RSSIn Aruba … When a Prime Suspect (Joran Van der Sloot) in a Murder and Missing Persons case Confesses … They Let him Free
JOSSY MANSUR DISCUSSES JORAN VAN DER SLOOT GOING FREE AFTER A CONFESSION OF INVOLVEMENT IN THE DISAPPEARANCE OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY
Why would Joran Van der Sloot sleep like a baby if he left the job of disposing Natalee Holloway’s body? Maybe its because he left it in the hands of some one he completely trusted. Some one who told him to go home and it would be taken care of.
However, the three judge panel in some of the most convoluted logic ever used to determine whether a suspect should be re-arrested in a crime … let Joran Van der Sloot remain a free man.
Joran Van der Sloot through his attorney has said that he fears for his life. Well Joran, who do you have to blame for that, but yourself? Joran Van der Sloot is always the victim. At least Joran, you have a life to be fearful of, unlike that of Natalee Holloway. However, one must pose the question … does Joran really fear for his life, OR IS HE LYING!!! Low life liars don’t get it both ways. You claim you were lying on the DeVries tapes and your lawyers have stated everything you say cannot be trusted as the truth. So why should we trust what you say now?
Bert de Rooij, the lawyer of the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that his client Joran van der Sloot is in hiding in the Netherlands and fears for his life. “He’s not hiding from the police, but from a nationwide kangaroo court. He has very good reason to fear that, if he goes out, he won’t make it to the other side of the street.”
Posted February 17, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Corruption, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Jossy Mansur, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, You Tube - VIDEO | 111 comments |
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HEY, JORAN VANDER SCUM — HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE A WORLD-RENOWNED SELF-CONFESSED SOCIOPATH?
I BET WHATEVER COMMUNITY YOU ‘BLESS’ WITH YOUR PRESENCE IS GOING TO FEEL REAL SAFE, HAVING A MANICAL SERIAL RAPIST AND MURDERER IN THEIR MIDST.
AND aRUBA — HOW’S THE FISHING GOING? GET USED TO IT — THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE ON NOW. CONGRATULATIONS.
NETHERLANDS — YOU JUST PLAIN-OUT SUCK FOR HARBORING AND CODDLING HIS SORRY, CRIMINAL AZZ FOR SO LONG.
For some reason, the website links aren’t working when I bring them into the SM site. Here are the email addresses again.
ATA’s website for travel agents (“experts on aruba”). Look in “book now” and “find an aruba expert” – http://www.aruba.com
ATA’s Public Relations email – ata.pr@aruba.com
Aruban Boycott Blogspot has information about the case, a petition to sign, and addresses and emails of government officials in the Netherlands and the US – http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/
Senator Joseph Biden is Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. His email is from his website at – http://biden.senate.gov/contact/
The Texas Equusearch address is P.O. Box 395, Dickinson, Texas 77539. Indicate on your check that the donation is for Persistence/Natalee Holloway.
Contact Aruba:
Diario Aruba:
diario@setarnet.aw
Aruba Today
news@arubatoday.com
Amigoe:
webmaster@amigoe.com
Aruba Tourism Authority
Public Relations
L.G. Smith Blvd. 172
Eagle, Aruba
Dutch Caribbean
Phone: International code +(297) 582-3777
Fax: International code +(297) 583-4702
ata.pr@aruba.com
AT NIGHT, WHEN I THINK OF THE ARUBAN ECONOMY SHOOTING DOWN IN FLAMES AS IT IS, AND JORAN VAN DER SLIME GOING IN “FEAR FOR HIS LIFE” AS HE IS, I … SLEEP LIKE A BABY.
“He has very good reason to fear that, if he goes out, he won’t make it to the other side of the street.”
I AGREE; I WONDER HE HOW GOT HIMSELF INTO THIS PREDICAMENT …
JVDS needs to fear the Aruban criminal element and cover-up machine more than vigilante justice.
Joran’s confession was perfect for a professional hit job to take place now to protect the Cover-up machine.
He has taken the rap through his confession. He has not directly implicated anyone else. If he died tomorrow, AHATA would ‘crow’ that the sole murderer/perp in this case is dead and it is time for everyone to move on. AHATA and the crime machine on the island are open again for business. Bring your daughters and wives so that we can drug and rape them (and of course…murder them to…but that is only if you can find the corpse)!
Joran will be dead by the end of 2008. But it will be the dirty underworld that protected him that gets rid of him — he has created the perfect storm for him to be eliminated now. Everyone that participated in the cover-up will be covered for.
Watch out for those closest to you, Joran. Be afraid Joran. Be very, very afraid.
MD
Interesting that Joran’s lawyer says he has “VERY GOOD reason to fear” that if he tries to cross the street, he might not make it to the other side.
Isn’t this the sort of thing … taking the “sacred” law into your own hands … for which the Europeans constantly berate us “cowboy” Americans?
Or does Joran think American tourists have their eyes open?
Either way, it sounds to me about as plausible as the comments of parents van der Scum that they fear Joran might try suicide. The little bastard is doing what rats do … hiding.
His “acquaintances,” according to an earlier article (would anyone want the title of being Joran’s “friend”?), say he’s in Germany. Another way of throwing dust in the eyes of the world?
Does everyone remember the case of Natasha Kumpisch (spelling probably wrong), the Austrian girl who was kidnapped off the street at age 10 and held in a cellar for eight years?
Interesting story out today … it appears that the Austrian government fumbled leads which COULD have led to her discovery some few weeks after she was taken.
There is a political uproar; the chief of police has been told that his contract will not be renewed; and the anger is such that the government may fall (this is possible under the parliamentary system).
Compare this with Aruba … or with Curacao in the case of Amy Bradley (her parents, on one of their searches, was told by an official: “You can look for her all you want, but you’ll never find her”) … or with the Joel Gove case on Saba.
What is it about the Netherlands Antilles?
Boycott Aruba, for sure … and heed Beth’s call to avoid all the Netherlands Antilles until there was justice.
While I’m here … can any of our Aruban or Dutch friends tell us if action has been taken to strip Paulus vdScum of his right to practice law?
If not, why not?
” … AND heed Beth’s call to avoid all the Netherlands Antilles until there was justice.”
– DON’T WORRY; I’M NOT EVER GOING TO THAT NUTHOUSE ZOO OR TO ‘NOTHERN ARUBA’ (THE GOOD OL’ VAN-DER-SLIME-ENABLING NETHERLANDS) AGAIN.
ASCREWBA SEEMS TO BE UNDER THE MISTAKEN IMPRESSION WE SOMEHOW O-W-E THEM OUR TOURIST DOLLARS.
WRONG AGAIN, DING-A-LINGS; DEAD WRONG.
WE ARE UNDER N-O O-B-L-I-G-A-T-I-O-N TO SPEND OUR VACATION MONEY THERE — AND WE AREN’T.
I am not surprised Joran has not been arrested even after confessing how many times, and on video too!
Will somebody please lock that sick ba@tard up where he can do no further harm or either prosecute him.
Aruba could have arrested and convicted him a long time ago but the island is controlled by criminals which is evident.
Boycott. don’t tell me about the Aruba people. They gave Beth hell and even protested her for speaking out about their criminal run island.
Bonbini,
In case some of you missed my earlier postings, this is a list of business that are prospering on “happy island”. Contact their headquarters, send emails, remind them of what happens to US citizens when the travel to Aruba. These are names that we all recognize. Perhaps we need to be mindful of where we spend our money here at home, until there is a resolution to Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.
