RSSBREAKING NEWS! NEW EVIDENCE LEADS TO INTENSIFIED SEARCH IN ARUBA FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY
Fox News is reporting that Aruban prosecutors are looking in to NEW EVIDENCE that may show how Natalee Holloway was killed, and how her body disappeared:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-FdA_70dc0 425 355]
Greta Van Susteren posted the statement from the Prosecutor’s office on her blog:
The Office of the Public Prosecutor of Aruba has intensified its investigation of the case of Natalee Holloway due to recently received information. This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared.
The Public Prosecutor has lately received this information from the Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries. This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee’s disappearance.
In cooperation with the Aruban Police Corps, the Office is currently investigating the reliability and value of this new information. It will be evaluated in relation to the results of the preceding profound research activities. The Aruban Police Corps has continued the investigation of the case despite the formal discontinuation of the prosecution of the suspects of the day, in December 2007. Commissioned investigators are currently charged with further inquiries.
In the interest of the ongoing investigation no further information will be circulated.
Scared Monkeys will supply continuing updates are they are made available.
UPDATE I: Reporter Provides ‘New Evidence’ in Holloway Case Aruban Authorities Will Investigate a Dutch Reporter’s Information About Natalee Holloway
Information from reporter Peter R. de Vries may help resolve what happened to the American teenager, who vanished during a May 2005 school vacation to the Dutch Caribbean island, the prosecutor’s office said in a statement. The statement did not say specifically what the new evidence was. “This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared,” the prosecutor’s office said. Prosecutors dismissed their case against Van der Sloot and two other suspects last month, saying they lacked evidence to charge them or even prove a crime was committed. Authorities have said the case could be reopened if new evidence surfaces.
Aruba Probing New Holloway Case Evidence
Aruban prosecutors said Thursday that authorities are investigating new evidence in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway provided by a Dutch crime reporter.
Information from reporter Peter R. de Vries may help resolve what happened to the American teenager, who vanished during a May 2005 school vacation to the Dutch Caribbean island, the prosecutor’s office said in a statement.
The statement did not say specifically what the new evidence was.
“This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared,” the prosecutor’s office said.
De Teleggraaf: Binnenland: ‘Peter R. heeft zaak-Holloway opgelost’
UPDATE II: New Evidence from Peter R. de Vries – Man on a Mission
Beth Holloway is in the Netherlands to be on Peter de Vries TV show when he provides the information that he has come up with. I am sure she has already been provided with his finding when she arrived in Holland. According to a comment posted, SBS6 News, Beth Twitty has been told information.
Just in SBS6 news: Beth when hearing (and seeing the hidden camera actions?) reacted very emotional and is confident the case is solved now.
When Peter told of Beth’s reaction he had tears in his eyes and almost cried! (Hat Tip: EURobert)
(Click on pic to enlarge)
Translation: Natalee Holloway Case … SOLVED!!!
UPDATE III: Joran Van der Sloot … Maybe You Want to Rethink Throwing Wine in the Face of a Determined Crime Investigator
UPDATE IV: VIDEO, New Evidence Could Help Natalee Holloway Case.
It makes us all wonder why the Aruban prosecutor ever initially closed the Natalee Holloway case. It’s not like he had to. Now with new evidence coming to light, the case is reopened.
Prosecutors in Aruba now say …
“they have new evidence that could lead them to solve the mystery as to the mode of the death of Natalee Holloway and the how she was actually moved away, how her body was transported away from the scene.”
Dutch TV detective Peter R. De Vries has solved the Natalee Holloway case. Natalee’s family can finally have closure.In what’s breaking news, Dutch TV inspector (detective) Peter R. De Vries says that he has solved the case of Natalee Holloway. Peter R. de Vries is very well known in the Netherlands, and has closed more cases; he’s connected with both criminals and law enforcement officials, all of whom (sometimes) help him out.Just saw the press conference. Holloway’s mother is indeed with De Vries and he told her what happened to her daughter his afternoon. He said that she was highly emotional but also relieved. Closure.When he talked about her he became emotional himself explaining that “it’s not nothing to bring news like this to a mother.”Aruban and Dutch investigators have said that he has, indeed, provided them with crucial information. We’ll have to wait until Sunday to see what happened and who’s responsible, but most people – including myself – believe that Joran van der Sloot is, indeed, the killer. We’ll see Sunday though.
Posted January 31, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Crime, Deepak Kalpoe, Joran Van der Sloot, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway | 161 comments |
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I guess Joran should have not thrown that wine in Peter’s face.
I am curious if this is information, newly given to Peter or information Peter had and decided to let go?
http://www.ad.nl/binnenland/article2015123.ece
De Vries lost on murder Holloway
ORANJESTAD – Peter R. Misdaadverslaggever De Vries says that the murder of Natalee Holloway has been resolved. De Vries is the weekend returned from Aruba, where he has been justice revealing about his findings.
Justice in Aruba, the new clues about the disappearance of the American teenager Natalee Holloway in May 2005. The Public Prosecutor’s Office (OM) on Aruba did know today include information from crime reporter Peter R. De Vries to have received.
,, This information can significantly contribute to solving the mystery surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway”says Justice. The case Holloway was closed in December, but the OM has since continued to examine relevant information.
The solution of the case is due to a hidden camera action, which by De Vries months.
The mother of Natalee Holloway, Beth Twitty is at the invitation of De Vries of the Netherlands. It is by him today informed of the breakthrough.
SBS 6 Sunday evening broadcasts from 21.30 hours ingelaste a special, extra-long broadcast of nearly two hours, in which the outcome of the verdwijningsmysterie detailed from the paintings will be done.
Peter R de Vries claims to have the **solution** of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Check his website on http://www.peterrdevries.nl
February 3rd a special episode of Peter on Dutch media. He says he has the most spectacular secret cam movies ever seen in this 30 years of his career (!). This whole operation took several months. I guess Peter already knew a lot more three weeks ago during the wine-throwing incident. He does not want to reveal more details, you just need to see his show this Sunday. To be continued ………
PETER IS A BAAS THIS SHOWS THE DUTCH ARE WAY BETTER THEN THE AMERICANS AGAIN LIKE WE WOULD KICK UR ASS WITH FOOTBALL
http://www.peterrdevries.com/
Yup, he’s done it again. Count on that, case solved. And he makes us wait until sunday, how typical
Beth Twitty has arrived in The Netherlands on Peter’s invitation. Peter likes to stir sensation but he is a good investigator and has often managed to solve cold cases that the police couldn’t.
Rik, we would kick US ass in Soccer, they would kick our ass in Football.
All I can say is WOW!!!
