RSSBeth Twitty Speaks at Women’s Economic and Empowerment Summit in Sylacauga, AL
Beth Twitty keeps the story of Natalee Holloway alive as well as tries to empower woman 
and their communities. Aruba wonders why the story does not go away. It is because Beth Twitty does not go away. Beth Twitty discusses her “International Safe Travels Foundation” and her daughter Natalee. As she speaks to more and more people the message is twofold and similar to other woman’s message on empowerment, be aware and protect yourself.
The summit will feature female leaders from state government and the media.
The second annual summit is a ministry of the newly-formed Life of Destiny International Church in Childersburg. Church pastor Ivan Harris said the summit is going to cover a variety of subjects applicable to women’s lives. These include economic issues, marriage and family topics, health and domestic violence.
In addition to Holloway-Twitty, the lineup includes Alabama First Lady Patsy Riley; NBC 13 news anchor Gina Redmond; WTTO Channel 21 personality Tara Gray; Mrs. America 2005 Julie Love Templeton; Paije Frazier radio host for “Look, Hope and Expect;” Trudy Phillips, former executive director of the Central Alabama Women’s Business Center; Dr. Kim Clay of Imani Health Group in Atlanta; and Kathleen Wells, director of the Alabama Coalition Against Domestic Violence. (Daily Home)
At every venue Beth Twitty has an opportunity to have a new individual hear the story of Natalee Holloway. Everyone thinks they know the story until they hear it first hand. As Beth Twitty once said to me, “people come up to me after a speak and tell me they thought they knew the whole story because they watched it on the news. The state, I never knew it was really like what you just said.” Thus the story of Natalee Holloway and Aruba is spread to others, and so on and so on and so on.
Posted October 9, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Beth Holloway, Child Welfare, International Safe Travels Foundation, Media, Natalee Holloway | 97 comments |
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Gods hand is on this woman, Beth Holloway-Twitty; guiding her with strength and courage to find the answers she so desperately deserves.
Everytime I see Beth my heart breaks. Beth Twitty, who had her daughter ripped away from her family by the animals that live in Aruba looking to take advantage of the young tourists that get enticed into visiting this “One Happy Island” vacation getaway is now just another victim.
It’s just “One happy Island” to the happy predators that, with the help of their government, allowed them to prey on unsuspecting tourists.
The VanDerSloots brought it all to international attention. Apparently the VanDerSloots, with the support of the Aruban Govt, and assistance of the Dutch are going to finally get away with Murder.
Aruba is the modern day Alamo, this cesspool of slime, taking advantage of their tourist trade will never be the same. Americans will never forget what the VanDerSloots, with the backing of the Aruban Govt did to Natalee Holloway.
Go Beth, take it to the hoop lady!
Aruba – Bonbini up on this.
muah!
http://tinyurl.com/p5oy8
J4N
God’s hand is with Beth.I don’t think of aruba as the Alamo,I think of it something with dishonor.Dancinbare
God Bless Beth Twitty.May she one day know the fate of her beautiful daughter.I will always support Beth,and discourage travel to Aruba!This case is a travisty,simply unblieveble.Is there no justice for Natalee?Sure looks that way.One day Beth ,one day we will know.Beth your strength will prevail!You are always in my thoughts and prayers.You are an icon of a mom,good luck.
Any word on the Dutch??? Seems like they are in week 3 and they haven’t begun the process of voiding judgements made to protect and insulate Paulus from this case.
Can any Dutch folks reading this site explain why Dutch Investigators are dragging their feet?
Please don’t give me the ‘They need to understand all of the facts’. Here are the facts that require voiding the judgements:
1) Judges who made the Judgements were Buddies of Paulus
2) Buddies with Conflict of Interest need to excuse themselves.
3) Paulus’ black robed buddies ruled on cases where there was conflict of interest.
That’s it….now get to voiding the judgements Dutchies!!!
Paulus is your perp. md
Carpe:
Your funny pics are priceless!
This case is very simple to see that:
Holloway/Twitty’s = Good
Vandersloots, et al = Evil
You’re either on one side or the other.
The last thing that the Vandersloots, et al ever expected was that this intelligent, beautiful, lovely young lady had so much love for her from her family and friends and the rest of us that what has happened to her will never be forgotten. The 3 pervs and the lives of their families have all been ruined. Even the judicial system of Aruba has been ruined. The travel industry is feeling the negative effects and I hope they feel it way more. So many people have supported Natalee, Beth and Dave that this crime against Natalee and the cover-up of the 3 pervs and J’s father has cast an evil shadow over ArubA. Take a trip to Aruba? You’ve gotta be kidding. Its got a worse reputation than Jamaica did a few years ago. You can tell me that the travel industry is up and the building of Aruba is up but Aruba still has no appeal to me or any of my family and there are many of us.
The criminals thought that signaling out a tiny blonde girl was going to be easy for them. Were they ever wrong. Beth, Dave, their families and the rest of Natalee’s supporters are her voice and the voice of other victims and/or potential victims of those evil people.
JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED FOR NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY!!
