RSSThe Latest Twist in the Natalee Holloway Case … Pics of Body Found While Scuba Diving in Aruba?
Back in October 2009 the Muldowney’s were on a cruise that stopped in Aruba. They went on a scuba dive while in Aruba but didn’t get those photos developed until January 2010. While looking through the photos they noticed something startling. They noticed what appeared to be a skeleton on the ocean floor.
I cropped the photo and removed the color for a closer look:
Dr. Michael Baden upon reviewing the photo said it could be a human skeleton and needs to be checked out.
Will Aruba do the right thing? What do you think?
UPDATE I: Natalee Holloway Body Found Pictures Add a Hype to Holloway Case
UPDATE II: Top Pathologist: Investigate Possible Holloway Find
Authorities in Aruba have an “absolute obligation” to investigative an underwater photograph that may show the remains of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama high school student who disappeared in Aruba in 2005, a renowned forensic pathologist told FoxNews.com.
Dr. Michael Baden, a former chief medical examiner for New York City who has followed the high-profile Holloway case, said a photo taken in October by a Pennsylvania couple off the coast of Aruba could depict skeletal remains and should be treated as a potential lead.
“It could be a body,” Baden told FoxNews.com. “The odds are it isn’t, but it absolutely could be a body and there’s an obligation to pick it up and investigate.”
UPDATE III: Natalee Holloway’s Remains? Aruba Divers to Examine Area
Aruban authorities are dispatching a dive team to investigate a Pennsylvania couple’s underwater photograph that may show skeletal remains of Natalee Holloway, an Alabama high school student who went missing on the Caribbean island five years ago.
Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the public prosecutor’s office in Aruba, said she was not authorized to say when or where the dive would take place, except that it will happen “in the very near future.” Officials likely will have the results of the preliminary investigation by Sunday or Monday.
The underwater photograph of the sea floor depicts a rough outline that the couple believes resembles a human skeleton, according to the Intelligencer Journal/Lancaster New Era, which first published the photo on Thursday.
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Does the USA love obama ???
NO way in HELL !!!
At first it looked like part of a skeleton.
Now I think it might be some type of debris? A good search is needed. How deep? How far from shore? A dive master may be needed to retrieve the skeleton.
Do you trust the Aruba’s Government to even look?
the Aruban government is no more tustworthy than the
obama government. they operate on the same agenda, lie, cheat, and steal.
If there is human skeletal remains on the ocean floor near the German shipwreck, the Aruban authorities will remove them from the site, destroying all evidence before anyone else can retrieve them…
The Arubans don’t know the meaning of DOING THE RIGHT THING!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
Skeleton photo to be part of Holloway case
Published: March. 19, 2010 at 12:35 PM
Prosecutor: New evidence in Holloway case
ORANJESTAD, Aruba, March 19 (UPI) — Police investigating the 2005 disappearance of teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba say they will study a photograph of a skeleton found on the ocean floor.
Deputy Chief Adolpho Richardson, the lead investigator in the case, said the underwater photograph taken in October 2009 will be reviewed to determine if the skeleton is from Holloway, who was 18, The Birmingham (Ala.) News reported Friday.
The skeleton rests on the ocean floor off the coast of Aruba.
“We try to leave no stone unturned, so we will look into it,” Richardson told the News. “Although the chances are very slim that it will lead to any results.”
Holloway, who was from Alabama, was last seen outside a nightclub in Oranjestad, Aruba, prior to a scheduled flight home on May 30, 2005.
The Lancaster New Era said the photo was taken last year by John and Patti Muldowney of Rapho Township, Pa., during their Aruban vacation.
Not only do I think they won’t do the right thing, i wouldn’t put it past them to try to get to it before anyone from the FBI gets a chance to
check it out.
It’s really hard to tell what it is. It does look like skeletal remains but it could be nothing. I don’t think anything will be done regardless. Remember the photos taken earlier that showed what appeared to be a human skull and what looked to be clothing similar to what Natalee was wearing? These were in a crab cage on the bottom of the sea. What ever became of that? NOTHING
They have no interest in ever solving this case. This case could have been solved early after Natalee went missing but they chose to cover up for the scumbag Joran.
Dave Holloway was not guest on Nancy Grace tonight but … his words flashed across the screen … words that imply that Natalee Holloway’s father believes the photo depicts a rock formation.
One way or the other …I am thankful that this couple came forward. Once again media attention has been focused on the Natalee Holloway case … a case that was solved on May 30, 2005 but … a case in which a cover up agenda was establishe … a case in which the decision was made that justice would not prevail for an American citizen.
Janet
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On the Record w/ Greta – April 11, 2006
DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S FATHER: Oh, the media was our best friend. If it hadn’t been for the media this thing would have been swept under the table the very first day and we’d have been calling back to Aruba “Have you heard anything? Have you heard anything?” I truly believe that.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191377,00.html
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‘Scarborough Country’ – October 23, 2005
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S MOTHER: They never—they never wanted to implicate these three young men. They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. And there is a list of reasons, you know, why we know that is true.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9796403/from/RL.2/
Natalee Holloway’s Remains Discovered in Dive Photo?
