In Aruba They Strike and Protest for Higher Wages but not Justice for Natalee

 

So Arubans do know how to protest against the establishment to get their demands. The only problem is their protests always seem to be for money rather than what is morally right.

The unions (SDA) have not received anything yet from the government this morning at 10:00, which was what they have demanded in Friday’s ultimatum.  The government was still deliberating about the salary demands of the civil servants, when this paper went to press. 

Does one think for one moment that the Aruban people would protest against their government officials for “JUSTICE” in the Natalee Holloway case? Far be it from any one to be for a cause or a protest that does not serve them financially. Or is always about the money in Aruba? In reality, if they did protest for justice in the case of missing teen, Natalee Holloway, Aruba would in the end benefit financially as their tourism would actually come back following said justice.

Aruba … take a hint from some selfless people who care and protest:

Why doesn’t Aruba … protest for JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!!!

No proposal from the government yet  (Amigoe: 3/10/2008)

ORANJESTAD – The unions (SDA) have not received anything yet from the government this morning at 10:00, which was what they have demanded in Friday’s ultimatum.  The government was still deliberating about the salary demands of the civil servants, when this paper went to press. 

Chances are that the unions will tell their members to go on strike.  The different unions like Simar, Seppa, FTA, SPA, and OPPA had a meeting at 11:30 today, because they didn’t receive a reaction from the government.  Whether the government will stick to her viewpoint to give each civil servant an annual allowance of 950 florins to compensate for the increased cost of living is not known yet.  Premier Nelson Oduber was very clear last week: ‘the government does not have money for indexation’.

Bloke Sindical has already indicated that she will take the government to court. 

Simar had called on her members to go on strike today, but decided to first wait for the proposal of the government.  They met around 17:00 to determine whether to continue with their action or not.  Several teachers said that after their action of last Friday, they are intimidated by the school principles.  Simar condemned this behavior of the principles, indicating that the principles forget that they are also civil servants.  Simar incites her members not to feel intimidated. 



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  • Comments

    63 Responses to “In Aruba They Strike and Protest for Higher Wages but not Justice for Natalee”

    1. Carpe Noctem on March 12th, 2008 12:15 pm

      Unbelievable, man. I betcha two or more of ‘em couldn’t get together and execute one measly decision on producing some tourism flyers!

      They are walloping f-tardos,
      the whole lot of them!

      They are about as mentally keen as Joran &
      his dang LOSER flea bag of a mother doing a crossword puzzle together.

      That would be a real hoot
      for roughly 3 minutes.

      Sporter, can you go run and get mummy some
      White Out, mmmmmkay??? Next!

    2. misskatie on March 12th, 2008 12:27 pm

      what a bunch of idiots.. they seem to have their priorities all screwed i’d say

    3. Richard on March 12th, 2008 1:37 pm

      Aruba, the answer is very simple … pay your government workers what they’re worth. That pertains in particular to your police.

      That ought to save you quite a lot of cash that you don’t have … indeed, maybe it will produce a net profit, if you take the view (as we do) that they are worth less than nothing.

      An alternative, of course, is to try to provide justice in the Natalee Holloway case. AND to show your good faith by raising money for, and cooperating with, the Persistence and its crew.

      Don’t like the idea? Go starve, then. And good riddance.

    4. JusticeforNatalee on March 12th, 2008 2:45 pm

      Could you please add Miami to the protest list.
      Thanks.
      ________________________
      SM: Wow, I figured out how to do it ;) Thanks for noticing that! (klaasend)

    5. WOLF HUNTERS on March 12th, 2008 4:06 pm

      tourism is in the TANK

      dont beleive it when people say tourism is going well.. they WANT you to beleive that.
      ITS A LOAD OF GARBAGE

      as usual with aruba up is down, black is white.
      cold is hot, confessions mean nothing,

      keep boycotting,

      i heard about a guy that was going to the airport and wearing aruba t -shirts that say aruba sucks on it.. :) :)

      thats the way – freedom of speech baby !!

    6. Carpe Noctem on March 12th, 2008 5:55 pm
    7. OFIR on March 12th, 2008 6:06 pm

      SO ARUBA IS NOW BANKING ON THE TOURISTS FROM THE UK,
      http://travelvideo.tv/news/more.php?id=13877_0_1_0_M

    8. murph on March 12th, 2008 6:49 pm

      Aruba does not care and hope to ride this out. I do not think they thought it would still be in the news in 2008 but maybe a few months at best. WRONG!! They just do not get it!

