RSSAruba Does the Unthinkable … Aruban Prosecutor Closes Natalee Holloway Case … Criminal, Simply Criminal
Aruba commits the ultimate crime and closes the Natalee Holloway case. Despicable, simple despicable. Memo to the ALE and Aruban prosecutors office, please do not even pretend that you went the extra mile in this case. All you accomplished was to successfully show that your island is corrupt and you place no value on human life.
Let this be a loud and clear message to all potential vacationers … Aruba does not care what happens to you when you travel to their island. Stalking, praying upon tourists, date rape drugs, assault, and murder are all inconsequential actions when it comes to prosecuting crimes in Aruba. All they care about is protecting their own and you spending your money.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Prosecutors closed their investigation into the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, saying Tuesday they still believe three young men were involved in her death but can’t prove it after 932 days of searching failed to turn up a body.
The three main suspects in the case were re-arrested last month after prosecutors in Aruba discovered online chat sessions they hoped would break the case open. But none of the men talked in custody, and without the 18-year-old’s body, prosecutors said they had no recourse but to close the most notorious missing persons case in the Caribbean.
If the three suspects were put on trial, the lack of evidence “would lead to an acquittal,” the Public Prosecutor’s Office said in a statement.
UPDATE I: Fox reporting Aruba Investigation Into Disappearance of American Teen Natalee Holloway Is Not Over
Well like most things that have come out of Aruba in the Natalee Holloway case … who knows what the truth is? I guess this is a translation issue as well. More like the fact that no one seems to be able to tell the truth. Aruban prosecutor Hans Mos is supposed to have a press conference Thursday.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Aruban officials have not closed their investigation into the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, FOX News learned Tuesday.
The media liason for the public prosecutor in Aruba dismissed an earlier report that the investigation was over. A press conference scheduled for Thursday will reveal new evidence against three young men last seen with the Alabama teen.
The investigation is in a new phase with detectives reviewing new evidence, the media liason told FOX News.
Posted December 18, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, boycott, Crime, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, WTF | 79 comments |
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Was it … two weeks ago that Hans Mos echoed Karen Janssen and specifically said that a prosecution WAS possible without a body?
Now, another flip-flop here?
And there was talk that Aruban officials called Fox News (why Fox … does Greta vS have some sort of special ties with Aruba?) saying that the investigation was NOT closed … when earlier in the day it said that it was?
Really, we have to look to the Nazis for a parallel in the pattern of lies. I don’t like the ritual, and overdone, easy comparisons to the Nazis that abound these days … but Aruba fits right into the pattern.
This is a repost of what I sent to ATA.Aruba@Arubc.com earlier in the day. Let’s engulf them in messages of contempt.
The boycott now will never cease.
Well, you filthy scum showed your true colors today….
Just as the water search gets underway, a search which has every prospect of coming up with some evidence about Natalee Holloway, you vermin close the case (which was to have remained open until Dec. 31) because you say there is no evidence.
Even an Aruban can see through this.
Even an Aruban will understand your haste to close this case.
Even an Aruban will realize what you’re trying to do.
And if an Aruban can understand it, the average cockroach will see through you in a flash.
You’ve made three or four people on Aruba very happy today … I can see them gloating, with their now-famous smirks, at the thought that you’ve done it to the Americans again.
You haven’t.
You’ve just proved how contemptible you and your “one happy island” are. Those of us who have followed Natalee’s case for the last two and a half years may not be surprised at your action … I think it’s now clear that justice is an impossible goal on your island.
I hope we never see you in our country again, promoting travel to your hell hole of an island.
You’ve given the “boycott Aruba” movement the biggest shot in the arm that it could ever get. Thanks for the opportunity.
Just remember … you asked for it.
Hearing the news that this case is closed is horrible. I guess Aruba is really scared that they will find Natalee in the water with the search that just started.
I have two daughters and none of my family will ever go to Aruba.
On the bright side: If they are indeed closing the case due to fear of what might soon be found by the deep-sea search then it means that Natalee might finally be coming home to her family. I hope and pray that this is really it and she comes home.
THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IN NATALIES MEMORY IS TO BOYCOTT ARUBA.THEY DO NOT DESERVE THE MONEY AMERICAN TOURISTS BRING THERE.CASE CLOSED ? HOW CAN A CASE BE CLOSED THAT HAS NOT COME TO CLOSURE…WHAT HAPPENED TO NATALIE AND WE ALL KNOW WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION..THE VERMIN WHO GOT AWAY WITH MURDER. THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO ANSWER TO AN ARUBAN COURT BUT THEY WILL AT SOME POINT, ANSWER TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY.
FOR NOW…BOYCOTT ARUBA !
Our son’s soccer coach used to always say, “Do you feel guilty?” The answer today is YES. It does seem that the Aruban guilty are worried about what the deep-sea search will find. I hope and pray that they find Natalee so that someone will finally prove that they are GUILTY.
Boycott Aruba as never before.
molly in Houston
Don’t understand. Is it closed or not closed? Does this now mean the family can get the files?
What a bunch of friggin keystone cops! Way to go KLPD.
OK, everything about this couldn’t have been scripted it is so bizarre.