Snorkeling Couple Might Have Photographed Missing Teen’s Skeleton off Aruba
By CHRISTINE BROUWER and RUSSELL GOLDMAN
March 19, 2010
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/natalee-holloways-remains-couple-thinks-photographed-missing-teens/story?id=10147845
NANCY GRACE
Does Underwater Photo Show Natalee`s Remains?
Aired March 19, 2010 – 20:00:00 ET
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/19/ng.01.html
At first I thought it might be a skeleton, but on further examination, especially in the black white version I think unfortunately it probably is just some rocks and debris that eerily looking a bit like a person. Still needs to be checked out to be sure though.
I believe the Muldowneys got their 15 minutes of fame.
It looks like anything you believe you want it to be.
JMO It still; to me looks like rock formations.
Similiar to the frenzy of the face on Mars.
Cremation is the only method where there is no body there is no case: again JMO..
What the hell is that striped stick on the right side of the skull ??? It’s only visable on the color photo.
Is this a human skeleton? It could be, but if the Aruban authorities get to it first, nothing will happen.
Recovering a skeleton from the ocean floor is not an easy task and if not handled correctly, much will be lost.
Our FBI needs to get busy trying to find the exact location and then getting some quality photographs of the site and the area around it.
I WOULD NOT TRUST THE ARUBAN COPS AND JUSTICE SYSTEM AS FAR AS I COULD THROW THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
It’s been sent to our legal attache in Bridgetown [Barbados] and they will work with local authorities in the matter,” FBI spokesman Brian Herrick told the Philadelphia Inquirer on Friday.
The FBI will assist only if requested, Herrick told the paper.
Deputy Chief Adolpho Richardson of the Aruban police told the Birmingham News that authorities will investigate.
“We try to leave no stone unturned, so we will look into it,” he said, “although the chances are very slim that it will lead to any results.”
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If the FBI is not asked to assist, we’ll never really know what this picture is. Aruban authorities will probably not get the FBI involved
and they’ll just spew more lies.
They never wanted this case solved and as long as it is in their hands, it won’t be. Those same hands imo have blood on them just like Joran’s hands do.
After all of these years, it still makes my blood boil on how this was handled.
An utter farce.
RIP Natalee.
I am not sure if it is Natalee…
…but it is sure a great burial site
for when Joran Van der rapist and the
Kalpoe get murdered.
MARK IT, ARUBA!
That could be you new hottest tourist attraction.
OMG!!!!!!
I am starting to spell like an illiterate Aruban!
5 years is too long, huh?
EVIDENCE TO DESTROY
Updated March 19, 2010
Top Pathologist: Investigate Possible Holloway Find
Patti Muldowney, of Manheim, Pa., took the photograph while snorkeling with her husband, John, during an October vacation in Aruba. They noticed that the photograph resembled a skeleton partially obscured by sand and recently forwarded it to the FBI’s Philadelphia office.
“It’s been sent to our legal attache in Bridgetown [Barbados] and they will work with local authorities in the matter,” FBI spokesman Brian Herrick told the Philadelphia Inquirer on Friday.
The FBI will assist only if requested, Herrick told the paper.
Deputy Chief Adolpho Richardson of the Aruban police told the Birmingham News that authorities will investigate.
“We try to leave no stone unturned, so we will look into it,” he said, “although the chances are very slim that it will lead to any results.”
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/19/pathologist-investigate-possible-holloway/
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FLASHBACK: The Persistence Undertaking
Natalee Holloways Uncle:
“They will have dateline onboard and I understand that they were involved in the Titantic so I assume they have the expertise to preserve any remains or artifacts and have a protocol. They can always find and locate it, call for assistance and then retrieve it. But that is my fear that they imediately turn it over to Aruba where her remains can become that of a large crab.”
December 30, 2007
“I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can’t believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.”
March 1, 2008
“Sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine.”
March 13, 2008
“If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy.”
April 09, 2008
Buster……
I think that was a snake or some form of sealife which the lady was actually taking a picture of.
#13 – The striped stick is a snake.
We can only hope that this will be properly investigated, but I doubt it. Aruba and its officials spend more time covering S**T up than a dog does!!
Does anyone know what Natalee was reported wearing the night she disappeared? Did she have a coat on or something with sleeves? The photo looks like you can see two hands coming out of sleeves with some kind of pattern on them.
Looks like to me a rock formation
Now that Paulus VanderSloot, has passed away, why does Aruba protect Joran. If they put this liar away, will it help their country? I doubt it…BOYCOTT ARUBA!
I just watched video of natalee at the blackjack table with Joran and Natalee’s friends. It appears she is wearing a blouse with sleeves which would match this photo of the skeleton with sleeves. This definitely needs to be checked out.
Watched Nancy Grace Had an expert anthropologist from Fort Myers Florida analyze this photo…and some doubt it being human bones However, there is a cylinder on top the skeleton that skeleton may have been in it or helped preserve it.
Anthropologist can grid this skeleton same as in dirt. Paulus, Joran’s father has passed and is not around to interfere with justice. Aruba this child/adult has destroyed your country. Kick him to the curb. Give the Holloways closure! Do what is right! Joran asks like he’s daring American’s to a challenge he thinks he is beyond being caught
Why should a dog, a horse, a rat, have life,
And thou no breath at all?
O, thou wilt come no more,
Never, never, never, never, never!
