RSSAruba Cannot Accurately Report Crimes Either, ” claims that the number of crimes has actually risen recently”
Some have disputed whether Aruba has properly reported their tourism numbers, now some 
are questioning whether crime in Aruba is being properly reported. Who is questioning the crime reports? The American International media? The Blogs? No, its the Aruban Police Union.
This past week there were discussions regarding the registering of crimes and violations in connection with the advertised drop in criminality, an advertisement based on statistics supplied by the OM. The police union disputed these figures, claiming that the number of crimes has actually risen recently.
In an effort to misrepresent the level of crime in Aruba, advertisements were taken out in certain papers. Anything to promote a positive image to save tourism. Actually, it is rather unbelievable that an island that bases its economy on tourism and the interaction with visitors to its island has no “uniform system to register crimes and violations.” Everything in Aruba and how its handled just appears to be an accident waiting to happen. It is as if there are no polices and procedures to handle any of the normal activities in government, business and life that so many of us take for granted.
The advertisement originated with the Ministry of Justice, wishing to show that criminality on Aruba has dropped. Last week the advertisement was placed in the papers on various days, showing a table of the most common crimes from 2003 through April 2006
Amigoe, September 29, 2006: OM creates a standardized system for legal summonses.
ORANJESTAD – The Openbaar Ministerie (District Attorney, OM) is currently working on a model allowing for standardized summonses, where special agents of the police will have a uniform system to register crimes and violations. Special agents do not fall under the Aruba Police Corps (KPA). They work in areas like the Department of Public Health. Whether the OM is also working on a standardized system for summonses for the “normal” police is unknown.
This past week there were discussions regarding the registering of crimes and violations in connection with the advertised drop in criminality, an advertisement based on statistics supplied by the OM. The police union disputed these figures, claiming that the number of crimes has actually risen recently.
The advertisement originated with the Ministry of Justice, wishing to show that criminality on Aruba has dropped. Last week the advertisement was placed in the papers on various days, showing a table of the most common crimes from 2003 through April 2006. The figures came from the OM. Spokesperson Mariaine Arends-Croes said the OM doesn’t recognize the published table, but that the figures listed on criminal statistics appear to match their own top ten. “Every year we have a top ten of punishable acts. We started this in 2003. Only the table in the advertisement is not so clear.” If the numbers have dropped because fewer crimes have actually been committed is also difficult to say, according to Arends-Croes. “Take driving without a license, the numbers can also drop because the police controlled more one year than the other.” The chance of being caught is then higher, but that doesn’t mean that either more or fewer people were driving without their license, the spokesperson for the OM explained.
Posted September 29, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Amigoe, Aruba, Crime, Economy, Natalee Holloway, Travel | 50 comments |
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Not only does it appear that Aruba has a problem with how it reports crimes, but Aruba also seems to have a problem with the fact that its’ own prime minister and “Minister of Justice, doesn’t seem to be able to monitor their own ALE’s handling of “missing documents” in the Natalee Holloway case. Add to this that judges made open direct statements that certain “documents” on Joran Van der Sloot ( of the Ditch) seemed to be missing from his docket file.
Missing reports on Joran Van der Sloot…
False reports filed in place of what Beth Twitty signed and reported to the ALE following her May 31 visit at 3 AM in the morning to the VDS property ( where Beth’s statements were then changed and translated into Dutch so that when being asked to re-sign the new statement typed up by ? Jan Van der Stratten and Jacobs ? …Beth could not possibly understand WHAT she was signing – while interestingly the “new version” of her statements suddenly seems to be leaving out all the NAMES of everyone that was at Paulus Van der Sloot’s ( of the ditch) house on May 31 at 3 AM in the morning, and ALL THE SEXUAL ACTS EXECUTED UPON AN UNCONSCIOUS NATALEE HOLLOWAY who was described as “falling asleep and waking up” over and over again, while Beth is there asking: WHERE IS MY DAUGHTER?
False representation by someone in the ALE who CHANGED what Beth reported .. since the “new version” of Beth’s statement that was later brought to her to re-sign (which was in Dutch) seemed to also have MISSING STATMENTS by Joran that were made May 31, concerning sexual crimes executed upon Natalee Holloway as admitted to at that time by the suspects ( who were being declared by Jan Van der Straaten only hours later as “witnesses”)…?