Radio Shack, Heineken, Benetton, Fendi, Gucci, Sears, Servistar, True Value, Cartier, Terminix, Hooters, Tony Rama, Ernst and Young, Nautica, Athlete’s Foot, Red Sail Sports, Hugo Boss, Polo Ralph Lauren, Salvatore Ferragamo, Nike, Mango, Hyatt, Radisson, Marriott, Occidental, Westin, Holiday Inn, La Quinta, Re/Max, Orbitz, Wyndham, American Express, Harley Davidson, Toyota, MacDonalds, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and Wendys.
The following cruiselines currently have scheduled stops on the miserable island of Aruba, during the next six months. During the period of time that US citizens disembark in the port of Oranjestad, they could be subjected to theft, kidnapping, drugging, and murder. The corrupt legal system in Aruba does not protect American citizens. Please do not support these cruiselines until the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is resolved.
AIDA Cruises, Princess, Royal Caribbean, Pulmantur, Holland American, Hapag Lloyd, Majestic, Celebrity, Fred Olsen, Crystal, Cunard, P and O, Club Med, Astor, Dolphin Maritime, Windstar, and Disney.
Joran… you’ll always have Monkees on your back. Ha Ha!!
Hes walking free like an ex convict even though hes never been formerly convicted. I would say he will be held accountable the rest of his years… but its hard to do(be accountable) when you’ve be smokin the good Jamaican stuff since you were in diapers.
Will Natalees family ever be able to bring some kind of wrongful death suit against Sporter and Aruba is still something I’d like to see. I’d like to see Joran pay financially and suffer emotionally his whole life for the hell he has put that family through.
5. MD. Again, I agree with you. Those who stuck their necks out to cover for JVDS are the ones whom Joran needs to fear.
6. Richard. Let’s not forget Max DeVries and Bud Larsen who also “just sort of vanished” in Aruba.
Not only did Joran not call for help, neither did Paulus.
The Persistance will have 150 dives to make, they see some things that look man-made in the sea…they could bring up more than just Natalee….Aruba tried very hard to keep us from searching the water…
1. J2K leave C&C with Natalee
2. Gardener sees J2K (or J1K) around 2:30 near Racquet Club
3. J2K can’t agree on how Joran got home.
4. Joran is missing his shoes.
5. Melody, a friend of Joran’s, posts that Joran told someone on Monday that Natalee was missing.
6. Satish wakes up Monday and asks Deepak how the girl is doing.
7. Joran gets ride to racquet club but there are allegedly 4 hours of unaccounted for time and a missing duffel bag.
8. Beth and Jug arrive in Aruba, get a name for Joran by someone who says they recognize him, he preys on tourists.
9. Paulus calls Joran and leads everyone away from Sloot house.
10. Joran arrives at home and says Natalee was drinking, maybe doing drugs, was falling asleep and waking up in the car, talking crazy and they had sexual contact of some sort and he dropped her off at the hotel where she fell and hit her head. Joran tells US reporters on camera that they were scared and the Twitty’s weren’t acting right.
11. Joran gives statement to police.
12. Police take Beth’s statement and she sees a torn up statement with JVDS’s name on it on Dennis Jacob’s desk.
13. Beth and Jug are asked if Natalee has a history of seizures. Dave Holloway is asked the same thing.
14. Security guards are arrested, even though security tapes show Natalee was not dropped off in front of HI where J2K say guards were.
15. J2K sit around pool and decide to continue to lie about dropping Natalee off. Joran says on US TV that they were afraid they’d get in trouble.
16. Paulus advises “no body/no case”.
17. J2K arrested and story changes to Marriott Beach drop off.
18. Dave Holloway wants Dompig to talk to Koen Gottenbos. Says Koen was very nervous and has a boat.
19. Dompig and Rudy Croes announce confession and body found until Paulus’s friend, Chief van der Straaten is reassigned to case and retracts announcement of confession and body.
20. Dompig refuses to talk to Koen, talks to Koen’s father. Member of prosecution team quits because police won’t follow up on this.
21. Kalpoes released, later Joran is released.
22. In interview with US reporter, Joran says Natalee wasn’t that drunk or high on drugs.
23. Joe Tacopina is hired to defend Joran in US media and file lawsuits because Anita says that Beth has “gone too far”.
21. Joe says he has a dozen witnesses that Natalee was over the top drunk.
22. Joran tells ABC and Fox reporters that Natalee had been drinking but was ok, knew what she was doing.
23. Joran changes his story about getting home from walking to Deepak to Satish.
24. Joran tells a “friend” that Natalee had a seizure and he called a friend to help him, instructing that friend not to call police. He tells this “friend” that he’s lucky they didn’t find her. He says he slept well that night and went to the casino the next day to be on camera, establishing an alibi FOR THE NIGHT THE TWITTY’S ARRIVED IN ARUBA.
It’s pretty clear to any reasonable person that Joran van der Sloot is involved in Natalee’s disappearance. But the 3 judge panel from Curacao, judges who know and have worked, possibly socialized, with Paulus van der Sloot, agree with Joe Tacopina that Joran just has a personality problem.
Yes, Mr. O’Reilly, they are covering for him.
Seems like everybody wants a piece of Joran not just those who protected him…wonder how many boxes of diapers Keon has gone through….gotta have diaper rash by now…
The courts admit that Joran has a serious personality disorder…you know Joran and his uncontrollable temper…something else bad is going to happen and just what will that be blamed on…
What if the underworld made paulass take out his evil spawn like the mob made Tony Soprano take out his cousin
14. Brie. Thanks for the update. The Persistance might just solve some other mysteries.
MD………i agree with you totally. I am so outraged Joran wasn’t arrested. Somehow or other, I see very bad things happening to him.
Isn’t there anything we can do about this situation? Yes, by all means “boycott”.
Don’t we have some high powered lawyers in America that can figure out some way to get him arrested? There has got to be a way. We need some very creative lawyering here!
Here is some corporate information for businesses that are prospering on the corrupt happy island, while American citizens are subjected to theft, druggings, rape, kidnapping, and murder.
McDonald’s
McDonald’s Plaza
Oak Brook, IL 60523 USA
Phone: 630-623-3000
Web: http://www.mcdonalds.com
(Isn’t this where Papa picked up Urine and Natalee!!!)
Wendy’s
4288 West Dublin-Granville Road
P.O. Box 256
Dublin, OH 43017-0256 USA
Phone: 614-764-3100
Web: http://www.wendys.com
Yum! Brands (Taco Bell and Pizza Hut)
1441 Gardiner Lane
Louisville, KY 40213 USA
Phone: 502-874-8300
Web: http://www.yum.com
NIKE
1 Bowerman Dr.
Beaverton, OR 97005-6453 USA
Phone: 503-671-6453
Web: http://www.nike.com
Toyota
1300 Cravens Ave
Torrance, CA 90501 USA
Phone: 310-468-4000
Web: http://www.toyota.com
Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation
650 Madison Ave.
New York, NY 10022 USA
Phone: 212-318-7000
Web: http://www.polo.com
Disney
500 S Buena Vista St.
Burbank, CA 91521 USA
Phone: 818-560-1000
Web: disney.go.com
Joran Van der Sloot,”MOORDENAAR”
#14 Brie yes it going to be real interesting what they bringup- maybe some other missing people.