    9. Bob on March 12th, 2008 8:37 pm

      LOL…….it gets better with every passing day. Aruba claims they got about 2,000 more British to visit in 2007. That is obvious baloney. But what the Sand Pigs DON’T report is that 13,783 LESS AMERICANS ( you know, the ones with big $$$$ ) visited. That was during 2007. That was before the Januray-February 2008 confessions by JORAN.

      LOL…..and how will 2008′s drop be reported? “Err, cough, cough…..a mild downturn in visitors were noted in the first quarter….cough, cough….as our Travel Show sign-up business appears to have dried up.”

      Yes indeed, cough, cough…….Aruba has no credibility in the World community, but the do halve empty rooms and sparse beaches.

    10. Bob on March 12th, 2008 8:50 pm

      “Preliminary figures released by the Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) reveal that UK arrivals have increased by an impressive 20.5 per cent during 2007 compared with 2006. Growth out of the UK is leading all of the established European markets.

      In 2007, 9,045 UK nationals visited Aruba compared with 7,506 in 2006. The total increase from all markets is 8.56 percent over 2006 figures, with 753,816 arrivals breaking the 2005 existing record of 732,514.”

      The above is what ATA published…..do yah believe in the tooth fairy or miracles? LOL…..to anyone with an active micro brain cell, how does that match with the Head Sand Pig (Oduber) wailing recently how the American “Natalee business” has cost Aruba 10′s of $ millions?

      I guess they use different copy writers? The clowns in the ATA can’t add & report simple numbers? Heaven forbid they’ve lied to their crack prime Minister? Do you think Rob Smith’s people are bullcrapping and publishing travel magazine fluff or just outright lies?

      Desparate people, do desparate things, in deparate times. No matter, people are too smart these days.

      BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT

    11. kayjay on March 12th, 2008 9:44 pm

      My UK relatives sure as hell don’t go to that sandbox..they head to Spain, Portugal, Italy, Cyprus, Malta, Majorca….I have looked at the ads in the travel shop windows in UK each time I go over..every six months or so, and have never seen an ad for Aruba.

    12. WOLF HUNTERS on March 12th, 2008 9:52 pm

      whats the difference between paulus and spitzer?

      spitzer doesnt kill the people

    13. waterboy (Jerry) on March 12th, 2008 10:16 pm

      Sorry I have not posted in awhile. I’ll get back on as soon as I can.

      Jerry

    14. Ray on March 12th, 2008 10:38 pm

      #3 Richard
      You hit the nail on the head, the Aruban POLICE are worth less than nothing. They should pay the Aruban Govt for the privilege of imitating a cop.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL NATALEE GETS JUSTICE.

    15. Ray on March 12th, 2008 10:53 pm

      I would call the ARUBAN POLICE the KEYSTONE COPS, bet that would be an INSULT to the KEYSTONE COPS.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL NATALEE GETS JUSTICE.

    16. Ray on March 12th, 2008 11:01 pm

      Any COP that covers up for a CRIMINAL is worth less than NOTHING.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL NATALEE GETS JUSTICE.

    17. buster on March 12th, 2008 11:12 pm

      # 9 & 10 bob for president !!!

    18. brie on March 13th, 2008 12:04 am

      Yep….one safe island…Aruba just keeps digging themselves into a deeper hole…5 different unions involved…..no police, no teachers, etc. but most importantly no tourists. Aruba is going to end of being one of the poorest islands in the Caribbean.

      So I guess that will mean the kids won’t be going to school. Amigoe said the principals are threatening the teachers. Sure doesn’t sound like one happy island.

    19. brie on March 13th, 2008 12:37 am

      Tuesday, 2000 to 3000 civil servants gathered in front of the Tax-Collection office at 8:AM, police officers, teachers, custom personnel, retired civil servants and employees of government institutions.

      The unions decided to go on strike after the government did not come up with a new proposal. The protesting unions are refusing to talk with the council of ministers. They will continue until the government comes up with a serious counterproposal.

      So, the protesters are out there, why not for Natalee, these 2000 to 3000 people could of made a difference….a big difference, they don’t seem to be afraid to protest now…that’s just garbage!!!!

    20. Dolf on March 13th, 2008 2:09 am

      well this effects only the normal Aruban ppl.
      the ones we are after don’t make their money in the tourists business anyway.

      money laundering & drug trafficking

      in the end they will be knocking on our door for money anyway :(

    21. walrus on March 13th, 2008 4:20 am

      #9 The UK tourists have “big $$$” also. Fortunately, the British have their own islands in the Caribbean, so they likely tend to not frequent Aruba as much. For Americans who want to go to the Caribbean and still have a semblance of the protection of US law, go to the US Virgin Islands!