–King Lear
the creep admitted what happened. its over. they will never find her since she was dumped so far out. Just be happy his father dropped dead. Thats right I said it even though I believe in Karma. F*** him and his family. I hope they all die because they all know what happened.
#24 – just what video of Natalee did you watch? The video that the rest of the world saw clearly shows Natalee in a halter style top, and those have NO SLEEVES.
True, Beth and Dave and the rest of Natalee’s family may have come to terms with the fact that she’s gone, but if they could find her reamins and give her a proper burial, I don’t think they would turn that down either.
I wonder if it can be determined the height of the person by some point on this picture by an expert, if it is a person’s skeleton. She wasn’t very tall as I recall and that might be an added incentive to search if this happens to come up a positive for her height.
It look’s like rocks to me. But I thank the people for keeping Natalee in the back of their mind when on or near Aruba.
Hope that somehow this is at least verified. We know better than to ever seek any real justice for Natalee from that corrupt, stinking Island.
As far as the “karma” goes—-looks like the Deepak Brother and slimy Joran are up next! That is the only justice that will ever be had for Natalee Holloway and her family. It IS still totally enraging after over 5 years how this case was handled!! Disgusting travesty.
We’ll never forget you, Nat!
It is my heartfelt belief that on January 7, 2008 Aruban divers were afforded unchallenged possession of Natalee Holloway’s remains from within a fish trap/cage … a fish trap/cage what was was located on the ocean floor via the Persistence undertaking.
However … considering that a forensic anthropologist does not rule out the possibility that the image in the photo depicts a human skeleton … maybe what we are attempting to analyse is not just a rock formation but the actual remains of somebody’s loved one.
A cylinder protecting the remains?? I don’t see it.
Janet
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NANCY GRACE
Does Underwater Photo Show Natalee`s Remains?
Aired March 19, 2010 – 20:00:00 ET
HEATHER WALSH-HANEY, FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGIST (via telephone): Well, if these are skeletal remains, one of the things that I would look for would be a roundness of the cranial vault, or the skull. I would also expect that the jawbone, or mandible, would have separated from the cranium. I would also expect perhaps some of the smaller bones of the nose and the bottom of the eye sockets to have been removed. In addition to that, it`s been my experience dealing with underwater burials that also the extremities, the fingers, the arms and the legs tend to be dispersed.
GRACE: What do you mean by that?
WALSH-HANEY: Well, I mean with the current of the water, sometimes the lighter bones are going to be carried away from the center, the thorax, the heavier parts of the bodies. In addition to that, the various types of invertebrate species, fish or other types of wildlife that`s in the water, will pick at the remains and disperse them, take them away, move them to other areas.
GRACE: With me, Heather Walsh-Haney, forensic anthropologist. By looking and studying the photo, do you believe it`s possible these remains had been placed inside of something? You see that cylinder there.
WALSH-HANEY: I see — it looks as though there is something on top of what may be the skeleton. That would certainly bode well for preserving the center of the mass of the body and keeping most of it there.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/19/ng.01.html
Natalee will NEVER be forgotton Mr. Holloway, she is in my thoughts everyday. Until justice is done every American should stay away from Aruba to punish them for the coverup of Natalee’s murder by Van der Sloot.
To BETH & DAVE:
You’re in my thoughts & prayers everyday.
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I found a cool ad, for those interested!
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Country: Thailand
State / Region: Pathumthani
City: Muang Ake
Ethnicity: Caucasian (White)
Appearance: Attractive
Height: 189 cm (6’2″)
Weight: 95 kg (209 lbs)
Eye color: Brown
Hair color: Brown
Education: University – Some
Occupation: Coffee Shop Owner
Religion: Agnostic
Zodiac: Leo
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Marital status: Single
Have children: No
Wants children: Undecided
Willing to relocate: Not sure
Smoking: Yes
Drinking: Regular drinker
Looking to meet new people and make friends, who knows more…
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I want to meet a Female
with age from 18 to 28
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
I would like to meet an intelegent good looking girl that knows what she wants and preferably for me speaks english as well. Would be nice if she had an education and / or job but that is not a make or break for me. I would like to meet a social person who is not scared of expressing themselves and likes to travel and do fun things also.
Joran at:
checkmate87@hotmail.com
Apparently, the douche-bag got his money stolen and he has been spamming message boards all over the net because the little gang raping Dutch vagina is thoroughly pissed about it!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!
Couldn`t happen to a nicer guy, Joran.
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While it looks to be bones, I think the jaw would separate and it would be easy to see that. I think it’s rocks also, but that’s just my opinion. Boycott Aruba always.
Is it possible that perhaps she was enclosed in something which helped preserve her body longer and maybe somehow got seperated from the container?
I’ve looked at this picture alot and I guess it’s like looking at a cloud, the mind see’s what it wants to see. But the head portion does look like a skull to me.
Could that round object under the arm be a tire? Could be she is weighted down with rocks and things from the car.
jacqueline
My DIL likened the photo image to a cloud also. She says if she thinks “skeleton” it looks like a “skeleton”. If she thinks “rocks” it looks like rocks. I tend to agree. LOL
Janet
That effin loser rapist is still hiding out in Thailand and owns a damn coffee shop? Wow….now this nutbag is trolling the internet on social networking sites for his next victims…. Hmnnnnn….Think it may be time to harrass this sludge monkey at his new email addy, Thanks Carpe!