See also http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3177773/__Peter_R__zaak-Holloway_opgelost___.html?p=2,1
Peter claims to have the solution by using hidden cameras. This Sunday a special two hours show (unplanned) will reveal many details. Beth Holloway is in The Netherlands right know and she will be a guest in Peters program. Lets pray …
Oh wouldn’t it be justice if the wine throwing incident did indeed prompt Mr Devriese SP to open up full tilt at just how this case was acted out .
and my question is would Joran be man enough to commit suicide if he even realized that HIS own impulsive actions did him in at last because I do not really think that he would make it in prison for even a short time such as 10 years . He would never be able to deal with himself for that period of time .
Now the only thing better would be for His Father Mother and the two kalpos to go to prison also , Now wouldn’t that be a cell block to watch over LOL .
Jerruy from Ohio
But the boycott of Aruba & the Netherlands is hopefully still on, even if the case is solved???
Would be an nice & quiet vacation on aruba without the drunk US teens swarming around Aruba.
Don’t hold your breath! I bet they are going to use the info from the phyics.
Way to go Peter! Hope it’s true!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well let’s see how this plays out. Three key words here to watch
….Prosecution……mode….method….
What I’d like to know is how long this information has been available. Dramatic exposures on TV are all very well, but swift justice is a lot better. I just hope this isn’t a lot of hype and BS. Poor Beth has been through quite enough.
All the same I am trying to keep an open mind and will keep hoping……………..
….and yes, if the Dutch break the case, I will be the first to give them credit for solving the case.
http://www.vkmag.com/galleries/gallery_joran_is_de_dader/
That’s a piece of text a website found on an open directory of PRdV’s site.
See if I can translate another interesting article I saw!
Hmmmm….excitement level: Elevated!
Chance that whatever it is it will be covered up soon: Probable!
Hope Peter kept proof of his proof.
#11- NOT TO WORRY…LIERUBA WILL STILL BE BOYCOTTED…MORE THAN EVER…PPL WILL KNOW WHAT YOU PIGS HAVE BEEN DOING TO AMERICAN TOURISTS…
This is GREAT NEWS….
From this site: a google translation. Don’t know where they’ve got it from. To excited to read it awhole. I’ll make a complete translation of this article.
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/1184031.html#more
DAYDREAMING ABOUT AN
‘IMPOSSIBLE’ SOLUTION….
A crime reporter whose fault have previously high murder and verdwijningszaken been resolved, dagdroomt still agree on things in his career he would like to solve. The really hard is that it usually illusions. The disappearance of Natalee Holloway was such a thing.
Natalee Holloway
After Justice had closed the case almost no one believed that this mystery would ever be clarified. But on the basis of 30 years of journalistic experience, my misdaadkennis and intuition I knew that this tragedy had kúnnen resolved. But that is of course easier thought than done. That confidence in a solution was only confirmed when I along with editor / director Kees van der Spek late 2006 for the first time to Aruba was to investigate the matter and we discovered many inconsistencies. We made a revealing, extra long episode on the fate of Natalee and from that moment we were both in the grip of The Mystery…
We therefore not hesitated when a few months ago, in the autumn of 2007, a new chance for us aandiende intensively engaged with the disappearance and holding. How exactly is that, I can not reveal here today. That comes later. Anyway, together, and I thought Kees an ingenious, daring plan that the truth could bring. In order to be able to carry out we had to be patient and kousenvoeten maneuvering. There was no leaking of our operation. Nobody was suspicion and even our editors had therefore we necessarily have to ask the ‘nice-to-know or need-to-know’criterium handling.
There followed very exciting weeks, in which case to a climax toeging where we advance not dared hope. Kees and I belden day and night with each other, stippelden new tactics and analyzed the claims. Sometimes we could barely hide our excitement. And the number of times we at night awake with schrokken raids, doubts or is not available. The fear that the operation would fail or at the last minute would fail, chased us every minute. Over the years I have been hot fire in big things, but the kriebels, tension and stress I learned in this operation – in which so much could go wrong – have felt were new.
But it is worth the effort. The moment Kees van der Spek and I – standing in a benauwd spothokje to editors – who viewed the images were clear, I will never forget. The words that we spoke when I can not ongekuisd optikken, but you will understand if you have seen the pictures. The images of the most exciting hidden camera action that I have ever done.
Sometimes lead to daydream still hard journalistic productions. And the bitter truth…
Peter R. De Vries
Kloot
Looks like you can have the whole island to yourself. Check the cams. Have at it.
FOX just reported that Peter has a theory of how she died and why her body was never found….maybe he interviewed (by hidden camera ???) someone who works at the crematorium…just guessing here…I sure hope she can be found….how much longer will the sea search continue? I was hoping the crew of the Persistence had found her.
@Miss-Underestimated on January 31st, 2008 1:08 pm
Buy when cheap, sell when expensive.
BTW
For everybody, don’t get youre hopes up yet, Yoran was an minor when this happened, thus meaning an sentence longer than a year is never gonna happen.
This is crap! If this were true he would NOT hesitate to release the information….pure PR stunt! Leave this poor mother alone!
Soccer is for *********, American Football is for warriors!
“Boulevard” a Dutch live TV show starting at 18.30 just announced that Peter will be their guest, to tell it all.
Soccer is for *********, American Football is for warriors!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Then please explain why they have so much protective clothes????
Soccer is for idiot’s
American Football is for idiot’s who look stupid in their clothes.
Aussie football & rugby is for real men.
Ben jij (are you) de Kloothommel van (from) GS?
#22 Could be you are right..but he’s already been sentenced in the court of Public Opinion and there is no time limit on that….
Also let’s hope they nail his perverted old man..I don’t thin he was a minor when the crime was committed!
Still its too soon to say what this is all about.. let’s hope for the best..once again…..
Go Peter…wine burns when thrown in your eyes..Joran you must of really pissed him off..so he tried even harder to find out what happened…and I hope he did!!!
Kloot
I see you have softened on the innocence of Joran, so he can get a year, thus meaning Peter may be on to something and Joran is responsible?
You may be right with Joran being a minor and getting only a year, but his daddy was not a minor.
BTW I visited Peter’s site and I noticed the “SOLVED” was stamped across Joran’s nasty looking cranium. I loved that.
Buy cheap? I buy quality….Aruba has no quality and won’t until this case is taken care of and Natalee is given back to her family.
@Erik, the one and only, lekker klooten en keeten
oja, update van televaag
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3178487/__Joran_van_der_Sloot_bekent___.html?p=2,1
“Joran van der Sloot known ‘
AMSTERDAM – Joran van der Sloot would be in a secret recording the murder of Natalee Holloway have known.
Weblog VKmag says through a back door of the site by Peter R. De Vries found to have information which would prove that.
