RSSAruban Prime Minister In Defeat Still Does not Understand Freedom of the Press (Oduber loses to Diario)
Aruban PM Nelson Oduber loses his court case against Diario for “insultation and slurring on his integrity”. I know that there is a joke and at least the reference of an oxymoron within that statement. Aruban PM Oduber, you can thank your lucky stars you do not hold a political position in the US with the thin skinned reaction you have to how the media criticizes and scrutinizes you and your party. New-flash … in a democracy the Press is not supposed to agree with a political party and carry its water, that would be called propaganda. The Press is supposed to act as a watch-guard for the people.
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Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal. “I have lost enough time in this case already. It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted. We have actually been outlawed.”
Are you joking? At this point after PM Oduber made this comment, Oduber began to sing, “Don’t Cry for Me Argentina”. Oduber, your drama is astounding. You are a politician, people will always disagree with your position and question it. That is what is supposed to occur in a DEMOCRACY.
Amigoe, June 29, 2007: Oduber looses case against Diario
ORANJESTAD – In a lawsuit that Oduber had instituted against the morning paper Diario, of which the hearing was this morning, the judge ruled that he doesn’t think that Diario has insulted Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) in an article on the Namdar-case.
The premier demanded rectification as a result of an article that appeared in the paper on May 14th that stated that the premier ‘has declared himself as main suspect’ in the Namdar-case. Diario refused to rectify and the premier instituted the lawsuit due to insultation and slurring on his integrity. “I admit in Oduber’s favour that Diario does impudent assertions in the article about the involvement of the government and the government party in a bribery scandal, but those assertions are strongly put into perspective”, said the judge. According to him, it is about an analysis of the case and not a statement of the case.
Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal. “I have lost enough time in this case already. It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted. We have actually been outlawed.”
Posted June 29, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Amigoe, Aruba, Bizarre, Corruption, Diario, Judicial, Media, Politics | 41 comments |
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We have so many problems with our own politicians why are we concerned with Aruba. Having spent 31 years there I know that the government reacts slowly to anything. I think you should all cut them some slack and see this for what it is. This is a small island with a lot of related people and not the devil island most of you think it is. If you look at Diario on line and see the recreational side of Aruba, maybe you could appreciate how the people really are. It seems that the majority of this site see Aruba as some awful place. That is simply not true. The Arubans I know and love are dipicted on the social pages of Diario. This is a wonderful place for vacation and you should at least give them the benefit of the doubt. I have been reading what shows up on this site and sometimes I have to think that you are really sick and more demented then the people that you are accusing. If you have not seen the real Aruba I suggest that you do so before making the remarks that you think are politically correct. mary ann
I guess everyone has his or her own definition of reality.
Ask the Holloway Twitty family what the “real” Aruba is to them. Ask them what a wonderful place it is for a vacation.
Better yet, ask Natalee … if you can.
There’s a saying, “Handsome is as handsome does.” The reverse is also true.
In my eyes, the Aruban government has dug its own grave by the cover-up that began on May 30, 2005, if not before.
Aruba is a great place … to boycott. Can’t think of a better one to stay away from. That;s the message that some of us are putting forth in New Orleans at this moment.
Oduber concludes his petulant comments by saying that he has, in effect, become an outlaw.
Always did know that the old boy had something in that noggin of his. An outlaw, exactly. Couldn’t have put it better myself.
Nelson must have been reading King Lear: “A dog’s obeyed in office.” But maybe not so much anymore.
#1.
I always preferred Ginger.
#1 did you and Gilligan ever…………..???
Amigoe, June 29, 2007: Oduber looses case against Diario
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This is good news for the people of Aruba in regards to freedom of speech and … good news for Natalee Holloways family. If it were not for Jossy Mansur’s publication …
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DAVE HOLLOWAY
Dana Pretzer Show
September 8, 2006
HOLLOWAY: Jossy has been very helpful to try to find the truth, the fact he lives in Aruba and publishes a newspaper, they’re attacking him because he’s looking for– fighting for– the truth. That’s what a good journalist does–He’s going to go after the people, regardless, and try to find the truth
STEVE HOLLOWAY
Scared Monkey – FP Comments
April 6, 2007
Comment #20 … I think he is a good man looking for the truth. He will not let them push him around. This is his home and is probably sick of the corruption that happens every day on such a large scale on such a small island.