    22. misskatie on March 13th, 2008 9:10 am

      the best thing that could happen to that island
      is for a major hurricane to .. wipe all their precious hotels and tourism money makers out..

    23. Dolf on March 13th, 2008 9:42 am

      misskatie, I think that the women and children who would die would be very thankfull towards you.

      think before you say something like this

      you just put a deathwish on 20.000 ppl

    24. kaye on March 13th, 2008 10:20 am

      pictures are worth a thousand words……
      http://www.bucuticam.com/

      webcam…..maybe 6 people on the beach this morning…..

    25. misskatie on March 13th, 2008 12:32 pm

      dolf
      I apologize
      I guess I wasnt thinking of the innocent folks there
      Like the lady That I am
      I am owning up to my mistake
      I stuck my foot in my mouth
      again sorry
      not my intent
      just annoys me the way aruba’ and their laws are and the way they treated the holloways and natalees case..
      .. I guess its not fair to the innocent women , men and innocent children that reside on that island.
      I should think before I speak
      SHAME ON ME
      THINK BEFORE I SPEAK

    26. misskatie on March 13th, 2008 12:33 pm

      HITTING M,Y HAND
      SHAME ON ME

    27. Richard on March 13th, 2008 12:42 pm

      Actually, misskatie, you didn’t wish harm to any people on Aruba.

      Here’s what you said: “a major hurricane to .. wipe all their precious hotels and tourism money makers out”

      That refers to the hotels, casinos, brothels, and other “attractions” of Aruba, as I understand it.

    28. SUPER DAVE on March 13th, 2008 12:58 pm

      anyone can see that a life means nothing on aruba. drugs and crime seem to be the important issue there.

    29. misskatie on March 13th, 2008 4:36 pm

      richard
      thanks so much
      I thought I had said something terrible by the way dolf put it
      I feel so much better
      thanks richard

    30. Bob on March 13th, 2008 5:08 pm

      It won’t be long until Oduber and his band of Merry Miscreants have signed their own fate. Just watch the political fallout:

      No local workers for the populace
      No American tourists to fund their economy
      No business for hotels, restaurants, local workers
      No revenues & profits for Aruban corporations
      No respect from the World Community for corruption

      Losing has become an expected way of life for Aruban Politicos. And it will get worse.

    31. buster on March 13th, 2008 5:49 pm

      aruba tried to wipe Natalee out but Natalee ended up TAKING OUT aruba !!! Natalee is reaking havoc from beyond the grave !!! Her energy is being channeled through a bunch of Monkeys !!! Aruba (oops) aruba (never spell aruba with capitol again) is dieing a slow humanly death,Humanly Because Natalee was a Saint !!!

    32. rob kay on March 13th, 2008 7:07 pm

      FROM TODAY’S TRAVEL NEWS

      Record number of visitors in 2007 for Aruba

      Mar 12, 08 | 10:25 am

      The spotlight for the first time in the last few years is being diverted from the unfortunate Natalee Holloway case to Aruba’s tourism industry.
      Amid the controversy, record numbers of British sun seekers are discovering the sun drenched Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba, it was revealed yesterday.
      Preliminary figures released by the Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) reveal that UK arrivals have increased by an impressive 20.5 per cent during 2007 compared with 2006. Growth out of the UK is leading all of the established European markets.

      In 2007, 9,045 UK nationals visited Aruba compared with 7,506 in 2006. The total increase from all markets is 8.56 percent over 2006 figures, with 753,816 arrivals breaking the 2005 existing record of 732,514.

      “We are really excited by these preliminary figures for 2007 which reveal that consumer and trade awareness of Aruba continues to grow in the UK,” ATA’s UK representation manager Joanna Walding said.

      “This year we will focus our marketing energies on a consumer print advertising campaign scheduled from May to October, a London taxi promotion and continue to support our key UK tour operator partners including First Choice, Kuoni, Thomas Cook Signature and Thomson Worldwid e to build on 2007’s great success.

      “We are looking forward to another positive year, with indications from our tour operators that bookings are already up for 2008.”

      Aruba lies just 15 miles off the coast of South America and is a melting pot of South American and Dutch influences. With no rainy season, Aruba is bathed in sunshine year-round with an average temperature of 28° C each day. Twenty-five UK tour operators now feature Aruba.