Thursday announced Peter R. De Vries already that the solution in the case of Holloway.
His website has been updated halsoverkop when the PPS on Aruba brought out a press release.
De Vries claims that this is his most revealing discovery ever.
news story being splashed on every local and cable TV in the NYC area.
ARUBA is now toast. Corrupt officials should be expelled from office and prosecuted for ruining the lives of local Aruban citizens. There will be riots.
Peter has his own show on Sunday evening, no way he going to tell the solution elsewhere. He is very sure, Beth will attend the show…
http://www.jaggle.nl/images/uploads/screenshotpeterrdevries.jpg
Screenshot over the confession by yoran
This is not about death or alive this is about dutch supremecy peter is really a hero he did this before this shows that 1 man from holland makes ur federal investigations a disgrace.
Peter for president of the u.s.a
#23 Scott: American football is for gays who do not want to hurt themselves. Rugby is for real men.
DAYDREAMING ABOUT AN ‘IMPOSSIBLE’ SOLUTION….
A crime reporter by who’s effort previously high murder and disappearancecases have been solved, sometimes as well still daydreams on things he in his career would like to see solved. The hard reality is that it usually are illusions. The disappearance of Natalee Holloway was such a thing.
Natalee Holloway
After Justice had closed the case almost no one believed that this mystery would ever be clarified. But on the basis of 30 years of journalistic experience, my crimeknowledge and intuition I knew that this tragedy could be resolved. But that is of course easier thought than done. That confidence in a solution was only confirmed when I along with editor / director Kees van der Spek late 2006 for the first time went to Aruba to investigate the matter and we discovered many inconsistencies. We made a revealing, extra long episode on the fate of Natalee and from that moment we were both in the grip of The Mystery…
We therefore not hesitated when a few months ago, in the autumn of 2007, a new chance for us presented itself to intensively get engaged with the disappearance. How exactly that is, I can not reveal here today. That comes later. Anyway, we together, Kees and I thought out an ingenious, daring plan that could bring the truth to the light. In order to be able to carry it out well we had to be patient and manouvre ‘on our socks’ (very silently/secretively). Nothing of our operation might leak out. Nobody may get any suspicion and even at our editing-office we had therefore necessarily use the ‘nice-to-know or need-to-know’ criterium (= keep silent?).
Very exciting weeks followed, in which the case climbed to a climax where we in advance could have not dare to hope for. Kees and I called eachother day and night, we drawed out new tactics and analyzed the progressions. Sometimes we could barely hide our excitement. And the number of times we at night awoke with new ideas, or things we would do is uncountable. The fear that the operation would fail or at the last minute would crash, chased us every minute. Over the years I have been in front of hot fires in big cases, but the itches, tension and stress I felt in this operation – in which so much could go wrong – were new.
But it was worth the effort. The moment Kees van der Spek and I – standing in a choky watch-shack, at the editors-room – viewed the images that cleared it all, I will never forget. The words that we spoke then I can not repeat here whitout chasten them, but you will understand if you have seen the pictures. The images of the most exciting hidden camera action that I have ever done.
Sometimes daydreams still lead to hard journalistic productions. And the bitter truth…
Peter R. De Vries
Peter just told that he had spent 2 month on Aruba, and this sunday on his own crimeshow he will reveal the whole story, Nathalee’s mother is in Holland at the moment, and she will be there too on subday, we just saw Peter welcome her at Schiphol airport.
Poor Beth another trip for her…but I guess she feels it’s necessary…I don’t think Peter is about nonsense…hoping this all comes to an end…
A few minutes ago there was a live show on SBS6 with a short interview with Peter. He welcomed Beth earlier this day at Amsterdam Airport and Beth told him she came alone because a friend (?) was left at the origin airport because he/she had some problems with a passport. This afternoon Peter told Beth all the details. Peter spoke about the disappearance of Natalee, nothing about “murder”.
Good to hear. Hopefully this leads to justice being served
and how PATHETIC does the ARUBAN Polis look to the world, if a TV crime reporter from another country is able to uncover evidence?
and how PATHETIC does those 2 phoney “mediums” look along with that “top official” – Croes?
and how pathetic does Breisen look now?
The list is endless…..my God, is there no one in Aruba with a single brain cell?
Americans will properly pay these miscreants back for how they treated the Twitty-Holloway family. They will regret it for the remainder of their lives.
@Vicki on January 31st, 2008 1:07 pm
Great, whe’ll keep you to youre word.
More BS, false leads, and hope?!?!? Peter can theorize all he wants, but it still does not “make it so” nor does it solve the case! We are all sick and tired of all the hype with no substance
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
Oh how Joran will regret that glass of wine, on the other maybe he knew what was going to happen.
@Susan: Boycot Aruba, boycot the Netherlands, why not boycot Europe, or still better boycot the World!!!
Maximum sentence for juvinile murderers is 2 years.
1/3 off for good behaviour and joran walks the streets again in max 1.5 years.
So don’t get youre hopes up.
@erik, niet doen, straks kunnen we lekker goedkoop naar aruba omdat de amerikanen weg blijven
Susan keep up the good work boycotting us.
Just in SBS6 news: Beth when hearing (and seeing the hidden camera actions?) reacted very emotional and is convident the case is solved now.
When Peter told of Beths reaction he had tears in his eyes and almost cried!
RIK : MY GUESS IS THAT YOU WOULD SUCK AT FOOTBALL & SOCCER. I DOUBT YOU COULD EVEN GET CLOSE ENOUGH FOR A CHANCE AT A FIELD GOAL( IF YOUR BOYS LASTED THROUGH THE FIRST SET OF DOWNS).
Susan, Calm down lets wait and see Peter’s findings. If it is BS then you can continue bashing Aruba. Or wait even if Peter solved the case you will keep boycotting Aruba!
Nevertheless Aruba is pretty full of tourists at the moment, guess what! From USA.
Really you have to boycott Aruba harder! LOL
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7xkq8PjB2nU
#43 BOYCOTT SUSAN
Remember when Peter said that he has the answers to ALL questions about the disappearance of Natalee? A few moments ago there was an interview with Peter and he was very emotional when they asked him about the reaction of Beth.
The Holloway case has been resolved by a Dutch crime reporter, Peter R. De Vries. It is certain now! Peter R. De vries just said on Dutch tv that he discovered how Holloway has vanished, what occurred exactly during that night and who did it. On Sunday an extra 2-hour broadcast will reveal everything. Beth Twitty is already in Holland and learned today what happened to her daughter.
The trolls are out in full force so you know this news is huge!
