RSSRED summons Hirsch Ballin after bribery attempt Namdar in Aruba
In Aruba, the bribery case of H.J Namdar is getting rather interesting. Recently, RED, has been like a one party wrecking crew going after MEP and the Aruban governments improprieties. One wonders how far this investigation will go.
Amigoe; April 4, 2007: RED summons Hirsch Ballin after bribery attempt Namdar
ORANJESTAD – Rudy Lampe (RED) wants an international investigation in the Namdar case. On behalf of his party, he sent a letter to the Dutch Justice-minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin (CDA) on April 2nd, with the request to also involve the United States in this investigation. Lampe has sent the US consulate-general Robert Sorenson a copy of the letter.
He wrote in his letter that several MEP-ministers were mentioned in the letter of Namdar, including the name of former minister Glenbert Croes of OLA and former MEP-minister and currently the governor of Aruba. In his letter, Lampe points out article 43 of the Statute. He concludes his letter with the hope that this case will be investigated thoroughly.
Glenbert Croes said that only Michael Williams was aware of the content of Namdar’s letter and that none of the names mentioned in the letter were involved with the case, neither those of Ivan Strick (FOL) and Gerrit Schotte (ex-MPK and now MAN).
On Friday and Saturday William was interrogated for hours at the police station in Noord. His lawyer Duineveld said that he gave his view on the case. The police are especially interested in documentation on this case. According to unconfirmed reports, William has more compromising correspondence. He told the police that the letter he has published has nothing to do with the case in Curacao, where also government people had contact with Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and with Namdar, but those contacts are from last year November and not from before 2004, the year that surfaced in the letter of H.J. Namdar.
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Go, RED! (Of Scared Monkeys, that is.)
Sounds to me like he’s yelling the loudest to enhance his own power … so then HE can be the one getting the payoffs.
If international investigations are suddenly in vogue in Aruba, I could tell them about a missing American girl there and a government cover-up…. Let’s start there.
“On behalf his party” he sent a letter to the Dutch Justice-Minister………… What party?
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SM: RED party. RED = Red Eternal Democratico (klaasend)
http://tinyurl.com/yrd2ct
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Thursday, April 5, 2007
IS NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S CASE CLOSED?
And for that matter, is the case of Max DeVries still open?
Ms. DeVries has not received any of the final paper work from Aruba as I reported in an earlier post. As we all know, the Aruban Authorities have claimed repeatedly that once the two years statue expires, all documentation, declarations, and summary evidence is released to the Family and their Attorneys.
As we all know, the Aruban Authorities never lie and always tell the truth in regard to the laws of Aruba, how they are structured and how they are applied.
If the final paper work has not been received by Ms. DeVries, one could conclude that Max’s case is still open even though no one has investigated the case in almost three years. Or was it closed before she and her daughter left Aruba and the Aruban Authorities never did the ‘RIGHT THING’ and left her to languish? Looks like another instance of TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH. You draw your own conclusions.
During the filming of the Opsporing Verzocht re-enactment in the
Natalee Holloway case I noticed several oddities that give you the impression that the case is closed.
1. As Bloggers and Posters have noticed and commented on, why is the person portrayed as Joran Van Der Sloot not a Caucasian? The person portraying Joran Van Der Sloot appears to be of Arawak decent. This alone raises so many Red Flags that it’s impossible to imagine it was done by mistake. Who made the decision to allow this to happen?
If the objective was to get TIPS in the case, why wasn’t someone that closely resembled Joran Van Der Sloot used for this Oscar quality role?
2. In the Dutch Judicial System there are no JURIES, only Judges. Why did the program Opsporing Verzocht taint the population of Aruba and Holland’s overall perception of the character of Natalee Holloway? In the video, it is clear for all to see that the producers of this program attempted to portray Natalee Holloway as a person of less than upstanding moral character. The program implies that Natalee is flirty in the Carlos and Charlie’s scene even though there are no declarations to justify that account. WHY? I conclude it was to make anyone with information in the case to determine that ‘she deserved it’ and they might decide not to report what they knew.
3. The Program’s title is translated to ‘ARREST REQUESTED’, so you would naturally think that is the goal. How can you get information in a case when the information you are requesting is not based on accurate interpretation of the events?
4. Of all the tips received by Opsporing Verzocht, how many panned out and helped this case? We will probably never know the answer to that one.