Watch for this tomorrow in the press conference:
New evidence is nothing we didn’t know already. Paulus has not been implicated for anything (of course….because all of Aruba falls when the truth is delivered). We tried our best but we just don’t feel this new evidence is enough to prosecute…..sorry about the false alarm yesterday regarding closing the case (although, we have already told the Van Der Sloots they are in the clear and they have had their “freedom party”) we will decide what to do with the case on the 31st (hint…I believe they have already tipped us off to what they are going to do).
ARUBA, KLPD, ALE….you are the biggest bunch of morons I believe I have ever seen. You cannot even execute a cover-up without screwing it up! How embarrassing!!!!
md
It means that I will not feel any sorry when somebody else decides to “take out the trash”.
- it’s closed, it’s not closed.
- there’s no evidence,there’s evidence.
- there’s new evidence,there’s no new evidence.
- we know she’s dead, we don’t know she’s dead. oh wait a minute..let me correct that…we don’t know why we know she’s dead we just know she’s dead
wow! bizarre indeed.
Just another ploy to try to stem the tide of public opinion…sorry Hans Mouse it ain’t going to work..get ready for a National Outcry the likes of which you have never dreamed ..and then get ready for that evil island and all your evil buddies to disintegrate into the ash. You people are pathetic..you call yourselves prosecutors..you spelled it wrong your nothing but PERSECUTORS of that poor Holloway family.. and what for? ..four filthy perverted, disgusting excuses for human beings who are as guilty of the crime as that damn judge is guilty of letting them go, and YOU are letting them get away with it. SHAME ON YOU ALL, YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE HUMAN RACE.
Amen YoYo….we can agree that the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing down in Aruba…..What the heck???
This kind of crap has been par for the course since day one. If you are going to execute a cover-up, make sure everyone is on the right page. Aruba can’t get this straight and seems to screw up at every turn!
It’s almost humorous if it wasn’t for a life has been lost.
md
mn dad – after what’s gone on in the past couple of weeks, imo it’s proof positive of zero cover-up. I’m not so sure they are “savvy” enough to pull it off.
100% agreement – It would be laughable…if it didn’t affect so many people(not bloggers.no offense to anyone).
I’m sure the circus will continue Thursday, if/when the supposed press conference takes place.
There are few things more frustrating in life than seeing a cover-up take place successfully, despite all the odds.
I trust Americans will support Americans and impose a total boycott on Aruba.
How could any parent justify allowing their daughter to go to this hellhole after this?
Do the decent thing, have nothing to do with Aruba.
Scum of the earth have obviously got away with murder. Shame on this country and it’s residents.
Sincere condolences to the Holloway family.
all I have to say is:
F**K you , Aruba.
To the Dutch and Aruba.. you made a big mistake with your announcements over Thanksgiving Day and weekend. More in the US now know.
Did you think we were dumb and only watched football games?? Mos’s words were on every station at almost every break.
More people who didn’t know about the case, now know. More are asking questions. More are supporting the boycott. More are aware of the coverup, corruption and chronyism.
Good luck on your tourism! You made the bed, now “lie” in it more.
I sure hope protecting your 6’4 monster was worth it. Now people in Aruba need to prepare for a recession because we Americans will take you there in a big hurry to punish you all for this crime and cover up.
F**K YOU Aruba!!! We are going to choke your economy until you realize the choices you’ve made to protect these bastards. Never underestimate the resolve of Americans. We protect our own and you made a mistake. I hope your people starve for food and your children forced to the streets to beg!
One odd thing to me…Aruba says its going to have a press conference and announce the ‘new evidence’ WTF?? Aruba has never announced any evidence the whole time this thing has been going on. The many questions we all have had they always refused to answering using the term ‘it might hurt the investigation’..
Whats with that crazy place? i think they have all told so many lies they cant remember what has or has not been told but apparently a big stink was raised after saying the case was closed for them to come back and state it wasnt closed.
Wow! look at the tune of american posters (and foreign as well) Since the recent announcements. I am so glad to hear that so many are still following this case.
My prediction is that Aruba will dry up as a tourist attraction, Dutch and Aruban products will show considerable decreases and American supporters of anything Aruban will take considerable hits. This is the era of the internet, get used to it you evil vermin!
No Justice for Natalee
No tourists for Aruba!!!
Boycott Aruba and the Netherlands because your Daughter’s life depends on it!!!
You should learn how to respect women you Aruban and dutch scumbags!!!
Anita WTF?
Don’t you care about other women?
Aruban and Dutch perpetrators, Man up you effin cowards!!!
The men we have seen in this case aren’t men at all thay are nothing but sadistic wussies who don’t have the guts to admit who they are and what they have done.
God will have the final say so.
Count on it!
wow! even fox news is bashing Aruba! How could they not admit they have royally screwed up if fox news is bashing them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt_Hj7cGGTs
Aruba is an island of COLD and HEARTLESS persons who have no Conscience,and telling lies is normal conduct. Every expression sympathy for Beth and Dave has been PHONEY to the MAX.
I am beginning to believe that ORANJESTAD is POPULATED by ORANGOUTANS.
Tourism in Aruba has NOT stalled. There was an initial slump but more G-D Americans are booking flights there b/c everything is so cheap. We HAVE to start a BOYCOTT ARUBA movement! I just spent a half an hour on Tripadvisor.com posting boycott notes. I even went into their Dutch “helpful” phrases” page and added
Zal ik ook verkracht worden en in Aruba geverkracht?
which is Dutch for “Will I be raped and killed in Aruba too?
