RSSIsn’t This Comforting. Civil servants are going to strike again in Aruba … Air traffic controllers Tower to be Staffed with Two People
Its ok in Aruba to strike when it comes to wages, but not safety. These are 
the same people that state that its wrong to boycott Aruba with regards to “Justice for Natalee”. However, its perfectly fine for employees to protest and put others in harms way in the process.
Tourist traveling to Aruba, be on guard … the air traffic control tower employees are on strike and the air traffic control tower will be only staffed with two people. There is some concern and safety for tourists flying to Aruba. It is simply amazing that individuals in Aruba will strike when its about the money, but do not strike, protest or even complain when its about justice. There also seems to be a general apathy when it comes to tourist safety, rather than the almighty florin. If Aruba thinks it has tourism issues now following the shoddy investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, they best hope and pray that nothings happens to any commercial flights while air traffic controllers are on strike.
The first walk out will be that of the air traffic controllers starting tomorrow at 13:00, and followed by a general strike on Monday from 08:30 on.
The employees working at the airport and in the harbour must inform the government of their actions 24 hours in advance. The unions announced the action of the air traffic controllers in a letter to the government yesterday. The tower will be staffed by just two people tomorrow from 13:00 till 18:00.
Civil servants are going to strike again (Amigoe: April 6, 2008)
ORANJESTAD – The civil servants associated with the SDA-unions, are going to demonstrate again. The unions have sent a last proposal to the government yesterday afternoon, but the government won’t accept it, says finance-minister Nilo Swaen. The first walk out will be that of the air traffic controllers starting tomorrow at 13:00, and followed by a general strike on Monday from 08:30 on.
The unions have promised to comply with the verdict of the Judge, who decided yesterday that the civil servants are allowed to go on strike, but with restrictions. The employees working at the airport and in the harbour must inform the government of their actions 24 hours in advance. The unions announced the action of the air traffic controllers in a letter to the government yesterday. The tower will be staffed by just two people tomorrow from 13:00 till 18:00.
The unions also informed the government about the actions of the other employees that have no restrictions, which starts on Monday from 08:30 on. On Tuesday follows deliberation on another action at the airport, while the personnel of the KIA, police, CEA, IASA, and fire department will also demonstrate on that same day. They will make sure there is minimum staffing though. According to the exception imposed by the judge for the fire department, the stations in San Nicolas and Tanki Flip will continue working as usual. Only the fire department personnel at the airport will walkout on Tuesday between noon and 18:00 on Tuesday.
Spokesperson Magaly Brito said that the actions will continue till the government agrees with the last proposal of the unions, in which they ask for a salary increase of 170 florins per month per civil servant effective January 1 of this year. They also want an indexation of 10.8 percent spread over three years (2009 up till 2011 inclusive). In addition, they want an increase of the bashi-premium with 1.2 percent. They finally want that also the retired civil servants start receiving the bashi-premium starting next year and also retroactively for 2006, 2007, and 2008.
Posted April 6, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Amigoe, Aruba, boycott, Government, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway | 72 comments |
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WOW..maybe they learned from us that the boycott does woek, so thats why they are on strike…to sad..ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE LIERUBA…THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE AVERAGE JOE…Listen up, the DRUG LORDS have been running the Island,they have just let the government act like they had control…STUPID PEOPLE…THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL. This place is going to hell in a handbag….
PATTI, email me please….
Two people will be on duty … I guess that means there will be half a working brain.
But not to worry folks … that ought to be more than enough to handle the tourism traffic that Aruba is getting these days.
Hmm … I wonder if the American Society of Travel Agents, those people who are so concerned about the money of their customers … oops, sorry, I mean the SAFETY of their customers … will be urging their member travel agents to alert the public to this?
Uh-huh….
Hello Monkeys,
Didn´t you think the real shocking information from Aruba this weekend came from this news report :
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3724418/_Drie_gezinsleden_vermoord_op_Aruba__.html?cid=rss
Three family members (father, mother and 30 year old son) killed by second son, a low life drug dealer on Aruba ?
best regards,
Jasper, YOUR source in the Netherlands !
Perhaps the people in the Travel industry know
what the crooks in Aruba hold, so dearly, next
to their hearts…
Tourism.
Bring ‘em in Boys!
We’ll rob them and rape them
and trade them to the Indians
OR
Aruba is slooooooowly shutting down…
.
