therefore an incorrect conclusion to what he said and meant. This was probably done because Aruba is totally desperate to discredit Patrick so their favorite son Joran the sporter can still shine in their eyes.

      3. He wasn’t correctly translated as saying he knew Joran for years. His sentence about this was probably meant “IF I had known him for years and didn’t do anything”.

      The other possibility in my mind is that Patrick was perhaps saying that he’d known OF Joran for years (since they are both from Aruba) either because of the allegations against Joran or because Patrick actually had heard of Joran and his treacherous family while on Aruba.

      Now about the cage: I hate trying to read in there because there are so many total repeats of previous posts so it takes a lot of unnecessary time and effort. I know, it’s your cage and you can do whatever you want. This is just my feedback as to why I rarely come. If all those posts weren’t repeating the previous posts, you’d also save on server resources.

    4. Elle L Smith on March 7th, 2008 8:26 am

      Why don’t they arrest Patrick for obviously lying about knowing Urine for a longer time than stated and get down to business. Offer Patrick more money since that’s what he wants and then maybe get a name.

    5. katablog on March 7th, 2008 8:27 am

      Oh yeah, also wanted to remind SM Red and crew that they keep referring to “One Happy Island”. That’s also a translation problem. It’s suppose to be: “One Crappy Island”.

    6. Carpe Noctem on March 7th, 2008 8:30 am

      By ‘silence’ I believe we’re talking

      about a ullet bay to the onads gay.

      Yo MATONNNNN, only 2,000… dangggggg!

      Where u think you issssss, playa…


      Were you also gonna use a coupon

      or Greens Stamps with that?




    7. Dolf on March 7th, 2008 8:51 am

      as sad as it is Joran would fit nicely in most parts of Africa.

      sad for Africa that is.

    8. Nut44x4 on March 7th, 2008 9:36 am

      Go home WangHung. You are one to talk!!!

    9. Judy Mc on March 7th, 2008 10:06 am

      Even if Joran told Patrick who dumped Natalee the Aruban Government would say that it was heresay without proof. It’s going to take the Persistance coming up with evidence. Just hope they don’t run out of money.

    10. jgirl on March 7th, 2008 10:25 am

      Even though Patrick got Joran to talk on tape,
      (true or not), he is a self serving scumbag himself. All he has seen are the dollar signs himself. He is a lowlife just looking for royalties. I don’t see him concerned with Natalee or her family. He has no class.

    11. Carpe Noctem on March 7th, 2008 11:00 am

      - NUMBER 24 -




      *Whichever day that video of the Marriott
      Basin was recorded. She was in it, you’re
      looking at her. I hope you are taking that
      into consideration with your timeline.
      It is Nat.

    12. Richard on March 7th, 2008 11:01 am

      I agree with Katablog … if someone said “I know who took care of Jimmy Hoffa’s body,” and they were pressed for an answer, the reply would probably be something generic such as “the Mafia” or “a hitman.”

      He also might have been speaking off the top of his head. As I said in an earlier thread, it defies logic that this accomplice/accomplices would suddenly, after nearly three years of silence, start making demands.

      My guess is that Joran was just trying to hit him up for some cash.

      And Patrick may have been “feeling his oats” … hey, I’m an important guy now, this is my 15 minutes of fame. I’m going to throw something out there that will give me another headline.

      The fact that he did the right thing in working for deVries does not make him the model of perfection. As Geraldo Rivera said, informants often are not priests, saints, martyrs or totally unsullied people.

    13. Richard on March 7th, 2008 11:04 am

      And as noted before, I’m pretty sure that he hasn’t talked with Joran van der Scum since the release of those tapes. So if he knows the accomplice/accomplices by name, either he was told that information back in January or has somehow learned it since.

      In either case, if he didn’t go straight to the Dutch or Aruba law enforcement and give out that information … why not?

      The last that we knew, he was supposed to be, or supposed to have been, questioned by Aruba. Any information on that?

    14. MY THOUGH on March 7th, 2008 11:18 am

      i will be gone for the evening and day
      can u please let me know what this talk about joran and africa? im confoosed..!!
      this is bazaar .. what patrick is claiming … dunno what to make of it.. be back later..

    15. Libby on March 7th, 2008 11:24 am

      Something isn’t setting right with this Patrick guy. I don’t know what it is…but something isn’t right.

      #9, I think Persistence ran out of money. Unless I read it wrong, they are on their way home till they get more funding. Anyone know if I am wrong?

    16. Carpe Noctem on March 7th, 2008 11:26 am

      #5 kata

      “One Happy Island”. That’s also a translation problem. It’s supposed to be: “One Crappy Island

      Sing it, sister… it is da truth.

      Aruba to you from me,

      with much love…

      GO BITE IT!

    17. Richard on March 7th, 2008 11:29 am

      I’m moving this up from a prior thread to remind people of the protest in St. Louis this weekend.

      The issue that concerns this board is not the character of Patrick. As Geraldo Rivera said, usually informants aren’t perfect human beings.

      Let’s not be diverted from our concern, though.

      Patrick and deVries captured Joran giving the same story in a series of tapes … something that completely erases his earlier statements about not knowing what happened to Natalee.