Comment by Steve Holloway | April 6, 2007, 1:02 pm
JUG TWITTY
Scared Monkey – FPComments
December 5, 2005
Comment #6 … THANK YOU JOSSY I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT BUT YOU HAVE BEEN THERE FOR US FROM THE BEGENNING AND THE PEOPLE OF ARUBA SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOU.
Comment by JUG TWITTY | December 5, 2006, 10:57 am
BETH TWITTY
‘Rita Cosby Live & Direct’
September 14, 2005
TWITTY: Well, you know, I’ll be forever grateful for Jossy Mansur, who is there. And he has been so instrumental. And he’s just a hero to all of us. And, you know, he’s my only hope on the island. And we’ll be forever grateful to him.
Since we have been paying attention since june of 2005 we now know that the Aruban Govt will protect Aruban Tourism Dollars at all costs.At the same time protecting the criminals who were involved because of conflict of interest and major corruption.Even if that means threatening Victims Famalies,Bribing Politicians,Organizing Protests against the Mother and organizing groups that sole purpose is to slander the victim and her family and misdirection of the truth. I could write a book about the awful events that took place after Natalee dissapeared. Everyone knows it was a dishonest investigation and coverup. When Beth Twitty spoke up against horrific events she was forced to issue a apology or they would stop investigating the case. Now that is truly sick and demented!
Natalee didn’t kill herself from cocaine,she didnt run away with a blue eyed dutch boy,she isnt partying in brazil and it wasnt a Insurance scam. No one is buying it!! Looks like the family is scared to speak out for a boycott as they dont want to burn down there bridges and they still hold out hope. No one wants to see a active and organized boycott. But it appears that is where we are headed as they still have not conducted a honest investigation or look into the obvious coverup.
Everyone know’s that there is lots of good Arubans unfortanately they are run by a Corrupt,Dirty Govt who protects Aruban Tourism at all costs. They must be too scared to speak up because no one saw the public outcry of a young girl who was most likely drugged,raped and murdered. We did see a Govt organized protest vs the Mother and American media though. Natalee and her family continue to be raked over the coals even after two years. They can only watch as suspects and there mothers write books,lie on american tv and sue for 800 million dollars.
It all comes down to the Dutch who appear to be making some kind of effort even though the search of the VDS home was two years late. It appears they are making a impact on the Drug Use and Trafficking which has reached epic porportions in Aruba. Now if they can just bust that wall of corruption and get justice for Natalee Aruban Tourism may have some hope. If you think people are gonna forget about how many times Aruban Officials have stuck it to Natalee and her Family…You are Dreaming!!
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#1, please do not tell me of a place that I know all too well.
Funny, you seem to be allowed more freedom of speech on this site than Oduber allows the press on Aruba. By the way, no free advertizing is allowed from ATA memebers.
1. This is a wonderful place for vacation and you should at least give them the benefit of the doubt.
Comment by Mary Ann | June 29, 2007, 7:53 pm
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Mary Ann … would these be your words if you perceived the Aruba investigation into the disappearance of your daughter as corrupt … if you perceived an official coverup to distance the main suspects … if you perceived personal/family/working relations within the investigation as conflicts of interest …
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Mary Ann … would these be your words if you perceived the people of Aruba as being unsympathic to a corrupt investigation that was denying your daughter justice … denying you and your husband a measure closure. Mary Ann … what would your words be if the Aruban people had no problem collectively protesting environmental issues … the choller issue … your anquished words when you referred to the main suspects who hindered your daughter’s investigation as criminals but … no demands regarding a just investigation for your precious dauther.
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Mary Ann … the words of your post was such a betrayal to one of your own.
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Dave Holloway
Aruba Truth
November 9, 2005
The Aruban people elected their officials to make decisions in the best interests of their people, and we have done the same. The Alabama governor made a decision on Natalee’s behalf, so I will support that position.
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Associated Press
November 8, 2005
(AP) Gov. Bob Riley called for a nationwide travel boycott of Aruba on Tuesday on behalf a missing Alabama teenager’s family, who accuse the island’s government of not fully cooperating with the investigation into her disappearance.
