Joran Van Der Sloot’s Book … Think You Have heard it All?


Just when you thought you had heard enough coming from the mouth of Joran Van der JorandeepakfriendsSloot, a long comes his recent book to further shed light on just what type of individual we are really dealing with.

With such chapter in his book as the following, we begin to understand just what type of person we have been witnessing these many months. It is rather interesting that Joran could devote such back ground on Natalee Holloway in his book from a person who admits . “he didn’t even know her name”.

Doesn’t the following line sound familiar out of the mouth of Joran Van der Sloot? It is all a premeditated game to target American female tourists.

- the best way to make a girl trust you (and not think you are a local beach bum) is to tell them you are a tourist also (JVDS)

Hat Tip to Rammstein at BFN for translation and summary of book content. Read it in full here.

  • Chapter 3 of Joran’s book: Going at out Carlos & Charlies
  • Chapter 4:  ”de pimps”
  • Chapter 7: Natalee Holloway  

Joran Pimp Porn

Check out the following from his chapter entitled “de Pimps.” Wake up America, think your daughters are safe when they travel to Aruba? Or are they mere targets and sport? To all those out there that have defended this nice little boy, what do you think now?

- dutch boys hang around the bar drinking beer, they aren’t up to “smooth talking” the girls. On Aruba there are a lot of hot tourist girls ready for a 1 night stand or holiday romance. If a girl doesn’t take to you you will realize this pretty soon and move on. It is a lot easier than in the Netherlands.

- American girls are the loosest/wildest of the lot, Joran thinks it is due to the fact that you can buy a drink here when you are under 21 (American drinking age). Joran says in Aruba you can order a drink if you barely are taller than the bar itself

- tourists strip on the bar and join drinking shows. While girls squat, boys hold bottles of beer in front of their privates and girls drink from it. Everybody loves those things.


page 2:

- American girls are the easiest to get with from all the girls, then come local girls and after that dutch girls

- he likes chatting up best in English

- on the island girls too make the first moves on guys or show how they feel about guys by bumping and grooving into them at clubs. Also giving shows by kissing other girls in front of you.

- the best way to make a girl trust you (and not think you are a local beach bum) is to tell them you are a tourist also. This way they do not think you are just trying to get them into the sack. The more often you try this “lie” the easier it gets to score from it. He would say however that he used to live on Aruba, that they still owned a place there and that this is the reason he knew all the good places to hang at

- Freddy and a few of his friends called themselves “the pimpology crew”. As a joke we used to call each other “pimp” when we were chatting up girls. (Rammstein)


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  • Scared Monkeys Radio Daily Commentary – Monday, February 4, 2008 – Joran Van Der Sloot’s Natalee Holloway Confession
  • “Hang him, that’s it.” “Then we’re done. But this will not give Natalee back”

  • Comments

    74 Responses to “Joran Van Der Sloot’s Book … Think You Have heard it All?”

    1. NM on May 11th, 2007 9:16 am

      The absolute REALITY is that no one would know or care to know or care who jurin is if it wasn’t for NATALEE!

      Deceiving, drugging, kidnapping, raping, murdering, and hidding Natalee from her loved ones is jurin’s only claim to fame. How sad for jurin that he has no talents to be known for, nor any personality to be known for.

      No one gives an F about jurin except where he and his pitiful POS father hid her.

      He should feel blessed that his name is used in the same sentence with Natalee’s name.

    2. 10061906 on May 11th, 2007 9:16 am

      Joran’s book should be prerequisite reading for any American female student contemplating a graduation trip to Aruba. Granted young females are targeted wherever they go and especially places they can drink alcoholic beverages.
      But at least you know what the odds of survival are on Aruba.
      10 to 1
      20 to 1
      You determine the odds by what value you place on your survival rate should you decide to go to Aruba.

    3. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 9:19 am

      Hey, Joran,

      You forgot to include a completed timeline in your pathetic book.
      Why can you not account for all your time and movements the night Natalee went missing?

      No one is stupid enough to believe your asinine beach story anymore.
      Not even ALE.

      I don’t want to hear your blathering. I want to know what happened to Natalee.

      I’m surprised you don’t have your sicko photoshopped pic of Natalee in your tome of lies.

      Joran, you don’t even realize how twisted you come across.

      The Dutch cops will be heroes when they nail your demented behind.

    4. wreck on May 11th, 2007 9:28 am

      This book is just an affirmation of just how STUPID this idiot is. I KNOW Tacopina would never allow him to write this — innocent or not. Joran also went on U.S. national television — again, STUPID!!! The ARROGANCE astonishes me.