5. What is the REAL intention of this type of programming when the overall format was skewed from the beginning? One could logically conclude that the purpose was to steer the investigation AWAY from Joran and Paulus Van Der Sloot based on the way the show was conducted, and the fact the Aruban Authorities confiscated the vehicle of Deepak Kalpoe for the filming of the program.
6. I have heard from the Dutch that the program is similar to America’s Most Wanted and has produced arrests and convictions. How did they get it so wrong in this instance? It can only be because it was scripted that way by people in both Holland and Aruba. The BIG difference in the two programs is John Walsh would never allow Nationalism to screw over a CRIME VICTIM. When that happens, it’s just more PROPAGANDA.
Justice Ministry Department Head Rudy Croes requested Holland’s involvement in the case of Natalee Holloway to deflect the blame in another direction. When there are no criminal charges files, those on Aruba will claim that they passed the case on to Holland and they made the final determination. There will be claims that we can not blame Aruba as the did the right thing by asking for assistance. This is total HOGWASH. They know it and we know it.
How can Holland make a TRUE FINAL determination in the case when the ALE altered Beth Twitty’s statement? How can Holland truthfully come to the correct conclusion when Joran Van Der Sloot’s initial declaration as a SUSPECT and not as a WITNESS was torn to pieces and thrown in the garbage by Dennis Jacobs as witnessed by Beth Twitty?
How can Holland get it RIGHT when one of their own appointed Judges blocked access to the Van Der Sloot main residence during the search on 6-15-2005 by stating that he was a ‘guest’ of Paulus and Anita Van Der Sloot at the residence and it would be an imposition?
I discuss this case with many people. I have one friend that is convinced that Holland will do the ‘RIGHT THING’ and at the last minute arrest the main suspects in Natalee’s case. He has much more faith in the Dutch than I. He believes that Holland will slam this case on the main suspects based on the WIRETAPS. If he is correct, it should be a slam dunk. The words of the main suspects in the case and not under duress would go along way to assure a speedy conviction. Again, he is much more optimistic than I.
Is Natalee’s case closed? You decide.
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JUSTICE 4 NATALEE
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Hey, it was Rudy Lampe who requested an international investigation in regards to the Natalee Holloway case. Obviously, the “powers that be” in Aruba did not comply with his request. After all, an independent investigation would implicate Paulus and Joran in the events that encompass the morning that Natalee Holloway went missing and … would expose those within the Aruban investigation who were involved in a coverup … a coverup that was denying an American citizen justice and … an anguished family a measure of closure.
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Amigoe
11/12/2005
ARUBA – RED has requested an independent and international investigation on the entire development in the matter of the disappeared Natalee Holloway. The request was made during the emergency Parliament meeting on the appeal to boycott Aruba. According to Rudy Lampe, this is the only way to get the Americans to have confidence in the integrity of the OM and the police corps again. You won’t achieve this by saying how beautiful Aruba is. That the Americans have doubt is due to the fact that the main suspects in this case were walking around free for 10 days; the public conflict between the Attorney General and the Chief Public Prosecutor; the fact that the Attorney General has prohibited the Chief Public Prosecutor to give statements; the statements of the investigation teams towards the Holloway family. “If you can prove that the level of integrity is high, you don’t have to be afraid when a foreign instance investigates this. It can only help you”, said Lampe.
Translation Credit: GETAGRIP
a dutch newspaper last summer printed a report from the dutch national police stating that aruba’s minister of justice had consistently blocked dutch investigations into white collar crime, trans drug shipments, transhipments of terrorist funds into south america, and in the natalee holloway case. i don’t see how it can get much plainer than that, folks.
dennisintn
Ya know Dennis, all of this continuous focus on Aruba
has to be bad for the drug business. They hate
attention like this, it really throws a wrench in the
operations!
It makes me wonder when they’ll decide
enough is enough and take Paulus, Joran, and the
two Poes out? There will come a time, to me it seems…
when even the druggies will be of the opinion
they’re bringing the neighborhood down!
Drug Lords don’t give you an eviction notice.
You are assigned a new position,
>> inspecting the insides of a dumpster. -j4n
Nice he wants to get the US involved when it involves money, Wonder if the lawyers will go to court to keep the US and the FBI out like Paulus did in Natalee’s case.
Borrowed from post #5 above, this says it all!!!! … “If you can prove that the level of integrity is high, you don’t have to be afraid when a foreign instance investigates this. It can only help you”, said Lampe.
Can you all say C-O-R-R-U-P-T-I-O-N, Shout it!
