Rudy Croes … Aruba Breaks Ties with Netherlands


Isn’t this interesting. Rudy_CroesThe Aruban Justice Minister making such outlandish comments. Aruba won’t cooperate with the Dutch in the future. You mean they have cooperated in the past? Some where Betico Croes is rolling over in his grave at what things have become.

Aruba breaks ties with Netherlands.

The Aruban Justice Minister Rudy Croes breaks all ties with The Netherlands and in the future doesn’t want to cooperate any longer. To begin with the country will not participate in the coming tri-party-counsel between justice ministers of The Netherlands, The Netherlands Antilles and Aruba.

Rudy Croes said this in Colombia where he stays at this moment. He forbids all contacts between workers of the Justice Departement en The Netherlands. Croes is angry with The Netherlands. For two years already The Netherlands talk with the Netherlands Antilles about a new political organization of the Kingdom.” (Nieuw Nieuws)

(Hat Tip Robert)

‘Aruba verbreekt banden met Nederland’


(Rough translation of article)

Diario article.


Posted June 2, 2007 by
Aruba, Bizarre, Politics, World, WTF | 114 comments

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    114 Responses to “Rudy Croes … Aruba Breaks Ties with Netherlands”

    1. joe bear on June 2nd, 2007 6:44 pm


    2. Observer on June 2nd, 2007 7:25 pm

      “The Minister of In-Justice”..This guy is the Puppetmaster that has been pulling all the strings the last two years in the coverup of Natalee Holloway. He is as dirty and corrupt as you can get. How many groups does he have ties to in organized crime??

    3. Robert on June 2nd, 2007 7:28 pm

      The first part of the Telegraaf-article is exactly the same as the NieuwNieuws-article. The following is additional in the Telegraaf-article.

      Aruba as an autonomous island is only partialy involved in the tri-party counsel. But the countries already do talk a considerable time on further cooperation on justicial field between Aruba and the other Neth. Antilles. Croes now wants to stop al talks about that immediatly.

      The Aruban priminister Nel Oduber hasn’t yet responded to Croeses remarks. They have amazed Antillian priminister Emily de Jongh-Elhage who only the last days visited Aruba. The Antillian Minister of Justice David Dick says he either has had contact with Croes yet. He is curious to the motivation of Croeses decission.

      Rudy Croes is one of the big men/captains of the government of priminister Nel Oduber, both are related to the political party MEP

      The Ministry of Internal Affairs and Kingdomsrelations in The Hague sees no reason to react to the remarks of Croes. “We don’t have the impression that he speaks the standpoint of the Aruban government in general.” says a spokesman.

    4. Carpe Noctem on June 2nd, 2007 7:41 pm

      Rudy Croes serving as Aruba’s Minister of Justice is much

      like Micheal Jackson serving as Children’s Activities

      Director! Rudy Croes is a 3rd class Aruban criminal

      badly in need of a new toupee,

      and a free complimentary extradition to Holland for trials

      on crimes of sexual perversion, and more.

      Aruba sucks, they are a “sickness!”

      PLEASE DO NOT spend your

      money there, they will kill you and cover it up.

      Nobody will ever know you’ve died,

      unless you brought your

      friends with you.

      -Justice for Natalee Holloway

      day 333

    5. Sherry on June 2nd, 2007 7:41 pm

      So is this man like the ‘God of Aruba’ and whatever he says goes? Just curious..

    6. Allan K on June 2nd, 2007 8:57 pm

      Just another one of Aruba’s sexual perverts who likes young girls and has criminal ties.

    7. Gabriel Leo on June 2nd, 2007 9:00 pm

      HELL YEAH ;) !!

    8. Rammstein on June 2nd, 2007 9:11 pm

      bye, don’t let the door hit you in the behind when you walk out!!

      See if the Netherlands cares Croes, just hope the Aruban people are ready for the introduction of “Venezuelan” rules on the island.

    9. on June 2nd, 2007 9:50 pm

      Ha Ha, bet it’s more “misinformation”.

      If the Netherlands cut off the money, that may be the reason for the break!

      Bet Chavez will offer the one little crappy island a few bucks.

    10. Richard on June 2nd, 2007 10:04 pm

      So if this means anything, what does it mean?

      Is he trying to send a signal … we’ll resist anything you might do in the Natalee case? Is it related to Natalee at all? Are the drug barons squeezing the testicles of the people who run Aruba (assuming that they have testicles to squeeze, something that one would not assume judging from their behavior over the last two years)?

      Damned if I know ….

    11. houston on June 2nd, 2007 10:21 pm

      Another twist to things? Wonder what did bring this on, Dutch getting close to solving this case?

    12. minnesota dad on June 2nd, 2007 10:24 pm

      Is it just me…or are scaredmonkeys pages now automatically refreshing, causing messages being typed to be lost???

      Anyone have a cure for this refreshing problem? md

    13. Carpe Noctem on June 2nd, 2007 10:27 pm

      Kim Guilfoyle





    14. Juan on June 2nd, 2007 10:31 pm

      i’ve been censored

    15. rider on June 2nd, 2007 10:36 pm

      very odd timing of this “announcement”, isn’t it ?


    16. disgustedmom on June 2nd, 2007 10:46 pm

      You know how everyone in Aruba seems to be related? Is Rudy related to Charles Croes? Might explain a few things.

    17. Richard on June 2nd, 2007 10:48 pm

      Test … what happened to me just now is what happened to Minnesota Dad in #12. And once again, when asked what 1+1 is, I answered 2 … and was told that I was wrong.

    18. windy city on June 2nd, 2007 10:52 pm

      I don’t mean to be rude, but he kinda looks like the Amish guy I bought my table set from. No disrespect intended to the Amish!

    19. Sherry on June 2nd, 2007 10:53 pm

      #16 GREAT Point…hm maybe that is whats wrong with deepak and satish…the kids from inter-family marriage problem.

    20. Richard on June 2nd, 2007 10:56 pm

      OK … four times my post has been canceled in midstream, so to speak. Let it wait.

    21. Carpe Noctem on June 2nd, 2007 11:11 pm

      Same here Richard.

      Refreshing glitch of some sort going on!

      …and I keep failing the challenge…

      but no matter what it says…

      2 and 1 made 3 the

      last time I effin checked, bro bro.

      I have not failed this challenge, I demand a recount. :)

    22. Carpe Noctem on June 2nd, 2007 11:15 pm

      I wish Chavez would level Aruba to the ground tomorrow!

      Quite frankly…

      I think Aruba could use the stability. -j4n

    23. SPIDERMAN on June 2nd, 2007 11:20 pm


    24. Scared Monkeys on June 2nd, 2007 11:25 pm

      Sorry for the math errors. I will take a look at it. The problem is if I take it off, spam messages get way out of hand very quickly.


    25. minnesota dad on June 2nd, 2007 11:44 pm

      The math hasn’t been a problem for me, it is the page refreshing in mid-message typing causing the whole message to be lost….md

    26. Carpe Noctem on June 2nd, 2007 11:45 pm


      Hey Tom,

      I’ve actually learned to live and work around

      the less frequent math glitch error.

      …but Richard

      is right about the REFRESHING – WIPE OUT YOUR POST GLITCH…

      That really is a pizzer! It’s got me copying and pasting

      like a mug.

    27. minnesota dad on June 2nd, 2007 11:53 pm

      I see this as a huge deal.

      Here you have the head of justice – in the midst of the most scandal ridden cover-up of his department…the Natalee Holloway case – suddenly breaking all ties with the Netherlands???

      The same Netherlands that had been asked to re-investigate the Natalee Holloway case???

      Me thinks the Dutch have uncovered all of the judicial corruption on this case (like it wasn’t hitting them squarely between the eyes!) and the severe consequences of revealing.

      Me thinks that the Dutch are throwing up their hands, and stating if you don’t deal with this….we’ll deal with it.

      With that gun to Croes’ head, his only position to take is this one. Because he is going down too on this.

      This is exactly what government actors due when they have been caught and have no way out.

      Perhaps things will get interesting in Aruba…Dutch Investigators…I still have that ‘crow pie’ ready to be eaten. Arrest Paulus and the rest of the justice folks who pulled off this amateur cover-up!…

    28. LilPuma on June 3rd, 2007 12:08 am

      He says this from Columbia. Does he have a boss down there? We’ve always wondered why Aruban officials would cover for these thugs; we’ve theorized that there’s much more to it than a missing person; we’ve wondered where Joran got his spending money; we’ve wondered who could disappear a body and intimidate witnesses and honest police. And now the Minister of Justice makes this statement from Columbia. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

    29. minnesota dad on June 3rd, 2007 12:11 am

      Heck LilPuma….we’ve wondered who is footing the bill for the unemployed Kalpoe brothers…..something smells in Aruba….perhaps Paulus could give us more info!


    30. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 12:24 am

      RUDY doesn’t want to cooperate with the Netherlands any longer??? Cooperate with what? Why does Rudy have to be in Columbia when he announces this?

    31. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 12:26 am

      And how is he going to enforce this no contact order he issued to the other Minister’s when he’s in Columbia?

    32. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 12:31 am

      BTW my page keeps refreshing itself too!

    33. hammer on June 3rd, 2007 12:39 am


      You don’t think PERJURY sticks – except that Steve Croes is WIDE OPEN for this charge – WIDE OPEN. He remains a “witness” and can be called to testify under oath in front of another corrupted Aruban judge.

      And now to the criminally culpable Kalpoe brothers:

      Each of them by virtue of their 5/31/05 PV’s have committed a crime: OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

      You want to argue they were named “SUSPECTS” and are therefore immune from prosecution?


      Their OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE criminal conspiracy is well documented. Deepak admits he took numerous steps to thwart the investigation in to Natalee’s abduction, gang rape and murder. The Kalpoe’s were WITNESSES until their apprehension. 10 days of OBSTRUCTION, ramm -

      10 DAYS! From 5/31/05 WITNESS STATEMENTS to their 6/9/05 SUSPECT STATEMENTS. During this period of course, the Kalpoe’s OBSTRUCTION led to the arrest and incarceration of two innocent men.

      That’s OK, right? That’s OK under Aruban law. It’s fine to submit INTENTIONALLY FALSE TESTIMONY AS WITNESSES in order to arrest 2 innocent men.

      Since this OBSTRUCTION PROSECUTION IS SO OBVIOUS, RAMM – why do you think the Kalpoe’s were named SUSPECTS? To render the cretins immune from obvious criminal prosecution for OBSTRUCTION — ?

      EVEN THOUGH the 10 day gap exposes them as criminals, and thoroughly vulnerable to a successful OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE prosecution?

      Let me run the OBSTRUCTION prosecution – should be a cakewalk.


    34. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 12:43 am

      Why is Rudy barking out orders to other Minister’s from Columbia? Is Rudy hiding, afraid the Dutch are going to throw him in prison?