      He said that he helped an accomplice/accomplices put her body in a boat. That makes him a witness as well as a suspect. We’re told that under Dutch law, suspects can lie but witnesses cannot.

      Of course, it’s the Aruban interpretation of Dutch law that counts. And we’ve seen for the last three years what THAT is.

      A complete, brazen, and still-continuing cover-up as the Caribbean judges mumble to themselves.

      There’s no excuse for not supporting a boycott of Aruba. Some people in St. Louis will be demonstrating for that this weekend.

      No justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba.

    18. yoyo muffintop on March 7th, 2008 11:53 am

      Maybe Patrick is actually Larry Garrison in disguise.
      When Mr. Garrison was hawking his book “Newsbreakers” he got on all the shows by claiming a “Deepthroat” was coming forward in the Holloway case and he knew who this deepthroat was. Nothing from Mr. Garrison since.

      Next time this Patrick dude is on TV maybe he will pull a “Mission Impossible” and rip his mask off to reveal his true identity.

    19. Susan on March 7th, 2008 11:54 am

      # 9 and 15 – The RV Persistence is heading for its homeport in Louisiana due to lack of funds, but will return when funds become available.



    20. always 1 on March 7th, 2008 11:59 am

      im with Richard, I think Patrick is all about the money…but I still go back to the basics….I believe Natalee went with the three boys, they all had their way with her, something bad happened, this says they did not mean to kill her…they buried her, cleaned up the car and went home…end of story, they didnt take her to the house…noone put her in the ocean…think about that for a minute….Richard you seem to be the brightest on this blog…its what 80 degrees in Aruba…what would the soil temperature be on a given day….I dont beleive they went back and dug the body up and took it to the ocean….were not talking about a clean plastic body on CSI…a body thats been underground in 80 degrees….that didnt happen…this accident happend fast and that didnt look back…..

    21. nctripp on March 7th, 2008 12:00 pm

      Everyone knows… of course he knows…
      daddy did it!!

    22. Carpe Noctem on March 7th, 2008 12:00 pm

      can u please let me know what this talk about joran and africa?

      — He’s going to get in touch with his
      “inner wigger.” When he gets back from
      safari, he’ll have a lower lip that drags
      on the ground… ‘cuz the natives will be
      showing him how to put a plate in his
      mouth, & pierce his nose.

      The Lion sleeps tonight! A weema wacka, weema


    23. always 1 on March 7th, 2008 12:05 pm

      and by saying ‘accident” im not letting them off the hook, Im just saying i dont believe they were cold blooded killers…I do believe they tracked young girls and did everything they could with them but I dont believe they have killed other people… I could be wrong of course…

    24. nctripp on March 7th, 2008 12:13 pm

      Always 1…
      It does sound like you are letting them off the hook …if you agree they track young girls and rape them then date rape drugs are not a huge leap…to me that makes them cold blooded killers. You become a killer on you first kill..it doesn’t take other murders to make it cold blooded.

    25. always 1 on March 7th, 2008 12:22 pm

      I see your point Nctripp, but I think they were guys with raging hormones who have no respect for females, and do not have the morales you have, but I go back to the original transcript where 3 young men are in the worst trouble they have ever been in their life, and they are accusing each other….I believe this is where human beings would tell the truth….and they said “something bad happened” you hit her with the car, and you see the ghost of the girl in your cell….

    26. always 1 on March 7th, 2008 12:41 pm

      and then Joran wanted drugs, and Patrick wanted money and fame….the two got together, Joran got his drugs, started feeling loose, owed Patrick a favor so he gave him the story….Patrick gets his money and his fame…but the story is not real…..appease me Richard….tell me I could be right…

    27. Vicki on March 7th, 2008 12:44 pm

      24- of course you are right. If they had any KIND ofupbringing AT ALL, they would have treated girls with respect. Instead of less than HUMAN..These PIGS are EVIL and VICIOUS COLD BLOODED KILLERS and I for one pray they ROT in HELL for what they did to this precious ANGEL..Had they left her alone, she would be ALIVE and WELL..FILTHY ANIMALS all of them…

    28. ldstlou on March 7th, 2008 1:05 pm

      “Wang cares” apparently is too vile for even the most vilest…wangs own words…

      “That being said, and while the bruises from my embarrasing smackdown heal, I find it absolutely deplorable that there seems to be a cadre of posters here who appear to function soley as shit stirrers.”

      Look who is calling the kettle black? roflmao!!

      Crawl back in your hole wang chung!! we don’t want you here at Scared Monkeys either!!!

    29. Sharon Chicago on March 7th, 2008 1:42 pm

      #25 always1…. Your analogy is a bit off…otherwise we could apply it to all rapists who have “gone a step too far”to murder…why I only meant to rape her not murder her attitude… Murder is murder…. killers always cross the line at some point and end up murdering their victims. Some start out strangling their pet cat or dog and then move on to humans.

