RSSAUM sleuths Take a look at Natalee Holloway Missing in Aruba Case … Hint, Go to Scared Monkeys … Premeditated
More sleuths try to uncover the mystery and answers of the Natalee Holloway case. They may want to start with internet investigative work that has gone on since day one following Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.
Students from three area universities and the The Auburn Montgomery Continuing Education Office and the Alabama Crime Prevention Clearinghouse met to investigate the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba. These aspiring sleuths may want to first started with the following information as to the nature of the crime.
“Students from all three universities will be working together to solve cold cases,” said Sheryl McCollum, CCIRI director.
“They will be conducting investigative research where students will formulate a theory based on every piece of research they come across.”
Research will consist of going back to the scene of the crime and interviewing detectives in to get a true sense of what they think may have happened.
A hint to these soon to be sleuths … start here at Scared Monkey’s and then here at the Scared Monkeys forum, the achieves too. You may also want to read the actual witness and suspect statements as well.
PREMEDITATED
1. Lee Ashford Broughten’s statement where Joran said nobody ever goes to CnC on Sundays
3. Chapter from Joran’s book titled “de pimps” where Joran talks about picking up tourist girls.
Thirty Students from three area universities will try to do what countless law enforcement officials in this country and on Aruba have been unable to do — solve the disappearances of Natalee Holloway and Chandra Levy.
Although Natalee Holloway will be one of the program’s two initial cases, Beth Holloway Twitty told students at the event that the program is not just about her daughter — the Mountain Brook student disappeared more than two years ago during a high school graduation trip to Aruba.
“I think we all know that,” she said. “I think that it’s about each and every individual.”
“I think the things you can uncover … will help millions and millions,” Twitty told the students.(Montgomery Advisor)
Posted February 28, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Beth Holloway, Bloggers, Corruption, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Missing Persons, Murder, Natalee Holloway, NH Statements | 39 comments |
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Any collage student should be able to solve this case in minimal time unless the student is from aruba, This could be an easy A for most students
Great…these students are going to assess (and solve?) the case pursuant to US law where Aruban law is applicable…very helpful.
Note to students (and everyone here):
noooooo, under Aruban law suspects are NOT obliged to tell the truth, lying is allowed and not considered obstruction of justice and witnesses DO NOT have to incriminate themselfs while giving their statement.
Well, let’s hope that they find some hard evidence like DNA or a reliable witness.
This is the best shot in the arm for this case. This will be the talk around three U.S. universities, their course study will be used by many others world wide! When they cannot get the answers they require to solve this that will be noted in the results. This is big! This will be referenced for future studies for a very long time. I had a fear that this case would be relegated to urban legend staus eventually, that fear is gone! Yes they could find all the answers they need to solve this here at SM, but they have to do it for themselves for credibility.
using this map could some one supply the co ordinates for the land fill? Please.
http://tinyurl.com/pbrad
Thanks
I’m confused… What MYSTERY is there to be solved?
The students OUGHT to be asking THESE questions:
WHY WOULD ARUBA THROW AWAY IT’S FUTURE TO PROTECT A MURDERER? WHY DOESN’T THE ARUBAN GOVT WANT THIS CASE PROSECUTED? WHO KNOWS WHAT ABOUT WHOM, AND THREATENS TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH IF THIS
CASE GOES TO TRIAL?
#4 LAND FILL
I think it’s a great project for them, a tribute to Natalee and also for them an education in the dangers of international travel. An awareness program for all students. I’m sure Beth is very of the students for getting involved and trying to seek the answers. Looking for Justice!
If Joran gets extradited to the US, which I think is likely this will be a big help! He murdered an American and should go to trial here.
Kudos to these stucents and their professors as that unearth just what happened in Aruba, watch Aruba what our young educated minds can and will do and show the world .
Now what is it that your youth do on Aruba again? for the good as a whole ? He,he,he yuk yuk
Oh thats right they get pictures taken, the majority with Drinks in hand to show just how mature they are and they also flash gang signs to prove their bravery ( BTW Most of the signs are incorrect send them to LA to take refresher classes (Gang signs 101 )
Aruba’s youth and quite a few of their parental figures ( Will NOT call them Parents) are sad sad sad .