Statements that give false impressions concerning how tourism is REALLY doing in Aruba… ( we don’t want to worry those lending institutions)…?
Statements that give false impressions concerning HOW people died ???
Statements that seem to alter the REAL TRUTH about CRIME IN ARUBA….?
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
Good to see your posts Pearl. I wonder too what happened to all the evidence? I wonder how much and what was even sent to Holland. One crooked little lieland.
MISS-u, NONE of it. It has ALL been destroyed. Cover-up complete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SM: How could you possibly know that all has been destroyed? Did you destroy evidence yourself? If not, then how would you know? (klaasend)
the truth about aruba was actually given to us in one of the only totally true statements i’ve heard from the island.
“they lied, i lie, we all lie” per nadira, mother of the kalpoe’s, on a newscast.
are there non-liars on the island? of course there are. thousands of non-liars, just like everywhere else in the world. the problem for us and the non-liars is that the liars have made us acutely aware of the problem and we take every comment as a lie. the formula is
(aruban spokesperson speaking = lies being told) i am sad to say that these spokespersons include at least two american born people who i wouldn’t believe if they had both hands on a bible and swore on their mother’s graves.
dennisintn
So much of the statistics for crime and addiction reported not only by Aruba but the entire Kingdom of the Netherlands simply cannot be believed because it goes directly against what Medical Science and known causes of criminal behavior dictates. A legal system which encourages substance abuse by children simply cannot have a low addiction rate and a low rate of violent offences against persons. Violent crime and chemical abuse go hand in hand and the younger the chemical abuse starts the more likely it is to become a permanent addiction. From this environment comes the corruption of the legal protection system of Aruba with which we all have become acquainted.
This may be a good thing for the citizens of Aruba.
klass, OK, IMO they have DESTROYED everyting. Nobody knows for sure but also nobody knows for sure IF they destoyed ANYTHING. Some people I talk to say they didn’t destroy anything. I have had some good arguments with them. But IMO they have destroyed EVERYTHING. They are NOT stupid !!!!!!!!
I have heard that everyone understands that Aruba does not report their crime. So their crime rate is zero.
Hey TROLL we all know who STUPID is
How can Aruba squeeze so much ineptitude, dishonesty, crime, and downright filth on such a small island? Talk about the cop who shoots himself in the foot ….
The issue now is how our travel agents can force themselves to be so oblivious to what is going on that they will still send their clients to Aruba.
Wonder how those people on the discount JetBlue flights are feeling….
#9-Dave thank you very much…
the crime has always been there as we have seen through all of the reports we have read,its just a freakin shame that we didnt know before.
Richard, I agree about the travel agents. I can’t understand how any of them can send anyone to Aruba, Jamaica, or on a cruise.
Soooo on-topic to SM’s Murder & Crime thread. I hope you’ll read the whole thread, to see how we came by this information. It’s only 7 pages so far. A real Team Effort from the Monkeys.
Starts here:
http://tinyurl.com/fau6z
Summary here, on page 6:
http://tinyurl.com/zjmaz
And for all those who like to comment about our crime statistics in the United States … USA murder stats for year 2005, per FBI, here on page 7:
http://tinyurl.com/gaoef
(Yes, Aruba’s stats for murder are higher than the US, both our national average, and our average per cities of 50,000-99,999 people.)
Vicki, We DID know before. ANYONE who EVER went there knew of the DRUGS and crime !!
marple, The crime stats on a cruise are even higher !!!!!!!!
The nanny state Police Union Thugs now realize that for them to receive budget money, crime pays. Before, they were paid to keep the numbers low, at all costs.
Can’t have it both ways. Natalee still not a crime statistic.
These are juvenile, corrupt and incompetent nanny state pussies.
kelmal – U.S. Congress is ON the cruise stats issue. In fact, we are trying to get ALL “resort areas” attached to the same piece of legislation.
marple, That’s GREAT news. I still don’t know why ANYONE would go on a cruise now. Way to DANGEROUS !!!!!!
think Cuba is safer than Aruba
dave #9: ROTFLMAO
If you missed Greta last night, Andie has the transcript verbatim on BFN.