    30. MF on March 7th, 2008 1:43 pm

      Is there a truthful person out there that is involved with this case? Maybe Patrick wants Beth and Dave to offer up the reward money for the information he says he has about who dumped Natalee’s body. He has to have some ulterior motive to not have disclosed this information when the tapes were first released. I think back on watching the show on ABC, when he is crying that he feels so sorry for Beth and the rest oif Natalee’s family. Even though at the time I felt it was an insincere performance on his part, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. Again, I ask, is there an honest person out there that only actually cares about doing the right thing and having no dollar signs attached to it?

    31. Mike on March 7th, 2008 2:01 pm

      Africa has enough diseases. They do not need anymore.

    32. yoyo muffintop on March 7th, 2008 2:16 pm

      #28 – Huh???

    33. JusticeforNatalee on March 7th, 2008 2:51 pm

      Joran still SAID WHAT HE SAID on those tapes.

      It doesn’t change what Joran said or did.

    34. Sharon Chicago on March 7th, 2008 3:17 pm

      I am so glad Patrick was willing to be taped during his conversations with Joran…this has
      cast a true image of how vile Joran really is to
      the public…

      If Patrick makes money off of his book who cares..it only helps Natalee’s cause for him to write this book…

    35. katablog on March 7th, 2008 3:49 pm

      Yeah it looks like money has possibly gone to Patrick’s head (and that’s a shame) but it doesn’t erase the tapes where Joran confesses a second through 11th time. But I do believe the program didn’t air not because of death threat (face it, you can get protection for physical threats) but because of a legal threat because there was mistranslations of what Patrick said or things that could be interrupted in different ways.

      I can’t for the life of me see someone feeling comfortable profiting off a horrible tragedy that has given Beth and Dave just a living hell.

      But I guess that goes back to another thread where we are talking about the state of society, willing to put criminals in office because the criminals will benefit them.

    36. EURobert on March 7th, 2008 3:54 pm


      (Transl. Google Transl. & me.)

      The report that Patrick van der Eem would know who the body of Natalee Holloway would have thrown in the sea, seems to be a misunderstanding.
      Various media reported Thursday about statements that he would have done in papiamento, following an interview in an Aruban talkshow. But it seems that the statements by van der Eem, the infiltrator who led Joran van der Sloot to his confession, were translated wrong.

    37. dave on March 7th, 2008 4:12 pm

      #32- Duhhh *%#@! TROLL

    38. yoyo muffintop on March 7th, 2008 5:31 pm

      #37 – I like it better when you use your self-proclaimed real name: “SUPER DAVE”. Lol.

    39. dennisintn on March 7th, 2008 7:07 pm

      this affair with patrick is just another example of aruba tourism’s attitude toward natalee.

      bring in the psycho psychics and play them up to be investigators and detectives and spread their garbage all over the airways of the world. anything that tries to play the “blame the victim” card is hailed as the word of god.

      anybody or anything that points the blame where it belongs they try to destroy.

    40. always 1 on March 7th, 2008 7:51 pm

      what do the kalpoe brothers do for a living?

    41. Bob on March 7th, 2008 7:57 pm

      LOL…how’s those NY Trade Show results working?

      Unconfirmed sources report that the Aruba Tourism booth managed to book only 4 vacations in 2 days. How’s that R.O.I. doing? Perhaps they might snooker a few nice folks up in Boston, but New Yorkers gave them the Bronx cheer.

    42. Open a Window on March 7th, 2008 9:17 pm

      always 1, I just do not believe the beach story at all. Why go to a public, sandy beach when you have a nice clean, safe, house available? No worries about witnesses. Also, too many stories about a bloody mattress, Joran’s younger brother saw a girl in the bathtub, a cell phone call from Natalee with “noises” in the background (some say it is related to a bird or monkey in the neighbor’s house), buckets and buckets of Paulus’ sweat, to name a few things. No, I think old Joran has this routine down, especially when mommy is away. Also, look very hard at the photos in the basin and tell me that what happened to Natalee was in any way “accidental”.

      I see the general thought that the rapists drugged her and she just died, but I have a dark evil feeling about the extent of the assault on her, and about who else is involved and that just doesn’t translate to “raging hormones”.

    43. always 1 on March 7th, 2008 9:58 pm

      you could be right Open a Window..i was just trying to get people to brainstorm with me, get some new ideas…..its nice talking to you again though….

    44. Richard on March 7th, 2008 10:38 pm

      EURobert … The issue of mistranslation is raised again. Somehow it seems that it always comes up whenever Aruba is involved. We’ve been hearing this claim as often as the old hoary adage, “You just don’t understand our system.”

      If there is any merit to the claim of mistranslation, could you post what is perceived to be an accurate translation? Thanks much!

      Always1 … thanks for the good words. At this point I simply don’t care to speculate any more, being in no position to prove or disprove anything. The one seemingly solid thing that we have to go on is the work of the Persistence.

      Let’s help the Persistence finish its search. Tim Miller and Art Wood could be right, or could be wrong. If the job is left unfinished, neither we nor Natalee’s family will ever know.

      The other important thing, of course, is the boycott. Let’s do what we can to make sure that Aruba knows: we will never abandon our quest for justice for Natalee.