    5. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 9:36 am




    6. 10061906 on May 11th, 2007 10:03 am

      Went back almost two years ago…. Not much has changed.
      A couple of books, a few attempts at searching the PVDS home. Couple of suspects arrested. The only thing extra is a few dead bodies and thicker layers of cover up.

    7. LilPuma on May 11th, 2007 10:09 am

      That excerpt tells us that the behavior by the three suspects in Natalee’s disappearance is a routine and accepted part of Aruban life. That, in turn, gives us insight into why the locals protested against Beth instead of the botched/corrupted investigation. It wasn’t just a PR firm telling Aruba to attack the victim and confuse the issue with the media, although that’s rumored to have happened, but a mind set in Aruba. “Whatever we do is okay, it’s the fault of the tourist.” Whether it’s a tourist getting drunk or a stepfather being aggressive over a missing girl, it’s the fault of the American tourist.
      Let’s travel to places that don’t think so little of us: Canada, US, Australia, England and who knows, maybe France soon! :-)

    8. Vicki on May 11th, 2007 10:14 am

      What a piece of ca-ca…..Can someone please just shoot this slime bucket??? I so wish he would come back on US soil…I would meet his freakin plane….Is it possible to be such a retard? How do you feel about your lil sporter now, ANITA. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW YOU HAVE 2 MURDERERS IN YOUR HOUSE? I want to see if this POS will return to LIERUBA this summer so EVERYONE can bow down to him cause they all love the piece of human waste. Your time is coming URINE…it may not be today, it may not be tomorrow…but when you least expect it…BAM

    9. 10061906 on May 11th, 2007 10:16 am

      then talks about Ruth having lost money and wanting to win it back at the black jack table. Natalee did not play black jack, she was walking between her friends and talking constantly on a CELLPHONE. At 20.40 hours Natalee starts drinking a vodka Mixer.

      - at the black jack table there are 2 men. One is white male, approx. 45 with dark hairs whom Madison had seen 2 days earlier at the HI casino. People later thought this guy resembled Paul van der Sloot, Joran’s dad but he had already left at that time. The other is a quiet, white young man who said he was 19 and came from the Netherlands.

      I thought her cell phone did not work on Aruba.
      Where did she get the phone and who could she be calling.
      I thought I saw her on the phone by checking the casino tape frame by frame.


      SM:   It has been verified that there was only one phone working amongst them.   They were passing that phone between eachother using it.   Natalee just happened to be using it then.   I don’t know who she was talking to on the phone, could have been anyone…could have been another MB kid on the trip   (klaasend)

    10. Mortella on May 11th, 2007 10:17 am

      Yes, no wonder the Dutch investigators were laughing at Joran’s book. It is one of the most arrogant and self serving things I have ever read in my life.

      Personally, I will not feel a real search has been conducted until they dig up any concrete at the Sloot compound poured after Natalee disappeared.

      And I hope Natalee’s family sues the pants off this psychopath for the lies he has stated as fact concerning their daughter.

      Class action lawsuit by all tourist tricked into thinking Aruba had a low crime rate might also be a good ides. Lawyers love those!

    11. Meee on May 11th, 2007 10:29 am

      Has Jossy asked in his Newspaper why the dutch didn’t tear up the concrete? Especially enlight that he knows what Art Wood has said about the back hoe operator? The Dutch are still on the island. Wouldn’t this be the right time to question why? Interesting that he hasn’t.

    12. Crioyo on May 11th, 2007 10:32 am

      7. i’d rather rephrase and say going to carlos and charlies and hitting on tourists, or being hit on by tourists, is a very routine and accepted part of youth culture in aruba.

    13. Robert on May 11th, 2007 10:36 am

      Great Ram that you wrote this summary (and translation). I was curious about the book but was very hesitant to buy it. Now I don’t have to support “The-Sick-One” in any way. Thanks. Thanks a lot!

    14. 10061906 on May 11th, 2007 10:47 am

      Klaasend. Refresh my memory. One phone amongst them. Did you mean one phone between Natalee, Ruth, Madison and Lee or one phone amongst the MBHS students?


      SM:  The only phone that worked internationally was I think William’s?   I’m not sure about ALL of the MBHS kids but within Natalee’s circle of closer friends on the trip. (klaasend)

    15. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 12:03 pm


      I predict you will be writing your next manuscript from
      a JAIL CELL.

