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    44 Responses to “Aruba, Natalee Holloway Disappearance, The Face of Evil, Part 5”

    1. JusticeforNatalee on October 23rd, 2007 10:37 am

      Outstanding, Freebirds and Klaas!

      Keep the pressure on and keep reminding everyone of this absolutely disgraceful travesty of justice.

    2. JusticeforNatalee on October 23rd, 2007 10:39 am

      Oh, sure, Deepak, we *really* believe that you just asked Joran how he was and what he was doing. Just girl talk, you know. Guys do that all the time. NOT!

    3. Pearl on October 23rd, 2007 11:06 am

      BEHIND THE BLACK HOLE LIES A STAR, AND HER NAME IS NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

      Scientists at NASA have been studying black holes and their properties for some time.
      Through extensive research, scientists have learned that black holes hold such gravitational force, that in affect they possess the ability to seize anything within their reach. “Nothing can escape it”. (http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/blackhole_worldbook.html)

      In looking back on the suffering inflicted upon Natalee Holloway and her family, and hearing her mother’s cries for help in one of the previous videos, one is thrown back and forth through the gnashing of time into the present, in the on-going torment and cruelty that the Aruban police and law enforcement officials have inflicted upon Natalee Holloway and her family through the blatant disregard they treated Natalee with in the absence of any investigative efforts marked by integrity.

      One might even think, that Natalee was sucked into a looming, lurking black hole in Aruba, that no one seems to want to talk about.

      The vast force of a black hole has to do with the level of energy concentrated through a single point at its center, which physicists refer to as a “singularity” – something, that is believed to be smaller than the size of an atom’s nucleus.

      What forces have been at work from May 30, 2005 through the present, that have aided in perpetuating the concentration of evil joined to one center of ‘singularity’ that it makes Aruba appear as an island of judicial massacres, – massacres that get swept into the Aruban vortex of treachery? What vast force of perversion harnessed itself to a singularity of depravity through which one Aruban law enforcement official after another sold their souls to the devil who operates the black hole of evil in Aruba?

      The black hole’s surface is referred to as the “event horizon”, where objects can only exist for a moment in time before they are literally extracted at the speed of light into the endlessness of the black hole’s cave. It’s known to be an abnormal surface. Where did the murderers of Aruba take Natalee Holloway? Why is it that neither Dutch police, prosecutors, judges, nor Aruban law enforcement officials were interested in looking into the eye of their own “event horizon”, the abnormal surface of 19 Montanja and all the putrid lying statements and deceitful conduct that led to all their diabolical forces joined together in the contempt of their consensual evil deeds?

      Ironically, the proof of a black hole lies in the bending of a light beam, and the extreme slowing of time, elements that might shed truth on the depravity surrounding the injustice suffered by Natalee Holloway and her family. For what lies beyond the black hole, that summons the force of light to be bent?

      It seems, that the gravitational field surrounding a star holds the power of force that can “change the paths of light rays in space-time from what they would have been had the star not been present.” Perhaps the forces at work in the Natalee Holloway case that seek to raise the plight of her truth and her suffering, found in the bravery of her family, can be compared to that of a brilliant star – the same brilliant star that was Natalee, and the beauty of her powerful force that rests upon her light of truth, summoning truth back to where she lies while the pull of the black hole seeks to bury not only this precious child, but the power of the painful torment and cruelty she suffered at the hands of her murderers, and all the forces of evil in Aruba who conspired with them to obstruct her justice.

      NASA describes the interplay between the gravitational forces that summon the return of light to a star, and the forces of gravitational pull that drag matter through the black hole, in words worth reflecting on in the Natalee Holloway case:

      “Specifically, the path of the light is bent slightly inward toward the surface of the star. . As a star contracts, the gravitational field at its surface gets stronger, thus bending the light more. This makes it more and more difficult for light from the star to escape… Eventually, if the star shrinks to a certain critical radius, the gravitational field at the surface becomes so strong that the path of the light is bent so severely inward so that it returns to the star itself. The light can no longer escape.”

      The evil of Paulus Van der Sloot, and his son, Joran, and their co-conspirators will not bend the force of light, the power of truth that Natalee summons back to herself. Only Natalee’s truth can summon the return of light to bend upon her pathway, leading to her painful truths.
      There can be no erasing of this child – as though, she never existed, as though – like a star, she was somehow never seen, that her light had never shone, as though – she were never present.

      The evil forces lurking about in Aruba, that seek to halt time, to re-direct the light, to bury the truth, to erase all traces of Natalee Holloway – will have no power over that of justice, which summons Natalee’s truth to be returned to her. Her cries to be set free can be heard beneath the lies in all their statements, beneath the infected corruption of men and women lacking conscience and integrity.
      Natalee’s truth will bend the very paths through which her painful light must travel, in order to return unto herself – the very painful truth that only she can claim and carry.

      She summons justice and bends the paths of light to where they must lay bare, the darkest corners of barbaric criminals in Aruba, who feed on goodness, who crush the voice of truth, who seek to bury the island of Aruba in the darkness of their evil deeds. They will not bend this child’s light nor cause her light to escape from the path that summons it to her truth! They will not stop the path of truth, returning to Natalee, – what has always rightfully been hers from the moment they colluded to obstruct her voice: the light of Natalee’s truth will not succumb to Aruba’s black hole. The light of Natalee’s truth will be returned to her, returned to the brilliance she brought to this earth, the handprint of her “star”, which is all that encompasses her goodness, her kindness, and the value she brought into this world.