I do not understand why an American would go to Aruba nor allow their children to go and support the economy there. Adding their lives could end up in the same. I understand people go missing in the U.S and other countries as well, however it is obvious to most that Aruba has government officials that obviously will do a botched investigation and a cover up. Although their is corruption everywhere in the world, if a large number of people took a stand to stop corruption by not going to the corrupt countries and spent their dollars in a country that was not corrupt where would we go? Perhaps taking a stand against Aruba would be a start. Boycott one corrupt country at a time. One hideous crime at a time. Aruba is definitely not on my list of where to go. I run a business with a clientel that travels. I never forget what happened to a life in Aruba, a child, a loved one, a daughter and a friend. I ask my clients to boycott Aruba. I pray for her family to receive closure someday if that is even possible or for a miracle, and justice for all victims. Protect your loved ones by realizing this is not just an Aruba problem. Be alert and never allow yourself to become a victim. Take precautions. Never go alone anywhere with a stranger and never go any where alone. Purchase mace sprayers. Or carry pepper in a baggy. Even a blast of salt in the eyes can save you. Take self protection classes and always make sure someone you love is not allowed to go anywhere alone. We do not live in a perfect world. We live in a dangerous world that can be safer with just a little added precaution. Where were her friends when they saw her leave with those guys?
Joran Lives in europe he has an American girlfriend(Good Grief!) source: Terror Jaap.
I doubt he is in hiding out in Thailand.
The coffee shop and going to school in Rangsit University might be old information?
Can anyone confirm? Take a picture of Joran serving coffee ?
The lead investigator for Aruban police said Saturday night that divers will resume searching Sunday in an area where a couple snorkeling took an underwater picture they believe may be the skeleton of missing Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway.
Deputy Police Chief Adolpho Richardson told The Birmingham News that nothing was found in the area searched Saturday.
The Birmingham NewsNatalee Holloway (Birmingham News file)”The FBI is helping Aruban authorities by conducting more interviews with the Pennsylvania couple who took pictures,” Richardson said. Also being interviewed are members of the group on the snorkeling trip, he said.
“We are trying to narrow down the search area,” Richardson said. “We have an idea of where it could have been but we are just guessing based on the information we have. The moment we have more accurate information, you can conduct a more thorough search.”
The search is the latest of many that authorities have launched since Holloway disappeared in Aruba in 2005 while on a school trip. The 18-year-old was last seen leaving a bar with Joran van der Sloot on the final night of a high school graduation trip.
Richardson said the dive team will remain on the scene as long as it takes.
“The FBI has been in contact with the Holloway family,” he said.
Efforts to reach Holloway’s parents, Dave Holloway of Mississippi and Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, were unsuccessful Saturday.
Larry Garrison, who has been a spokesman for Dave Hollway, said Natalie’s father has received similar pictures in the past only to find out they are rock formations.
“He is more or less dismissing this,” Garrison said Saturday. “I think they’ve found the same thing other people have found in the past, rock formations.”
Aruban spokeswoman Ann Angela told the Associated Press it is too early to say whether the Pennsylvania ouple’s underwater photo is more viable than other tips authorities have received.
“It could be a skull, it could be a stone, it could be anything,” she said. “That’s what we’re trying to figure out.”
The couple cannot pinpoint the exact location, but an Aruba resident believes he can find the spot, Angela said.
“We are a very small island with lots of people diving or snorkeling, so it’s not unusual for one of us to see an underwater picture and recognize the location.”
John and Patti Muldowney made the pictures while vacationing in Aruba in early October 2009. John Muldowney, who appeared on CNN’s Nancy Grace show Friday night, said his wife took the pictures in about 15 feet of water.
He said the film was not developed until December. Fearing the photos may be remains of Holloway, Muldowney said he turned the pictures over to the FBI.
In the event it turns out to be skeletal remains……..
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/19/ng.01.html
GRACE: To Heather Walsh-Haney, forensic anthropologist, joining us, Fort Myers, Florida.
Another question, Heather. What would it entail to go down and try to retrieve these remains?
HEATHER WALSH-HANEY, FORENSIC ANTHROPOLOGIST: Well, we could treat this just like a scene on solid ground. We can grid it, we can map in the remains, and whatever the cylinder is over the suspected remains before we move anything.
If this was indeed Natalee and she`d been in the water for six years, I`d expect that there would be some sort of calcium concretions on the bones themselves and on any of the material around her or adjacent to her.
So what we want to figure out is how tightly that material is bound to the bones and then very carefully remove all of that material by placing it into tubs but filling those tubs with the sea water.
Once we get it on the surface, we have to allow those bones to stabilize by slowly and surely changing out the water to create a neutral environment and then actually dry those bones by submerging them in alcohol baths.
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Now, can any of you picture all of those steps being taken by anyone in Aruba????? I think not.
Now, can any of you picture all of those steps being taken by anyone in Aruba????? I think not.
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No way in hell.
I read that the photo was taken near the site of a German sub which sank in 1943. If they can find the pelvic bone they should be able to determine the gender. Hope we hear soon.
There’s still no word from Aruban police authorities on what, if anything, a search for underwater remains has turned up. Initial reports said the island police would be searching this weekend.