      Dutch Team:


    16. Quinne on May 11th, 2007 12:03 pm

      Justice for Natalee,,,, The Dutch are still there. There is a good possibility they are going back to the Sloots and checking out that concrete. Its not over. I think its possible Natalee was buried next to the fence where they took measurements, samples, pics etc. Then she could have been placed under the concrete later. All the evidence like the belt, empty grave etc ALE found on the island was placed there to throw off the investigation. Just a guess.

    17. buckeye on May 11th, 2007 12:22 pm

      When he talks about the Aruban girls, I wondered why their brothers or fathers did not just go after these guys. Do the men on this island condone this for the women in their family?? TIA

    18. minnesota dad on May 11th, 2007 12:30 pm

      #9 – The repost from Joran’s book is a classic example of trying to rewrite history.

      The video shows Natalee Holloway entering the casino at 20:58 (8:58pm). The video also shows Paulus sitting at the blackjack table at 20:25 (8:25) with Natalee right next to him…..All of the clips appear to show 8:25pm as a consistent time. My guess is that they were playing cards at 21:25 or 22:25 and the video showing their card game has been altered to help Paulus’ alibi for the evening.

      It doesn’t clear up his alibi, however, as even playing at 8:25pm places him there two hours after the predator said he had left shows that Paulus wasn’t home picking up Sebastion….but rather hitting on 18 year olds.


    19. minnesota dad on May 11th, 2007 12:35 pm

      #16 Quinne,

      You are right. The belt, empty graves, tennis shoes left on the beach, etc…..all was done to point away from PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT and #19 Montana.

      Everything went down there. Everything.

      This case is very, very simple. Predators picked up girl, predators drugged girl, predators brought girl to #19 Montana, Something bad happened, no body – no crime……

      Why haven’t the Dutch luminoled Paulus’ home??? Why haven’t they retracted Karin J’s letter???

      It has all been to cover for Paulus. It is time to bring him and the corrupt ones down.


    20. 10061906 on May 11th, 2007 12:41 pm

      Where do you think they learn it from?

    21. wandering on May 11th, 2007 12:44 pm

      the evil spawn and paulus probably kept the sheets on which Natalee was violated and those sheets probably have not only his and jurines dna on them, but alsot deepak and sastish and rudy crose and michael posner and the cromvoort kid and the wever kid and his poli father and oduber, thus the cover up persists for it the sheets are found with nats blood and all the dna. that would make them all shut up, and would force deepak to say she had sex with all three of them willingly, however he never says she had sex with paul sloot willingly. which is why they are all in trouble if he goes down, deepak tries to explain away his dna onthe sheets, but it is the camer phone footage that was sent to bangbus in miami that really worries them all. natalee is buried where a control freask wouild want her to be, in his back yard.

    22. joe bear on May 11th, 2007 12:50 pm

      he said all girls 12 and over are not virgins,unless they can’t get out.I say lucky girls and does that mean that they can’t get in.i agree with buckeye

    23. Miss-Underestimated on May 11th, 2007 1:00 pm

      Why is Joran allowed to write a book and release the book, while he is still considered a suspect??????

      Why is he allowed to release information from documents, that the parents of Natalee are not privy to????

    24. Dayna Abel on May 11th, 2007 1:05 pm

      2. Joran often went to swim on the beach but always came back without his shoes/flip flops and then his mom had to go back to the beach to try and find them. He once forget a pair of really expensive sandals and his mom vowed only to buy him cheap shoes/flip flops


    25. Richard on May 11th, 2007 1:06 pm

      “Someday I’ll tell what I know, but not now.”

      Joran van der Sloot in an email to Greta van Susteren. (Quote may not be exact.)

      And you haven’t told it yet, have you, scumbag?

      I suggested to the Dutch prime minister in a letter that they call in Joran (who obviously, just in the statement above, admits that he hasn’t been totally forthcoming) and say … either you ‘fess up to what you know or get your sorry butt out of this country.

      Not holding my breath.

    26. Crioyo on May 11th, 2007 1:25 pm

      17. i think it sounds much worse than he means to say.
      he’s just referring to the ambiance of that nightclub. where anything goes and it’s all about getting drunk and crazy dancing on tables and drinking yards etc.

      the girls squatting and drinking beer dangling from a guy’s waist for example is a contest in carlos and charlies. winner gets free drinks etc.

      i’d make a similar ranking as him but i’d include canadians also as 2nd and venezuelans as last place.
      i have NO IDEA how he apparantly managed to get so lucky so often as he describes. he maybe took the concept of having fun in nightclubs too far, to the point that he became a real danger to the people around him?

      honestly i think he’s exagerating. making the case that natalee purely came to the club with ”intentions” and that he was just an unlucky victim of a fluke mistery.