      Natalee’s truth will be returned to her, and the corruption and evil in Aruba will be revealed for all the world to see. Behind the black hole of Aruba lies a star, and her name is: NATALEE HOLLOWAY! “The light cannot escape the star!”

      Natalee’s truth will be told!
      Set this child free, Aruba!

      Find your voice and claim this child’s right to come home!

      Justice for Natalee Holloway!

    4. The Boycott of Aruba Roll's On!!! on October 23rd, 2007 11:20 am

      Another face of evil is Arlene Shipper.Remeber when she said on TV.That Natalee was rumored to be found in Mexico lol.That island is evil and stupid.

    5. JusticeforNatalee on October 23rd, 2007 12:20 pm

      Beth has asked us to never give up on truth and justice for Natalee.

      Beth, don’t worry. We stand by you with unwavering support for as long as it takes.

    6. Miss-Underestimated on October 23rd, 2007 12:25 pm

      As always, excellent job.

      Pearl great post, your plight to find the truth is always on target.

      About Arlene, we can also add Julia; the numerous untruths that see have crossed her lips.

      Truth always has a way of coming out. Sometimes it just takes one person, one person who will someday realize how incredibly EVIL this has been to Natalee and her family.

      One person who may come upon an illness that makes them realize they may in deed meet their maker. One person who will realize the legacy they may leave for their family. One person who someday may decide they never wanted to be part of this EVIL crime against Natalee, and will come forward. One person who will be propelled to tell what they know, in the name of TRUTH.

      Aruba, all it takes is one person, who has decided I no longer what this dirt on their hands.
      Even, if I just know and did not do anything.

      It’s called having a conscience, the ability to know right from wrong.

    7. Richard on October 23rd, 2007 12:47 pm

      Has anyone from Aruba ever said anything that was sensible, or even decent, in Natalee’s case?

      (Jossy Mansur excepted.)

      Too bad our government doesn’t seem to think that upholding the interests of an American missing abroad is worthwhile.

    8. Vicki on October 23rd, 2007 1:04 pm

      Pearl, thank you….

    9. brie on October 23rd, 2007 1:08 pm

      There are many faces of evil on the island of Aruba.

      Evil thoughts are as serious as evil actions and Joran has displayed both. The devil himself. He looks like one too! Charles Manson look alike!

      Everyday is Halloween at the Sloot’s house. A bunch of freakin’ spooks! A walking, living poltergeist! No, Joran’s not wearing a costume, he always looks that! And Anita dresses like a wanna-be female vampire!

    10. brie on October 23rd, 2007 1:10 pm

      Someone should tee-pee the Sloot spook house in black toilet paper for Halloween.

    11. brie on October 23rd, 2007 1:17 pm

      Where do you get black toilet paper, well, Hmmmm, I guess you use white and throw —- on it!

    12. Carpe Noctem on October 23rd, 2007 1:25 pm

      Screw them not lightly!

      For it is today, that I screw them with more

      verve, vim, and vigor than yesterday!

      …and I’m here to tell ya, brudda…

      DAT IS DE TRUTH.

      Justice for my girl Natalee,

      & her lovely family!

      Aruba, it is in your ear,

      I primarily ask ye to stick it.

      -j4n

      http://tinyurl.com/23fdhX

      Another Dompig relative located
      to add to the file.

      http://tinyurl.com/28qX4z

    13. Pearl on October 23rd, 2007 1:46 pm

      Keep up the great work, Vicki!
      Beth is counting on you!
      Honor Natalee’s truth, Vicki, by claiming her right to be heard!

      Keep writing!

      Keep up the great work, Miss U and J4N!
      Your dedication to Natalee’s truth will help to bring her home!
      Honor Natalee’s voice, by honoring her truth!
      WE ARE STANDING BY NATALEE’S SIDE!
      WE ARE STANDING BY BETH’S SIDE!
      WE WILL NOT ABANDON THIS CHILD!

      Keep up those videos, Carpe!
      This child smiles upon the love that she is showered with from hearts who see how precious she is, how mighty her truth is, how precious her cries for justice are – and how much her right to come home matters to her family, and to us all.

      Keep up the great work Brie, and J4N!
      Let this child’s voice rise up within your hearts, that her cries for justice might be heard across the world!

      Break the chains that hold hostage this precious daughter from Alabama!
      Break the chains that hold hostage, an American citizen named NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

      SET NATALEE FREE, ARUBA!
      CONTAIN YOUR MURDERERS, ARUBA!
      NOT THE VICTIM!

      Honor this child by honoring her right to have her truth told, her voice heard, her right to justice served!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

    14. Richard on October 23rd, 2007 1:55 pm

      I wonder if Halloween is observed on Aruba?

      If so, I imagine the van der Sloots would be fearful of answering knocks on their door.

      Fearful of people in both this world and, possibly, others ….

      Come to think of it, that would be about the only justification I can think of for violating our pledge to boycott Aruba … showing up at their house demand ‘trick or treat.’ Once the door was opened, if they dared open it ….

      Well, I’d better not put down any more of what I’d like to see happen. There and at some other places on that island.

    15. Allan on October 23rd, 2007 2:02 pm

      Aruba is an island of sick secrets, murderers, rapists, and taking advantage of girls that are in distress. What gets me is why don’t they just own up to what they did. Its no secret and parents wanting to protect those kids, don’t know who is the worse.

      Our government doesn’t care about citizens anywhere, just collecting more taxes and their self interests.
      Also some enjoy their perverted interests too.