    35. hammer on June 3rd, 2007 1:15 am


      ON 6/9/05, Joan van der Sloot was properly charged as a SUSPECT in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

      By this time of course the wrongful arrest and apprehension of Mickey Johns and Abraham Jones had blown up in the faces of the Aruban judiciary. Their arrest, at dawn, on 6/05/05 – pulled out of their beds in their underwear and broadcast worldwide – was a travesty of justice. And it was predicated on INTENTIONALLY FALSE WITNESS TESTIMONY from Deepak and Satish Kalpoe (and likely joran van der sloot, though his 5/31/05 statement remains missing.)

      On 6/9/05, the Kalpoe brothers should have been brought in and questioned as WITNESSES with the charge of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE hanging over their heads.

      A first year law student could have discerned this obvious approach.

      Any idea what the civil penalty will be for prosecutorial malfeasance, failure to perform and incompetence will be after this gets vetted, Ramm?

      I mean, how obvious.


    36. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 1:20 am

      now 1 + 1 is the only math question ya get, even when ya refresh on purpose.

    37. Miss-Underestimated on June 3rd, 2007 1:42 am

      Can Beth file charges in the Netherlands, since jr sloot is a student there?

    38. Pearl on June 3rd, 2007 4:31 am

      #35, Hammer!

      Maybe you can help hammer out this one too…

      How is it that Steve Croes, whose lie-witness statements became part of the basis for the FALSE ARRESTS and FRAMING of Mickey John and Abraham Jones, along with the LIE-”WITNESS” statements made by JORAN, DEEPAK and SATISH on May 30, May 31 …how is it that Steve Croes statements of falsely implicating two innocent men (arrested on June 5), was somehow then dated AFTER the time of John and Jones arrest, and right around the time when Steve Croes is then arrested?

      In other words, Hammer: Where is the LIE-WITNESS statements from Steve Croes, that preceed the arrests of Mickey John and Abraham Jones, upon which the prosecutor, Karen Janssen based her arrest warrents and searches for Mickey John and Abraham Jones, when Steve Croes first statement, doesn’t appear, until around the time of his arrest (which occurred AFTER John and Jones were arrested), and Janssen stated that there were “other witnesses” in addition to the three liars: Joran, Deepak and Satish and the fourth liar, Paulus? Steve Croes first questioning seems to fall into the time frame as occurring AFTER John and Jones were arrested, yet, law enforcement figures were stating that he was one of the “witnesses” in support of Joran, Deepak and Satish’s “we dropped her off right in front of the lobby entrance where she was approached by a security guard” LIE.

      Hammer, do you think that someone in the ALE was tampering with “lie-witness statements”?

    39. Pearl on June 3rd, 2007 4:43 am

      So, Rudy has been holding up in Colombia, while the Dutch Investigative team was in Aruba? How long has Rudy been in Colombia? Interesting timing there, Rudy.

      I wonder why Rudy wasn’t available to answer questions for his top cop guests?

      And now, Rudy wants to sever ties with the Netherlands, forbidding any communication between the workers of the “justice” department in Aruba and the Netherlands?

      Say it ‘aint so, Rudy.
      Why can’t your people talk to your Dutch people in the Netherlands?
      What is it that you don’t want your staff communicating about, Rudy?
      Afraid someone will spill the lucky charms?

      Rudy is looking more and more like Oduber’s buddy, Chavez who doesn’t allow any “conflicting communications” whatsoever, from his dictatorial point of view.

      Rudy: is there a conflict concerning critical, sensitive, information that needs to be kept under wraps?

      And to think that the Netherlands response to Rudy’s instructions that the Aruban Justice Department have absolutely NO COMMUNICATION with the Netherlands is:

      “We don’t have the impression that he speaks the standpoint of the Aruban government in general.” (this according to a spokesperson).

      Well, guess what, Netherlands?
      It sure doesn’t seem that old Rudy is speaking in general terms, when he specifically FORBIDS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE WORKERS OF THE JUSTICE DEPT. AND THE NETHERLANDS!!!

      One would have to assume that there’s a reason that the Netherlands is trying to speak with Aruba’s “justice” department, and the refusal on the part of Aruba and Rudy, is perceived as “not speaking the standpoint of the government in general” ……..?


      Please, Netherlands – TELL ALL OF US, because there’s a family of incredibly courageous people, distraught and suffering torment that you apparently do not understand, over their child being stolen from them – KIDNAPPED, RAPED, BEATEN AND MURDERED IN ONE OF YOUR TERRITORIES: ARUBA, and – it seems, that ARUBA has claimed to that family, that the NETHERLANDS is in charge and pulling all the strings.

      If the Netherlands is not in charge, and Aruba’s RUDY is not in charge of his own department – THEN WHO IS IN CHARGE – “IN GENERAL”, NETHERLANDS?

      We’ve been “holding our breaths” for TWO YEARS, waiting for an answer from you.

      Why is it that when the abomination of Aruba’s perverted corruption proceeds to expose its’ ugly head to the world, as per Rudy’s instructions to his staff to NOT cooperate with the Dutch, suddenly no one seems to know WHO is in charge?

      If the Netherlands response to this outrageous conduct by Rudy is to say: that Rudy is “not speaking the standpoint of the government in general” despite Rudy giving very specific orders to his staff, to have NO COMMUNICATION with the Netherlands, then at the very least, Netherlands, tell us: WHO ANSWERS FOR THE INHUMANE TREATMENT INFLICTED UPON NATALEE HOLLOWAY AND HER FAMILY?

      Is Rudy now running the show from South America, and giving all the orders?

      Imagine: Rudy is informing the Netherlands investigative team that they are irrelevant because his staff isn’t going to cooperate …uh, communicate with them as per Rudy’s orders to NOT COMMUNICATE WITH THEM.

      And despite the Twitty Holloway family continuing to be subjected to the most barbaric inhumane treatment concerning the violations of their daughter’s human rights, and the horrific criminal acts inflicted upon her – and the refusal of the suspects to provide truthful answers as to WHERE Natalee was taken and by whom, we have Rudy – REFUSING to COOPERATE.

      How telling…
      How absolutely cruel.

      That’s real team work, Rudy.
      We’ll have to remember that the next time we hear your gang clanking about how “concerned” you all were – so much, so that you instructed your department to have absolutely no communication with the Netherlands.
      That, and the big fake ‘search’ heading south, in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION of where they KNEW Natalee was taken, will go down in the record books as one of the more hideous demonstrations of insidious corruption. The added malfeasance in “the letter” Paulus had creeping out of his hands adds the finishing touch, along with the hate from Joran and Deepak’s mouths as they tried to cover their

      Wasn’t it Rudy’s office that made the follow up release concerning JORAN’S CONFESSION, after the Aruban Polis, via DOMPIG, gave the first release to the press about JORAN’S CONFESSION ( the “WE KILLED NATALEE” CONFESSION” – - that morphed into “something bad happened” that became “suspects are LEADING POLIS TO THE LOCATION OF THE BODY” ..)…which then became, the “MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN”?

      You’d think that Rudy would want his office to help in any way they could in clearing up how a CONFESSION and a BODY RECOVERY, got turned into a “mis-information” campaign? What’s the matter, Rudy? Is there a problem in explaining HOW “the polis are being led to the location of the BODY” became – “misinformation” campaign?

      Interesting how Rudy is in Colombia while the Dutch Investigative team is being told to go fly a kite because Rudy’s staff has been instructed not to COMMUNICATE with them.

      Why do people flee Aruba, whenever it concerns ANSWERING QUESTIONS – about WHAT BARBARIC CRIMINAL ACTS WERE INFLICTED ON NATALEE HOLLOWAY, an American child, a tourist – whose family is grieving and suffering inhumane treatment in the manner in which they are being treated concerning getting ANSWERS as to what was done to their precious daughter, by whom, and having their precious child returned to them?

    40. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 5:45 am

      Another post cut short as i was typing. At least if this one gets on here, I will have answered 1+1 correctly.

    41. LilPuma on June 3rd, 2007 6:58 am

      29. Minnestota Dad: Let’s not forget Joe Tacopina’s bill. He’s still working the public relations angle for the van der Sloots, watching and waiting for someone he can sue and spreading lies on television for Joran and Paulus. Where is that money coming from?

    42. Crioyo on June 3rd, 2007 7:32 am

      naah. I think it has to do with the netherlands seeking more control/collaboration when it comes to justice/police issues. rudy is afraid of that.

      rudy/mep sometimes act like nationalist extremists. remember the status aparte’s deal was actually a gateway to independence but was renegotiated afterwards.
      his rhetoric is not surprising. this is the same guy that renamed all names of departments to papiamento abbreviations because he didn’t like that they were dutch. as if we’re not all dutch citizens, as if dutch isn’t our official language.

      btw tonight peter r de vries has a new natalee holloway episode. he tackles joran’s book.

    43. Susan on June 3rd, 2007 8:44 am

      Refresh problem still an issue!

    44. kayjay on June 3rd, 2007 9:19 am

      Here goes third try to post!! Jossy said last night on the line up that the Dutch were very secretive but he did know they were conferring with someone from ALE who handles matters pertaining to drugs. My words not his.

    45. kayjay on June 3rd, 2007 9:26 am

      ..and read Deetch’s post on ARUBA DIRTY POLICE..I love that title!

    46. Janet on June 3rd, 2007 10:42 am

      … Rudy Croes said this in Colombia where he stays at this moment. He forbids all contacts between workers of the Justice Departement en The Netherlands. Croes is angry with The Netherlands … (Nieuw Nieuws)

      Is it possible that Rudy Croes’ unwillingness to cooperate with the Netherlands has everything to do with the Natalee Holloway case? Could it be that the Dutch investigators were asking the hard questions?

      FOX NEWS – June 11, 2005
      David Cruz, A SPOKESMAN FOR THE ARUBAN MINISTER OF JUSTICE told FOX News Natalee Holloway, who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body.

    47. Vicki on June 3rd, 2007 10:44 am

      Dos anyone think Rudy has something to do with Natalee? and canhe do this???Break ties with NL?

    48. Susan on June 3rd, 2007 11:22 am


      That’s an interesting theory. It does sound a wee bit suspicious, doesn’t it? Why is he REALLY out of the country? Is he afraid of being arrested for his involvement in Natalee’s disappearance, whether it be obstruction of JUSTICE or his direct involvement in human trafficking or just being an out and out PERVERT?

      Miss Underestimated,

      Surely Beth has sought assistance from INTERPOL by now. If so, what is taking them so long?


      I love Deetch :-) He’s the bomb…LOL!

    49. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 1:40 pm

      Or could it be that he knows that Natalee is held captive in Venezuela and is checking to make sure that she is docile by now? The photos that the Dr. Phil show ran of Amy Bradley … photos that experts hired by the family say are almost certainly of her … came from Venezuela.

    50. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 1:46 pm

      Deetch is cool! It sure looks to me like Rudy is hiding and someone here asked how long he’s been in Columbia is a good one. Maybe since the KLPD arrived for the investigation of Natalee? Everyday its something crazy.

    51. Melissa on June 3rd, 2007 2:03 pm

      Is this a tactic for Aruba not to re-pay ALL of the debt it owes Holland?

      Rudy has had an office in Columbia for some time – in fact, if my memory is correct – there had been so much controversy a while back since Rudy is the one who signed all of the non-Arubian work permits. I think he was subsequently removed from that duty.