    27. Vicki on May 11th, 2007 1:27 pm

      #23 MissU, I agree..also werent they all screaming that Beth ruined their investigation because she leaked things to the press?… WTF how can Urines writter have police docs???? Thats why this Island is going to hell in a hand bag…

    28. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 1:34 pm

      Observer reposted an interesting comment from Aruban girl Leila about the drugging and raping that goes on:

      Sorry I had to link; tried but could not bring it over.
      Klaas, it was originally from SM. Can you post or repost?


      SM:   I replaced the BFN link with the direct link to the photobucket album (klaasend)

    29. Vicki on May 11th, 2007 1:58 pm

      #24-WOW..justice, I never saw from the getgo the ppl on the Island knew what happened to Natalee.WOW..I just want to throw up…

    30. Robert on May 11th, 2007 2:17 pm

      # JusticeforNatalee | May 11, 2007, 1:34 pm

      A very worrying comment from Aruban Leila; the most worrying probably being that the girls don’t go to the police (anymore).
      The Aruban authorities should have long time agoo, made ADEQUATE policies to this big, BIG problem.

    31. Miss-Underestimated on May 11th, 2007 2:40 pm

      Is Anitas camera with the shoes, in the bag that Pauley had.


    32. buckeye on May 11th, 2007 2:54 pm

      My question is not Americans and not nightclubs. It’s the aruban girls he seems to go through like water. Do these girls brothers and fathers become concerned or is this lifestyle the norm?? TIA

      Quote from chapter 4 of Joran’s book

      On Aruba girls give it up (sex) much more easily. The weather is nice, everybody is a lot nicer. If it gets hot here (weather) than the hormones also start acting up. There are girls here who are just here for the sex, nothing more and nothing less. They are not stupid. I don’t have the illusion that they were all smitten/infatuated with me.

      - On Aruba you must also expect that your girlfriend might be getting it on with someone else too. It is a small island. You all go to the same schools, know the same crowd, go to the same clubs to go out and pick up girls. You have to be really good in order to be a player. Joran personally knows a few guys who have 2 or 3 phones for that reason. Joran only had 1 and that was private. I did not like it when girls were looking in my phone who I had been phoning/text messaging with. “If you would trust me, you would not check up on my through my phone” is what Joran would say to them. But he did not deserve that trust because he was no angel.

      - sometimes we would rent a hotel room. I happened that three guys were in the same room having sex with girls.

    33. Meee on May 11th, 2007 3:13 pm

      Feel free to e-mail Kimberly asking her for Holloway Coverage this weekend. Especially enlight of Art Woods comments about the back hoe operator who dug out an extension to the Van der sloot patio a few days after Natalee “Vanished” But wasn’t allowed to pour the concrete to finish the job. Ask her why didn’t the Dutch dig up the patio? Art Wood told the Aruban detectives of this. But they didn’t do anything with his info.

    34. 10061906 on May 11th, 2007 3:16 pm

      To those who say Natalee is buried on the VDS property. Can someone provide an approximate date that the man with the back hoe dug the patio at the VDS place?
      Can someone provide a date when the concrete was poured?
      If Natalee was at the VDS’s sleeping quarters and something bad happened there, Natalee would have had to be placed somewhere at a temporary location until the hole was dug.
      The closest is the crypts at St. Ana Church. Bifron; mover of corpses and Janus the caretaker. I believe the man found in the caves was a concrete worker. So now you have three dead persons; Shango, who knows most of the story, the cemetery worker who placed the body in a crypt and the concrete worker who may have seen something when he was pouring the concrete.