The latest development in the Natalee Holloway disappearance was triggered by an underwater photograph taken by a vacationing Pennsylvania couple. Although the image is not distinct, some feel the photo shows skeletal remains.
Aruban authorities said they would dispatch a dive team to what they think is the site…which the Pennsylvania couple could not pinpoint.
Aruban Police Deputy Chief Adolpho Richardson says they are looking into it but that chances are slim it will lead to results.
Beth Holloway, mother of the missing Mountain Brook girl, has declined comment on the latest of possible leads in the almost five year old case. Then 18 year Natalee disappeared on a high school graduation trip to Aruba. Her body has never been found.
A continuing thread in the mystery is Dutch national Joran van Der Sloot. Van Der Sloot and two Aruban teenage brothers were the subject of suspicion but have never been charged.
Joran van Der Sloot has made rambling and conflicting confessions on at least two occasions. In one of those he said Holloway died in his presence and that he disposed of her body at sea.
Aruban authorities have dismissed van Der Sloot’s confessions as “fantasy.” Although questioned several times, he has never been charged in Holloway’s disappearance.
Joran van Der Sloot has made rambling and conflicting confessions on at least two occasions.
That line above SHOULD READ like this:
Every time Joran Van der sloot opens his mouth he
contradicts what he just previously said. He has been doing this since May 30, 2005. The last confession was #1,297.
Greg the Mongoose on March 20th, 2010 10:01 pm
Joran Lives in europe he has an American girlfriend(Good Grief!) source: Terror Jaap.
I doubt he is in hiding out in Thailand.
The coffee shop and going to school in Rangsit University might be old information?
Can anyone confirm? Take a picture of Joran serving coffee ?
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Greg,
It is old info.
She dumped him.
He`s in Aruba for now.
The coffee shop is a dope house where people sit around get high and play X-Box all day. Then, if a cop comes in, they run and go get him a cup of coffee. It`s a scam – everything Joran does is a scam.
Picture of Joran the moron at his coffee shop / dope house
http://tinyurl.com/yfluhup
Here is a great shot of Joran in action:
http://tinyurl.com/yjre3Xb
just for a laugh.increase zoom by 400 percent,what do you see now?
Whatever happened to Gary???
I see a another smart mouth snotty Dutch f-tard that needs a good shot to the face?
Justice entirely unaware of picture ‘Holloway-skeleton’
19 Maart, 2010, 14:10 (GMT -04:00)
Amigoe.com
ORANJESTAD — The Public Prosecution (OM) was entirely unaware of an underwater picture that, according to an American couple, supposedly shows the mortal remains – possibly belonging to Natalee Holloway.
The underwater picture, showing a skeleton on the left, according to the American couple Muldowney.
They had taken the picture already in October last year during a diving holiday on Aruba. The couple had forwarded the picture to the FBI. The Americans John and Patti Muldowney had approached the media after a response remained forthcoming.
Spokesperson Ann Angela states that the news had come as a surprise for the OM. Justice had immediately contacted the FBI, but has still not received an official confirmation, that the American investigation department indeed has the picture. A telephone call from Amigoe to the American investigation department had not yielded anything this morning. The police and the FBI declared before the American media that they are not aware of the picture’s existence. The OM on Aruba would gladly gain possession of the picture. “We emphasize that the information will indeed be taken seriously. We take every tip seriously. If these people are able to provide good information and point out the location, then we will start diving. In that case, the agreement would be that we recover the mortal remains and forward such to the Dutch Forensic Institute in The Hague for examination”, says Angela. Justice first wants to determine whether the picture indeed induces us to conduct a search operation, as the picture is namely very vague.
The American couple Muldowney states they had taken the picture in the surroundings of the location where Natalee had been last seen, which is on the south-west coast of Aruba. Initially, they thought they had taken pictures of coral. It was only after having developed the pictures that the couple saw something that looked suspiciously like mortal remains. They had showed the picture to friends, the local police as well as their family doctor, who all said it looked like a body, says John Muldowney. He then forwarded the picture to the FBI in Philadelphia per registered mail and stated he is certain it was delivered. The couple had approached the media when they had not received any response after one month, and hope to get in touch with the authorities on Aruba this way.
Since the disappearance of the missing teenager in 2005, divers had searched the sea bottom several times already. The American company EquuSearch had also visited Aruba several times with a boat and special equipment to search the seas bottom. For that matter, main suspect Joran van der Sloot, who is currently on Aruba, recently declared he had dumped Natalee in the Bubali-swamp after she had fallen from the balcony. He had made this confession before the Dutch television producer Terror Jaap. The Dutch media announced today that Joran had swindled Jaap, as the latter supposedly had lent him money for a coffee shop.
Does anyone know if Aruba has requested the FBI to come to aid in the investigation ?
Nancy,…all i read was that the FBI has seen the picture and would help if asked.
I doubt very much they will be asked by the Keystone Inc.
Looks like a young mother, a baby carriage and a very small baby in a sleeping bag I.M.O.
I’m sorry,
I just don’t see anything.
Jerry
She has short light hair, plus a watch on her left wrist (dark face)with a strap band, both bodies are in very good shape at the time these pictures were taken, she is wedged under a lg. rock (currents)maybe?