Amen Susan…I’m worried that it is just another false lead and /or false hope too. A theory isn’t going to bring Natalee home or bring her and her family justice. The evidence has to be solid and we already know the evidence has been destroyed by J2K, Paulus and his buddies. We have had too many “new leads” and “new evidence” that have led us no where.
Not sure about why they are waiting, but we in the USA certainly have a much, different set of laws.
I’d like to ask a question to those familiar with Aruban/Dutch law. Can Beth & family sue the van der Sluts for damages re: Natalee’s death? It iss possible in the USA even if a murder conviction is not obtained…but what about for a US citizen suing a Dutch citizen because 1.5 years is crap!
Remember the wonderful OJ Simpson? He had a sly lawyer who got him off for his murder, but he still lost in court re: liability for his wife’s death.
Someone please tell!!
Joran has confessed!
The reason they wear pads, etc…is because of the viciousness of the game…..You never see near the hits in rugby then you do in American Football. Rugby is more queer because it’s a bunch of men rolling on the ground with each other with booty short shorts, grabbing and clawing at each other, now tell me which sport is actually gay?
UNTIL I SEE SCAREDMONKEYS.COM POST A PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE OF PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IN HANDCUFFS BEING TAKEN TO THE POKIE, I WILL NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING.
Though De Vries seems like the real deal….Mos didn’t — as he never made any attempt to reverse the “conflict of interest” letter from Karin Janssen releasing Paulus as a suspect, he never went after Paulus’ timeline, He never questioned Judges and Prosecutors handling of Paulus throughout this case.
Paulus Van Der Sloot needs to show up on the front page of scaredmonkeys.com for me to believe that Aruba and Mos are actually going to do something about this case.
I believe the “dismissal” of the case in December was a trial balloon to see if the media hysteria would finally calm down. It hasn’t, and Aruba’s black eye has turned into two black eyes. Now, someone needs to fry. Will they scapegoat J2K and leave Paulus out? Or will they take the appropriate actions??
MD
We don’t watch TV so I can only keep up with what is going on by your reporting here. Thanks for the constant updates. Is the father going to the Netherlands as well? Whomever LOL about American’s boycotting Aruba is really crass. Someone was murdered on your soil. Why in the world would the reporter wait for four days? If it’s just to hype his show, I wonder about the validity (and admissibility) of his hidden camera work.
@brenda on January 31st, 2008 2:39 pm
Yes and no, no they can not sue for damage, but the judge can order damage payments from perp to victem, but this almost never done in murder case’s (because the victem is dead) and under dutch/aruban law family is not regared als victem if they are not directly invalved in the crime.
No they can’t sue him like OJ was sued, to put it plain and simple, Joran was an minor when this happened, therefore he will be tried under juvinile law, there are exceptions that would make it possible to trial him under adult law, but those are very rare and is almost never done.
They can also sentence him to be put in an mental hospital but also with an max of 6 years.
.57 what’s the source?
Oh thank you Klooth! I’ll take 1.5 years in jail and 6 years in a mental hospital. How wonderful that would be (if both can be applied).
Seeing this is such an international sensation, and the fact Joran was so close to legal age, let us all hope and pray they DO charge him as an adult.
In America there are cases where kids much younger than Joran are charged as an adult. Sadly, many kids are already so street smart that they may as well be adults. Joran is one of those in my humble opinion.
Another question (I’m full of them :>) Would a secretly taped meeting by a person not directly in law enforcement be able to be used in Aruban/Dutch Law? In this country, that would be veeeeery iffy.
@Scott on January 31st, 2008 2:41 pm
Rugby is way more agressive and dangerous than american football, or you really think they all have an bag of fake blood under theire shirts
go tell that to these guys
HERE COMES THE BOOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc0Ut5y-GRc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_bRQHE_JcQ
“When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ballpoint pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat the problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion to develop a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to 300°C.
The Russians used a pencil.”
#50: as I have said earlier there are stupid americans that are ignorant and will still go to aruba. probably for the drugs you guys sell on the street so easliy.
if this turns out to be true, you can say goodbye to tourism not just from America. although i doubt aruba is full of Americans as you say.
and for rik: i have not seen any of your tough dutch boys suited up for the NFL( except for a couple of girly kickers who can’t handle the pressure. )
lyggofo: Says who? How do you know that fat POS, spawn of fat ugly Anita confessed to anything?
Anita, run to Jenny Craig. Run, don’t walk!
Saw this link to the promo of PRdeVries’ show on the forum; thought I’ld post it here as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a25WGPTlxRQ
@brenda on January 31st, 2008 2:54 pm
Yes both jail and mental sentence together is possible (most likely also).
Problem to trial him as an adult multiple shrinks will have to declare him mentally adult at that time, further is it neccesary that the nature off the crime is very bad (regular murder is the norm), like say an murder commited with an chainsaw or something like that.
For youre tape question, that is not that simple, if joran was drunk then it’s gonna be an blow to that evidence, but the tape is useable by the law, the right question would be “Will the judge accept the tape”, but the tape is NOT illigal in it’s self
Marije on January 31st, 2008 2:56 pm
So, Russians also had to spend hours in line for bread….why didn’t they just draw them some?
Maybe Paulus will have to take off his 2×4 strapped to his a$$ and use it instead to smack his little angel Joran the devil child.
Thanks Klooth…answered all of my questions.
Although I understand the law requires more than one doctor to declare him “an adult” both you and I as well as the rest of the posters understand he fits into that category. I mean, he was a regular gambler, regular drinker, travelled across the world, already (apparently) raped other girls….etc, etc. He is certainly alot more “street savvy” than many 17 year olds.
.62
Hackers have been able to get parts of the broadcast of next Sundays
Perhaps there will never be an end to this, and Natalee will be the next “Virginia Dare”, it wouldn’t surprise me.
God is working…keep praying.
@brenda on January 31st, 2008 3:09 pm
Yeah, whe all now what kinda sicko joran is and i would like to see him put away for a long time (if he did it, and they can prove it), but fact is that these kind of ‘perps’ are treated as ‘sick’ people which must be cured instead of being punished, i don not agree with that either but that’s what 40 years of left wing government has caused.
And for youre picture, our most right-winged politician would be considered as an left wingend politician in the US.
The democrats are considered as far-right in europe and the republicans are considered as extreem-right (and would have probably been outlawed in europe.)
But that’s for youre picture.
At all those posters above, I bet most of you wont be able to point out the Netherlands on a world map. But putting that aside, I find it rather disturbing to see you’re boycotting the Netherlands whilest most of the Dutch citizens would love to see Aruba become a country on its own. About Joran van der Sloot, according to several sources in the Netherlands he is the one killing Natalee Holloway.