Good Bye, Aruba!
.
(Flush and not the Royal kind)
.
Don’t take your Chances with Aruba!
I do want to clarify,
I kid around sometimes.
There is no way that I think
Joran traded Natalee to the Arawaks…
IMHO
He and all the members of his family are -
ARAWAK!
.
The REAL SHAME of all this that the people of aruba were not wise enough to have had their politicians heads when this all began 3 years ago .
They are still small enough to bring this kind of pressure to bear and the VDS still seem to hold ALL the cards it just still amazes me, but that’s the question isn’t it what does Paulis VDS have ? and on who ? that they are so afraid of ? .
Sooner or later the right button will be pushed and someone will dispose of this family.
I AM ALSO BETTING THAT HIS SON IF REALLY HERE IN THE us GOING TO SCHOOL IS GOING BY AN ASSUMED NAME AND KEEPING A VERY VERY LOW PROFILE .
All to protect a family that not only has Mental Illness running in this family but it is on a full scale stampede.
Jerry from Ohio
I think the major airlines should refuse to land in Aruba….maybe they are routing them to Curacao like they did before……what have we got here….the gov’t won’t bend and neither will the unions.
Jerry from Ohio….#6….what son are you talking about of Paulus’s….I must of missed something…well they are not welcome in the US, or Aruba or the Netherlands…..
Brie
seems like I heard that one of the brothers is going to school in florida.. the younger brother or brothers are with an uncle.. theres no way that they will not hear the outcry from many that support beth… I would hide under an assumed name myself… but what are they doing in our country… they arent welcomed…
That would be bad to have Sloot trash in Florida!
The Aruban Govt.? will soon have to cross-train its employees if this goes on much longer…Rudy Croes and Hans Mos taking a turn in the control tower…..landing anyone?!!
interesting… so my take on this is that tourism in aruba IS down. therefore tax revenue would be down & air traffic controllers would have a more difficult time negotiating contracts.
notice how it’s always the necessary careers that go on strike in aruba? you never hear of black jack dealers walking out or maybe casino dancers picketing? lol
OMG KAYE TO FUNNY
Kay can you send me the link to translate from dutch to english I lost it
Katie
Brie Misskatie #9 answered the questions OK Jerry :+)
Brie
I rememeber hearing from a blogger that pauulus was in charge of changing the family name.. now that makes sense.. his sons are going to school in florida they live with an uncle..
geez who wants them here…. bad blood …
THIS I FOUND A LINK TO ARUBA
TRAFFIC SAFETY AND ROAD CONDITIONS: While in a foreign country, U.S. citizens may encounter road conditions that differ significantly from those in the United States. The information below concerning Aruba is provided for general reference only and may not be totally accurate for a particular location or circumstance.
Driving in Aruba is on the right-hand side of the road. Local laws require drivers and passengers to wear seat belts and motorcyclists to wear helmets. Children under 5 years of age should be in a child safety seat; older children should ride in the back seat. Right turns on red are prohibited in Aruba.
Aruba’s main thoroughfare, L.G. Smith Boulevard, is well lit and most hotels and tourist attractions can be easily located. There is a speed limit in Aruba and driving while intoxicated may result in the loss of a driver’s license and/or a fine. However, these are not consistently enforced. Drivers should be alert at all times for speeding cars, which have caused fatal accidents. In the interior areas of the island, drivers should be alert for herds of goats or donkeys that may cross the roads unexpectedly. Buses provide convenient and inexpensive service to and from many hotels and downtown shopping areas. Taxis, while expensive, are safe and well regulated. As there are no meters, passengers should verify the price before entering the taxi. The emergency service telephone number is 911. Police and ambulance tend to respond quickly to emergency situations.
THIS KILLS ME
CRIMINAL PENALTIES: While in a foreign country, a U.S. citizen is subject to that country’s laws and regulations, which sometimes differ significantly from those in the United States and may not afford the protections available to the individual under U.S. law. Penalties for breaking the law can be more severe than in the United States for similar offenses. Persons violating Aruba’s laws, even unknowingly, may be expelled, arrested or imprisoned. Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in illegal drugs in Aruba are severe, and convicted offenders can expect long jail sentences and heavy fines. Engaging in sexual conduct with children or using or disseminating child pornography in a foreign country is a crime, prosecutable in the United States.