NewGirlBoston on March 20th, 2010 7:46 pm
That effin loser rapist is still hiding out in Thailand and owns a damn coffee shop? Wow….now this nutbag is trolling the internet on social networking sites for his next victims…. Hmnnnnn….Think it may be time to harrass this sludge monkey at his new email addy, Thanks Carpe!
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You`re very welcome, NewGirl!!!!
My pleasure… and hey, you will probably want that phone number to go with it… you know Joran
likes to hear a sexy lady`s voice, right?
Joran at:
checkmate87@hotmail.com
Call:
US
011-297-966-9557
Aruba
966-9557
Carpe are you a former family friend? I heard Joran betrayed Terror Jaap? Iam sure in the end Jaap will get his Checkmate!
here we go again,do you people seriously think that after 5 years and all the people who dived every possible lake and swamp on my island,nathalee will be found just like that?hope these people got there 15 min of fame,that nancy grace got ritcher and beth got this thing going again,maybe some new material for another movie or book.Tourism here is at its best,the island is happy,the people are happy.i get asked EVERY DAY and get coments EVERY DAY from Americans about this case,9 out of 10 believe the mother knows where she is,the rest just like we arubans,JUST DONT GIVE A FLYING ((EDIT)) ANYMORE.go look for rocks
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SM: Typical post from the typical Aruban. Protect tourism above all else. (klaasend)
Rhod if the Arubain police from the beginning would have done a search days after Natalee disappeared, instead of months later they would have found a lot of skeletons off the shores of Aruba. How many missing Tourists and locals does Aruba have? Big secret! You have serial killers on your island yet you do nothing to stop the killing. Shame on Aruba! Island of death.
http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/another-american-girl-missing-with-aruba/
here we go again,do you people seriously think that after 5 years and all the people who dived every possible lake and swamp on my island.
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Who? Do you have a list of names? The only searches I remember were paid for by Americans. The F-16 dealie was impressive, though. I bet you Arubans are thrilled to know you absorbed the cost of keeping F-16`s in the air for a few hours after all of Joran and the Kalpoe lies.
F-16 fuel consumption pdf
http://tinyurl.com/yht2hbe
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Do you think Natalee will be found just like that?
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Sure, if you can find bones in ancient Mayan ruins thousands of year later… bones from
Natalee most certainly can be discovered a
short 5 years later.
The real question has always been -
Why would an everyday joe blow Aruban be against that?
I have to hand it to you Rhod, you sum it up succinctly with your last sentence.
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the rest just like we arubans,JUST DONT GIVE A FLYING ((EDIT)) ANYMORE.
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You never cared in the beginning either.
#61 Greg -
Nah, I am just a 100% bona fide Joran the rapist Kalpoe hater!
They need their little asses whooped every day.
It`s a dirty job, but I have a good time doing it!
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside… and it is so important in life to enjoy what you do. LOL
It does look like skeletal remains,but it also, and most likely,is rocks. Is anyone dumb enough to think the Arubans would do the right thing!!!!they havent before so wouldnt hold my breath, whatever is found it will disappear quickly.
aruba is full of nice americans enjoying their vacation on a wonderfull tropical island….
every year appears a person with a crazy story
just to do harm…sick or for money..
only stupids believe these stories.!
one thing for sure; all the stupid ,dumb, americans are together ,united,
on this site following fantasies…
and all the intelligent ,bright americans like
99% are enjoying life in paradise……
pls the 1% of dumb as******…stay away from aruba.
….and Texas Aquasearch couldn’t find the (alledged) skeleton??????
I think it’s like the “pyramid on Mars” photo…an illusion.
Wow! You know at 1st glance I thought so but after a good look – not so much.
What looks like clothing – arm sleeve – Don’t you think that the salt water and currents would have destroyed any material?
then again, if the body was put in a container it could have been preserved and maybe a recent hurricane or storm disrupted it. ???
It will be interesting to find out.
I always thought that maybe Paulus VDS had the “goods” on someone and was holding that card as protection for him and PP boy. With Paulus’ death that card may very well be played out!
This would be the prime time to reopen the investigation.
Never Give up Hope – The Lord works in mysterious ways and things come to light at the most unexpected moments.
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE! God bless and keep her family sane through all this. I know their hearts must ache terribly.
Natalee Holloway’s father asks Lancaster couple to speak out
Last Update: 11:21 am – 21 News
Search called off for possible remains of Natalee Holloway
Natalee Holloway search: officials put diving on hold Natalee Holloway? Photo of underwater remains en route to FBI in Barbados
Divers in Aruba put their search on hold. They’ve been looking for the exact area, where a Lancaster County couple took a picture of what could be Natalee Holloway’s remains. The Alabama teen went missing while on vacation in 2005.
Aruban authorities haven’t been able to find the spot where the picture was taken, now they’re searching for the tour guide who took the Lancaster County couple out to sea that day.
John Muldowney says it shouldn’t be too hard to find his former tour guide in Aruba.
” I said, if you want to find out, ask them who gave a 40 dollar tip.”
That’s how much money John gave the guide to move his scooter on and off the boat. John also talked to us about all of the media attention he and his wife, have been getting after taking a photo of what could be the missing Natalee Holloway.
” Patti said no more interviews no more interviews please, until they do something, until they find something.”