Joran afraid for his life? You think Natalee might have been afraid for HER life?
I hate that his lawyer is leaving the impression someone unknown person might take Joran out. He’s not worth going to jail for, and the worst the public would do would be to call him names and stuff.
So I have a different idea of who Joran might be afraid might take him out….how about some of those who have been covering for him?
I mean, after all, Joran did say just enough in the De Vries tape to suggest Natalee was having seizures, was quite possibly alive, and was handed over to someone he called for help….and that something went on that made Joran not want the cops involved.
And that was VERY STUPID of Joran! He forgot to implicate his accomplices…
So now they know Joran is stupid, will talk out of his ass to people, and might need to be silenced.
#14 Brie
Where can we get information on what Persistence is finding. Their website updates have been sporadic and they say that the seas have been too rough to do much lately. I’d like to know more about what they have found.
Hey Sporter – While weeding thru your pack of lies, I think ya might have some truth in there, like ya did use a payphone that night. I just don’t think it was the one you said. For 3 years ya convinced yourself this nightmare happened to ‘you’ on the beach therefore you had to tell Patrick you used a phone on the beach.
Well, I think ya might have used the marina payphone — the one here at http://www.r-ftogo.com/store/Chubby.asp?ImageNumber=933711 in thh stock photo of the payphone on Aruba. Hope ya used your credit card so some honest members of ALE can trace it.
Ja mon. Watch your back cuz your ‘higher power’ pals maybe getting real sick of your blabby mouth mon.
I believe the ALE cover up started on June 10, 2005.
When Joran confessed and was leading the ALE to the body of Natalee. Joran did not know that his father and others in the legal and political jobs elped Paulus. Then they had to cover it up, to many people involved.
Aruba now needs investigating. A full blown confession over several days and no arrest? C-MON!! American officials need to step up. Hell,politicians where are you? Step up. Might make voting decisions easier. I can promise my vote to whomever gets involved. Make it a crime to visit this brother island to Venezuela.
Joran should be afraid…ver very afraid…its commin like a freight train…”KARMA”… you can run and lie and lie some more to us to mere humans but when Big Daddy Karma gets around to dealing with You and Your Family look out….you won’t have time or presence of mind ’cause Karma don’t mess around when it comes to your kind!!!!!
Hmmmmmm, Joran and Paulus always playing a few poker hands each night at casino’s. Making money? Psssssssst
“CARACAS, Venezuela — Some Venezuelans gamble in neighboring Aruba. Others sell part of the purchasing power of their credit cards to brokers who turn it into dollars. Still others cross into Colombia to sell subsidized goods bought in Venezuela.
All, in their unique ways, are getting around the tight currency controls that President Hugo Chavez imposed in 2005 as a way to keep prices for staple goods in check in Venezuela.
“We’re talking about several million dollars a day,” said Robert Bottome, publisher of the VenEconomia business newsletter, referring to the illegal trade in U.S. dollars in this nation of 27 million people.
The idea behind all the scams is to find a way to profit from the gap between the official exchange rate, about 2,150 bolivares to the dollar these days, and the close to 3,500 bolivares it takes to buy one dollar on the thriving black market.
One of the more innovative scams involves credit cards. Venezuelan credit cards give their holders up to a $3000 “allotment” to purchase goods – in dollars – over the Web and up to a $5000 allotment for travel. Many people can’t afford to use this “allotment,” so money changers buy them for a nominal fee, then make the transactions so they can trade the dollars on the black market.
To carry out the scam for the Internet purchases, the money changers set up front companies abroad. They then use the credit card in Venezuela to make purchases from the fronts. The money goes into the companies’ accounts abroad, which the money changers can then bring back to Venezuela and sell on the black market, while paying the credit card debt at the lower official rate.
An example: A “purchase” of a $100 radio over the Internet would cost 215,000 bolivares. But the $100, returned to Caracas, would fetch closer to 350,000 bolivares on the black market. The radio doesn’t change hands and may not exist.
“It’s a question of volume,” said one black market trader who remained anonymous to avoid prosecution. “The price and the product doesn’t even matter … It’s the dollars that count.”
People in the world’s fifth largest oil producer scrambling for dollars may seem odd, but it is a familiar pattern here. Successive Venezuelan governments have spent wildly during high-price eras, fueling inflation, while doing little to alleviate a dependency on foreign imports that supports a constant need for dollars.
Measures to reign in this problem have varied but have never met with much success and often led to widespread street violence.
Despite promises to break this pattern, Chavez seems to be repeating many of the mistakes of his predecessors and now faces 20 percent inflation, the highest in the Western Hemisphere. His current policy is a mix of currency controls, tax cuts, issuing new bonds and cracking down on what government advertisements say are “hoarders and speculators.”
It hasn’t worked. Dollars continue to leave faster than they come in – Venezuela registered a negative Foreign Direct Investment rate last year – and the government debt is soaring.
The government regulatory agency, known by its acronym CADIVI, did not respond to repeated attempts to seek comment on its policies or the results of the announced crackdown.
That leaves the vast majority of Venezuelans scrambling for dollars, often with the plethora of money changers who ply their trade right in front of the National Assembly buildings.
“Many of my clients are politicians,” said Frank, a money-changer who did not want to give his full name. “They change $20,000 or $30,000 per day.”
Those who don’t have access to so much cash have other options.
Some buy subsidized goods – everything from rice to oil – in Venezuela and sell them in neighboring Colombia for increasingly strong Colombian pesos.
Credit-card holders also go to places like Curacao and Aruba, just a short trip from Venezuela. There, they use their cards to buy poker chips, play a few hands, then turn in their chips for dollars. The dollars are then put into savings accounts or traded back at the black market rate, while the credit card is paid off at the official rate.
The clear long-term loser is Venezuela’s economy, says VenEconomia’s Bottome, especially as inflation climbs and foreign investment sinks. “When you plug in the numbers, the nation screwed itself,” he said.”
Does anyone have the interview with Art Woods from “The Lineup” last night. I would like to hear what he had to say about Aruba having Paulus computer records showing his searches of acohol and drugs the night Natalee was killed
#30 Art mentioned that he believes it was Paulus who Joran called and not anyone by the name of Daury.
It was good to hear it be said!
I’d like to see Joran undergo hypnosis…there has to be some way to get into his brain and talk to the demons, of course, his head might spin around…
The Aruban justical system did not believe Joran should be arrested…. probably because his tape confession does not involve the Kalpoes…. and this would hinder their next move of making sure that the Kalpoes were arrested for Natalee’s murder and not Joran.
#24…SS…. I’ll see if I can find it for you…I listened to and watched it on video, very interesting, it was all taped on the Persistence…I’m looking…be back later…
JVDS will be haunted for life. Every story he has given contains some truth. The hard part is putting the pieces together. He will live in fear for the rest of his life and always be looking over his shoulder and sleeping with one eye open now that everyone has seen the undercover tape.
#24…ss…Here you go, back up to Scared Monkeys Welcomes Bill O’Reilly and Geraldo Rivera, just posted FEB 16th, go to comments post #123, our dear friend Carpe, and click on the video…
Many agree that “Daury” is Paulus. Joran called his father and he was told to go home because in the morning he had to act as if nothing had happened. The call was reported early on by a blog informant:
Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:09 pm
You can’t remember answering a phone call at 2:00 in the morning? When the next day your son was picked up?