Regular Dutch judgement would lead to him being put away for like a year and a half, I do however hope he will be sentenced for live in prison. *keeps dreaming*
Like Kloothommel said already, the left wing really made the Netherlands to a soft country regarding some things. About Drugs being sold on the streets, LMAO, please visit the Netherlands, or better, dont.
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SM: I personally believe that it would be a great statement for the Netherlands if it were Peter De Vries who did solve the case. I think it would restore much credibility to those Dutch in Aruba that gave many a bad name. However, I must disagree on your sentence for killing someone. Hell, people get more than that for killing an animal.
R
Kloothommel, I think the “Christenunie” (Christian Coalition) which is now part of the 3 party government coalition in The Netherlands could be well-compared to Republicans, especially when moral issues are concerend.
Let’s have pool, much bigger than the Superbowl:
Which of the perps will commit suicide in the next 100 hrs? Bonus to be awarded to the one who accurately indentifies the method used.
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SM: Well there are specific sites for death pools … that’s a bit over the top. Let’s just bet on Justice for Natalee.
R
Yep, MD, I’m not buying it either. It is just another get the family and friends hope up for justice. When I see J2K, Paulus and his cronies in handcuffs being led off to prison I’ll MIGHT believe it. Even then, I would still have my doubts. After all, they have been arrested before…and nothing happened to them…and we still don’t have Natalee back.
From what I’ve been hearing, deVries has Joran (I believe that it is Joran) on these secret films.
Someone has said that the Kalpoes were also on film … whether the same one, I don’t know.
One imagines that Joran probably blabbed to someone, but why now, after being quiet for so long? Or is this the first time that he was captured on film?
Anyway, I guess that all we can do is wait. Whatever information deVries may have, the real issue would seem to be what Aruba chooses to do with it.
And who knows if Joran is speaking the truth? He’s certainly come up with enough lies already, and if he’s a psychopath, as many of us suspect, he’s probably capable of coming up with more.
I certainly hope that this leads to answers, but we’ll have to see.
@ Love America on January 31st, 2008 3:20 pm : Well after Auschwitz Belzen, Hiroshima, the Killing Fields and Ruanda it is nice to know that God is in control again.
The Netherlands would love to see Aruba become independent because they are all corrupt and only cost us money. Unfortunately it would require a change in the constitution which is not an easy thing to pull of. But it sure is fun watching Hugo Chavez reeling whenever a US Aircraftcarrier is visiting Aruba (just a few miles of the Venzuelan coast).
Note to the SM: at my previous post. The sentence I would personally like to see being given would be life (misspelled, my bad) in jail.
“Dutch TV inspector (detective) Peter R. De Vries says that he has solved the case of Natalee Holloway.”
Every year or so, someone comes out with a book saying that they have solved the question of the identity of Jack the Ripper.
Nothing has been proved, though.
And would this new evidence be admissible in court?
Above all, let’s hope and pray that Beth, Dave, Matt, and the rest of the family aren’t being put through the wringer yet again to no avail.
#34 – If Aruba had allowed the F.B.I. to investigate and interrogate, Natalee’s case would have been solved 2 1/2 yrs ago. Had that happened then would F.B.I. Director, Robert Mueller,III be your king?
Take a deep breath and focus.
@Otto, the ‘Christen unie’ is only conservative on issue’s like abortion, gay marraige etc etc.
They are catagorized as an left wing party when it comes to social issue’s.
Even Wilders wouldn’t stand out of the crowd if he was an member of the democrats, and he is the most right politician whe have.
Heck, even balkenende would be tried by McCarthy for being an communist if Balkenende would have been an american politician in that era.
Erik on January 31st, 2008 3:36 pm
@ Love America on January 31st, 2008 3:20 pm : Well after Auschwitz Belzen, Hiroshima, the Killing Fields and Ruanda it is nice to know that God is in control again.
Oh Erik…please read again. I did not say God is in cotrol again because I never knew when he wasn’t. Sorry that you have a problem with God but that’s not my fault..it’s yours.
Marije on January 31st, 2008 1:32 pm
This is not about death or alive this is about dutch supremecy peter is really a hero he did this before this shows that 1 man from holland makes ur federal investigations a disgrace.
Peter for president of the u.s.a
How can our federal investigators be a disgrace when they weren’t even allowed to investigate?
Oh come on Kloot, All those politicians are the same kettle of fish, perhaps they are more subtle this side of the ocean (but Machiavelli was a European remember) but in the end they all gather at the Bilderberg.
Where or where are you posting,… on an American website? Says it all.
@Para2Legal on January 31st, 2008 3:42 pm
If that would have been done, than Joran would have laughed his ass off, the there would never ben an trial because all of that evidence would have been declared illigal and the entire case would have been corrupted, any evidence gathered by the FBI with the methodes you describe would have been illigal for good.
The FBI has NO jusrisdiction, not even if they where invited cuz, the civil rights off the suspect simply does not allow it.
to put it simple,
“No foreign instance is allowed to investigate an crime committed on the soil of the dutch kingdom”. period.
Regarding: #65 Marije on January 31st, 2008 2:56 pm
Marije…
According to Snopes.com:
The space pen story is an Urban Legend. The Space Pen was independently developed by the Fischer Pen Company, but the company was responding to NASA desires during the development. NASA did not fund the development, but did buy 400 pens at $2.95 each whenthey appeared on the market.
@I Love America on January 31st, 2008 3:47 pm:
Religion is the most brilliant political trick for control and intimidation – but that is all it is
International press-release by PRdVries:
http://www.peterrdevries.com/images/Press%20release.pdf
Before going back to read all the posts here, I want to mention that I heard this news this morning on a local radio show that offers very little news, mostly traffic, weather and sports. Nothing about a local case – Drew Peterson wanting a divorce from missing wife Stacy – but a short blurb about a Dutch crime reporter giving ALE some new info and that ALE is investigating. So much for this case going away. I wonder if Joran, Mama and Papa Sloot will give another interview, perhaps without alcoholic beverages?
So…what does everyone think is going on in the PR Crisis Management “War Room” in Aruba right now?
How are they going to spin, point blame at the victim, point blame at the family, point blame at Mountain Brook….what’s it going to be AHATA?
These boards are quiet….where’s Rammstein, Yoyo, and all of the others. Do you have to see what De Vries drops before working up a strategy? Why not go after De Vries now??? Start talking about how he is a whacko journalist that no one believes anyways. Do something!
AHATA, you have already confessed that you are combatting negative news stories against Aruba over the Natalee Holloway case with PR spin (see the two whacko psychics you paraded in front of cameras a few weeks ago for proof)….what’s it going to be AHATA?