He says the attention is overwhelming.
” The dad called me. Because we weren’t going to go on CNN or Nancy Grace.”
Natalee Holloway’s father convinced the couple to speak up in hopes that their actions would lead investigators to what could possibly be his daughter’s remains.
“If it’s someone else’s person, they’ll have closure. But it would be nice if that is actually going to be her remains.”
John says he’s hopeful that divers will find that tour guide so the search can go on.
Joran Van der Sloot is a rat, he pointed the finger at his friend Daury, and he hurts little girls like Natalee. I don’t see him fitting in the criminal world, never mind the rest of society. He, nor the Kalpoes brothers will be able to really move on, without people reminding them they don’t fit in and won’t till they tell the truth.
Grandmother of missing teen talks to FOX16 about new search
A picture prompts authorities in Aruba to search once again for missing American teen Natalee Holloway. The couple who took the underwater picture says it could be the remains of Holloway who disappeared five years ago. Holloway’s grandmother spoke exclusively to FOX16 about the new development.
“It doesn’t look like anything to me. I’ve looked at it, I don’t know how many times, every time they show it. They say it looks like a skull. Beth [Holloway] says it looks like a rock to her. She’s bitter. You know she’s had so many ups and downs, she refuses to get up,” says Ann Reynolds, Holloway’s grandmother.
The roller coaster of emotions is familiar to Ann Reynolds after her 18 year old granddaughter disappeared in Aruba five years ago.
“It was hard, it’s been real hard. I have to believe she is in the hands of God,” says Reynolds.
Holloway’s disappearance is still a mystery. When asked what it is like not knowing what happend, Reynolds said, “I don’t know how to answer that. I don’t know how to tell you what its like. If you can imagine it, it’s one of the worst things in the world that I ever thought I would have to live through,” says Reynolds.
But she is. Reynolds has watched as investigators detained Joran Van der Sloot several times and letting him go. Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with Van der Sloot.
“I think he did [kill Holloway]. I have no doubt about it what so ever,” replies Reynolds.
But Reynolds says faith, friends and memories have helped her find peace.
“I love all those stages of her life. I think about the funny things she used to do…that’s how I keep her alive.”
A diving team is expected to do preliminary work on the spot where authorities believe the couple took the picture.
In a paid interview with a Dutch television station, Van der Sloot claims Holloway accidentally fell from a balcony and he disposed of her body in a swamp. In the past, he claimed Natalee died unexpectedly while they were kissing and he dumped her body in the ocean.
Aruban prosecutors say they lack evidence to charge him.
for natalie’s family, i pray it is her for their closure, and i would hope joran and the k-pole boys might be a little nervous,
JUSTICE FOR NATALIE, I THINK OF THIS YOUNG AMERICAN GIRL ALL THE TIME. I HAVE NO FAITH IN THE ARUBiANS TO EVEN DO THIS SEARCH.they should allow the fbi divers to help them.
Are the media IDIOTS? If you disposed of a body that might be discovered, how long would it take you to go retrieve it before the authorities did??? You don’t have to wait for someone to tell you where it is cause YOU PUT IT THERE…when will these people learn discretion?
Search for Natalee Holloway’s remains called off
By The Birmingham News
March 24, 2010, 9:40PM
A Pennsylvania couple thought this underwater photo might show Natalee Holloway’s remains. (Patti Muldowney)
Aruban authorities have called off plans to dive in search of the remains of Natalee Holloway, CNN reported tonight.
Adolpho Richardson, the chief investigator in the case, confirmed that information to The Birmingham News late Wednesday.
Divers went out Saturday and Sunday after a Pennsylvania couple said they believe they discovered Holloway’s remains while snorkeling in Aruba. Holloway disappeared there in 2005 while on a trip with fellow graduates of Mountain Brook High School.
A spokeswoman for the Aruban prosecutor told CNN the search has reached “a dead end.”
“We’re assuming the photo is of coral,” CNN quoted spokeswoman Ann Angela as saying.
The report could not be independently confirmed, as efforts to reach Aruban officials were unsuccessful Wednesday night.
Authorities in Aruba said Tuesday that police plan to dive again later this week in hope of finding new evidence in the case.
News staff writer Hannah Wolfson contributed to this report.
I guess the rumors are true, can`t even find a place to snorkel in Aruba anymore…
How were these losers ever expected to find Natalee?
This recent event just drives another nail in their coffin. It showcases another one
of their biggest problems. There isn`t one reliable source of authority on the island
in charge of information dissemination.
One spokesperson says one thing… some jackass from the Netherlands pipes in with
something else (why I have no idea because we have already seen that Aruba could
care less what NL says – they have to storm the island with armed assault teams to be taken seriously anymore – we`ve already seen that happen with the Paulus and Joran Van der rape home search.)
So, the end result on global television always appears the same.
A giant fuster cluck of illiterate clowns running around in circles getting nowhere and doing nothing but being an embarrassment to themselves and others.
If a company were run this way – it would be shut down and bankrupted overnight.
Nobody would care and there would be no need for follow-up questions.
I care. All those skeletons off the shore of Aruba need to be pulled out and identified. Joran has isolated Aruba. His bad deeds have caught up with him. Going on TV is the only pay day he can get. The Peter R. de Vries hidden camera confession is what happen! Everything else has paid Joran’s bills and gambling debts.