Aruba and Arubans…continue to seek for nothing less than the truth. That is where true freedom lies. NOT among the lies of those who caused this tragedy. Seek judgment without partiality and you will find you already have your culprits. Joran and his father cannot continue to pay people off just to secure their own protection. It will not work. TRUTH will prevail in the end. My prayers and support continue for Beth. She has inner beauty that shines through just in the mention that she continues to seek for justice for those who hurt/killed her intelligent daughter, Natalee.
Whatever happened, I agree that Aruba merits a tourist boycott and a determined campaign to promote that. The question is, what can those of us who remain convinced do to promote that? How can we keep the public concerned?
I hope Beth continues to go from town to town, school to school and always remembers to state that the last time Natalee was seen was in ARUBA with the three perps.
Always – Always tell where Natalee was last seen ARUBA
Richard, keep praying and spread the word. To everyone you meet. I put the boycott aruba stickers wherever I go, I write it on the “FREE BAHAMA CRUISES” cardboard. Wear your BOYCOTT ARUBA bumper stickers on your cars or trucks… Most of all, never forget.
On another note, I woke up at 4am in NC while I was traveling, and on the weather channel was an ad for Aruba. We need to address that. I thought it was funny that lieruba was paying for commercial airtime and it was at 4am when no one watches TV.
Beth, God bless you. You have such class and stamina. You are my hero and inspiration. My life is better from just knowing about you. Please stay strong and know that God does answer prayers.
Vicki I have no clue where this originated but
on cash was “boycott Aruba” in red ink.
That gets your attention.
THE SUSPECTS, ALL FOUR OF THEM WILL FOREVER BE BRANDED AS
RAPISTS AND MURDERERS.
SDave
Think about that, anywhere these guys will be, if there is ever another missing girl like Natalee Holloway, the suspision will always be on them.
How would you like to be the parents of the bride to one of these guys?
I wonder in Aruba if there is discomfort among the residents that the one suspect visits and the other two still live on the island.
Miss u, I have also written on money…every chance i get. I use my debit card alot, but when money crosses my hand, I write BOYCOTT ARUBA on it. I can only hope it was one of mine…From Florida to you. Keep the BOYCOTT strong, NOONE should ever go to that drug infested Island until it is cleaned up and we have JUSTICE FOR NATALEE and her family and friends.
Arubanese, Please forgive us our comments. I just get so angry and sad when I think that Natalee could have been anyone of our children. We all were duped thinking that Lieruba was a safe and happy Island. Now we know different. Its not only Natalee, she just brought all of the filth out, but what about that little girl, just going to school to learn when she gets attacked and raped, and then pigs record it and she has to leave the Island. What is that all about. Is there no common decency there?
Vicki
I think the citizens of Aruba are hardworking and deserve better than the ALE that they have. Let’s face it, I wonder how their own citizens are treated, if they treat guests to their island as they have treated Natalee Holloway and her family.
They have a rather large jail in Aruba, in comparison to the population. To keep the citizens in check?
miss u, there would never be a wedding ! maybe a funeral though ! it’s hard for me to believe these criminals are free to walk around.
I heard someting about this girl being raped does anyone know the whole story?
Vicki
Maybe we should notify NOW about the girl getting raped and recorded and then sent off the island. Does anyone have a link to the story?
Vicki,
I understand you 100%. I am in no position to forgive anyone here. I am not a God to forgive anyone. It is we Arubans that should ask God for forgiveness to what we have put this woman thru. If you want to boycott Aruba, it’s your money and your decision and you should stand behind what you believe is the right thing. I can only respect you and your fellow americans opinion about Aruba and actions to boycot Aruba. I have no hard feelings towards any of you.
From your Aruban friend Arubaanse.
I don’t know the whole story about this girl but i am going to ask my mother if she knows more about it cuz she lives there. So, I take it that she must know something.
Thank you Arubaanse
Beth, it’s four steps forward in bringing forth justice for Natalee… every speaking engagement brings you closer to a resolution. That is what I think…. Aruba is feeling the crunch and will continue to.
Here here
Arubaanse!
This case has dragged on like some awful nightmare
out of a Stephen King creation. It has at times
angered and frustrated people on both sides.
At the end of the day, after the sun sets…
… it has always been about a human thing.
-Not an American thing
-Not a Dutch thing
-and not an Aruban thing.
IT’S BEEN ABOUT A DAUGHTER,
NIECE or your SISTER… it has been
about
Natalee the P E R S O N…
not Natalee the American.
——-
and if the anti-boycott want to flip that last sentence
or two on me to say: why the boycott then? – don’t even
TRY IT.
It was the last tool in the toolbox. Nobody wanted it
to go that far. Sometimes you have to do what you have to
do to drop the hammer & get the job done.
Justice 4 Nat
Today is day #498
http://tinyurl.com/q8xko
Oh Carpe, That poster brings us right back to the beginning, I can’t believe it has been 498 days.
God be with you Natalee Holloway and grace you family with the strenght to follow this case thru.
Aruba return Natalee Holloway to her family
The story about the Aruban schoolgirl, who was assaulted and raped by her schoolmates and others, is somewhere on this forum. It was, anyway; that’s where I read it.
I don’t know if there’s a way to search here for past articles. Forum masters?