For serious, we have got to communicate with the people who don’t get it that every dollar spent in Aruba is another shovel of sand on her grave.
This will prob. have a nice aftermath for Antilles justice system.
aRUBA is the investigation in the HOLLOWAY CASE OPEN or CLOSED ???. It can not be both OPEN and CLOSED at tha same time unless an investigation was never conducted in the first place. The truth is there never was an investigation to start with. Do you people know how to tell the truth?
Please don’t believe everything that Fox is telling you!
In the Aruban media as well as the Dutch media it has been confirmed that (for now) the investigation is indeed closed.
For everyone’s understanding; this does not mean that the person(s) responsible for the dissapearance of Natalee will never be convicted. However new and strong evidence shall have to be presented in order to prosecute the suspect(s).
And again; neither the Dutch people nor the Dutch government have anything to do with the way the investigation was conducted. Only because the Aruban government invited the Dutch police detectives, they were able to get involved.
The Dutch media also report that the attorney of Joran van der Sloot is not happy with the fact that the Aruban prosecutors are not involved in the (private) boat search because of the risk that evidence is planted.
An instant update, just from the newsticker.
1. The search for Natalee Holloway continues. However the search will be executed by American experts of the Texas Equuesearch (TES). This is marked as a private search for a missing person. The costs of the operation are expected to be over 300.000 dollar / day.
2. The ship – named Persistence – is able to search to see levels reachting 3000 meter. This in contrast to the previous searches which were limitted to 100 m depth.
3. Dave Holloway allready announced the search a month ago. The reasons for delay were solely due to the tropical storm Olga.
4. And now it becomes complecated, in case evidence will be found, it most likely will not hold in Aruban court. The defence of Joran van der Sloot has allready filed objection with the suggestion that in case evidence would be found – quote – “it would be to easy to put an additional handback with it”.
I will boycott Aruba but the sad thing is that the 3 slimes are not going to live or stay there.The rich one has been away at college.The 2 servants are attempting to come to Miami to go to college. Wouldn`t that be a hoot.Come on over boys.Some back yard justice awaits.
Interesting that they closed this case on the heels of Rudy Crokes statement of “not being warned” of the new arrests….
This is called “sepot”‘ in dutch legalese. The formal investigation is over. New facts may be presented.
Only way Americans can respond to Aruba ignoring Natalie is to BOYCOTT!
We have control over nothing there; we can stop giving them U.S. dollars.
@ Aruba is creepy,
I am sorry to inform you, but your text translated by translation computer does not make any sence. You wrote :
“Zal ik ook verkracht worden en in Aruba geverkracht?”, which is Dutch for “Will I be raped and killed in Aruba too?
No, sorry, you write : “Will I be raped, or was I raping the Island ?”.
@ scared monkeys, please remove my previous text, even I made a mistake in the translation.
@ Aruba is creepy,
I am sorry to inform you, but your text translated by translation computer does not make any sence. You wrote :
“Zal ik ook verkracht worden en in Aruba geverkracht?”, which is Dutch for “Will I be raped and killed in Aruba too?
No, sorry, you write : “Will I be raped and was I raping the Island ?”.
Abort
R&R
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Boycott
Accomplished
Well we haven’t seen it just yet, at least I haven’t, but I guess it’s only a matter of time that an Internet message starts making the rounds placing a “bounty” on Joran and the other rapists. If and when that occurs and is accomplished, there will be a sigh of satisfaction from mothers and fathers everywhere that justice will have been meted out. It’s just bound to happen.
My heart just breaks for Beth and Dave. If I’m speechless, they’ve got to be numb. God Bless them.
#24, you posted:
“The Dutch media also report that the attorney of Joran van der Sloot is not happy with the fact that the Aruban prosecutors are not involved in the (private) boat search because of the risk that evidence is planted.”
Yes indeed, clever those Aruban folks! No doubt the Holloway family has been hiding Natalee’s remains in a plastic baggie for over 2 years, and upon finding some old crab trap in deep waters, will no doubt insert those remains in the trap as ‘evidence.
Is there ANYONE in charge in Aruba that has a brain cell? Anyone?
And here is the message that I sent to Aruba tourism:
Hello,
I find Aruba’s handling (or should I say MIS-handling?) of the Holloway case beneath contempt and will NEVER visit your island because of it. Nor will anyone that I know.
How convenient that there is not enough evidence… if it hadn’t been destroyed you could have used it to prosecute the perpetrators who will now go free. What kind of message are you sending the world? I for one, hear it loud and clear!!!!
Continue your corruption without my tourist dollars!
Unfortunately, my message bounced back! “Host Unknown”
Well let see, it seems the current “the investigation is closed, the investigation is not closed” fits everything else coming out of Aruba:
We left her at the Holiday Inn, We left her at the Marriott Beach.
A suspect has confessed and is leading investigators to Natalee’s body, Natalee is dead; No confession, no body.
Deepak took me home, no, it was Satish who took me home; oops, I walked home.
Paulus: I picked Joran up at McDonalds at 4:00 am; No, I picked Joran up at 11:00 pm.
Natalee was falling down drunk; She wasn’t drunk, she knew what she was doing.