Jerry from Ohio ” Complete destruction to this island unless the VD S’s and all involved in Natalee’s murder are taken to sea and dropped off in the night ” seems fair to me Aruba, what do you think ? or are these scum so much more important to you ? .
So Joran might be in the cuckoo house, I wouldn’t want the job of trying to sort out his head. You can’t cure a sociopath but perhaps the attempts of hypnosis could prove many things. I say DO IT!
aruban law caters to the criminal element and why would you think this is so? you can lie, rape, murder on aruba and the law enforcement and judges will help you. especially if you are one of their idiot kids.
aruban law is designed for criminal activity. you can tell whoever created these laws is a diehard criminal or a dumbass. my guess is both !
Remember, the Chandra Levy case also remains unsolved.
Remember, there was not last persons seen with Chandra Levy who then lied about it and changed their story numerous times….
It is always great to have another opinion.
I can’t wait; the students will come to the same conclusion as we, in about 2 days. The longest part of the investigation will be the part where the students scratch their heads and look at each other and say WTF, who initiated this cover up and how many were involved? I also hope the students are able to find out who is paying Joe Pinacolda.
Will Aruba really participae as far as letting their investigators be interviewed by these 30 students on their island? Hmmmmm I will stand by for that one to happen.
This is the beginning of the end……..
http://thedutchtimes.blogspot.com/2008/02/joran-in-psychiatric-institution.html
Bah! ….an angle…he and PVDS do nothing without
intention. If true, he is hospitalized, it is either to claim “damages” and sue for money (his poor fragile mental health was damaged by Mr DeVries/Patrick), reinforce the already stated–he was under the influence of narcotics when the undercover car tape was made, hence the need for rehab. Or someone is very close to finding Natalees remains and he is creating the defense that he was not of sound mind at the time of his actions when concealing the crime and disposing of remains.
14 Sharon
My thoughts exactly, who’s to say Aruba won’t find some law to deny them access. After all they are the masters of evasion.
Is this the equivalent of “The National Inquirer?”
#16 bleachedblack …..i’m inclined to believe it is your last assumption, that they are very close to finding Natalees remains. and i’m sure that these actions are on the advice of dear old daddy….sad….look what paulus has done to his son, the perverbial “tangled web we weave”…the sins of the father……
Aruba will say it is an “Active” investigation so they will not talk to the students. Remember they have 24 Detectives working this case. Just go to the local police station and ask the officer on duty, if they haven’t already ran out the back door!
the bible says that the sins of the father will be visited on his sons
So this means the students will actually be going to Aruba?
If so, do we really think this is a bright idea?
I have a 3rd year university student. She’s a smart kid and has a really good head on her shoulders but I wouldn’t let her go!
I just don’t see how this is a responsible decision on the part of the schools. I think they’re putting the children in harms way on so many levels.
I think the parents of the kids intending on going should be made to read this website first.
Ok here we go with the friggen’ martyr routine.
Natalee wanted this, Natalee, wanted that, Natalee wanted to go here, Natalee wanted sex. Because of Natalee I’m threatened. Natalee caused me to lie. Natalee wanted to stay on the beach.
Pull the martyr sh-t and I find a way to end your miseries.
Well said #4. I’ve wondered this myself!!!
Those questions NEED to be asked ~
I’ve said as much before ~ no one’s talking out of fear ~ (of what?, don’t know)… whatever it is, it’s BIG and has taken on a life of it’s own, not to mention at the dear cost of another human beings life… rest her dear soul and Bless Natalee.
For any Government to have allowed the sin(s)of one or more to take down the economy of an entire Island is just mind boggling to me!
I’m so suprised that there hasn’t been a peaful demonstration march of some sort by Arubans, and it’s Business community ~ to say ENOUGH!!! wow… something is very, very underlying here… FEAR is driving the bus on this Island… BIG time!
Don’t live there, so it’s hard to understand…
I think it’s great. We need to reach out to them and offer our tons of info. already collected and in turn gain some more Monkeys to help fight the fight! It’s a win win situation for all!
More Monkeys. Power to the multitude of many!
Pat yourself on the back why don’tcha ya?