      Is their not one person in government that gives a
      damn?

      My God, USA government are you no more interested in a child’s murder than Aruba?

    16. Pearl on October 23rd, 2007 2:04 pm

      Keep up the dedication, Richard!

      Monkeys stand together with Beth in LOVING NATALEE!

    17. Vicki on October 23rd, 2007 2:41 pm

      Thank you Pearl, you also…I wish you would send what you wrote to the birmingham newspaper……they may print it….

    18. brie on October 23rd, 2007 5:22 pm

      #13…Dear Loving and Sweet Pearl,

      Your words, “HONOR THIS CHILD BY HONORING HER RIGHT TO HAVE HER TRUTH TOLD, HER VOICE HEARD, HER RIGHT TO JUSTICE SERVED”!

      Those just might become very famous words!

    19. brie on October 23rd, 2007 6:05 pm

      Can we find the answer, why were the known suspects in the police station the morning of May 30th?

    20. Pearl on October 23rd, 2007 6:12 pm

      Keep writing Brie!
      Keep raising her voice up, until the cruelty surrounding that wall of deceitful silence comes tumbling down.

      Keep writing you beautiful Monkeys!

      ARUBA! SET THE MURDER VICTIM FREE!

      SET THE HOSTAGE, NATALEE HOLLOWAY FREE FROM THE CONTAINMENT YOU ALLOWED TO BE IMPOSED UPON HER AND HER BEAUTIFUL FAMILY!

      CONTAIN YOUR MURDERERS, ARUBA NOT THIS CHILD!

      NATALEE NEEDS TO COME HOME!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!

    21. Maggie on October 23rd, 2007 9:36 pm

      Sure they have Halloween in Aruba. We’ve been watching it for over 2 years. People all dressed up like govt. officials and cops pretending to try and solve Natalee’s case, when they have known since June of 2005 what happened to her. People dressed up as tourist spokespeople pretending Aruba is one big safe happy place with no crime, lying about victims of crime, so they can line their pockets with more American’s dollars. That is all they care about anyway is the dollars. People who work for newspapers, pretending to want justice for Natalee while going to any length to print made up stories about the victims. The VDS, Kalpoes and friends, who over 2 years, have told 2000000000000000000 dif versions of the truth and still don’t have one story that matches about that night. Still no matching story how Joran got home. What lies behind their masks in their souls and hearts is much scarier and uglier than any Halloween mask anyone could purchase.

    22. Pearl on October 23rd, 2007 10:57 pm

      You said it, Maggie.

      “What lies behind their masks in their souls and hearts is much scarier and uglier than any Halloween mask anyone could purchase.”

      Everyday in Aruba, is another day for the lifeless shells of masked murderers and liars, the destroyers of human rights and the precious sanctity of a child’s life, who step into their fake clothes, their fake badges, their fake Judas kisses of “concern” where they tell a grieving mother to her face “We are doing everything possible to find your daugher”, while they knife her in the heart, over and over in those very revealing ways – like, never bothering to walk ten feet to open a car door and look inside,or run some forensics on the car, and at the house, or go and conduct a search and seize property at THE HOUSE sitting right there in their midst, or at the very least, interrogate the liars, rather than conduct criminal conspiracy meetings with them.

      What kind of cruelty marks such savage and corrupt conduct?

      Only that of real life ghouls, real life predators, real life monsters, real life witches,
      real life devils straight from hell, whose version of “you are like family to us” – is to slander a little girl, and allow predators to gang up on her, gang rape her, drug her, beat her, murder her, and then savagely and ruthlessly hide her bodily remains from her grieving, suffering family, her heart broken mother, her tormented father.

      That sums up the “Everyday is Halloween in Aruba” mentality, where every day is another day from hell, where “trickery” from the Father of ALL LIES himself, Mr. “Containment with the dead” is
      summed up with his greeting to the innocent tourist children that he and his son prey upon with their “No corpse, no case” Aruba brand of “hospitality” that they invoke, as they create a false sense of ‘safety’ for the unknowing, unsuspecting CHILDREN that they eventually savagely devour.

      TAKE OFF YOUR MASKS ARUBA!
      THE WHOLE WORLD NOW SEES WHAT YOU ARE!

      END THE TORTURE AND TORMENT OF NATALEE AND HER FAMILY!

      RELEASE THE VICTIM, NATALEE FROM THE “CONTAINMENT” YOU ALLOWED PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT AND HIS CO-CONSPIRATORS TO INFLICT UPON HER!

      CONTAIN YOUR MURDERERS, ARUBA!
      NOT THE VICTIM!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

      FIND A CONSCIENCE, ARUBA.
      FIND INTEGRITY AND HONOR.
      SET NATALEE HOLLOWAY FREE!

    23. molly in houston on October 24th, 2007 12:49 am

      Haven’t posted in a long time. Still waiting for Justice for Natalee. Would like to hear more about Equusearch’s plans for search of the ocean. I emailed them about donating specifically for this search and did not get an answer.

    24. Patti on October 24th, 2007 1:12 am

      Pearl:

      No body does it better.

      We are all stars bending to make our light, striving to do right by our consciences and our spiritual guides but what makes Natalee so special to the masses is that she called on the only thing that could have helped her and now we have raised our voices to him, as well.

      The Black Hole that is Aruba is powerless against the power of her God, the Alpha and the Omega. The birds will cry, the sea will weap and the very bones of those before her will show us the way.