    35. Crioyo on May 11th, 2007 3:30 pm

      i showed that to some people and they just laughed.
      it’s like he or they ”the pimps” live in a world of their own. he’s got everybody thinking now that aruba is some kind of sodom and gomorra.

      he speaks for nobody when he makes those statements. it’d be cool if some more locals would comment on those paragraphs so it would not be just me saying this.

      his crowd is a very small clique of select ”elite” people, he never event went to public school like everyone else. when sm posted pictures of him with some girls/friend i recognized them as sleazy types i know personally who were already clubbing at the age of 14.

      joran represents such a small percentage of the scene that i don’t think anybody would read that and say ”oh yeah. he’s so right”. and besides that percentage he represents can be found in every country. freaky people are everywhere. joran is a sickminded loser who thinks the world revolves around him and that he’s a star of some kind. his self infatuation is everywhere in the book.

      btw in this quote i think he must be referring to tourists,
      otherwise it wouldn’t make any sense:

      On Aruba girls give it up (sex) much more easily. The weather is nice, everybody is a lot nicer. If it gets hot here (weather) than the hormones also start acting up. There are girls here who are just here for the sex, nothing more and nothing less.

    36. Treehouse on May 11th, 2007 4:05 pm

      2. he was conceived in Ecuador and his pregnant mother even traveled to Egypt while carrying him

      3. she even went ice skating on a frozen lake while carrying him. She fell on the ice.
      There, you see? Simple explanation for both Joran’s head and Anita’s a**.

    37. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 4:12 pm

      “On Aruba girls give it up (sex) much more easily. The weather is nice, everybody is a lot nicer. ”

      LOL Giving up sex easily has nothing to do with being “nice.”
      It just means you are promiscuous.

    38. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 4:13 pm


      Don’t let Paulus and Joran van der Sloot
      make fools of you.

      Bring them BOTH down.

    39. Mike on May 11th, 2007 5:21 pm

      the only way i would buy the book would be so i could shove it up the SOB’s a$$.

    40. Allan K on May 11th, 2007 5:34 pm

      What in the hell is the hold up with the Dutch Police?
      This not looking any better than ALE so far! I am not impressed with how many detectives are there.

      Results are the only thing that counts.

      Start with try to arrest some people for lying and making up an alibi for a serious crime.
      Surely the Dutch police can come up with a few criminal activities portrayed by the Sloot family. Remember the girls on the island that have been raped.
      The Dutch detectives on the island has been a farce. There are crimes exposed where they could have already made an arrest.

    41. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 6:34 pm

      Dutch cops:

      Be a police FORCE
      not a police FARCE
      like ALE

    42. arubagirl on May 11th, 2007 6:40 pm

      First of all, huge props to Rammstein. Like, the biggest props out there.

      I have to agree a bit with crioyo.

      On Aruba girls give it up (sex) much more easily. The weather is nice, everybody is a lot nicer. If it gets hot here (weather) than the hormones also start acting up. There are girls here who are just here for the sex, nothing more and nothing less. They are not stupid. I don’t have the illusion that they were all smitten/infatuated with me.

      I’m not sure who precisely he is comparing Aruban girls too, but in general, Aruban girls DO NOT give it up more easily than the other nationalities. I would say that other nationalities (except perhaps Latin) do give it up more easier.

      - On Aruba you must also expect that your girlfriend might be getting it on with someone else too. It is a small island.

      Uhm, no. Not only no, but HELL NO. There is not one Aruban guy who expects his girlfriend to have something going on the side. There’d be a big drama if there was. Who did this guy date, for God’s sake?

    43. Carpe Noctem on May 11th, 2007 6:41 pm

      We love Natalee Ann a bunch! She is not forgotten.
      Today is #711.

    44. Carpe Noctem on May 11th, 2007 6:43 pm
    45. Carpe Noctem on May 11th, 2007 7:02 pm

      To Joran The Rapist/Murderer, and that pathetic pip-squeek

      of a father of his, your days are numbered.

    46. Nut44x4 on May 11th, 2007 7:07 pm

      Very simple…..we know who was responsible 4 Nats Disappearance and I do wish she coul still be alive somewhere, but if she were…..what condition would she be in. In my heart I do think she is dead ( I am sorry to say this to family/friends/…….but I do. I only hope to bringher body home for peace and some sort of closure. Natalee was a beautiful woman…..bring her home.

    47. buckeye on May 11th, 2007 7:25 pm

      Rika (12), Melody, Flor, Elaine, Karen, Carmen…….
      That’s my question. If this is not the island norm, where is the drama etc. from the men in these girl’s lives?? How come a local has not cleaned his clock?? Is the general behavior acceptable, overlooked, whatever?? I know it’s acceptable tourist play but it seems to be day to day behavior, also. Around this town, he’d be toast. TIA

    48. Kat_Gram on May 11th, 2007 7:40 pm

      In the part about Melody and Karen, when he gets caught with his well, you know…. when confronted by the girls,
      what is his first strategy:
      Works well for this underachieving piece of trash who has no respect for women and I suspect that includes his Mumma !
      Women are just there for HIM HIM HIM and HIM alone.
      And for one thing.
      Makes you want to burn his damn book .