Kelmel,
Where are you getting the number of people on all the cruises to say the rate is higher? You can’t just count the number of missing and go with that without the number of people from whom the missing are taken.
So I really don’t think the crime rate on the cruises is higher. 36 missing or having met with foul play among how many passengers? In Aruba we have about twelve murders in the last couple of years. Doesn’t sound higher to me considering the large number of passengers and crew involved but I will be happy to concede that it is indeed higher on cruise ships if you will supply your source for the total aboard all of them that comprise that number.
I have never seen that number published and I read the congressional hearings on it but if you have it, please post.
#13MsMarple,
Tremendous job by the Monkeys and should be required reading for all. It is not the fact that Aruba has crime as much as the fact that they lie about it so that no one ever knows what the real crime factor is.
They actually had a spokesperson addressing travel agents claiming one murder in the last twenty years if you can believe anybody could be that far off! Sounds like something Kelmal would claim, haha!
Six murders last year alone puts their rate higher than in the U.S. per capita. And isn’t it odd that just when the monkeys start checking on this, they issue statements. Before one couldn’t find any of this stuff.
No, we did NOT know the crime was so high, Kelmel. Drugs are everywhere that is a given but Aruba lied and told us they had no crime. They even said at the beginning of this investigation that the reason they botched it so is they never have anything like this to investigate. What a load that is. They have it but they may not investigate it is right.
Well, Interpol is onto them with one of the deaths they ruled as natural causes and the family got another autopsy and the real cause was strangulation. Now I wonder about Robert Benson. Did they lie about him as well??
Yes, Nadira was right. They ALL lie! At least the Officials do. Tell me one who has told us nothing but the truth?? Just one???
And that is the point, not the actual statistics but the lying about their crime. Maybe we need a Class Action suit for their false adversing.
You do NOT count the passengers just like NOBODY counts the tourist that go tom aruba. They go by the per-capita. There might be 300 on a cruise ship. VERY DANGEROUS
mort, As DANGEROUS as cruises are JAMAICA is worse. They are the MURDER CAPITAL of the WORLD> Check it out !!!!!!!
Attention: Kelmal is sitting on a lounge chair by the pool with his Dell laptop in one hand, and his dork in the other.
He had to make a beeline for home in fear of his life over li’l ole harmless Beth Twitty visiting Holland!!! rofl
You know, Miss Beth… she’s a ferocious Grrr-Animal. (not)
His only entertainment Mahjonhg, Online Porn and yes, you guessed it,
Scared Monkeys!
Count those post boys!!! Kel I think you set a new record!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frank, geesh, good to see you back.
The point (I think) about the cruise ships is this … there STILL is no LEGAL REQUIREMENT for the cruise ships to report a missing person to law-enforcement authorities anywhere. As I understand matters, they are required to report felonies that occur onboard a ship … but a missing passenger, even at sea, is not considered to be a felony.
The group International Cruise Victims, of which I am privileged to be a member, is carrying on a campaign to have a bill enacted that would make these seemingly common-sense provisions law.
Remember Amy Bradley, and so many others.
And the issue of safety on cruise ships is not related to the Natalee Holloway case. It’s a separate tragedy in and of itself.
Mortella – Re. # 23 – Anna & I thank you, and if I knew you, you would be my new best friend.(Will have to let Anna speak for herself!)
Yes, everyone PLEASE read the Murder & Crime on Aruba thread. It is a terrific example of what a room full of monkeys can do.
Again:
…………
I have said it before. However, it needs to be said
over and over!!!!!!!!!
In VIDEO 510-24 of the Aru-Bay Videos
When the camera shoots the BODY IN THE BASIN
Starting at about 2:45 m/s in to this video…
the camera starts to capture activity happening
down by the pond. I have taken a number of screen
captures and inspected them over, and over, and
over again….
and still I think the best way to
describe what I’m seeing is
S & M type Sex or a RAPE
IN PROGRESS down near the pond.