      How funny, now, they are saying that it is “grave robbers” who inflict the pain upon the masses. But, we know that the Abariginies are all but gone. Their men have been either killed or sent to prison for crimes they didn’t commit… their women either taken as wives or made to work in their kitchens. So who would be practicing this voodoo that the museum would like us to believe is the reason for the vast amount of mutation that is evident in these corpses that we find?

      The Nation of Arawak does not practice Voodoo, although, they have their gods and readily practice spiritism. It is the desire to rob one of their spirit, their strength and their virtue that the has made the Arawak so mighty… not some shaking of a doll.

      The black hole it is,

      for it will totally consume you.

      .

      Boycott! Aruba

    25. Pearl on October 24th, 2007 10:03 am

      Weep for this child, and all that she suffered.
      Weep for the loss that crushes her mother’s heart.
      Weep for the depth of sadness that imprisons her father’s soul, her family’s spirit.
      Weep for all that this precious, beautiful, outstanding child might have been!

      Step into the light of Natalee’s truth and give witness to the hope she bears: that no child will ever again suffer, what this child has suffered all alone through such savagery and cruelty, at the hands of unscrupulous men and women.

      Step into the hope of Natalee’s truth, a hope that summons our conscience to rise up through her voice that summons us to integrity, honor, justice, truth and courage!

      Dear Beth, do not be afraid.
      Let your heart rest upon our shoulders.
      Know that we are with you through this painful, vicious cruelty that you and all your loved ones continue to suffer and endure.

      We are with you Beth: united in LOVING NATALEE.

    26. JusticeforNatalee on October 24th, 2007 11:50 am

      “Sure they have Halloween in Aruba. We’ve been watching it for over 2 years. People all dressed up like govt. officials and cops pretending to try and solve Natalee’s case…”

      Maggie–so true, so true!

    27. Pearl on October 24th, 2007 12:38 pm

      Maggie is a corker, J4N!

      She nailed it, especially the part about “dressed up like government officials and cops pretending to …solve Natalee’s case…”.

      Or, as you said, J4N *(I think it was you!)- they can sell their “we are doing everything possible” garbage, and “Dutch parlimentary officials are really upset” balogna for the next Dutch auction!

      I think Natalee’s family has just about had enough of the “speeches” and “promises”.
      Action, justice, integrity and truth is all that is needed.

      That’s all that was ever needed.

      But instead, we got exactly what Maggie said: “Aruban government officials and cops pretending to try to solve Natalee’s case.”

      In America, we call that: OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND INTENT TO COMMIT CRIMINAL ACTS.

      Keep writing, J4N.

      Help bring home Natalee’s truth for her family.

      Aruba: take off your costumes, your masks, and shed your cloak of corruption!

      SET THIS CHILD FREE!

      Contain your murdering rapists, not the victim.

      It’s time for Natalee Holloway to come home!!!
      Her mother has waited through two years of agony and torture.
      Set this child free!
      The murderers of Natalee have already robbed her mother of one last embrace with her beautiful daughter.
      How much more savagery will you inflict on a tourist and her family?

      End the savagery, Aruba.
      Contain your murderers and criminals, not Natalee – the victim!

      Set this child free from the savagery and cruelty that has defined the hearts of Aruba’s judiciary, their law enforcement and their government officials whose lack of integrity, and lack of justice is measured by their intent to continue in this charade of “trying to solve” what was already solved within THREE HOURS of Beth’s arrival to that island where criminal treachery reigns, and where devils were condoned for their evil in stealing Beth’s beloved daughter away forever.

      Justice for Natalee Holloway!

    28. richard on October 24th, 2007 12:55 pm

      Then the Aruban saying for Halloween must be:

      Trick … or trick.

    29. Patti on October 24th, 2007 4:22 pm

      Pearl:

      I agree… By the third day, the case of

      kidnapping should have been solved and Natalee

      should have been on a plane heading home.

      .

      If not for the corruption.

    30. Maggie on October 24th, 2007 7:54 pm

      Just one example of the trick or trick. Remember last year when Dompig claims that someone called someone else and reported that Natalee was buried twice near the lighthouse and he called it a credible tip. Not even talking directly with the person himself or knowing if it was just a prank phone call. That was in January 2006. He went on numerous shows talking about it. In March 2006 they finally went and searched the area after he announced over and over they were going to. Now, wouldn’t you block that area off if you sincerly thought it was a crime scene and not tell anyone until you searched? Why announce it for 2 months. 3 more wasted months the FBI, Interpol, Scotland Yard or anyone who was serious about solving this case could’ve been involved. 3 more months of wasted time and it was just a big joke and still Natalee’s family is watching and waiting.

      ARUBA (Crime Library) – For a missing person and probable murder case that is almost a year old, it seems like there is news almost on a daily basis. Recently, several Dutch legal experts were openly critical of the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway conducted by Aruba’s Deputy Chief of Police Gerold Dompig. Dompig was removed from the case last week. Adolpho Richardson replaced him as the leader of the investigation.