    52. Pearl on June 3rd, 2007 2:23 pm

      Yes, Susan. Deetch is the bomb!
      Imagine, there’s a man out there whose integrity can’t be bought.
      His words can’t be sold to the highest bidder.
      That must be truly perplexing to those unconscionable monsters who seem to have a price for everything – even when it comes to selling their integrity.

      It must be very perplexing to those without any moral integrity, to look at people like: Viet Vet, Deetch, Hammer, Justice for Natalee, Miss Underestimated, Klassand, Vicki, Carpe and Janet – and SO MANY MORE… and all the good people at Scared Monkeys who continue to stand by Natalee’s side and support her family – how perplexing that none of them can be bought by the highest bidder.

      How compelling that their standard is INTEGRITY, not how many dollars can be greased into their palms. They have NO PRICE for their honor.
      You can’t purchase their integrity, or their words – isn’t that true, Dompig?
      How sad for you Dompig! You don’t know how many Americans had hoped that you would turn out to be the man of honor and integrity to honor Natalee’s truth and her right to justice! But you seem to have sold out, Dompig. And you know exactly why we are left with that image of you – something only YOU can correct! There’s still time for you and for your son. Challenge him to be more, Dompig. Here’s some words for you to reflect on, Dompig as you recall your CBS interview with Troy Roberts ( you know, the one where you suggested that Natalee was in “possession of drugs”? That was such a lie, Dompig – and you KNEW IT. You could be so much more! But in the words of Natalee’s spirited attorney, who bars nothing – when it comes to hoping for his client, I will offer these words spoken by a great man, a man with a conscience, who spoke these words when stating what he hoped to teach HIS SON:

      “All I can hope to teach my son is to tell the truth and fear no man” And: “The only thing that counts is the right to know, to speak, to think — that, and the sanctity of the courts. Otherwise it’s not America.” And: “We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty.”
      (E.R. Murrow)

      So what will be your legacy to your son, Dompig?
      What will you teach your son concerning “loyalties” , honor, the telling of the truth and integrity? What will your lessons be to your son, Dompig?

      What will you model for your son, that upholds the sanctity of the courts – of which YOU were a representative as a person entrusted with upholding the very laws that were supposed to protect a little girl who was ganged up on by a bunch of savage men, who not only took Natalee’s precious life along with all her hopes and dreams, but who then proceeded to torture her family in the process?

      What will your legacy be, Dompig, when people speak of this precious child named Natalee Holloway?

      Yes, Deetch is the bomb. He’s a mighty force for Natalee’s truth, and her right to justice, and to think: he can’t be bought. None of these good people can be bought.
      There is no price for their words, their passion for truth, their insistence on justice for Natalee Holloway.

      As Viet Vet and others have stated with profound humility: they put on those boots, not because no one else can – but because they WILL, they DO, because it is WHO THEY ARE.

      When roll call comes, they step up to the line, and embrace that responsibility for freedom, which we all must be accountable for – OR BECOME, THE VERY EVIL AND WRETCHEDNESS, WE WORST FEAR. That is why people like Deetch, Hammer, Carpe, Justice for Natalee, Miss U, Vicki – and so many others here ( and the numbers are growing!), will NEVER have a price for which their integrity can be sold!

      “No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices.” (E.R. Murrow)

      It means that Paulus van der Sloot will have only that power that Aruba chooses to grant him, and in so doing, the good people of Aruba are making choices as to WHAT they wish and choose to become.
      If Paulus van der Sloot is their model – of what it means to be HUMAN, then GOD HELP THE GOOD PEOPLE LEFT IN ARUBA!

      In the becoming … is indeed everything, Aruba, and as E.R. Murrow once said: YOUR HISTORY WILL BE WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO CREATE.

      To those upstanding journalists, investigators, writers, and voices of Natalee’s truth, I implore you to consider the potential you hold in challenging everyone to take notice as to why this child’s story must be told, and what her truths, and beloved spirit can teach all of us.

      To you journalists, news anchors, and all those whose hearts are moved by the troubling, inhumane suffering that has been inflicted upon Natalee, and Natalee’s family – and who continue to painstakingly seek answers to HER TRUTH, I leave you with these words spoken by E. R. Murrow, whose vision for television ( and truly – all forms of the media), was instrinsically linked to a call for the public to be informed, a call for journalists to act with integrity to the truth in a story, and a calling forth of a dynamic spirit of responsibility that challenges all of us to SHAPE OUR HISTORY – to stand and take notice of THAT – WHICH WE ARE CHOOSING TO BECOME IN THE FUTURE, by the choices we make – here and now:

      “This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires and lights in a box. There is a great and perhaps decisive battle to be fought against ignorance, intolerance and indifference. This weapon of television could be useful.” (E.R. Murrow)

    53. peapod on June 3rd, 2007 3:14 pm

      He looks like a leprechaun gone mad!

    54. Susan on June 3rd, 2007 3:26 pm

      Pearl, very well said :-) Tom and Red ain’t too bad either…LOL! Too many folks chose to take the easiest routes thru life (whether right or wrong, politically correct or incorrect, informed or uninformed, etc.), always following, but never taking the lead :-(

      Dompig (or as I refer to him as “Dumb Pig” (oink, oink)) is/was nothing more than a “puppet” at the freak show (cover up) in Arubbish…

    55. Pearl on June 3rd, 2007 3:45 pm

      Yes, 54, Susan! Tom, Red, Minnesota dad, – just look at all the good people here, and in so many other places (TV Journalists who have stayed with this child’s truth – and stood by her story,)…so many, who are taking a stand for Natalee’s right to come home, Natalee’s right to justice – so many voices that are the cornerstones of Natalee’s truth!

    56. Brie on June 3rd, 2007 3:52 pm

      Wow!!! Pearl, that was truly inspiring. I hope the people of Aruba read yours words, today, tomorrow and everday after. Perhaps it will motivate those that need a push!

    57. Pearl on June 3rd, 2007 3:54 pm

      AND KLASSAND!!!!

      Hip, hip…hooray!

    58. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 4:04 pm


      HEY the refreshing thing just wiped out my lengthy post!

    59. on June 3rd, 2007 5:21 pm

      >>>Me thinks the Dutch have uncovered all of the judicial corruption on this case (like it wasn’t hitting them squarely between the eyes!) and the severe consequences of revealing.>>>

      LOL, a two-year old could see the judicial corruption in this case!

    60. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 5:24 pm

      Actually, when I look at the photo of Croes in that beard, I almost get the impression that he is trying to emulate Abraham Lincoln.

      What a farcical idiot that would make him. A pygmy trying to be a giant.

      Anyway, folks, whatever Aruba does … or doesn’t do … we still want to stand up for Natalee at New Orleans. There is even the possibility of a free place to stay.

      No justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba.

    61. nishika on June 3rd, 2007 6:07 pm

      Rudy Croes is having some problems with the Dutch Government for some time now. Recently the Dutch High Court decided that Dutch gay marriages should be acknowledged by the Aruban government. Croes opposes to gay marriage. In reaction to this Croes declared that he is ashamed of having a Dutch passport and that he would prefer an Aruban passport. Since last november a dutch guy (Peter de Witte) is in charge of the Aruban Police…. and that’s not because the policeforce was functioning very well!

    62. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 6:09 pm

      I’m wondering if Oduber will be quick to slap down Rudy Croes … after all, if it’s a case of the justice minister speaking out of place (isn’t it the job of the head of state to say what the government will do?), then in a normal government he would be straightened out.

      This seems to be the problem in Aruba, based on the two years we’ve been watching it … there basically seems to be no order, no standard rules of procedure, nothing that can be relied on to be true both today and tomorrow.

      I’m hoping that our State Department is keeping a close eye on this nonsense. Maybe it finally ought to start thinking about the prospect that there is no effective government in that drug barony known as Aruba.

      And maybe a tourist advisory might be in order … assuming that our government still feels some vestiges of concern about the safety of Americans abroad.

      I hope our Dutch friends here will keep us posted on any reaction in the Netherlands to these outbursts.

    63. nishika on June 3rd, 2007 6:36 pm

      To be honest I don’t think Croes will last very long. And the Dutch public? They are sick and tired of the scandals and the corruption…they gave up long ago and don’t really care..

    64. Susan on June 3rd, 2007 6:47 pm

      Hey Richard,

      Is there any chance that the “travel show” will be coming to Birmingham or Hotlanta? I think NO is about 6 hours from here, which is a lot closer than Boston or Miami. I’m not real crazy about traveling to NO though…



    65. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 6:47 pm

      Yeah we heard he didn’t like the gay marriage but there’s more than that to this “outburst” as Richard put it. Melissa…i thought the same thing when i first read this is that Oduber doesn’t want to pay back the Dutch Loans he made recently. But i’m hoping and praying right now that it also has to do with Natalee and the Dutch puts a stop to this nonsense that most Def reflects on the Dutch living on the motherland.

    66. LilPuma on June 3rd, 2007 6:48 pm

      It may be political and have nothing to do with the investigation of Natalee’s disappearance. Or it could be that Rudy Croes expected the Dutch to find nothing and close the case so Rudy and Nellie and Paulus and Joe T could say “See? No evidence of a crime. No evidence against the van der Sloots.” We’ve done all we can. Case closed. This does make me think that the Dutch are on to the corruption and crimes behind the disappearance of Natalee Holloway that turned this investigation into a farce.

      As for men/women of integrity, who can’t be bought, who step into those boots because that’s just who they are, I’d like to add Jossy and Tim Miller and let’s not forget Dana Pretzer.

    67. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 8:48 pm

      Susan (#64) … I don’t know if Aruba Tourism Authority would be stupid enough to go to Alabama at any time. I wouldn’t put it past them, but who knows?

      Today I had two people contact me (one from here) about taking part, and one person writing in asking to donate money.

      Again, please remember … one lady who lives in the area has very generously offered use of her time share to people who take part. If anyone wants to know more about this, write to and your email (or phone, if you want) will be sent on to this person.

      No justice for Natalee … no tourists for Aruba.

    68. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 8:50 pm

      It is of course totally coincidental that Aruba’s minister of justice is in Colombia, a land where drug lords hold a lot of sway ….

    69. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 8:52 pm

      You know what? I just had another look at that photo of Rudy Croes, and what comes to mind are those inimical Flying Monkeys, or whatever they are, from The Wizard of Oz.

      Does anyone else see a resemblance?

      Naturally, all monkeys on THIS blog disavow any relationship….

    70. nishika on June 3rd, 2007 8:53 pm

      I think it all comes down to one thing: Croes and associates don’t like the Dutch to interfere with their bussiness. And because of colonisation everything is very sensitive. I think the dutch tried not to interfere for a long time, because they do want to give them the right to govern their island…. but it seems they aren’t very capable to do so, or at least, the current government isn’t. Now things were getting so far out of hand, the Dutch had to step in.

      As for the people who say: boycot Aruba AND HOLLAND…don’t you get carried away a little in your emotions?

    71. Richard on June 3rd, 2007 9:09 pm

      Remember that the Dutch at one time intervened in the government of … I believe it was Curacao … and suspended the operations of the finance department.