Please see our information on Criminal Penalties.
REGISTRATION / EMBASSY LOCATION: Americans living or traveling in Aruba are encouraged to register with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate through the State Department’s travel registration web site, and to obtain updated information on travel and security within Aruba. Americans without Internet access may register directly with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. By registering, American citizens make it easier for the Embassy or Consulate to contact them in case of emergency. The U.S. Consulate General is located at J.B. Gorsiraweg 1, Willemstad, Curaçao, telephone number (599-9) 461-3066; fax (599-9) 461-6489; e-mail address: acscuracao@state.gov.
INFORMATION FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME: The loss or theft abroad of a U.S. passport should be reported immediately to the local police and the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. If you are the victim of a crime while overseas, in addition to reporting to local police, please contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate for assistance. The Embassy/Consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find appropriate medical care, to contact family members or friends and explain how funds could be transferred. Although the investigation and prosecution of the crime are solely the responsibility of local authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local criminal justice process and to find an attorney if needed.
THEY SURE DONT PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH
CRIME: The crime threat in Aruba is generally considered low although travelers should always take normal precautions when in unfamiliar surroundings. There have been incidents of theft from hotel rooms and armed robberies have been known to occur. Valuables left unattended on beaches, in cars and in hotel lobbies are easy targets for theft. Car theft, especially that of rental vehicles for joy riding and stripping, can occur. Vehicle leases or rentals may not be fully covered by local insurance when a vehicle is stolen or damaged. Be sure you are sufficiently insured when renting vehicles and jet skis.
Parents of young travelers should be aware that the legal drinking age of 18 is not always rigorously enforced in Aruba, so extra parental supervision may be appropriate. Young female travelers in particular are urged to take the same precautions they would when going out in the United States, e.g. to travel in pairs or in groups if they choose frequenting Aruba’s nightclubs and bars, and if they opt to consume alcohol, to do so responsibly.
Anyone who is a victim of a crime should make a report to Aruban police as well as report it immediately to the nearest U.S. consular office. Do not rely on hotel/restaurant/tour company management to make the report for you.
THEY FAILED BETH
Background Note: Aruba
Tourists on the beach in Oranjestad, Aruba, May 30, 2006. [© AP Images]
PROFILE
OFFICIAL NAME:
Aruba
Geography
Area: 180 sq. km. (112 sq. mi.).
Cities: Capital–Oranjestad (pop. 60,000, 2003).
Terrain: Flat with a few hills; scant vegetation.
Climate: Subtropical.
People
Nationality: Noun and adjective–Aruban(s).
Population (2006): 103,484.
Annual growth rate: 2.2%.
Ethnic groups: Mixed white/Caribbean Amerindian 80%.
Religion: Roman Catholic 81%, Protestant 3%, Hindu, Muslim, Methodist, Anglican, Adventist, Evangelist, Jehovah’s Witness, Jewish.
Languages: Dutch (official); Papiamento, Spanish, and English also are spoken.
Education: Literacy–97%.
Health: Infant mortality rate–5.2/1,000. Life expectancy–75 years for men, 81.9 years for women.
Work force (41,501): Most employment is in wholesale and retail trade and repair, followed by hotels and restaurants and oil refining. Unemployment–about 6.9% (2005).
Government
Type: Parliamentary democracy.
Independence: Part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
Branches: Executive–monarch represented by a governor (chief of state), prime minister (head of government), Cabinet. Legislative–unicameral parliament. Judicial–Joint High Court of Justice appointed by the monarch.
Subdivisions: Aruba is divided into eight regions–Noord/Tank Leendert, Oranjestad (west), Oranjestad (east), Paradera, Santa Cruz, Savaneta, Sint Nicolaas (north), and Sint Nicolaas (south).
Political parties: People’s Electoral Movement (MEP), Aruba People’s Party (AVP), Network (RED), Aruba Patriotic Movement (MPA), Real Democracy (PDR), Aruba Liberal Organization (OLA), Aruba Patriotic Party (PPA), Aruba Democratic Alliance (ALIANSA), Socialist Movement of Aruba (MSA).
Suffrage: Universal at 18 years.
Economy
GDP (2005): $2.26 billion.
Growth rate (2005): 2.4%.
Per capita GDP (2006): $23,426.
Natural resources: Beaches. Tourism/services and oil refining are dominant factors in GDP.