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Senator Steve French
Alabama News
November 8, 2005
It’s my hope this will cause the Aruban people to be more demanding that their officials conduct a thorough investigation.
Sounds like Mary Ann has spent toooo much time in the kitchen again baking her Coconut Pot Pies.
Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal. “I have lost enough time in this case already. It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted. We have actually been outlawed.”
It seems to us, all the govt. officials in Aruba can print anything they want about a tourist who was the victim of a horrendous crime on his island. They can make stuff up about her and her family, pay people to go out and lie about them. Let the criminals walk around on the streets. Let relatives and friends pretend to investigate each other. He wants Diaro prosecuted. Hey Oduber, what about Joran and his father in the casino gambling and drinking underage. How about the VIP pass Joran had to CnC when he was underage. How about drinking underage at CnC? How about gambling the next night in casinos underage? After all if you had enforced those laws, Joran would never have been around Natalee and her group that night. He is worried what the press says about the govt.? That is the least of his worries. I think Mary Ann has been sharing her pies with him too much. I wish the judge would have told Oduber he was sick of his case.
>>>>>It seems that the majority of this site see Aruba as some awful place. That is simply not true. The Arubans I know and love are dipicted on the social pages of Diario. This is a wonderful place for vacation and you should at least give them the benefit of the doubt.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
MaryAnn, do you really think I could rest and relax from a hectic world on a crappy little Island in the Caribbean where Natalee Holloway’s body lies, hidden from her family? Could I enjoy myself in a place where a loving father searched in a garbage dump for his daughter’s body while officials did everything they could to stop him? If so, you idea of a nice place to vacation is totally different than mine.
If I stepped foot on Aruba, my heart and mind would be on the terrible injustices suffered by Natalee and her family. I couldn’t possibly do anything but sit and weep for what her family has had to endure – let along imagining what Natalee might have had to endure when she was raped and murdered on Aruba.
11. I couldn’t possibly do anything but sit and weep for what her family has had to endure
Comment by katablog.com | June 29, 2007, 10:19 pm
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katablog … if your words do not touch MaryAnn’s heart … nothing will.
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Thank you
#1….What’s between your shoulders…it’s never been about the decent people of Aruba…many of us have been to Aruba and we have seen what it WAS like.
Put this somewhere in your post,Mary Anny……Oduber …referring to Natalee…”I am sick and tired of this case”..Natalee became missing in May 2005….dip- stick made this comment in January of 2006.
We are sick and tired and of you… Oduber! What are you going to do next, ban televison, Nelson Chavez Oduber.
Some people come on here and speak of Aruba as if nothing happened…what are you brainwashed?
Your post was a waste of our time and an insult to Natalee!!
What is, sick an demented, are the trolls that come here and post!
Too bad the Arubans you love #1 don’t have the guts to speak up against your corrupt law enforcement people. I’ll bet there are plenty of them that now exactly who did what to poor Natalee and could provide information to the Dutch authorities, unless of course they are indeed a “a lot of related people” who are so related they are retarded and don’t know right from wrong.
Aruba the sick island run by the lawless and dumb people.
Mary Ann you are in no other words but stupid or either have serious personal issues. Seek professional help! I am sorry for your sick demented mind and favoritism for Aruba that is undue. Natalee was raped and killed there but you don’t care. Then Aruba tries to cover up.
Who is sick?
Did you work for Mr. Pink while you were there?
Mary Ann, is drugging, raping and murdering tourist considered a recreation in Aruba?
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The REAL Aruba?
You mean the one behind the facade of one happy island?
The REAL ARUBA ?
The one that covered up Natalee’s death instead of
telling her parents the truth and returning Natalee’s body?
Why should tourists go to an island where their lives mean nothing but their money does?
Besides, Aruba isn’t anything special. I have seen far more spectacular
sights in California, and I bet Hawaii blows Aruba away.
Aruba, you aren’t “all that” anyway.
Justice for Natalee
Boycott Aruba
mary ann evidently stayed out in the sun way too long. while we do have horrendous crimes occuring here almost daily, we spend millions bringing the perpetrators to justice and putting them away in jails. aruba spends millions making excuses for the perps, blaming the victims in their press and on televisiona and their heartless businessmen make public announcements proclaiming that the victim’s parents just need to shut up, go home, and get over it. nice place, the vile isle. aruba, home of the pariahs of the caribbean. there ought to be a movie. starring, of course, j2k playing themselves.
dennisintn
#1 just answer one question….Where is Natalee Holloway???
on your so-called “happy island”?