      I know that I have seen this mentioned somewhere, and I think it was in a footnote to that mammoth article about the operations of the Mafia upon Aruba.

    72. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 9:10 pm

      This family and millions of American supporter’s have been lied to by the Aruban government officials and the dutch living there. The Van Der Sloot’s make the Dutch look bad and should be put in their place by their own countrymen. As long as the Dutch Investigator’s don’t buy into Aruban lies and go along with it then none of us supporter’s want to boycott Holland.

      We are sick and tired of Aruban Lies, Deceit and Treachery and we’re not going to stand for it anymore. Sure Aruba you can lie & protect criminal son’s but you WILL pay the price for doing so.

    73. Pearl on June 3rd, 2007 9:15 pm

      66 – LilPuma…Great additions to boot wearing advocates for Natalee’s justice!!!

      There seem to be so very many good people willing to step up to the line and put on a pair of boots for justice, and boots to KICK OUT CORRUPTION!

      Nice job, LilPuma!

      69- Richard….those flying terrorist monkeys were CROE-NIES, of the wicked old witch who was determined to NOT allow Dorothy to ever see her loved ones again.

      All Dorothy wanted: was to go home.

      Kind of like Natalee….. even including the terrorists who stripped her of her freedom, denied her from ever returning to her beloved Alabama, and never allowing her to embrace her mother, her father, her family again – never allowing her to go home.

    74. Brie on June 3rd, 2007 9:26 pm

      #69…Yes Richard, quite an observation. I to, see a resemblance. He definitely has one of those faces that makes one want to find a look-a-like!!!

    75. Pearl on June 3rd, 2007 9:27 pm

      63 – perhaps there are some good Dutch people who do care about the injustices that have been inflicted upon Natalee and her family. Perhaps there are some willing to reconcile spoken words with deeds rooted in acts of justice….

      Several years ago, some Dutch people proclaiming to be concerned about violations against women spoke out about improvements they believed were taking place in the Netherlands, and addressed issues concerning other Dutch territories – one of which, is Aruba…

      I’ve included the United Nations report that specifically looked at the Netherlands, and its’ territories:

      Committee Continues Review of Efforts to Comply
      With UN Convention on Elimination of Discrimination against Women


      Committee on Elimination of
      Discrimination against Women
      Twenty-fifth Session
      6 July 2001
      512th and 513th Meetings (AM & PM

      Back in 2001 …. The United Nations committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against women, reviewed the status of all membership nations concerning their oath to eliminate discrimination against women. A report submitted by the Netherlands claimed to have made made progress in this area.

      One would have to consider, whether the committee has now been informed of the 2005 barbaric treatment of Beth Twitty, a mother whose only request to Aruban government officials was that her daughter be returned to her.

      In her refusal to accept the abomination of lies, deception and out-right corruption concerning her attempts to get answers to heartbreaking questions over what was done to her daughter, Natalee, Beth Twitty was subjected to death threats, verbal assaults, and accusations of a contemptable nature that cast a heavy cloud of insidious corruption, and depraved indifference upon those individuals involved in the kidnapping, rape and murder of Beth’s daughter, Natalee, as well as the depraved assaultive conduct inflicted upon Beth in her search for the truth – and answers to WHAT has been done to her daughter, who took her away, and where has she been taken to. The flagrant violations of human rights, and abusive treatement of Natalee Holloway and her mother must be addressed by the UN committee, and in particular, by the Netherlands.

      Has the UN Committee on the elimination of discrimination against women, been informed of how Beth Twitty was treated – and was this treatment more of a barbaric view into those criminal Arubans substandard attitudes about women that allow children to be kidnapped, raped, beaten – and in Beth’s daughter’s case: murdered?

      Has the Committee on the elimination of discrimination against women, been privy to the barbaric acts of assaultive language hurled at Beth, resulting from her insistence that her daughter be returned to her?

      How does the committee view the findings of the ALE in how Beth Twitty was treated, and how the case of her missing daughter was treated?

      What of other women, whose cries for help and assistance in Aruba were completely ignored?

      Is there a continuing systematic violation of women’s rights being carried out in Aruba, based on an already substandard attitude towards women, reflected in corrections that were supposed to be implemented back in 1996, yet as of 2001, Aruba’s actions were speaking far louder than empty promises, as it appears, that at the 2001 meeting, Aruba failed to provide representatives to the meeting – so much for the value of women. Furthermore, it is compelling when considering the treatment of Beth Twitty regarding the savage cruelty inflicted upon her and her daughter, when considering that as far back as 1996, claims were being made to address Aruba’s subordinate attutides towards women.

      Here below lies a 2001 UN report where the Netherlands had claimed – as of 2001, to have demonstrated improvements concerning the elimination of discrimination against women:

      The Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women, comprising 23 experts from around the world, monitors compliance with the provisions of the 168-member Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women. Operational since 1981, it requires States parties to eliminate discrimination against women in the enjoyment of all civil, political, economic and cultural rights. An Optional Protocol of December 2000 — ratified by
      21 States parties — entitles the Committee to consider petitions from individual women or groups of women who have exhausted national remedies. It also entitles it to conduct inquiries into grave or systematic violations of the Convention.

      Much attention was focused on the recent abolition of the ban on brothels, in effect since January 1999. Representatives of the Ministry of Justice said that the Dutch Government was profoundly aware that the public was divided on the subject of prostitution and the way in which the Government should deal with it. It had been widely debated, in both Parliament and society. There was respect for the view that prostitution was an affront to human dignity and also for the view that sex for money among consenting adults had nothing to do with human dignity and should, therefore, be allowed.

      The reports on compliance by the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba — two autonomous parts of the Netherlands — were presented by Dirk Jan van den Berg, Permanent Representative of the Netherlands. He said that since its first appearance before the Committee in 1994, the Government of the Netherlands Antilles had striven towards the full implementation of the Women’s Convention. A new civil code of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba had come into force, making defunct a number of discriminatory laws, thus granting women equal rights in matters of marriage and family.

      On the situation in Aruba, he said a National Bureau of Women’s Affairs had been established there in 1996. That had played an important role in raising awareness of the rights of women and existing discriminatory provisions of the law. It also paid special attention to the traditional attitudes and practices, under which women were regarded as subordinate.

      Several experts expressed dissatisfaction with the lack of representation at the hearing from either the Netherlands Antilles or Aruba.

      The delegation from the Netherlands also included: G. Bekman and F.J. van Houwelingen of the Ministry for Social Affairs and Employment; H.J.B. Karreman and L.J.M. Ling Ket On of the Ministry of Justice; and A. Tiems of the Department for Mental Health Care, Care and Treatment of Drug Addicts and Social Care, Ministry for Public Health, Social Welfare and Sport.
      It would seem that the Netherlands owes an apology to Beth Twitty for the contemptable conduct inflicted upon her by Aruba, and inflicted upon her beloved daughter, Natalee.

      It would seem that the Netherlands owes – at the very least, a substantive demonstration of word put into action regarding the valuing of women, and in particular: valuing Beth Twitty’s right to KNOW WHERE HER DAUGHTER IS AS WELL AS HAVE HER RETURNED TO HER FAMILY, as well as NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S rights – to be valued as a human being, and dignified with her release from unlawful imprisonment in Aruba, and the desecration and containment of her body by the rapists who murdered her.

    76. Brie on June 3rd, 2007 9:29 pm

      Wonder what he’s got stored up in them, there cheekbones.

    77. nishika on June 3rd, 2007 10:04 pm

      75 My reaction in 63 was about Aruba becoming independant. The Dutch public seems to be in favour of independancy for Aruba.
      I WASN’T talking about the opinion of the Dutch public concerning the Natalee Holloway case. Like in every other country (and I’m sure this goes for Aruba as well) the public wants justice to be done.

    78. mayan_moons on June 3rd, 2007 10:59 pm

      Wow Richard you’ve hit on something, that is a strange resemblence to the monkeys in that movie!

    79. Steve Holloway on June 3rd, 2007 11:29 pm

      I could be totally wrong, but I have allways had a bad feeling about this man….. EVIL

    80. Pearl on June 4th, 2007 12:05 am

      Alas, 77 – at this point in time, Aruba is not independent of the Netherlands, and indeed does depend upon the mother ship, so to speak, concerning various jurisdictional matters for which the Netherlands supplies financial support to Aruba. This clearly indicates a relationship between the two, that mandates responsibility and accountability not only between the two countries, but amongst those countries with whom they have ties, and relationships.

      This relationship would suggest that Aruba and the Netherlands are indeed intrinsically connected ( unless, of course Rudy has already implemented Oduber’s threat to milk his uncle, Chavez for financial support in his earlier threat to snub the Netherlands.)

      This would seem to suggest that at the very least, Aruba is not fully autonomous on all internal matters, and indeed is accountable to the Netherlands when it concerns jurisdictional matters of defense, foreign affairs and certain judicial functions.

      “Part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, Aruba has full autonomy on all internal affairs with the exception of defense, foreign affairs, and some judicial functions.” ( US State Dept.)

      In the words of Condoleeza Rice, when quoting President George Bush, the secretary of state emphasized that human dignity was non-negotiable as a value of concern to the United States:

      “We are recommitting ourselves to call every government to account that still treats the basic rights of its citizens as options rather than, in President Bush’s words, the non-negotiable demands of human dignity.” (Condoleeza Rice)

      Natalee Holloway was a guest to Aruba, and a citizen of the United States of America.
      Her freedom was never an “option” for seizure by kidnappers, rapists and murderers.

      Indeed, Natalee’s freedom is valued and precious to her family.

      It will be telling to learn how the Netherlands treats this matter of human rights violations against an American citizen, Natalee Holloway, in a Dutch territory, Aruba.

      Thus: the call for a boycott to all Dutch territories, until the matter of exactly where the Netherlands will choose to stand is transparent for all to see – particularly, Natalee’s grieving family, whose only wish is to have their daughter returned to them, so that they can honor her with a proper burial that dignifies her human rights to be treated with dignity and respect and not held as a hostage in a foreign country, to the rapists and murderers who took everything that Natalee loved away from her, and left her mother and father inconsolable, tormented and heart broken with the daily torture of not knowing where she was taken, what was done to her and who took her away from her loving family – forever.

    81. mayan_moons on June 4th, 2007 12:18 am

      Hello Mr. Holloway, alot of us feel that way just seeing him on tv and in pics, R. Croe’s has actually been in your presence has he not? I can only imagine the strange interactions the family had with the entire cast of characters.

    82. Pearl on June 4th, 2007 12:38 am

      It’s intriguing, to see how rapdily Aruban officials mobilized in order to contain the unfolding hideous criminal scandal right in their midst, as Natalee’s parents were faced with the unimaginable task of searching crack houses, nightclubs known by polis to administer drugs unknowingly to customers, and garbage pits – all at the heartless suggestions that were filtered through various “officials” in Aruba to this brutally victimized family whose only hope was to find their precious daughter, Natalee.

      And to think, that by June 5th – there was an Aruban contingency already here in the United States, visiting our secretary of state, and discussing Natalee…

      You have to wonder, what exactly did Nelson Oduber say to our secretary of state, who received that Aruban contingency in good faith that they were truly conducting a transparent, honest investigation into the disappearance of Natalee?