Here is the frame that jumps out most at me. It happens
at 3 minutes and 13 seconds of the 510-24 BODY IN BASIN
VIDEO.
http://tinyurl.com/fxnlk
here are blow ups:
http://tinyurl.com/h85b6
http://tinyurl.com/obar7
Can we turn this stuff over to somebody higher up
in the computer/video forensics field for a second
opinion on what’s happening in this video.
Mayan Moons… what the hell is it? It appears
to me to be NOT GOOD.
Somebody needs to see this.
Somebody needs to see this.
Somebody needs to see this.
Inside Edition says Larry Garrison has DEEP THROAT witness coming forward? What’s this all about?
Will Holloway case finally be solved?
Activity down by the pond of 510-24
blown up and colorized with nightvision
…………….
Please look in to this.
http://tinyurl.com/fhu4d
WTF is going on in this video?
Roughly 3:13 of video 510-24
Body in Basin Video
“Pond Activity In Background”
Activity down by the pond.
510-24 Video
Roughly
3:13 time
http://tinyurl.com/zoxx5
post#26 lmao Carpe!~
Hey Carpe!~
I see it! Your still captures are great but i’ve had trouble making out whats going on at the ponds edge. Only just now going from your start off of 2 min 45 seconds, freezing the screen & going frame by frame just now that i finally see what you’re talking about!~ I can see a person moving over another person. DAMN!~
I can see more than 1 person moving about over someone laying on the pond’s edge and still counting! whoa
I sent ya an email 30 or so minutes ago & right after i just looked again letting my eyes relax & slowly moved frame by frame & then i saw people moving. I haven’t even gotton to 3:13 yet!~
arrrg i didn’t realize it was so late Carpe!
i’ll catch ya asap today ok…..i’ve said it before but now more than ever because of your time, patience and dedication maybe ALL the evidence is not destroyed. With few tools you’ve done so much & i know now that much more can be done, kudos to Carpe!~
What were Deepak & Satish wearing that night?
#7 KEMAL …OH YES THEY ARE STUPID…JUST REVIEW THE CASE FACTS…DUMB AND DUMBER AND THEY WILL PAY FOR THEIR CORRUPTION IN THE END…
#14 KEMAL…Funny I never saw the drug cartel advertised in one of Aruba’s tourism brochures…gee, I did’nt know!
Richard, You are right ,the cruises and Jamaica doesn’t have anything to do with Natalee. I just want EVERYONE to be aware of how DANGEROUS these places are so no more AMERICANS go missing. Aruba has ALWAYS been this bad.
Aruba wasn’t always this bad…In the last 5 to 10 years crimes has gone up…but not the way you guys think. It’s not like in south america or something. But if we continue like this, it won’t suprise me that it will be like that.
arubaanse, Yea Ok I agrre. The last 10 years have been bad. Most Americans knew that and still went. Now they start crying. That is why I keep preaching about how BAD Jamaica and cruises are. Maybe I can save a couple of Americans !!!
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SM: How could Americans know that with Aruba lying about their crime numbers? (klaasend)
I understand you Kelmal, you want to help your fellow americans. It’s a good thing that u want to warn people about the crimes in foreign places. I think Beth is doing a great job with her “save travel” campaign.
Look, I have said it before, crimes do happen in Aruba but if you compare it to other islands in the caribbean, we are still a very safe island. But I agree with everyone here. Aruba should be honest with his visitors. Tell them the truth. Yes, crimes are very low compare to other islands or country but don’t say that crimes can or never happens there cuz that is not posible on this earth. I always tell the tourist that remember, Aruba is a wonderful island with lot’s of wonderful people but…that does not mean we do not have psycho’s living among us! So, watch your back and not just in Aruba but everywhere else.
klaas, If you have ever been to Aruba you know that all bars and hotels serve drinks to anyone. You also know that drug dealers are on every corner just like in Downtown Detroit. Why would I want to take my family to someplace like this ??? It is like that in Jamaica also. If you want to weed then this is the place to go on vacation. All cruises and islands lie about the crime rate. They do because it will hurt tourism. It is up to YOU let people know this goes on in other places also. Lets not have ANOTHER Natalee !!
arubaanse, Great post. That is why I tell everyone about the dangers on pther islands and cruises. I want to warn them . THANKS Kel Mal
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