New Orleans Travel Show … Natalee Holloway Aruban Protest … Justice for Natalee Holloway Part IV

 

The entire New Orleans contingent that participated in the “Make the Travel Agents and people Aware” weekend need to be congratulated. What a tremendous job they did in reminding people that Natalee Holloway is still missing and Aruba is still doing nothing over 2 years later. Aruba does nothing, but somehow they expect Americans to reward them by going there on vacation and spending their hard earned money.

Thank you for the reports a long the way and the pictures. Scared Monkeys gives a big Hat Tip to those that came up with the idea of putting the “Where is Natalee” sign on the back of the horse drawn carriage (see picture below). BRILLIANT!  The amount of eyes that saw that poster in the streets of New Orleans  from an individual’s independent thought is simply fantastic. No ATA marketing campaign can compete with that type of grass roots ingenuity and perseverance.

Meetings for the travel convention were between 9:30 and noon. We set the banners up in new locations this morning. Many were able to see them as they drove to and from-or near-the Hilton. The travel agents themselves were coming and going on tours of the French Quarter and had to pass by the banners…

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About 12:30 we moved our efforts to the French Quarter, where there were organized tours for the attendees. The Quarter also was crowded with tourists and locals, as is usual on the weekends.

Grass had talked with a woman who runs the horse and carriage tours through the Quarter, and she was persuaded by him to allow us to place signs on the back of 3 carriages for one hour. That enabled many people to see the signs as they walked or rode through the Quarter. The carriages are quite visible. Jamie and I rode in one of these 3 carriages….and even were able to pass out a few brochures as the carriage stopped at several points along its route.

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All in all, we considered the weekend efforts a success. Many have not forgotten Natalee. Many were reminded she still is missing. Many showed great interest in the case. And hopefully, many travel agents got the message that Natalee is still missing, so Aruba is NOT a safe place to travel. There even were some brochures brought into the Hilton. We believe the Aruban delegates were well aware we were there!

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If you liked this post, you may also like these:

  • Washington, DC Travel Show, ACTS … June 21-24 … Help Provide Justice for Natalee Holloway
  • In Aruba They Strike and Protest for Higher Wages but not Justice for Natalee
  • New Orleans Travel Show … Natalee Holloway Aruban Protest … Justice for Natalee Holloway Part III
  • New Orleans Travel Show … Natalee Holloway Aruban Protest … Justice for Natalee Holloway, Part I
  • Boston Travel Show Part II: Aruba’s Travel Marketing Campaign vs Freedom of Speech




  • Comments

    84 Responses to “New Orleans Travel Show … Natalee Holloway Aruban Protest … Justice for Natalee Holloway Part IV”

    1. buster on July 2nd, 2007 10:15 am

      aruba it’s time to wake up !!!

    2. charlierat on July 2nd, 2007 10:17 am

      Granted the mystery of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruba has not been solved yet but, how can you say that “Aruba is still doing nothing over 2 years later. Aruba does nothing…” with a straight face? The herculean efforts of Aruban law enforcement and Dutch investigators have been well documented.

      _________________
      SM: I actually just woke up a bit ago and thought I was seeing things :) :) You mean the herculean efforts by some in ALE to coverup a crime? (klaasend)

    3. Rebecastyling on July 2nd, 2007 10:27 am

      Arubans think americans are stupid.{{EDIT}}.The boycott rolls on!!!

    4. charlierat on July 2nd, 2007 10:34 am

      Well, klaas, as Rep. Spencer Bachus so eloquently pointed out, you don’t spend 40% of your annual law enforcement budget on a case that you’re trying not to solve.

    5. Vicki on July 2nd, 2007 10:41 am

      charlierat, how can you in a clear mind say that??Are you kidding me?? They did nothing but cover up this horrible crime. and continue to do so. WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY!!! There will be more travel shows…WE WILL NOT STOP. This VILE EVIL PLACE needs to be brought to its knees for the unforgivable way they all acted towards Beth and family,never mind Natalee. We the people will forever tell everyone we meet about this awful place. GREAT JOB IN Nawlins!!!!!!

    6. Sahara on July 2nd, 2007 10:49 am

      Herculean? Pffft! That is rich! Give em’ some more frosted flakes! The time line of the the main three and the father don’t add up. The cover up is what has been well documented!!

    7. NM on July 2nd, 2007 10:56 am

      Huge hugs and kisses to those representing Natalee in N.O.
      You did an outstanding job.
      Thank you for being there from those of us that could not be there.

    8. joe bear on July 2nd, 2007 11:00 am

      Good Job Monkeys.I am suprised Rats can read.

    9. flippy on July 2nd, 2007 11:00 am

      Yeah, they spent a lot on those Jets to fly over the island. That has never quite sat well with me…can anyone tell me what those jets were supposed to accomplish? There is no possible way that a jet pilot could eyeball anything?

    10. Jerry from Ohio on July 2nd, 2007 11:07 am

      GREAT GOING New Orleans MONKEYS !!!
      WOW that “rat guy” must be wearing blinders like we use when we don’t want a Horse to see everything that their going thru

    11. Miss-Underestimated on July 2nd, 2007 11:20 am

      The herculean efforts of Aruban law enforcement and Dutch investigators have been well documented.

      Really? And tell us what was the EVIDENCE that Van Der Straaten had to say it was a murder case? And why was there NOT a herculean effort to prosecute based on Jan’s EVIDENCE of murder?

    12. sharon on July 2nd, 2007 11:23 am

      Great job!

      A big Thank You to all the Natalee supporters in NOLA.

      AVOID ARUBA!

      Justice for Natalee Holloway

    13. disgustedmom on July 2nd, 2007 11:33 am

      #9, that’s a good question about the jets. The way I understand it they fly over several times photographing the same spots. They photograph using some sort of thing that shows up ‘heat spots’ so I assumed they were looking for ‘body heat’ in strange places that doesn’t move about from picture to picture, perhaps even a fresh burial site with a warm body might show up and be of interest if that burial site is in a place out of the norm. Stuff like that.

      But IMO I find it ‘overkill’ so I think it was a thing where the planes were probably scheduled to fly about in that area anyway and they just said it was about the Natalee case to make everyone think they were really really going out of their way trying to find her. It’s got to be BS because it costs way too much to take those planes off the ground in the first place and the authorities have never been even half that interested in solving this case.