    49. Tibrogargan on May 11th, 2007 8:03 pm

      #48 Kat_Gram I think #39 has a better use for the book than burning it; even better if it is a hardcover edition and not a paperback.
      Quote :I did not like it when girls were looking in my phone who I had been phoning/text messaging with. “If you would trust me, you would not check up on my through my phone” is what Joran would say to them. end quote.
      Any girl that would trust this pervert needs to have a brain transplant.

    50. JusticeforNatalee on May 11th, 2007 8:55 pm


      Are we going to see any arrests soon?

      Start with Steve Croes and charge him
      with lying as a witness.
      When he sees real jail time coming,
      he will talk talk talk.

    51. Angiex911 on May 11th, 2007 9:06 pm

      There you are Carpe..!!! Wondered where the heck you been? LOL

    52. katablog on May 11th, 2007 9:15 pm

      Will there be further translations (outlines) of the rest of the book?

      Anyone notice what I did? Joran attempts to rehabilitate himself and his sorry mother and father all the way through the book. You see it’s not HIS fault that the girls on Aruba are loose and chasing his sorry butt all over the island. It’s not his parent’s fault that he’s running loose (he lies to them, but hey he does his school work so what’s the harm). I haven’t seen Joran admit that anything he did was really bad.

      I ended up royally p*ssed when I see Joran using information about Natalee and her childhood, parents, friends, etc. Of course the truth is that if you read through the lines (and lies), Natalee was indeed a great girl. I totally discount what the casino people say because they are with the hotel that certainly doesn’t want any liability for Natalee’s death – so it’s her fault if she died.


      SM:   As far as I know Ramm is translating/summarizing as quickly as he can when he’s not working.   So I expect he’ll probably post Chapter 8 soon. (klaasend)

    53. KrisG on May 11th, 2007 9:26 pm

      This book confirms all that we have been heaing about JVDS these past 2 years. And in his own words! Anita and Paulus must be mortified to find out they are such terrible parents! This started when he was 14 years old!

      The guys always came to him for a condom when they met someone, yet he didn’t have one the night he says he was with Natalee on the beach so they did not have sex.

      He writes that Aruba is a small island and people of similar ages know each other, yet he didn’t know Crumvort or Croes.

      He was so much more experienced (or should I say promiscuous)than Natalee. She never had a chance. As he writes on how he plays poker, he “can read a person’s weaknesses”.

      What can Anita possibly write about now? How she was such a clueless mother? Perhaps she’ll blame that fall on the ice when she was pregnant with Joran for his obnoxious behavior.

      Justice for Natalee Holloway! It’s been too long!

    54. wreck on May 11th, 2007 9:30 pm

      Hi Arubagirl!! Somehow, I had a sneaking suspicion you would give us your 2 cents worth about Joran and his book if you read it!! Are you back in Aruba from school yet?? How are the Aruban locals feeling about Joran now? Are they still blindly believing that Joran is innocent — or are they wising up?

    55. wandering on May 11th, 2007 9:33 pm

      here is somethng evil papa and spawn haven’t thought avout. Everyone is in the clear after 2 years, no matter what, really. Even if evidence is collected pointing to all then nothing is going to be pursued, therefore all involved are in the clear. Except, if deepak and satish are smark they’ll take their revenge on papa and son after the 2 year mark, and then kill papa and son for all the trouble that was brought their way. Even Nadira wanted to say what an evil ass the sloots are, but she knows she must wait till her boys are in the clear, and then retribution can be paid to the sloots by whoever feels like it, there will be nothing left to hang them with.

    56. wandering on May 11th, 2007 9:40 pm

      jurine looks at 12 and up, sounds suspiciously like the child molesting party of Holland, well that is all of Holland anyways, so I wonder if Paul and family will be celebrating with Julia’s daughter? we can only hope.

    57. david r on May 11th, 2007 10:02 pm

      The VDS clan is pure trash. If they lived in Texas we’d call them trailer trash. I hope OJ puts on his Bruno Magli’s and pays Joran a visit.

    58. katablog on May 11th, 2007 10:11 pm

      #55 no one is in the clear after 2 years. Aruba doesn’t have a statute of limitations on murder. The three Amigoes remain suspects for 2 years (or longer, as the Dutch may deem), and then if no evidence, they are no longer names as suspects.