Every envelope that I send out has a “Justice for Natalee/Boycott Aruba” sticker on it, the one with Natalee’s picture. But this passive behavior, while helping keep the case alive in people’s memories (the post office people know me now once they see these stickers!), won’t really galvanize public opinion.
How do we go about organizing a movement to hold an event at the Dutch Embassy? Shouldn’t we be doing this NOW, before they find a pretext to say “case closed”?
Day 498……This is just perw stupidity on the part of the Aruban and Dutch law enforcement. Its a given that the Aruban law enforcement covered this up, but the thing that pisses me off is that the damn Dutch team said it would be done with in three weeks. Well guess what dip shits…….Its been three weeks. Whats wrong? Cant figure out a way to put a new spin on it with the same result? Heres a novel idea, do your damn job and make everyone happy! But we all know that wont happen! And we thought you were going to be smarter than the Arubans. Guess they needed someone to row the boat your both in. Now we can just hope it sinks by the light house where the sharks are!
Hey Dutch and Aruba law enforcement. Let us all know when you get that boat your both in rowed around to the light house so we can chum the water for the invisible sharks. Sure there hungry, but doubt they would want rotten meat bags such as yourselves!
Everyone, make sure you read Richard’s post #26.
Arubaanse,
You are a class act, and I truly appreciate your input on this forum.
I don’t think JVDS or Paulus sleeps well at night or the Kalpoes, when they turn out the light, they know what they did and Beth Twitty does also. They also know, that Beth knows. That’s why they try to degrade her just like they did Natalee, to try to ease their minds. Peace of mind will never come to them as long as they carry it with them. Those days are gone for them. They will always see Natalee and what they did, everywhere they go. Joran’s words about Beth’s boycott was to cause hatred towards her. His words about Natalee was cause hatred towards her and her mom.
They go to a bar completely sober at almost closing time when they know others have been drinking for awhile and when everyone’s leaving they make their move. I’ve been to enough concerts and places to see the crowds when everyone’s leaving at once, what kind of mass confusion it is and how easy it easy to become separated from others in the group. Not to mention many are intoxicated at CnC at closing time. Beth said Natalee never seen Deepak or Satish that night. They were the taxi to go back to the Holiday Inn. Why wouldnt she trust Joran? He worked hard that night to win their trust, talking to them and winning back money for a reason. He lied to them about his age and some said he told he was a soccer player from Holland. Noone has Natalee acting weird or strange until they enter the picture, why wouldn’t everyone believe she was drugged. Noone’s character changes 360 degrees for no reason. JVDS is the master liar. I don’t think he even knows the truth from fiction anymore in life. 20 times before at least, they’ve did this. 20 times before a 17 year old goes out and they prey on young unsuspecting female tourists. People don’t go out on consensual dates and disappear forever. 3 Innocent single males don’t need to lie for 16 months either about a missing girls last minutes. She had no money, no passport, no food, no clothes,no phone, no personel items, no transportation in a foreign country. No trace of her in the Kalpoe’s car, they cleaned it. No trace of her clothes, or shoes. Someone went to a lot of trouble to hide her body due to evidence? They will see that sh*t if they find her? Someone went to a lot of trouble get rid of every trace of her night out after leaving CnC. Joran’s shoes story, lied about the size, lied why he took them off, lied that he didn’t want to go by Natalee to get them after he said he left them nowhere near Natalee. Why is Joran going to get 15 years if they find her, if he just left her on the beach. Not one witness to corroborate anything they say after leaving CnC. Not one person who seen them after they left CnC. Not one person seen them on the beach. None of their stories match. None of their stories match how Joran got home. Why look anywhere else the answers are right there. Paulus is leading their sing a long.
Beth I admire your courage and strength. Don’t know what I would do if someone took my only daughter from me, then lied to the world and to my face about her. Natalee was every parents dream of what they want a daughter to be, the other 4 are every parents nightmare of who their daughters might meet.
Richard, GREAT POST!! I agree !! Sitting here posting is not accomplishing ANYTHING !!!!!!!
Sharon, post #23, I agree. We are much closer today than 1 year ago !!!!!!!
Why lie about this stuff?
June 24th. Satish statement..
Deepak and I have known Joran for approximately A YEAR. I’VE KNOWN JORAN LONGER, a little longer than a year.
Joran ..Greta’s interview ..He’s only knew Deepak 2 or 3 months and he knew Deepak before he knew Satish.
VAN SUSTEREN: How old is Deepak? How much older is he than you are?
VAN DER SLOOT: Deepak’s 21.
VAN SUSTEREN: How do you know him?
VAN DER SLOOT: I met him a long time ago through a friend of mine. And now — and since then, we’ve been friends — never best friends or anything like that, but you know, we’ve — we hung out together and sometimes we went out together and stuff like that.
VAN SUSTEREN: What’s a long time ago to you, in terms of — you’re only 17, at this point.
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I know that.
VAN SUSTEREN: So what’s a long time ago?
VAN DER SLOOT: From that point, that day, I think THREE MONTHS earlier, TWO MONTHS earlier I’d met him.
VAN SUSTEREN: So he was a friend of three months.