Nelson Oduber:
The first thing that comes to mind when I think of this
dishonorable pig, is that his son brutally raped the family
Oduber maid and Paulus helped keep him out of legal
troubles over it. That came in handy to call in favors when
it came to his son raping and disposing of Natalee.
Paulus’ own carnivore of course, the sadistic & sick serial
killer Joran Van der sloot. J still goes free to rape
and kill some more in Aruba and the Netherlands!
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However, if you wipe all that out… nobody, not even the
most patriotic Aruban loving soul, can explain why Joran
said in a recent Dutch Magazine interview
“Natalee Holloway, f**** the b****,
I purposely left Natalee on the beach to disrespect her.”
Joran 6/2007
Even if you support Aruba,
and/or and the gosh awful raping
murdering Van der sloot family…
….nobody, NOBODY …. NO > BODY
can explain those sadistic comments
from Joran Van der sloot. Nobody can offer
a reasonable explanation as to why Joran still
feels the need to disrespect & attack Natalee and her family
2 years later. NOBODY! I am sure any patriotic
Aruban worth their salt, would kill him dead where
he stands if he ever spoke of their own missing/dead?
family members in such a fashion.
Burn in hell, Joran. Nobody has forgotten what you
did to Nat! Your day is on the horizon, and you know that.
Nobody really wants to pulverize Aruba, but as long as they
stand in the direct line of sight of you, they will keep
getting it relentlessly without Vaseline. All eyes on you,
bro. All eyes on you!
-j4n
http://tinyurl.com/25hhgh
By the way, folks, check in the forum … the people in New Orleans have posted their first report, and some photos.
Joran, a known rapist, walking the grounds of Aruba. Not only has he admitted to raping Natalee, Beth has a signed statement by him that he did this.
Left her on the beach to disrespect her…Joran, your teeth belong down your throat….
“”If I see her, I think I would hate her”…another statement by the sociopath, of which makes no sense…hate yourself! SUCKS, BEING YOU !
Joran…”Fok der bitch”…maybe someone will cut out your tounge….and remove your jackulator
You are a menace to anything and everything around you…
So much hatred on this site…
The fact that Oduber lost his case shows me that the government is not controlling the judicial system. Which is a good thing ofcourse… separation of powers. Considering all accuses of corruption at least we have an indication not everyone in Aruba is corrupt… as many of you like to believe…
Aruba doesn’t want the Van der Sloot’s living on their island…Paulus has got their hard earned tourist monies awarded by a judge, friend of his, that allowed him to win his unlawful lawsuit.
Netherlands, doesn’t want them…nothing but trouble…seen what they’d done to Aruba
#24….can some of you…Not Read…your posts can be so annoying…you said, not everyone in Aruba is corrupt>>>>>> Sweet Jesus
24. So much hatred on this site…
Comment by nishika | June 30, 2007, 10:10 am
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I agree nishika … there is a lot of hatred on this site. The majority who post at SM Front Page do not embrace with love the corrupt Aruban investigation that is riddled with conflicts of interest … a corrupt Aruban investigation which is protecting their own from implication in the events that encompass the morning when an eighteen year old American citizen went missing on Aruban soil. nishika … there is anger that Natalee Holloway has been denied justice … there is anger that her family has not been afforded a measure of closure.
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
October 4, 2005
GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?
MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with — and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.
24. So much hatred on this site…
Comment by nishika | June 30, 2007, 10:10 am
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EXPRESSION OF LOVE .. LOVE FOR A NATALEE … LOVE FOR NATALEE’S FAMILY
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11. MaryAnn, do you really think I could rest and relax from a hectic world on a crappy little Island in the Caribbean where Natalee Holloway’s body lies, hidden from her family? Could I enjoy myself in a place where a loving father searched in a garbage dump for his daughter’s body while officials did everything they could to stop him? If so, you idea of a nice place to vacation is totally different than mine.