Anyone from Aruba is untrustworthy, show me otherwise. Every time I thought they might do the appropriate action they did the opposite. They seem cold-blooded to me and out for Aruba only.
One thing I did like was when Dompig said, The boys are guilty as hell.
Carpe!!!! DAYUM!!!
You are RIGHT ON!!!!!
Maggie – did you know that the FBI had/has every legal right to pursue this case to the conclusion on the island of Aruba or elsewhere? The FBI chose to back down. Whether Aruba(can’t be an individual) tried to enforce their sovereign rights or not, it is irrelevant. Ever hear of “Authority Of The Federal Bureau Of Investigation To Override International Law In Extraterritorial Law Enforcement Activities”.
Why did the US back down to Aruba?
Hey Allan!
Dompig also said
“We’ve looked in other directions and ALL ROADS ALWAYS LEAD BACK TO THESE THREE SUSPECTS”
13. Yoyo
Apparently the FBI cannot intervene in the Natalee Holloway investigation without an invitation from the Arubans. However, once the investigation is closed … the FBI is then in a position to intervene … to investigate the investigation. Yoyo … in November, 2005 … RED put forth a motion to bring in an international team of investigators to take over the Natalee Holloway case. However, the motion was not passed.
Jug Twitty – On the Record w/ Greta
TWITTY: … Well, the way the system works down here, when the case is closed, we will have all that information, and we can release it to the world.
Art Wood – ‘Rita Cosby Live & Direct’
WOOD: There’s a lot that Americans can do through the State Department. I want to remind everybody that Natalee Holloway was a U.S. citizen. Once the Aruban authorities are done investigating this case, the FBI can still conduct an investigation, and they could extradite these suspects to the United States. Let me point out that there’s a ton of circumstantial evidence in this case to convict these kids.
Art Wood – Dana Petzer Show
WOOD: The family of Natalee needs to put pressure on the US attorney in Birmingham to push the FBI to conduct an investigation after ALE close the case. We have a treaty that allows the FBI to pursue a violation of civil rights of an American citizen there.
#13…. We’ve got this law in SC that says we can beat our spouses as long as it’s done on the steps of the courthouse…use to be a big joke…but people use to swear it was still on the books…Point being, you won’t see anybody invoking their rights to that law as their butts will end up in jail. As for the FBI backing out of Aruba, everything I ever heard about Paulus had him fighting FBI presence but they were there nonetheless…As for the guards we talked about last week, I guess they had to be silenced….an arrest will do that…..Perhaps for what they knew. I read that once, they (Security guards) had the same lawyer but the lawyer dropped one of them due to a conflict of interest….Makes you think? Maybe those guys aren’t as innocent as one might be led to believe.
Janet – here’s the first paragraph, you tell me if I’m wrong: At the direction of the President or the Attorney General, the FBI may use its statutory authority to investigate and arrest individuals for violating United
States law, even if the FBI’s actions contravene customary international law. The President, acting through the Attorney General, has the inherent constitutional authority to deploy the FBI to investigate and arrest individuals for violating United States law, even if those actions contravene customary international law. Extraterritorial law enforcement activities that are authorized by domestic law are not barred even if they contravene unexecuted treaties or treaty provisions, such as Article 2(4) of the
United Nations Charter. An arrest that is inconsistent with international or foreign law does not violate the Fourth
Amendment.
Again, why would the US choose to back off? Is it because they deem what was and currently is being done “ok”? Or something else…
They (FBI) probably did not want
mud splattered up on their
car doors… from an EVIL island
that was clearly operating
behind the scenes to sabotage
the Natalee Ann Holloway case.
Who ya hang out with, makes all the
difference in the word, man.
I mean, just look no further than Joran Van der sloot “The UnCaptured Aruban Rapist / Murderer” to confirm that one!
It is like sleeping with Renfro. Lay down with dogs,
wake up with a wicked case of “oochie coochie
klap wanta!” –j4n
#17…Or perhaps both. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t curious but they ain’t there no more….I reckon….Quick question…Does Aruba want U.S. help? Have they asked recently for U.S. assistance…Case surely looks like it’s not going anywhere. I find it hard to believe the Justice department wouldn’t do so iffn Aruba and the Holloways requested it….or, maybe I’m just naive that way.
The Aruban Nightmare will never
end, until there is JUSTICE at the end
of the day, for a one Miss Natalee Ann Holloway!
***SIMPLE AS DAT –
FOR DAT IS THE TRUTH.
Aruba, I will try and say this as RESPECTFULLY,
as only I can…
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“Get On Your Knees And Lick It, You Slimy Piece Of
T-R-O-L-L Bait!”
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You’ve picked the wrong battle to plant your flag this time.
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…and this is what we’ve been sayin’ to ya.
http://tinyurl.com/2zga6g
http://tinyurl.com/yv64td
http://tinyurl.com/2bzfeo
-j4n
but my conclusion is …this site sucks bigtime
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SM: This post was NOT made by Roy, it was made by someone that will be banned (klaasend)
We know that the FBI said early in the case that they weren’t being utilized, and that nobody in Aruba was being honest with them. Whatever the treaties may state, if Aruba won’t cooperate with the FBI, and I don’t think they will, they wouldn’t be able to get to first base down there.
Sounds to me like this brouhaha that Rudy Lampe is engaged in is pretty much party politics. The outs blame the ins until they become the ins, whereupon the same stuff goes on.
Is there any quick guide available as to what the Aruban political parties are? One wouldn’t think there would be that many on a small island, but obviously there are.
Well Roy, iffn you thinkin’ it sucks… do not
let the ***RETURN KEY*** hit you in the a$$,
bubba.
There are more out there ya know… hurry, before
my girl Mayan tosses ya a brick.
Happy Googlin’
*throws Anita’s wet nasty bra on Roy’s head*
Is that how all those snorkler’s drown in Aruba?
ROFL!!!!!!!! Mayan
“That’s SKEEEEEEEEEEEERY!” -Robots
lol i always laugh when Robots says
quote Jipshit “i was skeeeeeeeerd”
think of all the snorkler’s we could save!
#22 Richard – The FBI doesn’t need cooperation from Aruba. But it’s all a moot point about cooperation previously & currently. Since PJ2K are clearly 100% guilty of the kidnap/rape/murder of Natalee, as ya’ll say, why hasn’t the FBI used the info that has been “websleuthed” and arrested all those involved. The FBI has every right to do that. Why won’t they? The FBI has the authority to arrest all those involved right now. Is it because they don’t believe “lack of evidence is evidence” or is it something else.
YoYo: The USA FBI, regardless of what you believe, has no authority over non-USA citizens in foreign countries.
I just still can’t get over why…
Paulus & Joran Van der Sloot would actually
go to court to keep USA LAW ENFORCEMENT out
of the Natalee Holloway Case. When they claim
they’ve always told the truth and want everything
out in the open for all to see!
Because they are so innocent, right?
Joran did it. Paulus helped bury it. The two
Poes know, and they still haven’t told because
they think they’re going down for the rape portion.
You God awful cretans. I have no sympathy for you
whatsoever for what you have done. You all are
completely responsible for where you find yourselves
today, and believe me when I tell you, it is going
down not up. Sleep well tonight. -j4n
YoYo, You are once again misinformed. The FBI does not have the right to arrest citizens in other countries except in matters of national security.
And even then, it is not done as a matter of routine. Each nation is supposed to be able to handle civilian crimes of this nature and seldom does one encounter a government so totally inept and corrupt that it refuses as the government of Aruba has done.
So you are just mistaken about the FBI intervening in matters of a criminal nature in foreign countries. Technically, the FBI is for operations only on American soil (including our embassies) and it would be the CIA on foreign soil but as I said, this is not done in instances of individual criminal activity and would especially not be done with an ongoing investigation.
Now once the suspects are released and the case closed, you might see a whole different ballgame. I surely hope so. Just put those little rapist on a night flight to an unknown destination in Egypt or one of the Slavic countries for a few rounds of interrogation and see if Joran changes his story again.
BTW, is it true the Sporter isn’t even attending school any more? Gee, I wonder what could have happened with such a brilliant honor student. I was so sure he would ace all the most difficult course The Netherlands had to offer, being so intelligent and all. You don’t suppose that’s just his parents assessment, do you? Sure looks that way because he can’t even tell the same story twice. Dumb as a box of rocks!
And anywhere else would not need outside assistance in such an overt and obvious case. This would have taken about three days to wrap up. So just be patient and see what happens once these suspects are released. You might yet see some activity on the part of the FBI. And the only time they just back off and give up is when dealing with a third world country so backward as to be hopeless such as South Africa under apartheid or a nation in such a primitive state as to be beyond the norms of civilization. Oh, but that would be Aruba, wouldn’t it? Charter member of The Turd World.