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, three or four months…
VAN SUSTEREN: Did you know Satish at that point?
VAN DER SLOOT: No. I met — I MET DEEPAK FIRST, and THEN I MET SATISH.
VAN SUSTEREN: But you knew Satish before that night…
(CROSSTALK)
VAN DER SLOOT: Before that night, I had-met him before, yes.
maggie, They all lied. We know that!!!!!
mike, It was a smoke screen.
Richard, this is it about the girl…they’ve done a great job with the crime thread.
07/27/2006 — Gang rape and cell phone taping of 16-yr-old girl at school. Tape is uploaded to internet. Girl’s parents not pressing charges. Diario
Posted 8/14 on LCD by sandy leiva on LCD; to M&C via msmarple
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=188&start=100
I’m seeing commercials all the time on every other network. Looks like Aruba is investing millions of taxpayer money into trying to get Americans to visit their “Happy Island”.
I think they are wasting their money, trying to appeal to Americans that don’t have TV or Internet Access.
If the Gov’t Aruba wants to improve their desirabilty, they need to bring in the rapists and murderers, starting with the VanDerSloots and the Kalpoes. And hold them responsible for the crime they committed against Natalee and her family.
Otherwise, waste your money, afterall it’s not yours, it’s the poor taxpayers funding this sham.
Maggies post number 31 hit the head right on the nail. Do they really think we are that stupid? I dont think so. But they are that desperate. What a web of deciet they have woven and continue to hide behind there favoritism. They dont want to be exposed. Well they have already shown there true colors. That island is too small for her to just vanish without a trace. Karma deal a card will ya. Holland has the deck in its grip. Will they hold em all and do nothing or will they start laying them down so Natalee can get justice. Joran and paulus are the perps but because there dutch they have been given a get out of jail free card. Ha Ha… how hilarous and to think the world doesnt see right thru it. right? Movie scripts arent even this wacky. No body no case quote among dozens of others.
indy, Yea I’m seeing alot of those commercials. I don’t think they will help either. Let them run as many as they want !!
Have you ever been to Aruba? I have and it is basically another island in the Carribean that is made up of the haves and the have nots just as many other islands in that region of the world are. I visitted the island during a cruise about five years ago and there really isn’t alot to do there at night. Carlos and Charlies is really THE only place to go. In fact, most the crew from our ship ended up going there because our ship didn’t leave port til around 2 am. They invited me to go, but I declined.
You’re right about the Dutch people there. They consist of a few very wealthy individuals on an island who’s majority is very poor and black.
I hope that for the benefit of ALL the people of Aruba, there is JUSTICE for NATALEE.
You’re right! I went to Aruba about five years ago and Carlos and Charlies was the ONLY place to go for a night on the town. The crew from our cruise ship would always frequent there as our ship wouldn’t leave port til about 2am
The island is very, very small and there really isn’t anything happy about it.
The Dutch are a few very wealthy minority on an island made up mostly of very, very poor blacks. While crimes committed by the Dutch go ignored; they prosecute the Arubans for just about anything, including spitting on the streets (which for the most part consists of dirt roads). It’s no wonder there is no justice there. Aruba is what is left of the colonial period in a modern world.
True Arubans are not to blame, for they are victims of the same corrupt system. But, the true Arubans are the ones that truly suffer from the boycott against their very small island that relies on its tourist trade.
While I support the boycott, I pray for the Arubans. Let there be Justice in Aruba and Justice for Natalee.
I really do not care who agrees or disagrees with this post. This is my opinion and this is how I feel it went down. There is your main motive; revenge.
I will periodically post the same message until Aruba gives up its secrets!
“Joran, what are you doing here?” “I didn’t think you would show up it’s so late.” “I couldn’t let you go home without apologizing for what happened before.” “I was such an asshole.” “So I couldn’t let you go home thinking how badly I treated you and for what happened on Aruba.” “After all it was your graduation, your celebration. You and your friends where only having fun.” “And my friends tried to interfere with your having fun..” “I don’t want you to have any bad memories from your vacation on Aruba.” ‘Say Joran, it’s really loud on this side, let’s go to the bar on the other side where it is not so noisey.”
“That’s better.” “So what are you going to do when you get home?”. “I start premed in the fall on a scholarship.” “And You?” “Well I have to pay for my school and I will start in August.” “Let me have your address and I will write to you in the States.” ” I wish you a lot of luck in school.” “Natalee, it’s almost closing time let me buy you a last drink.” “Thank you what is it?” ” It’s what I always drink ’151′.” “it’s good but drink it slowly.” “Joran it’s almost closing time and I don’t feel so good, my legs feel like rubber.” “I’ll tell you what; I’m going back to our hotel; I’ll have my friends grab us a cab.” ” Boy the way they jumped for you, what are they your slaves?” Here we are get in and we will be back to the hotel in a few minutes.”
Well Joran is this the way it went down? Is that how you got Natalee into Deepak’s cab?
Deepak; did you stop to tell everyone you guys hit the jackpot?
Is drugging and kidnapping the 15 years you will serve if Natalee were allowed to live?
Was this your revenge for the three fights you got into with the MBHS students? Did any of them report you to the police?
