RSSNatalee Holloway: Joran Van der Sloot … “I was High on Drugs During De Vries Tape” … Yeah, Sure You Were
JORAN, YOU WERE NOT HIGH … YOU WERE CAUGHT!!!
Who are you kidding Joran, if you were high on pot the Range Rover you were riding in it would have looked like this “exclusive” photo below. It’s time to face the fact Joran, every one thinks you are guilty and are involved in Natalee’s disappearance. Its not just in America, but in the Netherlands and Aruba as well. As Jossy Mansur has previously stated,
“No one believes his story about being under the influence of marijuana because he never stuttered, never hesitated, his eyes didn’t become vague or unfocused, he was in complete command of himself all the time.”
(Pic Hat Tip: Klaas)
So first Joran Van der Sloot admits to the world that he had involvement in Natalee Holloway’s death and disappearance. Then, when the secretly reported tapes are released … Joran Van der Sloot states that he was only telling Patrick van der Eem what he wanted to hear as if he knew that he was a crime reporter. Then, we are given yet another excuse stating that Joran was high on pot when he made the admissions.
Joran Van der Sloot claims he was trying to impress Patrick, trying to be a thug life player. However, no where during any of the taped conversations does Patrick portray an individual who is impressed by what Joran is saying. If anything, Patrick is more appalled that Joran and his friend would have gotten rid of a body without knowing where Natalee was dead or not.
It is obvious that Joran Van der Sloot is a calculating liar. He tells just enough of the story to make himself sound tuff without divulging the details and exact names. Joran Van der Sloot is not stupid. However, just because a person has changed the names of certain people who had involvement in the crime, does not mean that there was not a crime committed.
(Dumpert.nl … Even the Dutch want no part of Joran)
It seems that many of our Dutch blogging “vriedens” at Dumpert.nl also agree that Joran Van der Sloot is responsible and complicit in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. They believe he is lying as well and are doing some great blogging on the story.
Posted February 10, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Bloggers, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Jossy Mansur, Missing Persons, Murder, Natalee Holloway, World, WTF | 59 comments |
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After the show of Peter, a DJ wrote a simple song about Joran. Roughly translated:
My name is Sloot
My name is Joran, Joran van der Sloot
And my friend has a very nice boat
And sometimes I take someone with me
A blond girl, her name was Holloway
She started to shake
I could not do anything
So I dumped her at sea
But now I say I didn’t
It was my friend with his boat and banana
I really didn’t do that
After some porno I went asleep
My name is Sloot
My name is Joran, Joran van der Sloot
And my friend has a very nice boat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P45nFclcFZg (search for “Joran boot” for more videoclips)
Will somebody please lock yp that sorry piece of trash before he hurts somebody else. Also put Paulus away too they are both inhumane!
Joran is not only a calculating liar, but a killer.
He needs to be incarcerated, if not put down.
Along with his two mutt friends.
As I said in the last thread, I’m doing some research to write up handouts for the upcoming ‘boycott Aruba’ protests in Boston and New York.
Anyway, I found something today that I didn’t realize: even van der Straaten said the THREE were “involved.” This comment is found on page 155 of Beth’s book, “Loving Natalee,” on the day that the Kalpoes were released:
“Just a few days ago we heard the conflicting statements from Joran. We heard Deepak and him implicate Paulus in a conspiracy to hide a crime.
Even police chief van der Straten (sic) says, ‘The suspects continue to change their stories every time they’re interrogated. The three boys are guilty of involvement.’”
Not necessarily SOLELY guilty, but involved.
And this is from someone who, early in the “investigation,” made the now-infamous comment that he knew Natalee was dead, because “I’ve seen the evidence and you haven’t.”
So van der Straaten says the three are involved.
Prosecutor Karin Janssen says the three are involved.
Media whore Steve Cohen said (if I remember correctly) that at least two of the three had sex with Natalee.
Gerald Dompig said the three were “guilty as hell.”
Deepak Kalpoe said all three “had sex with Natalee. You’d be surprised how easy it was.”