    33. Stephanie G.D. Croes on March 13th, 2008 8:33 pm

      It is funny how ungrateful people can be. And how people tend to forget all that was done in the holloway case. It has cost the aruban government millions when itz governant and citizens decided to search for a lost teenager. It took us years now of taking insolent words of a country whose citizens are proud to kill every day. How many of these cases are there in your country? If your country has the highest moral values and priorities as you tend to claim or pretend whenver I read your comments about our citizens and our priorities and legalsystem, how you have rapes per seconds, genocides in school, universities on the streets? How come you applaud genocides in countries you don`t even know by heart, eyes and soul. How you don`t care to protect what was created for us to live to the fullest by just for example join a cause to protect nature (KYOTO) while ur country is the one that destroys it most. How come you people spill your anger on a case on a family that has a son that made a mistake, while there are thousands of people living around you with far more illnesses in their thinking? It is true whatever happened to natalee was cruel, unfair and I am not trying to justify it. If Aruba was so unfair and we are all concerned abour money, how come we then gave up money in order to find the girl, comfort her mother and even put ransom ourselves from our pockets to find the girl? Would the USA or you do that for me if It happened to me in your country? These things happen all the time and we did our best. And perhaps our legalsystem doesn`t suit this case in a positive way. But let`s be honest and keep our integrity. Legalsystems in other countries lets say Hiroshima, Iraq among others didnt suit their people either when and while you were killing in their homes far more teenagers, man women and children. Instead of trying to stop that type injustice, you applaud it, and even think you have a right of being in their homes killing human being you haven`t even created…
      If we are protesting for higher wages, it is our right to do so and that is internationally set up by international human rights, which by the way was cooperatively written by your country also. I bet you would do the same if you didn`t have the means to put food on your table. So let`s say it is true our priority is to eat everyday. My question is why is that so bad to protest to get the means to buy food while for example in your country they kill to get the means to do so. You have the guts to critize our priorities, while the priorities in your country are to kill in order to lead spending millions on ammunition instead of doing something right with those millions for third world countries like building schools and provide food on their tables. So right perhaps amercia plans to build a school and provide a bit of rice them in order to porttray cartoonish heroic actions, but how much is their postive contributing really compared to the tons of millions spent on the negative. So I recommend this, stop attacking us and our way of living and seek to elevate the moral values in your country before judging ours like you are the creator yourself. Start working and spending your energy on the positive, on the cause. Lets elevate the cause among us and fight for it…and just in case you don`t know…. the cause is life..

    34. Carpe Noctem on March 13th, 2008 9:52 pm

      Stephanie…

      It is not just that Aruba doesn’t do anything about prosecuting rapists and cut throat murderers
      which is blatantly apparent when the world got to
      see “ARUBA’S FINEST” in action.

      > READ: INACTION

      RE: The injustices of the Holloway case.

      The horror that Aruba ALLOWED to be inflicted on
      Natalee Holloway and her family by the MURDERING RAPING VAN DER SLOOT FAMILY

      WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

      It all has been recorded, backed up, and YOU TUBED, endlessly.

      People all over the world are disgusted over ARUBA, and wouldn’t even so much as wiz on that toilet of an island anymore.

      Literally, I’d rather die than go!

      ———–

      Especially, when I read more and more stories about how little value Arubian people place even
      on the lives of poor defenseless children.

      Check out this story by that
      justice slaughtering lying
      POS prosecuting BUTCHER —

      ARUBA OM- HANS MOS

      —-

      AMIGOE 3.13.2008

      OM dismisses the case of
      the pre-schooler bit by dogs

      WILLEMSTAD – The Public Prosecutor (OM) has dismissed the investigation of the death of Jeremi Blanca, the five-year old pre-schooler that was killed by two pitbulls in May of last year. The owners of the dogs won’t be prosecuted. Immediately after the incident, the police confiscated the dogs and put them to sleep. The parents of the little boy were already informed in January of the results of the investigation and of the decision of the OM.

      The investigation concentrated on two crucial questions: How did the little boy get on the property across the street further down the Carawaraweg (Bottelier), and was that property secured enough so that the two pitbulls couldn’t be a danger. But despite months of investigation in the neighbourhood, the OM didn’t get any clear answer on both questions.

      The case actually remains a big mystery. No witnesses were found during the investigation and also the technical clues couldn’t give a decisive answer. “Negligence and carelessness of the owners could not be determined”, says press officer Ludmilla Vicento. The OM decided not to prosecute the owners, because it could not be determined whether the property was well secured, and the case can only be dismissed. “We didn’t solve the case”, said Vicento.