Was this your revenge Geoffrey for your fight with the MBHS students over Natalee?
What was in it for you Michael and Andreas? Where you two along for the ride?
And to you Koen. Where your buddies going to make Natalee your first?
We didn’t forget our “GAY” buddy Guido. Where they going to try and make you straight?
And I almost forgot: Deepak and Satish. An unconscious, helpless and defenseless girl is the only way you two have been able to have sex.
Satish. Do you know what it means when you see the ghost of the person you helped kill?
It means it will not leave you alone until you too are a spirit.
Well Joran; I think we know what you did to Natalee and why. We believe we know who all was involved. We are pretty sure where it happened. Because of the players involved it is beyond a shadow of a doubt this has been a complete cover up on the highest levels. Our problem is we do not know what happened to Natalee after your father and his friends were finished with her.
Remember what I said before: “You have the mark of Cain on your forehead. Be careful where you go in life; someone will be waiting to take your life from you, just like you and your friends did to Natalee. Natalee never had a chance.
I liked the idea someone else had. Take a dollar bill a day. Write on it. “Boycott Aruba, Remember Natalee Holloway. If just fifty concerned US Citizens start this, one can imagine how many bills would be put into circulation within thirty days to Boycott Aruba.
I start tomorrow……………………………
I think it’s time for: if the Van der Sloot family, together with the island of Aruba (perhaps the Kingdom of the Netherlands) would file a suit against Dr. Phil for manipulation and betrayal, and against the Holloway family for making false accusations against their son.
Paulus and Joran won’t sue the Holloway family.
Doing so would put Paulus and Joran under oath–where they would have to tell the TRUTH.
Amsterdamned,
Are you John Kerry? You flip flop on the issue almost more than he does his politics! As for your post #43,do what you want as far as Dr. Phil, I agree he is garbage! But when you come at the Holloway family, you better stick to coming at me, because they are way out of your league! You know as well as the rest of us that the little shit know as Joran and friends, coupled with his dick head father killed Natalee and they must pay for it. Do us all a favor and get off Paulus payroll, or you could just shut up, either way would be fine!
1906
Keep posting and I have lots of red pens
Amsterdamn,
u make me laugh. They wouldn’t file
suit here… they would have to come
to the US at some point.
…and they’d be eaten alive.
Mudering, gangrapng, cowards they are. Included (but
not limited to – the Kalpoe brothers, and
Freddy Z)
Lastly,
How can one ruin Joran’s reputation? You have
to have a good one first before it can be
trashed.
He takes care of being a lying, filthy pig all by his
little lonesome!
ESAD
TROLL
BOYCOTT
Justice for
Natalee Holloway
To Amster-The-Asshole:
I Think It Is About Time The Van der Sloot Family
all get {{{{{{{{{edit}}}}}}}}}}
And Do Not Worry – I’m Sure Beth Will Be Filing
Soon Against Aruba -
amsterdamneddummy: why don’t you go ahead and do it?
What was that?~
AmsterDOOMED threatning to Huff & Puff & Blow Our House Down?
HAHAHA
Eat More $hit & DIE
# 45 are you a dummy, of course I believe that there are other possibilities than only joran killed natalee
I also am of the opinion that the VDSs and the Kalpos should file suit against the Holloways and the Twittys as well as all of the bloggers like myself for character assination and do so in the State of Alabama. If I am subpoened, I will pay my own way from Houston, Texas..
_____________
SM: That works both ways. How about all the slanderous remarks about Natalee, Beth, Jug, Dave, Robin and the MB kids?? (klaasend)
nychic, Beth will NEVER set foot again in Aruba.
You can’t ASSASSINATE someone that does not
possess character to begin with.
The Van der Rapes are filthy, seething, hateful, murderous
predatory gangrapers witn NO conscience.
The Kalpoes are in the
same bin. They know more,
but they too continue to
lie like Joran.
They have lied over and over,
repeatedly – Over 22 times.
NO REASON GIVEN FOR THOSE LIES
except for the fact
he was scared!!!
-Please, don’t make me laugh-
There is no reason that is good
enough to justify all those lies.
The boys and Paulus made their beds.
How do you sue somebody for
calling you what you are?
Even Joran admits on ABC with
Chris Cuomo that he was lying
his nards off. (2/2005)
Chris:
Why should they believe you?
Joran:
There is absolutely no reason to believe me.
I would not even believe myself.
-J4N-
carpe, Why did Beth stop calling them murderers ???
klaas -
go back and read #52 again -
I may be wrong – but I had to read it twice
to “get it”
I think what Tee Gee is saying is more like:
“Bring It On Van der Sloots”
I will await my slander suit as well !
Don’t worry Taco – You are not allowed
to practice law in Aruba – as a matter of fact
you should not be allowed to in NY or NJ either !
kelmal -
Don’t worry about Beth -
If she ever goes back to Aruba
She will probably take Bo Dietl With Her !
Beth knows Joran is Scared Shitless of Bo!
So, Joran killed his dog with a paint ball gun! Is this violence in the extreme or what?
Monkeys, give me some feed back on this. Warning, this is violent, and descriptive. If you have a weak stomach, I would not read any further.