Perhaps you could bring Boeti back for a mysterious siting or to tell that it was he who sold her drugs (oh wait…he already said he saw the two BLACK security guards sell Natalee drugs), or maybe have Renfro publish another story about some psychics, or maybe even use Renfro’s housekeeper for another siting (but after the statement, ship her out of the country never to be found…as she is illegal), or perhaps we could even have Dompig spin that the boat radar was fully operational and nothing was coming in and out of Aruba, or maybe you could talk about insurance scams.
AHATA, how do you combat this one? How is your ‘crack’ PR crisis management team handling what is currently going on.
I certainly hope that De Vries has cracked this case, as it will expose the criminal nature of AHATA, ALE, the prosecutors office, and the judiciary. No PR spin will be able to combat this.
You can now take Taco off of your payroll AHATA. You can also withdraw the Kalpoe’s lawsuit and stop paying their attorneys too AHATA.
AHATA = criminal PR spin enterprise.
MD
@ Kloothommel, you’re over reacting honey! You can’t possibly compare Wilders with the US Democrats.
Although I couldn’t care less what the Americans think about the Netherlands however, it would be nice if everyone would get their facts straight.
Aruba is part of the Dutch Kingdom however has a status aparte. This means that the Dutch investigators could only get involved in the investigation on Aruba once they were invited by the Aruban authorities. So boycott Aruba and the Netherlands as much as you want (we will come to the US since the dollar is doing so great) but it is not reasonable to blame the Dutch for the way the investigation of the dissapearance of Natalee was conducted.
Anyway, let’s wait and see what Peter R. de Vries comes up with….I hope of course that this case will be solved.
@Erik on January 31st, 2008 3:51 pm
If you mean that politician’s only ever look after themselfs, then you are right, they are equal all over the world.
But when it comes to other issue’s then there’s an universe off difference, the last dutch politician that pleaded for the death penalty is already 100 years dead while the US still has an death penalty.
While it’s an political nono in the US to legalize abortion, it’s an political nono to question the right off an abortion in the Netherlands, heck even the germans are more liberal than the US.
I simply cannot wait to see what the facts are. Gotta go but will be reading tomorrow!!!
@I Love America on January 31st, 2008 3:47 pm:
Religion is the most brilliant political trick for control and intimidation – but that is all it is
Bless your poor heart!
XV. Aruba
Update: Thurs 31-Jan 1330 hrs
The Persistence is currently working in the same general area as the last several days. Winds 25 kts with 6-10ft side seas. More later
Thurs 31-Jan 1040 hrs
The last several days saw outstanding progress in what was expected to be the roughest part of the search area. Last night, we learned why the local fishermen nicknamed this area “don’t go there”. The seas were a rather innocuous 2-3ft with pleasant 10kt breeze. Within an hour, the seas exploded into a 12-14ft torrent with 35kt sustained winds. After a few hours battling side seas the search team brought the sonar on deck amidst crashing waves of green water pouring over the back deck. We found an approximately 265ft long wreck lying upright on the seabed which is an eerie testament of this area’s volatile ferocity.
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/
[...] is being reported that Dutch Crime investigator Peter R. De Vries has solved the Natalee Holloway case. Beth Holloway is in the Netherlands and Aruban prosecutors are re-opening the case of Natalee [...]
By the way I’m very curious whether De Vries will be able to keep things quiet until his show coming Sunday (9.30 PM Dutch time)…
Was this posted yet?
De Vries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a25WGPTlxRQ
Courtesy Pita
@ 103 please read (some of) the posts before you write the obvious down…
#92, see #98: “Aruba is part of the Dutch Kingdom however has a status aparte. This means that the Dutch investigators could only get involved in the investigation on Aruba once they were invited by the Aruban authorities.”
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Ditto the F.B.I. Aruba asked for and then rescinded assistance. How about F.B.I.sending divers to Aruba and then Aruba refused to allow them to search. Remember Dompig asking the F.B.I. to bring cadaver dogs to check out an area where Natalee was buried based on an “informed” source. F.B.I. called Dompig on this and said name your source, Dompig wouldn’t, F.B.I. didn’t send dogs. Turns out the “informed” source was a low life relative of Dompig’s. Boeti.
@Amsterdam020 on January 31st, 2008 4:21 pm
That’s an automatic pingback to an other article reacting to this article.
To show current readers that there’s an new article on this subject.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/01/31/can-it-be-true-after-all-this-time-peter-r-de-vries-solves-the-natalee-holloway-case/
@Para2Legal on January 31st, 2008 4:29 pm
There is one thing you have to know.
It is NOT the prosecutor who decides what is legal or what is not legal, it’s the judge which who has to follow the constitution.
Judges are not allowed to speak an verdict that contradicts with the civil rights of the suspect (and thus the constitution).
Dompig can invite anyone who he like’s, even the queen mother off england, but that does not make it legal.
And if the FBI would have investigated Joran an comes up with evidence any trial using that evidence would hav been thrown out of court before it even would have begun.
It is not like the US where judges can take an decision that could change the working (or explanation) of the constitution, the dutch constitution is an fixed fact and can only be changed by an very long an difficult political process (which usally fails when it comes to civil rights).
To put it in simple words:
An judge is not allowed to test teh constitution to see how far it would bend to make that evidence legal.
Thus dutch constitutional rights go above any law, police or judge.
And as the whe have an Trias Politica, the prosecutor went way beyond his book by inviting the FBI.
7. OTTO – Can we use Beckham? He’s a Brit, but he’s in the U.S. It would give us half a chance.
11 & 25. KLOOTHAMMEL – (11) There are people in Florida who feel the same way. (25) Soccer players are some of the best conditioned athletes in the world. They just don’t have the bulk and brut power of the NFL, but they could sure outrun and outlast ‘em.
34. MARIJE U.S. didn’t investigate this case.
46. KLOOTHOMMEL Since he was treated as an adult by Aruba when he met Natalee (drinking and gambling regularly), I think he should be tried as an adult (if he ever is tried for this). But I’d be happy if there was a conviction and some significant jail time.
82. ERIK God gave mankind free will and free choice. Mostly we disappoint.
98. AMSTERDAM020 “but it is not reasonable to blame the Dutch for the way the investigation of the dissapearance of Natalee was conducted” I agree. We’ve seen some Dutch in Aruba with an elitist attitude who are corrupt and snubbed their noses at the Holloway-Twitty family and Americans in general. I don’t believe the Dutch are all that way. I often get angry that Americans are all judged by our lowest common denominators that the world chooses to hold up as examples. Devries and Andre Reiu are just two from the Netherlands that I think are fantastic!