Lotte Lenya on February 28th, 2008 6:20 pm
So this means the students will actually be going to Aruba?
If so, do we really think this is a bright idea?
I have a 3rd year university student. She’s a smart kid and has a really good head on her shoulders but I wouldn’t let her go!
I just don’t see how this is a responsible decision on the part of the schools. I think they’re putting the children in harms way on so many levels.
I think the parents of the kids intending on going should be made to read this website first.
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Excellent Point!!!!
Right On, Jugs Twitty!
This is not an isolated case…
at least in the normal sense of the word.
We believe that thousands, upon thousands
have died in the same way as Natalee…
They’re just not American, that’s all.
Aruba, the center for human trafficking…
.
ARAWAK!
It will be great for the students to “process map” all of the actions taken and statements from the three along with whoever else was involved….
It will spell it all out in one big picture.
GUILTY
#2 Amsterdam…. If that is true in regard to Aruban laws and there are no other “catch 22 laws” available for Aruba, why in the world would anyone….ANYONE… arrest a suspect…
That would be dumb and dumber…why would the government in Aruba set thems selves up for failure??
Why would they waste their time and money even interrogating a suspect if they condone lieing and never having to tell the truth.
What kind of lawlessness is this…Aruba’s!
No wonder that island is so full of corruption that is the foundation of Aruba, corruption!
I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND.. HOW ANYONE WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE THERE IS SO MUCH CRIME… AND TO THE PERSON THAT SAID.. IF ONE PERSON CAME FOWARD.. I THINK THEY WONT COME FOWARD BECAUSE THEY FEAR RETRIBUTION.. FROM PAUULUS.. WHO IM SURE IS INVOLVED IN MANY ASPECTS OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.. WHY ELSE WOULD HE HAVE SO MUCH POWER… DOESNT APPEAR TO ME THAT THE VANDERSLOOTS ARE RICH.. I SAY THAT BY OUTER APPEARANCE OF THEIR HOME AND THE CARS THEY DRIVE.. JR DIDNT HAVE A CAR.. UNLESS THEY HAVE THEIR MONEY IN SWISS BANKS… I KNOW THIS MAY SOUND STUPID… HE HAS TO BE TIED IN WITH .. MONEY LAUNDERING.. HUMAN TRACKING.. AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.. AND AND I BELIEVE THAT NATALEE WAS PROBABLY GANG RAPED BY ALL INCLUDING PAUULUS… TO THE PERSON THAT SAID OR PERSONS THAT SAID THAT PERHAPS SHES NOT IN THE WATERS… IT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.. AND A BIG POSSIBLILTY THAT SHE NATALEE. WAS TAKEN TO JORANS APARTMENT.. … TRUE HOW ELSE WOULD HE BE ABLE TO DETAIL HER BODY SO WELL.. ITS DARK BY THE BEACH.. IF ONLY SOMEONE HAD THE MEANS TO OFFER THE KALPOE BROTHER A MILLION EACH TO SPEAK AND THAN OFFER THEM AND THEIR MOM SAFETY ELSEWHERE… MAYBE THEY WOULD TALK.. THERES TO MUCH FEAR AND INTIMIDATION OF PAUULUS AND HIS CRONIES.. BECAUSE THEY ARE SO CORRUPT… SICK ROTTEN TO THE BONE….NO ONE WILL COME FOWARD UNLESS THEY ARE PAID AND PROMISED SAFETY… THATS SCARRY TO MANY.. NOT MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES OF THE KALPOE BROTHERS.. LATELY.. AND WONDER IF THEY HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH JORAN.. ANITA IS A SICKO TOOO. ALLOWING A 12 YR OLD TO COME TO HER PROPERTY AND HAVE SEX WITH HER SON.. IT SHOWS THAT SHE HAS LOST ALL CONTROL OF HER SON… IF SHE HAD ANY TO BEGAN WITH…. JORAN AND PAUULUS ARE PREDATORS IN THE CASINO AND BARS.. LOOKING FOR GIRLS. A GIRL DISAPEARED.. AMY WAS HER NAME.. IN ARUBA I THINK.. IT WAS SAID SHE WAS HUMAN TRAFFICKED…. SOUNDS PLAUSABLE.. DOES ANYONE THINK THATS A POSSIBILITY FOR NATALEE AND THATS WHY THERES SO MUCH HUSH.. ARE THEY TRYING TO THROW US OFF??? SOMEONE PLEASE COMMENT.. GREATLY APPRECIATE A RESPONSE… IVE GONE OVER THESE SCENARIOS IN MY HEAD.. AS WE ALL HAVE.. DRIVES ME NUTS .. HOW THEY .. HAVE NO LAWS.. MORALS… VALUES….