Now Joran vdScum says that the Kalpoes weren’t involved.
Anybody want to be skeptical on that, and on much else of what he says? I do.
#1 You forgot to mention that this song is a parody of a song that was a hit in the summer of 2006 and was not made to make fun of Natalee but only to make Joran look stupid.
He is still hiding somewhere in the country since the show aired last sunday. He can’t show his face anymore in public.
A comment on page 183 of “Loving Natalee” is also of interest:
“The Dutch interrogators, who have tried as hard as the FBI to help us, come up to the room. They are trying to make heads or tails of this.
‘In Holland this never would have happened,’ one of them tells me. ‘The defense is running the show.’ They were as shocked as we were that the three will be released and said information was presented to the judge that showed ample reason to keep them in custody.”
http://tinyurl.com/2dudqn
Friday, February 8, 2008
XVII. Support the Effort
Special Notice:
The dedicated ocean search for Natalee Holloway has been underway since mid-November, 2007. What began in Louisiana during mobilization now culminating in Aruba, the search has utilized some of the best search equipment and personnel in the world. To date, approximately 900 miles of sonar data has been collected covering a geographic area 80% the size of Aruba. The search has required a painstakingly slow approach which in the end leaves no stone unturned.
Although slow, this approach is extremely effective in marine search and recovery. Since the beginning, the search has been privately funded by Louis Schaefer Jr. of Underwater Expeditions who remarkably and gracefully accepted the financial burden when requested by Texas Equusearch and Natalee’s parents. John Silvetti of Marine Surveys, Greg Landry of Offshore Innovative Solutions, Erik McGuire of Seatronics, along with Agiosat and Wilkens Weather Service came beside Louis to conduct this humanitarian effort. To put this search effort in financial perspective, an equivalent search conducted for industry would involve costs well exceeding several million dollars. This project has been conducted for about 35 cents on the dollar, with costs still exceeding a million dollars.
Although we have searched and ruled out an extensive portion of the original planned search area, a substantial portion of the high-probability area yet remains to be explored. Now, following a publicly confirmed admission that Natalee Holloway was disposed at sea, we are confident that completing the focused search area will bring closure. We therefore formally invite and request anyone who this humanitarian effort has touched to get involved and to help support the remaining search efforts. Donations are being handled by Texas Equusearch, a 501 (c) (3) nonprofit organization. Please come beside those who have already given so much to help ensure a proper funeral in Alabama for Natalee Holloway. Please make all donations marked as: “Holloway search”.
To learn more about Texas Equusearch and to help support the search for Natalee Holloway, check out: http://www.texasequusearch.org/donate.html
Texas EquuSearch Office:
4013 FM 517, Suite B
Dickinson, Texas 77539
P. O. Box 395, Dickinson, Texas 77539
Office: (281) 309-9500
Fax: (281) 534-6719
Toll Free: (877) 270-9500
Email: donate@texasequusearch.org
http://www.nholloway.blogspot.com/
Oh how we could add to that list of who needs to be incarcerated, Nuturer. Not sure if the prisons in Aruba could house them all!
WHY IS THE NETHERLANDS HARBORING THIS SELF-CONFESSED, SOCIOPATHIC FUGITIVE FROM JUSTICE?
Does anyone know what the deal is about Joran’s shoes? I read early on that he disposed of them. I didn’t understand why. Actually I don’t understand how things have arrived at this point. He’s guilty as sin!
As I said in another thread: please stop picking on the Netherlands. We don’t really know what they could have done vs what they have done. We do know that about 1 year into the investigation, even some investigators from the Netherlands said what happened in Aruba was a farce.
We know DeVries and Patrick are from the Netherlands and they have done something.
All this stuff blaming the Netherlands is way off the track. It’s not about the Netherlands; it’s about Natalee.
Variations on a theme….
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8227/fatkidji0.jpg
(klaasend)
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SM:
Observer,
Out of pure curiosity did you find/see anything interesting (non Natalee related) at all so far?