Trade: Exports–$2.61 billion (f.o.b., including oil re-exports & free zone, 2006): oil products, live animals and animal products, art and collectibles, machinery and electrical equipment, transport equipment. Major markets–U.S. (43.61%), Venezuela (5.9%), Netherlands Antilles (16.67%), Netherlands (9.60%). Imports–$2.84 billion: crude petroleum, food, manufactures. Major suppliers–U.S. (57.50%), Netherlands (11.79%), Netherlands Antilles (3.32%).
Background Note: Aruba
Tourists on the beach in Oranjestad, Aruba, May 30, 2006. [© AP Images]
PROFILE
OFFICIAL NAME:
Aruba
Geography
Area: 180 sq. km. (112 sq. mi.).
Cities: Capital–Oranjestad (pop. 60,000, 2003).
Terrain: Flat with a few hills; scant vegetation.
Climate: Subtropical.
People
Nationality: Noun and adjective–Aruban(s).
Population (2006): 103,484.
Annual growth rate: 2.2%.
Ethnic groups: Mixed white/Caribbean Amerindian 80%.
Religion: Roman Catholic 81%, Protestant 3%, Hindu, Muslim, Methodist, Anglican, Adventist, Evangelist, Jehovah’s Witness, Jewish.
Languages: Dutch (official); Papiamento, Spanish, and English also are spoken.
Education: Literacy–97%.
Health: Infant mortality rate–5.2/1,000. Life expectancy–75 years for men, 81.9 years for women.
Work force (41,501): Most employment is in wholesale and retail trade and repair, followed by hotels and restaurants and oil refining. Unemployment–about 6.9% (2005).
Government
Type: Parliamentary democracy.
Independence: Part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
Branches: Executive–monarch represented by a governor (chief of state), prime minister (head of government), Cabinet. Legislative–unicameral parliament. Judicial–Joint High Court of Justice appointed by the monarch.
Subdivisions: Aruba is divided into eight regions–Noord/Tank Leendert, Oranjestad (west), Oranjestad (east), Paradera, Santa Cruz, Savaneta, Sint Nicolaas (north), and Sint Nicolaas (south).
Political parties: People’s Electoral Movement (MEP), Aruba People’s Party (AVP), Network (RED), Aruba Patriotic Movement (MPA), Real Democracy (PDR), Aruba Liberal Organization (OLA), Aruba Patriotic Party (PPA), Aruba Democratic Alliance (ALIANSA), Socialist Movement of Aruba (MSA).
Suffrage: Universal at 18 years.
Economy
GDP (2005): $2.26 billion.
Growth rate (2005): 2.4%.
Per capita GDP (2006): $23,426.
Natural resources: Beaches. Tourism/services and oil refining are dominant factors in GDP.
Trade: Exports–$2.61 billion (f.o.b., including oil re-exports & free zone, 2006): oil products, live animals and animal products, art and collectibles, machinery and electrical equipment, transport equipment. Major markets–U.S. (43.61%), Venezuela (5.9%), Netherlands Antilles (16.67%), Netherlands (9.60%). Imports–$2.84 billion: crude petroleum, food, manufactures. Major suppliers–U.S. (57.50%), Netherlands (11.79%), Netherlands Antilles (3.32%).
PEOPLE AND HISTORY
Aruba’s first inhabitants were the Caquetios Indians from the Arawak tribe. Fragments of the earliest known Indian settlements date back to about 1000 A.D. Spanish explorer Alonso de Ojeda is regarded as the first European to arrive in about 1499. The Spanish garrison on Aruba dwindled following the Dutch capture of nearby Bonaire and Curacao in 1634. The Dutch occupied Aruba shortly thereafter, and retained control for nearly two centuries. In 1805, during the Napoleonic wars, the English briefly took control over the island, but it was returned to Dutch control in 1816. A 19th-century gold rush was followed by prosperity brought on by the opening in 1924 of an oil refinery. The last decades of the 20th century saw a boom in the tourism industry. In 1986 Aruba seceded from the Netherlands Antilles and became a separate, autonomous member of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. Movement toward full independence was halted at Aruba’s prerogative in 1990. Aruba has a mixture of people from South America and Europe, the Far East, and other islands of the Caribbean.