      Professor of criminal law Menno Dolman told the Dutch GDP news agency that he could not comprehend why there was no immediate search for Natalee after her disappearance. In a translated summary of various Dutch papers that appeared on the missing persons blog Scared Monkeys, another expert, law psychologist Peter van Koppen told reporters that it was “very peculiar that it was only after Dompig got an anonymous tip about a possible location of Natalee’s body that police began to search for her. “Usually, the area gets cordoned off immediately, in order to dig and obtain samples.

      http://origin-www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0406/1102_natalee_holloway.html

    31. Maggie on October 24th, 2007 8:01 pm

      Remember the month and a half prior to the above when Arlene Shippers and Steve Cohen said the boys were going to be questioned over Christmas break. Instead of going in and questioning suspects like normal cops whenever, they were going to let Joran come home for Christmas break and then question him. Meanwhile announcing it on tv over and over to get the family’s hopes up. Arlene said, they were preparing the questions they were going to ask them and carefully planning what to ask. Another month and a half of wasted time. On Christmas break, they came out and said sorry, they wouldn’t come in and Cohen and Shippers knew all along, they couldn’t be brought in unless they had something new. More of their tricks and stupidity to pretend to be doing something. 4 and a half wasted months some who were serious could’ve been on this case, but then they already had it solved in June 2005. No body, no case.

    32. Maggie on October 24th, 2007 8:17 pm

      Another Halloween story from Aruba. Remember when these 2 guards were arrested, Beth and the police had already watched the Holiday Inn tape to see Natalee didn’t return to the Holiday Inn and so no black guards could’ve got her out front. Also, Joran used this story the night after Natalee went missing when the cops showed up, so the only way anyone sat around with Paulus and family to make this story up was before it was known publicly that Natalee was missing.

      He said a story being made up about dropping the girl of at a Holiday Inn, was all something being made up. He, and the Dutch guy, and the Dutch guy’s father, they sit and made up the story.

      VAN SUSTEREN: The father, too?

      JOHN: All of them. They made up…

      VAN SUSTEREN: Did he specifically say – Deepak specifically say to you the father was part of that?

      JOHN: Deepak told me that he and the family sit down and they made up the story.

      VAN SUSTEREN: So family and not father?

      JOHN: Well, I don’t know who the family consists of. But I know the father was involved, according to him. They made up the story, and they say that they didn’t drop the girl off, because they said they would give the police something to (INAUDIBLE) when somebody is missing in Aruba, they would find them a few days later by a crack house or with some beach bum or something.

      So they made it up. But then, when push come to shove, and nothing was going on, he decided to tell his brother, “We’re going to tell the truth and say exactly what took place,” because he – I guess that much, he, by that time, he and the Dutch guy were saying different stories, so something wasn’t going right.

      VAN SUSTEREN: But under the now story, which is that they dropped the Dutch teen and Natalee off at the beach, Deepak and Satish hadn’t done anything wrong. So why did they need a cover story?

      JOHN: Well, I don’t know. I think these people, they have a plot together. He, as you can see (INAUDIBLE) so they, together with the Dutch guy, decide, “Maybe we can plan something,” because they were together – they left the nightclub together. They were together.

      The wouldn’t say what happened with the girl, if he had fought with the girl. But they said they weren’t – he told me they went to the California lighthouse. On their way back, they dropped the Dutch guy with Natalee close to the Marriott Hotel. He and his brother, Deepak, they went home.

      VAN SUSTEREN: How certain are you that that your memory is correct that the family or the father was involved in creating this cover-up story?

      JOHN: Well, he told me – he, all of them, sit and make up the story. He, Dutch guy, and the family. He told me they made up a story that they said they dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn. She was talking to a black guy, security guard specific, dressed in black pants, black top.

      VAN SUSTEREN: So what percentage certain are you that he said family or father that was involved in this?

      JOHN: He said family.

      VAN SUSTEREN: So you’re certain?

      JOHN: I’m certain.

      JOHN: No, he was only stressed thing – he was only stressing that we would be out very soon, me, and he, and my friend who was locked up, and his brother. He was saying that, “We will be out very soon, and the Dutch guy he knew would remain in custody.”

      VAN SUSTEREN: He thought the Dutch guy would remain in custody?

      JOHN: Yes, he said, “We would be out soon,” but he told me the Dutch guy will remain in custody because he know he was the last – they dropped him off with the girl at the Marriott. And I think he’s holding back something, the guy (INAUDIBLE) the father made up the story. He should know what took place.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Did he say why he was willing to make up the story?

      JOHN: Well, I guess they wanted (INAUDIBLE) maybe the Dutch guy have some power on them, they all friends, and the family stick and talk and say, “We’re going to stick to that, and that’s it,” you know? Trade in some black guy, scapegoat, lock him up, I guess so.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Police ever apologize?

      JOHN: Sorry?

      VAN SUSTEREN: Did the police apologize?

      JOHN: No.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Did the government of Aruba (search), anyone from the justice ministry, anybody like that apologize?

      JOHN: Not yet, no. No one.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think you’ll ever get an apology?

      JOHN: I don’t think so. I don’t need their apology anymore, anyway.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Anything else you’d like to say?

      JOHN: Well, like I said before, the justice system, the detectives, they’re all fools. They have to go to back to school. And they were used, like, a scapegoat, use, like, a black person in society to cover their mess.

      So don’t ever try it again with nobody, because they know we are innocent. And let justice prevail. And we know we will find the right person.

      http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161044,00.html

    33. Pearl on October 24th, 2007 8:33 pm

      Patti, it took Beth about THREE HOURS…to identify the three kidnappers, get the address of Joran, and indentification of Deepak’s car.

      Three hours. And consider this: Beth didn’t arrive on that island until about 11 PM at night.
      So, Van der Straten had a full day to do what Beth accomplished in THREE HOURS.
      But, I think Van der Straten was “busy” with some other big matters that he was personally attending to that day.

      And just think: Karin Janssen couldn’t pick up a pen and write out a search warrent, CORRECTLY, for – what? TWO YEARS?

      That sums up where the Dutch, Van der Straten and Karin Janssen stand on “foreign” matters concerning justice and the violations of a tourist – American child’s human rights.

      The level of corruption is so disgusting and disgraceful; you have to wonder how Karin Janssen and that corrupt Van der Straten put their heads on their pillows every night.

      There is a moral imperative for the business community in particular, to unite together and demand justice be served to this victimized child and her family.

      And until Arubans find it in their hearts to become interested in justice, they will be dealing with the ramifications of what their own ministers of greed, perversion and corruption brought upon themselves for a very long time.

      Natalee needs to come home to her family.
      Justice needs to be served.
      Natalee’s voice must be heard.
      Natalee’s truth must be told.

      It really very simple and crystal clear.

      Three hours is all it took for Beth.
      Look how depraved Aruba’s response is to her suffering and to the cruelty and brutality inflicted upon her daughter! We are now approaching soon… three years.

      Justice for Natalee Holloway!

      END THE CORRUPTION AND DEPRAVITY, ARUBA!

      End your disgrace and your shame.
      Honor this child’s truth by setting her free from the containment you allowed Paulus Van der Sloot to inflict upon her and the suffering you allowed her mother and father to suffer through.

      End this brutal cruelty to this child and her family!

      Justice for Natalee Holloway.

    34. yoyo muffintop on October 24th, 2007 10:04 pm

      problem is pearl, you have zero evidence of kidnapping/cruelty/brutality against Natalee.

      If you do, please let someone know.

      just curious – why do you keep saying “child” when you know Natalee was an adult?

    35. yoyo muffintop on October 24th, 2007 10:39 pm

      I thought it was AVDS that described Natalee’s underwear/etc in that Beth/Greta/VDS meeting? At least that’s what’s been repeated over and over again by many posters…People saying she described it so she must have seen it, etc…
      That turns out to be false – it was not AVDS but Beth herself.

      pg 148 Beth’s book:
      Now it’s my turn. I have no intention of matching her good-boy remarks with good-girl comments. And cut to the chase. Graphically repeating the very words said by their son a couple of weeks ago in his statements made on June 9, 10, and 13. The vile account that was read to me in the attorney general’s office. The sexually explicit words used by Joran to describe what he did to Natalee. Calmer than I have ever been in my whole life and without blinking, I tell them which fingers he said he used. Where he said he put them. How their son described my daughter’s pubic area, her underwear. How Joran said she was falling asleep and waking up, falling asleep and waking up. I tell them of his conflicting stories of what happened, the different places he said it happened. Little beads of sweat form across Paulus’s brow and forehead.

    36. Pearl on October 25th, 2007 1:23 am

      No evidence, yoyo?

      Must have been some heavy sweat to draw you out again.

      What was Joran, yoyo? An “honors” student?!!!!!!

      And Deepak, the guy who can’t ‘splain his CASH FLOW and BANK ACCOUNTS? What’s he? A hard working “business man”? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      And your question of the day is: Why do I keep calling Natalee a child?
      Because that’s what she is, but then … you need for everyone to think of her that “AHATA-ALE SPIN” way, don’t you?

      You think you’ll get your lies to stick the way all the other lies got blown out of the water?

      Do you think you can turn an innocent child into a drunken-drugged out, promiscuous party girl, yoyo, just because that’s what the lying murderers need for her to become in their desperate attempts to diminish the brutality of the human rights violations they savagely inflicted upon her?

      Is THAT your plan?

      And let’s see: Paulus.

      What’s he, yoyo?
      “Father of the year”? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      “THE FATHER MADE UP THE STORY”…or didn’t you hear?

      You know: THE HOLIDAY INN LIE, that blew the “we dropped her off at the Holiday Inn where she was approached by two black guys – LIE” – right out of the water!

      But, what are you calling THAT LIE, that PAULUS HELPED TO INVENT?

      Did Paulus invent the barbaric slander of calling Natalee the racist, as he sat there with his son, framing two innocent BLACK guards, yoyo? !!!
      Paulus – the man who helps three men falsely accuse TWO BLACK MEN, who now wants everyone to think of the MURDERED CHILD – as the racist.
      I thought depravity couldn’t be any more evil, until I learned that PAULUS helped create the HOLIDAY INN LIES!!!

      So what are you calling Paulus’ participation in FALSELY accusing TWO INNOCENT BLACK MEN?
      Is that getting spun into “Parental Guidance” !!!

      That’s a very interesting dictionary that you use there YOYO. But you want to know why the VICTIM is a child!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Gee, why don’t you ask all the other victims, why CHILDREN are the TARGETS of your predators, yoyo?

      Maybe your predators can help you find the answer as to why THEY CHOOSE CHILDREN FOR THEIR TARGETS.

      Maybe your predatory murderers can help you with understanding WHY they choose CHILDREN as their victims. Did you think to ask them?

      WHEN ARE THE CHILDREN CHOSEN AS VICTIMS, YOYO?
      THE CHILDREN – WHOM YOUR PREDATORS ATTACK…
      WHEN ARE THEY CHOSEN?

      DO THEY GET CHOSEN AT THE CASINO?
      DO THEY GET CHOSEN AT C AND C’S?
      OR EARLIER…. YOU KNOW…AT THE OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE JORAN, THE “HOLIDAY INN TOURIST”, “HANGS” WITH HIS CO-CONSPIRATORS?

      WHY DO THE PREDATORS SELECT CHILDREN, YOYO?

      TELL US WHY CHILDREN ARE THE TARGETS!
      TELL US WHY THEY DRUG THE CHILDREN!
      TELL US WHY THEY KIDNAPP THEM AND GANG RAPE THEM.
      TELL US HOW THEY MURDERED NATALEE AND WHERE THEY PUT HER.

      TELL US WHY ARUBA’S VERSION OF “HOSPITALITY” IS TO HAVE THREE MEN GANG UP ON A LITTLE GIRL, DRUG HER, AND BRUTALLY RAPE HER, ONLY TO THEN MURDER HER?

      TELL US WHY JORAN NEEDED TO CHANGE HIS CONFESSION.
      TELL US WHY PAULUS NEEDED TO CHANGE HIS “PICK UP” TIME.
      TELL US WHY DEEPAK NEEDED TO KEEP SATISH “OUT OF IT”.
      TELL US WHY SATISH CAN’T KEEP THE DETAILS STRAIGHT.
      TELL US WHY JORAN’S STATEMENTS HAD TO BE CHANGED AND DESTROYED SO MANY TIMES.

      Must be some heavy sweating going on, that you got drawn out again.

      So, what drew you out, yoyo?

      Was it the mention of the MONDAY MORNING MEETING? !!!!!!

      TELL US WHY PAULUS, JORAN, DEEPAK AND SATISH NEEDED TO HAVE A MONDAY MORNING MEETING!
      BRIE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
      SO WOULD THE REST OF US!

      I can just hear Art Wood right now, and you know what, yoyo?

      I think he’s saying to you, and Joran and Paulus and all your pals: BITE ME.

      NO EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Is that wishful thinking on your part, yoyo?

      ARE YOU SERIOUS? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Tell that to Karin Janssen and the FBI.

      Come to think of it …
      You were supposed to contact them and get back to us, remember? What happened YOYO? You afraid of contacting the FBI?

      Are you concerned about the evidence surrounding Joran’s description of Natalee’s underwear?

      CONTACT THE FBI WITH YOUR CONCERNS.
      Here’s the number – AGAIN:(205) 326-6166

      Tell them about all your concerns about Natalee’s underwear descriptions that were made by Joran, the sociopath.

      Janssen says there IS EVIDENCE, or didn’t you hear the latest, yoyo?

      They must not be keeping you in on the ‘spin’.
      Listen to O’Reilly, maybe he can help you with your spin problem.

      Do tell the father of the year that everybody knows that HE MADE UP THE “STORY”.

      Oh, and yoyo…

      Word is: KEEP THE BUCKETS AND THE MOPPING RAG REAL HANDY.

    37. yoyo muffintop on October 25th, 2007 5:31 pm

      soooooo pearl…where the evidence again? I tried to find some in that 5000 word diatribe but I just couldn’t.

      Here is your reasoning for calling her a child: “Why do I keep calling Natalee a child? Because that’s what she is”. Well that makes sense.

      Looks like you’re the one spinnin’ out of control.

      and btw – since you just admitted above that the FBI has the evidence of kidnapping/cruelty/brutality (aka kidnap/rape/murder according to you) why haven’t they given the family all of it or done anything about it??

      Lots of words, nothing said. In the west we call that a blowhard.

    38. Maggie on October 25th, 2007 6:41 pm

      Straight from Webster’s, so yes I do believe Natalee can be classified as a child.

      Main Entry: child
      Pronunciation: \?ch?(-?)ld\
      Function: noun
      Inflected Form(s): plural chil·dren \?chil-dr?n, -d?rn\
      Usage: often attributive
      Etymology: Middle English, from Old English cild; akin to Gothic kilthei womb, and perhaps to Sanskrit jat?hara belly
      Date: before 12th century
      1 a: an unborn or recently born person bdialect : a female infant
      2 a: a young person especially between infancy and youth b: a childlike or childish person c: a person not yet of age
      3usually childe \?ch?(-?)ld\ archaic : a youth of noble birth
      4 a: a son or daughter of human parents b: descendant
      5: one strongly influenced by another or by a place or state of affairs
      6: product, result
      — child·less \?ch?(-?)l(d)-l?s\ adjective

      As for nooo evidence why were suspects arrested under the heading of heavy battery, murder, kidnapping? Remember they only can be arrested on very strong suspicions according to Arlene Shippers. Why have they been under suspicions for 2 years if there is no evidence? And no Beth isn’t the one who just described about the underwear. She and the others in her group heard Joran talking about graphic sexual details and what took place that night along with Greta when she was the VDS’s house also. Greta said she wanted to crawl under the table. It’s obvious Natalee was kidnapped. She would never leave her family and not say where she was going. She couldn’t even leave the island without a passport. Anyone seen her in Aruba since she left with those 3? I think not. No one even saw your pantless man on the beach that night.

      This might be normal behaviour in your neighborhood with 3 guys and the father, it sure isn’t in mine. Who makes up lies about why someone is missing before it’s even known she’s missing, unless they were involved in it?

      Why call Pearl names?

    39. yoyo muffintop on October 25th, 2007 8:05 pm

      Maggie – Why were the Duke rape case guys arrested and charged with rape? The list could go on and on…

      are you saying Natalee can be called a child because she’s “a son or daughter of human parents”? Come on…that’s silly. You’re smarter than that. The rest don’t qualify.

      And are you disputing what’s in Beth’s Book? She specifically said SHE was the one describing the underwear, not AVDS. Greta crawling under the table would have been from Beth’s own words, not AVDS’s. Are you serious – you cannot even admit that Greta was bs-ing that? Again…come on.

