RSSThe Incredible Shrinking, Small and Factually Incorrect President … “we also have fewer horses and bayonets … We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines”
Barack Obama, the Snark in Chief …
Tonight during the third and final Presidential debate, Barack Obama showed why we call his the “Lost in Smallness” president. I am not sure if a president ever acted so small, trite and petty ever before in a debate. In an attempt to humiliate and diminish Romney, Obama acted a fool and beneath of Office and was factually incorrect when he made the snide, wise-a$$ comment, “we also have fewer horses and bayonets … We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines” How contemptuous could Obama be? It is no wonder that Obama can get nothing done with a President like this.
OBAMA: But I think Governor Romney maybe hasn’t spent enough time looking at how our military works.
You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military’s changed. We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines.
OBAMA: And so the question is not a game of Battleship, where we’re counting slips. It’s what are our capabilities. And so when I sit down with the Secretary of the Navy and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, we determine how are we going to be best able to meet all of our defense needs in a way that also keeps faith with our troops, that also makes sure that our veterans have the kind of support that they need when they come home.
Lets get a couple of facts straight here.
1. Marines still use bayonets.
2. Submarines are boats not ships.
3. Since when has Obama ever sat down and determined military strategy with those in the know and generals on the ground? Obama called for time tables for withdrawals for political reasons, rather than winning a war.
Posted October 22, 2012 by Scared Monkeys 2012 Elections, Barack Obama, Debates, Epic Fail, Lost in Smallness, Mitt Romney - Paul Ryan 2012, Presidential Election, You Tube - VIDEO | 12 comments |
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The USA has 65 nuclear attack submarines, 35 nuclear missile submarines including some of the largest OHIO class.
The last time any marines has used his bayonet in combat has been to open those pesky MRE bags.
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SM: Marines use bayonets, that is a fact. War is hell, not a video game. Sorry, but that is a fact.
Maybe you should read what you post before you try and force that tiny brain to some conclusions.
Lets get a couple of facts straight here.
1. Marines still use bayonets.
“we also have fewer horses and bayonets”
Fewer > none
Your “fact” that Marines still use bayonets is not relevant, as The President did not say none.
2. Submarines are boats not ships.
Semantics. Thanks for that insight.
So you get a “Half True” rating, as your semantic argument, while pretty much irrelevant is correct. He got the name wrong.
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SM: Read the post? It was not a post, it was a debate. Sorry if I do not find it Presidential to make a joke out of our military. Since we still have Marines and they still use bayonets, that is hardly false.
Sadly, your brain cannot comprehend that Obama has been a miserable failure.
Sorry, Obama’s snark belongs on Comedy Central, not the Oval Office. He is a joke and sadly the joke has been on America for the past 4 years.
This is what Barry does best and that is belittle people he doesn’t agree with and especially when he doesn’t have an answer. It’s the Shitcago way and he can’t help himself. He is just another union thug under that thin skin of his.
Even if Mitt Romney loses the election, he should be much more respected in the general political arena after these debates.
Romney has stood up to Obama and called him out on many of his shortcomings, he has had the back bone to stand his ground no matter how contrite and demeaning the President has been. I agree, that Obama personally attacked Mitt with many inaccurate allegations and personal, snarky insults.
Although Mitt Romney claims if he loses he will never run again, I for one, will conclude that this Man has earned much more respect and admiration for his hard work and attempts to get America to listen to reason.
Question remains, how many are truly hearing and paying attention?
Obama’s a-hole attitude shown like a floodlight last night. I can barely stomach the man.
What concerns me are all the low-lifes threatening to riot and making death threats against Romney should he beat their Omessiah in the election. Interesting, isn’t it? Sounds like mob-rules mentality to me. Glad I live in the country. Good people be sure you have plenty of ammunition in stock for the fallout on November 7th.
[...] through his snark and smallness Obama trivialized himself. Many focused on Obama’s snark of horses, bayonets and ships; however, that was hardly the line of the [...]
When you have few accomplishments for your record that are positive, the only way out is to try and make the other person appear to be smaller than you. Romney did not take the bait.
While the USN does indeed refer to a sub as a “boat,” you should pardon the POTUS using the word “ship.” When a USN missile sub is well over 500 feet long and even a high-speed attack sub is over 300 feet, it’s a much better fit with the typical landlubber’s impression of the word “ship” than “boat.” Your insistence on the word “boat” is petty in itself, and frankly contextual. A submariner might insist on the word, but it’s a nonissue for most people and should be here, too. This is picking nits.
As to bayonets, I think the POTUS narrowly missed sticking his foot in it on that score. Each and every Marine carries a bayonet. There have bayonet charges as recently as a couple of years ago; the psychological value of hardened Marines running at hostiles with huge sharp knives affixed to the end of automatic rifles is not lost on our combat troops, and has proven effective even against greater forces. I know I’d put MY gun down. “I give!”
As to the rest of it, the snarky tone, you have a point. Whether it is un-Presidential, however, I think is a specious question. Was it un-Presidential for George Bush to stare at his watch? Was it un-Presidential for Reagan to condescendingly declare, “There you go again!” I think it’s important to remember that all these people are people first, and presidents second. They’re emotional, fallible, ignoble. Flawed, just like everyone else.
Paul Ryan this morning:
“To compare modern American battleships and Navy with bayonets, I just don’t understand that comparison,”
Maybe that’s because your thinking is 20 years out of date:
“The last battleship on active duty was USS Missouri (BB 63) decommissioned Mar. 31, 1992. In the 21st century, there are no battleships in the United States Navy.”
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/s…
I think you need to look up what a naval task force is to know how correct the President’s smart aleck response was. I don’t think carriers shield and defend themselves totally by themselves or by other carriers. After all the other navies have submarines that can take carriers out as well as other ships and planes. As for bayonets the Army uses them also not just the Marine Corps. The bayonet is still very effective in hand to hand combat.
I researched the above question for you and a task force consist of cruisers, destroyers (which by the way are sub killers and that is where they got their names), and various other landing craft for amphibious assalts would be included. Rducing the number of ships means the reamining naval personel will spend more time on tours and less time at home thus creating more fatigue especially battle fatigue during combat and more time away from family which will greatly effect morale of the troops. The same goes for the ground forces Mr. Obama sent from Iraq to Afghanistan instead of rotating them home A smaller military and especially Navy with the world covered by 70% water is not something Obummer should brag about.
as Cheney once stated famously “you go to war with the military you have, not the one you want”
lucky for us he had a military built over 8 yrs by Clinton. Obama has Rummy to thank for the military he has i.e. smaller is better
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SM: Clinton gutted the military, as Obama says, “he did not build it”