      Perhaps you don’t believe there’s a cover-up, and has been since day one? Fine. Then look at what Aruba has accomplished in three years … absolutely nothing … and the lies, half-truths, evasions, and contradictions it has given us.

      This in itself is strong evidence that NOBODY SHOULD GO TO ARUBA.

      Do you believe that there is a cover-up, as most of us do? All the more reason to avoid Aruba.

      No matter what we think … Aruba is no fit destination. Let’s do all we can to tell people: No justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba.

      Contact JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com for more info.
      Support the Persistence … and support those people who are showing up at demonstrations to push the point home, as well as those who are preparing handouts, tote bags, sweatshirts, and who are paying the costs of shipping, as well as volunteering their time and paying their hotel bills and transport.

      If we don’t stand up for Natalee, who will?

      Boycott Aruba … it’s only common sense.

    45. bob on March 8th, 2008 12:04 am

      I believe Patrick is lying. He doesn’t know who dumped the body and Joran didn’t ask him for money.

    46. kaye on March 8th, 2008 8:48 am

      #33 Justice for natalee……you’re right on the money…..joran said what he said. Patrick, nor anyone else forced him to confess. who cares if partick makes a little money off this whole deal…..he was able and willing to do what no one else had the balls to do, including the aruban government. period. perhaps he will donate some of his earnings to Persistence……

    47. Sharon Chicago on March 8th, 2008 9:15 am

      46..Kaye… I totally agree with you… who cares if Patrick makes money or not.. He did a great job and I for one am grateful that he was willing to work on this sting operation. He did not have to.

      He has a story to tell so it is in book form who cares. It cost to have books printed and I hope he makes money for him and his family. That would be a blessing.
      Blood money to me is making a profit from someone you have harmed not helped!!! So glad his book helps to keep Natalee’s story alive.

    48. Wang cares on March 8th, 2008 9:42 am

      #8 Nut44x4, there must be something wrong with your spell checker. You don’t seem to be able to type my name correctly….By the way, I have NO clue what you are talking about! Why am I one to talk…do you know who my heroes are?

      #28 ldstlou, I have said this before, but I’ll say it again as you obviously missed my previous messages about this: I AM NOT THE SAME PERSON AS WANG CHUNG!! So I’ll ignore the rest of your absurd message and keep posting here as long as I want.

    49. katablog on March 8th, 2008 10:24 am

      #40 Deepak is a “manager” at the Internet Cafe in Aruba. Last we heard, Satish was still trying to pass high school so he could be a doctor some day.

      Suffice it to say, their biggest job right now is suing Dr. Phil. I keep waiting for the announcement that the suit has been dumped because they can’t produce the documents that Aruba won’t release which the Court said are critical to the case going forward.

    50. kiltie65 on March 8th, 2008 10:53 am

      The Van der Sloot/Africa thing. Could it be that the VDS family HAVE to get out of Dodge? I’ve read on the blogs that the VDS have been asked to leave their home for the night in Aruba since feelings were running high and they were at risk. Joran’s bachelor pad at the Aruban house has been vandalized. I doubt Joran would ever be able to show his face permanently in Aruba, and if so, not for long…maybe feeling there is he, too, needs to be “silenced”. Also saw via a blog, so no substantiation, Anita won’t be teaching at that International School in the fall, and that the younger boys are getting their names legally changed. Maybe the family is headed for some Dutch colony in Africa. Probably the only country that would take them at this point, since perhaps the story is not well known there. Possibly Patrick Van der Eem heard this from Joran, since Patrick is the one mentioning Africa. Just a thought.

    51. dennisintn on March 8th, 2008 11:12 am

      jvds wasn’t looking for a nice guy to befriend. patrick and peter never pretended that patrick had a past and could play the part of someone jvds would be attracted to.

    52. Carpe Noctem on March 8th, 2008 12:12 pm

      Hey Dennis,

      When 20/20 played all of those tapes

      I bet ya ‘Nita Sloot filled themzzz

      dainty, frilly undies of hers, that are big enough

      to pitch a f’n mess tent at a Boy Scout cookout.

      when that ABC 20/20 footage

      of him acting & speaking like a F-ING ‘MONSTER’

      aired, I think it blew what little of a mind

      she had left.

      Long live fantasy, Anita!

      DELICIOUS SPORTER up on this…

      Your son attacks defenseless, comatose females,

      rapes & brutalizes them,

      & then throws them away when he’s done…

      Congrats Mrs. Sloot, u just scored the

      mom of the year award! Where should we send

      your black roses?

    53. Wang cares on March 8th, 2008 12:21 pm

      Carpe Noctem, you are SICK!

    54. So the Aruban & Dutch Media Think Patrick van der Eem is Worse than Joran Van der Sloot? … No Media Bias Here or Agendas | Scared Monkeys on March 8th, 2008 12:28 pm

      [...] The conversation with Van der Eem was recorded two weeks ago.  A second camera kept rolling after the interview, and Van der Eem evidently didn’t know this.  That movie ended up on YouTube (VIDEO I, VIDEO II, VIDEO III), and Nieuwe Revu had the interview translated into Dutch.  Van der Eem said at certain point during the interview that he had known Joran van der Sloot for years.  He also said that he knows who had thrown Natalee Holloway into the sea.  [...]