My wife had a friend who’s 8 or 9 year old boy choked the family cat to death. The mother of the boy said she was going to take the boy to see a child psychologist, and my wife ask me if I felt like this was warranted. At first I just laughed and said,”he did what?” “No”, I told her, “it is nothing to worry about”, and then—–I started thinking about the act. This kid has so much anger that he can take a full grown cat (with claws) grab it by the throat and choke it to death. My mind could not imagine a kid with that kind of anger. Imagine holding on to the rotating blade of a table saw until the blade stops, and it would be about the same. I told my wife, “I’ve thought it over, and that kid needs help. In fact, tell your friend to lock her bedroom door at night until she can get him help”.
Now, lets go to shooting a dog with a paint ball gun and killing it. Does this take an act of violence? I’ve played paint ball, and I’ve been shot at 25 yards by an amazon of a lady with a full auto paint gun. I had on no protective gear, other than blue jeans, T-shirt and a face mask. She was coming at me like a big Mack truck, I took one look at her, and I was headed in the opposite direction at a speed that would make a quarter horse look slow. She opened up on me with 4 full auto burst, and I don’t know how many times I was hit. I’ll put it this way. I couldn’t find any flesh on my back side that was not hit. Man o man o man did that hurt! But–it didn’t kill me.
Now, lets think Joran and the dog thing over. Did he just walk up to a sleeping dog and pop it once with a paint ball gun and it was dead? I’ll bet you 95% chance Joran couldn’t and didn’t do it that way.
My take? Joran was studying for Pervert 101 (how to drug and rape young sweet girls), and the dog starts barking. “Shut up, he yells” The dog keeps barking. “Shut your f—— mouth.” Dog keeps barking. “Where’s my paint ball gun?” Joran walks out into the back yard, and at about 25 feet, shoots the dog in the butt. The dog at this point starts to yelp bloody murder. “Shut up”, and he shoots it again.” The dog is going crazy. Joran shoots it again. The dog is running, Joran shoots it again, and again, and again, and again, and again. You get the picture?
Joran has shot the dog so many times, that he has blinded it. It falls to the ground, and he shoots, and he shoots, and he shoots, and he shoots. The dog is one big bloody bruised mess. He then takes his size 14 double Es, and crushes it’s head and neck. Now, is this an act of violence or does violence actually own him at this point?
Are you getting the picture? Does this kid have kindness in him? Is he a good kid like his mother says?
I’ll put it this way, if I were in the same dorm with this kid, I’d lock my door. I’d dead bolt it. I’d put a chair in front of the door. I’d install an alarm system. Better yet, I’d move out!or—hire Bo Dietl as my body-guard.
To all monkeys, (Remember, this is pure fiction)
Remote Viewer e-mailed me this reply about Amsterdamned. Waterboy, “Amsterdamned is a digger.” (What the heck does that mean Amsterdamned?) Waterboy, also “Amsterdamned is a light on a back post in an isolated and deserted place.” (More nonsense–right Amsterdamned?)
Amsterdamned, I’m sorry this Remote Viewer==nonsense I’m sure.
Sorry, Remote Viewer–keep e-mailing me. You can insult me all you want.
#57: Chic – Joran is scared shitless of Beth. She’s his worst nightmare.
To all Monkeys, (again, pure fiction)
I’ve e-mailed Remote Viewer and ask him to view Joran, Paulus, and the 2 Ks. His reply is as follows: “Waterboy, I can’t go there. My blood pressure gets too high 220/180. My pulse shoots up to 210 and I start to have a mild seizure. I believe to view any of these four would kill me. It would have to be done under sedation and with the care of a full medical staff.”
Hey Jerry’Waterboy” what do you think of this?
I would like to see some producer donate funds to put together a mock trial. Even at the High School level they have mock trials and debates.
It would be something similar to “History’s Mysteries”
Take all the evidence and testimonies from everyone and put together a court trial.
Much like they have done with, Lee Harvey Oswald; Battle of Little Big Horn; The Death of The Red Baron; and what caused the flaming crash of the “Hindenburg”
It would be interesting to see what the outcome would be.
That ought to ruffle and shake some leaves. Given enough hype and done properly, I’m sure the hypothetical trial would pull good ratings.
I’m sure it would be a hell of a lot more beneficial then the Dutch fiasco; “Arrest Wanted”; that was more like Arrested Development”.
a thank you goes out
to taz, mayan moons
and Nychic.
thank you for
your recent
kind words!
much appreciated.
j4n
10061906,
Sounds great,
If someone doesn’t do it, maybe we could host one ourselves here on Scared Monkeys. I actually think there is, or was enough evidence to convict on all counts (kidnapping, murder, rape, obstruction of justice.)
This whole case reminds me of some that have gotten away with murder and other charges in New York, because they had diplomatic immunity, though a parent or spouse in the U.N.
That’s almost the way it seems, like there is absolutely no attempt to get to the bottom of the case. It’s like Joran is some kind of dignitary who is exempt from prosecution. It’s like he has a license to kill.
I like the thought of Joran being scared of Beth. He needs to be, Beth has a 7 foot 9 inch body-guard that no one can see, except Joran. In his hand is a 12 pound sword, made of Damascus meteorite.