Joran will kill again.
WELL I AM NOT SURPRISED DID ANYONE REALLY THINK THE ARUBA AUTHORITIES WOULD TAKE THIS SEARCH SERIOUSLY
ARUBA IS A CRAPPY PLACE ON EARTH AND APPARENTLY NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.God bless the holloway family. my prays are with you.
JUSTICE FOR NATALIE, BOYCOTT ARUBA, GO TO HELL JORAN
see what i mean ?
SEARCH STOPPED, CANCELLED, FINITO,END.
A FANTASY OF A COUPLE CANNOT DISTURB THE PEACE
IN PARADISE….
You spelled it wrong, Mr. Aruba. You mean PIECE!
Here, I will now demonstrate it in a sentence for you.
Hi, my name is Mr. Aruba and I live on a floating piece of crap in the Caribbean.
I soppose no agency in america is allowed to do a little diving in aruba ,tourists can,but not the F.B.I.BECAUSE THEY NEED PERMISSION,but the average joe can go and dive where -ever he or she chooses and evan take thier own pictures and send them anywhere in the world.seems a little strange doesn’t it?they can’t phathom,just going in as tourists and dive and take pictures all over that island.someday the F.B.I will have the same rights as JOE average with a disposible camera
you know ofcourse that’s natalee’s christmas song.every year.it must be should be played at that time.to send AN S.O.S FOR HELP.TO HONEST AMERICANS,WHO MIGHT WANT TO HELP HER,
kreiton your a pig.
It always falls back to the responsibility of Aruba. Nothing to hide..right? The longer this case goes unsolved because of protecting Joran….the more tourists learn how criminial this happy little island IS! The issues go from bad to worse. Admit it Aruba your mistakes by protecting have been your own demise! Americans get the blame for caring about justice. Paulus is gone…..solve this case!
I would not trust an ARUBAN on the backside of a plateglass window.
BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL THEY GET JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.
Paradise:
place or state of perfect happiness: a place, situation, or condition in which somebody finds perfect happiness
heaven: in some religions such as Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, the place where good people are believed to go after death, or the state they are believed to attain after death
Garden of Eden: in the Bible, the perfect garden where Adam and Eve were placed at the Creation
yeah right.. aruba = paradise..dream on.. The only thing Aruba and Paradise have in common is the synonym – exctasy.. as in date rate drugs.
Hopefully you will never get a knock on your door to tell you , your child, or family member is missing and last seen with 3 creeps like these and if that isn’t bad enough have jackasses sit around and make up crap to save tourism.
This was Natalee Holloway..
She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.
Extracurricular Activities:
During Natalle’s high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including:
The American Field Service – A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students.
Dorians Dance Team
Future Business Leaders of America
Mu Alpha Theta – Math honor society
Natural Helpers – A peer based emotional support group.
Outdoors Club
Spanish Club
Spanish Honor Society
Spartan Pride – School pep group.
TASC – Teens Actively Serving the Community
Future Goals:
Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.
After she went to Aruba, they tried to turn her into a coke user, alcoholic and loose, making up all kinds of lies about her and her family because she was the victim of a crime.
This cop is related to this suspect, this cop is friends with that cop..AHATA and suspects have police files that the victim’s family couldn’t even have. Arlene Shippers cousin arrested for heavy battery against Natalee..while she is here informing the FBI of the case and carrying around police files.
Yeah sure sounds like Paradise.. maybe Paradise Lost.
totally agree with maggie, what a pathetic place aruba must be.
After all this time, I still don’t understand why Aruba has to approve of any investigations in the ocean. Aruba is inept in doing the right thing in regards to the crime against Natalee. Everyone already knows this. I will never go there. Furthermore, the latest news is that there will be a film festival there and Richard Geere will be receiving an award. Why???? There are so many other places in the world that would be more suitable. Not to mention more safe!!
After all this time, I still don’t understand why Aruba has to approve of any investigations in the ocean. Aruba is inept in doing the right thing in regards to the crime against Natalee. Everyone already knows this. I will never go there. Furthermore, the latest news is that there will be a film festival there and Richard Geere will be receiving an award. Why???? There are so many other places in the world that would be more suitable. Not to mention more safe!!
don’t you worry baby girl,your not forgotten.
Now you have seen what human traffiking is.WAKE-UP
Natalee Holloway Anniversary
Reported by: Cynthia Gould
Last Update: 5/30 10:45 pm
Natalee Holloway Anniversary
Mountain Brook, Alabama (WIAT) It’s been five years since Natalee Holloway disappeared on a senior class trip in Aruba. Her mother is continuing her fight for justice and to educate other families about the dangers of travel overseas. The Natalee Holloway Resource Center opens in Washington, D.C. in June. Beth Holloway is also working with a global security firm called Mayday 360. Click on the video link to find out more about these programs.
It’s been FIVE LONG YEARS, ARUBA!! Give Natalee back to her family!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
oops forgot to copy/paste the link
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-Holloway-Anniversary/fm4JJicFCEOE5y3i-H866A.cspx?rss=1659
I think the Aruban police dont kno the meaning of doing the right thing. They’re holding out, we need our ppl to go over and do the investigation. They say the search will be approved in the near future. Now you tell me what you think.