    55. Carpe Noctem on March 8th, 2008 1:50 pm


      Howza ’bout ya stop me when I get to the part

      that is not the truth!

      Joran is sick, & he needs curing. Sooner or

      later that li’l son of a…

      is going to get exactly what he needs.

    56. jango on March 8th, 2008 2:00 pm

      Hi there, I’m new here and posting from the Netherlands. If you are looking for the correct translation of the Castro/Patrick tape, I’ve got one. I’ll post it in dutch for now and will be happy to translate. I’m working on that.

      This is it:

      deel 1
      Globaal vertaling film 1:
      Tele Aruba Rolling seg 1A Patrick van der Eem
      Op youtube onder de accountnaam van Gensing7000 te vinden

      C:Wie is Patrick van der Eem

      P: Mijn vader is in Nederland geboren en heeft vele jaren op de Antillen gewoont,Curacao en Aruba.Ik ben niet getrouwd heb een vrouw en 2 kinderen. Beide kinderen hier op Aruba geboren.Ik voel me meer Arubaan dan Curacoanaar. Maar ben zelf in Curacoa geboren.Over mijn werk wij helpen mensen bij noodsituatie wegenwacht, trekwagens etc.

      Dan heeft Patrick over de VS

      C: In de VS word je als held gezien. Maar je werd niet in het land toegelaten. Wat is hervan de reden?

      P: Ik heb in de verleden veel dingen gedaan. Was drugsdealer al op 15 jarige leeftijd en toen ik 20 was heb ik 11mnd gezeten. Dit was 14 jaar geleden.Mijn gezicht was tijdens een gevecht met een gast die een machete had verminkt heb hem kunnen stoppen met mijn hand. Ik heb ook een snee in mijn vinger. Dit incident is niet in de gevangenis gebeurt. Het is niet een leven dat ik wilde. Nu heb ik een vrouw en 2 kinderen en een goede salaris etc..

      Castro begint over de verborgen camera actie van Peter R de vries

      P: Ik kende Joran maar 7 maanden van die 7 maanden ging die zogenaamde student maar 1 dag naar school. Die jongen rookte alleen maar weed

      Castro begint over het geld bedrag die 25.000 die hij van de vries ontving bla bla verhaal is al bekent.

      P : Geld is niet alles. Vroeger dacht ik dat geld alles was. Joran die denkt dat geld alles is. Mijn ontmoeting in de Casino met Joran. Ik spreek de talen Engels, Nederlands etc. De Nederlanders aan de goktafel begrijpen natuurlijk niet wat maton betekent. Zo kreeg ik Jorans aandacht. Joran heeft me daarna benaderd en vroeg me voor een sigaret. Ik heb Joran aan paar mensen geintroduceert die hem goedkoper weed verkopen.

      Castro vraagt hem over de ontmaskering van Joran of Patrick denkt dat alles wat Joran vertelde een leugen is

      P:Nee hij zei waarheden maar met ook leugens erin. Daury heeft hem niet geholpen. Er zijn zeker andere personen bij de verdwijning betrokken. Maar dat is iets wat Joran nauwelijks wat info over geeft. Hij houdt die informatie voor zichzelf.

      Castro vraagt aan Patrick wie heeft de opzet gemaakt van de vragenlijst jij of Peter de vries of beide?

      P: Het was een samenwerking. Ik heb veel respect voor Peter hij heeft me erg goed geholpen. Die joran heeft totaal geen respect voor die meid. De hele wereld kon het zien van even naar beneden kiken of ze dood was of het kon ook epileptische aanval zijn

      Vervolg vertaling film 2
      Tele Aruba Rolling cam 2 Patrick van der Eem
      Film te vinden op Youtube onder accountnaam Gensing7000

      Castro zegt dus je hebt wel met iedereen al een conversatie gehad. Kan jij mij je tel nummer geven en je e-mail adres zodat ik je kan informeren wanneer dit allemaal word uitgezonden.

      P:0031607209 wacht wacht

      Castro biedt patrick een biertje

      P: Nee.
      En Patrick gaat door met het geven van tel nr en email adres
      Daarnaast zegt ie de politie weet veel.

      Castro zegt dat ie niet in deze zaak wil mengen. Maar zegt dat de zaak stinkt en dat men al bijna 3 jaar mee bezig is. Dat de zaak gesloten was en nu weer heropent.
      Castro zegt daarna dat ie aan Joran gezicht kan zien in de opnames dat die jongen weet dat Patrick info van hem wilt. En dat Joran acteert.

      P:Toen ik hem zag in de casino dacht ik als ik hem heb laat ik hem niet los. Ik pak hem.

      Patrick vertelt over het aftappen van telefoongesprekken en internet en dat er een grote groep aan deze zaak werkt. Een grote groep die aan een groot probleem werken.