The 12 pound sword. Make it a 75 pound sword. A guy that big can handle a blade that large. When He swings, it would sound like a big ceiling fan,like a Kisser blade cutting through the early morning dew, like a bullet flying through the air two feet over your head.
Dr. Phil, I agree he is garbage
To Mike,
My wife loves Dr. Phil. She tries to make me watch him. To me it is akin to walking over hot mesquite coals or having a prostate exam.
He has been caring to Beth, and I’m willing to cut the guy some slack for that; but I’m not going to watch or listen.
Ok; We need someone educated in Federal Law; my feeling since it was a violation of Natalee’s civil rights.
We need a judge. 12 jurors. “Our Law”.
A prosecution and defense. Keeper of testimony and what evidence is available. Court recorder.
I’m sure someone out there has run mock trials. Lend a hand.
Let’s see what developes.
I’ll have some time available. I’ll be out on disability for at least three months.
#56 Nychic…yeah that’s the way I read it too.
# 66 Waterboy- comparing watching Dr Phil to having a prostate exam..hehe very, very funny! Cough,cough. ROFL!
To waterboy:
The 15 year old son of a friend of mine lost an eye from a paint gun. He wasn’t wearing anything to protect his eyes.
Holloway/Twittys = Good
Vandersloots, et al. = Evil
We want justice for Natalee Holloway!!
Here’s the problem with the mock trial. As a general rule, muliple theories can be presented to a jury, but if some of the theories are not supported by the evidence, and a general verdict is returned, it can be reversed quite easily because there is no way to determine which theories the jury relied upon in returning the verdict. blah, blah,blah…instructed to believe 1, but not bits from here and there. Since there’s hardly a person here that has the exact same theory as to what exactly happened and who was involved and there’s currently no evidence that we know of, how could a charge possibly stick? Is there even agreement on the who/what/where’s of say 3 theories?
One of these days I hope that people will realize that hate is not the good motivation to solve this drama, I hope that everybody who cares about this drama will take the time to reflect and discover that this attitude of hate screwed up the investigation.
amsterdamned der sloot: so you’re now admitting that the sloots hated beth so bad that they derailed the investigation on purpose ? it’s about time you told the truth instead of another dutch lie. why don’t you send your daughter out with the suspects , let her come up missing, murdered and put in aplastic bag to be videoed and
know the killers that did it and watch them walk free.out of all the trolls that have been here, you are the most ignorant and hateful one yet. you know we are right, you know the suspects are guilty, and you also put yourself on their level when you open your rude mouth. you yourself are as guilty!
Amsterdamned,
You call yourself a Texan but you act like a dickhead Aruban cop. Character assanation, hell, there should be a whole lot more done than that to these huge pieces of crap. And the more bullshit that you spew just leads me to believe that you are part of their little gang. And if your really in Houston, your only three hours away from me, would be more than happy to come show you the justice they should really get! (Dallas, Texas) Mike
A True Texan!
To Amster-The-Asshole:
The time of your post is a good indication that you
are in the Netherlands – but IMO you reside in Hell
or somewhere in the vicinity -
For you to describe the Natalee Holloway Murder
***AS A DRAMA*** ???? WTF IS THAT ABOUT ???
#55 can you give us a link to anyplace you’ve seen where beth calls them “murderers”. i heard a lot of people refer to them as murderers, and i agree with the assessment, but i’ve never heard beth say they were murderers. only that they know what happened to natalee.
dennisintn
With so much hate this drama will never be solved. If you are so full of hate, you cann’t do a good investigation, the chance of making mistakes are huge, eg because of Katrina teh Aruba police let them (jvds etc) free. I can take a person who say such a nonsense not serious
#78 maybe you should leave and not come back !
# 79 you mean missing amsterdamned? Not a good idea Dave
the gangraping, throat slitting, lying scuzzbag Van der Sloots and the highly corrupt ALE screwed over the investigation.
Paulus the rotted hollowed out core of a human called in friends and did everything possible to throw the
investigation.
IMO
He did it for his hollowed out shell of a lowlife son. A
son that doesn’t even have respect for his own father!!!
Your OWN FATHER, JORAN? HOW COULD YOU??? -Deepak
Paulus railroads
people in to doing what he wants through various avenues,
all of them dirty as F%$#, if that doesn’t
work, he’ll pay ya off, and if that STILL doesn’t
work…. he’ll track down a slit throat choller
and…
U take it from there.
Justice for Natalee
Boycott
Waterboy I agree..the evidence is there..and gulf I agree also.. common sense. People might have difference of opinion of how it went down, but almost everyone agrees who is responsible for what happened to Natalee.
June 14th Joran’s statement..So on June 1st Joran’s father told him he was going to be interviewed as a witness, and he had to call Deepak from the police station to ask him what Natalee wore that night, after all the pictures of her everywhere, but on June 9th statement, he can describe her private parts and her underwear? I don’t know anyone could read the June 9th statement and think it wasn’t sexual assault.