      And what must our secretary of state think of him now, and the “minister of justice”, Rudy Croes, who both seem to have this alluring attraction to the dictator from Venezuela, Chavez.

      How telling that Aruban officials were already in Florida, by June 5, 2005, the same day that Mickey John and Abraham Jones were arrested.

      How telling that the Aruban contingency arrived that day, to offer their report on their “efforts” in finding Natalee.

      You just have to wonder at the amazing coincidence that THIS was the day, that these Aruban officials decided to pay a visit to our secretary of state.

      Interview With Juan Carlos Lopez of CNN Espanol

      Secretary Condoleezza Rice
      Fort Lauderdale, Florida
      June 6, 2005

      QUESTION: Have you received any update on the case of Natalee Holloway in Aruba?

      SECRETARY RICE: We are in constant contact. And I was able to thank the Aruban delegation here last night for the very good efforts that they are making. It’s obviously a case about which we’re very concerned and we’re all watching and working and also praying that this will come out all right.

      Aruba owes Secretary Rice an explanation as to how they could mislead her into believing that “good efforts” were being made, when what really was taking place, was the attempt to sabatoge Natalee’s parents from finding their child, while covering up the horrific criminal acts that were inflicted upon Natalee.

      Was the Aruban contingency that was sent to speak to our secretary of state, involved in this deplorable, criminal conduct to obstruct all attempts to finding Natalee while inflicting this brutal cruelty and suffering upon Natalee and her family?

      Condoleeza Rice deserves an answer.
      The United States deserves an answer.
      Natalee’s family deserves an answer.
      And Natalee deserves JUSTICE!

    83. nishika on June 4th, 2007 12:49 am

      @80 Well, go for it then! You boycott the Netherlands if you think this is the best way to solve the case and bring justice to Natalee and her family.

    84. Pearl on June 4th, 2007 1:34 am

      Only justice will solve the case.
      Only integrity will restore honor to Aruba.
      Only truth can bring justice to Natalee and to her family.

      I have hope that there are many good people in Aruba who care about justice, and the fact that this poor child continues to be held as a hostage, unlawfully imprisoned with her body held in barbaric containment, by rapists and murderers who care neither about the violations they inflicted upon her human rights, nor of the impact their criminal conduct has inflicted upon the good people in Aruba.

      I have hope that there are good people in Aruba, who do indeed care about justice and integrity, and that the children of Aruba grow in a society where honor and integrity can be restored through truth and respect for the sanctity of justice.

      Or, as one man with a profound respect for good conscience once said:

      “No man can terrorize an entire nation, unless we ALL are his accomplices.”

      The good people of Aruba have a choice: become witnesses to Natalee’s truth, or accomplices to the lies, and deceptions, and insidious conduct that robbed Natalee of everyone and everything she ever loved, and stole this precious child away from her loving family.

      Children in Aruba deserve to grow in a society that insures the sanctity of justice, that preserves the dignity of their human rights, and the integrity of their truth by upholding the laws intended to defend and protect them.

      Natalee Holloway deserved nothing less.

      Our hearts are broken, but our resolve for Natalee’s right to justice and her right for her family to carry home her truth will not be broken.

      Justice for Natalee Holloway!
      Find a conscience, Aruba!
      Honor your children, by honoring the integrity and justice that Natalee’s voice cries out for!

    85. Jerry from Ohio on June 4th, 2007 5:57 am

      I would luv to see a few groups of Dutch Marines start at one end of Aruba and leave the dead in their wake and then let the island begin again .
      Some of the DOA could and should be Joran ,Paulis Anita and The Kalpos
      ( Nara and two sons ) Just my own opinion, these people have NO socially redeeming value even as Human beings and still represent danger to younger people who live or arrive in Aruba .

    86. Richard on June 4th, 2007 6:05 am

      For now, anyway, let’s focus the boycott on Aruba. That’s enough of a task … and Aruba is our primary objective.

      An old military adage says never divide your forces in the presence of the enemy.

      The more targeted we are, the stronger our impact.

      And Aruba and its criminal pretense of a government are right in the center of the target. The closer and more accurate our aim, the better.

    87. disgustedmom on June 4th, 2007 9:55 am

      Who is really in charge of the Natalee Holloway case and the horrific mess made of it? Is it Aruba or is it The Netherlands?

      1. People prime to this case were relocated to the Netherlands really quickly. We assume they ‘ran’ away to escape the ALE. Yet if the Netherlands is so responsible for judicial matters of Aruba, then what safety zone is the Netherlands for these people therefore? Did they ‘run’ there of their own free will? Or were they summoned there by the Dutch for safe keeping?
      2. Joran could be there almost as a hostage should PVDS tell who really was behind his and his son’s involvement with Natalee. And he was kept in jail -safe, as Anita said- until it was time for him to go to school in The Netherlands whereupon he was released from jail BEFORE that particular allotted time he could have been held was up.
      3. Where did all the ‘evidence’ go before it was ‘lost’ or devalued? Wasn’t it, The Netherlands?
      4. And now we have Rudy Croes saying he’s had enough of The Netherlands telling him what to do, and he says this while being on non-Netherland aka protective soil?

      I’m not siding with the Arubans or anything. I’m just thinking “what the heck?” and wondering if we have been blaming only part of the Bigger Picture and that perhaps The Netherlands has been calling the coverup shots all along as well as perhaps those of Dutch decent being the ones directly involved with Natalee’s disappearance from the beginning of her being maybe selected that fateful night, and the Netherlands is letting Aruba take the fall.

    88. Miss-Underestimated on June 4th, 2007 2:33 pm

      Yes Stever, I agree, the man, just does not convey any honesty whatsoever. The man is not right.

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    94. CARLOS SEVERINO TROMP on April 25th, 2008 5:50 pm

      My open letter to mrs Beth Twitty, duped because of Aruba

      The Hague, The Netherlands, 25th of April 2008

      Dear mrs Elizabeth (Beth) Twitty,

      I, Carlos Severino Tromp, am the builder, owner, and writer of the Dutch website
      www. and I want to apologise to you through this letter via the website YOU TUBE for the injustice the ministry of Aruba has done to you, because injustice is injustice. I understand your pain and meekness as a human being and mother of Nathalee Holloway, and I also want to express my support for you, because you have lost the battle, but not the war! There is, alas, no justice in my country of birth Aruba, because the government of Nelson Orlando Oduber Prime Minister is corrupt, the eleven puppet members of parliament, and their president, mrs Marvin Wyatt-Ras, are nothing more than puppets who protect corruption. The Public Prosecuting Agency of Aruba (OM) Havenstraat #2, Oranjestad, Aruba, is a political Organisation and together with the communal Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba they have degenerated into a house of worship of Satan.

      Also the very corrupt crown civil servants, the violators of human rights: the Public Prosecutors General, Mr. Drs. Teresa Diana Croes Fernandez Pedra and the monster Mr Elivia Elvira Lugo who on a daily basis violates justice and human rights,

      (it is namely not for nothing that the now former commissary of police and inspector,
      Gerold Dompig, has thoroughly beaten her up. What is piquaint, however, is that he
      was not prosecuted for this severe maltreatment and even this incident was covered up
      by the local authorities of Aruba and that the motherland the Netherlands has, as usual,
      again closed her eyes to this serious fact) mrs Teresa Diana Croes and Elivia Lugo
      together with her colleagues; whom have perfected and legalised corruption there with
      the blessing of the corrupt Hyancintho Rudolfo Croes (Rudygate), minister of justice,
      for whom the motherland the Netherlands takes a bow!
      They are not to be trusted, falsify documents, commit forgery, manipulate the law, commit great injustice, so that justice there in fact has degenerated into justice metered out by tyrants and a lot more devious things against humanity and human rights, with the cooperation of many corrupt Dutch and Aruba lawyers, whom have all done such under the auspices of the kingdom of the Netherlands, which has therefore degenerated into a
      lowlife banana republic.
      KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS (Do no wrong in your judging: give thought to the position of the poor, do not only honor the position of the great; but be a judge to your neighbor in righteousness. Leviticus 19:15)

      This is the reason that Nathalee Holloway has become missing and Joran van der Sloot is untouchable within that banana republic, the kingdom of the netherlands.

      Joran van der Sloot would now have become a persona non grata. I have to laugh at this, because that is only a sly joke and a smoke curtain coming from the henchman of Satan with the nickname “Rudygate” sitting on the post of the secretary of justice of the very corrupt STATUS APARTE of Aruba, entitled as a den of thieves: the insular territory Aruba, being a part of the dutch banana republic. It is further totally irrelevant whether there is or is not a governor of Aruba, because this current governor is blind, deaf and mute concerning the crimes of his former political party MEP that is in power.

      A part of the populace is tainted with corruption. Just ask the former E.U. member of Parliament mr. Frits Bolkestein and the dutch Second Chamber member mr. Hero Brinkman; they are witnesses, because they have called Aruba a litter of robbers and a den of thieves.

      But do not think that I am surprised, because of the fact that the International Transparency rapports of Berlin have also entitled the motherland the Netherlands as being number seven on the list of all the corrupt countries in the world! Bad trees do not give good fruits!!

      The dutch government closes its eyes to the crimes taking place on Aruba against humanity and human rights in name of the head of state, the Queen, Mrs Beatrix. And the dutch Prime Minister Mr Drs Jan Peter Balkenende believes in his half truths and is helping the corrupt government of Aruba Prime Minister Nelson Orlando Oduber to fool the people and the world with a crooked rapport of the IMF into believing that the economy of Aruba is sound. Jan Peter Balkenende appears not to have feelings or be ashamed of his lies, or else he must be totally incompetent! Because how is it then possible that Aruba has only 120.000 inhabitants but a national debt of more than one billion guilders, while 80% of the populace has fallen into poverty? This has only been possible with the very corrupt cartel of Prime Minister Nelson Orlando Oduber, Hyacintho Rudolfo Croes (alias Rudygate), Marisol Lopez-Tromp (queen of corruption), Nilo Swaen who is manipulating figures on the ministry of finance, Ramon (the sex maniac) Lee, Eddie Briezen Namdar, Booshi (Mr false diploma) Wever and cronies.
      But it is understandable that dirty hands cannot clean anything what is dirty and IF Satan rises against Satan, he is fighting against himself and destroys his own kingdom; thus states the Holy Bible!

      I advise you to start a legal procedure against the insular territory of Aruba, the Dutch state or the Kingdom of the Netherlands, because the government of Aruba is lying to the world under the auspices of the kingdom of the netherlands, that lowlife banana republic, that Aruba is a safe and secure island for tourism; even for the people there is no justice, while there exists no security of law, no justice on that little island, neither that so called democracy!
      Because corruption is in power on Aruba and the government under the Cabinet of Nelson Orlando Oduber has changed the insular territory of Aruba into a den of thieves!
      I cordially welcome you to the website written in the Dutch and in English languages & ,
      so that you can get an impression of the total injustice that has manifested itself on Aruba.
      Probably on the 25th of April 2008 or in the near future a new website will appear in the English language called You are of course welcome to check it out.