I hope and pray that the information Mr. DeVries has will hold up in court. It sounds as if Hans Mos is looking for something to back up these recordings. Even with evidence, I have to wonder if Paulus’s friends in the judiciary will allow Joran to be convicted. Wait and see has been the mantra in this case.
Prayers for those on the Persistence. Be safe, be successful.
To clearify ont my last post.
If the FBI had come in with their dogs and the dogs would have found the body, then the body could be used as evidence.
But if the FBI finds the body and investigates the Knife sticking out, then the Knife cannot be used.
If they even so much as touch the body and the defense could proof that, then even the body can not be used as evidence, it’s an very thin line you cannot permit to cross because it could screw up the entire case.
Now guess what would happen if the FBI would interrogate Joran, damn the FBI could even be arrested for that and charged for kidnapping.
The other report mentions a news conference. Has anyone heard when this will occur? It simply said “in about an hour” but no reference from when. Hopefully someone will post it so I can know what’s happening. It’s odd that the reporter is leaking all kinds of things, like Beth talking with Natalee’s dad. It’s starting to smell like a circus trick. Hopefully not.
Maybe we could forego the bickering until we at least hear what DeVries has to say on Sunday? I don’t believe he would throw away a thirty year reputation and all credibility for ratings for one program.
And then we must see how this information is used to provide justice for this family. But at the very least, it would seem they will finally know much more than they did.
I appreciate Peter DeVries and all the effort he has put into solving this tragedy.
# 108 Thnx Kloothommel (nice name
)
I clearly wasn’t paying attention…
@Kat on January 31st, 2008 5:01 pm
Press conference has allready been given, only thing to come out is that Peter R de vries cracked the cases and that he has informed the family off natalee and the Aruban authorities about the new findings.
The rest off the world will have to wait till sunday to hear about these new facts.
Man…I’m really hoping Peter has the goods, but if we’re talking about his having Joran saying something incriminating…well, Joran will just claim it’s another lie.
Evidence is needed! Like a body to prove Natalee is even dead. I hope whatever Peter has will enable evidence to be found to qualify whatever Joran said. In the mean time….someone had better put a tail on Paulus and well, maybe stake out a certain area to see if anyone goes there to ‘fix’ things one last time.
All seems phrased very carefully “what happened to Natalee and what happened to her body.” I bet Peter did indeed have the tapes at the time of the mid-January TV interview. And #114, I wasn’t trying to infuse bickering, just a cynical American I guess.
Hoping and praying that this news truly resolves this case once and for all. It sounds as if Devries has a very good reputation among the Dutch, and has solved other cold cases, so that makes me more hopeful. It could be that the confession Devries got with his hidden camera contained enough details as to “how” and “where” Natalee was killed, that the ALE expects to be able to recover forensic evidence, which may be what they are doing now, and expect to have completed by Sunday, when Devries show airs. Hope that’s the case, and the information will lead to prosecution. But even if it doesn’t, just knowing the truth is worth a lot.
Justice 4 Natalee. Let’s do this thing!
http://tinyurl.com/263Xgg
http://tinyurl.com/34vzyh
Can we get off of football…I know many people love it…I for one think it’s one thing to tackle but another for whole to jump on top…that’s brutal…I much prefer baseball….but let’s get back to Natalee…OK!!!
Carpe…your a character…thanks for your humor!!!
Peter is standing on the beach and that I think is an indication she’s out to sea…otherwise if he knew anything indifferent I don’t think the Persistence would continue their search. So she was probably dropped at sea!! And maybe the Persistence is close to finding her…I hope so!!!
Here’s hoping…I think we can count on the fact that Peter knows what he is doing …I think Beth believes him…God Love Her..
According to the Dutch tv show Nova, Joran confessed to an Aruban guy in a casino in the Dutch city Nijmegen….
Joran, guilty about lying who he was, guilty of kidnapping, guilty of rape…guilty of murder, guilty of disposing of a body, guilty of numerous lies to distort the case, guilty of taking advice of his lawyer father….guilty of making a mockery of Natalee’s disappearance…sock it to him!!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps I’ve missed a telling post? How can, and at what time can the Sunday broadcast be accessed. Is there a website? A link? Will it be broadcast in Dutch or English? If Dutch, will there be English subtitles.
I would forgo watching the Super Bowl on the 50 yd line to be able to watch Joran go down in flames. Anyone know?
I think Peter’s findings were immediately directed and notified Beth…maybe for many good reasons we just have to wait….
Bob, about the Sunday broadcast, as far as I know it is being broadcasted at a Dutch television station. I could try to capture and stream the broadcast but it will certainly be in Dutch. Anyway I’m convinced it will be translated or subtitled eventually since this is a case the world is longing to see. I’d suggest checking his website http://www.petterrdevries.com (English) on a regular basis for more information.
At first I could not understand why Aruban divers, Coast Guard, and others were recently “working” on the Persistence. Now I believe I know why…..thank you Jesus.
The Polis had best place the perps on suicide watch list, I think the weak one will spit the bit shortly, and the rest will cough it all up.
When it is finally revealed which corrupt governmental Aruban authorities had knowlege all along and orchestrated the cover-up and attacks on the victims family…….the avenging archangel will surely decend on them with a vengence. God have mercy on them all.
Let us say for argument sake that Devires is correct.
Natalee’s remains are found and brought home.
The perps are prosecuted and do time; My questions is this: Will there be a SM life after all is said and done? Almost three years of sharing ideas, jabs, insults and lets not exclude that a wealth of knowledge has been uncovered; where do we go from here?
Thank you vitu #129. I am sure every Monkey and thousands of others will be sitting at the edge of their seats.
I’m not sure whether this was already posted but De Vries confirmed in a Dutch news broadcast that Natalee is no longer alive (in Dutch: “leeft niet meer”).
I can’t wait till Tacopina is on TV with the bulging viens in his neck….screaming no less
The Aruban Coast Guard and the and the Persistence have worked closely together….thank God…the Coast Guard has a different outlook..they are not Aruban Authorities…whom we definitely deline..but I think they are really good folks!!!
1006, the Natalee saga will never end, even when justice is meted out. Punishing the quilty will occur whether in a courtroom, in a cell block, or a prison corridor. It will be done. It always does. The most hardened cop killers in prison have no use for child molestors and murderers of innocent American females by foreign scum….it’s a guy thing.
Aruba as a third rate country will pay the price of global and world opinion for decades for their role in this travesty. Third world countries are unable to comphrend American justice resolve, and that was their first mistake.
