RSSPass the Buck on the Aruban corruption investigation by Justice-minister Rudy Croes
The political hot potato that is an Aruban corruption investigation. Maybe they can get Mikey to do it?
Amigoe June 27, 2007: Dossier minister Croes sent back
ORANJESTAD – The Antillean Procurator General (PG) will not give advice on the Aruban corruption investigation by Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP).
Deputy PG Nico Jörg of Aruba has asked for advice early June, because he is of the opinion that the Aruban criminal law does not offer sufficient guarantee to protect the Public Prosecutor (OM) in this kind of political sensitive dossier.
He says that the PG and the OM cannot do their work, because to his opinion, they are being accused of political influence when prosecuting ministers and former ministers. He thought that he had a solution within the cooperation regulation between Aruba and the Antilles . The PG of the Antilles, who is according to Jörg totally immune for any influences from Aruba and the government of the Antilles cannot influence him in his advice to the PG of Aruba , could be the proper official to give the advice.
However, the Antillean Justice-minister David Dick has indicated that Aruba and the Antilles are autonomous countries, each responsible for their own decisions. With cases of corruption in own country, the PG and OM must assume their own responsibility, without the advice of third parties.
At this moment, the OM cannot confirm yet whether the dossier has indeed been sent back, but they do not deny this either. The spokesperson of the ministry of Justice in Aruba has meanwhile confirmed that the dossier is sent back without advice of the Antillean PG.
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This is called….
Nobody wants to catch a falling knife.
Would you want to get dragged into this sordid affair? Either you risk your personal safety by exposing all of the corruption…or you just go along with the program.
This one is too hot to just go along with the program.
Why don’t they all just resign from office and give the keys to the Netherlands. Live in exile in Venezuala or Columbia where they have liked minded folks.
md
what an EVIL place
STAY AWAY——–WARNING——-DANGER
EVIL ISLAND
CORRUPTION all over the place
welcome to SLUG ISLAND
ARUBA is a NIGHTMARE
stay away
it sucks
Dear Queen Beatrix-
Status aparte doesn’t work. None of your Caribbean territories can handle themselves unattended- like toddlers left in a tool shed. Your own investigators said long ago (in the early 1990s, to be specific) that Aruba was in danger of being taken over by corruption. Get a clue!
- the rest of the world
If I didn’t read this here, I would be incapable of believing it … even for Aruba. You mean that top legal officials down there are debating the issue of whether Aruba is independent from the Netherlands Antilles?
Has anyone on Aruba read Aristotle? If not, take this lesson from him: A=A. In other words, something is true or not true. Fact or not fact. Real or false.
That seems to be an idea that is alien to Aruba. There is simply no foundation there (well, Lorenzo’s house does have a basement) … no bedrock … nothing behind the ever-shifting palimpsest of something that’s said today and denied tomorrow. And never are the assertion or denial ever resolved.
Regarding the previous article about Aruba now turning to China to find new tourist….let me inform you that they are also targeting European countries very hard. I live in Sweden where the Nathalee Holloway case has never been mentioned in the media.
Recently, I noticed that there are travel shows on TV doing specials on Aruba, newspaper articles on Aruba with themes like “where to stay in Aruba” etc. Swedish peope travel a lot. And it is obvious that the Aruban tourist authority is sponsoring these journalists in TV and travel magazines with free trips. I even recieved a mail-order catalogue the other day that had been shot entirely in Aruba! I am someone that follows news about the caribbean very closely due to my familys many traves there (never to Aruba though and not planning to go there either!) and I am SURE there is a totally un-motivated Aruba fever in Sweden for the moment.
Just never a straight answer and never a follow up. Nothing could protect a prosecutor there if they would prosecute for the first time. Aruba the land of the lawless.
The only way Aruban officials would know the word justice is by looking it up in the dictionary. That’s evident after listening to the smear campaign against a victim of crime on their island. A smear campaign against the victim’s family. Not the first ones to have it happen to them in Aruba and by far have seen nothing that would lead me to believe if it were to happen again, nothing would happen any differently for a victim. Only in Aruba can a man dying be ruled a suicide after his legs are cut off and he’s set on fire. They are all Wacko-s.. Only in Aruba would they go out and arrest 2 people who never heard of Natalee and let the last known people she was around run freee for 9 days or more without fingerprinting, body searches, home searches, vehicle searches. These 3 men picked up Natalee when she was intoxicated and more than likely drugged at the bar for one reason only and it wasn’t to go on a sight seeing tour around Aruba at 1am and then leave her at a beach. I remember some talking about Deepak and Satish as if they were poor little innocent victims. Give me a break.
Rudy Croes, Karin Janssen and Oduber, the 3 stooges.