I am not a regular on this blog but as a Canadian I want all Americans to know I support justice for Natalee! A lot of canadians are disgusted with what has transpired over there
Myself and all my extended family and friends also support the ARUBA BOYCOTT petition.
As well I am also going to send the persistence
a donation for their discovery operations!
I fully believe the evil little villain Joran VS
2K and Paulus raped murdered and disposed of her body and that the ARUBAN gov and legal sytem is responsible for one MAJOR COVER UP!!!
I dont mean to put down your govt US(believe me ours is no better) but if Pres.Bush would step up to the plate and put pressure on the Aruba govt to convict these culprits it may be a big help but since he only seems to protect the crooks around him ie Scooter Libby, I cant see that happening.
I also agree with A New Girl in the post below
that the media needs to be more cognizant of what comes out of their mouth!
just today on CNN Reliable Sources Howard Kurtz made a very insensitive comment on his show that
the Natalee Hollway case in the same breath and sentence as the Britney spears saga, was a *SOAP OPERA*
Someone needs to remind him a young American girl was murdered and that her familys plight to
find justice for her and the culprits to be held accountable, has been the reason they have kept this case in the media spotlight and in my opinion its an insult to call their loss and efforts a Soap Opera!
I would think being the accomplished Journalist he is that he would have more responsibility
I sent him off an email to express my disdain and that he needs to apologize for such callous remarks!
Please keep demanding for Jutice for Natalee
Please keep boycotting Aruba!
Keep the pressure on SM
Maybe JUST maybe the Aruba govt will GROW A
CONSCIENCE and some INTEGRITY and hold these murderers Joran K2 and Paulus and legal officials accountable!!!
JOran’s shoes…..well, the soccer player kicked natalee maybe. Ted Bundy was found guilty of killing one of his victims by the shoe print he left on her arm.
But I’m not so sure I believe any shoes are missing.
JOran said he got a new pair of KSwiss in Florida in April 2005. He may have gotten rid of his old ones when he got the new ones and the fact that he no longer had them may have given him a thought to say they were missing to screw the case up.
Joran is a weird sort of liar.
I think Natalee threw up on Jorans tennis shoes prior to her being raped. He knew if they checked his shoes they would run a test on them and find date rape in the vomit.
Either that or he lost one of his shoes while floating Natalee out to his buddy’s boat, so he got rid of other shoe.
Just theories
aruba-
lock him up and hold a party to celebrate justice and the life of natalee. we’ll all come and fill up your hotels, restaurants and casino.
LOCK HIM UP! why are you letting your number one industry suffer because of a lying kid? he admitted that he was responsible for it, what else do you want? LOCK him up.
until i hear differently, we push for absolute boycott. i just talked two friends from coming to aruba. they are now headed to Jamaica.
i hope you truly are one Happy island, cause the new phrase we have here in Chicago is ‘Aruba, over my dead body.’
So, Joran, you want a big, fat compensation check?
Let’s hope you get a big, fat prison sentence instead.
Joran told Greta that they had done this maybe 20 times before and nothing bad happened. Did anyone other than Julia think that it was just meeting, drinking and going somewhere to have consensual sex with a tourist? I hope the other women who woke up without any recollection realize it wasn’t just because they drank too much and have contacted the FBI and Mos or DeVries (if they don’t know if they can trust Mos).
I too, think the shoes were dumped because there may have been an imprint of the shoe on Natalee.
E-Robert..LOL…The fat guy behind Joran could be Papa Sloat or Dennis Jacobs
WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THE NETHERLANDS?
CAN YOU ANSWER W-H-Y THEY ARE HARBORING AND CODDLING THIS SELF-CONFESSED SOCIOPATH?
WHAT IS THE REASON?
Joran and Paulus Van der Sloot are an embarrassment to the Dutch people and an eyesore to the human race.