(June 1st)
My father also told me that I was going to be interviewed AS A WITNESS. On the way to Bubali police station I called Deepak. I said to Deepak that I was en route to make a statement to the police about the missing girl. Deepaks answer to this was: “Shit”. Deepak told me to stick to the story that we had dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn. I couldn’t properly talk to Deepak because my dad was in the car. At approximately 12.30 my dad and me had arrived at Bubali police station. I WAS INTERVIEWED AS A WITNESS. I cannot remember that in my statement I had said that I had been at Fisherman’s Huts with Natalee. I might be possible that I stated that. During the interview I called Deepak on his mobile. I HAD ASKED HIM WHAT CLOTHES NATALEE HAD BEEN WEARING THAT NIGHT. He told me that Natalee was wearing a blue skirt and a blue top.
June 9th statement ..
To your question as to what panty Natalee was wearing, I answer you the following. Natalee wore a dark blue panty. According to me they were embroidered panties and according to me these were flowers.
BODY IN MARRIOTT WATER BASIN
NATALEE’S LIPS AND MOUTH
compared to
CORPSE LIPS AND MOUTH
http://tinyurl.com/kxrrl
J4N
#80 i doubt your own family would miss you.
ROFLMAO – Good job Maggie on
posting the Greta Fox Interview snip-its.
Ladies and gentleman:
Here is a Joran CLASSIC
moment right here.
————
“Joran nails down the amount of
time that he has known Satish Kalpoe”
———–
VAN SUSTEREN: What’s a long time ago to you,
in terms of — you’re only 17, at this point.
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, I know that.
VAN SUSTEREN: So what’s a long time ago?
VAN DER SLOOT: From that point, that day,
I think THREE MONTHS earlier, TWO MONTHS
earlier I’d met him.
VAN SUSTEREN: So he was a friend of three months.
VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, three or four months…
————————
J-Bo wouldn’t know the truth even if it
snuck up behind him on tippy toes and
gave him a good swift kick
to the lunchbox!
-J4N-
Mike said:
Sure they’re hungry, but doubt they would want rotten meat bags such as yourselves!
—
Mike,
That was funny. That sounds like it
could be a new Father’s Day Card for the Hallmark
Greetings Collection.
Dear Pop,
I love uze,
ya big rotten
meat bag.
HAPPY FATHER’S DAY!
#73
One of these days I hope that people will realize that hate is not the good motivation to solve this drama.
————–
Precisely! You should take your own advice on that and
shut your little INCUBUS of a kid up.
You know? Tell
him to stop putting
kerosene hate soaked words in
to a dead girl’s mouth like:
“Hitler’s blah blah”
and “Slaves blah blah.”
She is not
here to dispute it. The Kalpoes never heard it… but
yet your demonic offspring can lie all he wants? All we
have is Joran’s word for it. …and Joran’s word isn’t
worth a wheelbarrow load of flaming lizard $h1t.
Joran’s mouth – a radio active toxic waste dump.
This has been demonstrated
over and over again…
22 plus times lying to Aruban Polis,
friends, and even family members.
Remember when he lied to MOMMA?
Read the trascripts.
Read the transcripts.
Read the transcripts.
Only a slimeball on the scale
of a murdering raping
VDS would continue
to attack a defenseless
female after
she had
already
died.
-J4N-
Carpe, was I right about the pixels? You got my email?
molly (in Houston)
lol Carpe!
nice fater’s day card, thats what that lol was aboot~
Carpe,
#83. I did the same thing awhile back, but things were not as clear. For positive I.D. match, dental wise (from x-rays) you need a 7-point match. You can count bone also, and sometimes this can be done from one tooth!
If you could make the lips the exact same size, then you can also compare tooth width. You cannot see full teeth length in either picture. Natalee’s lips cover the top of the teeth in the photo you have. This will be the same in all pictures of Natalee. If you can capture other similar facial expressions of Natalee (not smiling) this would help. The video of Natalee in the car has many facial expressions. You might try capturing some.
Outstand work, just outstanding.
outstanding work, just outstanding.
#6 – Is this you?
http://diario-aruba.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=390
#93 – I would like to know that myself. All I can say is WOW! My chin was on the floor the entire time I was reading.
Interesting isn’t it? Someone is playing with screen names or someone is trying to play others for fools. Either way it isn’t very good.
93-95 ???
Looks Like The Diario Forum has been hijacked by
The Same Old Boring Bullshit From RU -
Is It Really Diario ????
Or is it A Big Fake ????
Can Jossy Authenticate This Site ?????
____________
SM: I think it’s really a Diario forum but it’s an open forum. Once the Refugees found out people from BFN were posting there they started as well. To be expected. (klaasend)
I watched the recent movie about your daughtar and the Natalee Halloway story. Even later my heart breaks for you because your daughtar was such a beautiful girl with such a bright future. It makes me sick that she could not just go to Aruba and have a blast and get on that plane and come home to you. Just remember that I am sure she is in heaven and the boy that harmed her will have to go before the gates someday and will probably not be welcomed into heaven. You will see your daughtar again someday and I think you are a great women for going down there till the end and doing all you could for your daughtar. I have a son and daughtar and I would have done the same thing for my own babies. You are a great women and I am so sorry you ever had to go thru what you did. A friend you never met, Dave White