    14. Richard on July 2nd, 2007 11:35 am

      Putting the Natalee posters on the back of the horse-drawn carriage was a stroke of absolute genius.

      And kudos are also due to the lady (I won’t give her name here) who so generously donated her New Orleans timeshare to the use of participants. And, of course, to all those who contributed money, time, or just good wishes.

      Just think: Aruba would not only have been unable to expect or plan for the outpouring of spirit and determination that has been shown for Natalee and her family … Aruba was, is, and perhaps always will be unable even to comprehend it.

      Because such a thing would never happen on Aruba.

      To Arubans, doing something means sending their morons to forums such as this one to make asinine remarks. We see them in this thread already. Pay them no heed.

    15. LilPuma on July 2nd, 2007 11:38 am

      #4. It would be foolish to spend 40% of your law enforcment budget on a case you don’t want to solve. But if a public relations firm tells you to put on a show for the American media, then it would come out of the tourism budget, not law enforcement. Tell the accountants.

    16. mayan_moons on July 2nd, 2007 11:59 am

      Kudos to all of you for getting those signs on the carriage’s and those brochures inside the Hilton!

      You Guys Are Good!

    17. joe bear on July 2nd, 2007 12:01 pm

      Depends on what your budget is and what is to be spent on.

    18. Brie on July 2nd, 2007 12:18 pm

      Arubans, knock on Joran’s door, long and hard.

      Anita say Natalee went with Joran willing…..and she thought she was going where…..?…. she was drug inducted…..said he was a foreign student staying at the Holiday Inn….went to Carlos’s on another one of his perverted journey’s…he kidnapped her, that was just the beginning….Joran is from the pits of the preyed. Anita and Paulus are every bit as guilty.

      It’s curtain call time, let the fires be lite!!!!

    19. KrisG on July 2nd, 2007 12:21 pm

      THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO WENT TO NEW ORLEANS. YOU ARE WONDERFUL, CARING, BRILLIANT PEOPLE!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

    20. Pearl on July 2nd, 2007 12:36 pm

      “Herculean efforts” by ALE and Dutch Investigators! (LOL) – #2.

      I dare say, Minnie Mouse could lift and carry more investigative effort with her little pinky than the thugs who stood before cameras claiming that everything was being done to “find her”…and the biggest LIE OF ALL: “WE ARE LOOKING EVERYWHERE”. ( EXCEPT – “THE HOUSE” – because that might lead us to FIND HER.)

      What is telling is that critters from the underground would suggest with a straight face: “She just kind of vanished”.

      What is compelling is an ALE official who struts himself into the cameras to pronounce: “She could have come thru another way” ( and lie with a straight face, while hiding from the cameras that HE ALREADY KNOWS – SHE WAS NEVER DROPPED OFF AT THE HOTEL AT ALL.)

      What is revolting is the suggestion that a “SEARCH” was being conducted and to state this with a straight face to two suffering, grieving parents, desperately trying to find their baby, while those in charge were literally granting CRIMINALS MORE TIME TO ERASE EVERY LAST TRACE of those two parents little girl.

      Straight face?

      How about saying with a straight face:

      CONTAIMENT OF THE BEATEN, GANG RAPED, DRUGGED, KIDNAPPED, MURDERED YOUNG GIRL NAMED NATALEE HOLLOWAY, AND FREEDOM FOR THE CRIMINALS WHO BUTCHERED HER, AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYONE’S SAFETY AND FREEDOM DOESN”T SOUND “TOO HAPPY”, AND SURE DOESN”T COME ACROSS AS “PARADISE”?

      Can you say: No containment for little girls, gang raped, kidnapped, and drugged in Aruba, followed by murder and desecration of the victim’s body – with a STRAIGHT FACE?

      HOW ABOUT SAYING THIS WITH A STRAIGHT FACE:

      END THE CONTAINMENT OF THE BRUTALLY VICTIMIZED NATALEE HOLLOWAY, AND START A REAL INVESTIGATION THAT LEADS TO RESULTS OF TRUTH AND JUSTICE FOR NATALEE’S FAMILY AND CONTAINMENT OF THE CRIMINALS WHO ROBBED HER OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS AND MURDERED HER.

      Better yet, practice this with a ‘straight face’:

      ARUBA CONFINES THE VICTIMIZED TOURISTS WHILE FREEING THE GANG RAPISTS AND MURDERERS.

      ARUBA SAYS: “NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW”.
      WHAT ARUBA DOES: DISREGARDS THIS CLAIM, ASSAULTS THE VICTIM’S FAMILY, DESECRATES THE VICTIM, AND ALLOWS THE PREDATORS TO ROAM FREE ON THE BEACHES!

      ARUBA SAYS: “WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING TO FIND HER”.
      WHAT ARUBA DOES: DISREGARDS THE 3 MEN EYEWITNESSED TAKING NATALEE AWAY, DISREGARDS CONDUCTING ANY MEANINGFUL SEARCHES DIRECTLY LINKED TO THE VIOLATIONS INFLICTED UPON NATALEE, AND PROCEEDS TO FRAME TWO INNOCENT BLACK MEN.

      ARUBA SAYS: “THEIR STATEMENTS ARE CONSISTENT.”
      WHAT ARUBA DOES: Disregards all the LIES told by the three men who took Natalee away and all the evidence proving they are lying, and then proceeds to IGNORE WHERE THEY TOOK HER AS A POINT TO SEARCH, WHILE RE-WORKING ALL THE LYING STATEMENTS TO EVENTUALLY COME UP WITH: “WE LEFT HER ON THE BEACH”.

      ARUBA SAYS: “WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING TO FIND HER.”
      WHAT ARUBA DOES: Completely AVOID searching the CAR that they used to take her away in, and THE HOUSE, that they state they went to because they were all “BORED” after spending all of fifteen minutes at C and C before they drugged her, kidnapped her, and led her away, gang raped her, beat her and then murdered her, followed with desecrating her body over and over again.

      In order to speak with a STRAIGHT FACE, you need to first have a handle on WHAT THE TRUTH IS!

      NATALEE’S TRUTH – NOT MURDEROUS LIES!
      NATALEE’S JUSTICE – NOT FREEDOM FOR GANG RAPING MURDERERS!