If I stepped foot on Aruba, my heart and mind would be on the terrible injustices suffered by Natalee and her family. I couldn’t possibly do anything but sit and weep for what her family has had to endure – let along imagining what Natalee might have had to endure when she was raped and murdered on Aruba.
Comment by katablog.com | June 29, 2007, 10:19 pm
“wah, wah, wah” (Nelson Oduber is moaning because “anyone can say whatever they want and not be prosecuted”.)
You’d think that Nelson would be more concerned with anyone being able to lie and cover up their involvement in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, and be granted freedom to get away with it.
Hurray for Jossey: the man who finds TRUTH FIT TO PRINT!
Boo, hoo, hoo for Nelson Oduber.
Observer, (#7) you deserve the pulitzer today for your excellent summary of the real truth about Aruba, along with the real truth posted from so many of Natalee’s friends who remain unwilling to toss her aside like Aruba’s criminals did, claiming her truth would “blow over in a few weeks.”
The real truth about Aruba isn’t very pretty or “happy”.
What a great presence of caring people who stand together to say: this young lady matters to us!
This young girl needs to go home to her family.
What a wonder group of people to stand together for Natalee and her family and say that her life, and her truth matters. Nice posts Natalee’s Monkeys!
#24…you refer to the word hate…got that right…we do show animosity and intense dislike toward those who intentionally participated and corrupted the case of Natalee Holloway and we have every God given right to do so.
And you better be glad Jossy won…he is your friend and ours…..Oduber knows he took a wrong turn, and now he’s got his tail between his leg…
24. So much hatred on this site…
Comment by nishika | June 30, 2007, 10:10 am
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Psalm 97:10
Let those who love the LORD hate evil
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Psalm 97:9
To fear the LORD is to hate evil
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Amos 5:15
Hate evil, love good
Couple of articles from today’s news. Bear with me.
The first one: international human trafficking ring uncovered in Brazil and Spain. Some fifty women from various countries in South America were promised good jobs in Spain. When they got there, their passports were taken and they were forced into prostitution.
Not bad money for the perpetrators, who included a mother-and-daughter team. They pulled in $500,000 a month.
The head of the gang was in Spain.
This is not kidnapping, this is using trickery to get people trapped. Probably the women had to pay high fees to get the “good jobs,” meaning the criminals could use their debts to threaten them.
But this proves the existence of international trafficking rings, if anyone doubted it, and that the money is big.
$500,000 a month goes a long way in most parts of the world.
Some people might be tempted to snare victims for that kind of cash … especially drug dealers?
http://www.newschannel5.tv/2007/6/29/973833/Brazilian-police-dismantle-human-trafficking-ring
Brazilian police dismantle human trafficking ring
Friday , June 29, 2007
SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) – Authorities have arrested 10 Brazilians accused of luring South American women to Spain and forcing them into prostitution, a federal police spokesman said Friday.
Those arrested Thursday included an attorney and a mother-and-daughter team that recruited women from Colombia, Paraguay and Brazil, federal police spokesman Francisco Morais said.
The ring promised women well-paid jobs in Spain, where their passports were taken and they were forced to prostitute themselves, Morais said.
He said the group is headed by a Spaniard “who should be arrested shortly by Spanish police.”
Police have identified some 50 women, 18 of them Brazilian, who fell prey to the gang, he added.
The suspects are being held on charges of criminal association, international human trafficking, prostitution and pimping. They face up to eight years in prison.
Morais said the Madrid-based organization made about $520,000 a month in profits.
#30 & 31 I think it’s better to keep God and religion out of this discussion….
The other story comes from a Miami station. It’s slugged “local story,” so I think that this town of Miramar is probably in Florida, rather than the California one.
I’ve always wondered why Paulus van der Sloot made that trip to Miami a few months (I believe) after Natalee vanished.
The guy in this story seems to be implicated in human smuggling and money laundering.
Remember, as I’ve pointed out often, drug trafficking and human trafficking are often linked.
And we can be sure that a lot of “hot” money in Miami is linked to the Caribbean. Or so I surmise: drug dealing is known to be a problem down there, where the dealers have resources that swamp those available to the governments.
Drug dealing, human trafficking, money laundering … it all goes together, folks. And this guy apparently was involved in some of them ….