    40. Maggie on October 25th, 2007 9:23 pm

      According to “A Current Affair” reporter HARRIS FAULKNER, at one point in the interview Joran put his backpack on the ground and said “there is no need for me to run, let me just talk.” Current Murder Suspect PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT showed up during the interview 20 minutes into it’ After the interview he stated he did not want the “A Current Affair” people to leave until he was able to see the tape of the interview. The “A Current Affair” people did not allow Current Murder Suspect PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT to see the tape.

      On 9-26 while viewing the Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT ’s 9-26 “A Current Affair” interview during which he denies anyone had sex with NATALEE was being discussed by FOX News GRETA VAN SUSTEREN and BETH, FOX News GRETA VAN SUSTEREN stated, “It’s also, as I recall, when you and I sat down with Joran’s parents [6-21], I remember you and Joran’s mother having a discussion about what Joran said about his sexual activity with Natalee, which is in stark contrast to this, as well.” FOX News GRETA VAN SUSTEREN stated that in the June 21, 2005 un-recorded meeting between BETH, GRETA, Former Suspect PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT , and ANITA VAN DER SLOOT inside the Suspects SLOOT’s home, that ANITA VAN DER SLOOT admitted to BETH and GRETA that before NATALEE disappeared, his parents made Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT regularly meet with a psychologist to try and learn to control his repeated public and private demonstrations of anger.

      (now a witness) SUSTEREN further stated that in the same June 21, 2005 meeting, ANITA VAN DER SLOOT detailed very graphically to (for?!!) BETH and GRETA the sexual acts that Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT admitted to his mother that he committed against NATALEE (while, as even Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT has admitted vocally and in writing, NATALEE was slipping in and out of consciousness).
      GRETA also stated that while listening to ANITA graphically detail the sexual acts that Prime Murder Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT admitted to his mother that he had committed against a barely conscious NATALEE, GRETA personally felt like she wanted to crawl under the table and hide.

      http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline2005_09.html

      As for the child statement, I stand by it. Just as ones in Aruba referred to the 3 suspects as boys.

    41. Maggie on October 25th, 2007 9:29 pm

      Natalee had the innocence of a child.

    42. Maggie on October 25th, 2007 9:38 pm

      Oops I will finish..

      The Duke Lacrosse case has nothing to do with Natalee’s case. Did any of the people accused in the Duke Lacrosse case describe graphic sex to the cops and say the woman fell and hit her head and then frame 2 innocent men for her disappearance? No

      Did they lie about her condition? No

      Did the father instruct and hire lawyers and tell them no body, no case? No

      Did they all give conflicting statements about what happened that night? No

      Did the police announce a confession and then recant it ? No

      There is no comparision between these 2 cases. Everyone who has been on this case has kept those 3 as the main suspects for 2 and a half years. Where did Steve Cohen get his info 2 of the men had sex with Natalee and he expected them to be charged with rape and murder?

      None of them including the father has a fitting time lime to what they say happened or how Joran got home. How could Natalee be very drunk and not drunk? Did Joran walk home barefoot, Paulus picked him up, Deepak picked him up or Satish picked him up. Seriously if Satish took him home, why would Joran send an email that says I’m home now. Duh!

    43. yoyo muffintop on October 25th, 2007 10:00 pm

      Maggie #41 – what the heck does that mean?

      In reference to #40 – you now know Greta lied about that. Thanks and good find. Anything for ratings I guess. Gotta love the media…

    44. Patti on October 25th, 2007 11:03 pm

      Yo Yo:

      You look a little desperate asking someone why they would call Natalee a child. I call her a child all the time… just as many of us do. To us an eighteen year old girl is a child. She, certainly, wasn’t a woman.

      And the Duke rape has nothing in common with the case against Joran and Company. Absolutely nothing. Besides, if Joran is so innocent, why doesn’t he come forward and tell the truth? Every single statement that he’s made has been lies. Not only that, but his “own father” lied in his statements, as well. The innocent don’t lie.

      The only question that is pertinent at this point is not whether Natalee was a child, or whether she was kidnapped. The pertinent question is what is the Netherlands going to do about it?

      They, essentially, are the father of Aruba. Is Aruba going to go unpunished, as well? What a travisty of justice that would be. The whole world would, surely, recall the old saying – like father, like son – and view the Netherlands in the same light as the Arawaks… Nations that live off the flesh of our children.

      .

      What about it Queen Bea? Do you have the blood of Natalee on your napkin, as well? We don’t need to remind you of the number of victims of trafficking that cross your borders on a daily basis, and, while we can see by reading the State Department reports, you have made some progress, allowing an ancient “good ol’ boys” system to obstruct justice in Aruba would surely mean the fall of The Netherlands, as well.

      We act in good faith, when it comes to the safety of your citizens and expect the same in return. You have agreed to look into this case and to become responsible enough to uncover the corruption, rightfully so. So, where are you? Surely, you’re not afraid of the Dragon, are you? Are the excuses of a boy that writes of himself as a habitual liar enough justice for you, something to laugh about? Surely, it wasn’t THAT funny.

      Slay the Dragon and be done with it and if the Arawak Nation is a problem for which you have fear, destroy it… after all, you were the ones that bred these Cannibals in the first place. Surely, if you have the power to fight in the Gulf War, how much greatness can one little Dragon, on one little island have in comparison to you?

      .

      Boycott Aruba!

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