Joran went home and sleept like a baby. How could he, after leaving his dad with a dead body? Why didn’t he have perturbing thoughts about the possibility that his father could be caught with a corpse in hand? There had to be someone of power and authority with Paulus in order for Joran to take it so easy. Who could have accompanied Paulus to the scene that would have made Joran feel so confident?
Joran Van der Sloot hung himself with his own words in the court of public opinion. It may be the public outcry that forces authorities to prosecute him. But, clearly the Aruban legal system doesn’t want to do that. Too many crooked judges and cops as well as corrupt politicians, many of whom had knowledge of this crime or participated in the cover-up.
I’m not sure the Dutch will step in and do the job either, but with enough pressure, they might. I hope and pray that Peter De Vries will now go after those who assisted in the coverup. It’s encouraging to see the MSM finally getting on that bandwagon too.
And I am glad to hear that many Aruban people realize now they have been misled and lied to by their government, law enforcement as well as the Van der Sloots, and are angry about it. IMO, Joran’s confession will only increase the number of people boycotting Aruba and their tourism numbers will sink further.
Those who assisted in the cover-up must now fear their involvement will be discovered. It will be. The truth will come out – it always does. Of course, he who talks first always gets the best deal, guys.
Greta asked jossy if sloots were rich,she was wondering if they could afford all the lawyers,jossy was not sure who pays bills sure would say a lot if it was not sloot family paying bills.
30. Boycott Aruba. I missed the show last night but am glad to hear Art Woods mentioned it. There’s a copy of it right here in the SM forum, translated into English. I sent the link to Greta when they were emphasizing ALE having asked Beth about seizures within the first few days.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=196.0
#25 Poochie
That picture you posted of the pay phone booth by the marina….
Someone had posted very early on in this case something about Natalee being hidden inside a shed-like structure near a boat dock that also had covered dock spaces for boats.
I just thought this was curious.
We need to have some big news coverage for the Aruba boycott. I’m not getting anything on the regular news or the newspapers, and periodicals aren’t really covering much of anything. We need some BIG front page coverage to rally the rest of the US.
#37 “Who could have accompanied Paulus to the scene that would have made Joran feel so confident?”
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For Joran to feel so confident, Natalee was probably taken to the VDS house where he would know for a fact he was not in trouble YET.
Paulus picked ‘them’ up….remember Paulus slipping that one out at one point? Paulus picked up Joran AND Natalee and took them both to the VDS house….where Joran, NO, did not go straight to sleep. First he played around calling Deepak on the phone from his house (it was said Joran’s house and that spot on the beach he claimed to have been with Natalee had the same cell tower triangulation) to make it appear he was not home; Then he got online and looked up some stuff; then Paulus sent Joran to bed and he was all like….But it’s almost time to go to school! And Paulus was like….Just GO and let me handle this!
i would like to ask someone from holland a question. i’d like an answer from someone who understands law and understand the nuances of aruba. i dont care to hear from anyone from aruba as i would not believe a word of their answer. joran admitted to planning the operation that led to natalee’s body being disposed of. why arent charges being filed for this at least? if it’s a judge and not a jury, my guess is joran would say in court that he did not participate, but of course the judge would have the luxury of having seen the tape. he admitted to this. why are you not charging him for it?
NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO ARUBA AGAIN. DO YOU UNDERSTSAND THIS? WE ARE NEVER COMING AGAIN.
I just wonder what Pope Benedict XVI, or the Vatican Rights Counsel in Rome would think about Natalee’s human rights being victimized by Aruban authorities.
The Pope is not one to comment or be involved in politically charged matters, but I think he would certainly look upon Aruba with a frowned eye.
It dosen’t take too much to see that Joran and Paulus robbed Natalee of allowing her soul to rest peacefully. Joran, you stupid bastard, when God has you on the list………you are destined for an eternity in hell.
#44…that’s what I was trying to say earlier…..they don’t need to abandon all of what Joran said just because part of it was a lie.
Joran throws a blanket around his entire conversations as if every word of them were lies….and they are letting him do it!
He should at the very least been charged with obstruction of an ongoing investigation.
Lets go everyone. Allout Boycott on Aruba. If Justice will not be served, let them not hear the end of it.
Oh yea right Van der Stratten just happenns to ‘retire’ when all this shit went down. More like he didn’t have any underwear left he hadn’t crapped in. What a ******* coward, instead of staying on the job and doing the right thing he just kind of ‘disappears’. How convenient. Thats’ a real great example of leadership.
I’m not sure the Dutch will step in and do the job either, but with enough pressure, they might. I hope and pray that Peter De Vries will now go after those who assisted in the coverup. It’s encouraging to see the MSM finally getting on that bandwagon too.
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I think Peter De Vries is just proof the Dutch don’t buy into Joran’s and the Van der Sloot bullshit. The legions will grow. Anyone with the last name ‘Van der Sloot’ should probably change it.
I remember early on hearing reports that at least one if not a couple of young women came forward and claimed they had also been date rape drug victims of Joran & co. I’ve been searching for information regarding these claims but haven’t been able to find anything. Does anyone have any knowledge of this and/or can provide a link?
I’ve always been of the belief that Natalee was slipped a drug and that she wasn’t Joran’s first victim. As horrible as this sounds, where there’s a drug induced gang-raped victim, there’s pictures. You know those boys were taking trophy pictures via cell phone or digital camera and sharing them with friends and likely for profit. It seems to me that if pictures could be found of any of Joran & co’s past victims, those boys would be cutting deals with the DA and ratting out Joran pretty darn quick.
Joran won’t be haunted by this gang rape and murder of Natalee. He won’t be looking over his shoulder every day. He won’t lose a minute of sleep over it. He is incapable of these normal feelings. The only thing that will annoy him is how much harder it will be to play his “rape the pretty tourist on her last night in town” game.
Oh, and where is Anita’s camera?
New slogan for Natalee Holloway T-Shirts:
GIVE A HOOT
DON’T POLLUTE…
GET RID MEN NAMED
VAN DER SLOOT !!!
— J4N
GIVE A HOOT
DON’T POLLUTE
GET RID OF MEN NAMED
VAN DER SLOOT ! ………….OR……..
GIVE A HOOT, DON’T POLLUTE.. RID THE EARTH
OF VAN DER SLOOTS !!!!!!!!!!
#12- Lil Puma or SM:
Who are Max DeVries & Bud Larsen?
Thanks……
STICK A FORK IN ARUBA. A.K.A. ‘ONE CORRUPT ISLAND’ — IT’S DONE.
MAYBE THEY CAN BASE THEIR NEW “ECONOMY” ON SEASHELLS, ‘CAUSE THERE SURE AIN’T MUCH MONEY CIRCULATING NOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
NORTHERN ARUBA, A.K.A ‘THE NETHERLANDS,’ Y-O-U HAVE HAD A DIRECT HAND IN THIS DECIMATION, BECAUSE YOU HAVE HARBORED AND CODDLED AND WIPED THE AZZ OF SELF-CONFESSED CRIMINAL MONSTER JORAN VAN DER SLIME FOR ALMOST 3 YEARS NOW, RATHER THAN BRINGING THE MANIAC TO JUSTICE.
I NO LONGER EXPECT ANYTHING AT ALL FROM ASCREWBA, EXCEPT TO WATCH IN SINCERE AND THE DEEPEST OF GRATICFICATION AS THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE CONTINUES UNTIL UTTER CHAOS ENSUES.