GOVERNMENT
Part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, Aruba has full autonomy on all internal affairs with the exception of defense, foreign affairs, and some judicial functions. The constitution was enacted in January 1986. Executive power rests with a governor, while a prime minister heads an eight-member Cabinet. The governor is appointed for a 6-year term by the monarch and the prime minister and deputy prime minister are elected by the legislature, or Staten, for 4-year terms. The Staten is made up of 21 members elected by direct, popular vote to serve 4-year terms. Aruba’s judicial system, mainly derived from the Dutch system, operates independently of the legislature and the executive. Jurisdiction, including appeal, lies with the Common Court of Justice of Aruba and the Supreme Court of Justice in the Netherlands.
Principal Government Officials
Governor General–Fredis J. Refunjol
Prime Minister–Nelson O. Oduber
Deputy Prime Minister–Marisol J. Tromp
Minister of Labor, Culture, Integration, Community Development & Sports–T.F. Ramon Lee
Minister of Finance & Economic Affairs–Nilo J.J. Swaen
Minister of General Affairs and Foreign Relations–Nelson O. Oduber
Minister of Social Affairs and Public Works–Marisol J. Tromp
Minister of Public Health and Environment–Candelario A.S.D. Wever
Minister of Justice–Hyacintho R. Croes
Minister of Tourism & Transportation–Edison Briesen
Minister Plenipotentiary to The Hague–F. Walfrido Croes
Minister Plenipotentiary to Washington, DC–vacant
President, Bank of Aruba–Rob Henriquez
Attorney General–Theresa Croes-Fernandes Pedra
POLITICAL CONDITIONS
In the parliamentary elections of September 23, 2005, the People’s Electoral Movement (MEP) gained 11 of the 21 seats available. Voter turnout had been 85%. MEP had also won the previous September 2001 elections with 12 seats, forming Aruba’s first one-party government. Despite losing one seat in the 2005 elections, the party retained a slim majority in Parliament. MEP’s biggest rival, the Aruba People’s Party (AVP) obtained 8 seats and remained the largest opposition party on the island.
ECONOMY
Through the 1990s and into the 21st century Aruba posted growth rates around 5%. However, in 2001, a decrease in demand and the terrorist attack on the United States led to the first economic contraction in 15 years. Deficit spending has been a staple in Aruba’s history, and modestly high inflation has been present as well, although recent efforts at tightening monetary policy may correct this. Oil processing is the dominant industry in Aruba, despite the expansion of the tourism sector. Approximately 1.3 million tourists per year visit Aruba, with 75% of those from the United States. The sizes of the agriculture and manufacturing industries remain minimal.
SORRY YOU GUYS THAT IT WAS LONG I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING
KATIE
Approximately 1.3 million tourists per year visit Aruba, with 75% of those from the United States.
BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT ARUBA
TRAVEL AND BUSINESS INFORMATION
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Aruba Blows Chunks – all day and night
Boycott the evil, wretched, stinking sweat filled island of paulus.
paulus is daury. isnt it obvious.
“you need to go home and go to school and pretend that everything is normal, pretend you didnt rape and drug a nice young lady”
UNSTABLE IN ARUBA AMERICANS DISAPPEAR
joran is hiding like the fat little porker he is
he knows the WHOLE WORLD knows he admitted
everything on video tape, there is no squirming out of this one…
he aint in the states………nawwwwwww
he will never come here unless he is chained
So the only hope we have in the mental institution is that they forget to turn off the shock treatment machine………!!!!!
YES SHOCK HIM BETTER YET GIVE HIM A LABOTOMY
Maybe the strikers will finish the job that the Boycott started. If we are lucky.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
just another point of view..hope you publish it
everybody has a right to strike.. if there are too few people in the tower..flights will be canceled… thus no flights that are allowed to land or leave aruba are in danger…
economicly it hurts aruba thats true but safety is always garanteed..
greetings
thomas
DURING FEBR 2008 TOURISM WENT UP ,YES UP
WITH 3.8 % IN ARUBA….
MARCH EXPECTED TO BE DOUBLE, BUT % NOT READY YET.
HOTEL ROOM OCCUPATION OF 86.6 %.
VERY NICE I WOULD SAY, SURE BY 2009, WE NEED MORE HOTELS.
