“Nanny Government” … California No Spanking Bill on its way to your Home


So now the Government wants to come into your home and tell you whether or not you canNospank spank your child. Because politicians are supposed to know how to raise your children better than you. Yes, “nanny government” is on its way to invade the sanctity of your homes California. Define irony … when a parent can get sentenced to more jail time for reprimanding their child than a convicted child molester like in Vermont. Is that irony, or just disgustingly pathetic?

Assemblywoman Sally Lieber, a Mountain View Democrat who is crafting the measure, said corporal punishment is victimizing helpless children and contributing to a society “addicted to violence.” (Sac Bee)

Not just spanking, but slapping, smacking, whacking or kicking also would be outlawed. A society addicted to violence. As opposed to a government addicted to interfering in people’s personal lives where they don’t belong? This isn’t even a matter of being pro or against spanking a child. Its a matter of government staying the hell out of our personal lives.

Lieber said passage of her bill could prompt a supermarket shopper, for example, to approach a fellow shopper who is spanking a child and warn, “That’s against the law in California.”

It is already a crime to abuse, hurt or injure children. Maybe the government should pass Slapping_farnsworthharsher laws against those that would hurt, molest or sexually assault children. There’s an idea. We are all for protecting children, a no spanking law is hardly the answer.

What a novel concept that we actually go after the predators who harm children and leave parents alone who wish to raise their children as they see fit. Maybe the answer is that if a “no spank” bill is passed … can we in turn slap the politicians?

57% would oppose such a bill, while only 23% would support it. The real question, aside from the absurdity of the bill, how does one enforce it? Is there a certain severity of spanking? Paul Henderson, SF DA, shows the ridiculousness of the bill. He is for a “no spanking” law, yet he states … “If you’re going to spank your child, you need to know the limit.” What limit? Doesn’t no mean no? So there is a limit to how hard you can spank, slap, smack, whack or kick? Are we supposed to have color codes to spanking like terrorism threat levels?

The proposed law would make spanking a child under 3 misdemeanor child abuse, an extension of current corporal punishment laws.

Violators could spend a year in jail, and pay up to $1000 in fines. Enforcement is unclear.

San Francisco assistant district attorney Paul Henderson prosecutes child abuse cases, and he welcomes a no spanking law.

“If you’re going to spank your child, you need to know the limit,” said Henderson, “and you need to know that doing it in a way that’s cruel or traumatic causes injury, and that you could be prosecuted.”

The good people of CA can tell her what you think of this bill here. (Keep it polite & clean).

Posted January 19, 2007 by
Child Welfare, Crime, Politics, WTF | 17 comments

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    17 Responses to ““Nanny Government” … California No Spanking Bill on its way to your Home”

    1. driving miss daisy on January 19th, 2007 3:29 am

      That’s what’s wrong with the world today, lack of discipline. No one wants to take responsibility for their actions and parents are certainly not about to blame their children for anything wrong when they can blame the government, the teachers, their friends, their neighbors, their doctors, the food suppliers, the medical suppliers, the church, the local drug store, anyone but themselves.

    2. Rammstein on January 19th, 2007 5:09 am

      a corrective tap should not be banned IMHO, but slapping a child around, smacking, kicking etc. does indeed seem behaviour that should be banned from modern society.

      Tests have shown (granted, televised ones) that children when punished correctly will respond to non-physical punishments just fine. Rewarding the positive in children seems very effective in rooting out unwanted behaviour.

      Making your child frightened of you as a parent will in the long run not lead to the desired effect IMHO.

    3. Miss-Underestimated on January 19th, 2007 8:37 am

      Look around right now we are seeing the ramifications of a permissive society (anything goes, escpecially child predators and rapists) Child abuse is one thing, punishment in the form of a smack on the butt is another.

    4. Miss-Underestimated on January 19th, 2007 9:16 am

      Hey Sally, who is going take care of the kids when ma and pa are in the pokey?

    5. Chris on January 19th, 2007 9:41 am

      Poor Sally! Did she not get enough education? Did she forget how this country was founded and the only reason it exists? VIOLENCE! This country wasn’t handed over peacefully by the natives. Its roll as a superpower wasn’t on accident. People fought bled and suffered horribly for this country. So we could be a free people. Free to raise our children as we see fit! We dishonor their sacrifices when we pass laws like the one proposed here.

      Have we as a nation lost all sense of reason? A spank never hurt, it scared the hell out of us, but it never hurt. We were more upset that we disappointed our parents than we were of the spanking.

      Grow up and toughen up Sally.

    6. chloe on January 19th, 2007 9:54 am

      This will be another law that will not be enforced. Child abuse is already illegal and we can see how well those laws are enforced. We need to focus on the serious offenders and revamp the child welfare so that kids that are in real danger can get help. And by the way, I’m not of the mindset that that spanking is productive by any means. I wouldn’t want a bigger person whooping on me. It would scare the heck out of me.

    7. dennisintn on January 19th, 2007 10:07 am

      under the california plan, bless their little hearts, child predators will be given community service hours to work instead of jail time. this work will be done in childcare facilities to care for the children whose parents are doing jail time for spanking them.