I HAVE ABOUT AS MUCH COMPASSION FOR ARUBANS AS THEY HAVE HAD FOR NATALEE AND HER FAMILY, WHICH IS ZILCH.
AZZHOLE JORAN’S COST YOU ABOUT $10 MILLION IN A LITTLE UNDER 3 YEARS. HOPE YOU THOUGHT THE VIOLENT SOCIOPATH WAS WORTH IT.
YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THING — LONG, LONG AGO.
I thought that this was a fitting response to the title post for this blog. Has anybody heard from Nelson lately? This is from 6/10/05 and it just makes me want to scream.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Finding 18-year-old Natalee Holloway (search) is “priority No. 1″ for Aruba and no one will be above the law in the investigation and prosecution of those responsible for the American’s disappearance, the Dutch Caribbean island’s prime minister told FOX News on Friday.
Prime Minister Nelson Orlando Oduber (search) called a meeting Friday morning with Aruba’s chief of police and other officials to determine if more assistance is needed in the search, which has so far turned up no evidence of Holloway’s whereabouts.
“It is our responsibility, legal and moral, for the good of our relationship” to investigate and prosecute the case to the fullest, Oduber told FOX News on Friday, noting that Aruba has relied on tourist business for 50 years. “We work together, we care for people … Nobody stands above the law.”
Holloway’s disappearance had left Arubans “in a state of shock and disbelief,” he said.
“The hearts of the people of Aruba are touched by Natalee and her family,” he said.
Meanwhile, one of the attorneys for the five men arrested in the case so far said Friday that Holloway went to an Aruban beach with the Dutch teenager in custody the night she disappeared and had sexual contact with him in the car.
ODUBER, ODD-DOOBER, WHATEVER THE HELL YOUR NAME IS … TAKE IT FROM ME — WE CONSIDER YOU A-L-L TO BE COMPLETELY FULL OF SH*T DOWN THERE.
LET THE DECIMATION CONTINUE UNTIL YOUR ECONOMY COMPLETELY COLLAPSES.
I’M KIND OF GETTING INTO IT NOW … ‘THE ARUBA DEATHWATCH.’
There will be 1 more bomb shell !!! When the Persistance finds Natalee aruba will say:
She put herself in the crab trap
#57 WHERE’S NATALEE
I think the concept of putting pressure on their economy is awesome by not going to Aruba..I am not sure how much that will really affect those that have perpetrated the crime Joran, Paulus, the entire legal system in Aruba it won’t hurt them…and of course the Motherland the Netherlands they don’t care this is just a little cog in the wheel of the golden triangle and drug trade they could care less if anybody lives or goes to Aruba its clearly not their concern….I was thinking It might be more to the jugular if we did something about their drug imports into the US since we are their biggest customers….maybe made it real hard for them to get their poison into the US that would hurt their pocket book!!!!
#58
you are right,Sloots,still think this is just gonna go away? The WORLD now is tuned in. This case is hotter than ever. So are the people all over the WORLD. Beth is relentless,she will keep your feet to the fire.
He never looked afraid for his life in any of the pictures or interviews he gave. He didn’t look suicidal either.
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He can thank whoever did the dirty work for him in a legal fashion for his predicament.
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Can’t tell the entire truth as to who his ” helper ” was, can’t live the way he is living.
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That’s quite a coffin they have made for him, isn’t it.
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Oh well, Joran, have more to drink, do some more drugs and look over your shoulder for the rest of your life. It isn’t me that is going to come after you or a tangible person, it is YOU that you have to be afraid of. Or the person(s) who assisted you so wonderfully, they have screwed you over !
This is the beginning of the letter that Oduber sent to all 50 governors after Alabama and Arkansas supported the boycott. He is trying to portray Aruba as the “tiny country” victim.
Well Nelson, we don’t like it when you rob, drug, kidnap, and murder your American visitors. And yes, we will have peace of mind when your corrupt country is bankrupt. American visitors aren’t safe in Aruba and you do nothing to protect your visitors.
December 7, 2005 Government of Aruba: Letter to U.S. Governors from Prime Minister Nelson Oduber
As you may already know, the states of Alabama and Arkansas have made official statements encouraging their citizens to avoid visiting our island, Aruba, as a method to accelerate or intervene in the investigation of the missing young American, Natalee Holloway – in the words of Governor Huckabee, “out of respect for the Holloway family.” It is hard to believe that anyone in the world’s richest country would find satisfaction and peace of mind by economically harming a tiny, nearby country. Most American states have a wide variety of industries, services, and economic development activities. In Aruba we have only one ? tourism, primarily from American visitors.
If Joran did no bodily harm to Natalee than there was no reason for him or his helper not to call for help. Even if he gave her a date rape drug he could have denied it (something he is very good at). So why in God’s name was she disposed of instead of being brought for help or even reported that she had gotten sick and passed away. It seems to be the Island mentality that hiding, evading, covering, sweeping, and lieing is the way to go. Otherwise someone would have grown some “balls” by now and spoken up. It’s like some kind of dictatorship.
SORRY; ALL I’VE EVER SEEN ON T.V. IS ARUBANS BLAMING NATALEE FOR GETTING HERSELF “DISAPPEARED” AND PROTESTING ABOUT BETH “BOTHERING” THEM WHEN HER D-A-U-G-H-T-E-R VANISHED WHILE ON THEIR ‘CRAPPY’ ISLAND.
THEY ONLY SEEMED TO START CARING WHEN THEIR WALLETS WERE HIT, TO THE TUNE OF 10′S OF MILLIONS OF NEGATIVVE TOURIST DOLLARS.
AND THE OFFICIALS AND ‘GOVERNMENT’ THERE ARE A JOKE, PURE AND SIMPLE.
IF YOU’RE LOOKING FOR SYMPATHY HERE, ARUBA WILL GET AS MUCH AS IT HAS SHOWN NATALEE, BETH, AND THEIR FAMILY THESE PAST 3 YEARS — WHICH IS NONE.
54. A New Girl. Max DeVries is a little boy who went missing in Aruba. Bud Larsen is a windsurfer who disappeared in Aruba. I think he was in his 30′s at the time. His father and brother got the run-around when they went to Aruba to look for him.
This is the link to the full letter that Prime Minister Oduber sent to all of our Governors. I am amazed that he could write a letter like this. knowing the depth of the corruption and coverup that had taken place. I guess we are the “dubious” individuals who always surface at times like these.
brochures.aruba.com/holloway/To-US-Governors.pdf
Hey.
Did anybody watch Geraldo last night during
his sign off? I believe he lost some of his
dental work while on air! He smiled really
big and looked just like one of those dang
jack-o-lantern’s.
It was like his front grill got poked out.
-j4n
Transcript of last nights The LINEUP transcribed by Heli at RU:
The Lineup
February 16 ,2008
Guest: Art Wood
Kimberly:
Unbelievable! Despite those chilling words from Joran van der Sloot, along with an admission that he asked a friend to dispose of Natalee Holloway’s body, a Judge has decided not to re-arrest him.
We’re joined by retired Secret Service Agent and Holloway friend, Art Wood who investigated Natalee’s disappearance. Thanks for being with me tonight Art.
Art Wood:
Hi Kimberly, it’s always a pleasure
Kimberly:
So how are we going to solve this case once and for all and get some justice for the Holloway family? Does this computer, Joran’s computer herhaps hold the key to the case?
Art:
Kimberly, it’s Paulus’ computer that holds the key to this case. Let me tell you, I want to tell you 3 very quick little things. I think this is a bombshell.