TURISTS FROM ITALY,SPAIN ,GERMANY ARE COMING IN LIKE NEVER BEFORE…
IF SOME NORTH NORTH AMERICANS CANNOT TRAVEL,ITS
NOT BECAUSE OF NH, CAUSE OF A GREAT DEPRESSION, THANKS TO BUSH AND CO.
NORTH AMERICANS LOVE ARUBA….
FROM 75% ,MAYBE 72 % US TOURISTS COMING IN, BUT SOON AS OBAMA TAKES OFFICE THIS WILL RISE OVER 75% JUST WAIT AND SEE.
ARUBA,… LITTLE EUROPE IN TROPICAL PARADISE. !!
THIS IS GREAT NEWS….
NOT SO GREAT FOR THOSE 8 BOYCOTTERS,
BOYCOTT IS NOT WORKING….!!
misskatie..soon in 2009.
1.5 million tourist in Aruba and 78 % North Americans….
As soon as Obama takes office, things are going to change for better…..
#36, if obama wins there probably will be an increase in americans coming to the island. all of them looking for a new permanent residence, and by then most of the good spots will all ready have been filled.
dennisintn
Charly says more hotels in Aruba….the beach is already a crowded mess….so I guess Oduber is a liar because he said they have lost millions of dollars….
There are boycotters everywhere and the numbers are growing….
As far as Obama goes, he’ll never make it to the presidency….
And as far as your statistics go I think your calculators are way off base….
new monkeys, go to June 22, 2005 scared monkeys and read the letter from Deepok….
#13 misskatie……
just google “babelfish”….cut/paste what you want translated in the block and select dutch to english (or whatever you want). the translations are sometimes hard to follow but you can pretty much get the basics.
charly…….pushing all the buttons this morning are ya? we all took a vote. it was unamimous. You’re a freaking idiot!
charles? charly?
This is an article from “TheJustRepublic” may 2006
“It was clear from the start, the Aruba Government, did not take Natalee’s disappearance seriously. Natalee’s family initially thought, she was being gang raped and passed among the drug houses on Aruba. By Beth’s own admission she thought this would be over in a few days and believed Natalee would come home alive. On a personal note, it was in the first days that I was almost certain Natalee was dead. No more, ever since mid-June, I have been convinced she will come home alive and as I type this, still think that she will. Although, it is clear Natalee’s family has abandon any thoughts of that.
So, with Natalee’s family thinking it would be resolved in a few days and the government playing with its thumbs. To a certain degree I think the delay is related to what I now term as “Aruba Granduer Illusion Syndrome or AGIS.” It is best illustrated that by the denial of crime on the island, the callous attitude towards Natalee, her family and now Oduber’s statement that there is no poverty on Aruba. Clearly, Arubans do not exist in a state of reality, but that of a fantasy world.
Having said that there is one man, who knew it, was serious beyond what her family did and the Aruba government did. Who? Charles Croes! Reading the Aruba boards and seeing how they describe him, before and after Natalee it is apparent that he is one of the island busy bodies. Not only is he a businessman, but he also seems to have a pattern of involving himself in many aspects of the community and comes off as a know-it-all. We know that he was among the first, to meet with Beth and her group upon their arrival. Charles Croes is a friend to G. Ruffner Page who is Jug’s boss and daughter was among Natalee’s group. Here is Charles Croes’ posting on an Aruban board, that he has since confirmed was him:
Author: Charles (—.setardsl.aw)Date: 06-02-05 09:01There are issues in this case that can go beyond the obvious in their implications.It will take time for all the information regarding this lovely child to come out. Some of it will be hard to handle and some of it will be expected. With regards to the family of this missing child, my prayers are with you.I was with them on the first night they arrived to ARuba (looking for their daughter) from midnight until 5:30 AM and have kept in touch. In my opinion, this issue has far reaching implications for all those involved.I wish all of us strength
charles
arubafastphones.com.com
Why did Charles think, by June 2, that there were far-reaching implications? Natalee’s family thought this would be over quickly and the government was screwing around, but not Charles. It seems Charles Croes was ahead of the game. Why? The answer is certainly not that he is a clairvoyant.Mr. Croes is also, famous for his lack of compassion and his down right sadistic demeanor towards Natalee and her family. As seen in the Vanity Fair interview, where he stated:
“They’re killing Aruba,” says Aruban businessman Charles Croes, a former ally. “That girl, Natalee, I wish she’d stayed home. I hope she’s found alive there. Because no one would care. No one. The kid is just not worth all this trouble, this heartache. Is Natalee worth it? Is she?”