What DID you do in Miami, Paulus? Why DID you go?
http://cbs4.com/local/local_story_181084252.html
Miramar Man Accused Of Human Trafficking
(CBS4) MIRAMAR Roman Robaina, who lives near Miramar, was arrested earlier in the week, accused of heading a human smuggling ring, according to law enforcement officials on Saturday.
Authorities said Robaina and his girlfriend were arrested, charged not only with smuggling humans into the U.S., but also for their alleged involvement in money laundering.
In Arizona, where the investigation is headed, Phoenix police say the ring reportedly made $30 million a year, smuggling about 300 illegal immigrants into the U.S. through Arizona each week.
33. #30 & 31 I THINK it’s better to keep God and religion out of this discussion….
Comment by nishika | June 30, 2007, 12:19 pm
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nishika (pretty name) … I THINK you should leave the moderating up to the SM moderators.
#33…I think it’s better if you don’t post at all…Athias!
“Rika” Niharilen Trivedi, Joran’s ex-girlfriend in 2005, her father Parimal Trivedi is resident manager of the Renaissance Resort and Casino. “RIKA” was only 12 YEARS OLD at that time! Guess what crime could of fallen under that relationship.
Alberto Levy, owner of Carlos ‘n Charlies
Rafael Levy, resides in Miami,Fla. alleged association with International porn coming out of Miami…Paulus probably stays there
Melody Granadilo, Joran’s ex-girlfried was told by a friend that Joran had called her on 05-30-05 from his tennis practice right after school that day(that was the day Joran slept in the nurses office but managed to play tennis right after school)and stated concern about the girl he had been with on 5/30 was missing….so if he left her on the beach and went to school that day how did he even know she was missing
Probably the biggest proof to me that the boycott effort by SM is a source of pain to Aruba: the number of trolls we get here saying how wonderful Aruba is and how well their tourism is doing. We know neither is true. If SM was having no effect, the trolls would not be here in droves.
Hate is a pretty strong word, but I agree that evil deserves that strong word. To me it’s the issue of what Aruba allowed Natalee’s family to go through. The extreme measures taken to defame both Natalee and Beth, the lack of efforts by the officials in helping Natalee’s family search for their daughter and in some cases their efforts to thwart the family’s efforts. Aruban officials also appeared to actually be assisting in the cover-up for the perps. These are all evil actions. These are the things I hate.
I don’t hate the people, I hate their actions and I hate the misery that the Holloway/Twitty families have to endure because of the lack of feeling and compassion on the part of both the perps and those who have covered up for them.
It’s horrible for parents to lose a child. It’s even more horrible to lose your child through a senseless crime; where someone takes your child’s life. It’s beyond horrific to be left in abeyance as to where you child’s body is for over two years, to be left to wonder every day exactly what happened to your child and have no grave to even visit in those horrible times when you just need to grieve.
Natalee’s parents know her spirit is not in a grave, the water or a garbage dump – or even on or near Aruba. In fact Natalee’s spirit has soared so high that it’s effected a lot of Americans along with the Scared Monkeys. But I’m sure that some of Natalee’s family’s grief would be eased by simply having a resting place for her body, to know that out of respect for Natalee, her body was respectfully buried and a place to sit quietly and remember her and celebrate her life.
Yet those who hide the crime and the perpetrators of the crime are so heartless that they aren’t interested in easing this family’s pain. They don’t care that the family wakes every day wondering where Natalee’s body lies.
Each and everyone of the trolls from one crappy island come here and they care about the damage done to aruba. They don’t care one bit about the damage that continues to be pushed on this family. That tells a lot.
The oder of Oduber, Jacobs, Croes, Janseen
It’s OK for the gov’t and the Ale who are suppose represent justice say:
How much money have you got?
Go to Carlos ‘n Charlies and have a beer, watch out they put stuff in your drinks
I am sick and tired of this case
Somebody needs to shut that woman up…(Was that a threat?)
Are you related to Hilter
Just to name a few
And now an attempt to silence the hard working decent people of Aruba
#21 Carpe. You said it. He is a pathetic excuse for a human being.
Brie (#30) … You say that Oduber has his tail between his legs. This is a slur on dogs in general.
Maybe we can say that Oduber is baring his teeth like some four-legged creatures do when cornered. The image of a rat seems to be quite appropriate.