First of all, in the first week of June Michael Dompig who was Chief Dompig’s young son told Dave Holloway that Paulus van der Sloot borrowed a friend’s boat on the day Natalee disappeared.
Number 2, in Joran’s confession he says that Natalee was shaking and shivering before she died, he was graphic in that description.
Kimberly:
Yes
Art:
Then we find out that he called a friend to come help him? Right? Well, guess what Natalee? Or guess what Kimberly? I think that that friend was his father Paulus van der Sloot. If you listen to this quick exchange, he says:
‘I called him. What happened? Told him what happened. Told him come here, come, come, come. He arrived, he said that is not possible. You must go home. I said, no. I can’t let you take responsibility for this. He said you’re going home. I arranged the rest.’
He went home then. Does that sound like an exchange between a father and son?
Kimberly:
It sure does to me. I find it persuasive, it makes a lot of sense and it makes sense that Joran wouldn’t give his father up to that friend, Patrick of his who he was making the confession to. I mean, it makes a lot of sense and also his statement in general makes sense and appears to be consistent with the evidence as we know it in this case
Art:
It absolutely does. I don’t think there’s any doubt.
Kimberly:
What’s the next step though because the Judge has set the bar, the standard so high that even though Joran confessed to the crime he still won’t re-arrest him but the prosecutor is still keeping the case open
Art:
Well the prosecutor is going to have to dig harder because, listen Paulus van der Sloot didn’t drive the boat, all he did was call a friend and get rid of the body and listen here it is, it’s right here, it says right here when the aruban police force seized his computer and examined the hard drive they found that on the day Natalee disappeared Paulus visited some websites looking at at the effects of alcohol and drugs on a body. That’s a bombhsell.
Kimberly:
Yes, no I’m with you on that, I hear you, I’m on the same page. Let’s bring in out panel, they’re going to do some discussion on this and you can jump in if you have something to add.
Let’s go to Robin Sax. What do you make of these developments and the information Art has just given us?
Robin:
Well, from the moment that I heard “Daury” when I listened to the tape, to myself “Daury” was always daddy to me. It was clear that from the beginning, his attitude and the respect that apparently the Bench has for Mr. van der Sloot, that he was going to be protected no matter what
Kimberly:
Alright, Joey is this a case that’s ever going to be able to attain a conviction because in essence the bar has been set so high, they’re failing to re-arrrest him, the Appeals Court didn’t allow it to happen, yet the case remains open. What is it going to take to move this case?
Joey Jackson, Defense Attorney:
Well you know Kimberly, here’s the problem and the problem is that this would be the third time that van der Sloot was arrested. Let’s talk about it for a minute about it initially: there’s been 10 arrests in this case from the outset, the suspects were let go. There was a re-arrest in November, they couldn’t hold him there and let’s talk about the issue of the bar being set high. Under Dutch law in order to arrest someone all you need is reasonable cause to believe that a crime was committed, that’s the standard and that’s not really high of a standard.
Now, let me tell you what concerns me. What concerns me is that under Dutch Law, as you know, they’re not jury trials, a Judge is making an assessment as to guilt or innocence, so a Judge has made the judicial assessment that there’s not going to be re-arrest in this case and I think the basis for that might be that the things were calling confessions which are his statements on the videotape are so contradictory to existing things that they know about the case that the Judge is not willing to do that so therefore, I think it’s going to drag on.
Kimberly:
Art Wood I want to thank you for joining us tonight and giving us that very helpful and crucial information. Wish you luck on this case
I REALLY, HONESTLY COULDN’T POSSIBLY CARE LESS ABOUT ODD-DOOBER OR ARUBA OR ITS ECONOMY.
I EXPECT NOTHING AT ALL FROM THEM ANYMORE, EXCEPT TO WATCH WITH DEEP SATISFACTION AS THEIR TOURIST-BASED ECONOMY CONTINUES ITS ACCELERATING COLLAPSE.
IT’S LIKE WATCHING A BAD COMEDY SHOW — THEY WANT PEOPLE TO VISIT THEIR ISLAND; IN FACT, HAVE TO HAVE THAT INCOME TO SURVIVE, BUT PERPETUALLY SHOW THE WORLD THAT THEY DON’T GIVE A RAT’S AZZ IF TOURISTS ARE RAPED, MURDERED, AND ‘DISAPPEARED’ WHILE THERE.
THEN THEY FEEL ANGRY, SORRY FOR THEMSELVES, AND PUT-UPON WHEN TOURISTS STOP COMING.
I’M BEGINNING TO THINK THEY’RE ALL NUTS.
Thank you Deetch. Didn’t catch the whole thing on TV
when urine van der sloot dies , I wonder what he is going to tell the Ultimate Judge. He can’t be influnced by the corrupt people in Aurba. I hope Natalie is there as well to see justice done finally. At least urine will live a life of hell here on out and continue after he dies.
You are hell bound urine van der sloot. daddy will be right theer with you in hell, but he won’t be able to protect you from the demons nor the fire. I hope that night was worth it. It has a high price tag
How many Aurbans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Answer none
they can’t afford them anymore since the tourist dollars stopped coming in
vandercrap’s you are the OJ’s of aruba
So let’s see, if someone caps Paulus, and then caps Joran when he comes to Aruba for the funeral service, how many months does the capper do, providing the capper is caught. Does it matter if the capper is local, or imported to do the work? If the capping is not filmed and the piece used is not recovered while still smoking, would the 40 or so Aruban witnesses standing around consitute enough eye witness evidence to convince a judge to act?
We would just want to rest assured that locals and avenging tourists are treated equally under Aruban law. And speaking of LAW, the locals can look at their wallets as the BOYCOTT builds higher and higher. Their brand of LAW in Aruba has a whole new meaning thanks to corrupt officials. (L)ost (A)ruba (W)ages. Sorry your kids will be getting hungry from your lack of work….you can thank Oduber and his crack Keystone Cops.
Thanks, for posting that Deetch, u da man swa!
….
What sealed the daddy helped scenario for me…
Is went Jorannn the Morannnn said…
“Somebody helped me, but it wasn’t my parents or anything like that.
… and that is the truth-ski.
Now give me a hit off that blunt, and fix me another brew-ski.
Joran is a real pinch in the tit, he is.
He is a
real ‘WIT’ , ….about half.
Joran, When the mob/criminals shuts your mouth permanently ,Let me tell you that I will lose not ONE WINK OF SLEEP.
The transcript is courtesy of Klas!
Today my daughter and I saw a silver Jaguar with license plates ARUBA 1. Two men were in the car with black hair and dark skin. I don’t know if we have a consulate in Texas. It was very weird to such an expensive car with special Aruba plates. I hope they aren’t moving to Houston or Dallas.
Boycott Aruba
molly in houston
The Monster of Montanja the Younger of the Ditch did not get mental help because of “anger” issues.
He went because he MURDERED his dog.
No, wait… that is not correct.
His dog COMMITTED SUICIDE by repeatedly jumping against the Monster’s of Montanja the Younger of the Ditch knife.
Is not that how Dalhmer got started? Most serial killers do.
He is Bifrons.
#78 molly in houston
I hope they haven’t sent us Deppak and Satish because they’re mad about the boycott.
Lil Puma (#12) … As always, remember Amy Bradley. She vanished from a cruise ship that was docking at Curacao … one day after the ship was at Aruba, and some members of the crew who had been pursuing her since she boarded with her family wanted to take her to Carlos ‘n’ Charlies.