      However, that doesn’t mean that when someone who knows what happens finally can’t live with themselves anymore and rats them all out – that they can’t be prosecuted. They can.

      When the Kalpoes discover that Dr. Phil is not their new found pot of gold, they may even decide the $250,000 is the best they can do.

    59. disgustedmom on May 11th, 2007 10:18 pm

      I wonder if Greta VS has read this book of Urine’s….if so I wonder if she still thinks he’s not a sociopath and is ‘innocent’.

      The summary of this book says it all. Urine disrepects, dehumanizes and uses females and he wants the world to know it. It makes him proud. And he sees nothing wrong with it. Sociopath! Probably secretly hates him mother because she didn’t like him being as wild and free as he wanted to be. Sure he did it anyway, but he had to hide it from Mommy and that caused him stress.. and that’s grounds for hating women in a sociopath’s mind.

      So he’s been doing this for years and like he said in one of his interviews, this time with Natalee was the only time something went wrong. What went wrong, Urine? Did she protest and make you mad? Was she not what you thought she was so that made her a ‘tease’ to you? So she had to be taught a lesson? A lesson that got out of hand? Or was it that after all your other times you got bored and decided to up your game with Natalee and kill her?

    60. Grace on May 11th, 2007 10:42 pm

      People who talk about how sick Joran is, etc., are sick themselves. They weren’t there and they do not know what happened there. All the snide remarks are nothing but snide remarks. Everyone doesn’t agree with you, however, Maggie, et al., have plainly said they won’t let messages on this blog if the person is writing in favor of Joran. Sounds like defamation of character to me. I have forwarded the blog to Aruba attorney about what was said about not letting my messages on. The reply was as I expected – “Sounds like defamation to me.” So, this isn’t a conversation, it is a witch hunt, by people who weren’t there and no nothing of what they speak.


      SM: Defamation? You better look up the definition. While you are at it you best tell the Aruban atty you gave this to to go back to law school as well.

      I am surprised you did not whine and complain about your First Amendment rights being violated. However, if you did then you would be wrong again as well. They only pertain to a public forum and the govt, not a private forum.

       ”… by people who weren’t there and no nothing of what they speak.”

      You may want to look at the not knowing what they speak comment and check out the closest mirror my friend. Although  your comment was good for comic relief.


    61. KrisG on May 11th, 2007 11:15 pm

      Wonder what Joe Tacopina thinks about Joran’s book. It sure refutes what he’s told us about that “sweet, sweet boy”. Even his volunteering was short lived.

    62. Miss-Underestimated on May 11th, 2007 11:27 pm

      I bet JT is hoping Joran sells alot of them to get his retainer fee.

    63. Jodi on May 11th, 2007 11:53 pm

      Good work monkeys! The trolls come out when you’re on to something! Whatcha so worried about grace? That the truth may surfacing and the house of cards might be about to fall? Why don’t you spend your time here doing something productive…like reading and absorbing some TRUTH!

    64. disgustedmom on May 11th, 2007 11:55 pm

      Regarding #60…why would anyone ‘who wasn’t there either’ get so upset that they can’t defend Joran on here? I don’t get it.

      But there really is no defense of Joran not being a womanizing jerk. He admits to it. He just doesn’t see anything wrong with his behavior. He thinks he’s doing good things, which is why he is sick in my book. What throws me for a loop though is people who agree with him and support his behavior…most likely like his dad and maybe even his mommy and probably most of the male population of Aruba.

      I’ve been following this case off and on and the one thing that has always upset me about too many people is their attitude that girls are playthings who just can’t live unless guys ‘give it up’. Male posters having that attitude I can grasp a bit, but some posters who think Joran’s behavior is OK and just Fine are female. This I don’t get at all.

    65. Mike on May 12th, 2007 12:11 am

      hey gracie,

      the SOB would have to have some character to defame it!! and i suppose you were there? how about telling us what happened then.

      Urine must have got all that information from pillow talk with miss greta.

    66. sirensong on May 12th, 2007 2:28 am

      Arubagirl, look at Jorans words again. He didn’t DATE anyone, he manipulated and possibly used alcohol and drugs on them. He is a predator. I love where he says in his book that all the girls wanted one night stands, but then says they didn’t trust him because they looked at his phone. HELLO! That says they were not just looking for sex. They thought they were special to him, because he lied to them. About EVERYTHING. He even manipulated his friends girlfriend into bed with him, then blames the girls: they are the one you can’t trust because they go to bed with anyone. Iwould imagine alot of his “friends” had nothing good to say about him, and are wondering themselves how he is getting away with murder.

    67. elisabeth on May 12th, 2007 4:36 am

      I have been inquiring about the F16 search. The ultrasensitive infrared method used to photograph the island seems to be a rather reliable way to find a body unburied or under sand. The method is even used to detect bodies from worldwar 2. You would not be able to eliminate caves and such.

    68. Richard on May 12th, 2007 9:24 am

      Crioyo (#35), I think that your comment is important.

      Indeed, it seems as though the “Pimps” did look upon themselves as a “privileged” group, not subject to the conventional social restraints.

      They were free to do what they wanted, in their own minds.

      The question is, how much did they want to get away with.

      Side note: Today is the 33rd birthday of Amy Bradley, kidnapped from a cruise ship off Curacao. Please take a moment and think of her. By a cruel irony, tomorrow is Mother’s Day.

      Natalee and Amy … we will never give up.

    69. 10061906 on May 12th, 2007 1:56 pm

      #67 The F16′s were not capable of finding anything smaller than a submarine. It was a hoax. The F16′s were on a mapping sorte and the ALE used it to their advantage. On the flight back to the Netherlands the US Air Force supplied in flight refueling as the F16 flight range is only about 1400 miles.

    70. Russ on May 12th, 2007 4:26 pm

      As terrible as this is, let me let you in on a little secret: American college kids characterize women the exact same way on a daily basis. Too many American girls are easy. Now, in light of the fact that he got away with murder, it is f&^ked up Joran is saying this.

    71. Tazman on May 12th, 2007 5:31 pm

      Those guys are UGLY!!!!

    72. Maggie on May 12th, 2007 7:48 pm

      # 60 Everyone doesn’t agree with you, however, Maggie, et al., have plainly said they won’t let messages on this blog if the person is writing in favor of Joran.

      Grace, I don’t have any say in what does or doesn’t go on this board, so I have no clue what you are talking about and doubt you do either.

      I have forwarded the blog to Aruba attorney about what was said about not letting my messages on. The reply was as I expected – “Sounds like defamation to me.”

      What a joke! The owners of this site have a right to let anyone post or not post if they want. Please show us the letter~! Waiting and hope we don’t have to wait as long as we have on Steve Cohen to tell us if that is Paulus in the casino.

      You want to favor Joran, go ahead, I don’t care if you believe the earth is hollow and the sun is square either, just don’t ask me to buy into it. You weren’t there either,so how do you know what did happen?! So tell me at what point do we start believing a self admitted pathological liar, who lies everyday. Don’t forget one of the first persons, who called Joran sick, was Deepak in a police statement.Joran’s great friend.

      First off show us anyone who has seen Natalee since she left CnC with those 3. Then provide us with anyone who saw Natalee at the beach other than the self confessed 3 liars.

      4 go out, 3 guys and a 105 lb. girl that he served a 151 rum to after closing time away from her friends, lied to her about himself, lied to her friends, and the 3 guys make it back just fine and the girl is never seen again.. Not Cool! and yes I believe IMO he is one sick person after all I’ve seen and read about him mostly out of his own mouth.

    73. jeremy on May 14th, 2007 12:23 am

      did anyone notice joran said his parents did not like
      him going to the casino,because they thought it was a
      waste of money.He also stated they thought it was addictive.
      Oddley later on he admitts his father was there that night
      and people thought it was paulus on on the video tape.
      strange could this be another lie

    74. Jessica on May 17th, 2007 11:46 pm

      After reading the excerpts from this piece of Craps book you can see at an early age the making of a SOCIOPATH. He makes me sick the way he looks at things and discusses on what a LIAR he was to his Parents. Explaining how he can look in another person’s eyes and can tell what they are thinking at a Poker game. He just comes across as a Cocky SOB who just paints himself in a VERY BAD Light to anyone that reads this book. He might have been a young man when he killed Natalee but a Very WISE OLD MAN in Lying, Deceiving and Manipulation. His Father that has knowledge of the Law he was a Master Criminal by the time this happened. Like the Old Saying Goes “IF THE FISH DOESN’T OPEN HIS MOUTH HE WON’T GET CAUGHT”. But I hope this lil Fish Gets His DAY!!!!
      AS Far as any AMERICAN visiting ARUBA since that day Natalee disappeared—YOU ARE A DISGRACE to what we all stand for.
      Maybe my next vacation should be IRAQ.

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