      Patrick: Die jongen is ongelovelijk. Hij is een slechte jongen en zal daar overheen komen en nog slechter worden. Die jongen heeft een probleem. Gewoon raar. Die meid is gestorven

      Castro verteld aan het einde dat die peuk geen weed was maar gewoon sigaret en wanneer de hele filmfragment uitgezonden zal worden bla bla bla

      Vervolg vertaling film 3
      Tele Aruba rolling seg 1B Patrick van der Eem
      Te vinden op youtube onder accountnaam Gensing7000

      P: die jongen heeft elke keer alles bij elkaar gelogen ongelovelijk. Hij wilt gewoon niet zegge wat ie heeft gedaan met die meid. Misschien gangrape. Die meid is zeker niet aan een natuurlijke dood overleden. Waarom heeft hij de ambulance niet gebeld. Dit is de vraag dat iedereen zich afvraagt waarom hij dat niet heeft gedaan.

      Castro vraagt aan Patrick of hij nog contact heeft met Joran

      P:Wie wil nou vrienden zijn met zo’n gast. Ik heb van die 7 maanden die ik hem kende ook met hem gelachen. Alles wat Joran doet is niet slecht. Maar ja, wat hij gedaan heeft. Aruba is erg klein. Een ambulance bellen waarom heeft hij dat niet gedaan


      Castro is just another horses’ass. He’s trying to mess up the investigation for certain people by trashing Patrick. (the Aruba way)

      Furthermore Patrick said in the secretly taped part that he knows who threw Natalee in the sea. This guy would now be living in Rotterdam and in hiding with Joran in Germany right now. link below:


    57. Carpe Noctem on March 8th, 2008 3:35 pm


      thank you for your translation postings & time.


      Furthermore Patrick said in the secretly taped part that he knows WHO threw Natalee in the sea. This guy would now be living in Rotterdam and in hiding with Joran in Germany right now. risky below:
      The Van der Sloot/Africa thing. Could it be that the VDS family HAVE to get out of Dodge? I’ve read on the blogs that the VDS have been asked to leave their home for the night in Aruba since feelings were running high and they were at risk. Joran’s bachelor pad at the Aruban house has been vandalized. I doubt Joran would ever be able to show his face permanently in Aruba, and if so, not for long.

      If I could, I would buy a
      Stinger missle off E-Bay.

      I would boat there, even if
      I had to rent a damn canoe.

      I’d shoot that dirty mother load right through
      the van der sloot’s f’n living room windows…


      I’d flatten those sadistic beyooootches flatter than a mfn IHOP pancake.

      The Van der sloots are in luck, E-Bay
      does not carry them anymore!

      I AMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM FURIOUS at what they have been allowed to get away with concerning the crimes committed on Natalee.

      F U R I O U S

      My stomach churns everday over what they did to her. I believe I can see more than some others of what they actually did to her.


      Not because she’s an American, not because she’s
      pretty, and not because she’s white.


      A GOOD ONE.

      Unlike that little Vandersloot POCKET KNIFE WIELDING, psychotic, blood drinking, rabid pitbull SOB, that Anita & Paulus raised.




      GET THE F OUT. imo


    58. jango on March 8th, 2008 3:37 pm

      Castro/Patrick tape translation

      Part 1
      translation video 1:
      Tele Aruba Rolling seg 1A Patrick van der Eem
      On youtube found under account name Gensing7000

      C: Who is Patrick van der Eem
      P: My father was born in the Netherlands and has lived many years on the Antilles, both Curacao and en Aruba. I am not married, but I have a girlfriend and 2 children. Both children were born here on Aruba. I feel more an Arabian then Curacaos. But I myself was born on Curacao. About my work, we help people in emergencies, stranded beside the road, etc. .

      Then Patrick talks about the USA

      C: In the USA you are regarded a hero. But you were not let in to the country. What is the reason for that?
      P: I have done many things in the past. Was a drugs dealer at the age of 15 and when I was 20 I spent 11 months in jail. This is 14 years ago. My face was mutilated in a fight with a dude who had a machete, I stopped him with my hand. I also have a cut in my finger. This incident did not happen in jail. It is not the life I wanted. Now I have a girlfriend and 2 children and earn well etc.

      Castro asks about the hidden camera thing with Peter R de Vries

      P: I have only known Joran for 7 months, in these 7 months this so called student only went to school for 1 day. This boy only smoked weed.

      Castro asks about the money, the 25.000 he got from De Vries ( bla bla we all know this story).

      P : Money isn’t everything. In the past I thought so. Joran thinks money is everything. When I met Joran in the casino. I speak the languages English, Dutch etc. The Dutch at the gambling table don’t undertstand what ‘maton’ means of course. That’s how I got Jorans’s attention. Joran approached me and asked for a cigarette. I introduced Joran to a few people who could sell him cheaper weed.

      Castro asks him about the unmasking of Joran; if Patrick thinks that Joran was telling lies.

      P: No. He told the truth, but lies within. Daury did not help him. There are for sure other people involved in the disappearance. But in this Joran is hardly giving any info. He keeps this information to himself.

      Castro asks Patrick who made up the list of questions, Patrick or Peter de Vries or both?