      Immediately after the incident, the authorities hastily implemented the law on keeping dangerous dogs. This law became effective for pitbulls and pitbull-like dogs at the beginning of this year. Owners of such dogs have till May to have their pet registered, chipped, and neutered or spayed. The idea is that this breed finally dies out. There are about 5000 of these animals on the island.

      Jeremi Blanca walked away from the house very early on that Sunday morning. Everybody in the house was still sleeping. His parents noticed around 08:00 that he was missing and immediately started looking for him in the neighbourhood. Around noon, the resident of the house (where the pitbulls were) found Jeremi’s body in the yard. Autopsy revealed that Jeremi must have been bit right after he left his house and that he probably could not have screamed for help. Because he had two pitbulls, the resident of the house had the fence reinforced. What made the little boy enter the yard with two pitbulls will forever remain a mystery.

      Seems like ARUBA’S OM keeps on running into
      a load of MYSTERIES. Perplexing…

      I hope Chavez bombs your island. It would be the one thing Hugo did, that I could see where he had
      a legitimate point!

      You people are AWFUL.

      ARUBA makes me want to vomit, daily! I’ll stop
      whomever will take the time to listen from going
      to that Caribbean Death Trap.

    35. Lotte Lenya on March 13th, 2008 10:03 pm

      “It has cost the aruban government millions when itz governant and citizens decided to search for a lost teenager”

      When it’s government and citizens DECIDED to search for a lost teenager? Call us Americans crazy but we EXPECT the government to search for one of our citizens if they’re missing in their country.

      “Would the USA or you do that for me if It happened to me in your country? ”

      Of course we would!!

      “while the priorities in your country are to kill in order to lead spending millions on ammunition instead of doing something right with those millions for third world countries like building schools and provide food on their tables. ”

      The United States gives more financial aid to countries around the world then any other country on this planet!

      “How come you people spill your anger on a case on a family that has a son that made a mistake, while there are thousands of people living around you with far more illnesses in their thinking? ”

      You call rape and murder a mistake? Are you serious??

    36. Carpe Noctem on March 13th, 2008 10:10 pm

      Nelsey never built a gateway to China.

      Spain never took over 70% of Aruba’s Tourism support.

      …and the U.K. will probably not fix
      Aruba’s tourism problem either!

      THEY HAVE INTERNET ACCESS. THEY HAVE SEEN VIA YOU TUBE, news sites & blogs, ARUBA WILL LET A GUEST’S CHILD BE MURDERED BY A LOCAL… AND STAND BY WITH ‘HANDS IN POCKETS’

      …VICIOUSLY SLANDER THE VICTIM AND FAMILY…

      AND DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT.

      There can be no excuses

      GOOD ENOUGH for that!

      GAME OVER

      -j4n

    37. Lotte Lenya on March 13th, 2008 10:37 pm

      “How come you people spill your anger on a case on a family that has a son that made a mistake…”

      As hard as it is to see rape and murder characterized as a mere mistake, Stephanie is actually acknowledging that joran van der sloot did in fact murder Natalie. So that is the general consensus in Aruba.

    38. SS on March 13th, 2008 10:40 pm

      #33 Stephanie G. D. Croes

      I don’t understand why the people of Crappy Island keep asking the same question – “Why are you mad at the people?” Stephanie, you have a corrupt government. Your ALE allowed their corruption and special interests to deny justice for an American citizen. Your ALE and their special friends know exactly what happened to Natalee Holloway and they know exactly where she is. This is a horrible coverup and the Americans will not accept it. Our country is not perfect and we do have problems, but this situation isn’t about us, it’s about your sandbar and the sandflies who refuse to do the right thing. The people of Crappy Island protest that they are innocent, but you are all looking the other way and you are allowing your corrupt ALE to make fools of you and infuriate us. You have the ability to put pressure on your ALE to resolve Natalee’s disappearance, but you haven’t done it. Until you do, we will boycott Aruba. If you aren’t trying to fix your problem, then you are part of your problem. We will not spend our tourist dollars on your sandbar until it is safe for American citizens. You could probably earn a lot more then a simple salary increase by threatening to sing about the Holloway murder. There are lots of special and priviledged sandflies who will pay big money to keep the truth from being exposed.