She declined to go with “those creeps,” as she said to her parents. She and her family toured Aruba in a rented vehicle, but Amy was never alone on the island and never went to, or near, Carlos ‘n’ Charlies.
They returned to the vessel. The next morning, as the ship was docking at Curacao, Amy vanished. She was last seen in the company of one of the crew.
There is strong evidence to believe that she is still alive, in a situation of duress.
For those who are irate at the lies told by Aruba, go back to an earlier thread and re-read the letter that Aruba Tourism Authority sent to me, at a time when I was arranging the Boston protest meeting and ScaredMonkeys was giving it publicity.
ATA said, in the letter, that Aruba treated the Natalee Holloway case “as if it were our own daughter.”
No comment necessary.
I have read that Paulus called the family of Koen Gottenbus and asked about using their boat. Perhaps that explains, at least in part, why Koen was so scared that he was sleeping with his mother (platonically, one supposes, but who knows on Aruba?) for some time after Natalee vanished?
To Richard:
While all of our speculations may hit somewhere upon the truth of what really happened to Natalee…what saddens me is that despite Peter De Vries efforts…will we ever really know? =(
Joran the sociopath has always mixed some truth in with his lies, and the others on the Island who know (K2, specifically and all the corrupt in power) are not going to come forward with diddly-sh**.
Prayers and thoughts remain with the Holloway family— thank you also for all of your efforts upcoming in Boston and the time you have dedicated so far to help persue…..
* ~ * JUSTICE FOR NATALEE * ~ *
LINEUP – K Guilfoyle Art Wood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wPGHfFpk88
#26 Miss Underestimated
“I believe the ALE cover up started on June 10”
I disagree with you, I think the cover up started on day 1
Following is a translation of an email sent by the attorney general
of Aruba to the website of Rene van Nie
On this website van Nie stated several times that the AG was
responsible for screwing up the case since the beginning.
“Dear Mr van Nie
I read again on your website that I, the AG of Aruba, have bungled the NH case in the crucial first ten days.I have told you before that this is not true and I have requested you to defer from telling untruths
I will tell you once more how the case evolved.
NH went missing during the night of 29 to 30 May 2005.I was in Holland until the 6th of June, the first 8 days of the case. I did however have contact with Janssen over the phone during this time, and I have repeatedly told her that she should have the three boys last seen with NH arrested. Her reply was that the boys have to be
“tapped” first otherwise they would not have enough
material to begin the interrogations with.
When I returned to Aruba I again told her to arrest these boys. Her reply then was that they were waiting for video equipment from Holland because they wanted to video the interrogations. Never before was an interrogation video’ d in Aruba. Why they had to do this, could not
be explained to me. I was against it because never before had the police used this technique, and were unfamiliar with it because of that.
But as before I am accused of bungling this case
while I had nothing to do with it. Janssen was acting AG and she made the decisions. During the case I have never contacted van der Straten either in person or via phone.
Janssen has never informed me of the intention to arrest the two guards. I have seen this on television while in Holland. No one has ever explained to me why these men were arrested, because there was never any indication that they had anything to do with the disappearance of NH.
Their phones were also never tapped in order to have material to start their interrogations with.
Teresa Croes”
End of translation.
Smells like buying time to me by Janssen and co
Waiting for equipment from Holland?
Same as saying “I broke my pencil, let’s postpone the interrogation
until the next shipment of pencils come in.
Guajiri
#37 Hoepelman
Who could have accompanied Paulus…..?
In my opinion jan van der straten.It would not be
strange to find a police commissioner in presence of a body.
If NH’s body was dumped in the sea when Joran said it was then there is no other time window in which van der straten could have seen the body and later claim that he has seen the evidence
And the body was in such a state that he concluded that
Joran acted in a psychopathic frenzy, and that is why he offered him a loony bin instead of jail
Guajiri
Joran’s house and that spot on the beach he claimed to have been with Natalee had the same cell tower triangulation) to make it appear he was not home; Then he got online and looked up some stuff.
….
hmmmm
The SLOOT phone they found last week? Maybe they
were marking that location on the beach, so it
could register his celly — That way Sporter
is freed up for multi-tasking, stalking, starting fights with American tourists, and general
all-around lighting up stuff & killing house pets.
> Ya know, the fundamentals.
Joran or Paulus leaves
phone behind. It LOOKS
LIKE they were there… but in
reality, they were NOT? I dunno.
Same for Kalpoo
They had to know of WiFi because of Internet Cafe
They used WiFi to call home on their cell phone. THat made it look like they were at home…when they were not.
A witness saw them, but computer shows they are home?
80. SS: I tried to get a good look at the men in the silver Jaguar. I wish that I knew how to look up license plates. The men didn’t have odd-shaped heads like the Kalpoops. I took a picture of the car and plate with my phone, just in case. It’s a lot of nerve to drive around with an Aruba 1 license plate. You have to pay extra to get a special plate like that. It didn’t say, diplomat or anything. I am assuming that Aruba has a lot more ties in the US than any of us can imagine. There is no telling what is running underneath all this coverup mess. As Beth has always said, “It is huge.”
boycott ape’s hole
molly in houston
#81 RICHARD
I REMEMBER WHEN AMY DISAPPEARED.. I SPECULATE OR IS IT POSSIBLE? THAT THERE WAS A CONNECTION WITH SOME OF THE CREWS EMPLOYEES.. THIS COULD BE A SCAM THEY RUN .. THEY NOTIFY MEN ON THE ISLAND THAT ARE HUMAN TRAFFICIKING!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK? SHE WAS ON THE SHIP THAN DISAPPEARED!! SHE KNEW WHO TOOK HER.. POSSIBLY THEY BEFRIENDED HER.. SHE TRUSTED THEM.. THEIR GUISE.. LIKE BETH SAID.. ITS BIG .. THE ARUBAN CORRUPTION.. AND ANOTHER QUESTION RICHARD.. HOW MUCH AS ARUBA LOST IN TOURISM.. DO YOU SPECULATE THAT IT WILL DROP FURTHER.. REASON BEING.. SOME PEOPLE ARE SYTUPID.. THEY DONT HEED TO WARNING.. THAN WHEN IT HAPPENDS TO THEM THEY CRY.. WHY ME.. THEY SHOULD OF LISTENED.. I SAY TOUR AMERICA… STAY SAFER…AND RICHARD DO YOU REALY THINK THIS IS THE END.. NO FURTHER ARRESTS OR PROGRESS IN THIS CASE? IT JUST TEARS ME UP TO KNOW THAT THEY HAD SUCH POWER TO PULL THIS OFF. PAUULUS WAS SEEN IN THE PIC IN THE CASINO.. I THINK HE IS PART OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.. HE IS SHADY… WHY WOULD ANY ONE THINK DIFFERENT??
KATIE
#78 MOLLY
WHAT DO U MEAN SENT US SATISH AND DEEPAK… SENT WHERE AND HOW.. I MISSED SOMETHING.. PLEASE XPLAIN.. IM CONFOOSED HERE
#78 MOLLY
NEVER MIND.. I READ WHERE YOU MADE THE COMMENT..
WHEN JORAN DIES AND GOES BEFORE THE LORD
BEFORE THE GATES OF HELL OPEN!!