      “DAME CLASS JUSTICE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS” Do not Err; God is not made sport of: for whatever seed a man puts in, he will get back as grain. Galatians 6-7


      You are absolutely invited to pass on this letter to the press, television any media.

      Yours Sincerely,

      C.S. Tromp

    95. CARLOS SEVERINO TROMP on April 25th, 2008 5:52 pm

      I, Carlos Severino Tromp, born in Aruba, and having the Dutch nationality, one of the victims of and also one of the duped persons of the head of state of the Netherlands, do hereby address an open letter to the head of state, Beatrix
      Wilhelmina Armguard, queen of the Netherlands,

      The Hague, 25-04-2008

      Dear head of state,

      I hereby wish to ask your attention for the umpteenth time on the same subject;

      As you are well aware, I am since 1999 struggling for justice within the Kingdom of the Netherlands on the part of the empire, the insular territory Aruba, and the motherland the Netherlands, but up till today without results. Though human rights are not for sale, they cannot also be bought. Yet justice within the kingdom is nowhere to be found. That is why I urgently wish to ask you as the head of state: do human rights concerning me exist in the kingdom? This because I am also born with human dignity and also have the right of human rights, justice, peace and freedom concerning me being respected and yet I cannot emigrate to my country of birth owing to the fact that the government of Aruba, the public prosecuting agency of Aruba, and members of the common court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba cannot be trusted! Knowingly and willingly the public prosecution agency of Aruba has four times horribly violated the observance of human rights concerning me, by hostaging me, torturing and imprisoning me without me having committed a prior crime with a total of 257 days in solitary confinement and 20 hours of imprisonment without rights. This with the compliance and knowledge of the aforementioned court. And as you are well aware of all these crimes committed against me by the organisations and institutions of the government of the insular territory Aruba and your civil servants who have taken the oath, like the public prosecutors general (PG’s), who should have known better, especially that public prosecutor general (PG) Mr Drs Teresa Diana Croes Fernandes Pedra, because I have already been informing you for years by means of correspondence, after your representatives had remained deaf and dumb to all my complaints and you too have remained totally passive to all the crimes.
      The legal consequences are that you, the Prime Minister Balkenende and all secretaries have in a penal law sense ( and not a constitutional one), by not acting, all committed the following crimes:

      ——Having taken part in the following crimes:
      • Violating the European Treaty of the Rights of man, in which is included the Universal Declaration of the Rights of man
      • Violating the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union
      • Violating the Treaty of New York (the U.N. treaty) and all further relevant treaties relevant to the rights of man
      • Taking revenge by abuse of power and supporting the very corrupt government of Aruba, the public prosecuting agency and the communal court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba
      • Hostaging me four times with a total of 257 days in solitary confinement and 20 hours of imprisonment without me having committed a prior crime, together with conspiring, plotting against me, discriminating me, telling lies to me, hostaging me, torturing me, stealing my property and subjugating me while being bound on hands and feet
      • Threatening to murder me with a black pistol aimed at me in the police station of San Nicolas on Aruba
      • Manipulating the law, lawyers, and the criminal sentence of 26th of March 2002, case number h.16/02, so that I am without a legal chance in the procedure in cassation
      • Abusing my under aged children by making them make damaging statements against me without them knowing what they were doing
      • Committing forgery and falsifying official documents
      • Covering up the dossier of the sentence of the 26th of March 2002, case number H.16/02, by the abovementioned court, so that I remain ignorant of the reason why I remained captive for 257 days in solitary confinement
      • Letting the public prosecuting agency of Aruba make dossiers disappear and covering that up.
      • Covering up crimes against humanity by civil servants of the public prosecuting agency of Aruba
      • Writing two false rehabilitation reports (H. Hoevertz) and two false psychiatrist reports (H.A.E van Gaalen), addressed to me with the aim to ruin my mental health on the island of Aruba, so that the truth would not surface
      • Placing me in a cell without a mattress, light, fresh air and a toilet
      • Allowing the sale of drugs
      • Corruption and a lot more devious things addressed against me that have taken place on the insular territory of Aruba, where you too are queen and head of state, in your name in a government building with closed doors where I was bound at hands and feet on the order of your crown civil servants, with on the wall your portrait at a desk apparently with your instructions, where you are also the head of state and queen with the last constitutional responsibility

      Of this you and your government are well aware or should be. And you and your Prime Minister Mr Drs Prof. J.P. Balkenende act as if there is nothing the matter, while the two of you both willingly and knowingly close your eyes to the truth of injustice, the unfairness of the semi dictatorial way of proceeding of the Prime Minister in the Netherlands as well as in Aruba, the secretaries here in this country and as well in Aruba, the members of the public prosecuting agency of Aruba, by this passive mentality and positioning.

      That is why I do not address you with Majesty, because you are not worth being addressed with the term Majesty, because your representatives do not respect you and they have in your name in front of your state portrait horribly trampled upon my human rights and you keep a hermetic silence while you are well informed, because of that you apply a double standard!
      It is also of the greatest importance that human rights within the kingdom of the Netherlands
      should too be protected and observed by the supremacy of law as guaranteed in the Dutch constitution, the Constitutional regulation of Aruba, the Statute for the kingdom of the Netherlands and the International treaties that your government, your predecessors and also you have signed concerning the legal performance and functioning of the constitutional state in the sense of the guaranteed rights and liberties for everyone so that duped persons are not in last instance forced to resort to inciting a revolution against oppression, tyranny and class justice. (signed treaties nota bene in which The Netherlands has guaranteed that human rights are observed and that there shall be sound government on Aruba and Curacao; such has as consequence that, if there should still arise corruption, violations of human rights, all kinds of legal and financial malversations and misgovernment, the motherland The Netherlands will have neglected her duties and repudiated her responsibilities), (In this regard please reminiscence the origin of the outbreak of the French revolution of 1789; e.g. among others things the excesses of Marie Antoinette).

      —–Being accessory to, at, for the afore-said crimes.

      ——Committing actions of support and backing up of the afore-said crimes.


      Seen from a legal point of view I can only draw the conclusion that you support and protect hardened white collar criminals, together with Prime Minister J.P. Balkenende and the remaining secretaries of the Balkenende Cabinets, as well as the civil servants concerned on the afore mentioned insular territories whom have committed the afore mentioned crimes.

      As a legal consequence therefore you and the Prime Minister together with all the secretaries and civil servants concerned here in this country and overseas must be prosecuted! And as I further know you have constitutional immunity, I must alas draw the legal conclusion and consequence that you are TOTALLY INCOMPETENT, AND TAKING PART IN, BEING ACCESSORY TO, AT AND FOR, AND COMMIT ACTIONS OF SUPPORT TO CORRUPT CROWN CIVIL SERVANTS, TOGETHER WITH ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED PERSONS and that you, the Prime Minister J.P. Balkenende and the remaining secretaries, should immediately be removed from office as the head of state and all the persons concerned be removed from office by the parliament as a constitutional sanction and you together with all the aforementioned persons have to be criminally prosecuted in order for your and their total involvement in all afore mentioned crimes to be established.

      Besides you and your prime minister J.P. Balkenende have not the right to point out to foreign powers to respect human rights: A diplomatic and trade mission of your administration Balkenende went to China in April 2004 where the Chinese P.M. Wen Jiabao was at the same time called to account for the better observance of human rights. Also on the 1st of November 2005 you and the P.M., mister J.P. Balkenende, together went to Schiphol Airport to receive the Russian president, mister Vladimir Poetin, and at the same time call him to account for the violations of human rights in his country with the object of the exploitation of natural gas and the abundant wealth of income from oil and natural gas. On the 30th of March 2006 during your state visit to the Argentine where you had a special agenda for the committed violations of human rights by the regime of Jorge Videla. You were also present at various opening ceremonies that directly refer to the existence and functioning of the universal declaration of Human rights and the aforementioned treaty of New York.
      And I can continue like this while my screams for justice to your government since 2003 and to you yourself since 2004 have fallen on deaf ears! Namely, because violations of human rights are covertly permitted within the kingdom of the Netherlands! I am therefore absolutely convinced that there is nobody within the administration of justice in the kingdom willing to move a finger to investigate all my complaints to the bottom. Nobody from the side of your government within the kingdom wants to hear the truth of injustice, and the unfairness of the political discrimination.

      This is -speaking politically- a bad state of affairs, a disgrace and a scandal!

      Apart from the legal consequences of penal law concerning all of this!!!

      My open letter is not meant to discredit you or your government; it is meant, however, to illustrate the other side of the Dutch European coin so that the rights of man, truth, justice, human dignity, peace and freedom are in reality permanently able to manifest themselves within your kingdom!

      For that reason I have again decided to personally address you as the head of state by means of this open letter for the seventh (7th.) time with the request for justice so that my complaints lodged against the civil servants on Aruba charged with the -in your name- upholding of law and dispensation of justice, amongst whom the former and present public prosecutors general Mr Drs Teresa Diana Croes Fernandes Pedra and the judges appointed by you, will initiate a criminal investigation; this because till this present moment not a single step has been taken in that direction in spite of my complaints and I therefore since 1999 cannot return to my country of birth without legal security.

      All the injustice done to me till this present moment is the result of the simple fact that I have utilised the legal possibilities of lodging complaints against the police commander Rodel Juan De Los Poulina and the Super public prosecutor general, mr Elivia Lugo, (whom the now former police commissioner and inspector Harold Dompig has beaten black and blue)
      Mr Elivia Elvira Lugo who is well versed in committing injustice and violating human rights, on the instructions of the public prosecutor, your crown civil servant, Mr Drs Teresa Diana Croes Fernandes and the former acting public prosecutor, Mr Frits C.V. de Groot, everything and everybody with the blessing of the very corrupt minister of justice, Hyacintho Rudolfo Croes ( alias Rudygate) and the former president of the court of appeal, Luis R.J. de Lannoy

      I now ask you not for help, but I do ask you, as such is your duty, to observe the correct compliance of human rights and bring order within the kingdom itself by promoting the actual enforcement of all human rights, before you, as head of state, address other countries on violations of human rights; because in the Kingdom it has become a totally normal state of affairs that human rights are trampled upon. Because everybody shields and covers everybody else in a constitutional, legal and political sense.

      For that reason it is not clear to me what kind of constitutional state exists within the Kingdom. Because it cannot be that in a constitutional state human rights are trampled upon and the state secretaries and civil servants and the head of state have their mouths full of the existence and proper functioning of human rights within the democracy of the Dutch constitutional state; by simulating the existence of a living democracy, but in fact allowing
      the reality of a political white collar criminality .

      Namely, violations of human rights are covertly permitted within the kingdom of the Netherlands, while nobody wants to put a stop to this utterly unsavoury situation!
      On the basis of the aforementioned it has to be concluded and determined that within the Kingdom of the Netherlands up to this moment each and every existing political administration, the formal heads of state of the Kingdom of Holland violate human rights or ignore them and have every interest in preventing actions that cannot stand daylight come to the surface, which has as a political and legal consequence that the Kingdom of the Netherlands is in fact a covert fascist dictatorship.