    39. Ray on March 13th, 2008 10:41 pm

      #33 Stephanie
      The only thing that the aruban people did for the HOLLOWAY family was run them from one end of the island to the other end with FALSE TIPS,when they knew that NATALEE was dead and in the ocean. Dont insult and make me sick with TALES of ARUBAN KINDNESS.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL HUGO TAKES IT.

    40. Dolf on March 14th, 2008 2:06 am

      Richard, what do you think when a hurricane powerfull enough to destroy the hotels and casino’s hits the caribian

      it only goes after the buildings?

      and do you think only Aruba would get hit.

      misskatie: I understand what you ment to say, I only get annoyed with this.

      if you all claim that miss. Holloway was so good, sweet and innocent (claim, cause nobody here prob. knew her personally) do you think she would wish for a big disaster claiming hurnders of lives in her name?

      and this has nothing to do with the way how the Aruban cops and justice “handled” the case or the obvious corruption

    41. stephanie g.d. croes on March 14th, 2008 7:12 am

      Dear carpe noctum,

      In case u have never had geography classes or so I would just want to bring to your senses that the case of the pitbull and the child didnt happen on ARUBA indeed it happened in Curacao. Would you like me to compare the USA with CANADA, CUBA and so !!!!!!!!????????

    42. kaye on March 14th, 2008 7:40 am

      don’t forget posters…….stephanie is one of them. There were several Croes involved from day one.
      stephanie, take your whining and moranic babbling to your ALE. if it were not for their blatant coverup of the crimes committed by an aruban judge, van der scum, his son, Moron and friends, 2kalpoos, aruba would not be the shameful disgrace that it is now in the eyes of the whole world. the world knows the truth about aruba and what a bottom feeding devil island it is. the natural beauty of aruba does not hide the evil that lurks beyond.

    43. 10061906 on March 14th, 2008 7:40 am

      33 That wouldn’t be Loco Stef jumping in the fray now would it?
      If so what happened that night? Joran would have told you. You were his girl friend back in May 2005 weren’t you?

    44. Sandy on March 14th, 2008 7:45 am

      Today, 3/14, on Live with Regis & Kelly, the show gave away a free trip for a week at the Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino hotel in ARUBA with transportation provided by Delta airlines. The contestant won playing a trivia game, Regis spun the game wheel and it landed on the trip. Then an announcer gave a minute overview of the trip, showing the island, the hotel, “beautiful beaches” “an Aruban playground for all generations” … Talk about positive, free advertising on *national* tv.

      Where’s the Justice4Natalie?

    45. dave on March 14th, 2008 7:55 am

      Stephanie G.D. Croes,

      You don’t have a clue. Pull your head out of your backside and take a breath of fresh air then maybe you can think straight. It’s because of people like you and your government that we boycott Aruba. Blame the perps instead of the people here dedicated to justice.

    46. JusticeforNatalee on March 14th, 2008 8:08 am

      “How many of these cases are there in your country?”
      #33 Steaphanie

      Well, actually, Stephanie, there are ZERO cases of an Aruban tourist being drugged, raped, and killed while American authorities trash the victim, corrupt the case, and let the perps go free.

      Please, save your breath. We don’t want to hear about the money and time spent. How much money and time were spent on diversions or trashing Natalee and her family?

      Please go complain to the perps and officials since you are upset about the boycott.

      We will stand up for justice and no one will stop us.

    47. JusticeforNatalee on March 14th, 2008 8:29 am

      Here’s another problem that Aruba has:

      Joran confessed yet Aruban authorities chose not to bring him in again. They even made excuses for the confession.

      So now there is further disappointment and disgust toward Aruba.

    48. JusticeforNatalee on March 14th, 2008 8:34 am

      P.S. #33

      American tourists are under NO obligation to support the Aruban economy. None, nada, zilch

    49. kaye on March 14th, 2008 8:34 am

      Ms. Croes…. i’ll add one l-o-n-g p.s. to my little 2 cents worth……i’ll tell you like i’ve told some before…..pray to god that you never have a beautiful precious daughter go missing in a foreign country. BUT if she did, get down on your weak knees and pray to god that the government of that foreign country would do EVERYTHING in their power, ethically,legally and honestly, to help find her or at least to solve her rape/disappearance/murder properly and honestly no matter if some of “their own” were involved they would prosecut them to the fullest extend of the law and bring justice for the family. (sorry i forgot aruba doesn’t have any laws protecting citizens from another country)You people make me sick with your whining and blubbering about all the $$ that WE have cost your poor country. Listen missy, you can thank all of your aruban law enforcement officials, the van der scum family, all the bigshot upper eichelon of aruba and any other pitiful excuse for a human being on that piece of crap island that was in any way involved in the rape/disappearance/murder of natalee and the sheer torture of the holloway/twiddy families and the hell they have been through for the past three years, for the loss of $$$$. I hope that aruba is swallowed up by the ocean. god bless the innocent aruban peoples who are suffering, the one’s that have no say so in anything and fear for thier lives and wellbeing.