#14
Thanks, Mishy, for the input. Glad to have all you good Canadians on board.
your welcome Kayjay and ty
I read that blog
http://forensicthoughtprints.com/default.aspx?200827
it was really interesting where he states what his opinion is, of what happened to the shoes at the very bottom of the article
He writes:
But stay with the imagery—he has placed his shoes in a solid enclosed container, in a deep hole, and underwater. How well this fits with his shoes being in the deep, in a solid cage underwater—in the fish-trap cage with Natalee’s body deep in the ocean as many believe. How well this matches Deepak’s idea that if the body is found people will know who dumped it. As we cringe at Joran’s arrogance in his videotaped confession, we can’t help but think how like a poker player, a high-stakes gambler, to throw his shoes in the cage as though he was rolling the dice, daring the authorities to find the evidence. This also explains how Joran kept saying he was lucky, he was very lucky—maybe he knows his luck is about to run out.
…………………….
gives one food for thought
#14 Mishy, I’m with you but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
#18 JusticeforNatalee, I’m with you but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
I think the shoes have blood on them…
The original lie was Natalee hit her head as she got out of the car when they were dropping her off at the Holiday Inn. Sadly I think the attack was extreamly violent maybe more than we wish to discuss here and I think the original lie of her hitting her head was a cover for an injury that will be seen when they find her body. I really do believe they will find her eventually.
Joran was high when during the DeVries tapes.
Hey Joran, from what we know you are either always drunk or high, so tell us, why should this make a difference? Hey if I remember right…it takes you at least 20 beers to buzz, so that would be how many blunts before you are too high to be able to tell the truth?
We all need to prepare ourselves for the next shocker — Aruba will not do anything, there’ not enough evidence to arrest. Trust me, it’s happened over and over again. We need to resign ourselves to the fact that they aren’t willing to take this kid down. He’s the teflon rapist-murderer.
_____________________
SM: Even if Joran isn’t arrested for pre-trial detention it can still go to trial (klaasend)
11: I understand where you are coming from now understand where we are coming from.
Van der Sloots Dutch National
Van Der Straaten Dutch National
Van Cromvoirt Dutch National
Kalpoe Brothers NE Dutch Gianana
Judges Dutch Nationals
Gottenbos Dutch National
SMit Dutch National
Voeking? (spelling) Dutch National
Appointed Judges Dutch National
Governor of Aruba Dutch National
appointed by the Queen
I rest my case
Just clipping roses…
In Dutch:
http://www.ad.nl/holloway/article2040821.ece
#2 That should be kill somebody else,
Can someone translate this please??
‘We proberen zo gewoon mogelijk te leven’
Door PETER DE KNEGT
ORANJESTAD – De ouders van Joran van der Sloot willen weer de draad oppakken. Dit zegt de moeder, Anita van der Sloot, tegen het AD. ,,We proberen het leven zo goed en zo kwaad als het gaat zo gewoon mogelijk op te pakken. We hebben nog meer kinderen, weet u.’’
Joran van der Sloot (rechts) met zijn moeder Anita en vader Paul.
Paul en Anita van der Sloot, de ouders van Joran.
vorige afbeelding 2 / 2 volgende Anita van der Sloot oogt aangeslagen. Bij het snoeien in de tuin haalt ze uit naar de media die de afgelopen week ruimschoots aandacht besteedden aan de uitzending van Peter R. de Vries.
Daarin vertelde hun zoon onder het oog van verborgen camera’s wat er bijna drie jaar geleden met het verdwenen Amerikaanse meisje Natalee Holloway op het strand van Aruba zou zijn gebeurd.
,,De media verdraaien de feiten en maar één kant van het verhaal wordt steeds verteld. Het is beter niet te veel te zeggen. Alles wordt toch tegen onze intenties in uitgelegd,’’ aldus de moeder van Joran.
Anita van der Sloot bestempelt de uitzending van De Vries waarin haar zoon vertelde dat zijn vader illegaal een mobiele telefoon de cel had in gesmokkeld, als ‘vreselijk’. Ze heeft spijt dat zij, haar man en Joran in de talkshow van Pauw en Witteman hebben plaatsgenomen. ,,Dat was hartstikke stom. Dat hadden we niet moeten doen.’’
