The Three Ring Circus continues … enter the psychic.
It had been speculated as to who was on the phone with PI Dominick Casey while he was searching the wooded ares near where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found. Ginnette Matcia Lucas, a psychic has come forward and stated that she is the one who was on the phone with Dominick Casey.
A psychic confirmed to WESH 2 News that she was on the phone with the Anthony family’s private investigator in November as he searched land near where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found.
Ginnette Matcia Lucas said Tuesday that after studying maps of the Orange County area where the Anthonys lived and holding a teddy bear that belonged to Caylee, she had that vivid dream on Nov. 15.
As psychic Ginnette Matcia Lucas described the conversation between she and Dominick Casey a funny thing happened during the questioning and discussion on The Nancy Grace Show … Ginnette Matcia Lucas could not substantiate the telephone conversation as she had no phone records to prove the call ever took place.
LUCAS: And I said, Sure, what the heck, go ahead, let`s try it. So he called down there. And I guess he had spoken with Sergeant Allen and Allen wasn`t interested. And then I guess he spoke with Dominic Casey and Dominic Casey said he was interested.
And every time I worked on it, I couldn`t get the information. So eventually, one day, I picked up the information and I called Dominic right away about 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning on the 15th. And I said, I have what I call “the fast and final.” I had some training from a former retired — now retired D.C. detective, Detective Mike Helwig (ph) of the forensics department of D.C. police, and he would always give me pointers of how to, you know, attempt to go into a crime scene and so forth. And I`m also a former private investigator…
GRACE: What you were telling him on the phone, Ms. Lucas?
LUCAS: I told him to go over to the area where an abandoned house was. I told him, When you leave the Anthony house, come out the front — pretend you`re coming out the front door, take a right and go to the end of the street, and go to where the abandoned house is and…
GRACE: Right. And were you — were you giving him specific directions while you were on the phone with him?
LUCAS: Oh, absolutely. We were on the phone off and on for a while.
GRACE: Have you ever seen the location?
GRACE: So this was all from your psychic feelings about the location?
LUCAS: Right. But that`s what I do. I do it all the time.
GRACE: And is it true that you had at some point a teddy bear that once belonged to little Caylee and you presumably channeled information through that?
LUCAS: No, I didn`t channel. I`m not a channeler. I`m a…
GRACE: OK, did you have a teddy bear that belonged to Caylee?
LUCAS: Yes. Oh, yes. They mailed it to me.
GRACE: Did you use it in any way?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I touched the teddy bear and…
GRACE: Right. And what happened when you touched the teddy bear?
LUCAS: I didn`t get much. And I didn`t proceed much. And then I put down the teddy bear, put out a picture, a map, touched it, went to bed. And I had a dream about the information, got the final location, got up at 3:00 in the morning and called him and left him a message. And I said, Call me right away. I`ve got it and I want you to go check it out immediately.
GRACE: What was the dream, Ms. Lucas?
LUCAS: That she was in a plastic bag. I said there might be two plastic bags, a white one and a dark brown — not a brown but a black one, and then a dark green one. And I said, Don`t — I said, You`re not looking for a little person sitting on the curb, you`re looking for garbage, what looks like garbage.
GRACE: Did you turn over your cell phone records to police?
LUCAS: No, I`m trying to get ahold of it through Verizon. I`m not having an easy time with Verizon.
GRACE: Do you get a monthly bill?
LUCAS: Well, it goes to my dad`s office. So he…
GRACE: Well, wouldn`t that be a monthly bill that shows all of the phone calls?
LUCAS: My dad says it`s not on there. So I`ve called Verizon and they said they couldn`t get it.
GRACE: They couldn`t get what?
LUCAS: They couldn`t get the detailed phone calls. So I`m going to go talk to a supervisor tomorrow.