A Japanese military General was once quoted immediately after the attack on Pearl Harbor when he said: “Gentlemen, I fear and regret we have awoken a sleeping giant……………”
By Aruba’s official’s childlike mental attitude towards human justice, they have subjected all of their citizens to ridicule, distain, disgust, and worse for generations to come. It’s almost a shame, but when the head rots….the whole fish wastes away. When the details of the insults to an American family and concerted attempts to cover up a heinous crime is broadcast to the world who is watching this unfold…..you won’t even need to mention the word BOYCOTT again. No one will even think of Aruba as any kind of destination for any reason. They are dead in the water, for good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqCCQsfAi_E
Special never seen before footage! Caught
on Peter DeVries hidden camera. :+)
justice 4 nat
If Peter has the first ounce of credible NEW evidence, why does the world have to wait until Sunday to find out what it is??? The mystery surrounding Natalee’s disappearance could get any more bizarre…
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
Reading a qoute like that from Beth is like a punch in the face…
BETH WE LOVE YOU & DAVE & MATT…WE’RE WITH YOU IN PRAYER AND SPIRIT AND STRENGTH. YOURS ARE THE SHOULDERS THIS INFO HAS FALLEN ON FIRST….WE HAVEN’T SEEN WHAT YOU’VE SEEN & HEARD BUT WE’RE WITH YOU IN THOUGHT & SPIRIT. NEVER LETTING YOU DOWN IN SUPPORT AND LOVE FOR NATALEE.
I don’t think the Netherlands care anymore if Aruba is dead in the water…it’s time to unload the problem..there is nothing but financial debt and crime…Hey Joran….look what you have brought about!!!!
#134
In this latest twist & turn, Peter’s show will be broadcast in NL, and he has no obligation to release ANY of his findings to ANY attorney whether Taco or others in advance. It appears that he has already turned over his “evidence” to Hans Mos and his people, and they are working feverishly to structure a winning case. At the same time, Persistence has been working over a high value area for several days. Connect a few dots, and the picture becomes clearer.
The next big TV splash you see will be the perps re-arrested, handcuffed, and jailed. Hey Roger, official greeter at the Alhambra Casino,….you want to tell me it was a staged farce by the family and everyone knows it again? You just watch the business at the Alhambra dry up and result in closing…Americans won’t be throwing money into your beat up slot machines anymore. And as for your friends at the Crystal in town, boats won’t be making Aruba a Port-o-Call any longer. It’s over, the bubble has burst.
Count on it.
I’m not sure whether it has been posted yet but I couldn’t let you people down. According to three unconfirmed sources Joran made a confession saying he disposed the body. Natalee’s dead however would have been an accident according to that same confession. Disposing a body however should be reason enough to lock the idiot up.
Accident or not, Paulus had be complicit, and Anita was aware of the crime as well. All 3 go to jail.
Can a neighbor water the house plants for the next 15 years?
Jurine is a very deranged & disturbed person and we don’t want him to hurt anyone else. Not a Dutch girl, American girl….nor any other.
I’m making a bold statement here but i think had we not stayed on Jurine and the family that enabled him & Aruba’s a$$’s more girl’s would’ve *vanished*. What or Who would be there to stop him? No one….as Aruba police and judiciary gave the greenlight to Jurine and anyone else who wanted to drug, kidnap and rape whomever they wanted.
Even murder.
Yet never forget…..Jurine killed Natalee niy it was/is the Aruban official’s and judiciary that got their sadistic jollies hurting Natalee and her family over and over again.
Message from Joe Tac:
“Yo, Paulie babe….ah, can’t get into this latest ting, yah know? I mean I got this lady in Santa Monica who ran 2 red lights and needs me bigtime. I ain’t got no time to fart around with you guyZ rite now, so good luck!”
Since Joran was allowed to drink and gamble as an adult, he should also be allowed to serve time as an adult.
I just watched a special on E – 20 Most Shocking Unsolved Murders…..MURDERS! And Natalee was top of the list! #1!
LOL!!!!!!!! Just wait for the Boston & New York travel shows. I betcha the make the evening newscasts. :~))
#109 Yeah the Judge has the say…there won’t be much of a test of the evidence if they rehire that crook who was a friend of the vds’ and was rumored to hav stayed at their house. Let’s hope they get someone else…Are you listening Mr Mos? Your credibility is on the line…AGAIN!
#138 Guess he’s got to make a living!
No Rick Smid…smuck!!!!
#146…I agree!!!!
148 Bob:
Everything is falling in place for the travel shows. Everything is prepared and on its way. We just need the ppl there to carry on.
There is a rather large Caribbean gathering at the Reagen Center in Wash. DC, in June. Would like to include that one as well.
By the way that was Rear Admiral Yamamoto who made the statement about the “sleeping giant”.
I don’t know if we can call ourselves a sleeping giant, but I would liken it more to “Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned” approach to the Dutch and Aruba.
In the background and biding time…
I hope Peter had final news for Beth…this time please be right…I don’t know how much more she could endure…it’s already above and beyond…I don’t think Peter would take her down a beaten path…
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4222253&page=1
If it was an accident then 911 should of been called…so you can’t call it an accident if you didn’t report it….it was just murder..there was no attempt to obtain help…you don’t get off with that one…I hope Peter burns your a$$ Joran like you burnt his eyes….only much worst!!! Much ,much worst!!!!
If it was only Joran then why would Beth be saying Look what THEY done.. to Natalee.? One of them already said in a chat session, the fact the fact girl is dead is not good. This has been so crazy for almost 3 years. I said before, Natalee hasn’t been alive since the night she went missing. I can only think of one reason why 3 guys would go out at closing time and move in on 1 intoxicated female and then lie repeatedly for almost 3 years when she’s missing.
De Vries sure is giving Paulus
the “hairy eyeball” in that pic!
Either PVDS is talkin’ stuff… or
he jes’ stepped in a steamin’ pile, & tracked it into the tv studio on his shoes.
Paulus, you can put your 2×4 away ’cause your not getin’ any for a long while. Anita the cow must be pretty upset that her monster is finally caught and his crime will be exposed on World news, You Tube indefinitely.
Looks like Peter has thrown down the gauntlet and brought out a major can of whoop ass! While you’ve been chasing Anita’s ass, he was getting the goods on Joran’s ass.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sleep well slim balls. Go back under the rock from which you came.
oh, and take the dirty little sloots under the rock with you. After what you’ve both done to cover up Joran’s crimes, they will have no chance to grow up to be good people. Do us all a favor and lock them away in advance of their future crimes.
Anita and Paulus….. THE WORST PARENTS ON EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The truth will come out and frontier justice will prevail! Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for Joran.
and why cnn, abc didn`t pass on tv that the 2 people from usa can to Aruba to say the thrut of beth !!!!!!!!!!!!!! that she did know that natalee was running from her !!!!!!!!!!!!
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SM: Because the American media knows the Kelly and Castillo story is BS (klaasend)