Na de uitzending gooide Joran een glas rode wijn in het gezicht van Peter R. de Vries. Beelden hiervan kwamen al gauw naar buiten.
‘Bon bende’
Het is een huisje dat iedereen op het Arubaanse eiland wel wil hebben. Het vrolijke geel-blauw-rood van de muren van Montanja 19 staat onder de brandend hete tropische zon geen verdriet toe, zo lijkt het.
In de gezellig-rommelige wijk woont de familie Van der Sloot al zo’n 20 jaar. Temidden van ‘locals’, andere Nederlanders en Amerikanen. Geen patserige enclave vol expats. Nee, de familie staat juist bekend als sociaal, betrokken. Ze leerden de inheemse taal: Papiamento, doet mee aan van alles en nog wat. Jorans broertje was zelfs nog te bewonderen bij een uitbundige carnavalsoptocht. ,,Het leven gaat door.’’
De ‘bekentenis’ van Joran van der Sloot bij misdaadverslaggever Peter R. de Vries over de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway en het daaropvolgende verhoor door de politie afgelopen vrijdag lijkt weinig invloed te hebben gehad op de reputatie van de familie.
De ouders van Joran zijn ‘bon bende’ (goede mensen) zegt L. da Silva voor een door Chinezen gerunde supermarkt. De mannen om hem heen lurken aan de lokale ‘Balashi’ en knikken instemmend.
,,Hier op Aruba kennen de mensen het verhaal natuurlijk al veel langer en beter dan in Nederland.’’ Een vriendelijke Anita van der Sloot is ook nog op deze zondagmiddag overtuigd dat de mensen hen in ieder geval niets kwalijk nemen.
,,In Nederland is het verhaal pas veel later een echte rol gaan spelen en dat geeft een vertekend beeld.’’ Misschien wil ze het allemaal nog weleens uitleggen. ,,Maar vooralsnog zeggen we even niets omdat alles door de media eenzijdig wordt verteld.’’
zie ook:
‘Op Aruba ligt sleutel Joran-drama’
Media,
Please be careful about talking about how
her “body” was taken out to sea and dumped.
Joran himself said she may have been in a coma.
If he goes to trial and they can prove she very well might have been alive when he took her to sea then he is guilty of murder by dumping her in the sea. Disposing of a body
would be a much lighter sentence. I personally beleive he murdered her then took her out in a boat but if they cannot prove this then causing her death by drowning may be the way they approach it.
Joran, you were high on hubris, that’s all.
#11 Agree. Let’s stop picking on the Netherlands.
How about we focus on the good work of Peter De Vries and company? DUTCH!
The nationality of the people involved may have been Dutch, but whatever happened, happened ON Aruba and the cover-up was OF Aruba.
Focusing on Aruba makes the most sense, I think.
That’s where the darkness lies … and there has been no change. We want to prevent future cases.
Boycott Aruba as though your life were on the line.
And I ask our Dutch friends once again … now that even your own Parliament seems to have some moral qualms towards Aruba and its practices, will any of you take the lead in promoting the Boycott Aruba movement on your side of the pond?
We hear that the Dutch people have awakened, or been awakened, to the facts of the case.
Our motto has long been: no justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba. Now, will you spread the same slogan over there? Plaster it on the dikes and windmills? (Facetious, there, but still ….)
Read where Peter de Vries brings out a can of Whoop Ass on the van der Scum Buckets.
http://www.peterrdevries.com/news-parents-joran.htm
Awesome article!
Joran is supposedly suicidal. but I don’t believe that.
He would never kill himself he loves himeself too much. Its all about him.
It’s just another way he ‘plays to be the victim’- pretendling to be suicidal.
Observer,
Out of pure curiosity did you find/see anything interesting (non Natalee related) at all so far?
Posted by Steven on February 10th, 2008 6:18 pm
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I don’t understand your question at all. I am here for one reason and that is to help Natalee and her Family. What else should I be looking for that would be interesting?