    50. kaye on March 14th, 2008 8:46 am

      #44 sandy……if you go to the Live with regis and kelly website there is a place to “contact us”. there is a section to send comments about the boycott of aruba. sometimes i think these celebrities are too busy to notice things going on unless it is right in front of their eyes. EDUCATE them!! i’ve sent mine…….posters get busy.

    51. J O Cincy on March 14th, 2008 9:04 am

      #33 Stephanie, you stated – “How come you people spill your anger on a case on a family that has a son that made a mistake”

      Please help me understand what you are calling a mistake. I hope you share your thoughts.

    52. kayjay on March 14th, 2008 9:36 am

      Stepanie Croes
      Its because of the likes of YOU that your precious island is in the mess it is. Calling Natalee’s death a “mistake” shows you have no deceny, morals or respect for human life. Go whine somewhere else. I suggest you start at Hans Mos’ office door and tell him to arrest and prosecute that evil, excuse for a human being JVDS.
      (That’s if, of course, he can find a few non-corrupt judges somewhere in the Antilles..I suggest he omits Curacao). You people have big problems and the sooner you start to clean house over there the better. Until then expect no sympathy from us, and the boycott will continue.
      NO JUSTICE FOR NATALEE …. NO TOURISTS FOR ARUBA

    53. JusticeforNatalee on March 14th, 2008 9:41 am

      http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/regisandkelly/index.html

      Under “Help” there is a contact form. Very easy to complete.

    54. Richard on March 14th, 2008 9:50 am

      To Ms. Stephanie G.D. (does that stand for a certain epithet?) Croes:

      One thing that you say is correct; Arubans have the right to strike, at least as far as I know.

      Go ahead and strike. But if you are complaining about the deteriorating economy … remember, 80% of your economy comes from American tourism, or used to do so. I bet it’s a lot less now.

      As far as I’m concerned, you’ve dug your own grave. America owes you and your people NOTHING; you have broken the social contract of tourism by the cover-up in Natalee’s case.

      So live with the consequences of the actions of your government and law enforcement, or at least certain elements thereof. Just don’t whine to us, because we aren’t listening. The veil is off Aruba, its ugly face is now out there for all the world to see, and we aren’t interested in your problems.

      Hint: If you really want to improve your situation, try pressuring your government to give us answers in this case. You don’t want to bother? Take the consequences.

      By the way, this is a quote from you; do you know something that we don’t?

      “we then gave up money in order to find the girl, comfort her mother and even put RANSOM ourselves from our pockets to find the girl” (emphasis supplied).

      One thing more: it seems that you, like your government and law enforcement, suffer from memory deprivation. Her name is Natalee.

      Natalee Holloway.

      Get that?

    55. JusticeforNatalee on March 14th, 2008 10:05 am

      ”…you have broken the social contract of tourism by the
      cover-up in Natalee’s case.”

      Excellent point, Richard. And that’s the heart of the matter.

    56. Carpe Noctem on March 14th, 2008 1:02 pm

      OK, I was wrong about the pitbull story.

      …but not about wanting Chavez to bomb the dootie of you, that they should capture or kill the kalpoes & poppa and JORAN-STEIN Van der sloot, Aruba tourism will never comeback, Hans Mos couldn’t successfully prosecute Chuck Manson with a f-ing braille ‘HOW TO GUIDE’, and you people are gosh awful liars.

      I concede the point!

      Don’t even try to compare the USA, CANADA…
      you’re out of your league, girlfriend.

      The only thing you could compare ARUBA to is CUBA,
      and even Fidel & Raul outclass you!

      Enjoy your hand lotion,
      I hope you can eat it.

    57. Allan on March 14th, 2008 10:51 pm

      #33 in technical terms you are full of it!

      Were you one of the Beth protesters?