The only hope we can have is all those students heads together may get someone to find a clue that has slipped by any of us. ALE talk to them
fat chance!
Paulus has to be up to his ears in illegal dealings. There are NO beautiful mansions in Aruba…mediocre housing or slums mixed together. How much money does a judge in training or lawyer make in Aruba…..I’m sure not enough to pay for all those attorneys for Joran & his friends…plus all his favors are they used up yet? It stinks! What can a man afford on his salary.
The obvious direction everyone figures is the water. The landfill fire and filling in the holes they dug were suspicious! Also the cemetary damage was it to throw everyone off.
I think Paulus never REALLY told Joran for fear
he would not keep his mouth shut (forever) what
he actually did with Natalee. She obviously had to be drugged for her to accept a ride from strangers even if he said he was staying at the hotel she was. She could have easily rode with her friends. Something bad happen to her during the rape at the VanderSloots and the disposal of her body was Paulus’s doing and think Joran only knows what Paulus wanted him and his friends to think incase it slipped.
My guess is landfill or cemetary cremation and ashes mixed with others. Oh the web they weave!
10061906,
G-6.5 on your map, if you have google earth you can dial right on top of it. it is just barely past the airport on the east side slightly and then due south, right on the water.
#32 … My initial thought several years ago was that Natalee was buried in the cemetary. Although with the fish cage missiing seems like a clue that she was dumped in the ocean.
I believe Paulus showed up and told Joran to go home. I believe Joran knew she was going to be dumped in the ocean but was not there when it happened. Joran slept good, knowing pappa sloot was covering up his murdereous act of violence.
Although, another scenario might have been that they did not want to go out into ocean in the black of night and be found with a body on board if their coast guard stopped them…so who knows …I am glad all avenues are being checked out.
Either way I would think Paulus would want to get rid of the body immediately and not bury it somewhere to move it again.
But, I could be wrong…if Paulus needed to find his right corrupt contacts to dispose of Natalee he might have burried her temporarily until the next day when all arrangements could be made?
I am so glad the FBI are professionals and can read this case with all it’s clues.
I still think it is possible Paulus buried her
that night then called in a favor from the druglords or mafia that owed him a favor to fly her body off the island. He had to know keeping her body on that small island was a risk. He just seems like the kinda guy who would have
others do his dirty work. What about it Joran??
Are we getting warm???
I think the students should try to find out if the casino gambling by Paulus (and Joran) (and possibly other law enforcement) was a way for them to be paid off for favors and having the payoffs laundered thereby. Don’t know how they could peek at tax returns, though. I hope Joran has had his passport taken from him in Holland…talk about a flight risk. If things get too hot to handle he’ll make a run for it.
nctripp
thats a big possibility.. pauulus oviously has ties with the mafia and drug lords… why else would he be able to make evidence disappear.. convince people to change their statements.HAVE THE OTHER JUDGES IN HIS PACKET… and convince people to .. keep their mouths shut..or he will make them an offer they cant refuse RISK .. FLOATING IN THE CEAN)ZAP. GONE
by the way..that is something his son hasnt learned… shhhhhhhh..
he runs at the mouth.. i dont think joran could make it .. in the same capacity as hs father .theres. no way he could be involved in the mafia.. because his mouth constantly runs..as much as he wants to be looked at as gangsta material… he is a wanna be… but if he continues talking.. pauulus may not have any say… they will and can dispose of him.. make him go away…like in the godather 11 . where michael corleone.. got rid of his brother freddy.. he had his boat set to blow up.. theres no honor among crooks…
I MEANT RISK FLOATING IN THE OCEAN
oh and lets not forget .. he also makes people disapper .. poof !! gone….outta site but never outta mind..
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE