RSSAruba Remains Corrupt … Court Blocks Joran Van der Sloot Arrest in Natalee Holloway Disappearance
WHAT IS ARUBA AFRAID OF … THE TRUTH!!!
ARUBA … YOUR POLICE, YOUR JUSTICE SYSTEM AND YOUR OFFICIALS ARE CORRUPT
EVEN A CONFESSION AND ADMISSION OF GUILT OF INVOLVEMENT OF A CRIME DOES NOT GET YOU ARRESTED IN ARUBA.
Aruban Courts say … its OK to get away with crimes against American tourists.
The courts ignore the confessions and admissions of Joran van der Sloot and deny his rearrest in the disappearance and death of Natalee Holloway. The fix has been on since the beginning of this case and the corruption continues as the Courts refuse to arrest Joran Van der Sloot … a person who is obvious implicated in the crime. This does not constitute new legal evidence? Maybe these judges would like to explain what does? Some how in the anti-world, suspect statements and admissions are not new evidence. Why, did Joran say he had killed her in the past?
Joran van der Sloot, the major suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance case, will not be rearrested after his recent on-camera confessions. Law court officials on the Dutch Antillean island of Curaçao say that Mr Van der Sloot’s secretly filmed statements that he was with the girl when she died, and that he disposed of her body, do not constitute new legal evidence.
The suspect’s lawyer, Bert de Rooij, claims that his client intentionally lied to the informer who caught the statements on video tape using a hidden camera in his car.
That’s interesting … now Joran Van der Sloot intentionally lied? I thought he was high on pot and did not know what he was saying? How many excuses is the legal system and Aruba willing to make for Joran Van der Sloot?
Here is a question to the Court … HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE EVIDENCE IS THAT JORAN’S COMMENTS ARE INCONSISTENT WITH IF JORAN VAN DER SLOOT HAS DONE NOTHING BUT LIE!!!
The appeals court ruled that Van der Sloot’s statements were inconsistent with other evidence and insufficient to hold him
This is all the more reason to rearrest Joran Van der Sloot and pin him down on the answers. What are you afraid of? The fact of the matter is that Joran Van der Sloot made statements and the Court is simply ignoring them. Why do you think Joran made the comment … “if they ever find her body, I will be in trouble.”
An appeals court has denied a request by Aruban prosecutors to arrest a Dutch college student in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, his lawyer said in an interview Thursday.
The prosecutors had appealed a decision earlier this month by an Aruban judge that Joran Van der Sloot could not be arrested based on statements he made in a secretly recorded video. The tape showed Van der Sloot saying he was with the Alabama teenager when she died in the Dutch Caribbean island and that he had a friend dump her body at sea.
The appeals court ruled that Van der Sloot’s statements were inconsistent with other evidence and insufficient to hold him, the Dutch student’s lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, told Fox News. He said the investigation remains, he added.
“The statements are in fact disprovable, in large part, by the evidence, the court opined,” Tacopina said.
Tacopina and Aruban officials could not immediately be reached for further comment. (Fox News-Memphis)
UPDATE I: Reaction from Peter R. DeVries
UPDATE II: Reaction from others
Posted February 15, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Bizarre, Corruption, Crime, Judicial, Missing Persons, Murder, Natalee Holloway, WTF | 361 comments |
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Does anyone wonder why Aruba is the laughing stock of the world? Just wait until this latest “news” hits all the news wires, media outlets, and TV shows worldwide.
If there was ever a shred of doubt about the corruption on that sand bar, you have just witnessed it. The only counter at this point is universal BOYCOTT. Anyone with financial interests (timeshares, hotel stock, etc.)….sell it quick.
BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT – BOYCOTT
you see i told you kids, its so simple , confession of a drugged person is nothing.
de vries received 5 million $ for this stupidness. CRIMINAL PATRICK received only 35.000 dollars for all this stupid work.
dutchman de vries the moneywolf is very happy.
FOCUS NOW ON NAT FAM, BETH AND STEPFATHER.
FBI ITS A WAKE UP CALL…..
LETS WORK ON SOLID PROVES,
FIRST THINGS FIRST, PROVE THAT NAT. IS REALLY
DEAD……
_________
SM: Actually, they are going to focus on you. Wait for the ALE to knock on your door. I wonder what you would do if you were accused of the crime, knowing that JVDS did it.
Go to friggin’ hell, Van der sloot family.
ARUBA, if u r down with that family of rapists and murderers, YOU DESERVE TO GO DOWN WITH Paulus
and his ship.
…or as Anita likes to so fondly call him,
Captain LIMP PICKLE!!!
>j4n
http://tinyurl.com/3bm5zX
I guess we know see why no one in Aruba ever came forward.
They know the police and judges are corrupt and feared for their own lives and reputations.
One Corrupt Island.
However, make no mistake … JVDS will be brought to trial. This is far from over.
The WORLD knows he is guilty even if a bunch of corrupt judges wish to make a mockery of justice. In the end, Aruba suffers.
I am not surprised that this is the ouytcome. There has been a coverup since day one to protect Joran. Obviously, unless there is an actual videotape of Joran and his pimps murdering Natalee, there will never be an arrest on that island.
I hope that whole island sinks into the ocean, never to be seen or heard from again!!!!
Joe T sure does stutter a lot…what a slime bucket…I wonder how many criminals are free in NY because of him…
Aruba continues on, the merry-go-round nightmare
Jossy said along time ago that the people of Aruba are afraid of their gov’t…that’s a hell of a way to live…
aruba just helped the boycott go forward like they have never seen before.
That’s just great! Now the OM will go after the bigger fish………………….right?
Did I call it or what?!
NO WAY is Joran EVER, EVER, EVER going to do time for the CRIMES he committed against Natalee Holloway – even if someone came forward with a videotape of the incident!
ARUBA IS C-O-R-R-U-P-T.
Look, Joran might as well tell Equusearch where (approx) Holloway’s body was discarded.
Joran will NEVER see a day in prison, so what has he got to lose? Aruba sealed Joran’s fate from the beginning… They are NOT going to prosecute, PERIOD.
At least Natalee’s family would have the peace of bringing her home for a proper funeral.
Fu#k aruba and all it’s contents !!! Fu#k bald taco and his worthless life !!! arub sucks worse than anything that ever SUCKED before !!!
Bald Taco calling Patrick a criminal hey bald taco who is the criminal !!!
GOD I HATE arua SO FU#KKING MUCH I CAN’T STAND IT !!! I HOPE ALL THIS BAD TURNS AROUND AND EFFECTS ALL OF aruba
I share your horror Monkeys, but I’m not one bit surprised. Joran holds the highest trump card … take me down and I will take down all those that covered-up for me down too.
This does not change that Joran’s life is dirt. Daddy Sloot better quickly enroll Joran in criminal school because that’s all that’s left for Joran. No one in the Netherlands will hire him. He’s OJ Simpson without the money or fame. And notice, OJ is a piranha in the US. Even with all his money he can’t go anywhere without someone pointing out how disgusting he is. His former friends even kick him out or restaurants.
Everyone now knows what we have known for 2.5 years. Joran is guilty. Joran is disgusting. Joran’s parents are disgusting and enablers. They don’t love him, they love what they wanted him to be that he wasn’t.
This will not be the last of Joran. OJ can’t keep out of trouble; Joran won’t either.
So it is typical for rapists to want power and likewise people who try and even succeed to be judges are people who want power and that would include appaulus and his buddy smid and hte other judges on the island and typicaly these pwoer hungry men only feel dominant over women during an act of aggression therefore the other dutch judges from curacao are likely the ones who Jurine procured natalee for, knocked out by drugs, put on the boat headed for curacao and the judge buddies of paulus and they cannot convict because of all hte things he knows and can reveal that may be like or worse than what the dutch did to natalee. such a pathetic race, the dutch. here’s hopint the iranians blow them all up.
We saw this coming when the first Judge denied arrest. No surprise, really. We know the truth, what Joran said all long and what he confessed on the tape.
Aruba’s tourism is dead. Every sane person who reads or hears of this latest development will also boycott. But if we all look at the large picture here. The corruption is so vast, that the criminals running the judicial system and the legal system will sacrifice the entire island and her innocents citizens of safety and a livelihood to protect it’s own vile interests.
Actually, I am wondering about the safety of all of the citizens, let’s face it, if they can do this to railroad a fair trial for a murdered American Tourist, what will they do or already have done for a citizen (all the suicides on the island) where there is little or no press?
The word is out. If you are a victim of any crime including murder in which the perp confesses, you are, excuse the term, dead in the water.
The world has to know. Aruba is no place for anyone not even her own innocent citizens.
Where is our own government? Where are the travel advisories?
Once again Aruba has slapped Natalee, Beth & Dave in the face but this time the whole world
is in tune to this case and are sitting in the bleachers watching Auba’s show of “corruption”.
We have added more people on our “justice” team by Peter’s “confession tape”. It is the whole world now on our team Aruba you ignorant fools.
On top of that I am sure Peter has some “more” great footage that has not been seen by public yet and probably will be coming out with a second tape that will make you idiots look like spawns of satan since you refuse to bring forth justice for Natalee…
Guess what she will have justice in the end because you are not God Aruba, Joran, Paulus, 2K’s, Koen and you other demons.
Yo, AHATA
when you review the “numbers” for the first 60 days of 2008 in a few weeks, and the question is asked: ” What the h*ll happened here? “, just remember the standard answer: ” Ah,vell, thos Americanns, dey are just confused, wee fourcast the spring will be just wunderfull.”
Yes indeed, you just be sure to send Oduber a nice clean copy of your report…..no creases.
This cover up began on day one and was ordered from the top. I haven’t said it before but I totally support a boycott of this island. Now, it is such a source of embarrassment that people know I lived a number of years on this island.
I still have hope and faith that justice will prevail (how and when only God knows.)
First ITS CURACAO NOT ARUBA…The court of appeals is in CURACAO NETH ANT. 2 judges from curacao and 1 from Aruba. Secondly I can see american girls getting drunk and showing certain parts of the body to black+dutch guys at the Paddock Cafe..so seems like Nat.H lesson was never learned !!! Oh and dont forget OJ Simpson+Paris Hilton !!! They got around courts too…
None of us should be SURPRISED at the bizarre decision reached by the court not to rearrest Urine van der Slut!! It’s nothing more than the “good (or should I say, the BAD) old boy system”. What does Paulass van der Slut have on these corrupt, immoral “so-called” judges? Sadly enough I don’t expect these dirty bastards to ever do the RIGHT thing by Natalee and her family
These judges are just as guilty in what became of Natalee as the van der Sluts are!! OFF WITH THEIR FREAKING HEADS I SAY!!!
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
As I told you this morning, and as I have been telling you before, by our Dutch law this will not hold in court. The “confession”, it not valid as legal evidence in court. And what did he say ? the girl died from natural reasons (Rum 151).
That does not mean that the judge, or the prosecutor is corrupt, any laywer will tell you, the case does not hold in court. Simply due to lack of valid evidence.
Tonight, Joran goes partying with friends, in a Disco in Arhem, where he always goes, as if nothing has happened.
Well let us just hope and that someone will take the opportunity to “Lock and Load on at least two of the VD’S and do what all the Aruba and the Dutch courts could NOT bring themselves to do.
Wrong ? maybe, but the contempt for this family is almost consuming. These men MUST be stopped !
When a case such as this has been talked about and investigated as it has been and the legal system is SO corrupt then it is time for other actions to be put in place.
Don’t be afraid Mommies ”Lil Delicious Sporter ” you’ll probably never feel the pain nor feel the terror as you have inflicted on a wonderful young American woman that would have had such a positive impact on her fellow man .
Not the wasted life that you will certainly lead until it comes to a crashing end , which In my own opinion cannot come quickly enough .
young woman :> What was that ? a click ? a footstep ? but we are supposed to be out here alone aren’t we Joran ? Joran, Joran why are you running away ? Oh well, maybe he had to run to use the bathroom
On what evidence were the security guards arrested?
Held on suspicion of homicide. The no body, no case applied to them also.
Because they had a body, but the frame fell apart.
Until van der straaten and Paulus are arrested, the corruption continues…
Aruba is a 3rd world nation and will never prosecute because everyone there in power is involved. They can call it Aruban Law or Dutch Law but the truth is there is NO LAW in Aruba. We can keep the pressure on them anyway possible, keep chipping away and someday after they lose most of their US tourism, they may fess up but I doubt it. These people are very stupid, could tell that from day one. Maybe they inbred too much. I can tell you Joran will talk again, he cannot help it. Maybe he has some pics to share next time. If photos were found, they would not be of use because the camera was not on the official list of evidence cameras approved by the ALE. All monkeys, just keep doing what we have been doing the last couple of years. Turn the blade slowly,,,gets the best results.
As has been stated by others from Aruba before, this corruption goes way above Joran. the higher ups are involved in these crimes. This is why Joran will not be tried for this crime. THE CRIMES OF THE ELDERS WILL BE REVEALED! BOYCOTT ALSO THE NETHERLANDS. CAN THE US GOVT DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS IF IT IS KNOWN THAT THE GOVT AND OFFICIALS IN A COUNTRY ARE CORRUPT AND A US CITIZEN HAS BEEN MURDERED THERE WITHOUT JUSTICE??? I WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT I CAN TO ASSURE THAT A US CITIZEN NEVER SETS FOOT IN THESE COUNTRIES AGAIN! ANOTHER WOMAN HAS JUST GONE MISSING FROM CURACOS AREA. DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT>>>
i wonder how much money it took the sloots & that clown lawyer tacopeter to pay this one off?
the jack squirt, charlie, jasper show is now on folks. today it’s how to murder, lie, and tell another lie, then do drugs, and claim that’s why you lied. seems to be the legal system. jack squirt, there’s an idiot born every minute and these girls you say supposedly show body parts are idiots. however i don’t think Natalee was one of these.
regardless fo what you dumbasses think , these girls are not asking to be murdered. maybe your sister or mom will be next. oh, i forgot you guys sleep with your moms and may be your brother’s son. peeing your pants yet boys ?
I hate to say it…but told you so. Been saying nothing will ever happen since the day Natalee disappeared. I knew Joran and Paulus were guilty from the day they announced Natalee missing on the news. You can see the evil in their eyes.
The Aruban government intends to do NOTHING to anyone regarding the crimes against Natalee. They have shown this from the very beginning. It doesn’t matter what evidence or video surveillance surfaces…even if a video shows Joran killing Natalee and Paulus paying someone and assisting someone getting rid of her Natalee’s body. It doesn’t matter what they have. NOTHING will ever happen.
Our only hope is that someone takes justice on Joran and Paulus outside the law. Not to mention the fact that Joran, Paulus and all those involved in Natalee’s death and the coverup will have to meet their maker some day. They will burn in hell for eternity.
Boycott Aruba forever!
Tonight, Joran goes partying with friends, in a Disco in Arhem, where he always goes, as if nothing has happened.
….
Hey, I wonder if he’ll get stabbed in the neck
by those jealous gay ones? Those seem to be the
only booty Frankenstein gets these days, huh?
jasper, you seem to know baby sloot’s every move. sure you boys aren’t lovers ? or maybe he’s your daddy.
Jerry from Ohio….I love the lock and load idea! It needs to be very painful and a slow process though. Quick would not be good enough.
Nobody here believed his “confession” either.
“The fact of the matter is that Joran Van der Sloot made statements and the Court is simply ignoring them.”
That is exactly what happened here. If someone said they actually believed what he said, they got blasted or called a troll because they didn’t agree with the unfounded theories of rape/ghb/paulus/happened at vds house/etc, etc.
Screaming “Corrupt” when all the posters here didn’t believe him either seems a little silly, no?
People, for crying out loud, who are you to state that the Aruban prosecution and/or the Curacao court of appeal and/or the Dutch government is corrupt! You don’t even know the Aruban legal system.
I’m certain that mistakes were made in the beginning of the investigation and that perhaps it took longer than it should have had to arrest Joran because of the profession of his father. I’m sure that’s nothing new also in the States.
It is my opinion that the mistakes made were mostly due to the fact that the police didn’t have any experience in this sort of crimes.
Anyway, since Joran revoked his “confession” (which he made stoned) and there is no direct evidence to substantiate this confession, it will be impossible to convict him of anything. Should the prosecution decide to try him anyway and he is acquitted, is is no longer possible to prosecute him afterwards even if the body of Natalee is found.
So, there is no cover-up. This is just the law!
The evidence may still turn up. If Joran was responsible for Natalee’s death, life wonn’t let him off the hook. He’ll end up like O.J. Simpson. Joran will not be able to live a normal life, people will always associate him with the crime. Life pays us back for what we do.
And please;
lying about the events of the evening cannot be deemed direct evidence that will hold in court.
There are some goods things that come from these tapes, Joran is labeled liar and killer forever. And he will NEVER come to the USA for school or play. He is stupid, but not that stupid. He and his friends may say they don’t want to come here, but it’s just another lie. Enjoy Aruba Joran, not many places will have you and some could be dangerous for you,,,probably Aruba is the most dangerous. No law there.
@ jgirl,
Do you think that’s a good thing? That people take matters into their own hand? That even if you are not convicted of anything, you wil be treated like you did?
What about ‘innocent until proven guilty’? Isn’t that the backbone of a civilised legal system?
Amsterdam,
Mistakes were made? How is arresting 2 innocent security guards a mistake? The Chief of Police said it’s “murder” and that he “has seen the evidence.”
The Prosecutor said she had “more than circumstantial evidence.”
Those are not mistakes, that is a coverup. The police knew right away Natalee was dead, but when the guards were proven innocent, it was a “disappearance.”
Why would van der straaten promise Joran a mental institution?
The guards were arrested for one reason, the “story” of Joran/Paulus van der sloot. The “dropped her at the hotel” story.
A lie they had prepared when Beth arrived on the island. They already had the lie ready, at the same time the police were asking about epilepsy.
The crime was solved and then unsolved to benefit the van der sloots.
# 31 amerstam. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THIS WASNT MISTAKES MADE BY THE ARUBAN OFFICIALS IN THIS INVESTIGATION. THIS IS A COVER=UP BY THE ARUBAN GOVERNMENT IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. AS STATED BY THOSE IN ARUBA, THIS CRIMES GOES WAY ABOVE JORAN. THIS IS WHY NO JUSTICE HERE. BUT THERE WILL BE JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND HER FAMILY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. ALSO, MAYBE HOLLAND AND THE NETHERLANDS NEED TO BE BOYCOTTED. AMERICANS ARE ONLY WANTED THERE FOR THEIR MONEY. IT WILL STOP. UNLESS CORRUPT OFFICIALS AND JUDGES ARE PROSECUTED AND DISBARRED AND THE TRUE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS CASE REVEALED(AS STATED IN ORIGINAL POLICE REPORTS)AND THOSE RESPONSIBLE PUNISHED, AMERICANS WILL NOT TRAVEL TO THESE COUNTRIES. THERE WILL BE JUSTICE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER! JORAN NEEDS TO BE DUMPED IN OCEAN JUST LIKE NATALEE. ALSO OTHERS WHO WILL NOT TALK
Joran van der Sloot will never be free, never.
http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/2008/02/weve-only-just-begun.html
Do these people not realize WHO they are dealing with? I actually feel sorry for the citizens of Aruba because this is out of their hands now.
@Amsterdam
This whole show is just continuation of organized american blackmail of the investigation from day one.
They are feeling the heat so they go live with a nice video that again keeps everybody focussed on the person that will never lead to the truth because he just don’t know.
There’s a lot at stake. This is not about Natalee anymore, this is about US individuals, large newscorporations, FBI etc. protecting their asses cause they know damn well that they obstructed justice from day one. Joran is the ultimate protection from the truth coming out, he don’t know a thing but they got him checkmate on his lies.
Just like in policecar tape allready was clear he knew nothing and the brothers stated that with him there was nothing to find. This same stratagy has been used on all three boys from day one. Focussing on them was surest way to burry the truth.
the dutch laugh at us, at our concern for Natalee and Beth. The dutch are evil to the core and what happened to Jurine with Natalee is just typical of growing up Dutch. It is a right of passage for a dutch boy to hunt girls with his rapist father and his judge friends. The arrest of the two black guys on jurine’s word and the and now no arrest on his own admission means that this boys demise would compromise more than just his acccomplice father. The shear money involved in defending the family tells us that more asses are being covered than just jurine and paulus. who was close to them? Posner, smid, was paulus to be just another judge in the pocket of the mob, like others before. is the holiday inn a hunting grounds for pervs?
can all of this go on w/o the knowledge of the HI management? I wonder about the cameras in the rooms. its not America, there are probably no rules about hidden cameras in the hotel rooms there. taco should be pushed in front of a bus with his pi too.
Hey Amsterdamn and YOYOASS,
The only solace I have is to know that when someone kills the rotten piece of shit and his perverted dad that all they have to do is lie and everything will be alright. It will only be a matter of time now.
So now we have the official news, which slipped out on what was St. Valentine’s Day in America.
Just wondering if there were some sick kind of symbolism in that … as if somehow, someone involved with this case was determined to torment the world.
Deetch (#22) is absolutely right … the unsupported word of the chief suspect in this case was enough to “justify” the arrest of two guards never seen with or associated with Natalee.
If we remember the photo, Jan van der Straaten stood by in person, no doubt posing for the cameras as Aruba “cracked the case.”
As I said before, were it not for Beth and Dave, those two guards would have been kept in prison (the “evidence” on THEM would have been enough) and the case would have been “closed.”
I think we can all conclude now that the only hope lies with the Persistence.
What can we do? We can vent our rage, we can post on blogs … or we can take action.
Such as? Well, ONE idea is to take part in the demonstrations planned in coming months against the blandishments of Aruba Tourism Authority.
There’s one at Boston and one in New York very soon. Write to JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com for more information.
Will this reverse the verdict? No.
Will this take down Joran? No.
But it WILL help spread the message … it WILL help stick it to Aruba … it WILL perhaps help persuade people not to go to Aruba.
If enough of us speak up, it might even help persuade the people in Congress who “represent” us that the safety of Americans abroad is a legitimate concern … as much as the alleged misdeeds of baseball players.
Folks, now really is the time to “fish or cut bait.” We can post on this blog for all eternity … but we can also do something.
Let’s get cracking. PLEASE!
I wouldn’t be surprised if the police have or have had her body from day one. They picked her up at the lighthouse area and either buried her in a grave or removed her from the island. I bet Joran doesn’t really know where she is because it was all “handled for him so he could go to school the next day”. If he says anything or Paulus, then they will bring everyone down. To keep the evidence from being evidence, he continually lies. I am sure he was advised to lie by the legal system in Aruba. I think he has anger problems, but am not too sure about the personality disorder. I think Van der Stratten told Joran to behave like this from day one to aid in the cover-up. I think all of his lies are planted and preconceived by Dutch officials before any interview. Now they can blame Joran’s problems on a personality disorder that they created. Joran is a cocky guy caught up in the cover-up and throwing everyone off. This is called crazy-making, but I don’t think Joran was smart enough in the beginning to start the crazy-making on his own. He would have a long history of lying before age 17.
At this moment, it would appear that the Persistence holds the best chance to produce the evidence needed to prosecute and convict Joran. Short of that, future donations will most likely be channeled into the Bounty fund.
With all the death threats to Joran, Paulas & Joe Taco, they will be lookin over their shoulders for a long time, esp. Joran… He won’t ever trust anyone again – walking a living hell through life is just what he deserves. He gets a better hell by not going to jail after all his gay dad would just give him a cell phone and the police would just let him “live” there ; there would be no real justice on such a corrupt island. I say BOYCOTT BOYCOTT forever. If Aruba cannot bring justice, then why should be put money into tourism for them. I wouldn’t be surprised is Joran does commit suicide — after all, he knows what it is like to see someone die.
It should now be clear to one and all that the governement of The Netherlands has created a legal system with the intent of protecting criminals!!!
Why: Because, their main source of wealth is drug running, sex slave trade and laundering dirty money. This is an International Business worth Billions annually to their country, very big business.
They would be opening a can of worms much to big to handle if this were to go to trial to many secrets would be revealed about the inner working for their dirty little business.
It should now be clear to everyone how dangerous it is to travel to any of these countries because there is no justice or legal system to protect the victims…none you are on your own!!!
I pray that Beth can get some type of peace in knowing what happened to her daughter even though there will be no justice for the family. Sometimes just knowing can quiet the demons.
Joran and Paulus are Ted Bundy(s) in the making, they now know they are above the law and can continue their “Drug the Tourist and Rape Sport”, we can only pray that the publicity from this crime limits the list and body count of future victims.
Traveling to any of these countries involved in drug trade should be “At your Own Risk if at all”
The final outcome for the Van der Sloot family will be the day when they each and everyone meets their maker and until that day they will live with this every moment… every second…that they breath…we will NOT FORGET NATALEE!!!!
WHAT A FREAKIN JOKE…WE ARE GOING TO SHUT THIS HELLHOLE DOWN…Im with you CARPE, maybe someone will stab him in the neck while he is out messing with his gay boyfriends…he is SATANS SPAWN and his whole family are SICK ppl. I say to bad for this freakin VOLCANIC ASHE of a place. For get HOLLAND also. Unless someone takes matters into their own hands,,,BOYCOTT THEM UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER.
#31 A’dam
I think you are looking at it from a holland
perspective, I do not think you know the aruban
society and its top elite layer of dutch citizens
Even the aruban AG thinks the case has been
mishandled from the beginning, although I think
it has been done so on purpose. The following
is an email (translation) from the AG to the website of rene van nie
Dear Mr van Nie
I read again on your website that I, the AG of Aruba,have bungled the NH case in the crucial first ten days.
I have told you before that this is not true and I have requested you to defer from telling untruths
I will tell you once more how the case evolved.
NH went missing during the night of 29 to 30 May 2005
I was in Holland until the 6th of June, the first 8 days of the case. I did however have contact with Janssen DA-hoofd officier van justitie)over the phone during this time, and I have repeatedly told her that she should have the three boys last seen with NH arrested. Her reply was the boys have to be
“tapped” first otherwise they would not have enough
material to begin the interrogations with.
When I returned to Aruba I again told her to arrest
these boys. Her reply then was that they were waiting
for video equipment from Holland because they wanted
to video the interrogations. Never before was an interrogation
video’ d in Aruba. Why they had to do this, could not
be explained to me. I was against it because never before
had the police used this technique, and were unfamiliar
with it because of that. But as before I am accused of bungling this case
while I had nothing to do with it. Janssen was acting AG
and she made the decisions During the case I have never
contacted van der Straten either in person or via phone.
Janssen has never informed me of the intention to arrest
the two guards. I have seen this on television while in
Holland. No one has ever explained to me why these men
were arrested, because there was never any indication
that they had anything to do with the disappearance of NH.
Their phones were also never tapped in order to have
material to start their interrogations with.
Teresa Croes
Amsterdam, I didn’t say bad or good. I guess I can only speak for myself, but my karma is such, that whatever bad I have done, comes back on me.
I didn’t say I wished anything on Juron, or if he is guilty or not. I also realize, that they are following their legal process, that’s what governments have to do.
We heard recently that one of the Aruban officials (it doesn’t much matter which one) huffed and puffed that Joran was “persona non grata” on Aruba.
This was not legally enforceable anyways …
But now, with the decision of the judges, let’s see how long this lasts.
Aruban people, remember: Beth was the one who saved the butts of two ordinary Arubans from being tagged with this crime. The van der Scums have said they couldn’t care less about a boycott on Aruba.
You’d better make your decision soon. Want to keep quiet, cower in your homes, and let the injustice on your island continue to flourish?
Fine. Then don’t expect food shipments from us, much less the bounty of our tourist dollars.
A song dear to Americans contains these lines:
“He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored,
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword,
His truth is marching on.”
Monkeys, let’s do our bit to ensure that this takes place, and the sooner the better.
Promote the boycott of Aruba.
well….. remember the time joran was was first released, the natural bridge collasped…..hmmmmm KARMA maybe?????
Hi Joran;
I’m sorry I could not write sooner there was so much media attention about us.
It looks like you got off again didn’t you.
I still don’t know why you and the others did this to me? I never did anything to you that I deserved what happened. I was only here celebrating my graduation with my friends.
You were to take us back to our hotel and we never got there.
There is a lot I don’t remember after we got into that taxi. I do remember saying, screaming, begging you to stop what you and your friends were doing to me. But they wouldn’t. Yes you took me to the beach, Arishi Beach. That’s where your friends were waiting. Then because you said I wanted to see Sharks you threw me in the Ocean. I was still alive when you did that to me. I can hear you tell Satish to make sure I am still alive because sharks do not go after dead meat. You made sure I was bleeding so that I would attract them. You couldn’t use your cell phone for help because you left it in the car and I used it then I hid it.
Why did Gerald Dompig say I used drugs and caused my own death, when you know Satish put them in my drink. Why does Jacobs call me a whore when he knows that is not the truth? How many officials does your father have in his pocket?
What ever happened to those other two girls you killed?
Just think I would be a senior in college next year learning to be a doctor to help people. Do you realize how many children’s lives are on your hands because I won’t be there to help them?
Please tell them the truth; it is so cold and lonely here. I miss my mother and brother Matt and especially Macy. She misses me too. Please tell them where I am. I’m a stranger here and I don’t know where I am. I only want to go home. It’s so cold and lonely here I want to see my friends again.
You know that belt that Jacobs threw away is what you used on me; where is it now?
You did not get rid of all the duct tape that you tied me up with; that washed up on shore. My shoulder blade washed on shore and was found by that tourist. Part of my top was found by the park service ranger. The mattress you got rid of floated down to Grapefield Beach. You and your friends did this to me because I would not put out for you and your friends; so you just took away my dignity. My back still has the bruises from your shoes. Why does your girl friend wear my earrings?
I have to go now I hear a motor and I have to be ready if they find me.
46. Bob, I also think what if the Persistence finds Natalee, then what, as far as criminal prosecution?
BTW, if you are in a giving mood, the Persitence needs help.
Aruba is harbouring the murderer of Natalee Ann Holloway.
Sorry guys but even if Persistence finds Natalee, they won’t do anything to Joran and Paulus…or any one else involved in her murder / coverup. It doesn’t matter what they find, they will do NOTHING. The Aruban government doesn’t care. Like someone said, they are laughing at us. They don’t care. If Persisence finds Natalee, the Aruban government will insult Natalee’s family more by saying Natalee put her self in the crab cage and took herself out to sea.
This about sums it up…..
http://www.advantageservice.net/images/dutch_masters_perfecto.jpg
yoyo
Yep Joran lied because IMHO Patrick works for the AHATA and that is their new approach to damage control. Just my opinion. No offense Patrick?
the parents of joran have once again let their own children down.. sad
joran is guilty
paulus is guilty
anita knows it and does nothing about it, i would not let that woman teach a rock
she needs help, denial is bad
Justice will be when someone gets fed up with the Sloots destroying Aruba’s “One happy island” reputation or perhaps I should say exposing the corruption in Aruba and takes them out.
Also, I said earlier, if Persistence finds Natalee, the Aruban government will do nothing to Joran or Paulus….I do believe that is true.
However, if Persistence does find Natalee, at least her family can give her a proper burial. And, like Natalee’s mom said, at least Natalee is no longer hurting or scared.
JOE TACO=WAP=THE SOUNDOF SHIT WHEN IT HITS THE WALL.
Curious about other cases in aruba. Does anyone get a trial and time in jail for anything.
If serving time would they go back to Holland ?
I think public opinion may be the worst punishment. For some reason image seems to matter to the Sloots. If they get enough public humiliation they will crumble under it.
Boycotting Aruba is good ,just sad it will hurt the innocent people there and the corrupt
make their money off drugs anyway.
Wish someone would investigate the corruption
of the officials .
TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE!
Folks, listen to what Richard’s saying.
Please contact Vicki and then show up and get the word out.
This really upsets me to no end! After three long years he finally admits the killing of Natalee and yet he still remains a free man. People really need to come together and fight this battle until justice is received. I assume if the search team “by the grace of god” finds her body in the sea and determines in fact that she was murdered, I see him still getting away with this crime. I’m very disapointed in Aruba they even show how much they respect and care for the Aruba Citizens, by continuing to let this crime drag on as if it’s okay to drug a women and plan to get a boat to throw her into the ocean. They care only for this one Judge and his son? Can we not offer them enough money to be on Natalee’s side? It only makes sense that there justice department is cover this whole crime up (as they have been from day one). In a few months or sooner they will close this case once again and the sorry boy Joran will continue smoking pot with a grin on his face saying to himself I cant wait until I get my big fat paycheck from all this. Aruba could not get any lower in my book, what other crimes have they covered? I forsure – will NEVER go to that island. I’m sure those 3 judges are friends with Joran’s father ~ But ya no it does not surprise me much at all.
Very Disapointed – April.
How can the arrest of the security guards be deemed a simple
“mistake” when ALE knew that Joran had LIED about the Holiday Inn drop off?!
It can’t be.
Once again Libby, I think you are right that Aruba wouldn’t do anything even if Natalee’s body was found with a video tape attached to it showing Joran killing her. BUT
Think how wonderful it would be for Natalee’s parents, family and friends simply to know she was no longer near hell’s island.
Joran’s bed is made. No one need take any action and if the threats continue, I will stop posting here. It’s simply not right to drop down to Joran’s level.
Justice is Mine saith the Lord.
What civil measures can the Holloways try.
That might keep the Sluts from benefiting
by writing books ect.
Anyone see the old movie called the Star Chamber.
This would be a perfect case for them!!
Libby #29
Many many more think like us Libby but some find it too politically incorrect to write it down on a forum like SM here has provided .
Thank goodness some of us realize that “True Justice for Natalee” is going to have to come from outside conventional Law resources when they prove corrupt as they have been proven to be in Aruba .
Again we think alike and I’m really not ashamed for thinking that way because the boys and men of aruba that did this to a vibrant young American woman sure didn’t care about her welfare .
Jerry from Ohio and these are just my own opinions .
Hey Dave,
That’s WOP, he is a disgrace to all of us wops!
Paulus would “do anything to protect his son.”
His son is in hiding, a worldwide scum. I guess he has a weird sense of protection.
Yeah we saw this coming but thats alright Aruba for YOU WILL PAY AND PAY DEARLY as your economy shrinks more everyday from which it will NEVER recover.
Thank you Jerry. I’m not a violent person. But I do believe in justice. And, legal justice has not been served and it never will be. I mean, look what those monsters did to Natalee. Not only when she was alive but after she died! And, the Aruban officals have no problem with what they did! They have a fricking video of Joran admitting he killed her and that she was tossed in the ocean. He called her names and talked about how he was going to make money on the whole thing and how lucky he was that no one found her. And, to make matters worse, he immitates her having her seizure. It was sick.
I’m not ashamed to say what I feel either. I want them to suffer far beyond what Natalee did…prior to them being taken out.
My guess is that the Auruban Authorities already had discovered the body and that is the reason this case will never be truly solved. The world knows JVS is responsible and he had help. The help goes all the way to the top, including the police, investigators and judges. If one falls, they all fall and we know that will not happen…especially if people feel their life is in danger.
TIPS
DEETCH: sorry dude, no disrespect intended. that loudmouth brings out the worst in me. when he talks all i can see is two butt cheeks flapping.
my wife goes on a cruis every year and for the first time she reveived a flyer from the ship telling everyone if something happens on any of these tourist islands(DO NOT CALL THE LOCAL POLICE) they do not care if you live or die on their island. they just want your money. the only way to stop this is to starve them with a boycott. all we need is for our Government to issue a travel warning to Aruba and it’s over with for good. again, sorry for the name nothing intended.
Al Pacino said it best:
No, YOU’RE out of order!!
Also Aruba you are the laughing stock of the world. On Greta last night some on the panel of lawyers said that you guys must be taking ‘dumb pills’ or their is ‘dumb’ in the water.
If you dont mind.. thats fine…but I would help STOP this crap in my government.
I dont see how any american who knows about this case could go to Aruba or Netherlands.We know Joran and others are involved in Natalees Murder,and after jorans confession i would not let the trolls say bad things about Natalee or the FAMILY any more here at Scared monkeys.
66. Katablog. I agree. The threats also do two more things: (1) They help make Joran look like a victim, which may result in his getting monetary damages, which Joe T has been working on since the day he was hired. (2) Keeps a police detail on Joran.
I say be smart monkeys and go after the judges (see my prior post #71) and the team of Van der Straaten/Jacobs.
ABC is running responses from experts which show directly that what Joran describes is death due to GHB (mixed in with the 151) which cannot be proven due to the disposal of her body. The truth in Joran’s confession is that she died of the drug(s) which he gave her in order to commit rape. This is Murder 1. The people in the Netherlands are saying that he is NOT one of theirs but is an Aruban and Aruba is responsible due to the sub human content of their society. The Van der Sloot/Van der Straasen cover up conspiracy involves people with knowledge of how to stop the Dutch legal system from being able to ever bring charges. Justice cannot be found in the Dutch Criminal Justice System due to the corruption of Aruba. The only way justice will come is in the societal destruction of all involved in this crime and cover up. Indeed Tis Mac Beth. Only the rising of the people against the dirty crew holds hope…JS
Maybe we thought there was an itsy-bitsy tiny piece of hope that 3 judges can make a better decision than one…guess not…
I don’t like Joe T referring to Patrick as a clown, manipulative criminal,(sue him Patrick) he’s now an honorable business man, he paid his dues,and wanted to help and he did…I certainly see where Joe T is anything but close to being an honorable attorney…he knows Joran is guilty. Just pissed off because Patrick was the only one that ever got any kind of a confession from Joran…Joran wasn’t stoned he was aware that he could not confess all to anyone…so forget the he was drugged…if you stop the video at a certain place it looks like Joran is smoking a cigarette…I bet Peter isn’t done with this…
How do the Narc’s catch the drug dealers…they become part of what is going on…undercover, disguises, all sorts of things…not unusual at all…
18 Jack Spider. What a woman chooses to do and what happens to a woman when she’s drugged or forced to do are different. Don’t the mothers on Aruba teach their sons that? Oh, and Jack? Unless a woman in trying to kill you, killing her is murder. Is the law in Aruba different on that point? Does it say that if a woman dances or does jello shots you can kill her? Please clarify or shut up.
“The majiuana made me say it.”
Uh-huh.
Doesn’t seem like these Aruban clown judges get it.
When Joran call a friend to come and dump the body. Would that not be considerd being an accomplice in murder.
I just saw a psychologist interviewed on TV about the person who went on the shooting rampage at Northern Illinois University yesterday. He stated that often parents are in denial about the warning signs that troubled children exhibit. That is Anita’s problem. Joran was treated like a prince. His reward for causing trouble in their home was his own living quarters at the age of 14. If only she would have curbed some of his nighttime activities.
It was only a couple of hours after the breaking Northern Illinois University story that Joran’s fate was announced. Once again when another horrific story dominated the news Aruba made their move.
BTW, I’m sad. I went to NIU. (A long time ago.)This stuff is hitting too close to home. I only live 12 miles from that other famous Peterson, Drew.
Please let us know an address where money can be sent in to help in Richard’s efforts at the travel shows.
The Hague can prosecute Nazis
but not Sloot?
I am new to this fourm, but have been following the case from the beginnig. I’ve made a small donation to the search effort, but would like more information with regards to an “Offical” protest or petition? I would very much like to help get the word out to those that have not found their way to this fourm or ones like it. It is very apparent how crooked the judicial system is in Aruba, and a BOYCOTT might be the only way to put pressure on the local government. Your help and direction is appreciated.
Texas_Dad
Although Urine has once again escaped justice, there are still some very effective things that we can do. We must do our very best to make certain that U.S. citizens do not set foot on the corrupt island of Aruba. We need to focus on a very public boycott that reaches newspapers, the Internet, travel agents, the airlines, and cruise ships. We also need to reach into our pockets and support Texas EquuSearch to make certain that the Persistence has the needed funds to search every inch of the ocean floor that surrounds that miserable island. We need to bring Natalee home.
#85 Texas Dad, go to Aruban Boycott Blog where Michelle has a petition going already. Last time I checked there were about 1650 signatures.
Dave,
No offense taken, at all. I do wish our government would step in and at least demand answers in lieu of a total ban on travel to Aruba.
They need some quiet time, don’t you think?
I AM SO DISAPPOINTED WITH WHAT I HEARD NO REARREST.. I FOUND THIS ARTICLE AT
PETER DEVRIES WEBSITE..THE CRIME REPORTER
NO REARREST FOR JORAN: HOW DO YOU
EXPLAIN THAT TO HER RELATIVES…..?
Joran van der Sloot will not be rearrested for his role in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, according to a decision handed down by the Court on Aruba last night. This is not altogether surprising, considering an earlier pronouncement by the examining judge that the case is now technically ‘on appeal’, but it is difficult to explain. The main problem is that Dutch law does not provide for detention on remand for disposing of a body. It is indeed an offence which carries a maximum penalty of six months imprisonment, but one can’t be kept in custody pending such a sentence.
- INCOMPREHENSIBLE AND INCONCEIVABLE -
If, during the drives, Joran had admitted to doing something to Natalee, this would imply a different – more serious – offence, which would indeed have allowed for detention on remand.
However legally correct this may be, this approach remains incomprehensible and inconceivable to Natalee’s relatives. During five separate drives, Joran admitted to being present when Natalie died, that he didn’t go for help but rather had her body dumped in the ocean so that the police and her relatives could never find out what happened. As soon as the detectives’ investigations showed that he certainly must have been involved in the disappearance however, he chose to lie to the world in a despicable manner about his actions and movements on the night concerned.
- REWARD FOR SABOTAGING INVESTIGATION -
It is a bitter pill to swallow – one that I have also come across in other cases – where a suspect has disposed of a body and managed to get off scot-free. Why does one dispose of the body? It is almost invariably to prevent the police from establishing exactly what happened to the person, usually because an offence has been committed. Also, for intentionally sabotaging the resulting investigation, one isn’t punished but rather rewarded because one cannot be arrested. What is just is not always fair. I will try to explain the logic of this to Beth Holloway, Natalee’s mother, but I doubt I will succeed.
In addition, the Court on Aruba stated that it’s ‘impression’ that Joran is a systematic liar further underpinned its decision. Usually, the fact that someone tells a pack of lies in a case concerning life and death should be a valid reason on its own to arrest the suspect, if only for the opportunity to get to the bottom of the matter.
- ADMISSION WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE? -
One of the things that Joran is certainly lying about is that his admissions in the car were made under the influence of marijuana. I must reiterate that Joran constantly admitted his role during five separate drives. During some of them, he did indeed smoke a joint, as is his habit. However, the TV footage shows clearly that during some of the drives he did NOT smoke, or did so only AFTER Natalee’s case was discussed. And never for a single moment did Joran say anything during a subsequent drive to intimate that last time, he had been stoned and had sprouted a lot of hot air. On the contrary. Each time, Joran reconfirmed his involvement in the disappearance, augmenting his confessions with new details. And during this frequently repeated account while ‘under the influence’, he also provided precise responses to the unanswered questions that police and justice still have in this case.
Moreover, anyone who has ever smoked marijuana knows that it effect does not prompt you to admit to unsolved crimes. Where that is the case, police stations in the Netherlands and elsewhere would be overflowing.
- INVESTIGATION CONTINUES-
For all clarity, the fact that Van der Sloot has not been taken into custody on remand does not mean that the judicial investigation against him has come to an end. Far from it. The Public Prosecutor is working hard on the case in which Joran van der Sloot is still prime suspect.
Peter R. de Vries
Translation: Andrew M. Bergman
Billy,
They can arrest innocent Black security guards on the word of Joran (hotel story) but cannot arrest him on his own words.
No it’s not corruption, we just don’t understand their system?
I think we do.
I know we have a lot of people that want to post here but can you do it shorter intervals…thank you
And Texas Dad, ask JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com to put you on the mailing list. This is a sort of information clearing house on protests to be held at Aruba Tourism Authority promotion events.
Our purpose (I say “Our,” since I started these protests about a year ago, in Boston, and continue to encourage them) is to deter people from going to Aruba and to put Aruba on notice that it cannot do what it wants to do … to have the Natalee Holloway case be forgotten.
No justice for Natalee … no tourism for Aruba.
There are events in Boston and New York coming up very soon, and more later. We want the ATA to be confronted by protesters at every event it dares hold in this country.
Stand up for Natalee! Help protect other Americans … keep the case in the public eye.
FELLOW MONKEYS
I FEEL LIKE SOME OF U READERS
.. I share the same sentiment.. No one is coming foward that knows anything.. If they seen something happen..they arent talking for fear..of .. because in aruba the corruption is so deep.. that .. they would probably with no doubt get retribution.if they talked…. many have been paid large sums of money.. because the justice system there is going to coverup for pauulus.. theres alot of criminal underworld things going on..
Brie,
Every 20.3 posts? How about everyone post something of value?
You still don’t get it do you?
No body no case.
SS #86
WE NEED TO DO A NATIONAL BOYCOTT.. DO MORE AWARENESS. OVIOUSLY ARUBA DOESNT CARE.. SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE ANTI AMERICAN.. WE NEED TO HIT THEM IN THE POCKETS…YOUR IDEAS SS ARE GREAT.. THERE NEEDS TO BE A NATIONAL OUTCRY FOR JUSTICE… WE NEED TO BRING NATALIE HOME… WHAT A MOCKERY… WHAT DISGUSTING VILES LIVE THERE… I HOPE JORAN OR PAUULUS GETS THERES…. SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY THE MOB TO DISPOSE OF THAT GARBAGE.. HAHAHA
BRIE
EXPLAIN THE POSTING.. U SAY LONG POSTING .. HINDER MANY FROM BEING ABLE TO POST.. XPLAIN.. HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN POST A DAY??
I DONT UNDERSTAND…ALOT OF THE LONG POSTING I ENJOY THEY ARE VERY INFORMATIVE.. MANY ARE SHARING ARTICLES THEY CUT N PASTE FROM OTHER LINKS.. ALOT OF GOOD INFO COMING THRU.. SHORT POSTING ARE SIMPLY JUST A COMMENT NO INFO JUST SHORT OPINIONS…
Good. The courts made the right decision. The so called “confession” was so patently false, it reminded you of John Mark Carr’s confession! I know the group of lawyers here in FLorida who’ve been generously funding Joran’s defense will be pleased. Joran’s got an incredible amount of support here. Two of our local defense lawyers flew to Aruba with Joe T to help out with all the running around and finding the people they had to talk to. Good work guys!!
Jasper, #20,
Joran said that Natalee died of convulsions, which is consistent with being drugged with GHB.
Read this report.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=5959393
theres no new evidence because Joran admitted he killed her in his lost deposition, and he already got 3 months jail time as a minor for disposing of the body. no when Joran get high or drunk he can say whatever he wants about Natalee and nothing will ever become of it. I think someone will knock him off one day because he such a mentally ill PUNK.
someone needs to print a couple of thousands bumper stickers that says “Aruba is a Lawless Island”
WAS NATALEE HOLLOWAY DRUGGED?
A MUST-READ. See link in #99
original thanks to Vicki for posting.
benh: the americans that know about this corruption and still go to aruba are probably going for the drugs that are sold so easily in full view of the cops.
they have this idea that they are going to some beautiful island to meet gilligan and drink from coconuts. there is no telling how many american women are drugged and raped there. they do not speak up for fear of embarrasment or shame.
we know sloot did this at least 20 times and got away with it with the help of daddy and the police force. the kalpoes know exactly what went on and participated. these are also two hateful little punk slaves of the sloots. i think dr. phil is going to stomp a mudhole in them and walk it dry. that is unless we get a paid off judge here too. very possible.
gotta agree with Galen, Joran’s “confession” really brought him alot of support! Just not in the country he’s hiding under his bed from.
Lots more keeping the lawyer meter running if you call that support? Joey T. Staffing up in a down economy!
The van der sloots keep on giving.
Poor guys…ALE was ready to put them in prison…all on the word or Joran and his partners in crime…ask the prison warden he know’s all about Joran’s background…..how ultimately disgusting..the guards weren’t even there…Dompig your orders came from Straaten… he looks like a drunk… and a druggie…which he probably is..these people live without remorse…disgusting individuals…
The presiding judge stays at the Sloot household..if your house hasn’t been set on fire by now I am surprised…what more are you going to do to the people of Aruba..time will tell..I think you reached the point of not return…destruction to the island…again and again…payback…!!!Go for it Aruba….we have no sympathy for the Sloot family…!!!!
Joran is headed for the disco bar tonight….I hope we don’t see him tomorrow…
Does Peter De Vries know Queen Beatrix?
It is time someone contact her about this case. Maybe she will send some people down to Aruba get to the bottom of this… THis is an international embarrassment to the Netherlands!
OK Monkeys, let’s get busy. Go to http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com. Here you will find details about the Natalee Holloway case, a petition to sign, and the addresses of your senators, representatives, and the U.S. Embassy to the Netherlands. We need to flood Capital Hill with emails about Natalee’s travesty of justice. We need to contact local travel agencies, large travel companies, and cruise lines who make regular stops in Oranjestad. Financial support is needed by EquuSearch. The address is Texas EquuSearch Mounted SAR Team, P.O. Box 395, Dickinson, Texas 77539. Indicate that your check is for Natalee Holloway and Persistence. Send an “appropriate” email to everyone you know, detailing the dangers of traveling to the corrupt and dangerous island of Aruba. These emails will multiply exponentially. If each of us does a little, the result will be tremendous.
The Man upstairs always has a way of righting the wrongs of people. May take some time but, he will take care of it. Including those who bear false witness. Ain’t that right, Jan van der straaten?
How do you spell “vigilante”?
I have been to Aruba twice & enjoyed my stays. I will never travel there again. Period.
My thoughts are with Natalee’s family at this again distressful time.
No body, no case, huh? Maybe Joran and Paulus will turn up missing.
Galen
I know a few attorneys here in the Midwest that thinks this is a true travesty of justice.
The thing, here in the Midwest, in the winter these lawyers like to go to warm places, however, Aruba will not be on their list of destinations. None of them feel there is a chance in hell for justice if something happens to you on that island.
BTW, I am thinking about a game show, should bring in Gazillions to Aruba.
I have some titles:
Meet the Liars (aka which liar you gonna believe)
Where are the liars?
Think like a liar
Trading Liars
The Liars Next Door
Big People/Big Liars
this is very sad indeed. it is my opinion, and we all have one, that everyone is missing the point here.joran played a critical part in this disappearance BUT joran is covering for one person, daddy sloot. if you will read Into The Deep by Andrew Hodges, MD forensic profiler,Dr Hodges has possession of and has decoded the 4 page email sent by Deepak to an american “friend” 5 days after this whole sorrid affair happened. Deepak knows EXACTLY what happened, as well as Paulus,joran and satish. this is a must read book,deepak outlines in great length the events that happened from the gang rape of Nataleeby 2ks and joran, the first phone call to paulus, to deepaks car being stashed at VDS home for cleaning, etc. BUT once again, the baboons in the aruban government would not allow the report to be admissable into the case. wonder why? Paulus is your main guy, with all upper echeleon of aruban government covering every step paulus/joran made. yes, is does make me very angry that these people have gotten away with murder. #20, what happened to the Joran Suicide watch? that didn’t last long. suicide hell!! he should really be more concerned about a sniper. his day is coming. the rest of the VDSluts too.
Well who here is really surprised at the outcome?
If anybody knows where to find information about other possible past rape/murder victims of the “Pimps”, please let me know where to go. I’ve only heard speculation and seen a couple non-informative websites saying the boys have been linked to previous gang rape and abuse of young local and tourist girls. Thanks for any info.
Also, anybody seen the “Devil’s Advocate”? I think that Joe Taco is probably working for Satan too up there in New York. And as far as Joran is concerned, his idol is probably Patrick Bateman from “American Psycho”.
No body, no crime for the security guards too?
But they had a “homicide” without a body?
Oh yeah, the black guys understand Aruba Justice.
#107 SS: Go away troll.
I am just joking…but that is what I was told to do when I suggested the same things a year ago. When I suggested many times that the only way to get “justice” was to hammer our (USA) politicians, not boycotting Aruba, I was told to f-off this was Aruba/Netherlands problem and they need to take care of it.
Anyone believe me now?
This should have been done at minimum a year ago. It’s a waste of energy to boycott Aruba when it could take just 1 or 2 calls from the right person in the US to get closure for the Holloways.
Of course that’s if you care about closure rather than revenge.
“In taking revenge, a man is but even with his enemy; but in passing it over, he is superior.” Francis Bacon
jasper on February 15th, 2008 8:49 am
As I told you this morning, and as I have been telling you before, by our Dutch law this will not hold in court. The “confession”, it not valid as legal evidence in court. And what did he say ? the girl died from natural reasons (Rum 151).
So Joran is a dr. now that can determine that someone died of natural causes from rum151? It’s been stated repeatedly that Dr. Michael Boden said a person who dies of alcohol or drug poisoning goes into a coma that can last four hours or days.. A person does not die like that. Natalee as a healthy 18 year old. She walked out of the bar on her own.. She talked to her friends. Is that consistent with a person who so intoxicated, they are ready to die from it? No~! slurred speech, loss of motor skills, even bladder, anxiety, can’t walk without assistance, massive confusion. Furthermore how could anyone say she was consensually engaged in sex with him in that condition? How about a drug in the rum151 that needed time to take effect? Why does 3 men go to a bar at closing time and move in on 1 intoxicated female? Focus on that.. I can only think of one reason. How could they be sure she would want to engage in that? I can think of one way.. Natalee had been with her friends having fun for about 4 days and when these 3 entered the picture all of that changed in a matter of minutes forever..
As for a cover up.. the night Beth arrived in Aruba, before it was known Natalee was missing, Deepak’s car was parked behind the Sloots.. When people went looking for Joran’s house, there was the car parked that Joran had been in and one of the people wrote the tag numbers down on it. In Deepak’s police statement,,he says he was at work then the casino..doesn’t mention Sloots. Why was he parked at the Sloots and lying about it before it was known Natalee was missing publicly? When cops arrive and honk at the Sloots.. finally Paulus comes to the door… carrying his cellphone after he was woke up.. what a coincidence,,he needed that phone to call Joran , he wasn’t home.. Paulus leads everyone away from the house for over an hour to go to the Wyndham looking for Joran. Why? Why not say the cops are here get home? Why would he lead the cops to where his underage son was gambling past 2am, instead of saying come home, the cops want to talk to you? When Natalee’s family arrive back at the house,, Joran and Deepak are dirty and not even dressed for a casino, Why? When Joran arrived, he told Natalee’s family when he saw Natalee’s picture, he didn’t know Natalee or her name. One big fat lie.. Why would cops now believe anything else he says? He goes into an elaborate trip to the lighthouse with all kinds of sexual stuff, describing Natalee’s underwear and body parts, and that she is falling asleep off and on(Rape?). They all go to Holiday Inn to show where they let Natalee out.. Deepak and Joran show 2 dif. places and the guards who work there clothes aren’t even the same as Holiday Inn guards. More lies… Deepak then says they go back to the Sloots and Paulus, Joran and him are sitting in Joran’s room on the floor talking.. Where is Satish? Why was it important to take everyone away from the house for an hour or so instead of telling Joran to come home? Deepak says in his police statement, he then went home to bed, and chatted when he woke up then on to work, however Beth and Jug were at the police station bright and early to give a statement to Dennis Jacobs.. First he is using a slang word for bitch around them.. then is complaining he hasn’t had his Frosted Flakes or coffee and needs to shave.. so Beth and Jug wait.. but when they arrived, Deepak’s car is parked behind the police station why? He says he went home.. Reports of the Kalpoes also cleaning their car before daylight…for ants,,then it was sand..the night Natalee disappeared. Beth went out in the parking lot and sat on the ground, tired from waiting to give a statement.. Straten came out and said you can’t sit out here and made her go back in. In a bit, Jacobs comes out and says we won’t be needing your statement today. After all that? What was going on in the back? A couple days after Natalee disappeared, cops with Beth watched the Holiday Inn surveillance tape,, Natalee did NOT return to Holiday Inn, like the 3 said.. still the cops went out and found 2 black guards based on that stupid evidence, woke them up at daylight and searched them, arrested them and was holding them on suspicion of murder and kidnapping. Renfro came out and said the cops have good solid evidence against the guards.. What happened to it? 3 known liars good solid evidence? Still no search of the last 3 with Natalee or holding them and questioning.. Wait for 10 days while they are meeting with each other and Paulus getting stories straight and Paulus is hiring them lawyers. Straten was out June 5th said he didn’t believe the girl was alive anymore,, when a Dutch reporter asked him why..he said because he saw the evidence. Where did it go? A confession that something bad happened Dompig announced it..and they were being led to the body..then fake out,, just kidding..never mind.. Renfro and others leading this grieving family on wild goose chases.. None of the Kalpoes or Sloots went to look for Natalee, instead they were busy meeting to make up more and making derogatory remarks about the victims. This is only the tip of the iceberg of what we have seen and anyone who looks at this and thinks this is business as usual..has to be just a cuckoo as the people who did it.
Aruban authorities act as though they WANT
the island to be boycotted!
I hope Aruba realizes just how damaging to tourism
this travesty of justice will be.
Aruba has seen nothing yet.
da wench
If those two ended up missing, do you’d think Aruba would solve the case of the missing Sloats?
Deetch has it right.
What did they have two snatch the Security Guard’s liberties in just a wink?
Somehow Joran’s liberty is always such a big concern! If you come from the other side of the trax – or are a different color. Bye bye, you are shite. Some one will blow that dirtbag and his dad away soon enough. Couldn’t happen fastly enough. They are such human trash bins.
Can you imagine that sociopath killer is still loose, trying to make new friends. What family would ever allow him to befriend their son or daughter now???…they would dial 911 for the American Police, as soon as they heard his name “URINE”.
Meanwhile, our own president takes off for Africa today … nary a word on Natalee since day one.
Here’s an e-mail I sent today to Hero Brinkman, the Dutch parliamentarian who ruffled the feathers of Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles by calling them a haven of thieves and gangsters.
Aruba let it be known that he was “persona non grata,” though for different reasons than Joran.
Maybe he’s the one who will take up the cause in the Netherlands? Or will nobody there do anything except cry crocodile tears?
Sir:
Though you are Dutch, and I am American, we seem to share disgust at the corruption that flourishes in Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles.
Americans are outraged at the latest verdict that again finds no reason to arrest Joran van der Sloot in the Natalee Holloway case, despite his admissions of involvement that were taped over several sessions. We remember that, soon after Natalee went missing on Aruba, two security guards were arrested on no evidence at all.
Few people now believe there is any chance that Aruba will ever render justice in this case. For whatever reasons, the pervasive cover-up seems to control that island.
However, injustice in Aruba is by no means unique to this occasion. On the Rita Cosby show of April 13, 2006, American Tracy Allan discussed her assault on an Aruban beach nine days before Natalee vanished. “I signed a statement and they said they would look into it and I didn’t hear anything.”
A Boston woman, identified only as Marie, said that she was kidnapped and raped on Aruba in 2001. “Aruba is not as safe as the commercials make it out to be. As I was being pulled into the vehicle, screams came out of me … and people did nothing.”
These comments appeared on the Greta van Susteren show blog of August 6, 2006: “Apparently the island is inundated with crime due to drugs. … They try so desperately to keep it secret — I learned this from the natives.
“Crime is rampant on the island and word needs to get out. We type messages on the Aruban message boards to warn the people and they do not get posted.”
Nor are Arubans exempt from crime. One horrific case was reported in the Diario of July 27, 2006: a girl, 16, was gang-raped by her schoolmates, the assault was photographed on cell phones and the pictures were posted on the Internet. Her family ultimately left the “happy island,” with no arrests apparently ever made.
For further information on Aruba, I refer you to “The Rothschilds of the Mafia on Aruba,” an article to be found at http://www.tni.org/archives/tblick/aruba.htm.
Even more sinister is the case of Amy Bradley, who in March 1998 vanished from a cruise ship that was docking in Curacao. The night before, members of the crew asked her to go with them to Carlos ‘n’ Charlies on Aruba. She spurned them, only to go missing in Curacao.
Recent photographs, and several sightings over the years, give strong reason to believe that Amy remains alive, in a situation of duress. Her family’s investigations have met with scant cooperation from Curacao authorities.
On the island of Saba, also part of the Netherlands Antilles, when American Joel Gove went missing recently, authorities gave his family minimal cooperation and finally refused to allow ‘missing person’ signs to be posted. His body later was found, but the family was faced with the prospect of having to finance a private search team.
There are other cases, but to report them all would be superfluous. What dismays the American people, I believe, is that the Dutch seem largely oblivious or indifferent to the reality behind the “tourist paradise” image that monied interests wish to promote.
I wish you to be aware that there is an active, and growing, grassroots movement among Americans that is concerned mainly with encouraging tourists to boycott Aruba.
We are hoping that our Dutch friends, having been awakened to the reality of what passes for justice in Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles, will take an interest in this.
As you are, to my knowledge, the sole Dutch parliamentarian to denounce the Netherlands Antilles, I wish to advise you of this campaign. It is entirely a volunteer movement, with no ties to anyone.
For more information, please enquire at JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com. I appreciate your attention and assistance on this matter, and hope that you will take the lead in demanding justice for Natalee and all other victims of crimes to which Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles appear indifferent, or determined not to solve.
So many have sold their souls to the devil to cover for PVS and son.
Why???? What on earth is so special about Sloooooots? What evil powers do they have?
I agree totally, Maggie (#117) … the THREE (at least), not just the ONE.
Please..post often but don’t make them so long…!!!
Associated Press
June 7, 2005
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158666,00.html
Aruban police in unmarked cars accompanied by FBI agents made a pre-dawn raid at 5 a.m. Sunday, rousting two suspects aged 28 and 30 from their beds.
An AP photographer watched as the rumpled men — one from the De Vuiyst housing project for poorer islanders and another from an average home in southeast San Nicolas — emerged without resistance, hands cuffed behind their backs.
Police searched the homes and emerged with what looked like a metal safe deposit box and a garbage bag of clothing.
Straaten is JVDS godfather
Lorenzo is bastard child of the Ditch
Guido is cousin to Arelene
Dompig related to Kalpoe
SGC Father is high ranking in judicial system
Cromvoirt father owns video/security
ArubaGate
DutchGate
Boycott the corrupt of Holland!
hmmm, didn’t the president sign a bill shortly after this happened banning offshore inter-net gambling on american credit cards? wasn’t aruba the place where most of it was taking place?
add to it the loss of tourism & frankly, i have no clue how the islanders will make it. now they have half of the netherlands shouting that joran’s guilty.
now what’s happened with the admission by joran that his father sneaked a cell phone to him in jail? is that now considered a “lie” as well?
note to arubans: be prepared for tax increases to pay for the huge law suit that joran’s claiming he’s filing against the country. serves you right.
note to anita: get a clue!
Hey, folks, this IS interesting!
I was looking through my old files for the letter that Aruba Tourism Authority sent to me, back when we were getting the first boycott meeting under way. (“We regarded Natalee Holloway as our own daughter,” or something like that, was just one of the outrageous lines.)
Lo and behold, I unearthed this:
On October 25, 2000, a young Dutch woman named Suzanne de Vries went missing on Aruba. I had the family’s e-mail address, to which I wrote at one point with no response.
Have any of our Dutch friends heard of this case?
The name deVries is of interest.
(Never heard anything more about this case, just like so many others on Aruba.)
Taco Penis is on Fox now
@4:11 PM Central time
Boycott this shit hole island, bunch of corrupt cops and money laundering junkies .If they had a video of the crime happening it still wouldnt be enough!!
Here’s a very perceptive comment by Peter deVries, as reported on Radio Netherlands:
Mr De Vries says that Joran van der Sloot has hindered the legal process of establishing the truth. He also questions the view of the Curaçao court, as expressed by a spokesperson, that Mr Van der Sloot may be suffering from a mental condition. Mr De Vries says:
“It is curious for a court spokesman to say anything about a suspect’s mental make-up. As far as I know, Joran van der Sloot has never undergone any psychiatric tests, so the court is apparently speaking on the basis of impressions only. I believe that is improper.”
Meanwhile, here’s another comment, this one by Joran’s Dutch mouthpiece, that I would like to see subjected to experiment, and verification:
Suspect gone into hiding
Bert de Rooij, the lawyer of the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that his client Joran van der Sloot is in hiding in the Netherlands and fears for his life. “He’s not hiding from the police, but from a nationwide kangaroo court. He has very good reasons to fear that if he goes out he won’t make it to the other side of the street.”
#116 yoyo muffintop
There is a tremendous difference between revenge and justice. Perhaps you should reread blog #107. There are numerous things that we can do and ways that we can use our public voices to bring about justice and closure for Natalee Holloway. A multi-faceted approach would most likely be the most effective and productive.
#116
Hey YOYOASS,
Screw Francis Bacon. I feel anyone at this point that makes the pricks pay is FAR SUPERIOR to that trash. I believe in “AN EYE FOR AN EYE”. I think all the pricks should suffer tenfold and SLOWLY for this along with all of you trolls. May you all ROT IN HELL and somebody put you there sooner than later!!!!!!!!!!
JORAN”S DAY OF JUDGEMENT WILL COME MY FELLOW MONKEYS!!!!!
FOREVER BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!
FOREVER!!!
JORAN, I HOPE YOU ENJOY LIVING A LIFE IN SHAME AND GO TO HELL!!!!
#117 Maggie – So you agree he should not have been arrested based off these “confession” tapes.
“The appeals court ruled that Van der Sloot’s statements were inconsistent with other evidence and insufficient to hold him”
You agree as well…at least based off your #117 post.
and btw, I didn’t read all of it, but in your first couple of lines you mention the car at the VDS. If you really believe that then you must believe Beth & Co arrived on Aruba at 7pm, not 11pm. Same guy who said about the car is the same guy that recently changed his story about the plane arrival. Who to believe??
I’ll bet Freddy and Paulus are losing sleep…ha ha!
I found that letter from Aruba Tourism Authority.
It came almost exactly a year ago. At that time, arrangements for the Boston protest, the first one as of that date, were well under way. ScaredMonkeys had given us publicity, and it seems that the ATA was monitoring things.
I can hardly imagine that I was important enough in their eyes to merit a letter. Here it is:
Oranjestad, February 13, 2006
Dear (Richard),
Thank you for contacting us about your concern for finding Natalee. The investigation remains very active and outgoing.
We have responded as though it is our own child who is missing.
As a way of maintaining and communicating an accurate public record of events, Aruba has established a micro web site to answer questions and provide continuously updated information plus a timeline of the case. Just go to http://www.aruba.com and click on Natalee Holloway Case Updates. Let me invite you to visit this site to gain a better sense of the major effort the people of Aruba have undertaken — literally from the time Natalee disappeared.
The people of Aruba have responded to this situation with great sympathy for the anguish the Holloway and Twitty families are experiencing. The Aruban community, police, government, and many members of the Aruban business community have extensively assisted the Holloway and Twitty families by participating in repeated searches of the island, donating large sums of money to search efforts, offering discounted as well as complimentary services, handing out ribbons and flyers, holding vigils and prayer services, setting up radio station tip hotlines, and cooperating fully with police officials.
From the moment Ms. Holloway was first reported missing, our Government and the people of Aruba, though shocked, mobilized an immediate and continuous outpouring of help in many forms. The total contribution of the people and government of Aruba is enormous.
Our entire country has come together to help solve this mystery. This may be the first time any nation has mobilized so completely to find a single missing person.
Our efforts have been met with gratitude by some, skepticism by others, and with calls for boycotts by a few.
We are an island of peace and love, visited by thousands of Americans each year (many Americans own homes here, and many more others (sic) own timeshare (sic)). Our efforts to find Natalee and to determine exactly what happen continue, and we ask your support for these efforts.
The calls for boycotts by a few elected U.S. government officials are against U.S. foreign policy. Aruba, as part of the Kingdom of The Netherlands, has asked Holland to address this matter diplomatically with United States (sic). The island’s defense and foreign affairs are the responsibility of The Netherlands.
Visit our web site, http://www.aruba.com. Study it, understand our actions, and then join us as our efforts continue, as we extend our thoughts and most heartfelt prayers for Natalee’s safe return, and as we seek the closure, comfort, and peace of mind for her family and friends.
Sincerely,
/s/ Castro Perez
Aruba Tourism Authority
# 94 – LOL @ Deetch
Something of value would be nice, but I’m afraid you’d be asking for too much from some, especially the trolls…
Do you still have your blog up? I kinda miss the old days on the Yahoo message boards, but then again there was so many uncaring, hateful, bigoted sub-humans lerking from within. SM is much nicer and at least monitored.
To Mike & Patrick G,
From both of yas lip-usses to God’s ears,
brothasssssss!!!!
—
Here is Joe T & Rosie the Hot effin’ stinky
windbag DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE!
hOOOOOOO hoooooo
hooooo Joran,
you JUST-A-REE-DICK-U-LOUSSSSSSS!
-Ricky Ricardo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RznNns4-MXQ
-j4n
You can imagine the impact of that letter on those of us who were resolved to hold a protest.
It did not sway us then.
Nor does it now.
Nor will it ever.
But there are new leaders and a new e-mail address to contact for information. Please write to JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com and ask to be kept up on the protest schedule.
And consider taking part.
If you can’t, please support those persons who can and will, and let it be known that you will not back off from demanding justice for Natalee.
If you don’t, who will?
It’s time to extradite Joran for his crimes.
It’s time for a complete boycott of Aruba. It needs to be well organized.
from the above article:
“…Van der Sloot’s secretly filmed statements that he was with the girl when she died, and that he disposed of her body, do not constitute new legal evidence.”
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Of course not, it is not “NEW” evidence because it is almost the same confession they got from the suspect that was going to lead them to the body 2 1/2+ years ago… JORAN
They need to take young Prince Sporter off of his throne, and let him know he owes them, at the very least, a courtesy flush.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3903/jorantoiletka0.png
Uh … sorry about that. It’s now 2008, and the letter was dated 2006 … that makes it TWO years ago, not one.
It really is true … as you get older, the years fly by!
# 130, Saoirse,
Thanks for the update, but I have NO INTEREST in hearing what Tacopina has to say… I don’t even know how Taco sleeps at night!
Unconfirmed sources report the bounty on Joran has now surpassed $50,000 U.S. Beyond amazing.
That’s an awful lot of green…….I for one don’t think he’s worth .10 cents, not a measely thin dime. But hey, whatever it takes is probably a bargain at this point.
If you cant get em one way then try another.
I smell a OJ style civil suit coming up. I just hope there is a competent Dutch attorney that will represent the family.
Real justice will be bringing home Natalee
Money laundering
Tax evasion
Women slave trade
Drug trafficking
How high does it go in the Netherlands?
The Hague can prosecute Nazis but cannot touch Sloot?
HollandGate
Boycott the Netherlands
#116 yoyo muffintop
Perhaps you could best use your energies doing some of the things mentioned in blog #107, instead of bullying other bloggers on this site. What have you done to help bring closure and justice for Natalee Holloway?
I am as outraged and furious as the rest of you. But I am NOT surprised.
Just saw Taco & Rosemary on Big Story w/ John Gibson/Fox news
Taco and the prosecution [go the SM forum for more details on Hans Mos’s excuses for Joranj] are already “suggesting” rather MAKING MORE EXCUSES FOR JORAN. Excuses!!!!!!!
He lied, he is a liar
Under the influence of pot
Taco: “He obviously needs to get some help, get some counseling …”
What’s next the insanity defense????
I could go on and on. It is absolutely pathetic!!!!!!!!
So people, lets’ be clear Aruba is never going to convict Joran and/or The Higher Powers.
God Bless Pieter and Patrick, SM, Beth & Dave & Jug, and all!!!!!!!!
To the PERSISTENCE TEAM, God Speed!!!!! But, when you find Natalee Do NOT give any information or evidence to ALE or anyone in Aruba. NO!!!!!!!! Give your findings to Beth, Dave, Jug, Pieter De Vries, Dr. Baden. Otherwise ALE will say it is more “donkey bones” and more BS to support the OBVIOUS COVER UP & CORRUPTION.
Keep in mind, they have gone to extraordinary lengths to cover up the crime!!!!
They have never and continue to never go to extraordinary lengths to SOLVE THE CRIME.
That is difference and as Beth, Dave, Jug and all of us have said is WHY THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED 10 DAYS TO COVER UP/GET RID OF ANY AND ALL EVIDCENCE AND NEARLY 3 YEARS LATER KEEP COVERING UP/GETTING RID OF EVIDENCE.
THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT IF THE PERSISTENCE FOUND NATALEE’S REMAINS, [GOD BLESS HER, I FEEL HORRIBLE EVEN SAYING THIS] IN A CAGE WITH JORAN’S SHOES AND VIDEO TAPE OF THE GANG RAPE AND ALL THOSE MISSING CELL PHONES, ETC………..
THE ALE WILL HAVE AN EXCUSE FOR THAT TOO!!!!!!!!!! SHAME ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is going to take more efforts on Pieter’s part, and fellow HERO’S like Patrick, SM – God Bless you SM!!!!!!!!!!!! to expose the TRUTH.
The guilty have ALWAYS STEERED THE TRUTH AWAAAYYYYYYYY FROM THE TRUTH AWAYYYYYYY FROM JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s just hope no one foolishly wacks Joran or Paulus/Daury. Then again if they decided to reenact that scene from Syriana when they pull his fingernails and toenails out one by one, well that too would not be admissible because Joran and Daury were under duress.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AN EXCUSE NOT TO CONVICT.
THERE WILL NEVER BE A REASON TO CONVICT, NEVER A REASON TO SEEK JUSTICE, NEVER A REASON TO REVEAL THE TRUTH.
SADLY THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ARUBA WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER.
AND YES WE WILL CONTINUE TO BOYCOTT BECAUSE THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND CORRUPTION AND A COVERUP. MAKES ME SICK!!!!!!!!!
NATALEE, GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!! You were NEVER in Joran’s arms, YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE ARMS OF GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NATALEE, YOU ARE IN YOUR PARENTS AND FAMILY’S ARMS, IN OUR ARMS AND IN OUR PRAYERS AND IN OUR HEARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE PERSISTENT IN THE TRUTH, YOUR TRUTH AND YOUR FAMILY’S TRUTH. PERSISTENCE WILL PERSEVERE!!!!!!!!
J4N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the Aruban, dutch, or U.S. governments do not step in soon and put and end to this corruption nightmare then I am very fearful that their will be vigilante justice which IMO would be the worst possible ending for this case. Throughout history when people have banded together for the common good then mountains have been moved I believe it’s time to move mountains. We can write call and talk to our congressmen, senators, etc. and let them know that we expect justice for our fellow American citizen! We could turnout in droves to the Boston and New York travel shows and any other travel shows that Aruba is a part of to show that we will not be silenced. Arubans and Dutch alike can put pressure on their politicians as well. (Imagine several nations of people banding together for a common goal of justice, that could move an island!)
As always JMHO DD
Yep as I expected, mental health help for Joran.
Hey Anita, you better keep Joran away from your other kids.
Multiple personalities. One for Natalee. One for Beth. One for Greta. One for Joe. One for Peter….how many?
ISN’T THERE ENOUGH HURT..WHY DO SOME PEOPLE COME ON HERE AN CAUSE MORE..THE SAME MINDSET AS JORAN…GET OFF OF HERE!!!!SCARED MONKEYS…PLEASE DO NOT POST THEM ANYMORE!!!
it is now time to get serious about how we move forward. i am very serious about taking the fight to the next level, their wallets. we must get to each and every american company who serves the hospitality and tourism of aruba. travel agents, cruise line, airlines, hotels, all retail chains. we must picket and post until it is too painful to do business in aruba. i am not above disinformation, not that it’s necessary. shows like the view that give away trips to aruba should be humiliated with hecklers. CEOs of these companies should get Joran whip cream pies in their face. we must not let Joran Van der Sloot stand triumphant. the word boycott is not strong enough, we must go on offense now. assemble, picket, protest, humiliate. think of peta throwing fake blood on models that wear fur…that’s where we need to go. we can make every American company pull all financical and human resource off this island. we should brand it to make it catch on. one of you monkies must be a marketing mind, we need to brand the next step. boycott is too passive. let’s make sure Natalee’s death was not in vain. he called her a whore and laughed at the idea that maybe she was still alive.
posted by Klaas in the forum:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3311688/_Joran_geplukt_door_Beth__.html
Through translator:
Joran picked by Beth
Beth Twitty, Natalees mother, is preparing a civil lawsuit against Joran van der Sloot.
Mother Beth had a lot to with Nathalee
She has previously lawyer Bram Moszkowicz approached. Moszkowicz examine whether Joran van der Sloot has been guilty of ‘tort’, on the basis of which he financially can be addressed, so that the lawyer said Friday in NOVA.
Her decision follows the decision of the Court on Curaçao that Joran van der Sloot will not be re-arrested in the Holloway case. According to the court, the programme of Peter R. De Vries not enough significant new evidence. The Public Prosecutor and the Court will not rule out that Joran has a severe personality disorder, which makes him less credible. The OM goes by investigating his role in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
Now a successful criminal therefore uncertain if Natalees mother, a civil lawsuit against Joran van der Sloot start. When it comes to a procedure will be conducted in the Netherlands. Moszkowicz notes two facts as tort: the shock that Beth Twitty is being taken because they had knowledge of Jorans confessions in the program by Peter R. De Vries, and the concealment of the facts by Joran van der Sloot.
According to crime reporter Peter R. De Vries makes it an important opportunity.
The civil proceeding is separate from the criminal prosecution by the public prosecutor in Aruba. The probability that Joran criminal will be convicted eight Moszkowicz small. He considers the decision to non-detention by the court of the Dutch Antilles as a clue: “I think the criminal case at the end of runs. I say that I do not understand, or that I agree with it.”
Hey, Joey,
If Joran is so “sick” and needs help, then why isn’t he COMMITTED to a MENTAL INSTITUTION?!
Okay, Joe, if that’s your pathetic excuse, then why isn’t Joran LOCKED AWAY where he can’t hurt anyone anymore? Hmmm?
Oh, I get it, Joe. Joran isn’t “THAT” sick. Just sick enough to get away with his crimes and be treated as an outpatient so he can continue to roam free.
Perhaps Joran’s true “sickness’ is FearofJailitis.
So Joran is going to the disco tonight…I hope the Dutch police do no have to follow him around for protection…that has become ridiculous..I hope he is gone tomorrow and I don’t care how…punk!!! His presence is a danger to anyone…
“A major, major friend of mine called me….” – Charles Croes
Who called Chuck about a cell phone?
The Monster of Montanja the Elder the Sweaty of the Ditch?
Croes knows.
Can’t sling a Yoruba priest down there without hitting a Croes.
ArubaGate
HollandGate
I wouldn’t blame the Arubans if they burnt the Sloot house down….!
83. Kris G. I remember we met at Beth’s book signing, so I knew you lived in the area, but we also went to the same university! It’s a small world after all. I remember that lecture hall, I remember protests, long before GHB and guns were common among young people. Boy do I feel old.
#149 SS – I’ve done the same as you.
#134 Mike – your post is too silly to even respond to.
123. It’s a message to Aruba and each other that they (the corrupt in Aruba and NE) will take care of their own.
Re my post 161, I meant NA, Netherlands Antilles.
Me either, Brie!!!!!
I cannot BELIEVE they haven’t been
“CHOOSE A NAMED” yet.
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Hey, barbecue on the Sloot pool deck, bro bro…
Last Sporter darrrrr is a rotten eggie! LOLOL
-j4n
Netherlands – the reputation of the Hague is garbage now
“I did not harm the girl” – JVDS
“I always tell a lie about what I did” – JVDS
Holland allows the one tiny house of Sloot to fall on the Hague?
How high does it go?
The whole world is watching!
The priest was too busy to see Dave Holloway..when a man representing God is not available….another paid person…Paulus did that..violation of a priest…
Apparently criminals are not allowed to own proprieties in Aruba, so why is Posner there…no one addresses this situation..why not!!!!
YoYo,,, they wrote the number down to Deepak’s car and guesss what it matched Deepak’s car.
Lucky guess? I don’t think so..
Deepak’s car behind the Sloots is just the beginning of this farce.
You still trying to tell us pantless man on the beach?
I hope Beth and Jug sue them all..
I just finished sending letters to both of my senators, my representative, and ATA. There are links to Congressional email addresses on http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com. The Scared Monkeys site gets hundreds of hits each night. If each of you will also send some emails it will be a step in the right direction. If nothing else, ask for official travel and safety advisories for tourists destined to Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles.
#155 … In laymans terms what was said? I could not follow what is being done…with Beth filing a civil proceedings against Joran..
Please explain… Thanks
#161
Hey YOYOASS,
I did not realize that I asked to to respond to me. Guess what I didn’t!!! I told you what I think of you and I will continue to every time you post your crap demeaning the family. You are of the same mold as the rest of the trash involved and hope you and all the trolls meet the same fate as jurine and the rest of the perps. SO please don’t waste your time talking to me, even better don’t waste your time even being here unless that is what you are paid to do.
So Aruba is trying to tell us that Joran is really “Sybil” but only in pants? Boo hoo lets all pet Jorans demons and forget about Natalee being murdered. Those sick idiots… Joran and his Aruba will suffer for this. God will not be mocked Aruba!!
Steerpike on February 15th, 2008 1:30 pm
You still don’t get it do you?
No body no case.
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No actually we do. No Van der sloot bodies, NO CASE.
If Joran chooses to constantly lie and not tell the truth…someone should beat the shit out of him to make him understand that lieing is just not acceptable. Obviously Paulus and Anita did not teach him this!!!
Someone posted an article about the mafia/drug
connections on the island and the name Croes was in the article. Any conection to the Croes that
was a suspect?? I wish someone would investigate
the druglords in aruba.
_________________
SM: Croes in Aruba is like Smith in the USA, very common name. (klaasend)
#99 J4N – I guess you forgot this was in your link:
“Doering, like all medical experts who spoke to ABC News, cautioned that their impressions were entirely speculative…”
or this:
“”To convulse and go limp, GHB is classic for that,” he said, adding that other drugs like cocaine and ecstasy can also cause convulsions when mixed with too much alcohol.”
Just has to be rape/ghb. Quite strange. Blinders maybe? Both Joran and Natalee consumed drugs illegally before the trip. So wouldn’t you say, for instance, Ecstasy+alcohol is just as logical as ghb+alcohol?
Maggie – I love how you pick and choose what to believe to suit your theory (you are not alone). I, Maggie, believe the airport guy is lying when he says Beth & Co arrived at 7pm, but I, Maggie, believe he was right about the car at VDS. Rich.
#170 – and what would that fate be? Please explain the what/how/and when?
Isn’t Tutor Time closed by now – how are you able to post?
Please show 1 post where I have “demeaned” the family Mikey. Mikey, just 1.
Lots of questions for you to answer Mikey.
Holly Hughes sitting in for Nancy Grace today… reporting on Joran…She was great telling it like it is…Jug was on and said Joran better watch his back lots of people are watching him (paraphasing).
The callers that called in are appauld along with Holly that Joran is not being arrested!!!
Aruba your island is sinking and sinking fast!!
Sat. night Beth will be on Nancy Grace show…
National Equirer 8/2005. You know sometimes they get it right. Eerily similar to Jorans confession:
Dutch teenager Joran van der Sloot is terrified he and his family will be murdered if he confesses all he knows about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
The National Enquirer can reveal that police on Aruba are investigating this theory, which centers on whether narcotics dealers supplied Joran with the drug ecstasy, helped him get rid of Natalee’s body — and told him he’d vanish forever if he didn’t keep his mouth shut.
“Joran’s statements have changed many times because he does not want police to find out who helped dispose of Natalee’s body,” said a source close to the case. “Police believe that people involved in getting rid of the body have threatened to murder Joran and his family if he ever names them.” …
As The National Enquirer reported last week, police theorize that Natalee died accidentally, possibly drowning after she fell and hit her head in a drug-induced stupor. Police also believe Joran confessed to his father that Natalee had taken ecstasy and when she died, Joran panicked and decided to get rid of the body. But he needed help — and knew where to find it.
“Joran is believed to be friends with a known ecstasy dealer in Aruba and police think that’s where he got the drug,” said the source.
“When Natalee died, Joran got in touch with the dealer. The theory is that the dealer had an incentive to dispose of her body so that police wouldn’t trace the drugs back to him. But the dealer made it clear to Joran that if he talked he’d disappear too.”
No bodies, no economy,beach must stay empty.
http://tinyurl.com/2flxg5
This is a better link to the original article that compared Joran’s vid to Deepak’s email.
One comment: May they all rot in a pit of vipers with Lucifer watching for eternity.
http://tinyurl.com/25knct
D’oh. This is an even newer one. Hodges believes NH died in a gang rape where Joran was controlling her by using a belt possibly (per “between the lines” interpretation of Deepak’s email). Compares that to the vid of Joran.
Well, after this, I think its time to start on the candaidates and get their take on this. Lets see if they can put their money where their mouth is, so to speak. If one of them has balls enough they will address this issue. Who knows maybe it will win them some votes. I have to ask if this were Chelsa , would Hilary just sit back and let Aruba do what they are doing? Hell no she wouldn’t she would have the entire CIA, FBI, and who ever else look into this and get answers!! There would be no procees to go through, she would just have it done. Im asking what makes Chelsa”s life more valuable than Natalee’s? Its time to start hammering our government officials and putting the pressure on and hit them hard with it. This is not over by no means, if I could afford to I would just hire the ( Hells Angels ) and have them over there for a week and we would have the answers and the ones accountable all in one swoop. But thats not the way to go, so we need to definately continue boycotting the island and more now that ever.
Daddy sloot is the mastermind behind this Ive said it before and I am saying it again, between him and his spawn of a son they have all the answers and details of what went down that night.
Boycott Aruba all the way………
J4N……..
#182 – Is there anyway to describe that differently than you did?
That’s not really necessary, imo.
THE FURY CONTINUES ON…
NANCY GRACE: JUG TWITTY 2.15.2008
“JORAN VANDERSLOOT IS A TICKING TIME BOMB, AND THERE ARE MANY
WHO FEEL THIS WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE
WITHOUT HIM.”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KCpo8Xd1WBc
You D MAN Jug…
Natalee was such a lucky girl
to have so many caring people
in her life… and a step-dad
like you.
All of her family members are highly articulate,
and CLASS ACTS!!!!
Much respect 4 U, and all of her family. -j4n
I am using Hilary and Chelsa as an example, to try and make a point, if you choose to write your govenment lay it on the line to them, ask what they would do if it were their child. This would be an awesome way out for Bush to leave his presidency if he would do something and step up, he would indeed be helping his fellow americans and one family seek justice for a wrong doing. It would be so nice to see a caring president step up and let his fellow man know he cares about all people. Help us here George W Bush, help this family bring their daughter home and find the truth!!
kjeane
i agree i hope something desperate happends .. even pauulus havin a fat heart attack.. bye bye daddy who is gonna cover his messes up
Keep writing folks..Congress, State Dept., Netherlands, …Address for Queen Beatrix:
KABINET DER KONINGIN
POSTBUS 20016
2500 EA ‘S-GRAVENHAGE
NETHERLANDS
A few days ago I sent letter to all State Governors asking them to support the boycott and reminding them that Aruba was not a safe place, particularly for Spring Break students and in fact any citizens. A link to all governors and their addresses plus a lot of other useful addresses is http://www.globalcomputing.com/GovernorsContent.htm
Also don’t forget LETTER TO THE EDITOR of your local papers.
Keep the heat turned up and BOYCOTT ARUBA
#183 MR. G
I HAVE A BROTHER IN LAW THATS IN THE HELLS ANGELS.. U MAY NOT HAVE A LONG WAIT.. I WOULDNT ASK HIM TO DO IT.. BUT IM SURE THERE WILL BE LOTS OF VOLUNTEERS .. THAT WILL DO IT FOR THE PLEASURE.. OF JUSTICE
Sounds like Aruba is the place for criminals to move to. Compliments of the Vandersloots and the Aruban government.
CAN WE ALL DO A LETTER CAMPAIGN TO THE WHITE HOUSE..
Aruban law is summarized in this case by a simple one-liner:
‘If you ain’t Dutch, you ain’t much’
right, VanderStratten ? Jacobs ?
189 KAYKAY
GOOD IDEA I WILL GET RIGHT ON IT .. HOPE ALOT OF OTHER READERS FOLLOW SUIT..
IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE IF ANY ONE FROM ARUBA OR THE NETHERLANDS HAS VISITED THIS ROOM.. AND THEIR INPUT ON WHAT HAPPENED.. AND WHATS THE ATTITUDE OF THE PEOPLE THERE… IS THERE AS MUCH ANGER THERE AS IN THE USA
Mr. G – I believe that’s a very good example. Imo…and i’ll type it again as I have before…1 or 2 phone calls from the right person in the USA to the right person in the Netherlands/Aruba and it’s over. Joran/other person(s) in the pokey and answers are given to the family.
1 or 2 and it’s done.
The circus music stops.
http://tinyurl.com/2jzkXw
as a chicago resident, i cant help but think of the poor families that lost people in the Northern Illinois University tragedy. note to next school shooter…if you want to kill yourself, i understand. but instead of shooting up a classroom of innocent young people at school to make yourself famous. there are other ways to make history.
COME TO PUERTO RICO
# 190 Katie,
I know, these men will get the answers and rather quickly and Im sure Aruban LE would hide under their painted rocks while the Angels do their own investgation. I would not ask them either but if they would choose to go and seek justice, they have my blessing. I have a dear friend who is retired from the angels, so to speak, and I know they would get justice right now. Thanks for sharing……..
So now it’s the drug dealers fault. I guess Joran and his father DO get their drugs from drug dealers, but it is what THEY did with them, isn’t it? Drugging, gang raping and murdering, nothing accidental here. Natalee Ann Holloway is dead at the hands of Joran, PVS, Kalpooooo brothers and the others who were there that night. All others involved in the cover-up, disposal of her body and the torture of Natalee’s family are just as guilty.
#175
No, YoYo, no blinders here. I linked all the information.
But see, here’s the thing. Joran didn’t call an ambulance or the police. Then he got rid of Natalee’s body. Therefore, it’s logical to assume he committed a crime that would show up on the body.
The only blinders are on those who defend Joran–
And on Aruban authorities who whine about the increasing boycott but take no
positive action toward justice to stop it.
Where is your proof for this statement?
“Both Joran and Natalee consumed drugs illegally before the trip.”
(credible witnesses only, please)
And even IF it were true, that has nothing to do with the night of May 29/early morning May 30.
delicous SPORTER ????????????
DELCIOUS SNORTER – more like it
joran likes cocaine
what i dont undertand is this.
why are the people of aruba upset ??
why ?
why now ?
why were you not upset months ago ?
didnt you see it then ??
all the lies ??
wasnt it obvious ??
or is it ??? that now you can blame the DELICIOUS SNORTER for the DECLINE in tourism?
i really want to know
thank you in advance
good question
why now
GRETA OTR / sub: Marth McCallum
# 1 JOSSY MANSUR
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TF4Ta9m9NAg
#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPCtAS4tnEA
……
BREAK
…..
THV ALABAMA INTERVIEW
NATTIE’S SWEET GRAM- MA MA (from ye olde archive of fall of 2006)
note: rough audio levels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF4Ta9m9NAg
…
BIG STORY / with John Gibson 2.15.2008
TACO PINHEAD & ROSIDASKANKOSAURUS
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RznNns4-MXQ
….
SOUNDBYTE OF THE DAY AWARD GOES TO: JUG TWITTY – NANCY GRACE SUB: “HOLLY”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KCpo8Xd1WBc
Interesting how they all get away with rape and murder, and yet look forward to getting a huge lawsuit payout. The Kalpoes and Sloots should feel very lucky they aren’t being hanged in the public square.
# 196 yoyo,
well thats the idea and we are trying to get there unless you know of a short cut?
117, Maggie,
Amen!!!!!! Thank you, God Bless you……..
We all know the truth and believe in justice.
God Speed Persistence!!!
j4n!!!!!
Invade Aruba now!
Oduber stated that Bush should stay out of their affairs. He would get help from his friend Chavez.
Drug trafficking.
Human slave trafficking.
Tax evasion.
Mafia.
Organized crime.
Violators of basic human rights.
Terrorist threat.
Aruba is now in the Axis of Evil. Arubagate.
The Netherlands in now in the Axis of Evil. HolandGate.
Since Aruba is a lawless country – invaded by mafia and corrupt politicians, we seek invasion to root the gangsters out of their nest.
Who is Rudy Croes protecting?
Why has Oduber not acted?
Why has Refunjol been immune from the light?
Why is the Queen Bea not demanding questions?
After the invasion, the people will be allowed to choose a just man finally.
Will the Netherlands get off their collective asses and make a change?
The Hague can prosecute Nazis but no no Sloot?
Come to Aruba – our politicians drug, rape and murder you.
One Nightmare Eiland.
Kudos to Bill O’Reilly who stated on national TV that ‘NO ONE SHOULD GO TO ARUBA UNTIL JORAN IS TRIED BY A JURY”
That should take out a few more tourists!!
Thanks Bill!
121, Sharon
We have Pieter & Patrick to Thank A MILLION TIMES OVER FOR WHAT THEY DID…. Just imagine if the Devries footage had been give to the ALE and all, and NEVER aired for the world to see. Imagine……….. All evidence has been covered up/disposed of/gotten rid of. if they did not do that then there would be evidence. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to Pieter & Patrick & SM the next victim of Joran and Co., may very well have been saved AND is in fact, SAFE & SOUND. God Bless you Pieter & Patrick and all of the SM!!!!!!!!
j4n!!!!!!
Joran heard your going out tonight to party, maybe you should keep and eye on your drinks and for that matter what may be in your next doobie doo. After all what comes around goes around. Still sleeping good?
Bill O’Reilly:
NO MORE ARUBA !!!
I Love It !
Does Aruba Realize How Many People Watch
***The Factor***
Bill & Geraldo Actually Told America
Do Not Go To Aruba Until They Do Something
About The Natalee Holloway Case !!!
Justice is not expensive in most parts of the world:
1. one 9mm cartridge……11c
2. one 30.06 cartridge……67c
3. one .223 cartridge……32c
4. one 5′ length 3/4″ sisal braid
5. whatever is handy.
It’s just bound to happen sooner or later. If I were that rapist, I’d open all my own beers and do my own cooking. One never knows.
122, Richard
This is an excellent letter. Beyond excellence. God Bless you many times over.
I hope that we may all read this. Let’s keep sending letters like this one.
Sadly, this crime and no crime, as Richard eloquently specified in his letter, will NEVER be solved in Aruba and there will NEVER be justice because they have gone to extraordinary lengths to protect the guilty. We have to follow in the footsteps of Richard, Pieter de Vries & Patrick, Scared Monkeys and all.
Richard, with your permission I would like to send your letter to the powers that be in the USA. It’s a perfect voice, a platform to launch the facts and inspire others to seek the truth and justice.
Joran, Paulus and the higher powers continue to drag everyone through hell.
j4n!!!!!!!!!
[...] some reason in the United States a jury finds the criminal and killer guilty … in Aruba, a 3 judge panel from Curacao manage to make a 180 degree opposite decision to not even arrest a suspect for [...]
::MonkeyTongue::
THE RAGE IS GROWING!
OREILLY & GERALDO TAKE OFF THE GLOVES ON ARUBA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odHQqq7oR7w
_—–> PRIME SUSPECT GOES INTO HIDING <———-
Bert de Rooij, the lawyer of the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that his client Joran van der Sloot is in hiding in the Netherlands and fears for his life. “He’s not hiding from the police, but from a nationwide kangaroo court. He has very good reasons to fear that if he goes out he won’t make it to the other side of the street.
____________________________________________
Well, there’s the only good news of the day!
-J4N
Yay, street shooting, lol, I meant skeet shooting, lol, Urine is the target, nice bobble head, easy to hit tho, lol……..
Bob, #215, lol, you forgot ( Priceless ) ,lol……
Awsome New Girl,
Thank you for that report…
u rock! Is there a source to name
on that report?
again ty
http://tinyurl.com/3ag9rq
Anita is worried about the sporter commiting suicide. Hum, Why worry, so it is written, so it shall be done.
Now on to the festivites, lol,lol….
LOL Joran, your the laughing stock of the world, how does it feel to be in your position? Your scum, and even lower than that if there was such a word, lol, can you feel the love yet?
Bill O’Rielly said it right tonight:
Joran Van Der Sloot’s motive to be with Natalee Holloway was to RAPE her.
And the Aruban (so-called) government CONDONES that fact.
As O’Reilly said during his broadcast: NO MORE TRAVEL TO ARUBA.
And anyone who DOES travel to Aruba and gets gang raped as part of the package, can look back and consider themselves as having been warned ahead of time. As harsh as that reads – You WERE warned. WARNED FOR 3 YEARS. What else is it going to take.
In My Best Friends Wedding Julia said she was worse than pond scum. She was the fungus that fed on the pond scum .That is what Joran is!
Maybe we should email the whitehouse and express ourselfs.
the president,email, president@whitehouse.gov
first lady,email. First.lady@whitehouse.gov
Bob,
Where do I make a donation to the “Bounty Fund”?
I will even make a donation for YOYOASS so that he will at least FEEL like he has done something useful.
Its about time the media did something good, good to hear, nuturer. This is not over at the least, its just begun…………..
_—–> PRIME SUSPECT GOES INTO HIDING <———-
Bert de Rooij, the lawyer of the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that his client Joran van der Sloot is in hiding in the Netherlands and fears for his life. “He’s not hiding from the police, but from a nationwide kangaroo court. He has very good reasons to fear that if he goes out he won’t make it to the other side of the street.
____________________________________________
Joran should be afraid! Very Afraid!! Continue to BOYCOTT Aruba & the Netherlands until there is “JUSTICE FOR NATALEE”!!!
Yay, Yay, Boycott Aruba, lol, finally, If they insist on a coverup, we shall cover them up with what they sow, and they shall reap the rewards, lol,lol……..To me its sad tho, we as americans have anticipated that the Aruban people would stand up and fight for what was right, but they have not, they have hid and coward down as to not make waves, helpless, like food in a spiders web. Where is your fight, why do you let this go on? Nothing is more powerful than everyone banning together for a root cause. Lives will be lost for sure, but is the out come of sucumbing worth the decision to stop fighting for what you know to be right and true? If your not ready to fight and die for your country Aruba, why are you there? Stand up for your country and fight back, you need justice on your island and trust with all nations, think about it……..
# 226, thank you Kelly, lol, there is a place lower than scum, and your so right, he is there and lower if we can find it,lol.
# 230 Bama Mom, your right on, another post was here a bit earlier with the same saying, and he had better watch his back lol, every sound he hears could be his last, who knows………
# 217, Bobby cutts got what was comming to him and the jury who said he was not guilty of agrravated murder was probably right and Im glad to see they did find him guilty of agrrivated murder on chloe, it may have been accidental on jessie but was not on the baby, thats a given.
Katie in Calif Hi
Aren’t the Hells Angeles an Internation Group or maybe some would like to fly over their and rent cycles to “motor” around the clubs to see the sights of the city (smile)
Suspect in Natalee Holloway case fears for life
Published: Friday 15 February 2008 08:06 UTC
Last updated: Friday 15 February 2008 15:13 UTC
Hilversum – Bert de Rooij, the lawyer of the main suspect in the Natalee Holloway case, has told Radio Netherlands Worldwide that his client Joran van der Sloot is in hiding in the Netherlands and fears for his life. “He’s not hiding from the police, but from a nationwide kangaroo court. He has very good reason to fear that, if he goes out, he won’t make it to the other side of the street.”
The lawyer was referring to the public response to a television show broadcast on Dutch television on 3 February, in which Joran van der Sloot revealed his part in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance in hidden camera footage. The two-hour programme was watched by seven million viewers, more than any Dutch TV programme this century. The undercover operation was the brainchild of crime reporter Peter R. de Vries.
Mr De Rooij said some of the things Mr Van der Sloot said during the programme couldn’t possibly be true. Referring to his client’s statement that he made a local call for help on the night Ms Holloway went missing, the lawyer pointed out: “The public telephone he said he called from can only be used for international calls.”
Interesting story! Guess Urine van der Slut may have reasons to be afraid, very afraid…
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
Sm, Im ok with your sight and have ultimate respect for it, but am i in a time zone when you do your updates that my posts get shot down? I have sent several in addition to what I have already tonight and they were mathmaticaly shot down, is this normal?
its 1:38 am here right now…….
Mr G.
…you don’t live on an island…U.S. or otherwise!
These guys know the currents. Your choice…go fishing…or take a flight off the island !
Maybe you like your dead toes eaten by sugar cane rats???!!!!
Aint easy living on an island. Go try!
Joran van der Sloot on coerced vacation in Germany…
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/3311587/_Joran_vreest_voor_z_n_leven__.html
Joran fears for his life
By John van den Heuvel and Bert Cottage
AMSTERDAM – Joran van der Sloot fears for his life. After his third arrest is prohibited by the court yesterday-evening, he can in our country no longer walk safe on the streets.
According to his lawyer Eindhoven mr B. De Rooij, Van der Sloot at his request hides himself. “He does not hide for the police, but for the kangaroo-court. He has serious reasons to believe that he he won’t make it to the other side of the street if we let him go,” said De Rooij yesterday.
Justice in Aruba still believes that there is sufficient reason to arrest Joran for a third time. But the court-commissioner and the justice-court rejected the arrest-request. The court sees a ‘personality-problem’ at Van der Sloot. “Our decision to come to an arrest warrant, was weighed,” said spokeswoman Dop Kruimel of the OM (Publ.Pros.Off.). “His confession contained sufficient leads, we believe. The judges, however, require more proof, even more so because it would be the third time.” ? ? Joran van der Sloots mobile phone yesterday virtually crashed because of the many messages. According to his lawyer, he is by telephone and through the Internet seriously threatened. According to acquaintances of Van der Sloot he would be hiding in a German holiday-park. ? ? The reopened investigation against Van der Sloot despite the arrest-prohibition is in full swing, as the OM yesterday made public. A team of 25 detectives in the Netherlands and Aruba investigates his statements about dumping Holloway in the waves. Also, new witnesses are being questioned. An teacher last week was heard several times about a phone he had found in 2006 in the sand. The unit contained a number of father Paul van der Sloot. According to the family, this is a phone from a brother of the main accused. Peter R. De Vries responded angry. “How do you explain this to the family?” he wonders. “I will try to explain the mother of Natalee the logic of this, but I doubt whether I succeed therein.”
Translation of the above article: Google transl. and me.
The strange questionmarks in the text are incompatibilities between different text-formats.
The public ministry of Aruba said the Sloots need to find some other place to stay and leave their home in Noord…it’s not just the weather down there that’s HOT!
Security camera’s have been placed around Joran’s grandparents home…it’s been said that he left there but maybe not…where else would he hide, unless his lawyers found a place and they are supplying him with food,etc.
Someone here said that Joran was going to the disco last night…if he’s hiding how could he go to the disco…unless he’s surrounded by police protection…and I doubt if they want to take that on, why should they!
Papa VD Slime is the real head of the snake in this crime and coverup. Take him out, then watch Urine, the Kowpoos, and the slimey authorities who have covered up start crapping their pants.
Just follow the smell and the real trail will appear.
There never has been and never will be an honest investigation of this case otherwise. Too many slimeballs and too much corruption going on there at all levels.
Boycott Aruba as the true crime pit that it is.
I think we know without even apply too much brain power that Joran called Paulus…he knows how sneaky his father is and how he can get away with anything…
When Joran said he told Patrick what he wanted to hear, I think the only thing being referred to there is Patrick asked for a name, so Joran gave him Daury…not the entire tape..
Prosecutor says they believe Joran could possibly have a very severe personality disorder…no kidding…it’s even worse than serious…
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS HORSE’S A$$…
http://tinyurl.com/2gXjsq
If that doesn’t motivate ya
nothin’ will, huh?
Good morning fellow Monkeys. I havent posted lately, but I never miss a day here. Sometimes when I begin a post the anger…the dispair…the disbelief…the hatred just overcomes me and I can not find the words to express how I feel. Merely sitting as I read and shaking my head and thinking “What fools they are in Aruba. They destroy their island….their reputation….their future…for a lower than life sociopathic murderer and his perverted father.”
How does it feel Anita? How does it feel knowing that literally millons of people around the world now know that without a doubt your “sweet sporter” is an unfeeling…subhuman…self centered…murdering….cold hearted rapist? From his mouth to God’s ear. How does it feel as a mother knowing you have contributed to the behavior of such a sorry excuse for a human being by sitting by and condoning his past behavior…by turning a blind eye to his past actions and those of his father…how does it feel to be judged worldwide as an unfit mother and enabler to a murderer?
Paulus…how does it feel knowing the entire world now looks at you and knows you are a perverted old man? That the world knows about your perversions and your approval of those of your sporter son. Your delicious sporter has now left no doubt in the minds of thinking people around the world. You are a pariah….a bottom feeder….and unworthy of the title “father”….you will forever be known now as merely the “donor” of the seed that spawned a muderous rapist…one that has done this “20 times” in the past as you looked away and took joy in his accomplishments. How does it feel Paulus, knowing the name Van Der Sloot will always be associated with cold blooded murder and deception? Do you even feel the shame?
Joran….how does it feel now? Knowing that an entire world of good, compassionate and caring people now look down on you for the scum you are….that they know you for the murderer you are….for the black hearted rapist you are…that their compassion will not be extended to you….that the vast majority believe you are no longer worthy of breathing the same air as the rest of us….that the humantiy of the world would be better off if you no longer walked among them? How does it feel now sporter? Hiding now in fear among your own people….in your families homeland…..knowing your name will always be whispered among the most horrid of killers. Tell us Joran..how does it feel now sporter? Knowing the world has heard your icey description of how you took the life of a beautiful, wonderful young woman with so much to contribute to humanity and you snuffed it out without remorse…without thought…and dumped her body like so much trash?
Joran…the world knows now….from your mouth to God’s ear….He knows….and He will be the ultimate judge. How does it feel now sporter?
There is not a lake in hell deep or firey enough for you or those that have taken part in this horrible travesty of murder and justice. Aruba…may you suffer the distain of the world until you bring right…and justice to your pitiful island.
well, i think karen jansen is guilty for aiding paulus and joran. she prostponed his arrest which gave paulus time to get rid of evidence. but everyone is also aware judge smid, dennis jacobs and van stratten were the major players in the cover-up too.
UNBELIEVEABLE!!!
Aruba, people take to the streets. Protest this injustice against Natalee and her family.
Joran, there is no place large enough for you to hide. The world knows you as GUILTY IN CRIMES AGAINST NATALEE. I am sure your parents are very proud of you, Joran, you devil spawn of Anita and Paulis. Joran, you are dispised by so many. How does it feel? You think you got away with it….no way Jose. The world will be your judge since Aruba will not press charges against you by using your own words, your own admission of guilt. Think you pulled this off? Not by a long shot.
PS There should be a full investigation into all parties involved in the police dept and justice department. After all, Van der Straaten is Joran’s godfather (first police chief). Go back to the beginning, Aruba.
Yes to what 246 said only 10 times worse !!!
#245…Carpe…I watched that video many times and I certainly agree….isn’t that expression something else, we got rid of her and I’m getting a big fat check, as Joran said things couldn’t of worked out any better….Oh yea, the whole is hating you and what you did, along with your father…hell has already begun…
nite all, it sleep time for me, have fun and god bless you all and keep the natalee faith, Joran is guilty and his Father as well, I will take that to the grave with me………niters…
lol, i gotta laugh before i go to bed here, hehe, Joran has to whack off from now on, no little girls for him lol,lol, well unles is daddy feels sorry for him and helps, lol, what a sporter, mooooooohahhhhhhh loloololllooolloololololol, laters, im off to sleep………. God I needed that………niters…..sic puppy, sic puppy, sic, puppy, sic puppy, lol,lol…….
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# 252 Mr. G
Sleep time? Where do you live (or are you stationed maybe)? The Philippines or somewhere else in Asia? Interesting!
LOL, you just can’t make this stuff up. I promise. While just making breakfast, got a call from friends who live about 9 miles from my house. They returned Friday night from a 5 day “vacation” in Aruba that was booked last fall and arrived back in JFK last night. Bill just wanted to tell us they were home, and gave me a quick rundown of the trip. I immediately asked about whether he noted anything special regarding the Natalee affair (posters, discussion, anything) since I read and post here on SM almost everyday. Bill said the weather was great, BUT: LOL (I just love this!!!!!), the hotel was about 1/2 empty, the beautiful white sand beach was like 85% EMPTY. Restaurants were EMPTY, and there were more cabs lined up with NO PASSENGERS than you could want. The few casino’s they went into at night were starving, and the shops in town were mostly deserted. He said the local people had an eyes to the floor, beaten down look, and this trip was a bummer.
I filled him in quickly about the latest stuff on Natalee, but he’s not totally into that. He DID however state that’s it’s rather obvious that the BOYCOTT that I keep harping on apparantly is definetly a HUGE PROBLEM for Aruba. No shit sherlock, can’t wait to see a few photos of empty beaches.
THE BOYCOTT IS WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hague prosecute Nazis
No no Sloot?
Hey Ed, think we ough’ta boycott…when your post first appeared I thought my computer screen was rolling…
Arubans you need to stand up and be heard, demand justice, it’s your island, it’s your economy…
Thank u EURobert!
It is good people like you, De Vries, Pat Van der Eem… that gives me faith there will one
day be a satisfactory ending to all this gosh awful crap Van der sloot…
There are good people working this tragedy from all angles,multiple levels, and
in many different countries.
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Why is Joran allowed to country hop like that… with an ongoing investigation???
I mean, they released FRANKENSTEIN WITH THE
EDDIE MUNSTER STRAP ON HAIR HELMET
on strict conditions to go to college & stay the hell out of trouble. If he country hops, isn’t he a flight risk?
The USA would nail his styrofoam gonads to the floorboards with a Stanley Nail Gun
if he tried that here.
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It doesn’t seem right that he’s allowed to country skip like that… regardless of his fear of being toe tagged. -j4n
#240 EURobert Many thanks for the interesting update and the translation. At least they are still working on the case…I hope they are starting with Karin Janssen and then working their way down to VanderStraaten and then on to #19 M..whatever it is ..home of the Paulus the Pervert.
Please if you can keep giving us the news..if this case goes on much longer I think I need to learn to speak Dutch!
Have a good day.
#246 Frank You said it all so eloquently. If it weren’t such a horrible topic I’s say poetically. Please post again.
http://tinyurl.com/36rbue
OK, Monkeys, here is some more Boycott information. The names below are a partial list of businesses who are currently thriving on the miserable little island of Aruba. These are names that we all recognize. Perhaps we need to be mindful of where we spend our money, here at home, until there is a resolution to Natalee Holloway’s disappearance.
Radio Shack, Heineken, Benetton, Fendi, Gucci, Sears, Servistar, True Value, Cartier, Terminix, Hooters, Tony Rama, Ernst and Young, Nautica, Athlete’s Foot, Red Sail Sports, Hugo Boss, Polo Ralph Lauren, Salvatore Ferragamo, Nike, Mango, Hyatt, Radisson, Marriott, Occidental, Westin, Holiday Inn, and La Quinta.
That picture of Joran from the video would be a great thing to take to the upcoming travel shows…it certainly says a lot…
Referring to #256. What a shame for the innocent Aruban people. Apparently the corrupt Aruban government cares more for the Van der Sloots than their own people. Joran probably needs to hide now. Someone will kill him before this is over with. When this happens, watch the Aruban government go to work to arrest and convict Joran’s killer. What a shame and tragedy for the Holloway family and for the innocent citizens on the island.
brie on February 16th, 2008 9:11 am
#245…Carpe…I watched that video many times and I certainly agree….isn’t that expression something else
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HECK YEAH!
… I couldn’t believe a human could be so low,
if Patrick & Peter hadn’t captured it live and
in living color for us, I just couldn’t believe it.
Joran is like the Chronic Bubonic, man.
U KNOW U R A LOWLIFE, when Joe Tacopina ditches
your hiney, and won’t appear on TV.
Joe, please… give it up.
I hate your defense lawyer ways… but I do realize it is your job. DROP JORAN LIKE A
ROCK. run while you can. He’s dropped your a$$
in oil… and he’ll do it again… and again…
and again… he has an established pattern.
# 259 Carpe (you are doing a lot of hard work yourself as well… Much more than I do!) and #260 Kayjay
Believe me: you all have a lot more friends on this side of the globe than just me and some other Dutchies that post on SM!
Wonder why Joran picked Germany…maybe he is just going to disappear…is he now wearing some kind of a disguise…growing longer hair, growing a full beard and mustache…I know Joran speaks several languages but I don’t think German is one of them…think they ever heard of him there, maybe he is in some small town…
I guess he doesn’t have restrictions on him and can travel anywhere he wants to but I think it might be hard to apply for citizenship anywhere with the investigation going on…his lawyers know of course where he is…
Maybe he will drink too much German beer and begin talking again…
Brie # 268
Sorry to say Brie but German is one of the four or five languages that is part of the basic mid-school teachings in the NL’s (and I’ld guess on Aruban schools as well). Remember we’re neighbours of the Germans!
Oh my…had a nice posting deleted because I couldnt add. Oh well.
Thank you kayjay. I used to post angry notes here..but anger escapes me now. I cannot associate with the emotions I now have over all of the horrible injustice done to Natalee and her family…and to all of good and caring humanity by these “people”…and I use the term with apologies to real people. Joran and his protectors arent worthy of my anger….they are beneath anger….beneath thought….beneath hatred…beneath contempt….the emotions I feel towards them are beyond description and beyond font or words. Just as I feel nothing but disgust when I step in a steaming pile left in my yard by a cur dog….I feel nothing but abject disgust for the subhuman detritous that continues to hurt Natalee’s family…that continue to trash her golden memory…that continue to snub their collective noses at justice and the rest of the world….for they are lower than anything I have ever stepped in….and they will deserve the harshest judgement of a just and good God.
Joran…I vomit bile on you and your father and those that choose to protect your lying…murderous…raping self.
Bob,
Did you get my email about NY?
Joran speaks Dutch, English, French, Portugese, Spanish and Papiamento. Schools in Aruba require students to learn English, Spanish and French, and Portugese to a lesser degree. Maybe he’ll head for the Straights of Gibraltar…I doubt if Joran will be back, that’s maybe the last we’ve seen of him.
#202 – You say he’s a sociopath/psychopath. But when his confession comes out and did not include rape/ghb…whoaaaa, he had to have raped/drugged/etc since a “normal” person would’ve called 911. Do you not see the fallacy in that?
Since you are so stuck on the rape/ghb deal(quite bizzare actually. it’s as if his confession was not good enough because the rape/ghb mantra wasn’t included) then I am to assume you are in agreement with these judges that Joran’s statements were inconsistent with other evidence and insufficient to hold him. That’s what they said – what you are saying is exactly the same thing.
And the proof of my statement is all over the internet. You’ve seen the pictures – there are many.
Mark my words, Joran Van Der Sloot will not make it through the end of 2008.
It won’t be vigilante justice. Think about it, based on his “confession” and where things lie today, who benefits most from Joran being dead?
Paulus
Van Der Stratten
Odubar
Janssen
Smit
Vocking
Mos
Van Croimvert
Guido
Kalpoes
The Gottenboes
Lorenzo Van Rijn
The rock painters
All government actors in Aruba/Curacao that aided the cover-up
Posner
AHATA
Drug Dealers in Aruba
Money Launderers in Aruba
Human Traffickers in Aruba
You see, at this point in time, vigilantes aren’t Joran’s concern….a professional hit job is.
Joran — beware of those who are closest to you. You have shown you can’t keep quiet. They will keep you quiet now that you have spilled the beans and the “CONFLICTED” Aruban judges have once again covered for you. Too many people have too much to lose. You are expendable and now is the perfect time. Your death will be blamed on vigilantes….but we know better – the same people that took and assisted with Natalees death will now take yours.
Bon voyage!
MD
Good thing for criminals from Aruba and the Netherlands to remember is that if THEY lie and lie and lie, then they can get dispensation for anything they want to do. This absolutely makes
me furious…I have made a monthly donation to Equusearch for the ongoing search for Natalee, and I don’t know anything else I can do. I cannot imagine how Natalee’s family must feel. My prayers are sent for some sort of healing for them.
#268…EURobert…those were the only languages I could find listed required by Aruban schools…but Joran grew up in Rotterdam so maybe he learned German there..or perhaps the information I read has not been updated and therefore German is required…thank you for your help, as always
So Joran is in a place where he can communicate, I hope Germany knows about what is happening and who Joran is….
We
# 274 MD
I just mentioned on the forum that the duthc secret service is rumored to have had a hand in the killing of a famous dutch politician some years ago (Pim Fortuyn).
If the NH-case is keep costing Aruba millions of dollars tourism-money a year maybe Joran should become afraid of the AIVD (dutch secret service); you know, secret services can be very ‘pragmatic’ in cases like these…
YoYo,, don’t try to tell me why or what I believe.. There is reliable coroboration)Beth) for the plate number being written down of Deepak’s car at the Sloots and the number being given out.. There is also coroboration for the time Beth arrived in Aruba. I also know why 3 men go out at closing time to a bar to move in on an intoxicated girl. It has nothing to do with leaving them on the beach by a sociopath to look at stars, because he has no condoms, so another sociopath can come along and harm her.
Just like Mr. Levine tried to tell us the beach patrol was up and down the beach that night every 25 minutes so they would’ve seen this loading a body or whatever etc.. by the same token if they were up and down the beach that night every 25 minutes.. they would’ve seen Joran walking up and down the beach with Natalee, Natalee sitting alone..Natalee walking alone? Joran being picked up..never happened.
Joran has a personality disorder? Oh no..he’s a delicious sporter who gives his mom 3 thick kisses, doesn’t drink, smoke, do drugs, makes straight A’s.. good student and as Renfro says a role model for the younger students ..lol It would be my nightmare for my daughter to meet.
yoyo…I have to say this and then I will go back to being a quiet observer. You have constantly and continue to twist words and conditions to suit your defense of what is so obvious to the world. Your selective ommission of expert testimony as to Jorans state of “mind” and egotistical ways and facts suit only yourself and your own motives. Your motives, however, escape me. Perhaps they are only to try and confuse issues and facts with half truths and conjecture, your existence here is questionable to say the least.
Honestly, I believe you have made yourself and your opinions insignificant in the light of the truth. Your “arguments” hold no weight…..your facts are as twisted as your logic….and your reasoning has cast doubt on your abilities to see beyond the fog you have cast before you.
However, you are invited to continue….and to continue to delve into the realm of fantasy as it feeds your own purposes…..whatever they may be. You only expose yourself to the ridicule of others….as you wish.
Notice how Joran not only “neglected” to call police, he specifically said to “Daury” : “No, No , DON’T call police.”
“J4N” #271
no email from you. Heard from Richard & Hotshot last wk. Pls lv. msg.
I remember, shortly after Natalee disappeared, a news story saying that she had been found dead and the parents were going to the scene. I then went on vacation thinking how careful we needed to be with our girls. Two weeks later I came back and Beth and Dave were still looking for Natalee! It is now almost three years and Beth and Dave are still looking for Natalee. Where are those people who “announced” that Natalee had been found dead? So many, many people know the truth, can’t one come forward and do the right thing? Didn’t one courageous person “save” some evidence or photos of the crime scene? Come forward now and tell it all.
Yoyo = AHAHTA Shill
He is on this board to obfiscate the truth. You will note Yoyo went pretty quiet while all the Devries stuff was playing out…now he returns in full force once the conflicted Aruban/Curacao judges come forth with their ruling to protect Joran.
If YY isn’t an AHATA shill, he has a financial interest in how this case plays out (perhaps owns a few condo’s and isn’t liking that they aren’t worth much). Regardless, no one can defend Joran’s most recent display and admission to involvement unless they have a financial interest.
These are the same folks that ultimately will get rid of Joran by the end of ’08. He is damaging people’s way of living and net worths. Time to remove him and erase Aruba’s problems.
MD
#274 minnesota
what makes you so sure? xplain.. thats wishful thinking for all of us..
MARK
274
U HAVE A POINT! HE HAS A BIG MOUTH… THOSE IN CORRUPT POWER KNOWS IT TOO.. HE MAY TALK AGAIN AND EXPOSE THINGS THEY WANT KEPT QUIET.. HOW NICE IF HE WAS TO BE TAKEN OFF THIS EARTH.. WAHHHHH ANITA..
BRIE # 268
please xplain.. is joran going to germany. can you tell me where u got the info.. did i miss smething.. desperately waiting for your reply
Minn Dad,
You are being TOO kind to YOYOASS! He has no morals the same as the trash that killed Natalee. Losing money on an investment is NO excuse. Anyway I feel that Paulus needs to bite the dust also. I believe he was involved up to his sweaty ugly neck.
Where is Joran hiding?….
Joran van der Sloot is in Drachten (The Netherlands)…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqq-WrkDRwk
The people of Aruba don’t need to pay anymore for what happened to Natalee. The people involved in her death and cover-up will pay heavily, and perhaps not in a court of law. You have to understand the laws of the universe to know that.
Joran? What parent who watched the tape would let their child associate with him?
#286 Katie….read post #240, that’s where I found it.
#288 or anyone:
Would be great to know what the Dutch people are saying in the video. Eubert can you advise?
Boy, I bet the neighbors of Joran’s grandparents weren’t too thrilled about him staying with them…it looked like he came out on the balcony facing the courtyard…probably to smoke a joint…
Suisse 71 (#216) … Thanks for the compliments. A year ago and more, I used to post here the letters I would send off to various parties.
It seemed to irritate the “hate sites” no end; they posted derogatory remarks about those of us who took part in the Boston protest against Aruba Tourism Authority, and got in a few digs about me.
Not that I cared one way or another.
But anyway, that one letter was to Hero Brinkman.
JusticeforNatalee posted his e-mail address here; if I get any response, I’ll let you know.
Remember, folks, the Boston demonstration, for which we have a permit, is only about a week or so away. Write to JusticeforNatalee@gmail.com for more information. And if you come across news about Aruba Tourism Authority sponsoring or taking part in a tourist promotion event in this country, please forward the information on.
Stand up for Natalee! Tell the ATA your views. No justice for Natalee … no tourism for Aruba.
I think the f word was used quite a bit in that video…hopefully EURobert can translate for us…
If Joran has gone to Germany he won’t get any police protection there…but you can probably count on the fact he’ll get into some kind of trouble.
Why doesn’t his parents put him a mental institution…is it because they could find the answers and Paulus obviously doesn’t want that…
Well I gotta say urin is a lot cooler than his dad, urin went on with his day as if nothing happened but when Beth confronted papa sweatalot he GUSHED !!!
I think some one should confront papa and see if he sweats again
“Tacky-pina”, JVDS’ attorney is about as pitiful as they come. If it were his daughter I wonder how he’d be acting. He mentioned that he knews w/o a doubt the JDVS is innocent then I’d like for him to use that same crytal ball and tell us where Natalee is located at this time.
It’s rather intriguing that the majority of all who have made an observation in this matter came up with precisely what was uttered whilst JDVS was making his confession.
Additionally, any one who watched JVDS’ facial expressions, eye movement, his bodily gestures, and the focus with which he spoke of how he got rid of Natalee it’s rather simple to see he’s reliving the actual night of her disappearance right there riding in the car and confessing.
Smoking weed does not alter one’s mind in that manner to make up such lies therefore he spoke the actual occurance of the night of Natalee’s disappearance. Drinking maybe, but not weed.
His father is the one who helped dispose of the body. I have no doubt. Note PVDS’ actions=guilty.
I donot see how those two JDVS & PDVS even sleep at night. They must have no soul, no conscience.
The Mother I do believe realizes the truth.
#274 Minnesota Dad… So true…
Joran you are a liability now. Costing Aruba’s corrupted infested higher ups trouble. They are weary of you and now will throw you to the lions eating their own cub!!!!
You are being watched…
Just for the heck of it, and to try to motivate myself to get back in the letter-writing mode, here’s something I did on Jan. 4, 2006. I think I sent it to one of the Aruban papers; no idea if it ever was used, or read. I rather doubt it.
But perhaps it is more relevant now than ever:
An Open Letter To The Wife Of Paulus Van Der Sloot And The Mother Of Joran
So far, you are the cool one. Your vapid smile has been seen on TV, but otherwise you have drawn little notice. Indeed, I cannot even remember your name.
Do you enjoy your anonymity, seeing in it a refuge from the hate and contempt directed at the rest of your family members? When you lie in bed at night, what do you think of? Good times in the past? Or do you sense the tension, the silent acknowledgement of guilt, the fog of amorality gone bad that even you must recognize by now?
“Oh, Joran is such a good boy….” The statement that every mother might be expected to say. I’m sure that the Aruba government would like your photo to be on the front page of every newspaper, dutifully preparing his favorite food in a congenial household meal.
But at night, do you ever think of that night? Of muted, half-conscious cries and struggles by the beach? Of brutal force? What kinds of thoughts go through your mind? Do you ever trade places with the other mother in this saga, or do you close your eyes and heart and thoughts? “Oh, Joran is such a good boy ….”
My friend once told me that when your husband was going in for questioning, he once turned to you in the presence of the TV cameras and growled, “GET IN HERE!” as though you were a trained dog behaving badly. Is that indeed how you see yourself?
Or do you fear what might happen to you? Is survival your only concern? Do you know that you too might go missing, at the behest of your own family? Do you look at them and see the knowledge of murder? No doubt you dare not talk with them about the looks that you can sometimes see in their eyes.
What future do you see? Will you deny your knowledge for the rest of your life, hoping to pass quiet days in a house darkened to keep off the Caribbean heat? Do you think that refusing to speak out will keep the nightmares at bay? Or do you have a needle, a bottle, or something else to dull the senses and keep the ghosts at bay? Not only the ghosts of what has happened, but the ghosts of what could have been — for you must know that only criminals and Aruba government officials now tolerate the van der Sloots.
And when your days are ending, if you are allowed to live out a natural lifespan, what visions will you see at the end, and struggle to deny? Will you run from the truth your whole life? And when your family are rotting in prison, should that come to pass … do you think that anyone will heed your cries, or care for you?
If you do not speak out, you will be remembered as the handmaiden of evil. Shutting your eyes to the last … “Oh, Joran is such a good boy ….” It will not redeem you.
This 1916 poem, “The Fence,” by Carl Sandburg is worth your reading and thining about. For we all have metaphorical fences in life … but yours is not destined to last.
“Now the stone house on the lake front is finished and the workmen are beginning the fence.
The palings are made of iron bars with steel points that can stab the life out of any man who falls on them.
As a fence, it is a masterpiece, and will shut off all the rabble and all vagabonds and hungry men and all wandering children looking for a place to play.
Passing through the bars and over the steel points will go nothing except Death and the Rain and To-morrow.”
Let’s take another view and play Devil’s Advocate:
If they charge Joran with murder and it goes to trial, his defense will be that drugs and sex are more than easy and available on Aruba. Its what all the kids do who go there! Instead of the case being about one girl and her hooking up with the wrong guy, the entire island will be put on trial as being the Free Sex and Drugs Zone.
Its the only defense.
If Joran slipped Natalee a “date rape drug” why didn’t he bring along his friends to also have sex with her?
There is much more to this case and if they charge Joran with murder, we’ll see the whole ugly mess.
That’s the real reason why he will NOT/NEVER be charged with murder. His defense team will pull in all the drug dealers to testify.
#246 Frank… PERFECT… very elloquently said… you painted a verbal portrait of all of them …
And I thank you
)
I loathe when some of these panel attorneys say this case will never be solved… THAT IS SO UNTRUE…
The foundation in Aruba’s good ol’ boy corrupt higher ups has a major fault line in it and it is only a matter of time before the earth quake hits them and there will be no where to run!!!
I suppose JVDS will have a European Union passport which he can use to go anywhere he likes within the EU, but if the justice department had any sense they would have made him hand it over so he could not flea too far….but of course we know they don’t have any sense, so he probably can go anywhere he likes provided he has the money! What is the “snorter” living on? Welfare I suppose.
Any Germans posting here? Best get the word out to your friends and relatives the “persona non grata” is about to invade your borders!
# 291 Scarlett
The kids in that video shout something like “He’s there.” and “I got him (on video).” But…. That video is from februari 4, around the time the PRdeVries-show was aired. It was thought that Joran was hiding in a town called Drachten then but he probably wasn’t; it turned out that a guy named JoHan lives in that apartment-building. If I’m correct Joran was at his grandma’s place.
According to the Telegraaf-article (see # 240) Joran now is hiding in Germany in a vacation-park (or holiday as you call it?).
Should have said anywhere he likes within the EU and beyond where he doesn’t need a visa, or where they don’t care who they issue visas to.
Joran is hiding out…. what happened tough guy… come on now what happened you slept good the first night after you murdered Natalee…
Come up to the plate sporter… you can handle it…does it hurt yet??????????
YoYo,
Don’t misquote me. You seem to be combining posts and just writing whatever gibberish you want to.
By the way, your screen name is highly appropriate.
And let’s face it, the only illogic here is someone stupid enough to promote Joran’s innocence.
It’s obvious you are very worried about the boycott.
Well, guess what, it’s only begun.
Last night, Bill O’Reilly told millions to BOYCOTT ARUBA.
Now go tell all the tourism hacks that the best PR is JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.
I am through with “debating” with you.
I am very busy right now planning for Boston. Every hear of it?
B-O-S-T-O-N
I bet you have, as it is a prime market for Aruba Tourism.
Toodles!
The following cruiselines currently have scheduled stops on the miserable island of Aruba, during the next six months. During the period of time that US citizens disembark in the port of Oranjestad, they could be subjected to theft, kidnapping, drugging, rape, and murder. The corrupt legal system in Aruba does not protect American citizens. Please do not support these cruiselines until the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is resolved.
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Kalpoe’s you are not off the hook the world is still watching you two … You know you raped Natalee… and are part of the murder crime!!
You can keep quiet but we all know where you live and we will in the end get the real story on what happened.
#178 Yo Yo Muffin… Ok I understand that theory but whay are the Aruban officials calling all the shots…and protecting Joran….
The drug ecstacy dealer is not trying to protect Joran but all the other higher ups are so something does not add up in this theory…that Joran and parents are worried they might be knocked off.
HEY U GUYS
I KNOW THIS MAY SEEM KINDA LONG BUT IT IS VERY INTERESTING .. PLEASE TAKE TIME TO READ IT AND GIVE ME INPUT.. THIS WAS AT GRETA WIRE
Comment by Rhonda
February 15th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I want to comment on something that has been bothering me since the moment it was reported that Natalie Holloway was missing. The evening that the story came on Fox News – and I’m almost positive that it was on Greta’s show, during the talk of the commentator, I was reading the words that are printed at the bottom of the screen (I don’t know what you call it but it’s the news that flashes across the screen 24/7).. During the broadcast, it was printed on the bottom of the screen something to the effect that Joran Vandersloot confessed to her death by accident. I read it and then read it again and then it changed…
Let me explain…. The news that flashes at the bottom of the screen will go through a cycle. Once however many news headings appear, the cycle begins again. In the case with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, if I remember correctly, her ‘accident’ statement flashed by maybe twice – meaning two cycles. After that, the next reports at the bottom of the screen had to do with her disappearance again and that was the last time that it mentioned Joran’s confession of her accident.
My first thought was that someone within the Aruban government spoke too soon and was told to shut up. Then it was as though he/she never said anything and it never happened. I sent an e-mail around that time to Fox to question it but never received an answer. Unfortunately, that was nearly 3 years ago and I can’t recall the exact language or the exact number of times it cycled. Having said that, I will never forget the meaning because I’ve thought about it repeatedly for nearly 3 years.
Another consideration that I’ve had and while I hate to use a stereotypical description, I wasn’t completely surprised to see this happen, that is, the announcement and then the disappearance of the announcement as though it never happened. Several years ago I worked for a Dutch company and someone within the company made a press/customer release regarding a part of the business that was sold. The employee was not supposed to make the release at the time and it was removed and treated as though it never happened. It absolutely disappeared. If a customer called to inquire about what they read they were told that it didn’t exist. It was just as bizarre only a young girl’s life wasn’t at stake and a family wasn’t tortured.
After Natalee’s father’s book was published a year or so ago, I sent a letter to him with these same concerns but never heard a response. Now when Joran is video taped discussing of how he watched her collapse, have a seizure and possible die, I felt compelled to bring this up again. I don’t know if anyone else recalls seeing the first reports and if so, if they ever wondered why within less than around 5 minutes the news completely changed and disappeared. I’ve also wondered if there were ever any tapes saved of the print that cycled that evening.
Furthermore, it makes more and more sense now when Joran talks about Natalee having seizures, given the fact that her family was questioned about her health and her potential for seizures. The story never changed since the first hour – it was only erased.
the german government can boot him out. maybe they need to be informed of who has crossed the border?
I took a little time to google key words with Aruba in it and I am amazed how many domain names registered as anti-aruba sites.
The boycott is rolling and with the internet to help all will know what a stinkin nasty corrupt little island let a killer and his dad loose.
THIS WAS LEFT ON GRETA WIRE
THOUGHT YOU MAY ENJOY IT.. ITS VERY INTERESTING… DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT THIS…
Comment by Rhonda
February 15th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I want to comment on something that has been bothering me since the moment it was reported that Natalie Holloway was missing. The evening that the story came on Fox News – and I’m almost positive that it was on Greta’s show, during the talk of the commentator, I was reading the words that are printed at the bottom of the screen (I don’t know what you call it but it’s the news that flashes across the screen 24/7).. During the broadcast, it was printed on the bottom of the screen something to the effect that Joran Vandersloot confessed to her death by accident. I read it and then read it again and then it changed…
Let me explain…. The news that flashes at the bottom of the screen will go through a cycle. Once however many news headings appear, the cycle begins again. In the case with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, if I remember correctly, her ‘accident’ statement flashed by maybe twice – meaning two cycles. After that, the next reports at the bottom of the screen had to do with her disappearance again and that was the last time that it mentioned Joran’s confession of her accident.
My first thought was that someone within the Aruban government spoke too soon and was told to shut up. Then it was as though he/she never said anything and it never happened. I sent an e-mail around that time to Fox to question it but never received an answer. Unfortunately, that was nearly 3 years ago and I can’t recall the exact language or the exact number of times it cycled. Having said that, I will never forget the meaning because I’ve thought about it repeatedly for nearly 3 years.
Another consideration that I’ve had and while I hate to use a stereotypical description, I wasn’t completely surprised to see this happen, that is, the announcement and then the disappearance of the announcement as though it never happened. Several years ago I worked for a Dutch company and someone within the company made a press/customer release regarding a part of the business that was sold. The employee was not supposed to make the release at the time and it was removed and treated as though it never happened. It absolutely disappeared. If a customer called to inquire about what they read they were told that it didn’t exist. It was just as bizarre only a young girl’s life wasn’t at stake and a family wasn’t tortured.
After Natalee’s father’s book was published a year or so ago, I sent a letter to him with these same concerns but never heard a response. Now when Joran is video taped discussing of how he watched her collapse, have a seizure and possible die, I felt compelled to bring this up again. I don’t know if anyone else recalls seeing the first reports and if so, if they ever wondered why within less than around 5 minutes the news completely changed and disappeared. I’ve also wondered if there were ever any tapes saved of the print that cycled that evening.
Furthermore, it makes more and more sense now when Joran talks about Natalee having seizures, given the fact that her family was questioned about her health and her potential for seizures. The story never changed since the first hour – it was only erased.
I love it after almost three years all of the American media have realized how corrupt Aruba is…
Aruba your tourism is going going gone from America:
Bill O’Rielly said it right tonight:
Joran Van Der Sloot’s motive to be with Natalee Holloway was to RAPE her.
And the Aruban (so-called) government CONDONES that fact.
As O’Reilly said during his broadcast: NO MORE TRAVEL TO ARUBA.
The email address for Aruba Travel (ATA) Public Relations is ata.pr@aruba.com. I think that they need to receive hundreds of emails asking why they are protecting Urine van der Sloot.
THESE ARE THE ABSOLUTE STUPIDEST PEOPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN.
I AM NOW WATCHING IN UTTER, MORBID FASCINATION TO SEE HOW MANY MORE 10′S OF MILLIONS OF TOURIST DOLLARS (WILL IT REACH $50 MILLION? $100 MILLION?) THEY ARE WILLING TO THROW OUT THE WINDOW FOR AZZHOLE JORAN.
WHAT YOU ARE NOW WITNESSING WILL GO DOWN IN THE HISTORY BOOKS AS “HOW A HANDFUL OF CORRUPT AND CRIMINAL OFFICIALS COMPLETELY RUINED A COUNTRY’S ECONOMY — FOR THE SAKE OF AN OBVIOUS AND
S-E-L-F–C-O-N-F-E-S-S-E-D SOCIOPATH.”
ARUBA’S GOING DOWN IN FLAMES AS THE WORLD WATCHES, FOR THE SAKE OF THIS PREDATORY MANIAC.
AND WHY IS THE NETHERLANDS SHELTERING THIS CRIMINAL, WHO ADMITTED — ON TAPE — TO VARIOUS FELONIOUS ACTS?
#31 Amsterdam…. I know enough about the Aruban system to know they never will pursue justice for Natalee Holloway… Wake up Amsterdam and get your head out of the sand. Some dog might walk by and rain on you!!!
AFTER THESE CORRUPT, CRIMINAL ‘OFFICIALS’ HAVE MADE ARUBA A WASTELAND BY THEIR SHENANIGANS, THEY’LL ALL JUST HOP A FLIGHT IN GO LIVE IN THE NETHERLANDS.
WHY
ARE
YOU
SHELTERING
SELF-CONFESSED
SOCIOPATH
JORAN VAN DER SLEAZE,
NETHERLANDS?
WE CAN ALL EASILY SEE WHY ARUBA IS THE MESS IT IS, BUT WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH Y-O-U?
Joran even our American “Dog Bounty Hunter” has you on his hit list. He will sniff you out.
ARUBA SUCKS.
THE NETHERLANDS SUCK.
I WILL NEVER SPEND ANOTHER DIME IN, OR ON, EITHER.
(THEY BOTH GIVE THEIR PEOPLE A BAD NAME.)
LIKEWISE GERMANY, IF THEY HARBOR THIS SELF-CONFESSED MANIAC.
WHERE’S NATALEE, JORAN VAN DER SCUM?
ATA’a website is http://www.aruba.com. If you go to the website you will see a section referred to as “experts on Aruba”. Plug in your zipcode and you will get a nice list of all travel agents in your area who represent ATA. They need to receive emails from us asking them to boycott Arub because Aruba is corrupt and not safe for American citizens.
I BELIEVE YOU ARE A SOCIOPATHIC RAPIST AND MURDERER, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
122. Richard. Great letter. Fantastic letter.
274. Minnesota Dad. I agree. It’s the people who sell him the drugs, helped dispose of Natalee and any evidence of his crime(s) that Joran needs to be afraid of. Especially now that they’re more exposed than ever, in front of larger audiences than ever, and they know that eventually, Joran will feel the urge to talk again.
Bill O’Reilly: Thank you.
The Van der sloots KNOW *IF Joran is to
come back to the island, he’s gonna turn
up one day without his head attached.
Some exhausted fed up nutter is gonna turn that jive upside down, and plant some flowering geraniums in it!
Joran goes back to Aruba, I think he’s a dead man for sure.
-j4n
The Arubans (the original prosecutor I think) told us way back when this first started that without a body, under Aruban law, there is no crime. Easy to commit murder in Aruba, therefore, since disposal in the ocean is so easy there. Daddy VDS, of course, knew this… no doubt he directed (if not executed) the disposal of the body. PLUS, Aruba has no intent to solve this case since it involved part of the Aruban ruling class. When the attempt to pin this on the black security guard didn’t pan out there was no one else that this was going to get pinned on. It’s been that way since day 10.
For the Editor
I am writing from Canada and i am sick and shocked by the government of Aruba and their refusal to rearrest Joran Van der Sloot in the murder of Nathalie Holloway, They have his confession on tape how many more chances is he going to get, i feel that their should be a boycott of Aruba until this murderer is put away and those that helped him, i suspect that daddy dearest had something to do with it and it seems to me that a conspicary went on from day one the day Nathalie went missing between the police and paul van de sloot. sneaking cell phone to Joran while in jail, asking Beth and Dave and JUG about re Nathalie have a history of seizures, who said anything about a seizure Joran maybe is this not evidence as he say the same thing on his taped confession. i have never seen anyone treated so badly by a justice system before as have Nathalie’s parents. I admire their strenght and preserverence and I KNOW THAT SOMEDAY JORAN WILL GET WHAT HE DESERVES. I BEG ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THE NIGHT NATHALIE WENT MISSING TO PLEASE COME FORWARD, DO THE RIGHT THING AND PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY AND HELP PUT SCUM LIKE THE VAN DER SLOOT PIECE OF CRAP AWAY FOR LIFE, MY SYMPATHY GO OUT TO NATHALIE’S PARENTS AND I CRIED FOR THEM YESTERDAY WHEN I HEARD THE NEWS RE NO ARREST FOR JORAN. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HAVE JUSTICE BE DONE FOR NATHALIE
For the Editor
I am writing from Canada and i am sick and shocked by the government of Aruba and their refusal to rearrest Joran Van der Sloot in the murder of Nathalie Holloway, They have his confession on tape how many more chances is he going to get, i feel that their should be a boycott of Aruba until this murderer is put away and those that helped him, i suspect that daddy dearest had something to do with it and it seems to me that a conspicary went on from day one the day Nathalie went missing between the police and paul van de sloot. sneaking cell phone to Joran while in jail, asking Beth and Dave and JUG about re Nathalie have a history of seizures, who said anything about a seizure Joran maybe is this not evidence as he say the same thing on his taped confession. i have never seen anyone treated so badly by a justice system before as have Nathalie’s parents. I admire their strenght and preserverence and I KNOW THAT SOMEDAY JORAN WILL GET WHAT HE DESERVES. I BEG ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THE NIGHT NATHALIE WENT MISSING TO PLEASE COME FORWARD, DO THE RIGHT THING AND PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY AND HELP PUT SCUM LIKE THE VAN DER SLOOT PIECE OF CRAP AWAY FOR LIFE, MY SYMPATHY GO OUT TO NATHALIE’S PARENTS AND I CRIED FOR THEM YESTERDAY WHEN I HEARD THE NEWS RE NO ARREST FOR JORAN. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HAVE JUSTICE BE DONE FOR NATHALIE
I will NEVER step one foot on Aruban soil!
BOYCOTT ARUBA!
There has been NO JUSTICE for Natalee or her family!
SS # 315…thank you for sending the link to the Aruba Travel (ATA) Public Relations. I will send them my thoughts of NEVER EVER STEPPING ONE FOOT ON THAT ISLAND OF CORRUPTION!
I will also send their email address to all my friends asking them to send emails to them as well.
My husband and I have been praying for Justice for Natalee and have been keeping tabs daily on what has occurred and NOT been done in this case. Although we have no children of our own we can never experience what it is like to loose a child. But this is a travesty of justice.
Thank you Scared Monkeys for keeping this available for use to voice our displeausre of the Aruban Law Enforcement (corrupted!), the Holland Justice System (even more corrupted), the Van der Sloots (evil and corrupted every last one of them) and to anyone who is friends with the three groups listed above (you are all evil and corrupted). God is watching and you will never get into heaven. Because when I get there I will be sure to push your sorry butts out and into the H#%% where you need to be all along!
Senator Joseph R. Biden, Jr. is the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. You can send an email to him directly from his website at http://biden.senate.gov/contact/ . Senator Biden needs to hear our concerns for US citizens traveling to Aruba. He needs to hear about the corruption, drugs, kidnappings, thefts, and murders on the island of Aruba. He needs to hear our feelings about Joran van der Sloot. We need to ask for travel advisories/restrictions for US citizens traveling to Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles. This is an election year and perhaps Congress will pay attention.
Hey Klaasend!
Just wanted to let you know how pissed off I am and everybody else is here in Aruba!
Joran should be in jail!
If he thinks its funny to tell somebody that he dumped a body in the sea,If the thinks thats cool to just joke about something tragic like this..he should be locked up,for the harm he is causing everyone..even if it is a lie
The Dutch are making big time money on this,Americans also(ratings etc)
The ones that are suffering here are Nats Family..and at the end the Arubans again
The moment that guy opens his mouth everything goes wrong..He needs to just shut up..he and his annoying mother and father.
Amsterdam :if we are not corrupt and just following the law right now,then I really hope that we do have at least one corrupt judge who doesn’t follow this law en locks him up…
Like Peter r de Vries said,How are you going to explain this to Beth..she is not a jojo..one day we have the truth,the other day its a lie..when is there closure for Beth..so she can have some peace in her life
Its not a game! we are talking about a young woman here who is not alive anymore!
Pissed off big time..I hope the Aruban Government will not react suprised when we will have a big fat Boycott again..cause the way things are going right now they F-en deserve it.
Take care klaasend,keep up the good work!
To our Canadian friends..many thanks for your support..if we can spread the word around the world…maybe..just maybe we CAN GET JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.
Marc (#325) … That ‘no body, no crime’ dictum might have come from Paulus, but both Karin Janssen and Hans Mos specifically said that was not the case. They specifically contradicted it.
Of course, in the event they did nothing….
By the way, everyone, the “information” that Joran is in Germany comes from Joran’s acquaintances, according to the article.
Methinks there is room for doubt. If Joran is as afraid of crossing the street as we are told he is, does it make sense that he would take off for somewhere … and then tell people where he was going?
#35
AMSTRADAM!!
YOU NEED TO SHUT UP.. HE .. HIS DADDY… ARE GUILTY AS HELL.. PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW??? THATS INPOSSIBLE WITH THE BASTARDS THAT RUN YOUR COUNTRY AND ARUBA… COME TO THE USA… IF YOU HAVE ANY CHILDREN AND SEE HOW FAST YOU CRY FOR JUSTICE.. ONCE ONE IS KILLED OR VIOLATED.. HERE IN THE USA WE HAVE JUSTICE.. OUR COURTS PREVAIL.. IN YOUR COUNTRY THERE IS NO SUCH THING.. GO AHEAD PROTECT THIS SLIME BAGS.. INVITE THEM TO DINNER… WE HAVE OUR RIGHT TO FEEL THE WAY WE DO.. ITS ONE OF OUR OWN THAT WAS KILLED…WE HAVENT BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE TO GET JUSTICE IN THE COURTS IN ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS.. IT ALL SMELLS OF ROTTEN CORRUPTION… ANTI AMERICANS!! MANY AMERICANS HARD EARNED MONEY IS BEING SPENT IN YOUR CORRUPT LAND.. GIRLS GO MISSING EVEN KIDS.. AND YOUR COUNTRY DOES NADA…. AND YOU COME HERE TELLING US YOUR BULL SHIT.. FOR ALL WE KNOW JORAN IS RELATED TRO YOU…
Linda Aruba (#330): If I may ask, what are the Aruban people doing? You say that the Arubans are suffering … are they sitting there, wringing their hands at the absence of tourists, and blaming Beth and Dave? This is what we saw once before, probably at the instigation of the Aruban government.
Is anyone considering mounting, for example, a silent vigil in front of the PvdScum home, and/or in front of the law office where he works?
Or urging people to boycott the law office … ANY law office … where he works?
There are lots of other ideas to pursue, but if the Aruban people won’t speak up, or take their “anger” beyond just fuming, why should Americans be willing to visit there?
To SS Just emailed the ata.pr@aruba.com and asked them why they were protecting the VDS’ and how much more business where they willing to lose.
I told them it was very simple ‘NO JUSTICE NO TOURISTS’.
BILLY O REILEY
I READ IN ON MONKEYS WEBSITE.. THAT YOU ARE AS FIRED UP AS WE ARE ABOUT THE ARUBA ANY ADVISE AS WHAT WE CAN DO.. THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING WE CAN.. THIS IS A TRAVESTY.. AND CERTAINLY NO A FAIR JUDICIAL SYSTEM ARUBA HAS.. THE CORRUPTION THERE IS SO INTENSE.. HOW COULD PAUULUS VANDERSLOOT HAVE SO MUCH POWER.. SOMETHING ISNT RGHT THERE.. TO MANY COVER UPS!!!
as you read all these comments you will see how americans are fed up and want justice.. we have adopted natalies family as our own.. and are on the same mission.. that natalies remains be brought back to the usa…her spirit will not rest until we find her and bring her back here.. help us get a solution mr reiley
thank you …GOD BLESS YOU
BILL OREILEY
THAT WAS A TYPE O DIDNT MEAN TO REFER TO YOU AS BILLY.. MY APOLOGIES
A further question for Linda Aruba (#330) … If Arubans aren’t doing anything, why not?
Is the tradition of civic activism not part of Aruban culture and history? Or is there something more? Do you think that people might be afraid? If so, of what? PvdScum only … or of others?
In any case, it’s up to Arubans. Your island now is tarred with suspicion. Many of us are determined to continue urging a tourist boycott, and in a post above, someone who recently went to Aruba confirms that tourism is in shreds.
Don’t ask for us to ease off; we won’t.
Maybe the Aruban people can do something. It’s their economy, after all. We just want to get at the truth about Natalee, protect other Americans, and see all guilty parties tried, convicted, sentenced (not just for six months), and incarcerated for the duration.
And by the way … maybe someone on Aruba could start up a fund to help defray the costs of the Persistence?
That’s the vessel, as you know, that is searching the waters offshore for Natalee Holloway. The Dutch aren’t doing it or paying for it; Aruba isn’t doing it or paying for it; American volunteers are.
And that search is the responsibility of ARUBA.
So how many Arubans want to donate?
Then tell me why Americans should help Aruba.
Maybe that should be the next big project … contacting the hotels, casinos, and other businesses on Aruba ‘suggesting’ that they establish a fund to support the Perseverance.
Unbeleivable! Shows you the power of Paulus, he must have dirt on everyone. He called in every favor to save Joran. Pathetic, really pathetic.
I said this on Riehlworld and got bounced for this, but I will say here…..The Van der Sloots of the Kennedy’s of the 1960′s. Teddy got away with manslaughter and now Joran has too. Possibly murder.
Unbelievable–Justice for Natalee
Thanks Eurobert.
Scarlet
Those foolish individuals who are going to represent Aruba at the Boston & NY travel shows sure have a “big set”. No one could pay me enough to work one of those booths, and face what is about to happen there from passerby and ordinary people attending shows to obtain travel/vacation ideas. Just wait until people spot an Aruban Banner…….LOL. It ain’t gonna be pretty. Just remember 911 is a free call, no 25c necessary.
Good people of Aruba!
Now is the time!
Overthrow the fetid mongrel Arawak King!
Put his head on a pike
and tourists will come back!
If someone does something bad to joran I bet the ALE wont coverup for that person. They will turn the island upside down looking for who did it.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
Hey you Aruban people you should be stringing up those 3 judges on some lamp-posts by now…
WHATS TAKING YOU SO LONG ?
If someone bumps joran off to shut his mouth I WILL LOSE NO SLEEP.
BOYCOTT ARUBA
So many people involved with the coverup and they must all be afraid. If one gives it up, the others will have to silence them to protect themselves. Things have gone to far. Some day someone, who has nothing to loose or family to protect, will act. It is logical that all will not end well. Justice will prevail. An eye for an eye. Karma is lirking around every corner…. waiting and watching. America will wait and watch also.
to Katie #313 – I have a similar recollection. We were watching Fox News very late one night about a week after Joran & the Kalpoes were initially taken into custody…there was a “live news update” from a Fox-affiliated UK news bureau which interrupted whichever program we were watching. I DISTINCTLY remember the news anchor announcing that one of the suspects had CONFESSED to Natalee’s MURDER. The incident was not characterized as an accidental overdose, etc., or any of the other theories that have since been explored. I continued watching that night for the promised “updates,” and nothing further was ever said. It disturbed me then as much as it still does now. As a mother and as a lawyer, there is very little about this entire case which does not sicken me.
Joran’s not hiding on his own, IMO. He has been MADE to hide so he won’t run his mouth anymore.
In the beginning Anita said -when MSNBC got inside the jail- she thought Joran would be SAFE in jail…SAFE from being hounded by reporters.
And in Joran’s book he talks about the day they came to arrest him as if it were all planned for his own good.
It’s just happening again is all. They need time to recoverup the coverup and don’t want Joran talking anymore until they make sure what they will allow him to say.
For some reason, the website links aren’t working when I bring them into the SM site. Here are the email addresses again.
ATA’s website for travel agents (“experts on aruba”). Look in “book now” and “find an aruba expert” – http://www.aruba.com
ATA’s Public Relations email – ata.pr@aruba.com
Aruban Boycott Blogspot has information about the case, a petition to sign, and addresses and emails of government officials in the Netherlands and the US – http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/
Senator Joseph Biden is Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. His email is from his website at – http://biden.senate.gov/contact/
The Texas Equusearch address is P.O. Box 395, Dickinson, Texas 77539. Indicate on your check that the donation is for Persistence/Natalee Holloway.
Some of you have expressed your wish that jvds will have his day in court in front of a jury.
There is no jury trial in aruba, the judge will decide about guilt and verdict.So guess what will happen if jvds ever appears in front of a judge in aruba.
After all there are not so many judges in aruba.
There are some main flaws to the dutch/aruban
justice system as I see it
1. It is too lenient. Last year a murderer appealed his sentence of life imprisonment because he found it too harsh.
The problem was that this was the third time he killed someone. If I remember well he only served a total of 6 or 8 years for his first 2 killings.
2. The upper crust of the dutch judiciary in aruba wil always protect its own, (the dutch) and this has been going on for a very long time.
guajiri
Contact Aruba:
Diario Aruba:
diario@setarnet.aw
Aruba Today
news@arubatoday.com
Amigoe:
webmaster@amigoe.com
Aruba Tourism Authority
Public Relations
L.G. Smith Blvd. 172
Eagle, Aruba
Dutch Caribbean
Phone: International code +(297) 582-3777
Fax: International code +(297) 583-4702
ata.pr@aruba.com
Dear People of the Netherlands and Aruba,
Sixty-five years ago, we spilled the blood of our American loved ones all over your soil so that you could enjoy the lives that you lead today. We have asked for deserved justice for one young woman. Shame on you.
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#98
I know the group of lawyers here in FLorida who’ve been generously funding Joran’s defense will be pleased. Joran’s got an incredible amount of support here.
—-
b1tch pleasssssssse!
(see more at HAND)
-j4n
Whether America, Aruba or elsewhere, rule #1 is “No body, no crime.” This is not to say that if one of the Kalpoe brothers or the guy who piloted the boat out to sea with Natalee’s body flipped on van der Sloot he could not be convicted on what would be circumstantial evidence, but realistically this would be unlikely.
I just got back from Aruba and find the widespread rumor that Natalee is alive as a “runaway” in Jamaica both ludicrous and disturbing. A Jamaican boyfriend? Doubtful. It’s common knowledge in America that mainly white “trailer trash” and some middle or even upper class Jewish girls go in for black guys. Other than that, um….NO. Joran was her type and he’s as guilty as they come.
The Kalpoes know it and so does their Mother, but they also know that if they start talking as Surinamese, they’ll get charged with a crime before the Dutch van der Sloot would.
Paulus knows junior did it too, and he’s just as complacent since he helped dispose of Natalee’s body. I don’t know how Mr. & Mrs. van der Sloot sleep at night or the inherent evil that enabled them to keep a straight face while lying to Natalee’s parents. Have they ever stopped to think how THEY would feel if Joran traveled abroad and was NEVER heard from again?
Once Natalee’s body was put overboard, the chances of van der Sloot ever being held accountable for his crime went overboard as well. While I understand the NEED the family of Natalee has for justice, I will only blame those in the Aruban Government who may well know what REALLY happened. Boycotting the island will harm the good Aruban citizens who feel like all of us do who want justice for Natalee. There is no justice in such a boycott.
I know were is nathalie is
_________________________
SM: Really, then why don’t you tell the authorities? (klaasend)
Joran van der Sloot faces 50 years imprisonment… but not for murder
Federal prosecutors in Birmingham, Alabama have filed a criminal complaint against van der Sloot, a citizen of the Netherlands, on wire fraud and extortion charges in connection with his soliciting money in May on promises he would reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains in Aruba and the circumstances of her death, according to court documents obtain ed by the National Association of Chiefs of Police.
The complaint charges that van der Sloot, on May 10, extorted $15,000 from an individual as partial payment toward his promise to reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains for $250,000. The maximum sentence on the extortion count is 20 years in prison.
The complaint also charges van der Sloot with wire fraud for causing the $15,000 to be transferred by wire from a Birmingham bank to a bank in the Netherlands in furtherance of his scheme to defraud. The maximum sentence for the wire fraud count is 30 years.
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