Is it possible to even be more heartless? At least we know Charles, supports the boycott, because he wishes Natalee stayed home. If he wishes she stayed, all better, because we would not want to risk a repeat, would we Charles? Charles they are not killing Aruba. Aruba has committed suicide.
In the end the question remains, how did Charles Croes know this would not be, so simple?”
Hey Charly: care to give us any proof of those figures you just cited. They most likely are pipe dreams, either your’s or your government’s fantasy. So give us some proof!
today 2:56 pm live webcams…..
Tara Beach- 9 people
Bucuti – 2
Playa Linda – 4 pool
Radisson Aruba- 0-beach, 7-bar
charly dear
ya realy need to lay off the crack.. your tripping… stay away from the corners near carlos and charleys .. I think they are selling ya junk
hahaha
Charly’s desperation is showing. You and Uncle Charlie Rat are a hoot. You say the boycott’s not working but you are both obsessed with it. You guys are a riot!
I guess neither of you got the memo from Nelson Oduber.
You know, where Oduber says that Aruba has lost TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars.
By the way, a small group of protesters can make a strong point and affect hundreds if not thousands of people. Do you know how many people see those banners? Sometimes thousands walk by. Do you know how much literature is given out? Hundreds upon hundeds of flyers. Not to mention at some shows, almost a hundred totes being given out and a hundred more pens.
But the point is this–most of the people going to the travel shows AGREE with the protesters. So there are thousands at these shows who support the protesters and the cause of justice and the boycott.
In Philly, PA, we had a travel agent (a black woman, by the way, for those idiots referring to the missing white girl syndrome) who
expressed deep compassion for Natalee’s cause and said she would definitely boycott Aruba. She said since she was a travel agent, she could have some effect in that respect. Her exact words were, “do some damage with that.”
In fact, there have been many travel agents openly expressing support for our cause, justice for Natalee. Some said they never send tourists to Aruba.
The boycott is working. Just ask Uncle Nelson.
Sure, plunk some South American tourists on the beach or
fill up some hotel rooms with people looking for slashed prices.
Tourism will still tank.
Some people definitely will go anywhere, especially at 50% off.
But these same people won’t spend money on Aruba. And just how much does Aruba profit at these slashed prices? hmmmmm?
klaasend
can you tell me where and how to acess this from ALWAYS 1
since I am new I am in the dark..
BELOW
new monkeys, go to June 22, 2005 scared monkeys and read the letter from Deepok….
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SM: I’m really not sure what they are referring to. I don’t think there’s any “letter” from Deepak. There is the Deepak emails and there are witness and suspect statements from Deepak. I don’t know why the reference to June 22, 2005 though. Here is the link to the Deepak emails.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=383.0
(klaasend)
thanks klaaasend
for your sppedy reply
Yes, Klaasend, I was talking about the Deepak emails….Thank you….by the way, have you heard anything from Carpe…not like him to stay away for two days…..
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SM: No, I haven’t but I will email him and see if he responds. Maybe he’s on vacation or something? (klaasend)
UPDATE: From what I understand he had some stuff to take care of this week. I think he’ll be back in a couple days!
ALWAYS1
U ARE SO THOUGHTFUL OF OTHERS
THATS NICE
thank you misskatie, my family calls me their worrywort…
someone answer this
didnt Guido come up missing
patti
what did jorans brother say about the bathtub?
please help me understand … thanks
katie
smiles
lol patty I posted this in a few places so that ou wouldnt miss it lol
It’s okay, Katie…
I answered your question on the Beth Holloway thread. :>)
Miss Katie – #52
Yes, Guido went missing.
My opinion:
He was the one that provided the media
with the casino tapes. Posner was
livid and Guido ran for cover…
to The Netherlands (where, incidently)
It seems that EVERYONE is running to.
.
Queen Bea:
Are you there with open arms to welcome
every two-bit whore that happens along?
Or is it only the criminal types that
you, especially, enjoy?
.
Justice for Natalee!
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SM: Actually the way I understand it is Posner gave the tapes to ALE. Posner got mad when ALE sold them to the highest bidder (ABC). (klaasend)
Klaas:
Are you serious?
ALE sold important evidence
to the HIGHEST BIDDER?
.
Typical!
.