Ah, a new excuse for not prosecuting criminals in Aruba – Aruban law doesn’t give the prosecutors enough protection to do so. And the Antilles can’t get involved because Aruba is “independent” suddenly. Wonder if we will hear the same thing as a final resolution to the Netherlands investigation of Natalee’s rape and murder.
Haunting Evidence is on right now and focusing on Tim Miller’s daughter.
Ok, just watched Haunting Evidence and didn’t get much more out of that one , then I did Natalee’s segment. Just watching the Tim Miller and the other family, 20 plus years later, you can see how painful it still is.
I did buy 4 of Tim’s T-shirts this week.
Yet,the tourist in my family in the scandie areas prefer,safer and cheaper.They don’t trust the Carib
That article would make a great handout sheet at the New Orleans protest against Aruba.
#7, US embassy in Sweden: Worldwide Caution
April 27, 2007
This week the emergency management authorities in Sweden have participated in an emergency management exercise in order to test emergency response systems and raise the collective awareness of the importance of emergency preparedness in Swedish society.
Sweden 2007 Crime & Safety Report: In 2006, there continued to be a rise in burglaries, theft, fraud and other types of white-collar crime. Demonstrations occur frequently in Sweden and are sometimes anti-American in sentiment. Americans can minimize personal risk by staying away from demonstrations and by avoiding confrontation or altercations with protesters.
..no where is safe anymore..
Americans are not afraid to stand up to Aruba or anyone else lil buddy. Instead of drugging & ambush policy of Aruba we Americans will face you chumps down and prevail.
#15
Crime happens everywhere.
Aruba’s downfall is the cover up.
Justice for Natalee (#17), What you say is of course true.
But from what we’ve seen happen over the last two years (and from what we’ve learned happened earlier, but was kept from public view), would you be inclined to think that there was something fundamentally wrong with Aruba? I mean, some kind of idiocy that makes them look like children in a sandbox who can’t stop squabbling and who can’t for one moment run things of their own accord?
I would.
Sandbox children, of course, rarely have the power to do evil. That’s one place where Aruba is more “advanced.”
Haven’t been too many Americans disappearing in Sweden that I’ve heard of.
This is the most EVIL,VILE place on the planet…anyone who goes there is crazy. Its dispicable what goes on down there. LAWLESS and CORRUPT SATANS ISLAND. What more to say??Nothing. If you cant stand up for one girl, then what will you do when it happens to you or someone you love..Be a voice for Natalee go to N.O.s if you can…
#17 – J4N, you said it!
Take for example Canton, Ohio, where the chief law enforcement stated that “No one is above the law” ( his words, verbatim), and – indeed – NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW IN CANTON, OHIO. Why?
BECAUSE HONORABLE MEN AND WOMEN ARE RUNNING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THERE…
BECAUSE HONORABLE FBI AGENTS WERE INVOLVED IN THE RESOLUTION OF THE CASE OF THAT MISSING CHILD.
It’s not rocket science, and it doesn’t take a truck load of prescription eye glass lenses to SEE INTEGRITY when IT IS PRESENT.
Bobby Cutts learned that quickly when an honorable investigation led by men and women with INTEGRITY and RESPECT for laws that are intended to DEFEND AND PROTECT SOCIETY FROM PREDATORS was not offered any “special treatment” (even though he was a police officer), and found himself arrested for suspicion of his involvement in the murder of his nine month pregnant girl friend.
Or, how about the detective work that solved the case of the missing child from Kansas.
What did that take to solve, – all of 48 hours?
There are those who seem to try to twist the truth like a pretzel, waxing to re-shape it into some obscure generalization that applies to “no where” – when in fact, the real intent is to distract from the truth, and insert any form of derailment in attempts to make THIS IMMORAL, INDECENT, DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE TO A LITTLE GIRL NAMED NATALEE HOLLOWAY – suddenly apply to “everywhere”.
Like Natalee, suddenly the TRUTH is REMOVED, and we are left with DISTRACTIONS.
But as you clearly have pointed out, J4N: NATALEE SHALL NOT BE REMOVED.
HER TRUTH WILL NOT GO AWAY…
And no matter how much vortex the spinners twist up, the light of this little girl’s voice will come penetrating through all the depravity, indifference, cruelty, and insidious criminal conduct that continues to be clearly evident by the conduct of ALL entities within Aruba’s infrastructure that were charged with DEFENDING and PROTECTING the PUBLIC…(including the GUESTS, THE TOURISTS) AND WHO INSTEAD ENGAGED IN A SCANDELOUS COVER UP.
They failed Natalee miserably, as did they also fail her family and their criminal co-conspiratory conduct now deserves scrutiny as does the conduct of the perverted criminals who stole Natalee’s life away from her loving family, and stole away Natalee’s hopes and dreams, and then lied in the face of her parents, in the face of the judiciary, in the face of all “law enforcement” officials, but got caught by a mother’s profound and abiding lover for her baby, and her refusal to abandon her beautiful daughter and a father’s refusal to abandon his precious child.