Natalee was buried in one spot for awhile and then moved; Natalee committed suicide by taking drugs.
Paulus was wrongfully arrested and is given money; Paulus was involved and shouldn’t get any money.
We have new evidence; there is no new evidence.
The Dutch airforce flew F16s over Aruba looking for Natalee; The airforce was scheduled to fly over for mapping.
oh we could go on and on and on.
YOYO: No, this stupidity doesn’t prove Aruba is too stupid to pull a cover-up of massive proportions. It only proves that Aruba is so evil that even when the truth comes out, they turn around and deny it because Rudy baby doesn’t like it. It’s a slap at Americans that Aruba really thinks we are dumb enough to accept this atrocity.
I might add: Aruba hasn’t seen nothing yet!
Hotel occupancy rates of 75.9% is gonna be a great number you are going to wish for by the end of 2008.
I hear now Joran’s attorneys filing re: any possible evidence tht may be recovered in the sea? Oh brother! I am sorry we have to make everyone on Aruba pay for this but obviously the locals don’t care one way or the other about Natalee and her family. Therefore, we will make all of them pay with no tourist dollars!
Someone said make them starve until their children are forced into the streets to beg. I like that one. Maybe then they will find a pulse in their country. Boycott anything Dutch. Will someone please list all common Dutch products sold in the US? I want to make certain I am participating in the boycott to the fullest
Wew, huge backlash Aruba, most of the news, even on the major stations, reporting about closing the Natalee Holloway case are in total shock, some even refering to the cover up and inaptness.
Looks like Aruba better plant more aloe.
One of the most shocking revelations:
The current world population for mid-year 2007 is estimated at 6,602,224,175.
About 99.9% of the entire world is looking at ARUBA with disbelief, disgust, and distain.
I think this travesty of human rights & justice should be taken up by delegates of the United Nations assembly in N.Y. Aruba should be sanctioned by the world community as a disgrace. Even Iran has a low but certain degree of partial respect….Aruba has zero.
The only good thing about Joran’s attorneys already filing to make sure any sea evidence is not brought into the case is….
Why would they file this if they knew she was somewhere else? If they were aware that they had successfully dropped her down a mineshaft, cremated her, buried her on the island, put her in a crypt, etc.
Me’s thinks that the sea search is scaring some important people. Think about it — the day the boat is to go out they close the case. Immediately, an objection is attached to the closed case against any evidence potentially found at sea.
You wouldn’t file this objection, instead you would stand back like Joran and laugh while saying, “I will laugh if they find the girl” as you know she isn’t in the sea.
Let’s hope they get her remains and bring them back to the USA. I believe at this point in time it would be the best justice for this case to find her, bring her back to the US, have forensics done, announce the results, and let the media continue to decimate Aruba’s tourism forever. Aruba has made sure that Paulus Van Der Sloot is untouchable so why even continue to try and use the Aruban system. Humiliate them instead. No one will ever go to Aruba unless they are a drug lord, a mobster, or a hooker.
MD
#39
What did you hear?
MD
That is really odd. What would be worse is if the courts agreed, then there would be absolutely no doubt that there is a massive cover up by Aruba, (but we already knew that)
Actually, if he were innocent, would you welcome the opportunity for evidence to prove it?
I would think that the Aruban court could bar that ONLY, if he was proven innocent in a trial.
It is Joe T that is filing?
MD #42: i agree. Without a doubt papa poop is steering J’s attorneys.
Like I said earlier, they have no intention of doing anything to any of them no matter what they find. It is time to sink Aruba and all its scum.
Like MD said, IF they find Natalee, they need to bring her back to the United States, announce the findings and bury Aruba. They have been slapping us in the face and laughing at us from the beginning. I would love to slap them and laugh in their face now.
Lets pray they bring Natalee home.
I had believed Aruba was a place that should be visited in my lifetime,,,,,now I have learned otherwise.
F*** ARUBA AND THE DUTCH.
BTW, I think Red Bull is a dutch product. Maybe Americans can try slowing down on that Euro Kool aid for a while.
No really, f*** you Aruba.
This case began with the Van Der Sloots, Kalpoes and Van Der Straten. It should have ended there as well. Funny, in all the staged ‘investigation’ by the Dutch I don’t recall seeing anything about Van Der Straten being questioned about his actions in early June 2005.
Aruba is the only place where scum lives on the rock instead of under it.
Provided by a Monkey after researching, sorry but I didn’t note the Monkey’s name:
Here’s the list of Dutch Companies & Products:
Shell Oil
Shell Gasoline and other petroleum products (note: Shell is owned by Queen Beatrix herself). If you are in a car and it pulls into a Shell gas station, tell them to go to another gas station and tell them why!
Heineken
Beer
Unilever
Dove (soaps, creams, deoderants)
Lux (soap)
Lipton (tea and other beverages)
Ice Creams: Magnum or Breyers
Vaseline
Ragu (spaghetti sauce)
I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter
OMO (detergent)
Snuggle (fabric softener)
Shampoos: Organics, SunSilk, and ThermaSilk
Pond’s (skincare products)
Close-Up (toothpaste) and Signal (toothpaste)
Calvin Klein and Elizabeth Arden fragrances
Philips
Amplifiers,
Answering Machines,
Beta Video Recorders,
Camcorders,
CD Players,
CD-I Players,
CD-R and CD-RW,
Clock Radios,
Color television sets,
Digital Cameras,
DVD Video products,
Electric shavers,
Equalizers,
Fax Machines,
HD-TV systems,
Lighting (and light bulbs including Halogena lilghtbulbs),
Loud Speakers,
LCD projectors,
Modems,
Monitors,
Pagers,
Printers,
Radios,
Record Players,
Scanners,
Security Systems,
Telephones,
VCRs and VCR related products,
Matchline, Proline, Trimedia, and Triton products
Set-Top Boxes (for Canal+, America Online, Direct TV, and Microsoft),
SpeechMike Pro USB
Connected Pl@net
RUSH! Portable MP3 Digital Audio Player
The Philips Arena in Atlanta Georgia
FreeSpeech Browser
KLM/Northwest Airlines
Airline
Dutch Cheeses
Gouda
Edam
BUY AMERICAN!
BOYCOTT ARUBA & ALL OTHER NETHERLAND ANTILLES FLOATING ROCKS & NETHERLANDS = THEY DO NOT HOLD THEIR OWN ACCOUNTABLE IN CRIMES AGAINST TOURISTS!
Dang! The only one I’ll miss is Heineken. That’s OK, for Natalee I’ll just switch to Corona. Everyone needs to sacrifice something in life, I’m willing.
At this point, I don’t think an Aruban judge or jury would ever convict anyone. They’ve made their choice; we’ll rub their collective noses in it.
I wonder if some of our politicians might want to speak up now?
Hey, Spencer Bachus of Alabama … still think that Aruba “did everything it could”?
Natalee Holloway moved to cold case file By MARGARET WEVER, Associated Press Writer
Wed Dec 19, 4:36 AM ET
ORANJESTAD, Aruba – Prosecutors dismissed the case against the three main suspects in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, saying they still believe they were involved in her death but can’t prove it after 932 days of searching failed to turn up a body.
Preposterous! Who on earth wrote this for the reporter? ‘Searching’ for 932 days? The spin gets more out of control by the hour.
#9, it’s aruba, you expected something different?
dennisintn
we can promote the boycott and have a great impact on Aruba. Soon these boys will be public enemy #1 and daddy-o Paulus too once their economy is down the toilet and their people are starving and begging.
The boycott should extend to anything Dutch IMO and not just Aruba. $$$ drives everything and closing this case unsolved and covering up this crime to protect the son of a want to be judge will be their undoing!
STARVE YOU ARUBAN BASTARDS!
The real pity, for the average hard working Aruban citizen, is that they have been cowed so long by corrupt offficals, it has become an accepted way of life, they just don’t know what to do to improve their lives. Here’s a hint: speak up. Do it privately, by letter, FAX, email, internet blog, pass a note to one of the few departing tourists leaving the airport. Everyone seems to know “details” behind what became of Natalee and are afraid under threat of death to speak up. Well, folks, I can guarantee you that nothing is ever going to improve on Aruba. The world has seen and understands what has happened there, and you and your children, and children’s children will pay the economic price. Americans are a peculiar people, once they get their blood boiling, they become obsessive. Right now, there are thousands (1,000′s) of emails and letters and FAXES flooding American businesses with interests on Aruba, tourism businesses, schools, colleges, universities, TV & radio stations, patriotic organizations, presidential candidates, U.S. Governors, Senators, Congressmen, and just about everyone we can think of. We are demanding they publically support the BOYCOTT ARUBA effort, and denounce the Aruban human rights violation perpetrated upon the Twitty-Holloway family.
You have made the world list of least desirable countries to visit. We intend to make you # 1. Count on it.
Rebecca (#54) … I understand your feelings, but my belief is that we have the power to smash Aruba. I’m less certain about the Netherlands.
Besides, for the average American, I think the idea that we should boycott Aruba will be much easier to accept (after all, Aruba is the site where whatever happened happened).
Keeping focus is essential, in my view.
Besides, the more of an impact we have on Aruba, the more incentive there is for the Dutch to do whatever they can.
5/30/05 or 5/31/05 PVDS is poolside proclaiming “no body, no case” to the 3 suspects but this is not incriminating??????????????????
5/30/05 DK is on the internet to friend in USA writing of exploiting the beautiful young American tourist & writes the Holiday Inn LIE, making up LIE hours after being seen with her leaving the C&C hellhole is not incriminating??????????????
There is a serious lack of common sense, these are but a few of the absolute incriminating evidence that exist & have FROM THE BEGINNING.
It appears that the DIRTIEST SECRET is that WHEN A TOURIST IS KILLED THEY HAVE THE PROCESS IN PLACE TO DISCARD THE TOURIST SO THAT THERE IS NO PHYSICAL PROOF, the authorities then DISREGARD & DESTROY incriminating evidence with the aid of the prosecution & judiciary.
Myself, I have a serious suspicion that the VISABILITY TEAM is a major player in the PROCESS designed to cover up serious crimes against TOURISTS. Why else would 2 of their employees “committed suicide shortly after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway”? There has been none reported since that time 2 1/2 years ago have there?????????????