THE LORD WILL ASK JORAN WHY DID YOU KILL NATALEE
JORAN WILL REPLY .. LORD IT WASNT ME … IT WAS MY DAD HE EVEN TOOK HER OUT TO SEE .. LORD I WITNESSED IT.. HONESTLY!! I WAS HOME SLEEPING…
AND THE LORD WILL SAY TO HIM…
DEPART FROM ME YOU WORKER OF INIQUITY TO HELL WITH YOU.. . AS SATAN GRABS JORANS LEG..AND DRAGE HIM IN.. TO THE FIERY FLAMES.. WHERE HE FINALY WILL GET HIS DUE…
I MEANT TO SAY SEA.. HIS DADDY TOOK HER OUT TO SEA
SATAN WILL SAY .. WELCOME HOME MY EVIL ONE.. I KEPT YOUR SEAT WARM…
A NEW GIRL:
THIS SICKENS ME SO MUCH TO KNOW THAT HE GOT AWAY WITH IT… THE SMIRK ON HIS DAD’S FACE… I KNOW WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.. AND I KNOW YOU CAN REAP BAD KARMA.. BUT LIKE OTHERS … I WANT JUSTICE AND I WANT IT NOW… CORRUPTION IS SO DEEP IN THAT COUNTRY… AND …. THE VANDERSLOOTS ARE… DIRTY DIRTY ROTTEN SCONDRELS’ …. ALOT OF BLOOD MONEY FLOATING THRU THAT ISLAND…. AMY AND NATALIES CASE ISNT AN ISOLATED CASE.. STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT… THERE HAS TO BE HUMAN TRAFFICKING WITH PEOPLE LIKE PAUULUS ON THE TOP… HOW CAN THAT EVIL ISLAND PROSPER OFF OF US…MANY AMERICANS WONT LISTEN TO OUR WARNING THEY DONT WANT TO SUPPORT OUR BOYCOTT EFFORTS… THERES A WAKE UP CALL AMERICA… DONT WAIT TILL IT HAPPENDS TO YOU.. IM SURE BETH DIDNT DREAM THIS WOULD HAPPEN TO HER EITHER…LIKE OTHER READERS .. IF ANYONE DOES JORAN PAUULUS OR ANY OF THEIR IMMEDIATE FAMILY IN!! i would loose no sleep .. quite to the contrary i will sleep like a baby… justice was sweet would be my reply
i am new a this….what happened to the blogs from yesterday when i was talking to open a window…..they disappared…..always1
always 1, they are all still here. The story has been moved to the “next page” – see lower left. The bottom line is, if you have something that you think is relevant to this case, then you must contact the appropriate people in this case. I believe that they read the reports on Scared Monkeys, but I do not know if they read every single comment. I do not know the contact information, but someone here will. Simply go to the latest “Natalee” story and put the question out there: “I have info regarding Natalee’s case, how do I contact Beth or Dave, or the attorney?’ There may be info on this very site that I haven’t noticed, because, sadly, I have no information to help them. Your “vision” will not be laughed at, or dismissed. It may be that that area has already been checked.
Keep us posted always 1, we like to know the outcome of any tips!
A LICENSE PLATE ARUBA 1 SOUNDS LIKE A CONFESSION TO ME.
FELLOW MONKEYS
READ ON THIS WEB SITE POSTED ON THE 18TH THAT HANS MOS.. HAS SAID THAT HE WILL ARREST PETER IF HE DOESNT COME FOWARD FOR QUESTIONING IN THE NATALIE HOLLOWAY CASE… IS HE GONNNA GET ARRESTED.. OMG?? HOW BAZAAR DOES THIS STORY GET.. YOU KNOW IF HE WRITES A BOOK.. ARUBA WILL BE MORE COOKED… MORE EXPOSURE TO THE STORY… WILL CAUSE A MAJOR BOYCOTT TO GET EVEN BIGGER… ANY INPUT MONKEYS? A BANANANA TO THE FIRST COMMENT… HEY S.S AND RICHARD WHAT DO YA THINK? AND EVERYONE ELSE
MONKEYS
P.S
IVE BEEN WRITING TO THE PEOPLE THAT DO BUSINESS WITH ARUBA… TO SUPPORT US IN A BOYCOTT.. IVE ALSO INVITED THEM INCLUDING JOSSY MANSURR FROM THE DIARIO NEWSPAPER IN ARUBA.. TO COME TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THINK ETC ETC
Give Peter assylum in the US.
boycott ape’s hole
molly in houston
What a liar!?!?!?!
He say’s he’s scared of the ‘kangaroo court’
as it is obvious that Aruba doesn’t want to take
the chance of him opening up and telling the truth
so the perpetrator, his father, the Arawaks,
along with, every single accomplice
shall go free…
unslathed by the sword of Justice.
ARUBA is embarrassing, as well as
the tortourous things that they do
to innocent women and children.
.
Boycott!
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Spotting and Dumping the Criminal Mind of the Netherlands.
The Netherlands in its entirety is often referred to as Holland, although North and South Holland are actually only two of its twelve provinces. The word Dutch is used to refer to the people, the language, and anything pertaining to the Netherlands. This lexical difference between the noun and the adjective is an attribute of the English language that does not exist in the Dutch language.
“…Consider Dostoevsky’s analysis of the criminal mind in his masterwork `Crime and Punishment’: The criminal assumption is that one has the right and authority to take or confiscate values earned by others so long as someone else has a need for those values.”
The Criminal Mind is a mode of thinking that lays the responsibility for taking care of oneself onto others. A person with a criminal mind constantly projects that others owe him something — be it money, a job, happiness, love, or anything else of value.
You Dutch, Joran Van der Sloot, and his entire family pretend that didn’t do anything wrong:
You didn’t humiliated nobody, you didn’t steal nobody, you didn’t tortured nobody, you didn’t raped nobody, you didn’t killed nobody, you didn’t kidnapped nobody, and if all that wasn’t enough for more than 5 long years, you cynically sadistically, persistently are playing and torturing the family of your victim, and kidnapping in your soil the remains of Natalee. Aruba is your PROTECTORAT…
This is the way a Criminal Mind can think. Even the worse criminal tries to justify his self before committing the crime. The same way you are thinking too.
Joran, the mama boy, was spoiled and transformed in a monster by his family, Dutch Judiciary System and the Government. He thinks that is very smart, and is in full disregard for others. The Dutch Government covered up the Joran’s crime, protected and still is protecting him. They are as guilty as him for the Natalee disappearance in Aruba, and the murder of Stephany Flores in Peru. Netherlands and Dutch people are not able to enforce a SAFE and PREDICTABLE environment in Aruba.
For me, a US citizen born and Raised in Europe, and for all American People, the Joran Van der Sloot will be the (ICON) THAT WILL REPRESENT NEATHERLAND, AND MANY OF THE DUTCH PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE HIM, for a long time.
Pipe down blue bird, do you hear me say that all Americans are warmongers and stupid?
Don’t you think the majority of the Dutch hate Joran as much as you do!
This is about corruption in the Justice Department and as a Dutch citizen it is hard to do something about it, just like in your country.
By the way, I mainly hold the F.B.I. responsible for the death of Stephany Flores.
I worked 2.5 years on this case and visited Aruba twice and Justice will prevail.
Within a short time you will hear the excact location of the body of Natalee Holloway and why during all these years it has been covered up…..
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sm: That’s interesting, because I blame Joran Van der Sloot for the deat of Stephany Flores.
R
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