The inhumane cruelty inflicted upon Natalee’s mother alone is diabolical, no less to add to this the depravity that would collude to DESECRATE a little girls body, while her defenseless parents from another country – with absolutely no resources on hand to support them or help them, are FORCED TO WATCH.
What kind of depravity would ALLOW such hideous conduct to be carried out?
What kind of depravity would ENGAGE and SUBMIT to such immoral cruelty and indifference to a GUEST, in their country?
This conduct is barbaric and reveals uncivilized conduct where, in the United States – you’d be arrested for treating a DOG that way, no less a HUMAN BEING.
You capture so very well, J4N, exactly where the DANGER and the UNSAFE CONDITIONS LIE: right in the same COURT as the depraved decision making, the scandelous judgements, the immoral “responses” offered up as “We are doing everything to find her” – when, FACTS INDICATE THAT “FINDING HER” WAS NEVER EVEN A GOAL.
They should have just said what they really meant: “We’re doing everything to ERASE her so that her family will never see her again in the condition that we found her in.”
Integrity is not difficult to see, nor is honor and decency something difficult to offer.
All it takes is a WILL to be honorable and decent.
All it takes is to ACT with INTEGRITY.
ACTIONS DO SPEAK SO MUCH LOUDER THAN WORDS EVER COULD!
But, until we see actions from the Dutch KLPD that REVEAL JUSTICE FOR NATALEE, our words will continue to SPEAK HER TRUTH and CARRY ON HER RIGHT AND HER FAMILY’S RIGHT TO BE DEFENDED, PROTECTED AND SERVED JUSTICE!
INTEGRITY WITH TRUTH!
JUSTICE WITH HONOR!
Justice for Natalee and her family.
#15..Americans can minimize personal risk by staying away from demonstrations and by avoiding confrontation or altercations with protesters.>>>>>>>>>>>>”STICK IT”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We can avoid personal risk by staying out of Aruba!!!!
We’ll be in New Orleans, whether you like it or not!!! Aruba…Croes Country…little Colombia!!!
Does the Diario have an englich version, I might be missing. I see something about oduber boycotting diario again
I went to the “On the record” Fox web site. I see Greta still has the Holloway stuff on the front page. I clicked on a link to “Blogs for Natalee” When i go the front page of the site. There are all google ad’s to come to Aruba? Isn’t that a little conflict of interest? Aruba is responsible for her murder and coverup. But they have ad’s to come thereon her site?
#7 Hello Eva
Thank you for your post. Sweden is a beautiful country, perhaps the most beautiful of all that I have seen. I will be traveling there in two weeks for business.
I can see that you are clear on why avoiding travel to Aruba is an appropriate response in this distinct case. You can achieve much by simply sharing what you know with your friends and family.
I have found it best to stick to the big picture.
Aruba police and government arrested two innocent people to allow 9 days for disposal of evidence. A search warrant of the home of the last perosn seen with the victim was not allowed unitl TWO YEARS later. I often tell others that I am avoiding Aruba until the victims remains are returned to her family. And ask them to do the same imagining what they would want others to do if this was their family.
And to you # 15 I am surprised to learn that there is any significant anti American sentiment in Sweden. I have hosted hundreds of Swedes in my home. They seemed to like it here.
Thanks again for posting Eva
-gutfeeling
People are very well aware of the
fact that Joran Van der sloot the
sexual predatory murdering rapist
of Natalee Ann Holloway is being allowed
to go free to continue to stalk Aruba!
This is why nobody is going to Aruba
and their tourism has majorly tanked.
The numbers that they release these days
cannot be certified, because they are lying
to pump their numbers up. TRY TRY TRY — to
get official tourism numbers for 2007 from the island
that allowed Joran Van der sloot to kill Natalee Holloway.
Not ONE SOUL will sign off on it. They lie through their
teeth.
NOBODY WILL RISK THEIR LIFE, OR THE
LIVES OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. Take a look!
http://tinyurl.com/2qna38
#25 – you summed it up well.
Imagine having to face the unbearable sorrow of knowing your baby was kidnapped in international territory, and be told by on e of the liars involved in obstructing an investigation into your baby’s disappearance that YOUR FBI HAS “NO JURISDICTION” HERE.
Can you imagine what suffering a family goes through with not being granted the simple human decency of burying their baby’s victimized, tormented body?
How would you feel if you had not place to rest your beloved daughter’s body, no place to honor her, to remember her, to honor her good life and fine achievements?
How would you feel if in the face of your child’s human rights being violated and stripped from her, to hear the parent of one of the last men seen taking your baby away state: “Without a corpse, there is no case.”
How would you feel to know that LAW ENFORCEMENT, JUDGES AND OTHER ARUBAN OFFICIALS – ALL LIED TO YOU REGARDING THIER INTENTIONS TO SUPPORT YOUR GOAL TO FIND YOUR BABY?