Disgusting cowards who prey upon vulnerable trusting tourists. It doesn’t matter where the tourists come from, they PREY UPON TOURISTS & discard them. ALL COUNTRIES SHOULD PROTECT THEIR TRAVELER’S, WARN THEM AGAINST THE CHEAP VACATIONS THAT WILL COST WHAT CAN NOT BE REPLACED, THEIR LOVED ONES.
There is nothing botched, it is intentional criminal corruption designed by authorities & known to the population.
And so, once again, I ask people to think … is Aruba doing all this merely for scum like Paulus van der Sloot? His son Joran? The Kalpoes?
Or is there something darker involved that they dare not let be revealed to the American public?
You know what I think is behind it all….
“Prosecutors close their case…”, Americans Open their eyes.
Watch your back Joran.
Can’t say that I’m surprised. We’ve expected this for some time. Aruba doesn’t want to admit what happened to a girl, on vacation, celebrating her high school graduation… it’d be too embarrassing.
But, I will say that I’m surprised that the Dutch didn’t do anything to help the Holloways in their quest for justice. It was said, about three-four weeks ago that they were working on some extensive DNA tests. Since then, we have heard nothing. Do they feel they owe no one an explanation? Or are they going to be releasing another peer-review, outlining the things that are wrong with the Aruban justice system, as if Natalee and her family carry no weight in the larger scheme of things. That’s been the Dutch way. It doesn’t matter how many women and children are trafficked accross their borders as they, too, are not part of the bigger picture.
Queen Bea needs to get her head out of her ass and come be realize that every single life that is effected by the organized abduction and murder of our women and children is far more important than her image. Eventually, she will have to confront her problems and put an end to the exploitation of the innocent, one by one. She has to start somewhere… why not start with Natalee?
Again, I expect nothing out of Aruba, they have already shown us their hard, calloused, bloody hands… but why would the Queen of The Netherlands not try to stop them? Perhaps, she is just like them… afraid to admit the truth. But when the truth is revealed, she will be the first one to say that she had no idea that such savagery existed even though she had been their Queen for centuries.
Joost:
4. And now it becomes complecated, in case evidence will be found, it most likely will not hold in Aruban court. The defence of Joran van der Sloot has allready filed objection with the suggestion that in case evidence would be found – quote – “it would be to easy to put an additional handback with it”.
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do you really think it would make any difference ? They could be present the victims body with Joran’s DNA on it, videotape of the actual assault and crime, and Judge Smid would pull something out of his ass to exclude it. It just doesn’t make any difference. Aruba is not interested in resolving the crime. Judge Smid is part of the Dutch ‘cronysim’ which has infected the investigation and the decisions.
Yes, Americans understand how ‘cronyism’ works:
In the world outside Aruba: A friend of a friend gets you a job. or some small favor. In Aruba, your son is the last one seen with a missing person ? No Problem. You’re a judge in training and you know lots of people, including the bad guys who owe you one. It’s time to pay the piper. You arrange to get rid of all evidence, “No body No case”. The cops ? No problem, they’re friends too. Everybody knows everyone else. The judges ? No problem they’re also Dutch friends. Such a nice close knit community. Isn’t Aruba such a nice place to live ? And the weather is so much better than the Netherlands.
After all, it was just an American tourist anyways.
F**k Aruba.
Carol, good one: you said:
“Prosecutors close their case…”, Americans Open their eyes.
Watch your back Joran.
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AMERICANS OPEN YOUR EYES ….
I didn’t know 2 Visibility team members committed suicide. Do you have the article? I always thought having the visibility team looking like police was criminal. They knew tourists would not realize they weren’t speaking to police. That way they could squelch all complaints, crimes, rapes, (and enjoy a few themselves) without ever having to change the happy island image. The rate of suicides on Aruba has really got to be looked into. It is not, because everyone knows what it really is….murder. Do NOT go to Aruba. The Dutch could have done much more, but they didn’t.
the Dutch royal family is a major stockholder (not owner) of Shell.
Philips is also a major manufacturar of medical equiptment (be sure to ask before you get treatment)
Heineken..well…loads of better beer aivable (by far not the best beer).
and Patti, again…insulting our Queen has no effect but a negative.
She is not allowed to comment on daily things, so if you want to bitch go bitch to JP Balkenende (Dutch pm) he is responisble for the Queen
His department: http://www.minaz.nl (MINestery of Algemene Zaken.
Department responisble for the Antilles:
http://www.minbzk.nl
Deparment of Justice: http://www.justitie.nl
Actually #57, it may matter that Joran, Paulus, and their gang chose an AMERICAN TARGET.
You see, when you inflict the heinous criminal acts of drugging, kidnapping, gang raping, murdering, desecrating the body – and perhaps other criminal acts engaged in upon a child, whom you select because she is an American – that’s an act of TERRORISM, if I’m not mistaken.
TERRORISM … which appears to be alive and well, and being inflicted upon innocent young American girls, because they are innocent and Americans, taking place – right there in Aruba with the full approval of a man whose best buddy is Chavez, the guy who’s holding meetings with … TERRORISTS, who just so happen to hate Americans.
Imgagine, all along we thought this was – as Aruba wishes it to be perceived in one of their many lie-scenarios, as a “REGULAR CRIME”.
But nothing about WHAT they did to Natalee Holloway and her family was “regular” in its criminal activity. In fact, it appears that Natalee was selected because of her innocence, and because she was an American.