      I have abundantly tried to make clear to you that your representatives on the insular territory of Aruba are white collars criminals. The governor is completely knowledgeable of everything, but feigns a total lack of knowledge of the crimes taking place against human rights on the part of the empire Aruba. Namely, all the Oduber administrations have consisted of a gang of corrupt types who have thrown your official state portrait in the wastebasket and replaced it with the picture of a deceased man, Betico Croes, the brother of the criminally corrupt secretary of justice, Hyacintho Rudolfo Croes (alias “Rudygate”). The parliament of Aruba and the president Marvin Wyatt-Ras only consist of a bunch of 12 profiteers who know nothing better than being mere political “ aye-voters”, who support corruption and suppress the people of Aruba! The public prosecuting agency of Aruba and the members of the communal court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba of the so called justice system, where your official portrait stately hangs on the wall has degenerated into a corrupt den of white collar criminals who on a daily basis violate the rights of man and corruption is being upheld!

      All the hideous crimes, violations of human rights, the rape of law by civil servants charged with the maintenance of law and administration of justice, who take the oath in front of your state portrait in the presence of the governor of Aruba appointed by you, and pronounce injustice in your name in the courts of law, there where your official portrait is stately hanging on the wall, remain unpunished in the insular territory of Aruba without being discussed by and hidden from the international order of justice.

      These are the names of the devouring wolves in sheep’s clothing:
      The minister of so called justice: Hyacintho Rudolfo Croes
      The former public prosecutor general: Willem Ruud Rosingh
      The public prosecutor: Mr Teresa Diana Croes Fernandes Pedra
      The public prosecutor general and the acting public prosecutor: Mr Elivia Elvira Lugo
      The head district attorney and acting public prosecutor general: Frits C.V. de Groot
      The district attorney: Mr Carla Jacqueline Hemmes Boender
      The district attorney : mr Elivia Elvira Lugo
      The public prosecuting agency’s press district attorney: Elivia Elvira Lugo
      The acting district attorneys: Thijsen, O.R. Rasmijn and Eric Zaandam
      The commanders of the police station: Maurin Dirks and Roddel Juan de Dios Poulina
      The officers first class of police: Sheraldine Annette Frolijk Ollivierra, R.J. Oduber, Geerman, Michael Croes and Marlon Gumbs
      The judges commissary: Cor Slothouber, John S. Kuiperdal and Ono E. Mulder
      The judges: mr Ono E. Mulder, Jaap de Vroome, E.M. Debbie Angela and Petra de Bruin
      The medical doctor psychiatrist: Hendricus Antonios Eldimiro van Gaalen
      The legal social services aid worker Foundation Rehabilitation of prisoners: mrs G. Hoevertsz
      The president of the communal court of justice of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba, the acting president Mr M.M.M. Tillema The judges Mrs R.M. Mezas and D. van den Brink
      The acting presidents: Mrs H. De Doelder, R.F.B. van Zuthten and H. Warink
      The acting president: Mrs Teresa Diana Croes Fernandes Pedra, E.M. Debbie Angela and Petra de Bruin
      The managing director of CIA appointed by politicians: Gerald Keteldijk and Freddy Maduro
      The supervisor: Beltran Odor The lady social co-worker: Alicia Leonard The CIA guards: Bolchi Rodriguez and Gregory Rodriguez The president of the committee of supervision in CIA: Mr Elivia Elvira Lugo
      The lawyers: O.N. Flander, J.L. Petrocchi, Harold Falconi and Rossi Marchena

      KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS; Be not tricked; God is not made sport of: for whatever seed a man puts in, that will he get back as grain. Galatians 6-7
      Do no wrong in your judging: do not give thought to the position of the poor, or honour to the position of the great; but be a judge to your neighbour in righteousness. Leviticus 19:15 Woe to them who say that good is bad and that bad is good: that black is white and white black; that bitter is sweet and sweet bitter; Woe to them who think of themselves as being intelligent and wise! Woe to the heroes of wine, who brag about the amount of strong drink they can take. They let themselves be bribed to rape justice; they acquit the guilty and throw the innocent in jail. That is why God will meddle with them and burn them. They will burn like straw thrown upon the fire. Their roots will wither and their blossoms wither, because they have rejected God’s laws and turned their backs upon the word of the Holy of Israel. Jesaja 5:20-24 KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS;


      I finally refer you to my websites:, Probably on the 28th of April 2008 or in the near future two new website will appear in the English language called & in the Dutch language called, which is addressed to you.

      JUSTICE NOW OR NEVER !! With deepest regard, Carlos S. Tromp

    96. Carlos Severino Tromp on May 15th, 2008 7:41 am


    97. Carlos Severino Tromp on May 15th, 2008 7:44 am

      I, Carlos Severino Tromp, born in Aruba, and having the Dutch nationality, one of the victims of and also one of the duped persons of the head of state of the Netherlands, do hereby address an open letter to the head of state, Beatrix
      Wilhelmina Armguard, queen of the Netherlands, THE DUTCH CORRUPT KINGDOM OF NETHERLANDS.

    98. carlos Severino Tromp on June 18th, 2008 5:22 am

      “It is logical that I, a large part of my fellow countrymen and Nathalee Holloway are not allowed to receive justice, because the the prime minister of Aruba, NELSON ORLANDO ODUBER & FAMELY in 2001 have knowingly and willingly horribly violated the human rights of an American lady, Annabella, in the house of prime minister NELSON ORLANDO ODUBER by Ponton Aruba.

      The minister of justice, HYACINTHO RUOLFO CROES (RUDYGATE), is CORRUPT & big crook;
      THE public prosecuting agency, Havenstraat 2, Oranjestad, Aruba, is corrupt, falsifies documents; Head district attorney KARIN JANSSEN is a district attorney, who has committed fraud herself, and has manipulated the case of Nathalee Holloway; the dirty hands Public Prosecuting General Mr TERESA DIANA CROES FERNANDES PEDRA & ELIVIA ELVIRA LUGO, they are very corrupt; (ELIVIA ELVIRA LUGO IS the of ARUBA MONSTER)

      Judge and head district attorney FRITS C.V. DE GROOT judge-commissary JOHN S. KUIPERDAL and COR SLOTHOUBER are big bandits, falsify documents and violate the rights of man (this is a big crime gang of white collar criminals, so big I cannot give all the names, co-workers of queen Beatrix Armgard Wilhelmina); a large part of the police corps of Aruba is corrupt; a part of the people of Aruba is tainted with corruption; the governor of Aruba and the managing director of his cabinet are deaf, blind and mute to corruption and crimes against humanity;

      THE head of state, BEATRIX ARMGARD WILHELMINA, is pro-corruption and pro-violating human rights; prime minister Jan Peter Balkenende is a big liar, a hypocrite, is pro-corruption, and pro-violator of human rights; that is logical, because they are only interested in power, oil, and money.

      The minister of justice, Ernst Hirsch Ballin, already had to resign in 1994 because of political incompetence in a matter concerning corruption and drugs (the IRT-affair). A bad tree does not give good fruit, that is why Drs Mr Frits Bolkestein, Hero Brinkman and Geert Wilders and a large part of the European population have entitled Aruba and the Antilles as a den of thieves, because they cannot do anything else; because when Satan rises against Satan, he is fighting against himself and destroys his own kingdom.


      I am CARLOS SEVERINO TROMP, born within the corrupt kingdom of the Netherlands on the insular territory Aruba, the den of thieves; I am responsible for all letters I have written. Believe me or not! It is all on videos on YOUTUBE with the codeword tromp13carlos; on google codeword Carlos Severino Tromp; on the website please also look on ”

      With kindest personal regards,
      Carlos Severino Tromp

    99. Carlos Severino Tromp on June 25th, 2008 5:12 pm

      Who can sponsor me so that I can hold a press conference in America and inform the world about the truth of the crimes of the government of Aruba and her accomplices, who are under the auspices of the High Court of the Netherlands, the government in the Netherlands and the head of state, queen Beatrix, who deny their responsibility and are therefore violators of human rights! And so the world can know what KIND OF JUSTICE exists within the mentioned kingdom, why I scream so much, why Nathalee Holloway is still missing, why she is without justice and Joran van der Sloot is still walking around.

      I am Carlos Severino Tromp, a victim of white collar criminals of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, because in 1999 I have lodged complaints against various corrupt civil servants, violators of human rights, amongst whom: police station commander R.J. de D. Paulina and the district attorney Elivia Elvira Lugo, who occupies five positions within the public prosecuting agency of Aruba. Elivia Elvira Lugo & Teresa Diana Croes Fernandes Pedra tried to silence me by arresting me four times, maltreating me and throwing me in prison without rights and with forged documents.

      Already for eight years I cannot emigrate to my country of birth and visit my children and wife, because the government of Aruba, the cabinet Oduber, the public prosecuting agency of Aruba, Havenstraat # 2, Oranjestad, and the communal court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba are not to be trusted and are desperate and spread conspiracy traps against the people they cannot intimidate and subjugate. The mentioned persons and institutions have in fact tried to murder me so that their deeds stay hidden and are not brought into the daylight.

      My E-mail address is: and if you want to get to know me better, please take a look at the following websites, the Dutch website where you can see my IDcard too;

      I am also owner of the websites:
      On Youtube videos, codeword: tromp13carlos (all in the Dutch and English language)

      On the 1st of July 2008 there appears &
      ( in the English language with videos )

      Those who sponsor help justice prevail.

      With kindest personal regards,

      Carlos Severino Tromp

    100. Carlos Severino Tromp on June 26th, 2008 9:25 am

      I want to respond to a statement/question: Re: LINK 14 of scared monkey forum: Observer on May 10, 2008, 10:53:54 PM &Natalee Case Discussion #751 5/8 – « Reply #262 on: May 11, 2008, 03:44:56 AM »

      People wonder why I play the anthem and thread on the Dutch flag; well, it is because I have so many times taken from 1999 onwards the regular and civilised road of correspondence and gotten nowhere, that I have become radicalised with anger and frustration at the sheer injustice of my situation and position, caused by the great indifference of the Dutch head of state, queen Beatrix, her government and the Aruba cabinet of Oduber, the very corrupt public prosecuting agency of Aruba and communal court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba!(If they cannot stand the heat, let them get out of the kitchen!)

      Especially because they do not like to hear and know the truth and run away from their responsibility! And it is no wonder. Even Satan tries to make himself look like an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11 : 14
      With kindest personal regards,
      Carlos Severino Tromp

    101. Carlos Severino Tromp on June 26th, 2008 9:29 am

      Everybody is welcome to know and pass on the information on the following websites: tromp13carlos
      Google: Carlos Severino Tromp

      soon on the 1st of July 2008

      With kindest personal regards,

      Carlos Severino Tromp

    102. Carlos Severino Tromp on June 30th, 2008 10:26 am

      Hallo, people of the world, hallo, America, you all wonder why I play the anthem and thread on the Dutch flag; well, things have gone bad; I have so many times from 1999 onwards taken the regular and civilised road of correspondence and I have gotten nowhere, that’s why I have become radicalised with anger and frustration at the sheer injustice of my situation and position, caused by the dirty hands of the Aruba cabinet of Nelson O. Oduber & Rudy Croes and the very corrupt public prosecuting agency of Aruba, the communal court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba and the great indifference from the supporters of corruption and crimes against human rights: Mrs. Big Stuff, the queen Beatrix, Dutch head of state, and her government, Cabinet Balkenende; they run away from their responsibility, because they do not like to know the truth! But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no wonder that his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve.2Corinthians 11 14-15

      Queen Beatrix, Head of the Dutch Kingdom & Cabinet Balkenende: if you can’t stand the heat, get out, get out, get out, out of the kitchen ! ! !