      CONTAIN THE KIDNAPPERS, THE GANG-RAPISTS, THE MURDERERS, THE CONTAMINATED MINDS THAT WOULD SEEK TO DESECRATE A LITTLE GIRL’S BRUTALLY VICTIMIZED BODY, IN ORDER TO HIDE THEIR WRETCHED EVIL FROM JUSTICE!

      FIND NATALEE’S TRUTH AND JUSTICE, THEN YOU WILL HAVE CREDIBILITY TO TALK ABOUT STRAIGHT LINES, AND STRAIGHT FACES!

      THE STRAIGHT FACE IS THE FACE THAT SPEAKS TRUTH.
      THE STRAIGHT FACE IS THE FACE THAT PURSUES JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!

      TWISTED LIES CAN BE CONJURED UP WITH “STRAIGHT LYING FACES”, BUT NATALEE’S TRUTH WILL CONQUER THEM AND LAY BARE THEIR CONTEMPT FOR JUSTICE, HONOR AND TRUTH!

      NICE JOB, New Orleans Monkeys!!!

      EXCELLENT POSTER: HOPE FOR NATALEE – MISSING TWO YEARS IN ARUBA.

      NO JUSTICE FOR NATALEE, NO TOURISM FOR ARUBA.

      PROTECT ALL CHILDREN AND DEMONSTRATE STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS AND TRANSPARENCY IN THE “INVESTIGATION” THAT IS NOW CLAIMING TO BE GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS: DEMONSTRATE JUSTICE AS BEING VALUED, WITH THE STRAIGHT TRUTH, THE STRAIGHT PATH TO JUSTICE THAT LEADS CRIMINALS TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CONTEMPTABLE CONDUCT, AND THE STRAIGHT RETURN OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY TO THE USA, AND HER LOVING FAMILY.

      MAKE STRAIGHT THE CROOKED PATHWAYS OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT IN ARUBA THAT STRIPPED NATALEE HOLLOWAY OF HER HUMAN RIGHTS AND CONTINUES TO VICTIMIZE NATALEE AND HER FAMILY!

    21. Brie on July 2nd, 2007 12:37 pm

      #16…sorry..ment to say drug induced…I’m sure we’ll find another use for the word inducted

      Indeed, the carriages was a genius idea!! How clever, and it looks very fitting.!

    22. Smish on July 2nd, 2007 12:46 pm

      Hi Monkees.
      I too want to thank the ones who went to NO and supported the trip.
      What an amazing group of caring people we have here!
      About those F-16′s flying over Aruba…..looking for a WARM body buried in the sand?OK,that makes no sense at all.
      I have a article or 2 about those F-16′s….I will post them if I can find them.
      I was also hearing rumors(at the time of the F-16 fly overs)that those F-16′s were not sent to specifically look for Natalee.I heard they were on some other type mission and were asked to fly over Aruba….all more Aruba media show.

    23. Mike on July 2nd, 2007 12:49 pm

      Hey Rat,

      Shouldn’t you be out chasing an ambulance or something?

    24. Smish on July 2nd, 2007 12:53 pm

      F-16 Article #1

      This is from aruba.com news page…the first part of the article is covered with a image,not sure why but knowing aruba,it makes me suspicious.Also,very interesting OLDER articles at this web page.I’m not sure if I know how to do links but their web page is aruba.com…..look up archived articles/news.

      From their web page:
      July 05, 2005 – 09:19
      F-16′s and KDC- 10 arrived at Naval Air Station Hato, Curacao

      Three F-16 aircraft of the Royal Netherlands Airforce arrived at Naval Air Station Hato on Curacao today around 13.00 hrs. They will be deployed in the search for the missing girl Natalee Holloway. The aircraft have special equipment on board with which they can scan the whole island.

      The deployment of the aircraft is done at the request of the Aruban authorities and it is not yet known how long this will last. The F-16′s left the Netherlands last Sunday and flew about 7.000 kilometers via the Azores. On their flight they were refueled by a KDC-10. This transport and refueling aircraft also transports the materiel and the contingent of about 40 air force personnel.

      During their search the F-16′s make use of the so-called Mars-pod (Medium Altitude Reconnaissance System) with daylight cameras, or a targeting pod that can make infrared images. The targeting pod target indicator system is a cradle that is fixed underneath the plane, with a laser guided target indicator and a TV and infrared camera. The Mars-pod is also a cradle with two Recon Optical KS-87B daylight cameras, equipped with 12 inch lenses (306 mm) that can make detailed pictures. The cameras can also be equipped with other objectives. Each camera has a film cassette with 75 meters of film, for about 600 shots. These are then analyzed by specialists, the so-called ‘photo-interpreters’ of the ‘Mobile Fil Procesing Unit’ of Volkel Airbase. The F-16′s will fly at different altitudes.

      The three F-16′s are deployed on the request of the Aruban authorities. In the search for the missing girl the Department of Defense has deployed personnel and equipment from the beginning. On the request of the Aruban authorities, Royal Netherlands Marines have participated in various search actions, thus mobilizing a total of about 200 persons, a helicopter and various vessels.

    25. joe bear on July 2nd, 2007 1:07 pm

      The results speak volumes.When VDS says he has seen the evidence,and well that also speaks volumes

    26. Pearl on July 2nd, 2007 1:16 pm

      ANOTHER BIG ALE LIE: ‘We’re looking everywhere’.

      So, they proceed to send out F16′s, but FAIL TO SEARCH “THE HOUSE”.

      They proceed to head for San Nicholas on June 7th, but FAIL TO SEARCH “THE HOUSE” on May 30th.

      They give everyone a “day off” to “SEARCH”, ANYWHERE BUT THE HOUSE on June 7th, but they FAIL TO SEARCH “THE HOUSE” !!!

      THEY PROCEED TO ARREST TWO INNOCENT BLACK MEN WITH ALIBIS, BUT FAIL TO CONDUCT A “LINE-UP” SO DEEPAK, THE “LAMP”, CAN ILLUMINATE EVERYONE ON HIS VERSION OF WHAT THOSE “FAKE” GUARDS LOOK LIKE.

      Sounds like extraordinary efforts to appear transparent, while knowing full well that those “searches” would yield absolutely NOTHING.

      Two years later: THEY BEGIN TO SEARCH “THE HOUSE”.

      Meanwhile, the spinners want pictures of the time-stamped date of the DUMP TRUCKS AND FURNITURE DELIVERY TRUCKS PARKED AT THE VAN DER SLOOT HOUSE, RIGHT AFTER NATALEE WAS REPORTED “MISSING”.

      HEY ARUBA: GOT NATALEE’S TRUTH YET?

    27. Houston on July 2nd, 2007 1:25 pm

      #24 Those F-16s went to Aruba to Map the ABC islands…not to hunt for NH. They need better maps to do some long range planning, new hotels, roads, etc. There was a newspaper article that explained this….the hunt for NH was just an add on.

    28. JusticeforNatalee on July 2nd, 2007 1:28 pm

      Klaas hit the nail on the head.

      Aruba has spent a lot of time and money to spin, stall,
      and cover up.

      That’s where the time and money has gone.

      Investigation 101: Apprehend the last ones
      seen with a missing person. SEPARATE THEM
      AND INTERROGATE. DO NOT LET THEM ROAM FREE
      FOR TEN DAYS WHEN YOU KNOW THEY’VE LIED.
      DO NOT ARREST SOMEONE ELSE
      BASED THEIR LIES.

      DUH-RUBA

    29. flippy on July 2nd, 2007 1:30 pm

      *IF* this fly-over approach had any real chance of working, why have I never heard of an FBI helicoptor being used in our domestic abductions when searching for crime scenes?

    30. 10061906 on July 2nd, 2007 1:31 pm

      smish: You’ve been had….
      The F16′s were on a mapping mission. The ALE convienently mentioned they would be used to look for Natalee: They could find her if she were at sea and as big as a submarine. The good old USA supplied the refueling tankers for the F16′s when they flew back to Holland. They were delayed two weeks because the Dutch refueling tankers were in Afganastan and the US had to redeploy its tankers.

    31. Carpe Noctem on July 2nd, 2007 1:41 pm

      Respectfully,

      …and by respectfully, I mean not!!!

      I think the only way one could classify what

      Aruba Law Enforcement has done in the Natalee Holloway Case

      as a huge “Herculean Effort”…

      …is if Hercules was a big flower lovin’ closet pussy!

      BOYCOTT ARUBA until they dispose of the

      murdering / raping Van der sloot and Kalpoe

      family of carnivores. They are rapists and killers.

      http://tinyurl.com/2qypkX
      (hey charles, you’re still a flamin’ macaroon,
      & you look like a guy in drag… ya big duga$$!)

      http://tinyurl.com/3c23h5

      http://tinyurl.com/2mgstj

    32. Pearl on July 2nd, 2007 1:48 pm

      28 – J4N, you said it!

      Integrity doesn’t need to hit you over the head with a sledge hammer, in order for everyone to wake up and take notice that if and WHEN it is present.

      FOLLOW THE LIES.
      FOLLOW THE THREE LIARS EYE WITNESSED AS HAVING TAKEN NATALEE AWAY!
      CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION, NOT A “PR” “WE ARE SO HAPPY AND SAFE” STUNT.

      HEAD ON OVER TO: “THE HOUSE” AND CONDUCT A SEARCH.
      SHOW SOME INTEGRITY RATHER THAN MORAL DEPRAVITY.
      SEARCH: THE CAR AND THE HOUSE, IF YOU SINCERELY WANT TO “FIND HER” AND SINCERELY WANT TO “LOOK EVERYWHERE”.

      SIMPLE THINGS WOULD HAVE GONE SUCH A VERY LONG WAY TOWARD FINDING NATALEE, AND CLEARLY, THEIR REVEALING CONDUCT STATES RATHER TELLINGLY THAT THEY SIMPLY DID NOT WANT TO “FIND HER”.

      INSTEAD, THEY MOUNTED THIS BIG, FAKE, LIE, PUBLICITY STUNT OF A “SEARCH”, TO MAKE IT “APPEAR” THEY WERE LOOKING, ALL THE WHILE – AVOIDING ….WHAT? …(the VERY PLACES THEY KNEW WHICH WOULD LEAD …. TO FINDING HER, AND HER TRUTH!)

      – THE THREE LIARS WHO TOOK NATALEE AWAY
      – THE LYING FATHER WHO COULDN”T ARTICULATE ONE SENTENCE WORTH OF TRUTH CONCERNING WHERE HE WAS AND WHAT HE SAW AND DID ON MAY 29th.
      – SEARCHING THE CAR THEY TOOK NATALEE AWAY IN
      – SEARCHING “THE HOUSE” THEY ADMIT THEY WENT TO, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL “BORED”.

      DUH-RUBA,HOW ABOUT DUH-TRUTH, NOW!

    33. Carpe Noctem on July 2nd, 2007 1:56 pm

      Why do people let Joran say crap like

      this about Natalee Holloway, and not call him out?

      Dutch Mag Interview
      http://tinyurl.com/2lompk

      Hey J, you’re a pig!

      J is an effing pig, & he comes

      from a long line of pigs.

      JUSTICE 4 NATALEE

      http://tinyurl.com/2u4t4d

    34. flippy on July 2nd, 2007 2:00 pm

      Ooookay, so the F16 were for a mapping mission, yet they billed it to the “Search for Natalee account” in order to inflate the perceived cost of the investigation. Makes sense.

    35. Carpe Noctem on July 2nd, 2007 2:15 pm

      Hey Joran did u do

      this one, or was this a

      Lorenzo flourish?

      Did he do

      this to make it seem that she was

      attacked by a random mugger on the beach?

      … Arubay 24 Frame

      http://tinyurl.com/2asgku

      It didn’t work,

      The world knows you raped

      and killed her. -j4n

      Boycott Aruba

    36. Carpe Noctem on July 2nd, 2007 2:21 pm
    37. Pearl on July 2nd, 2007 2:36 pm

      Good catch there, Flippy!

      The exaggeration of the “costs” they claimed to have incurred in “searching” for Natalee, along with the “searching” of Joran’s “phone records” for May 30 that was carried out by none other than Van der Straaten, while completely avoiding the questioning of Sanders Gottenbos
      (probably because of the need to then have to search HIS PHONE RECORDS FOR MAY 30) – and beyond, is right up there with: the “We’re looking everywhere for her” LIE, ( …everywhere, except THE HOUSE and THE CAR that we know she was taken to), and “She could have come thru the hotel another way” LIE,(…”another way” other than the big lying way, pin-pointed by Joran, Deepak and Satish on May 30, 2005.)

      ALL LIES LEAD TO THE SAME PLACE: DERAILMENT OF NATALEE’S TRUTH, OBSTRUCTION TO NATALEE’S RIGHT TO JUSTICE, CONTAINMENT OF NATALEE’S VICTIMIZED BODY, WHILE DENYING HER FAMILY THE RIGHT TO TAKE THEIR CHILD HOME AND BURY HER WITH DIGNITY!

      Aruba’s criminals has really slithered to a new level of low, with the ease with which lies, false information, deliberate obstructions and corruption continue to be carried out.

      Sound “safe” and “happy” to you, Flippy?

      Sounds like the big “pr” spectacular was getting sold by big whopper liars who thought they could pull a fast one over on the USA concerning this precious, victimized child named Natalee Holloway, whose human rights were VIOLATED OUT IN THE OPEN, and THEN…SANCTIONED BY ARUBAN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ARUBAN JUDICIARY OFFICIALS…who were putting on the LIE-EXTRAORDINAIRE, that they were “looking everywhere” to find Natalee !!!

      DUTCH INVESTIGATIVE TEAM: PUT YOUR INVESTIGATION WHERE THE TRUTH IS!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!

      CONTAINMENT FOR ARUBA’S KIDNAPPING, RAPIST-MURDERERS WHO VIOLATED NATALEE’S HUMAN RIGHTS!

      CONTAIN THE CRIMINALS, NOT THE VICTIM!!!

    38. SUPER DAVE on July 2nd, 2007 2:50 pm

      #4: that would be true for most countries but, we are still talking about aruba ! a place where you can murder, rape, and lie about it without any reprocussions. so why wouldn’t they lie about how much money they spent on searching for Natalee? as far as i can see aruba has been one big lie right from the start. i think with the evidence that has been presented this case would already be solved here in the U S.

    39. Vicki on July 2nd, 2007 3:23 pm

      Hey Carpe, Im with you. I would love to smash that smirk off of his stupid face…he makes me sick, but he is living in hell.Who would date him now? He cant even go back to DUHRUBA for fear of his life…the {{edit}}..

    40. Ashley on July 2nd, 2007 4:25 pm

      Yeah,
      you all doing very well!

      BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!
      JUSTICE FOR DAVE AND BETH.

    41. gutfeeling on July 2nd, 2007 4:30 pm

      A heartfelt thanks to all of you who went to New Orleans. Your work was outstanding and each person that you reached will have an exponential effect. You are the voice for all who want to send a message that advertising to attract toursists and then choosing not to investigate crimes against them is unacceptable. Hats off to all of you.

      -Gutfeeling

    42. Brie on July 2nd, 2007 4:37 pm

      JORAN…..Jo….Ran….your mouth like a stinking, smelling sewer…yo guts are rotting.

    43. LilPuma on July 2nd, 2007 4:42 pm

      Wow! Pearl! Some great points there!

      Aruba’s campaign to discredit the family and victim of Aruba’s young men backfired. Oh, there will always be some who think that if a woman drinks or wears a short skirt or flirts then anything goes. A guy can’t be held responsible for his actions. But civilized and intelligent people know better. Deepak says Natalee “dressed like a slut”. Well, Aruba, we’ve seen pictures of Natalee the last night of her life and we’ve seen pictures of Aruban women partying with the Pimps and Natalee was very much a lady. Has Dennis Jacobs done anything about that little problem he mentioned where people at C&C’s sometimes put something in your drink?

    44. Brie on July 2nd, 2007 5:07 pm

      LilPuma…Jacobs has does nothing about C&C’s, he’s too busy eating his corn flakes and waddling around saying things under his breath about Natalee in Papiamento.

      C&C’s is owned by Alberto Levy, Rafael Levy, resides in Miami Fla, and has alleged association with international porn

      Some of the pictures I’ve seen, especially with Joran, are whores and prostitutes in San Nicholas. One girl admitted to having sex with Joran and using ecstacy but she said it was concensual. Now that’s a slut.

      Joran and the Kalpoes like disgrading Natalee…Natalee is far too superior of anything they’ll ever be. They are the disgusting low life slim that slithers the island.

    45. Allan K on July 2nd, 2007 5:18 pm

      Only money that was spent for Natalee was covering up for the guilty party. Paulus and son, evil perverts. I wish that trash would get found out with some hard evidence.

    46. Brie on July 2nd, 2007 5:47 pm

      I think there was plenty of evidence and it was available in the very beginning. But there is so much illegal stuff going on over there, they’re all afraid of being exposed. They all have something on each other…It’s the, if you tell I’ll tell. So nobody talks and they just hide all the dirt. But what happens when you dig up the dirt. Some of the pimps have already fleed the island, along with their families. They know what’s coming.

    47. chris on July 2nd, 2007 6:40 pm

      I think it would be so cool if some girl were to slip the sporter a little pill in one of his drinks causing him to blab. I really don’t see why it hasn’t been done yet. You’d think knowing that someone would do that to him may cause him to go on the wagon indefinitely. We need to spread the word that people are out there trying to do just that. Don’t know why we haven’t thought of that before. Calling all girls in the Netherlands as well as Aruba who might give the hairy ape his due…..

    48. hammer on July 2nd, 2007 8:46 pm

      OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

      The Kalpoe brothers, each and individually, by virtue of their INTENTIONALLY FALSE WITNESS STATEMENTS of 5/31/05 are:

      GUILTY

      …of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. Where is the rightful and valid prosecution of these criminals? Where is the prosecution of these two for CONSPIRACY TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE?

      They are plainly guilty.

      The coverup included the naming of these two scumbags as “SUSPECTS” to AVOID the charges of OBSTRUCTION.

      Release the dirtbag Kalpoe’s from “suspect status” and name them as WITNESSES. And DEMAND THE TRUTH under penalty of law for OBSTRUCTION.

      What’s so hard?

      They are easy to turn.

      C’mon charlierat, another hired hand of the Aruba-Spin-Brigade. What’s so hard about enforcing the law? Is it really that hard?

      It’s a good God-Damned thing for scumbag Paulus that this wasn’t my daughter. The evangelical learnings and beliefs described on other threads demonstrate the power of the Lord — BUT — I am different. And as such, I believe different. I make my luck, by my hand.

      PROSECUTE THE OBVIOUSLY GUILTY KALOPE BROTHERS.

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEEE HOLLOWAY.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA!!

      .

    49. Brie on July 2nd, 2007 9:41 pm

      Paulus has probably done some pretty bad things in his life. Misuse of his law experience and knowledge. Participation in Natalee’s disappearance is the absolute worst of all. Van der Sloots two younger boys are headed for a world of trouble. If Anita has any sense at all, she had better re-construct her life and worry about the future of her young children. But that would be caring and concern and trying to provide a decent life for them. However, she isn’t going to do that, for her, it’s all about raising delicious sporter’s.

      Who knows, in the past,how many times Paulus has pulled off his dirty deals.

    50. justme on July 2nd, 2007 10:25 pm

      #39–Please do not use the word “retard” to insult. This is just as bad as a racial slur. The word retarded has a meaning which should be respected. Retarded people and their families often feel punched in the stomach when they hear this misused.

      May I ask Klassend to please edit when posters use this word inappropriately. Thank you.

      _____________
      SM: I can’t always catch them all but I did edit this one. (klaasend)

    51. SM Sam on July 2nd, 2007 10:38 pm

      Thank you Karo, Grass and Jaime from all of us who support Justice For Natalee. You did an incredible job.

      Speaking of jobs. You have a police department whose officers work so many hours per day. They get paid for that number of hours.Whether there is crime or not. I would think they would have to eat there frosted flakes on their own time as well as shave. I think the claim of how much of there budget was spent on the Natalee case was truly just there ordinary expenses but maybe they had to do some actual work so they counted it as spent on the one case even though it would have been spent regardless.

      As to the F16′s. Pilots are required to get a certain number hours of flying time. That is all that was.JMHO
      SM Sam

    52. Brie on July 2nd, 2007 11:39 pm

      Not only did the “waddler” eat his frosted flakes and shave on company time….Beth and Dave had to sit there an wait until he finished. They are all so ungodly rude!

    53. Carpe Noctem on July 3rd, 2007 12:21 am

      Joran THE MURDERER Van der sloot’s

      new girlfriend from

      Arnhem was captured

      on camera yesterday!

      Here’s your link:

      http://tinyurl.com/34vzyh

      ….

      -J4N

      http://tinyurl.com/3526dd

    54. sparrow on July 3rd, 2007 12:36 am

      I would think that between the beatings joran gives his brothers, he probably abuses, beats-up his poor excuse for parents, after all joran is the boss. The van der scum house has to be a house of horrors. anita’s delicious sporter>>don’t you know she wishes he had never been born.

      deepak, have you been to the House lately? deepak, the stupid. What a dumb-ass. joran’s slave. joran, paulus, deepak and satish, you’re all a bunch of murdering cowards.

    55. Richard on July 3rd, 2007 6:08 am

      Brie (#49) … I’m also inclined to suspect that Paulus of the Ditch, in common with many other Aruban officials, has ties with drug dealers. I mean the ones on a level to cultivate people they think might be useful to them.

      Absolutely no evidence. But we remember that scene where perspiration was pouring off him … hard for me to think that he’d be afraid of a petite lady such as Beth Twitty to that extent.

      Someone who administers punishments such as the bouncer found in the cave, on the other hand, might inspire that amount of fear.

      I’m still wondering about his trips to Venezuela and Miami.

    56. ScottK on July 3rd, 2007 8:22 am

      Natalee’s family should hire some undercover CIA agents to kidnap Joran and use military tactics of torture to get him to tell what he did to Natalee.

    57. disgustedmom on July 3rd, 2007 9:02 am

      #52…Brie! Did he SHAVE at the police station? I never heard that before! Why would he do that? Did he not go home the night before? I mean was he out all night covering up stuff?

    58. Vicki on July 3rd, 2007 9:42 am

      Im sorry didnt mean to offend anyone…its my age coming thru….

    59. disgustedmom on July 3rd, 2007 10:05 am

      Here’s something interesting about crimes….it is said that the perp leaves behind on average about 30 forms of evidence no matter how clean they think they have made the crime. Of those 30, the investigators usually only find about 5, but mostly that’s enough to prosecute so they don’t go looking for more than they have to.

      By ‘forms of evidence’ it is not just physical things like DNA and stuff. It can be anything that draws suspicion toward the perp- like in Joran’s case, lying all the time after being the last one known to have been with Natalee before she never was seen again. It can also be lack of an alibi during times of opportunity in cases where the actual time of the crime cannot be determined. So I was thinking, could we name 30 forms of evidence in this case?

      I know any evidence is not worth much unless it can be proven that a crime was committed. In this case of course that would mean they’d need a body, or NOT considering Jan VDS said he saw the evidence that Natalee was dead. So being as how he SAW that, then technically a crime has at the very least ‘possibly’ been committed to where evidence could be useful to point fingers at the guilty party(ies).

      So what are the evidences that lead to what happened to Natalee? Where are the evidences that indicate why she died?

      I can’t think of any evidences that point to Natalee having become deceased at her own hand, by accident or on purpose. And we can rule out running away since Jan VDS said he knows she’s dead. But here are a few I can think of that lead to Joran VDS being responsible for Natalee being deceased….

      1. He lied right from the start TO the cops as well as to others and he asked his friends to uphold his lies for him.
      2. He was the last one she was with.
      3. Paulus’s fearful questioning of Joran’s friends.
      4. Paulus getting angry at Natalee’s family the first night when he should have clearly understood their anxiety and been sympathetic towards them instead of shutting them out because they were upset and hurt his ‘widdle feewings’.
      5. Joran has no alibi for several hours that night since his daddyo didn’t know he was out and about at all that night until late the NEXT night when Natalee’s family showed up. I mean, he could have gone back out again since his online time did stop and he has no witnesses to say he went to bed and stayed there. IF he did leave Natalee somewhere alive there is nothing to prove he didn’t go back out and do something to her.

      Anyone else think of any more? Because Jan VDS said Natalee was dead. He knows therefore it is possible someone caused her demise. Are there any evidences that point toward someone other than Joran? Any more suspicious behaviors that an innocent would not have need for?

      I guess my point in pondering this is that perhaps all the doors to the crime have not been closed. I mean, if there are on average 30 clues to every case then something might still be out there that would force justice to the table…something it’s too late to cover up or make up a new lie about, you know? Maybe something of evideniary value that has been overlooked. I mean, come on! Jan VDS said he knows Natalee is dead! He says he can’t do ‘this’ to his best friend’s son. His best friend says he’d do anything to protect his son. Son then, is apparently the one who caused Natalee to become dead, so where is that loophole…that one key thing that has not been said yet that would close the door on Joran and this entire coverup? It’s out there because there IS NO perfect crime!

    60. dave on July 3rd, 2007 10:47 am

      disgustedmom,

      This is all well and good but you are assuming Aruba will actually take any of what you say and use it to bring the perps to justice. We can lay out all evidence and proof but if Aruba has not acted on anything up till now I believe it’s all moot. All we can do is be pissed and boycott them but thats it. What else can we do? I have envisioned in my mind if this was my daughter I would have gone “Rambo” on all involved long ago. At this point I’m not sure if I could contain myself if ever coming face to face with any of those scumbags. This whole ordeal just turns my stomach. The Aruban scum have no plans to bring justice for Natalee.

    61. disgustedmom on July 3rd, 2007 11:26 am

      Dave, you are surely right….the Aruban scum have no plans to bring justice for Natalee. I just can’t help being an eternal optimist that somehow, someway, someday something or someone will upset their plans.

      I can’t imagine living with the pain of losing a child, but to not even have the remains to bury makes it worse! It sickens me to know such people exist who could let this happen as if it doesn’t even eat at them one bit! They just don’t even give a crap and that makes any cold callous cruel or vicious abuse of others more possible by these people every day. Natalee cannot possibly be the only one whose life these people have ruined while on vacation! They are too good at it for her to be the first one. They are entirely too organized. They make me sick and so do all commercials for Aruba!

    62. rider on July 3rd, 2007 1:33 pm

      it business as usual for Aruba.

    63. 10061906 on July 3rd, 2007 2:20 pm

      Brie 44: That is were my thinking has taken me: To San Nicolas
      I was an advocate of everything happening at the Van der Sloots; but the more I read and more maps I get; my direction has turned to the southeast end of the island.
      Whatever bad happened, happened down or around San Nicolas.
      Rene was from San Nicolas, worked at The Industrial Incinerator and was found murdered in Sabana Basora.
      Robert Wayne Benson worked in Cura Cabie; only a few blocks away from Lorenzo’s.
      Mr. Benson was buried in the same cemetery as Rene.
      I have to feed the messengers could be NAPA part Store driver’s delivering parts to his shop where he worked.
      The KIA is in San Nicolas. Prostitution is legal in San Nicolas. In San Nicolas there is another funeral home Ad Patres on Renselaer Straat; a block or so away from the police station off of RT 1A and only a few blocks away from a local church on the other side called Rte 1B. Two banks with outside ATMs on Zeppenfeld Straat are only a few blocks from the funeral home. Jan Van der Straaten worked out of the KIA.
      Let’s try a different scenario.
      Deepak uses his car because it resembles a taxi cab. If he puts a taxi globe on the dash it could be easily mistaken for one. They make one stop to call ahead that they have the female tourist. Guido’s Nissan with Geoff and Freddy; follow Deepak to Rave’ house.
      Joran is a loose cannon and the drug dealers would like to off him; but they can’t because of Paulus and Van der Straaten. So the drug dealers set him up to shut him up. Once inside Joran has an altercation and Deepak, Satish and Joran are forced out. On the way back to Hooiberg, Deepak drops off Joran at the McDonalds in Santa Cruz. Paulus gets a call to pick up his son at the Santa Cruz McDonalds and also where to find Natalee. Paulus calls his buddy Van der Straaten and they meet in San Nicolas police station and go to the medical center where Natalee has been taken. They can’t do anything for Natalee but they decide to get rid of her body. “I know she is dead because I have seen the evidence”. Quote Jan VDS.
      Van der Straaten calls the Ad Patres funeral home and they get in touch with Rene. Meanwhile; Paulus goes to the ATM for hush money.
      Remember the VCB shirt (Geoff and Michael Dompig both worked for it but the police could not get along with them), the sport sun glasses, the foam with the teeth marks and the Lysol bottle (which probably contained cleaning fluid) were found in the colony section of San Nicolas; or what is called Lagoville near Weg Fontein. The bloody mattress was found near Grapefield Beach right outside and north of San Nicolas.
      Rumors were flying initially that Natalee’s clothes were found at Lorenzo’s.
      What else is in San Nicolas? The Colorado lighthouse, the Incinerator, the International School and the pet cemetery are there; just to mention a few.

    64. Carpe Noctem on July 3rd, 2007 3:12 pm

      Natalee’s family should hire some undercover CIA agents to kidnap Joran and use military tactics of torture to get him to tell what he did to Natalee.

      Comment by ScottK | July 3, 2007, 8:22 am

      ….

      I see where you comin’ from, Scott. …BUT Natalee’s family

      probably doesn’t have to bother now…

      It’s gone too far! Everybody has seen what raping/murdering
      pigs Joran Van der sloot and his awful Bubonic Plague
      of a mother and father are!

      People in multiple countries have seen that not only did he target, rape, and kill Natalee Holloway…. but he used his many media interviews & book deal these days
      to call her a b*tch, talk TISH about her and her family … and he says that left her on the beach unconcious TO DISRESPECT HER.
      Knocking her down relentlessly over and over again, until
      finally she NEVER GOT BACK UP.

      (Joran’s Book – Joran’s Words – Not Mine)

      There are too many free agents that want to assassinate Joran

      for FREE, as a COMMUNITY PUBLIC SERVICE of sorts. It’s kind of

      like stopping a LEVEL 1 disease in its’ tracks before it

      spreads and infects an entire population.