TERRORISM IS ALIVE AND WELL, AND IT APPEARS TO BE FULLY SANCTIONED AS IT GETS CARRIED OUT AGAINST AMERICANS WHO UNKNOWINGLY TRAVEL TO ARUBA, BELIEVING ARUBA WAS “SAFE” AND “FRIENDLY” TO AMERICANS.
Something has to give here, because the dots are connecting themselves without any help.
ODUBER professes his admiration for Chavez, who just happens to hold photo opps with a known terrorist who specifically hates Americans.
Natalee Holloway – a young American girl, was selected as a target for the most reprehensible, acts of criminal terrorist activity inflicted upon a tourist.
Aruba has to come up with an explanation as to how such conduct – as the criminal acts inflicted upon Natalee Holloway that were allowed to be carried out,(they knew that American tourists were being preyed upon in their tourist hotels, and other tourist attractions where drinks of Americans were being DRUGGED), and they allowed this, they allowed the criminal acts inflicted upon Natalee to be covered up, allowed all evidence to be destroyed, statements to be tampered with, searches to be tampered with, allowing a child’s defenseless body and her truth to be hidden through corrupt conduct, while depriving Natalee from being returned to her parents and the American public. Aruba must explain how government officials could both condoned and allow such heinous, criminal conduct to be executed without even so much as an attempt to stop it, or to include Natalee’s FBI in their so-called “investigation”.
Make no mistake #57 as to what this is looking like. This is terrorism against an innocent American child. And the Aruban government condoned it and allowed it to take place.
They then proceeded to engage in the most hideous acts of criminal co-conspiracy by depriving Natalee’s family of their beloved daughter’s body, and all information pertaining to her case!
When it LOOKS like a terrorist ( by the conduct demonstrated), and it ACTS like a TERRORIST, ( by the conduct demonstrated), chances are: IT’S A TERRORIST.
You are so right, #57 – the “Visibility Team” that took all the information about Natalee being reported as missing, dressed like police and acting like scoundrels, who then proceeded to not inform the police, who then claimed they were informed, who apparently were holding VERY EARLY MORNING MEETINGS WITH NONE OTHER THAN: JORAN, DEEPAK, SATISH AND PAULUS, who were all then declared as “witnesses”!!!
The smell of corruption is so foul, it reeks clear across the ocean.
This child’s voice must be heard, and her truth must be told. Natalee had a right to an investigation – something that NEVER took place!
Justice for Natalee Holloway!
Justice for her family!
#65 Pearl
so now she is a victim of terrorists?
i know that the States really like to use the whole terrorist thingie, but this is ridicules.
first) if she was a victim of terrorists we would know (they would have claimed it)
second: maybe because Aruba is visited by mostly US ppl that US girls are more aviable for these kind of nasty tricks
Dolph, didn’t you know about how they selected Natalee? Are you now claiming ignorance of the facts, Dolph?
Maybe you should check with JORAN VAN DER SLOOT AND HIS DAD, the man sitting right next to Natalee at the Excelsior Casino, the man who “went home” at the falsified statement time of 6:30 PM!
Maybe they can explain to you HOW Natalee became THE TARGET for all of the PREMEDITATED CRIMINAL ACTS THAT WERE INFLICTED UPON HER.
Dolph, are you suggesting that these criminal acts were “just” “regular crimes”?
Maybe it takes living in a country, that was hit by tourist planes used as terrorist bombs to have the ability to see and recognize devils when you see them, Dolph.
Do you actually believe that America cannot see what these savages are and what they did to this child?
OPEN YOUR EYES, DOLPH!
AMERICAS EYES ARE WIDE OPEN!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!
JUSTICE FOR HER FAMILY!
END THE TERRORIST ACTIVITY, ARUBA!
CONTAIN YOUR TERRORISTS, NOT LITTLE DEFENSELESS CHILDREN WHO ARE MURDERED WHILE TRAVELING AS TOURISTS TO YOUR COUNTRY, WHOSE TORTURED BODIES ARE THEN STOLEN, AND “CONTAINED”.
Man boobs otherwise known as Paulus van der Sloot:
No corpse, no case.
Don’t underestimate americans. A man in Texas is funding the search which will cost a minimum of 1 million dollars to find “the corpse” of “the girl.”
She has a name, it’s Natalee Holloway! She had a life!
she was targeted, maybe, possibly, likely…but not proven and it was for a sex crime
and yes those are regular crimes.
rape and murder happen on a day 2 day basis.
is that good, hell no
is that reality: yes
is that terrorism: no
and brush up on your history, Holland (btw. you know where it is on the worldmap?) had it share of terrorist attacks long before the 9/11 attack so invoking that tragic day is rather pointless
What’s wrong, Dolph?
Is Natalee’s truth getting a little too close for somebody’s comfort?
But, interesting that you admitt that Natalee Holloway was targeted for sex crimes.
However, it seems that you are attempting to suggest that your predators have no links to the terrorist activities going on in the Caribbean.
Is that how you sum things up?
And whose word should we take on your version of claims, Dolph?
Paulus Van der Sloot’s word?
Maybe Van der Straten’s word? Dompig’s word?
How about Oduber’s word?
Or maybe Joran’s word?
The list of unconscionable liars is so long in Aruba, it would be difficult to document all of them here and now.