Joran said he took his shoes off when they walked on the beach and never went back to get them….yea right…well if his shoes were off why would he put them back on to go out in the water to the boat….the shoes had blood on them….if they were only wet in the Aruban sun they would have dried in no time…..blood would be the only reason to throw them away…or he used the shoestrings for something…
The fisherman also said a rope was missing along with a knife and the crab cage. They may have put Natalee in the cage and drug her behind or along side of the boat, then cut or untied the rope and let her go…however they went about it we know it wasn’t good…
Why did the police shovel sand into the trunk of the police cruiser by the lighthouse, why were the rocks painted by the lighthouse…..more cover-up!
Why were Deepak and Joran all hot, sweaty and dirty when Beth and the police got to the Sloot house.
Still more unanswered questions that need to be investigated.
We need Deepak’s answer to, she hit her head.
I wonder if the case is extradited to the US if then they would allow Patrick to enter the country as a witness. Joe Taco of course would not want that to happen. I don’t know how ihe continues to protect Joran…the numerous countries number one hate list person..
Here the translation of the above mentioned AD article: Mother Joran: trying to live on.
http://www.ad.nl/holloway/article2040821.ece
(Google transl. & me)
Mother Joran: Trying to live on.”
By PETER DE KNEGT
ORANJESTAD – The parents of Joran van der Sloot want to pick up the thread (of life) again. This mother, Anita van der Sloot, says to the AD. ,, We try to pick up life as best we can. We have more children, you know,”
Anita van der Sloot looks hurt. When pruning in the garden she criticizes the media that last week paid a lot of attention to the broadcast of Peter R. De Vries.
There their son under the eye of hidden cameras told what would have happened almost three years ago to the missing American girl Natalee Holloway on the beach of Aruba.
,, The media distort the facts and only one side of the story is told again and again. It is better not to say too much. Everything is still explained against our intentions,”says the mother of Joran.
Anita van der Sloot labels the broadcast of De Vries in which her son stated that his father illegally smuggled a mobile phone in the cell, as “terrible”. She is sorry that she, her husband and Joran went to the talk-show of Pauw and Witteman. ,, That was very stupid. We shouldn’t have done that.”
After the broadcast Joran threw a glass of red wine in the face of Peter R. De Vries. Pictures of this were soon coming out.
‘Bon bende’
It is a house that anyone on the island Aruban wants to have. The cheerful yellow-blue-red of the walls of Montanja 19 under the burning hot tropical Sun allows no sadness, it seems.
In the cosy, messy quarter the family Van der Sloot already live some 20 years. Among locals, other Dutch and Americans. No snobbish enclave full of expats. No, the family is well known as social.., involved. They learned the native languages: Papiamento, participate in all kinds of things. Jorans brother was even more to admire in an exuberant carnival. ,, Life goes on.”
The ‘confession’ of Joran van der Sloot at crime reporter Peter R. De Vries about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent questioning by police last Friday appears to have had little impact on the reputation of the family.
The parents of Joran are ‘bon bende’(good gang / good people) says L. Da Silva in front of a Chinese-run supermarket. The men around him noisily suck on their local ‘Balashi’ and nodd in agreement.
,, Here on Aruba the people of course know the story a lot longer and better than in the Netherlands.”A friendly Anita van der Sloot is also on this Sunday convinced that the people in any case not blame them.
,, In the Netherlands the story has only much later become to play a real role and that gives a distorted picture.”Maybe sometimes she wants to explain it all. ,, But for the time being we want to say nothing because everything by the media will be told one-sided.”
See also:
‘On Aruba is the key to the Joran-drama’
Suicide is the only way that urine can keep his father from going to jail. Taco is seriously damaging his reputation as a slimeball by working with these idiots. It would be great if someone could sell “Travel Aruba?? …Over My Dead Body!!” t-shirts over the web and send proceeds to the search fund. I’ll take two! I have a relative in a very large travel agency who tells me they are declining to promote Aruba and Netherlands because of corruption. Canada is on board BIG TIME!!