    8. Miss-Underestimated on January 19th, 2007 11:11 am


      You should email Sally and ask her that question.
      How many kid’s po’d at their parents will call 911, because they don’t get their way?

    9. nurturer on January 19th, 2007 11:38 am

      From what I’ve seen and read, Californians are stupid enough to go for this. Being led like sheep is the order of the day for them. If it weren’t possible to get it passed, Sally wouldn’t try it. Try this this crap in Okalahoma, and see how popular you become and how fast.

      And of course, in 20 years, California will have the highest crime rate in the nation. And where will Sally be in 20 years?

    10. Miss-Underestimated on January 19th, 2007 12:25 pm

      California having problems control medicinal reefer, weed, mar-g-wanna. Made news last nite.

    11. momee617 on January 19th, 2007 1:10 pm

      Don’t lump all Californians together. This is an asinine law. I am not particularly for spanking, but it needs to be my choice as a parent. DISCIPLINE is key to all the problems everyone is having with their kids. You have to be consistent and enforce the rules. This state definitely comes up with some stupid ideas, but it isn’t the only one with problems. It would be nice if the morons that are elected would take care of the real issues instead of trying to justify their existence by coming up with this garbage. That said, I am leaving California in the summer and won’t look back. : )

    12. Tekmastr on January 21st, 2007 11:59 am

      Where to start?
      The ills of society are to be laied at the feet of the parents but when we all don’t have a PhD in child raising we should not be allowed to have children. If they do, then the government should take charge of child since the it know what is best for all of us.
      Most new politians come into office with an agenda but not always the one that they were elected for. This topic must be of major concern for Sally, was she abused as a child? Were here parents cruel and didn’t give her what she wanted. Remember, the child has the best knowledge of what is good for them and the parent knows nothing.
      Can we afford this increase in criminals, Califorina is exporting their conficts to other states since we don’t have the facilities for all of them.
      Child Protective Services doesn’t have enough to do, so lets put the Web cam into the house to monitor all of the actions of the family.
      The older 14 year old is made at the parent and so calls CPS that their parent are spanking the younger children. Parent go to jail and now we have more kids in the system. Did you put in the bill the money to take care all the new criminals and foster children this will create?

      Sally, are you mad at your parents for swatting your behind when your were younger, did they use excessive force, or did they make you so mad that you wantto make the rest of the world suffer.


    13. Kimberley Gregory on January 23rd, 2007 9:34 am

      I just read a recently released Vanderbilt University study on child dicpline which sowed only 8% of American parents even use spanking as a rule.

      So why pass a law that only affects such a small portion of the public?

      Simple, in Family Court custody (including CPS) cases – where false allegations as as common as houseflys – here’s yet annother unprovable way to escalate conflict and increase legal fees. Nice going!!!

    14. UnemployedWASP on January 28th, 2009 11:13 am

      The Marxist University Archipelago must be dismantled and the American education system restored.


    15. Paper Doll on November 21st, 2010 9:24 am

      Hi I’m from Australia and I have been spanked a lot of times growing up. I think now, thank God my Parents cared enough to correct my bad behaviour before it turned into something more serious and landed me into jail or caused others unhappiness or even injury. Unfortunately, in Australia we have a lot of people “Do Gooders” and “anti-spank attitudes” whom like to interfer with another’s personal life and how they bring up their kids. These irrating people whom cause me much disgust, forget they do not give birth, provide food, schooling, a safe environment, clothing, housing, health care, comfort nor even support to these children etc. Thus, these interferers should plain be ignored in socieity. No one should have the right to tell another person how to discipline their child, be allowed to have a person arrested or even being fined for spanking. Further, were such laws and attitudes exist, how can the responsibility of child discipline be directed at the parents when their is so much interferance from “Do Gooders”, anti-spank people, teachers, police and government officials. It is irrational and down right foolish to point the finger at parents when a minority of society is in the no spanking mind frame.

    16. Jenny on November 21st, 2010 10:09 am

      I’m from the western part of Sydney NSW Australia and believe in spanking as a discipline. I find their is a “dam if I do, and dam if I don’t” occuring between parents to those whom are anti-spank portion of the population. in one hand our society wants parents to discipline their kids, were as their is a irrational side of the people against spanking and even discipline in general, whom will go out of their way to place parents in jail, have them fined, their kids taken of them and even go out of their way to have their personal life’s invaded. Thus, as a result I find parents,couples and singles are stating: this is why I don’t want kids, their are waste of time, waste of effort, society is making kids a enemy of their parents, they will bring shame and disgust on our name/family, their expensive, I don’t care they can do what they like, since the government knows what’s best for them they can look after them, society is causing kids disobedence and all that time in labour in giving birth to them and suddently someone tells me how I should discipline them “not worth my while” etc. Thus, these are only a few of the things I have heard and experience because of anti-spank discipline portion of the population in low and high places in society.

    17. lynn on July 29th, 2013 3:17 pm

      Spanking is ok but beating is not.

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