      With kindest personal regards,
      Carlos Severino Tromp

    103. Carlos Severino Tromp on July 4th, 2008 7:07 pm

      Soon Video soon My open letter to Beth Twitty (In English)
      Soon Video soon My open letter to Beth Twitty (In English)
      Soon Video soon My open letter to Beth Twitty (In English)
      Soon Video soon My open letter to Beth Twitty (In English)

      With kindest personal regards,

      Carlos Severino Tromp

    104. Carlos Severino Tromp on July 9th, 2008 4:50 pm

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      Saving Ink

      January 15, 2007

      Her Majesty
      Queen Beatrix
      Noordeinde Palace
      Postbus 30412
      2500 GK Den Haag
      The Netherlands

      Her Majesty the Queen:

      Your Majesty;

      It is reported that Karin Janssen, the chief public prosecutor of Aruba, has left the island upon the expiration of her employment contract and has returned to the Netherlands. This is the same Karin Janssen who, about a year ago, said “fireworks” were imminent in the case of Natalee Holloway, an American who vanished on Aruba on May 30, 2005.

      It is not surprising, given Aruba’s litany of promises that turn out to be lies and pledges that are never carried out, that yet another statement by an Aruban official turned out to be empty. After all, Karin Janssen did once say that “we are getting the picture of the puzzle,” and said that it was possible to prosecute a case even in the absence of a body. Unfortunately, neither those statements nor any other have urged Aruba to take action.

      I am taking the presumption of writing to urge upon Your Majesty my sincere belief that only determined action by your government now offers a possibility of solving this case.

      In 2005, a team of Dutch detectives visited Aruba and said they were certain that Joran van der Sloot knew what happened to Natalee Holloway. In August 2006, Aruba asked your law enforcement authorities to take over the investigation. Dutch agents went to Aruba, collected documents, and returned home. Since then, there has been only silence.

      It would be tedious to list all of the evidence that points to the complicity of at least some members of Aruban government and law enforcement personnel in a conspiracy to shield certain persons from prosecution and punishment. Allow me to cite some key items here:

      –The lead investigator at the outset of the case, Jan van der Straaten, was a personal friend of Paulus van der Sloot, the father of one of the three main suspects.

      –Prosecutor Karin Janssen delayed arresting the three main suspects, the persons last seen with Natalee Holloway, even as two security guards were arrested with no evidence against them other than accusations by the main suspects, who later recanted them.

      –Although Dutch law stipulates that lying as a witness is a crime that bears a penalty, the many lies of the three main suspects and of their acquaintances were never prosecuted.

      –The van der Sloot home, residence of a key suspect, was not searched for about three weeks, though the homes of the security guard ‘suspects’ were searched upon their arrest.

      –When the van der Sloot home finally was searched, Judge Robert Wit, who was there, prohibited Aruban police from executing the terms of their warrant, which allowed a full search of the house and property, limiting the search to Joran van der Sloot’s apartment.

      –Paulus van der Sloot was allowed to review and edit his son’s initial statement to police and had access to police files while the belated investigation was proceeding.

      –Despite the many contradictions in the testimony of the three main suspects and of their acquaintances, a panel of judges ruled that the three could not be questioned further except on a voluntary basis. A subsequent pledge by Aruban spokesman Steve Cohen that Joran van der Sloot would be re-interrogated was never carried out.

      Your Majesty, these are but a few of the issues that have perplexed and angered the American public. More than a year and a half after Natalee Holloway vanished in Aruba, her family remain uninformed as to her fate. Aruba seems indifferent to this injustice.

      It is my unpleasant duty further to inform Your Majesty that this month another American tourist has gone missing in the Netherlands Antilles island of Saba. It is reported that officials of that island refused to allow missing-person posters to be displayed, citing fears of an adverse impact on tourism. This case remains unsolved as I write, but the indifference indicated by the island’s stance is highly suggestive of Aruba.

      Finally, may I remind Your Majesty that the case of Amy Bradley, an American believed to have been kidnapped in March 1998 from a cruise ship docked at port in Curacao, also is unsolved despite continued reports of sightings of her in apparent situations of duress.

      No American now expects honesty, integrity, or impartiality from Aruba’s government. We therefore must implore Your Majesty to ensure that your government will take active measures. It is a source of great disappointment that nothing but silence has been heard from the Dutch investigators, and has led to suspicions that no real action is planned.

      Your Majesty is aware of the courage displayed by Lamoral, Count of Egmont, who to his cost defied Spanish tyranny and championed the spirit of liberty. Likewise, the families of Amy Bradley and Natalee Holloway have been pursuing justice, and defying modern tyranny, in an area of the world where Your Majesty wields extensive influence.

      May I conclude this letter by beseeching Your Majesty to instruct your government also to defy the tyranny and injustice exemplified by Aruban action and inaction, and to ensure that our two peoples will stand unified in our determination that justice be done.



    105. Carlos Severino Tromp on July 10th, 2008 5:47 pm

      I thank everybody who has visited my videos on Youtube and I still need nine more visitors for the video”: My open letter to Beth Twitty, codeword: tromp13carlos so that I can present it to the Dutch queen next week; of course, everybody can still visit my other videos
      as much as they want to, because the more visitors come, the more
      powerful my message becomes!

      Thank you very much!
      Carlos Severino Tromp

      Dear people, you must check how popular my videos have become in all the world! But check it by codeword: tromp13carlos on Youtube and Carlos Severino Tromp on Google,

      RE: Nine more visitors, please.

    106. Carlos Severino Tromp on July 26th, 2008 7:37 am





    107. Carlos Severino Tromp on August 1st, 2008 6:04 pm

      Rudy Croes is the Minister of Injustice and corruption & corruption thieves, robber and if Rudy has integrity he backup his integrity.
      Rudy I am Carlos Severino Tromp you are corrupt corrupt robber thief same is Nelson Orlando Oduber, Marisol Lopez Tromp, Nilo Swaen, Ramon Lee-the-raper the sex-maniac-, Eddieson Uncle-Namdar Briezen, Frido Croes, they alle are corrupt. I am Carlos Severino Tromp if you don’t like you know the way good to look for you rights.

      I am Carlos Severino Tromp

    108. Carlos Severino Tromp on August 2nd, 2008 11:11 am

      Queen & head of Dutch Kingdom and her government You cannot fool God, so don’t make a fool of yourself! You will harvest what you plant. 8 If you follow your selfish desires, you will harvest destruction, but if you follow the Spirit, you will harvest eternal life. galatians 6:7-8

      This because the head of state of the Dutch Kingdom, queen Beatrix, PM, mr drs J.P. Balkenende, first & second chambers of the States general and a lot more Dutch institutes, are hypocrites and accessory to corruption, violations of human rights and a lot more crimes against humanity on Aruba.

      Because they are well aware that corruption is already long in power, and that the rights of man were raped right and left and pressure put upon the people to spend money on the corrupt cabinet of Nelson Orlando Oduber, Rudy Croes, family and cronies.

      Now that Beth Twitty keeps struggling for her rights and a lot of people have focused their eyes on Aruba and have discovered that the little island is completely corrupt and on every site where I ,Carlos Severino Tromp, can write or pass on what is happening on Aruba, the Dutch government tries to make the world believe that it is concerned about the corruption on Aruba. That is a smoke curtain.

      Balkenende hates the truth, because in his reply in the letter of the 8th of April 2005 to my letter of the 15th of December 2004, he has shown that he does not want to have anything to do with the truth. His reply shows clearly that my letter is an insult.
      Look on Nederland

      Not only Carlos Severino Tromp has informed these hypocrites, but also quite a lot fellow-countrymen of his have done this, but these hypocrites close their eyes to the truth and pretend as if there is nothing the matter.

      Carlos Severino Tromp

    109. Carlos Severino Tromp on August 15th, 2008 5:23 pm

      I, Carlos Severino Tromp, am one hundred procent capable and know exactly what I am doing and everything I am writing on all sites, is the truth, and nothing but the truth and I stand one hundred procent behind my statements.

      Who believes that I am lying or am humiliating, may go to court from me to clear his honour and good name.

      Carlos Severino Tromp

    110. Carlos Severino Tromp on August 15th, 2008 5:32 pm

      The MEP party Nelson Orlando Oduber, is a party of white collar delinquents and promotes delinquency Rudy Croes & Ramon Lee Ministers of Aruba who raped woman, was accused by girls to the Police, but class justice was questioned again!

      Sad,….dirty hands can’t clean dirty hands and if Satan rises against Satan, he is fighting against himself and destroys his own kingdom.

      Kind regards
      Carlos Severino tromp

    111. Carlos Severino Tromp on August 15th, 2008 5:35 pm

      I, Carlos Severino Tromp, am one hundred procent capable and know exactly what I am doing and everything I am writing on all sites, is the truth, and nothing but the truth and I stand one hundred procent behind my statements.

      Who believes that I am lying or am humiliating, may go to court from me to clear his honour and good name.

      Carlos Severino Tromp

    112. Carlos Severino Tromp on September 27th, 2008 12:27 pm

      The Hague, 27th of September 2008

      Dear readers,

      I, Carlos Severino Tromp, wish to communicate to you that in the middle of October coming, maybe for a week I will appear in a television program in Spain and talk by satellite to the Dutch Queen on the subject of human rights and general corruption in Aruba, in the public prosecuting agency there, and how Nathalee Holloway did not receive justice by the Aruba police system. The program will also be translated in English.

      With kindest personal regards,

      Carlos Severino Tromp
      You Tube: carlos13tromp & tromp13carlos

      If you still want to know more:
      Google: Carlos Severino Tromp

    113. Carlos Severino Tromp on October 31st, 2008 1:42 pm


      Dear readers of Shango of Scared Monkeys Forum:

      I, Carlos Severino Tromp, wish to communicate to you that on the following Monday, the 3rd of November 2008, I will appear the whole week on Spanish television as I told earlier! God willing the time for my deliverance and all the duped victims of the kingdom of the Netherlands and Aruba has arrived!

      I will accuse the kingdom of the Netherlands, queen Beatrix and the cabinet Balkenende, of being hypocrites, arch-liars, fascists, corrupt (mixed unity of interests), supporting white collar criminals, violating human rights, of committing class justice, running away from their responsibility, and playing deaf, blind and mute!

      And the cabinet Oduber on Aruba, members of the public prosecuting agency in Havenstraat #2, and members of the court of appeal on Aruba, of corruption (mixed unity of interests) and violating human rights!

      Google: Carlos Severino Tromp
      You Tube: carlos13tromp & tromp13carlos

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