Is it true that urine’s manhood is only 4 inches at most? That would explain a lot.
Drugs and alcohol do not put ideas in your head. They can make you say or carry out things you wouldn’t normally do, but do not give you the idea!
Richard, Holland is not going to boycott Aruba..would be rather silly…cose they will come here begging for money and it would only hurt the Arubans who try to live a decent life.
Besides..those windmills are in a small part of our country (just follow the tourists)
#21: Reason is that he is a Dutch National.
I don’t have a problem with the Netherlands, they cannot help much as to the joke of an investigation that went on in Aruba and neither can our government here in the USA. Aruba is very corrupt, the cover-up was poorly handled at first because it was so evident. They absolutely treated Beth like she was the criminal and probably laughed at everyone of us. Any and all evidence was destroyed by Dennis Jacobs and van der stratten.. But, someone will talk, too many people were in on it and they cannot kill them all. They are on the run now, the house of cards will fall. If someone is smart enough he or she could tell all, make some money and get protection from the others. It will happen. If I were the Kalpoes,I would sing like Frank Sinatra…often and long and good.
I see, Dolf … money is the real issue, not decency or safety. Well, who knows but what Hans Brinker might decide to do on the dikes one of these days?
(I would think, though, with the growing interest in alternative energies, that windmills would be more popular than ever.)
Mea culpa, Dolf … Hans Brinker was the kid with the skates, as I recall.
I don’t remember what was the name of the kid who (supposedly) stood by the dike all night with his finger in it to prevent it from leaking and flooding the town.
Richard, the real issue everywhere is money, sad at times but reality.
Why do you think Darfur is still such a big mess…they have nothing there of economical intrests.
checked out Hans Brinker and found something interesting:
He is a character in a American childbook (Hans Brinker or the silver skates)by US author Mary Mapes Dodge.
Will have to go to the library to fetch it
and yes, windmills for energy are comming here, thought you were talking about the old ones
comming should be common
Oh I like Dumpert as well:
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/41621/2d3c00ec/peter_r._pwned_dwdd.html
Especially the commentary that goes with the clip
was quiet funny
Peter R de Vries sucks (not because of his Holloway reportage)
MEDIA HEISA
This whole Natalee “coverages” is a media heisa of unproportional history. The “revealing tapes” of mr Peter de Vries turned out to be a total fiasco since no guilt was pleaded by Joran. Even if he did it will be very easy to say as he is doing now “I was high”. He might as well say I am fooling you all again, why would you belive me? I always lie don’t I??? So we think to know when he lies and when not. Let me refresh your mind a little bit about statements as “this could not happen in the States or Holland”. In the O.J. Case there was TWO bodies, blood so much a bloodbank could have used for a year, foor imprints, bloody socks, gloves, taxi driver witness, strange behaviour (driving around in a bronco for hours followed by cops), threatening phone calls conversations, and you know what………..NOT GUILTY. And if we have to believe the statistics every single day people are missing in the USA and Holland. So let the manhunt starts!!!!!!!!!!!
well I guess that will teach me to try to reply here….the sum of 10 and 8 is not 18 apparently….
typing is not one of my strong suits and typing a long diatribe and then submitting it only to have it killed because of a ‘sum’ question really…err….well…pisses me off….
Thanks Greg
[...] trying so hard to smear Patrick van der Eem? What is their agenda? Why was the excuse that Joran Van der Sloot was high on secret videos a perfectly good explanation, but some how going after Patrick is priority [...]
WHAT WAS FOUND IN THE TRUNK OF JORN’S CAR OR WHOEVER’S CAR. THEY FIRST THOUGHT IT WAS BLOOD BUT LATER RULED THIS OUT WHAT WAS THE FINAL RESULT AFTER TESTING TO DETERMINE WHAT IT WAS? I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW!
i sal him in aruba
[...] there was a confession by Joran Van der Sloot in the death of Natalee Holloway, he would recant, make excuses or say he lied. Sound [...]