      I don’t think killing Joran Van der sloot would be conidered a

      crime. (imo)

      It is more like “Philanthropy” or

      maybe a “Random Act of Kindness.” If I was Joran, I’d be living

      every day like it was my last one Earth. …but then again,

      ONE SECOND THOUGHT, maybe not…

      … living like that is what got that little serial lying

      murderous desecated t-ball into trouble in the first place,

      huh? -j4n

    65. elisabeth on July 3rd, 2007 3:24 pm

      the “Amigoe” paper of the Antilles has an interview with Dompig. He is reported to blame the FBI, for the initial failures in his investigation. He accuses them of interfering, threats, and sabotage….

    66. Sharon Chicago on July 3rd, 2007 3:43 pm

      I am glad that the mediums “evidence show” was on over and over again last weekend with the Natalee Holloway case…it paints Joran and 2Ks and Paulus as the killers.

      This cannot be good PR for them. Their names are not mentioned but the reference is them the guilty ones.

    67. disgustedmom on July 3rd, 2007 4:16 pm

      #65….Dompig has nerve! The next thing you know we’ll be finding out he’s part of the trend to blame America for everything that anyone doesn’t like and perhaps even supporting Al Quaeda or one of those America hating terrorist groups.

    68. Brie on July 3rd, 2007 5:24 pm

      #55…Ditto Richard…well, Alverto Levy ownes C&C’s and Rafael Levy resides in Miami,Fla. It’s a free place to stay while you conduct business. Yeah!

    69. Brie on July 3rd, 2007 5:28 pm

      #57…I’ll see if I can find it for you…

    70. Brie on July 3rd, 2007 5:58 pm

      What…Dompig accuses the FBI for initial failures. Dompig is the initial failure! Where in the world does he come up with that crap. If it wasn’t for the FBI, Beth, Dave and Jug we wouldn’t of known anything in the beginning. The case could of been solved if those Aruban pigs hadn’t of interfered. They were the obstruction of justice. Dompig really needs to explain that one to the FBI. Ring…Ring…is this the Dom…Pig that accuses the FBI for the initial failures in Natalee,s case…I believe they need to re-visit and expose your ever loving ass. Dompig doesn’t squat when it comes to handling an investigation…but does well with corruption. Pigs all like to waddle in the mud!!!

    71. Brie on July 3rd, 2007 6:05 pm

      ARUBA IS A SINK HOLE!!!

      YOUR A BUNCH OF PISS-ANTS CRAWLING UNDER THE AMERICAN FOOT!!! **************************SQUISH!*****************************

    72. yoyo muffintop on July 3rd, 2007 6:09 pm

      #59 – your #2 is wrong. #3 – Huh?. #4 – Huh?

      Long way to go to 30.
      But you are looking for something overlooked. How about the female american that was attacked(thought she was going to be raped and killed) one week prior on the same beach(mediums say it was the beach) Joran says he dropped her off at. Description shockingly similar to a friend of Steve Croes.

      __________________
      SM: “Description shockingly similar to a friend of Steve Croes”. I actually agree with you that the sketch did look like Steve’s friend Jeremy. So why is Jeremy still hanging out in the bars in Aruba? (klaasend)

    73. 10061906 on July 3rd, 2007 6:30 pm

      Disgustedmom:
      How about Judy who went to Aruba a month before MBHS students and had her picture taken outside of C and C’s with Joran and others. Would have liked to have had her comments before she took her album of webshot community. The other males have never been identified nor have shown up in any other photos.
      But who else beside Joran? Try Geoff van Cromvoirt who humped and fondled Natalee at C and C’s on successive nights. She pushed him away, he slapped her.
      Did she threaten to report him to the police? He was fired from his own father’s company VCB,(read 63) and became a beach bum before going back to The netherworld after he was arrested. Maybe to play pocketpool with Guido and Joran.

    74. jon on July 3rd, 2007 10:35 pm

      frankly i don’t care where natalee is. there are plenty of other missing people. enough is enough unless some of u would like to spend the rest of your life worrying about natelee instead of mom and dad, grandma and grandpa, aunts, uncles and your cousins.
      enough already

    75. mayan_moons on July 3rd, 2007 11:26 pm

      First of all jonboy we don’t care what you think ok and who do you think you are proclaiming “enough is enough”. You are not in charge here, Aruba better open their ears and their eyes coz…..

      IT’S NOT OVER TIL WE SAY IT’S OVER!

      GET USED TO TO IT!

    76. sparrow on July 3rd, 2007 11:47 pm

      good-night jonboy. you jerk-off

    77. dennisintn on July 4th, 2007 5:22 am

      jonboy must be kin to the businessman who told greta at the dump, where dave was digging through the rotting garbage for his daughter’s body, that beth just needed to go home, shut up and get over it. aruba is such a caring place, i’m thinking about moving there.
      dennisintn

    78. Carpe Noctem on July 4th, 2007 11:11 am

      I am glad that the mediums “evidence show” was on over and over again last weekend with the Natalee Holloway case…it paints Joran and 2Ks and Paulus as the killers.

      Exactly Sharon.

      THE MURDERERS THAT THEY ARE,

      and the world knows it. -j4n

    79. Carpe Noctem on July 4th, 2007 11:21 am

      For anyone who wants to

      see the HE show

      Labeled HE 1 – 6

      http://tinyurl.com/334gss

      BOYCOTT ARUBA INTO THE DIRT

      -Justice 4 Natalee

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    82. Jana on July 13th, 2007 11:38 am

      Joran has lied from the very start. He has changed his story so many times I don’t think he even knows what the truth is. I sincerely hope this haunts him until the day he dies. At least he won’t be studying in the USA as he wished – I hope he is freezing his arrogant ass of in Holland. I don’t see how he can lead a normal life or why he should – nothing good will come of him.

    83. miriam on July 15th, 2007 11:11 am

      Isn’t stalking a crime im New Orleans?
      For you it’s all about big money and power, isn’t it?
      Specifically AMERICAN big money, and power, isn’t it?
      Do you really know who is behind all of this?
      Didn’t it all started whith the announcement of another AMERICAN hotel project in Aruba?
      Do you know why some specific people want to manipulate the Arubans into hating the American people?
      Do you know why some specific people were drinking and toasting champagne with the closing of the Lago Refinery in Aruba?
      You don’t know the real and complete story, don’t you?
      What a shame, what a pity.
      It’s just so pathetic.
      Poor, poor America.

    84. Ras on February 24th, 2008 6:56 am

      Anita;You should have had an abortion

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