What kind of immoral conduct would sanction the perverse actions /and or statements of a man who quips on the first day your baby is missing:
“Without a corpse, there is no case.”
You summed up everything so well, gutfeeling.
The depravity displayed, the corruption involved in the ALE response to KNOWLEDGE that Natalee was taken away in the night by three men, and then – NEVER SEEN AGAIN, amidst the three men lying repeatedly about WHAT THEY DID TO HER AND WHERE THEY PUT HER, is barbaric and uncivilized.
UNTIL THIS CHILD COMES HOME, THERE CAN BE NO JUSTICE.
WHAT KIND OF A COUNTRY UPHOLDS AND SANCTIONS THE CONTAINMENT OF THE VICTIM, AND SETS THE PREDATORS ALL FREE?
THERE CAN BE NO JUSTICE IN ARUBA UNTIL NATALEE HOLLOWAY IS FREED, AND COMES HOME TO HER HOMELAND.
Hej Eva,
Been to Sverige many times…..great country….much like Minnesota. I have many friends from there.
#15, I can understand why there are warnings for Americans in Sweden. It isn’t those of Swedish descent that are the issue. Like France, Sweden opened their doors to immigration and unfortunately….with immigration, while some hard working folks show up and appreciate the opportunity (running Kabob stands!), a dark element also comes with it.
It is no secret in talking with my Swedish friends that they are very concerned about what is going on in Malmo. Malmo most likely will become the first European city to have an Islamic majority. It is no secret either that there is a very radical element within the muslim community that wants to live above jurisdictional law and rather with their Islamic Sharia law. If you are an American tourist….you need to stay away from areas and certain people in Sweden. If you see a protest of people Malmo waving flags with Arabic on them…it is best to stay away even if they are peaceful.
I can assure you, the only nastey blonde haired Swedes that I have ever run into in my dozen or so visits to Sweden have been late at night in a disco. Usually, after plying themselves with “bottles of English” (as they call it) they want to strike up a conversation and then just suddenly, in a half stupor start blurting out stuff about the USA.
Definitely the minority. Sweden is safe.
md
Even if justice is served concerning Natalee, how can we forgive or forget all the injustice, for over 2 years, that has been done. How her family ever endured the trauma of being exposed to and dealing with such evil on that island….words just can’t describe it!!! I know for those of us that truly care, we hurt for them everyday.
In addition to Natalee, there are other reports of missing persons. And the list of reported deaths is getting longer and longer.
The true natives of Aruba have lost their island. It’s now in the hands of corruption and evil. And it’s beyond going backward!
Drug infested, drunk infested, many people are being killed just by traffic accidents alone. People are being shot on the streets. Only lunies would venture there! That is, if they are aware of what’s what!
Pearl, I like your style!!!
#24….Greta and Shepherd are trolls!!!!!!
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/primenewswire/122085.htm
Hot potato mashed potato!
24. I clicked on a link to “Blogs for Natalee” When i go the front page of the site. There are all google ad’s to come to Aruba? Isn’t that a little conflict of interest?
Comment by Meee | June 28, 2007, 12:43 pm
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In defence of BFN … I do not believe that the administrators of certain sites have the ability to control the ads which appear. The way I comprehend this issue … the word “Aruba” appears often in the posts and … this is what triggers the “Aruba” ads. I am open to correction if I have got this all wrong.
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Nevertheless … Robin Holloway no longer supports the boycott and … MIP6, Reality, Ramm and others members of BFN have never supported the boycott of Aruba.
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Associated Press
November 8, 2005
(AP) Gov. Bob Riley called for a nationwide travel boycott of Aruba on Tuesday on behalf a missing Alabama teenager’s family, who accuse the island’s government of not fully cooperating with the investigation into her disappearance. Riley asked his fellow governors to join him in urging the boycott of Aruba, where 18-year-old Natalee Holloway was last seen on May 30.
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Beth Twitty
CBS NEWS
March 25, 2005
“The only leverage that we have in getting any traction in the investigation is when they feel the effects of a boycott,” says Twitty.
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Dave Holloway
On the Record w/ Greta
November 17, 2005
HOLLOWAY: … I made sure that the prime minister understood our position. You know, I had been holding off on this boycott as long as I could, and I told him, I said, you know, The big wave is coming, and if you guys are not going to listen, I can’t help you anymore.
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Dave Holloway
Aruba Truth
November 9, 2005
The Aruban people elected their officials to make decisions in the best interests of their people, and we have done the same. The Alabama governor made a decision on Natalee’s behalf, so I will support that position.
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Senator Steve French
Alabama News
November 8, 2005
It’s my hope this will cause the Aruban people to be more demanding that their officials conduct a thorough investigation.