    58. SS on March 15th, 2008 10:06 am

      Stephanie,

      Your former boyfriend, Urine, did not make a mistake with Natalee Holloway. This might have been the way that he explained it to you, but it was not a mistake. Urine and his friends preyed on female tourists who came to Crappy Island. They set the female tourists up in a very dangerous game involving drugs in drinks and women being raped. Urine admitted that he had been involved in this scenerio at least 20 times prior to Natalee. Twenty attacks on unsuspecting women does not constitute a mistake. It was a premeditated pattern of assault – serial assault. Your sociopath boyfriend might have tried to con you and convince you that he was just a kid who made a mistake, but I hope that you don’t believe this. Urine and his friends planned their assault games in advance. They waited like hawks until the night before the female tourist was planning to leave Crappy Island, thus minimizing their chances for arrest. They were aware of the consequences of their actions. They bragged about their conquests after the assaults. Sweetheart, Urine and his friends did not make a mistake, they are sociopaths who took part in horrific premeditated assaults. If I were you, I wouldn’t be defending Urine and I certainly wouldn’t admit that I had ever been involved with him in any manner. If, after learning of the horrid details of Urine’s actions, you are still inclined to defend him, then sweetheart, you have a very serious problem, yourself.

    59. stephanie g.d. croes on March 15th, 2008 6:57 pm

      Dear SS and every other commenter on this site in this forum.

      First of all Urine or Joran or whatever u want to name IT, was never and will never be acquainted to me. I am NOT his former girlfriend, I don`t know her either. As for my name, there as about Stephanie Croes I know, so I am not the only one with that name,just as there are a lot of John Smith in your country. This is the reason I always use my initials also when I write my name.

      If u want to judge me because I am not a coward to use initials or pseudonyms in this forum instead of my real name go ahead. Who am I to judge you.

      As for my first comment, the second and this last one, my only purpose was to stand behind my point of view. After all the insults and insolent words I read on this site about my beautifull and lovely island I still am and will always be proud of myself as an Aruban and professional. I believe in assertiveness in order to have democracy. Unfortunately not many people can stand someone standing for their own point and having a different color out of the prism. But that is OK , for I am and was always moved by the Intelligent Quotient rather than by black melancholic ulcers.

      To the one(s) didn`t or couldn`t understand my message, I don`t blame u. I know the statistics very well, that is why I understand where u are coming from. The European education system is far higher than the American education system. This is why every year dozens of American universities and colleges come to shop around students. We are honored for that and all the scholarships we can get thanks to our high level of education.

      As for the ones, especially Carpe Noctum (whatever name that is)who don`t or can`t understand rhetorical questions, don`t worry I don`t blame the intelligent quotient for not having the ability to read and understand the complexion of sentences words and letters. By the way thank so muchhh for being so sweet to recommend me to eat my hand lotion. Very thoughtful of you to recommend something you must have enjoyed! Have u ever tried sushi or japanese cuisine I recommend u that ok?? And by the way I take the thing about you wanting chavez to bomb me or us as some genetically drifted or mutated genes of yours, that is why I don`t take it personal nor cultural from your side. For I know that there are millions of American citizens with a healthy mind. Here I also believe in the statistics; that the least of you have the drive to kill and applaud genocides.

      As for my crappy island as u name it. I am proud to live here, and always will be. It is thanks to this island and it`s people I can dare to scream, talk and be myself without having to hide behind a spring break in order to do what mommy doesn`t know or can`t know. I am free from mental slavery . It is thanks to MY island and it

    60. stephanie g.d. croes on March 15th, 2008 6:58 pm

      It is thanks to my island that

    61. stephanie g.d. croes on March 15th, 2008 7:20 pm

      It is thanks to my island and it`s education system I know to speak up to 5 languages since I am 9. Thanks to our hospitality and warmth I know and can serve people full of self confidence given by my creator without feeling inferior. For inferiority is driven by ignorance.

      As to Natalee, I hate what was done to her, not for the economic consequences, but because I am a woman. And we must be treated with respect. I strongly believe that every leaves a legacy behind, so let her be…

      I also hope just like u for justice. But unfortunately justice is mostly given up there, so u still have the biggest hope of all.

      Dare to live for the cause. And base urself upon facts rather than e bunch of words. For the highest level of hierarchy of the human being is it

    62. stephanie g.d. croes on March 15th, 2008 7:25 pm

      is Intelligence Quotient.

      And to the ones who still want to keep doing what they THINK insults me; send me a mail at steph_simply@hotmail.com. I love to learn about the different deviations of the human mind, cultural differences in modern age societies.

      Au revoir,

      Stephanie.

    63. always 1 on March 15th, 2008 7:43 pm

      whoo whee, carpe, let me help you get that knife out of your back…and get her!!!!!!!

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