      P: It was a cooperation. I have much respect voor Peter, he has helped me very well. That Joran has totally no respect voor this girl. The whole world could see, just looking down if she was dead or it could have been a seizure

      Translation video 2
      Tele Aruba Rolling cam 2 Patrick van der Eem
      on Youtube under account name Gensing7000

      Castro says “So you have talked to everyone. Can you give me your phone number and e-mail address so that I can inform you when this will be aired.

      P:0031607209 wait, wait

      Castro offers Patrick a beer

      P: No.
      And Patrick goes on giving phone number and email address. He says the police know a lot.

      Castro says he doesn’t want to get involved in the case. But says the case smells fishy and that they have been working on it for almost 3 years. That the case was closed, and now reopened. Castro then says he could tell by the look on Joran’s face that the boy knew Patrick wanted info from him. And that Joran is acting.

      P: When I saw him in the casino, I thought, if I have him, I won’t let him go. I’ll get him.

      Patrick tells about tapping of phone calls and internet and that a large group is working on the case. A large group is working on a big problem.

      P: This boy is unbelievable. He is a bad boy and will get over this and become even worse. This boy has a problem. Just strange, This girl has died.

      Castro says at the end that the cigarette isn’t weed, but just a cigarette and when the video will be aired.. bla bla bla.

      Translation video 3
      Tele Aruba rolling seg 1B Patrick van der Eem
      on youtube under account name Gensing7000

      P:This boy has lied every time, unbelievable. He just won’t tell what he has done to the girl. Maybe gangrape. This girl certainly did not die by natural causes. Why didn’t he call an ambulance. That’s the question everyone is asking, why he didn’t do that.

      Castro aks Patrick if he’s still in touch with Joran

      P: Who wants to be friends with a dude like that. I have had my laughs with him in the 7 months I have known him. All what Joran does isn’t bad. But, yeah, what he has done. Aruba is small. Call an ambulance, why didin’t he do that.


    59. jango on March 8th, 2008 3:46 pm

      Arabian = Aruban of course :P

    60. Patrick G. on March 8th, 2008 4:45 pm

      Thanks Jango!

      No matter what happens in this B.S. investigation, Joran has ruined himself, his family, and a country! Nothing will change that!

      He will live life always looking over his shoulder and WILL be brought to JUSTICE on his Judgement Day!

      Screw you, Aruba!

    61. bob on March 8th, 2008 7:08 pm

      #42, I’d like to know more about bloody mattresses and Joran’s brother seeing a girl in the bath tub. Where does this info come from?

    62. jango on March 8th, 2008 7:30 pm

      Thanks Carpe and Patrick, my pleasure.

      The ABC islands are just a headache to us. The Dutch should just let go of these crappy little corrupt drug islands. Now there trashing Patrick, so I guess the heat is on for those involved.

      BTW, does anyone know where Wever is living now? Back then he fled to the Netherlands and hired one of our top lawyers. This lawyer has been attacking Peter R. de Vries on TV. Kept saying the tapes were illegal and wouldn’t be allowed as proof in an court of law. De Vries and this lawyer were on the P&W show together (the same show where the wine incident with Joran had occured)and they had the most strange argument. Made me wonder then why the lawyer was making such a big deal of it. Makes me wonder now if Wever is the one who Patrick means in the Castro tapes. There is one listed in Rotterdam.

    63. Wang cares on March 9th, 2008 4:37 am

      Carpe, just to let you know, I’ve sent your comments
      to the FBI. You are a real sicko!

    64. kaye on March 9th, 2008 8:36 am

      #61 bob……google “natalee holloway bloody mattress” there are a dozen articles about the mattress. i found the one titled “aruban dirty police-jossy mansur-yes, they all had sex with her”……” most interesting.

    65. SS on March 9th, 2008 9:16 am

      For the posters on the forum… Are the Cromvoirts possibly in Rotterdam?

    66. buster on March 9th, 2008 9:39 am

      Good for you Wang !!! Stick up for what you believe in !!! Plus the FBI could use a good joke now and then.

    67. Richard on March 9th, 2008 10:24 am

      Thanks to the Dutch people who posted these excerpts and are translating them.

      #50, I’m not so sure I believe what we heard from Aruba … about feelings running high against the van der Sloots, and that kind of thing. Aruba has manipulated and distorted all the news on this case since day one … what makes them suddenly honest now?

      My suspicion is that it’s yet another attempt to try to convince Americans that the “average Aruban” citizen is on our side and wants justice.
      And I don’t think that’s the case.

      What will change my mind? Well, for just one thing … since PvdScum has been lying … when will his license to practice law be revoked?

      Never? Fine! Never is when our efforts to promote a boycott of Aruba will end.

      As for the troll Wang … remember, that’s just another four-letter word. Get it?

    68. SS on March 9th, 2008 10:37 am

      Did Paulass go to the bank at 4 AM to withdraw cash in order to pay the person who took the crab cage out to the ocean?

    69. Open a Window on March 9th, 2008 11:10 am

      bob, kaye ‘s advice is good. Google will lead you to the stories. If others have links handy, then please post. (re: bloody mattress and JVS brother saying he saw girl in the bathtub.)

    70. brie on March 9th, 2008 11:30 am

      Jango….you are so appreciated for your help…thank you so very much and God Bless You for translating for us….