Americans have not engaged in the deceptive, dishonest, depraved conduct in this case that the terrorists have engaged in, Dolph.
That should be plain and simple, even to your eyes.
Americans do know a devil when we see one, Dolph.
And we do indeed know what terrorists look like after tourist planes were used as terrorist bombs to kill innocent Americans – simply because they were Americans.
Those Americans were selected as targets; planning went into their murder,planning went into the terrorists conduct, much the way the terrorists plotted to take Natalee Holloway away and rape her, and then murder her, followed with the premeditative conduct involved in obstructing justice and covering up the criminal acts that were inflicted upon her…the planning that was rewarded with extra incentives if an innocent American child was chosen.
The new masquerade included predatory men posing as tourists to American tourists.
Predatory men posing as tourists at HOTELS where tourists gathered, and this being done with the full cooperation of Aruba’s police!
Predatory men posing as tourists who targeted a little defenseless girl, drugged her, so that they could then proceed to do all the wretched evil contemptuous acts they inflicted upon her while she was drugged and completely helpless.
They even included a parent – a man dressed to be a “father” posing with his son, so as to create a very false sense of safety and security.
And they lied to this child, telling her they were fellow tourists, just like she was, only they were selecting her for their hideous criminal acts – which, I believe it was Deepak referencing as “hitting the jackpot”.
Who paid the jackpot, Dolph?
Where did the proceeds from the “Jackpot” come from?
We know what terrorist devils look like, Dolph,
( based on their evil lies and evil conduct) …yes, their EVIL LIES AND EVIL CONDUCT.
The same predators who used tourist planes to bomb innocent Americans seem to offer incentives to murdering rapist kidnappers – just to TARGET YOUNG INNOCENT AMERICAN GIRLS, LIKE NATALEE HOLLOWAY.
Dolph, go ask Deepak why he was going to get “a lot of money” and why Joran had “hit the jackpot”.
Ask Oduber why the confession to the “KILLING OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY” needed to be buried.
Ask Karin Janssen why she summoned the name of “Hitler” in her big “building up of an investigation”.
Go ask Van der Straten why he was so busy trying to convince the press and all the media that Natalee “could have come through another way”, when – he knew she was never dropped off at all at her hotel, and that all the surveillance tapes proved that, as well as the fact that no “black guards” ever existed.
Go ask Van der Straten how he could then proceed to arrest two innocent black men, seven days later, who never existed on any surveillance cameras?
If it LOOKS like a TERRORIST ( based on CONDUCT), and it ACTS LIKE A TERRORIST ( based on CONDUCT), chances are: IT’S A TERRORIST.
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY.
JUSTICE FOR HER FAMILY.
Sirensong,
no I do not have the links concerning the “suicides” of the 2 visibility team security employees but as I recall they were 2 separate incidents: one was deemed suicide as having jumped from one of the roofs of the high rise hotels & the other was found on the beach sitting deceased from an overdose. Both of these occurred within the months IIRC following the never to be investigated criminal activities (corruption) on Natalee Holloway.
Peaerl (#70) … We might also ask van der Straaten what that “evidence” was that he had seen, or said he had, and on the basis of which he “knew” that Natalee was dead.
Of course, later that summer he sent out a request to neighboring nations to be on the lookout for Natalee. Quite an unfathomable move, I’d say, from someone who “knows” that she is dead.
But hey, consistency was never a strong point on Aruba.
Margaret Wever is an ancient Arubian who writes everything with the ARUBIAN slant. Why does Yahoo print what she writes. She hides behind Associated Press Writer and pretends she is an American journalist. Her family started an advertising paper in 1951 similar to Aruba Today. No real news just restaurant advertising, etc.
Fox News has been consistently running travel commercials to Aruba. So what does your Greta have to say about that?
LYNDA; 71
Actually I think they said he hung himself. If I can recall his legs were touching the ground at the time.
Another Dutch company in the USA to boycott is ING the home of the “Orange” savings account. ING is a huge $40 billion financial services company with lots of clout. CLOSE your account with them. Dump their mutual funds! They have the clout to get this whole disaster solved and settled!
Pearl.
How can I admit to anything while I wasn’t there. (just like you)
btw..the pilots of the planes that were used were Saudi nationals (you know..the big Bush friends)
second: I don’t have predators, I do not like predators.
there is a difference between a criminal and a terrorist.
and think about the numbers..if 80% of the tourists visiting Aruba is American, the chances of something happening to a American would also be 80%.
btw..please explain what a terrorist looks like and antoher thing…on 9/11 not only US citizens got killed. The whole world looked in horror that day and offered its help to the US…
a terroist wants to put fear into the hearts of its victim (so they know he/she can touch them anytime they want)
In order to do this they must make their act of terror public.
Otherwise how will any1 know that it was them who did it and who should be feared.
Juan on December 20th, 2007 5:10 pm
Fox News has been consistently running travel commercials to Aruba. So what does your Greta have to say about that?
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Haven’t seen a one of them!!! I watch quite a bit,
I run a YT BOYCOTT ARUBA CHANNEL on the web.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=driven70001
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Truthfully, the world knows what a complete
garbage pit Aruba is at this point.
Most people would rather visit their local dump
on a field trip, than go travel to that toxic
waste dump of a Natalee Holloway killing
island. -j4n