Queen Bea:
That still doesn’t change my questions to you!
.
? are you comming to Holland Patty?
Wow, what an idea. It could never happen due to a myriad of reasons, but imagine if some hotel ballroom was booked to hold all the various monkeys who post on these various threads. Sort of a Natalee convention if you will. Opinions, analyses, book signing, re-runs of past TV specials( the De Vries confession, Greta shows, ABC’s expose’,fact gathering, first hand protest reports, etc.
It’s so hard to always express exactness on these threads, and it would be refreshing to see the faces and listen to the thougths behind the dancing words on these posts. If it could only happen……..
YES, RIGHT ,EVERYBODY IS RUNNING FOR HOLLAND,
WHERE ALL SHOULD BE FOR ANSWERS…
ARUBA IS AN DUTCH ISLAND.
THE NETHERLANDS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ISLAND
SINCE WE ARE DUTCH.
ARUBANS HAVE AN EUROPEAN UNION PASSPORT.
SO FACT IS;
ARUBA IS A TROPICAL LITTLE EUROPE PARADISE…
Charly
Aruba is not a Dutch island (anymore)
Texel, Vlieland, Ameland, Terschelling those are the Dutch islands.
The Antilles is more collateral damage
so be a nice boy and go collect our money
or are we going to see you at Schiphol while they pump your stomach clean of the coke?
and fact is:
Aruba (and the Antilles) are corrupt thieves nests.
If JP Balkenende is making these claims in public you know that it must be bad.
lol alway1
you take on the cares of the world. but you are also thoughtful and considerate of others ..thats a good attribute to have.
patti
Geez where may be find his head if ever.. poof people just disappear into thin air… if they arent pleased with them they make them vainish into thin air.. the sea or land somewhere holds the secret… hopefully aruba will be seen for what it is.. vile and evil.. and possible before this is all over … their tourism will be down to nothing.. with more exposure of the holloway case..
.patti
when is peak tourism season in aruba and when is it winter there.. is this suposed to be their peak season??
CHARLEY
aRUBA IS MORE LIKE THE DEVILS DEN!!
#63 misskatie…..high is mid-dec through mid-april. low is jan -march.
today the webcams show there are 5 people on Bucuti Beach, 9 on tara Beach, 4 in the pool at Playa Linda Resort, 1 on the beach at Radisson Aruba, 5 at the bar, 6 scuba divers in the pool!! 30 folks!!
National Geographic Traveler gave Aruba a poor rating of 48, which translates into: “in serious trouble.”
Tacky downtown
little aesthetic appeal
#35 Charly
You dont know the meaning of the word GREAT DEPRESSION. If a real depression hits the USA,the economy of ARUBA will disappear. The USA had a 25 percent unenployment rate . The present rate is about six percent. CHARLY YOU BETTER PRAY THAT WE DONT HAVE A DEPRESSION.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
BTW Look at what happened in 2001 during the last recession in the USA.
[...] Its ok in Aruba to strike when it comes to wages, but not safety. These are the same people that state that its wrong to boycott Aruba with regards to “Justice for Natalee”. However, its perfectly fine for …Isn’t This Comforting. Civil servants are going to strike again … [...]
Where was Natalee killed?
Aruba
Where did the corruption and coverup occur?
Aruba
Which country is denying American citizen Natalee Holloway justice?
Aruba
Therefore, Aruba gets boycotted.
Here’s another gem for all you whiners:
On my way to the NYC protest, while walking through
Penn Station, I was carrying a Boycott Aruba sign under my arm.
In New York, Aruba’s prime market, I got
THUMBS UP in response to the sign.
cool to hear justicefornatalie… the word is getting out there
#70….i live in a very small rural town that borders nc/va and one hour from raleigh/durham. when i wear my boycott aruba t-shirt, people are always asking me “why”. first i ask them how much time do they have…then i launch into the holloway case and give them a special card i made up myself on my computer, sort of like a business card. on one side it has the names of beth and daves books to check out at their library or on amazon.com. the other side has scaredmonkeys.com and a couple of other sites they can visit to educate themselves (arubandirtypolice.com, justicefornatalee.com).
most seem very appreciative for the information. my daughter lives in raleigh, does the same thing when people ask about her t-shirt. all monkeys should do this. it only takes a few minutes out of my day and it just might get one more person on the boycott aruba bandwagon.