    71. always 1 on March 9th, 2008 11:42 am

      thanks for the message Katablog

    72. SS on March 9th, 2008 12:14 pm

      At one point Geoffrey Cromvoirt was arrested for his involvement with Natalee’s disappearance. His father is a friend of Paulass and he owned a big security company on One Crappy Island. It was rumored the son, Geoffrey, was a drug dealer who provided drugs to Urine. He was also working for a water sports company and he would have had access to the types of boats that Urine described in his conversation with Patrick. Does anyone know if Geoffrey Cromvoirt is in Rotterdam? Is this the person who Patrick is talking about?

    73. brie on March 9th, 2008 12:16 pm

      Guildo and Koen are both in Holland…I think if anyone else is hiding with Joran it’s Koen…he had a boat…and it was in the water. Koen can’t come to the US because he’ll get arrested. Paulus has definitely played a part in all of this, the lying he did about that night and the withdrawal of funds from the ATM. I think Guildo is guilty of something….maybe he got caught stealing from the casino and got fired but he left the island before he was suppose too.

    74. brie on March 9th, 2008 12:47 pm

      The Gottenbos’s are relatives of the Sloot’s….I don’t think the Cromvoirt’s were involved with her disappearance but I think Posner was angry with Cromvoirt’s over some security issue. The Cromvoirt’s are in the US, I think Geoffrey is in Holland and his sister is still in Aruba. But I don’t think there a friendship between Joran and Geoffrey. As Joran said he has known this person since they were babies, the could only be Koen or Sander or both.

    75. SS on March 9th, 2008 12:53 pm

      #73 brie

      You have a good point. Shango said that the Dice Men must be questioned. Guildo Wever was a croupier at the Excelsior and he is now reported to be in the Netherlands. Did he have a boat?

    76. misskatiekatie2u.. ALIAS MY THOUGHTS on March 9th, 2008 2:11 pm

      whats this about the vandersloots possibly moving to africa.. and anita not teaching any more??

    77. Carpe Noctem on March 9th, 2008 3:48 pm

      Carpe, just to let you know, I’ve sent your comments
      to the FBI. You are a real sicko!


      Wang, please. All they have to do is read 3 of your limp wristed postings consecutively…

      …and they will then proceed to laugh their nards off, & toss your emails down the johnny hopper, where they belong.



    78. Susan Maddern on March 9th, 2008 6:36 pm

      I will not rest until I see Justice for Natalee Halloway.These animals who have names but in my eyes are cold blooded killers and Aruba is letting them get by with murder.Someday we will have Justice for Natalee and it’ll come soon.Joran van der sloot your day will come and you’ll pay for this crime. Sue

    79. Carpe Noctem on March 9th, 2008 9:27 pm

      always 1 on March 7th, 2008 7:51 pm

      what do the kalpoe brothers do for a living?

      Take up valuable space.

    80. always 1 on March 9th, 2008 9:37 pm

      good one, carpe noctem, youre a little rough around the edges, but i like you……

    81. MY THOUGH on March 9th, 2008 11:05 pm

      The kalpoe brothers look and act like geeks.. to present to be eager for acceptance.. maybe jurines won their friendship by spending daddys money on them..

    82. Wang cares on March 10th, 2008 7:22 am

      #67 Richard, my name is not Wang, it’s “wang cares”. Now google that and you’ll know why I chose it to post on this board.

      As for Carpe, I’m not Aruban and don’t live there either. In fact, I’ve never even been to Aruba. However, if something happens to the van der Sloot family (whom I’ve never met either), I’ll make sure they come knocking on your door first.

    83. bobbie on March 10th, 2008 9:31 am

      #81, ha! They say “You can’t judge a book by its cover” — but one’s first impression of the Kalpoe brothers is that they look like a combination of totally overcompensating insecure dorks and the scum of the earth. Basically the kind of guy that grosses every girl out completely. Sucks to be them.

      I have a random question: what about the bartenders at Carlos and Charlies? Were any of them questioned to see if they remembered drugging a drink for Joran, Natalee, or the Kalpoes on that fateful night? If one of the bartenders did remember drugging a particular drink for the suspecting parties, couldn’t he be allowed to confess to the cops without being punished for his crime, just to allow new evidence to the case? Does anyone know if this was done?

    84. Carpe Noctem on March 10th, 2008 1:17 pm

      They would come knocking after the parade, the magic show, and the after party, featuring clowns and balloon animals!

      Nobody would care if someone
      toe tagged them this

      The guilty Van der sloots should be
      exterminated by Truly Nolen.

      “They are cock-a-roaches.” -Scarface

    85. Wang cares on March 11th, 2008 2:46 pm


      “The guilty Van der Sloots”???!!! I didn’t know that there has been a conviction in a court of law?

      Fortunately, that is still the only thing that really counts. Both in your country, Aruba and in my country.

    86. mary on April 20th, 2008 7:24 pm

      my friends just returned from aruba and the taxi driver told them that Joran has been admitted to a physiatric ward. Also that arub wants Joran’s parents to leave the island. Is this true?

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